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Vee-Rex
04-12-2018, 12:35 PM
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All games in EST


Game 1 in Boston: Celtics 113, Bucks 107

Game 2 in Boston: Tuesday, April 17, 7 p.m. ET, TNT

Game 3 in Milwaukee: Friday, April 20, 9:30 p.m. ET, ESPN

Game 4 in Milwaukee: Sunday, April 22, 1 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 5 in Boston: TBA (if necessary)

Game 6 in Milwaukee: TBA (if necessary)

Game 7 in Boston: TBA (if necessary)



* If Necessary



Projected Starting Lineups:

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C: John Henson
PF: Giannis Antetokounmpo
SF: Khris Middleton
SG: Tony Snell
PG: Eric Bledsoe





Projected Starting Lineups:

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C: Aron Baynes
PF: Al Horford
SF: Jayson Tatum
SG: Jaylen Brown
PG: Terry Rozier





BMO Harris Bradley Center, Milwaukee

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TD Garden, Boston

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Heediot
04-12-2018, 01:40 PM
Milwaukee over the under-manned team.

HandsOnTheWheel
04-12-2018, 02:05 PM
Celtics in 7

LeonFSU
04-12-2018, 02:13 PM
I think the Celtics win this one without too much trouble. I'd say in 5 or 6 games.

WaDe03
04-12-2018, 02:55 PM
MKE tanked for the Celtics last night, would be funny if it back fired.

Celticsfan2007
04-12-2018, 03:08 PM
Milwaukee SHOULD win this series.

However, don't be surprised if it goes 7. I just don't see these young guys (Tatum, Brown and Rozier) laying down.

Horford and J. Parker are the X factors for their teams success.

Vee-Rex
04-12-2018, 03:31 PM
I'm picking Bucks in 6. I think they win the talent battle and are lengthy enough to bother the Celtics. Celtics are too hurt.

I'm expecting some sluggish, low-scoring games.

FlashBolt
04-12-2018, 03:34 PM
Celtics will win. Bucks just suck. Stevens will outcoach the Bucks and win it.

LeonFSU
04-12-2018, 04:51 PM
Celtics will win. Bucks just suck. Stevens will outcoach the Bucks and win it.

I agree. I think they're the worst team in the playoffs.

ewing
04-12-2018, 04:58 PM
BUcks in 6

GREATNESS ONE
04-12-2018, 06:08 PM
Huge advantage in experience and coaching, for Boston. I just hope to see Giannis take over the series. Be the Super Star player

Jeffy25
04-12-2018, 06:39 PM
I'm saying Bucks in 7 because of the Greek Freek.

But Stevens is the best coach in basketball, and very well could out maneuver the Bucks. But I'll give the Bucks the advantage because of their massive talent disparity. I think Middleton is a huge surprise in this series.

TylerSL
04-13-2018, 04:05 AM
I got Celtics in seven and I could honestly see them winning in less. To me, the Bucks don't play to their full capabilities. I'm not sure if that's whether their young players haven't developed enough, or because Bledsoe hasn't played as well this year, or because their defense isn't there (they are the only playoff team to actually be outscored on a per game basis). I feel like the Bucks are a pretty weak team actually.

That said, the loss of Kyrie will hurt Boston in the playoffs. I still have them winning, but it's not the certainty it would be if they had him. I believe that Tatum, Horford, Rozier, ect will step up, but I don't know that they will. It would shock me if the Celtics don't win, but crazier things have happened.

Jamiecballer
04-13-2018, 12:09 PM
Bucks in 6. Perhaps even 5, based on inexperience and lack of ready for prime time talent on the Celtics.

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SfgiantsJD3
04-13-2018, 01:00 PM
(2) Boston Celtics vs. (7) Milwaukee Bucks 



Game 1: Sun. April 15 Milwaukee at Boston, 1 p.m. TNT

Game 2: Tue, April 17 Milwaukee at Boston, 8 p.m., TNT


Game 3: Fri. April 20 Boston at Milwaukee, 9:30 p.m., ESPN


Game 4: Sun. April 22 Boston at Milwaukee, 1 p.m., ABC-R


Game 5: Tue. April 24 Milwaukee at Boston, TBD
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Game 6: Thu. April 26 Boston at Milwaukee, TBD
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Game 7: Sat/ April 28 Milwaukee at Boston, TNT
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LeonFSU
04-13-2018, 04:05 PM
Greg Monroe is going to go to town on this miserable Bucks front line.

More-Than-Most
04-14-2018, 01:41 AM
celtics in 4 or 5.

Bostonjorge
04-14-2018, 02:03 PM
I think Boston is the underdog with all the injuries are a sophomore and a rookie leading the way. Horford has to lock up the inside with the Bucks haveing no real shooting from the outside. Bucks have more then enough fire power to take the series early to.

Boston win

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 11:44 AM
Not sure what to expect. I think they go with a different starting lineup today that uses Parker. If the Celtics pull this out it is because they clog the lane defensively and force the Bucks to shoot from 20+ft. Bucks need to hit shots if thats the case which hasnt been easy for them all season. They have been best taking the ball to the hoop.

Lil Rhody
04-15-2018, 12:52 PM
Brad Stevens need to be above his own coaching abilities in these playoffs for the Celtics to make any noise. Seems like the bucks are a dumb team so I have hope

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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 01:00 PM
Huh i guess no different lineup.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 01:21 PM
Lot of poor shot selection from both teams so far. Celtics definitely collapsing the lane and have forced Giannis and Bledsoe into multiple turnovers already doing so. Bucks need to start making better decisions and making the extra pass.

Cal827
04-15-2018, 01:35 PM
Giannis is lucky he's not in foul trouble. He fouled Brown going to a basket too, lucky to be called only for that Morris 3..

Also, damn Morris playing in Toronto one night, Boston the next :laugh2:

Bostonjorge
04-15-2018, 01:35 PM
8 turnovers for the Bucks in 1st quarter.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 01:39 PM
Turnovers and poor shot selections the entire quarter for the most part. Awful basketball. Celtics have been getting easy buckets in transition and Bucks havent guarded the rim well at all. This could get ugly quick if they dont take Brogdon out and bring back in Bledsoe. Offense has been terrible without him on the court all season and Brogdon is not right yet to run this offense.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 01:40 PM
Brogdon, Snell, and Terry all on the court. Puke.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 01:44 PM
Wow nice time for Celtics to get sloppy with passes.

ewing
04-15-2018, 02:01 PM
Brad Stevens has to start hitting more shots


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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 02:12 PM
Pretty much expected so far. Both teams are roller coasters. Middleton has been a surprise in the first half with his ability to take it to the hoop. Hasnt settled for a lot of deep jumpers.

tredigs
04-15-2018, 02:24 PM
Celtics will take it in the 2nd half.

AllBall
04-15-2018, 02:50 PM
Wow, who is announcing this game? They're terrible. One guy sounds like he has clogged nostrils.

PAOboston
04-15-2018, 03:15 PM
Good to see the refs put the C's in the penalty with 7 mins left on probably 4 soft calls. SMH

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PAOboston
04-15-2018, 03:24 PM
Giannis just took 12 steps and they called a blocking foul on Brown. Yikes. NBA doesn't want Giannis bounced in 4 games.

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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:24 PM
Giannis just took 12 steps and they called a blocking foul on Brown. Yikes. NBA doesn't want Giannis bounced in 4 games.

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Lets be realistic. The Celtics had zero chance of taking this in 4.

PAOboston
04-15-2018, 03:28 PM
Lets be realistic. The Celtics had zero chance of taking this in 4.The way the Bucks are playing I'm not so sure.

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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:33 PM
The way the Bucks are playing I'm not so sure.

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On the road in game 1 down to the wire? Ya this aint going 4.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2018, 03:35 PM
I know Milwaukee isn't a powerful team but you gotta admire what Boston is able to do missing their 2 best players and 3 of their top 4 players.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:36 PM
after watching this game id honestly question if the celtics could win this series if they dont take this game.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2018, 03:36 PM
And as I say that, Brogdon nails the 3.

This is gonna be an entertaining series.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:36 PM
sick move by rozier

hugepatsfan
04-15-2018, 03:37 PM
Rozier!!!!!!!!

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:37 PM
What a shot... but what the F by Bledsoe there? I know he was able to deke bledsoe off, but he just flat gave up on the play.... He should have dove back to try to at least defend the shot.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2018, 03:38 PM
Lol Rozier KILLED Bledsoe on that.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:38 PM
holy ****

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:38 PM
What?! Will that count?

hugepatsfan
04-15-2018, 03:38 PM
Why do I feel like MIL gonna tie it tho smh

Bostonjorge
04-15-2018, 03:39 PM
WOW we have a series

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:39 PM
Jesus Middleton

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:39 PM
Why do I feel like MIL gonna tie it tho smh

You called it :laugh2:

Vee-Rex
04-15-2018, 03:40 PM
Omg Middleton!

KobeOwnSU
04-15-2018, 03:40 PM
Finally an entertaining game!

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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:40 PM
What a shot... but what the F by Bledsoe there? I know he was able to deke bledsoe off, but he just flat gave up on the play.... He should have dove back to try to at least defend the shot.

naw cant risk fouling after the shot there. once hes off like that its all just hoping rozier misses.

LionsFan..LOL
04-15-2018, 03:41 PM
What started so putrid to watch has become a ton of fun. Hell of a shot by Middleton. Man it would be nice to have a SF like him on the Pistons..oh wait.

NYKalltheway
04-15-2018, 03:41 PM
what a clutch three.. I was actually here to moan about Bledsoe's terrible defence on the final attempt of the Celtics :D

PAOboston
04-15-2018, 03:43 PM
Brutal defense by Cs on last 2 Bucks possessions. Just brutal. Giving this game to the Bucks.

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PAOboston
04-15-2018, 03:47 PM
Only Rozier can hit a massive 3 then follow it up by missing a point blank layup

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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:49 PM
Bucks back to settling for long range jumpers again...

Bostonjorge
04-15-2018, 03:54 PM
Tatum wants to take this series over

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:54 PM
Jesus, the Refs gave the Celtics a million fouls and quite possibly ignored a Buck stepping out of bounds and the Bucks still couldn't get anything.

corky831
04-15-2018, 03:57 PM
About damn time, bye bye Giannis

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 03:58 PM
terrible call

corky831
04-15-2018, 03:58 PM
Giannis been fouling and traveling, getting away with a ton per usual

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:59 PM
:laugh: Giannis should've fouled out on the other jump ball, and now on this play (which should have been a jump ball), Giannis ends out fouling out... Law of averages I guess :D


Giannis benefits way too much from foul calls.

PAOboston
04-15-2018, 03:59 PM
Finally! An over the back foul on Giannis. Should have fouled out 5 mins ago

I love Giannis but he now gets away with more stuff than LeBron.

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corky831
04-15-2018, 03:59 PM
Great win by the Celtics! Young guns showing up

Cal827
04-15-2018, 03:59 PM
Celtics win this one tonight

PAOboston
04-15-2018, 04:01 PM
[emoji23] Giannis should've fouled out on the other jump ball, and now on this play (which should have been a jump ball), Giannis ends out fouling out... Law of averages I guess :DTook like 12 steps before they gave him FTs the prior possession too

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hallzi43
04-15-2018, 04:03 PM
Took like 12 steps before they gave him FTs the prior possession too

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Or 2. He just has long strides.

AllBall
04-15-2018, 04:08 PM
Brad Stevens, Tatum, Brown, Horford is enough to get it done. Loving this series.

zn23
04-15-2018, 04:55 PM
After Middleton's clutch shot to send it to OT, Bucs missed all their clutch 3s in OT. In fact they missed 3 straight wide open 3s.

Bledsoe was a disaster and got completely outplayed by Rozier. He needs a much better performance.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 05:53 PM
After Middleton's clutch shot to send it to OT, Bucs missed all their clutch 3s in OT. In fact they missed 3 straight wide open 3s.

Bledsoe was a disaster and got completely outplayed by Rozier. He needs a much better performance.

He will play better. But the question is will it be before they make the trip home?

More-Than-Most
04-15-2018, 07:08 PM
Finally! An over the back foul on Giannis. Should have fouled out 5 mins ago

I love Giannis but he now gets away with more stuff than LeBron.

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i think he gets away with the most i have seen in a long long long time... it really benefits him because he has no shot... I pray the league loves Ben like this next year lol.

hallzi43
04-15-2018, 07:17 PM
i think he gets away with the most i have seen in a long long long time... it really benefits him because he has no shot... I pray the league loves Ben like this next year lol.

Meh, everyone in the NBA gets away with it. Most times that is a non call at that stage of the game.

ewing
04-15-2018, 07:37 PM
How bout “playoff” Al Hartford? 24 on 8 shots.


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Lil Rhody
04-15-2018, 07:53 PM
Bro " historical".




I only bring it back because of not the Celtics fan claiming it but the people cumming on themselves making fun of what was said




Stilllll gets me every time

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Celticsfan2007
04-15-2018, 08:36 PM
Al just had a historical game!

goingfor28
04-16-2018, 02:37 AM
How bout “playoff” Al Hartford? 24 on 8 shots.


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Lil Rhody
04-16-2018, 05:18 AM
Sad part is the bucks are wayyy more talented than the Celtics right now

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WaDe03
04-16-2018, 10:06 AM
Prutiny for COY!!!

kdspurman
04-16-2018, 11:33 AM
Op updated with schedule/proj lineups

kyubi256
04-16-2018, 01:29 PM
If you think Lebron is upset with his lack of support from CLE, wonder how Giannis feels.....

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 08:30 PM
Cs just taking advantage of the Bucks inside. Going at Giannis/Parker with Horford.

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PAOboston
04-17-2018, 08:42 PM
JB with another monster 1st quarter

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Cal827
04-17-2018, 08:53 PM
If you think Lebron is upset with his lack of support from CLE, wonder how Giannis feels.....

Giannis has Bledsoe, Middleton, Parker (albeit back from recent injury) and a decent bench. I'm sorry, but I don't feel there's many other excuses for him.

If the Bucks can't get it done and eliminate this Celtics team who are missing their two best players, and are relying on mainly 1st and 2nd year guys... then I don't know what to say. He's supposed to be a "superstar" right?

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 08:54 PM
Another abysmal coaching display by Stevens in the 2nd quarter. Played the exact same lineup that blew a double digit lead in game 1 again in game 2. Same result.

It's the playoffs. Shorten your rotations. It's not that hard.

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NYKnickFanatic
04-17-2018, 08:54 PM
I thought Brandon Jennings was on the Bucks. What happened?

Cal827
04-17-2018, 09:32 PM
Guess the refs are just not gonna call any fouls on Giannis tonight.

At least the C's fans counting down when he's taking FTs has messed with his concentration at the FT line

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Wait until he complains about foul calls again :facepalm:

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 09:32 PM
Guess the refs are just not gonna call any fouls on Giannis tonight.

At least the C's fans counting down when he's taking FTs has messed with his concentration at the FT line

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zn23
04-17-2018, 09:37 PM
Eric Bledsoe has been thoroughly outplayed by Terry Rozier in both games...

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 09:40 PM
Jaylen Brown is gonna be an absolute stud

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goingfor28
04-17-2018, 09:42 PM
Giannis has Bledsoe, Middleton, Parker (albeit back from recent injury) and a decent bench. I'm sorry, but I don't feel there's many other excuses for him.

If the Bucks can't get it done and eliminate this Celtics team who are missing their two best players, and are relying on mainly 1st and 2nd year guys... then I don't know what to say. He's supposed to be a "superstar" right?Those 3 are pretty piss poor other best options

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zn23
04-17-2018, 09:44 PM
If I'm the Spurs. I would demand both Rozier and Brown for Kawhi Leonard.

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 09:46 PM
If I'm the Spurs. I would demand both Rozier and Brown for Kawhi Leonard.

Cs might just keep them both at this point

zn23
04-17-2018, 09:51 PM
Giannis has Bledsoe, Middleton, Parker (albeit back from recent injury) and a decent bench. I'm sorry, but I don't feel there's many other excuses for him.

If the Bucks can't get it done and eliminate this Celtics team who are missing their two best players, and are relying on mainly 1st and 2nd year guys... then I don't know what to say. He's supposed to be a "superstar" right?

I'll give him a break because Bledsoe is coming really up small and Parker is coming off knee surgery and hasn't look like the same guy and is probably disengaged and looking for a way out of Milwaukee. Middleton is his 2nd best option but he's not exactly an all-star.

On paper, they look good. But when you see them play it's a different story.

NYKnickFanatic
04-17-2018, 09:51 PM
Where's Jennings? Could use his play making.

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 10:02 PM
This has turned into a laugher now.

Don't see this series going more than 5 games max

zn23
04-17-2018, 10:07 PM
Giannis will get unfairly blamed if they lose the series. But the Celtics are scheming against him well defensively, and his teammates just aren't stepping up. You can't judge this team by how it looks on paper.

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 10:28 PM
Great win by Cs. Made a statement. Brown coming out big time in these playoffs on primetime.

tredigs
04-17-2018, 11:12 PM
C's would've walked to the Finals if their best players weren't injured.

PAOboston
04-17-2018, 11:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/986440927882465280?s=19

Yikes

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tredigs
04-17-2018, 11:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/986440927882465280?s=19

Yikes

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He's the guy who has been torching you, Bledsoe.

goingfor28
04-17-2018, 11:49 PM
Al Horford with a historic 16/5/4 game.

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Toxeryll
04-18-2018, 12:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/986440927882465280?s=19

Yikes

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bLOLedsoe

AllBall
04-18-2018, 12:51 AM
Another abysmal coaching display by Stevens in the 2nd quarter. Played the exact same lineup that blew a double digit lead in game 1 again in game 2. Same result.

It's the playoffs. Shorten your rotations. It's not that hard.

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You ungrateful bastard. So far Stevens gets my nomination for best coaching in playoffs so far. Some fanbases just don't understand what they have. :rolleyes:

NYKnickFanatic
04-18-2018, 01:51 AM
Where is Jennings?!

COOLbeans
04-18-2018, 02:12 AM
Seriously what happened to Brandon’s jennings?

Lil Rhody
04-18-2018, 04:52 AM
Who was the poster that said Brown or Tatum arnt studs because they don't drop 25+ with Irving out?.............. Ya about that

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Lil Rhody
04-18-2018, 05:09 AM
Also the Celtics bench next year with Tatum and Rozier. Watch out NBA the Celtics are coming

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PAOboston
04-18-2018, 06:52 AM
You ungrateful bastard. So far Stevens gets my nomination for best coaching in playoffs so far. Some fanbases just don't understand what they have. :rolleyes:I love Stevens but he does do things that drive you crazy sometimes. Like endless rotations in the playoffs.

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homie564
04-18-2018, 07:51 AM
If Rozier does nothing but build his value in this playoffs to be used as a significant piece to acquire Kawhi, I’d be happy.


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WaDe03
04-18-2018, 09:22 AM
Wish giannis94 wasn't banned because BAE is getting exposed in these playoffs. His lack of shooting kills his team.

AntiG
04-18-2018, 09:50 AM
Lets be realistic. The Celtics had zero chance of taking this in 4.

not saying they would have swept, but the C's are the #2 seed despite Kyrie missing a quarter of the season, Hayward the whole season, and Smart the last chunk of the season. They are a heckuva team that while they won't likely win the title this year, will probably make a strong run in the playoffs, especially since the Raptors and Cavs (if they win their series) go at it next round. I conservatively picked the C's in 6 but sweeping the Bucks was never out of the question, and they could probably beat the 76ers without Kyrie because Rozier is a stud.

NYKnickFanatic
04-18-2018, 10:06 AM
Seriously what happened to Brandon’s jennings?

Seriously, man. I thought they signed him to a multi year deal. I can't find any information to why he is not there. He is posting pictures on his Instagram of him in Boston and what not. I'm so confused.

Can ANY Bucks fans shed some light on this?!

EDIT: Never mind, I found out where Jennings is. He is on the inactive list for some reason.

ewing
04-18-2018, 10:35 AM
Wish giannis94 wasn't banned because BAE is getting exposed in these playoffs. His lack of shooting kills his team.

how the hell did that guy get banned? Mods should account for the fact that his team is in the playoffs right now. That's BS

WaDe03
04-18-2018, 10:57 AM
how the hell did that guy get banned? Mods should account for the fact that his team is in the playoffs right now. That's BS

Not sure what she did (it's a woman) but we could definitely use her activity and entertainment right now!

Vee-Rex
04-18-2018, 10:58 AM
Wish giannis94 wasn't banned because BAE is getting exposed in these playoffs. His lack of shooting kills his team.

His ban is over... unless the ban is only for the NBA forum.

WaDe03
04-18-2018, 11:30 AM
His ban is over... unless the ban is only for the NBA forum.

Where you at Giannis94! We miss you girl!

AIMelo=KillaDUO
04-18-2018, 11:31 AM
Don't see Milwaukee bouncing back. I've expected them to be more competitive in the series. Picked them to win the series, Giannis will problly get alot of flack for not being able to advance against what I thought was an inferior team. The show Jaylen Brown and Rozier put on last night was a thing of beauty.

FlashBolt
04-18-2018, 06:02 PM
Wow. No lie, if Boston had a healthy Kyrie+Hayward, there is a legitimate argument they would be a top three NBA team. Brad Stevems is just a stud. Don't bet against that guy.

hallzi43
04-18-2018, 09:38 PM
not saying they would have swept, but the C's are the #2 seed despite Kyrie missing a quarter of the season, Hayward the whole season, and Smart the last chunk of the season. They are a heckuva team that while they won't likely win the title this year, will probably make a strong run in the playoffs, especially since the Raptors and Cavs (if they win their series) go at it next round. I conservatively picked the C's in 6 but sweeping the Bucks was never out of the question, and they could probably beat the 76ers without Kyrie because Rozier is a stud.

Bucks will play with emotion at home. This will go at least 5 if not 6.

Oakmont_4
04-19-2018, 07:14 AM
If I'm the Spurs. I would demand both Rozier and Brown for Kawhi Leonard.

It's a fair demand. And would be a fairly solid trade on both ends.

Morris, Yabusele and Nader would need to be added to make the money work.

Celtics in: Kawhi Leonard
Celtics out: Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabusele, Nader

Obviously the Celtics would need to investigate Leonards situation before hand. Is he healthy? Not healthy? Beef with Pop/SAS? What's the deal over there? If that checks out and Leonard can be a top 5 NBA player again. Homerun for both teams.

SAS gets to rebuild around a Brown/Rozier back court

Boston's 2018 rotation

PG Kyrie
SG Hayward
SF Leonard
PF Tatum
C Horford

G Smart (re-sign)
C Monroe (re-sign)
PF Thies
SG Vet Free Agent
SF Vet Free Agent
2018 First rounder
PG Larkin (Re-sign)
SF Ojeleye

The bench isn't as deep as it is now...But the starters (if healthy) would rival any in the league.

AntiG
04-19-2018, 11:39 AM
Bucks will play with emotion at home. This will go at least 5 if not 6.

sure, but they could also go home down 0-2 and just fold, especially the way the C's play defense.

hallzi43
04-19-2018, 12:11 PM
sure, but they could also go home down 0-2 and just fold, especially the way the C's play defense.

I don't see that being the case. Celtics fed a lot off the home town crowd. That will be the Bucks heading into Milwaukee. I think they definitely come out with a win tomorrow night. Whether they can take 2 at home will be questionable, but I feel pretty good about tomorrows game.

Vee-Rex
04-19-2018, 12:32 PM
It's a fair demand. And would be a fairly solid trade on both ends.

Morris, Yabusele and Nader would need to be added to make the money work.

Celtics in: Kawhi Leonard
Celtics out: Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabusele, Nader

Obviously the Celtics would need to investigate Leonards situation before hand. Is he healthy? Not healthy? Beef with Pop/SAS? What's the deal over there? If that checks out and Leonard can be a top 5 NBA player again. Homerun for both teams.

SAS gets to rebuild around a Brown/Rozier back court

Boston's 2018 rotation

PG Kyrie
SG Hayward
SF Leonard
PF Tatum
C Horford

G Smart (re-sign)
C Monroe (re-sign)
PF Thies
SG Vet Free Agent
SF Vet Free Agent
2018 First rounder
PG Larkin (Re-sign)
SF Ojeleye

The bench isn't as deep as it is now...But the starters (if healthy) would rival any in the league.

If the Celtics pulled off that trade, they win the East for the next 5 years.

From that point on, you'd just look to beef up the bench/roleplayers with shooters and guys who can bang/rebound/defend in the paint.

Scoots
04-19-2018, 01:25 PM
I had hoped Rozier would slip in the draft down far enough for the Warriors to go get him. I didn't expect him to take 3 years to show up, but I didn't expect Kevon Looney who they drafted the same year Rozier was drafted to take this long to show up either. It's a good demonstration of how teams need to have more patience with their young players.

TheDish87
04-19-2018, 01:40 PM
It's a fair demand. And would be a fairly solid trade on both ends.

Morris, Yabusele and Nader would need to be added to make the money work.

Celtics in: Kawhi Leonard
Celtics out: Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabusele, Nader

Obviously the Celtics would need to investigate Leonards situation before hand. Is he healthy? Not healthy? Beef with Pop/SAS? What's the deal over there? If that checks out and Leonard can be a top 5 NBA player again. Homerun for both teams.

SAS gets to rebuild around a Brown/Rozier back court

Boston's 2018 rotation

PG Kyrie
SG Hayward
SF Leonard
PF Tatum
C Horford

G Smart (re-sign)
C Monroe (re-sign)
PF Thies
SG Vet Free Agent
SF Vet Free Agent
2018 First rounder
PG Larkin (Re-sign)
SF Ojeleye

The bench isn't as deep as it is now...But the starters (if healthy) would rival any in the league.

so 2 role players, a potential all star talent, and 2 jobbers along with no picks for KL? no shot.

AllBall
04-19-2018, 01:43 PM
I had hoped Rozier would slip in the draft down far enough for the Warriors to go get him. I didn't expect him to take 3 years to show up, but I didn't expect Kevon Looney who they drafted the same year Rozier was drafted to take this long to show up either. It's a good demonstration of how teams need to have more patience with their young players.

That's because the 1-and-done delivers raw products more often than not.

Ishkabibble
04-19-2018, 01:51 PM
I had hoped Rozier would slip in the draft down far enough for the Warriors to go get him. I didn't expect him to take 3 years to show up, but I didn't expect Kevon Looney who they drafted the same year Rozier was drafted to take this long to show up either. It's a good demonstration of how teams need to have more patience with their young players.

IMO, as a Celtics fan, much of Rozier's playing time issues stemmed from having quality 1 and 2 guards in front of him. Isaiah, Avery Bradley and then Irving and Brown. And throughout Marcus Smart, who Stevens clearly loves and will play 30 minutes a night no matter how poorly he's shooting. I always liked Rozier's game and I think Brad did too. He never managed regular minutes until this season...and then both Irving and Smart went down...so he's flourishing now. That guy could start for a number of teams.

Oakmont_4
04-19-2018, 02:05 PM
so 2 role players, a potential all star talent, and 2 jobbers along with no picks for KL? no shot.

2 potential All Star talents. Rozier since becoming the starter/when starting is averaging 20ppg. A role player on a low money 1 year deal. Nader is a jobber. Yabusele has potential to be a nice role player. It's a fair offer.

Ishkabibble
04-19-2018, 02:37 PM
2 potential All Star talents. Rozier since becoming the starter/when starting is averaging 20ppg. A role player on a low money 1 year deal. Nader is a jobber. Yabusele has potential to be a nice role player. It's a fair offer.

If I'm Boston, much as I love him as a player, I'm not knocking myself out to get Leonard. Principally because 1) the wing position in Boston next year w/ Hayward, Tatum, Brown & Morris most assuredly is not broken and 2) the value of the 3 and 4 inexpensive years that Brown and Tatum have left on their existing contracts. Leonard is signed for next season at $20M then a player option for 2020, which he'll definitely opt out of. In a capped league don't downplay the significance of this element in the least.
If I'm gonna trade Brown or Tatum it's gonna be for a position of need or at a position that needs a real, genuine upgrade. I suspect the Celtics may be able to "get by" with what they already have at the wing position.

Oakmont_4
04-19-2018, 05:04 PM
If I'm Boston, much as I love him as a player, I'm not knocking myself out to get Leonard. Principally because 1) the wing position in Boston next year w/ Hayward, Tatum, Brown & Morris most assuredly is not broken and 2) the value of the 3 and 4 inexpensive years that Brown and Tatum have left on their existing contracts. Leonard is signed for next season at $20M then a player option for 2020, which he'll definitely opt out of. In a capped league don't downplay the significance of this element in the least.
If I'm gonna trade Brown or Tatum it's gonna be for a position of need or at a position that needs a real, genuine upgrade. I suspect the Celtics may be able to "get by" with what they already have at the wing position.

Brad Stevens values wings more than any other position. He doesn't need an elite PG or C, just a specific type. He needs elite wings that are versatile for his system to operate how he wants it to.

Stevens has no need for a PF. His offense is purely PG, 3 wings that are interchangeable and a C who can handle the ball and pass.

Having 3 elite wings along with Kyrie and Horford would make Stevens offense hum. These guys would all be playing 30+ minutes a night.

The best part is you can rotate in and out and hide your rotational players in and always have 2 of Kyrie, Hayward, Tatum and Leonard on the court at all times. That's plenty of scoring to not need major contributors off the bench. You can legit surround these guys with defense and sharp shooters. You wouldn't need a Morris type to come in off the bench and provide 12-18ppg on a nightly basis.

Ideally you want to keep everyone but we can't. Rozier and Morris will both be Free Agents after next season, if they're not moved this offseason, they're likely lost for nothing. Having to pay Brown and Tatum will likely cost us both Rozier and Morris - they'll walk for nothing in return. I'd much rather use their value which is very high right now, to get something moving forward. KL is a guy worth paying a MAX. So you'll take the luxury tax his to pay that guy. Are you going to take a luxury tax hit to pay Rozier and Morris? No.

TheDish87
04-20-2018, 09:07 AM
2 potential All Star talents. Rozier since becoming the starter/when starting is averaging 20ppg. A role player on a low money 1 year deal. Nader is a jobber. Yabusele has potential to be a nice role player. It's a fair offer.

lol no its not, not even a little and like 10 teams cant top that offer. Rozier is best suited off the bench dont let the small sample size fool you. Im a fan of the dude but hes not future all star.

zn23
04-22-2018, 03:04 AM
lol no its not, not even a little and like 10 teams cant top that offer. Rozier is best suited off the bench dont let the small sample size fool you. Im a fan of the dude but hes not future all star.

Rozier and Brown are both young, play defense and can hit 3s, perfect for the Spurs system. Plus, Brown has potential to be a Kawhi type player. The Spurs are an aging team that doesn't have a lot of young talent and they'll likely lose Kawhi anyway and The Cs have more young talent to offer than any other team.

They're not going to get a king's ransom for him when he's got 1 year left on his contract.

Cal827
04-22-2018, 03:02 PM
Jesus, Boston has stormed all the way back. Their coach is unbelievable.

Cal827
04-22-2018, 03:06 PM
:laugh2: Remember when we said Giannis was at Lebron's level? Man, he needs to focus on jump shooting this off-season. That was embarassing

goingfor28
04-22-2018, 03:09 PM
Bucks need to get their **** together. This series is absolutely winnable for them.

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Cal827
04-22-2018, 03:18 PM
Middleton is bailing them out right now

Cal827
04-22-2018, 03:19 PM
I think I might've upset Giannis with my earlier comment :laugh2: Dirty dunk

Cal827
04-22-2018, 03:27 PM
This is also Brown's awakening... Jesus, Brooklyn must look at the Celtics guys and cry.

Cal827
04-22-2018, 03:29 PM
Celts made a mistake after gaining possession there, should've let some time run off and got a set play ready.

Also where's everybody :laugh2: You're missing a good game

zn23
04-22-2018, 03:31 PM
Bledsoe has to be better...

Bostonjorge
04-22-2018, 03:35 PM
What a series

goingfor28
04-22-2018, 03:36 PM
That was the best play Boston could come up with? There were 5 seconds on the clock. Please of time to do something better than that.

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BoSox47
04-22-2018, 03:50 PM
Terrible blown missed call on middleton hacking jaylen browns arm with the celtics up by 1 with 35 seconds left is absolutely killer. Complete game changer.

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/988140852835966983

Vinylman
04-22-2018, 04:05 PM
Terrible blown missed call on middleton hacking jaylen browns arm with the celtics up by 1 with 35 seconds left is absolutely killer. Complete game changer.

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/988140852835966983

lmfao...

the officiating was horrible throughout and in my view severely favored Boston

goingfor28
04-22-2018, 04:43 PM
Terrible blown missed call on middleton hacking jaylen browns arm with the celtics up by 1 with 35 seconds left is absolutely killer. Complete game changer.

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/988140852835966983I bet that is the only missed call all game for either team.

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BoSox47
04-22-2018, 04:59 PM
I bet that is the only missed call all game for either team.

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its a major missed called to happen with 35 seconds left. If it was called a foul, celtics had opportunity to go up by 3, switch out to defensive players, then call a timeout to get offensive players back on the court if last possession was needed.

goingfor28
04-22-2018, 05:36 PM
its a major missed called to happen with 35 seconds left. If it was called a foul, celtics had opportunity to go up by 3, switch out to defensive players, then call a timeout to get offensive players back on the court if last possession was needed.It's not any more "major" than any other call that may have been missed throughout the game.
Maybe Boston shouldn't have fallen behind by 20 and they wouldn't have been in that position.

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hallzi43
04-22-2018, 05:39 PM
Officiating was all over the place. A couple non calls allowed Celtics to continue their run as well.

Great series. Bucks have shown they have the better talent but Celtics have some really nice young players to surround Horford.

hallzi43
04-22-2018, 05:44 PM
Jabari had a great first half but man that second half highlighted his first 2 games. Poor shot selection and decision making passes while giving up on defense.

Delly had a tough second half on defense too after bringing the intensity in the first half.

Maker had another quality game on both sides. Brogdon is showing form again.

Its nice when we dont have to rely on Terry and Snell so much.

Also i have liked us without Henson. Zeller and Thon play better on defense and i dont have to watch him whiff hook shots regularly.

AntiG
04-22-2018, 05:47 PM
:laugh2: Remember when we said Giannis was at Lebron's level? Man, he needs to focus on jump shooting this off-season. That was embarassing

I've said this for awhile now, Giannis is a ridiculous athlete with a bevy of great skills but he's still so rough around the edges on a lot of them. Development-wise he's probably at the level Lebron was in high school, which is a credit to how incredible a player Lebron is and has always been.

hugepatsfan
04-22-2018, 06:05 PM
It's not any more "major" than any other call that may have been missed throughout the game.
Maybe Boston shouldn't have fallen behind by 20 and they wouldn't have been in that position.

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I hate this argument. Missed calls with less time left are absolutely, 100% more impactful than various missed calls over the course of the game. They drastically change the progression of the game. Yes, 2 points in the 1st is worth the same as 2 points in the last minute but the fate of the game isn't directly attributable to the swing of one missed play or call like it is with the clock winding down.

Now, you're second statement is also 100% correct and it's silly to point to one call why a game is won or lost. No argument from me there. But I 100% disagree with you that a missed play or call late isn't more meaningful than others throughout the game.

numba1CHANGsta
04-22-2018, 06:08 PM
Boston sucks

goingfor28
04-22-2018, 07:31 PM
I hate this argument. Missed calls with less time left are absolutely, 100% more impactful than various missed calls over the course of the game. They drastically change the progression of the game. Yes, 2 points in the 1st is worth the same as 2 points in the last minute but the fate of the game isn't directly attributable to the swing of one missed play or call like it is with the clock winding down.

Now, you're second statement is also 100% correct and it's silly to point to one call why a game is won or lost. No argument from me there. But I 100% disagree with you that a missed play or call late isn't more meaningful than others throughout the game.It definitely seems more meaningful, but in the grand scheme it really doesn't mean any more or less than a missed call in the 1st Q. It's just more magnified. Just my opinion

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BoSox47
04-22-2018, 07:49 PM
It's not any more "major" than any other call that may have been missed throughout the game.
Maybe Boston shouldn't have fallen behind by 20 and they wouldn't have been in that position.

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The impact of this call likely determined the winner of the game. If it goes in the celtics favor, they are at the line, up by 1 and have 2 free throws. During the free throws they could have subbed in defensive minded players and if the bucks scored, celtics had a time out to switch back out defensive players for offensive players for the last possession.

That call with 35 seconds left was way infinitely more impactful than any call in the first quarter could be.

hallzi43
04-22-2018, 07:50 PM
I've said this for awhile now, Giannis is a ridiculous athlete with a bevy of great skills but he's still so rough around the edges on a lot of them. Development-wise he's probably at the level Lebron was in high school, which is a credit to how incredible a player Lebron is and has always been.

Hes certainly more developed skill wise than Lebron in high school. But he hasnt taken that next step as a shooter or passer yet.

BoSox47
04-22-2018, 07:53 PM
It definitely seems more meaningful, but in the grand scheme it really doesn't mean any more or less than a missed call in the 1st Q. It's just more magnified. Just my opinion

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If the celtics are up by 1 in the first quarter and that play happens it is far less meaningful than if it happens with 35 seconds left and they are up by 1 in the 4th quarter with a chance to extend the lead to 3 points and still have a possession after. Considering theres about 100 more possessions after the first quarter and only 1 more possession each side after the play in the 4th. The call in the 4th with 35 seconds left is much more meaningful.

hallzi43
04-22-2018, 07:53 PM
The impact of this call likely determined the winner of the game. If it goes in the celtics favor, they are at the line, up by 1 and have 2 free throws. During the free throws they could have subbed in defensive minded players and if the bucks scored, celtics had a time out to switch back out defensive players for offensive players for the last possession.

That call with 35 seconds left was way infinitely more impactful than any call in the first quarter could be.

Bottom line is the Celtics played poorly for an entire half and got some calls their way during the most opportune times of their comeback stretch. They were lucky to be in the game and they still had a great opportunity at the end to take it to OT or win it. That call was small in the grand scheme of the entire game.

Brewersfan255
04-22-2018, 10:17 PM
The impact of this call likely determined the winner of the game. If it goes in the celtics favor, they are at the line, up by 1 and have 2 free throws. During the free throws they could have subbed in defensive minded players and if the bucks scored, celtics had a time out to switch back out defensive players for offensive players for the last possession.

That call with 35 seconds left was way infinitely more impactful than any call in the first quarter could be.

Look at the foul and FT differential in the first four games and let me know what it is.

There was several calls on the Celtics run that were also big that refs missed

FB by the Bucks and Celtics player had the jersey of Delly. Caused a TO and fastbreak basket the other way. Announcers even mentioned it as the play was happening

There was another one where Celtics player dove on the ground and slid like 5 feet and passed it to a open 3 pt shooter. Instead of a travel call it’s three points

So, lol


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corky831
04-22-2018, 11:05 PM
As a Celtics fan, I'm not expecting much from this group....i was surprised they went up 2-0 to be honest. Young guys have stepped up, but haven't played well early in MIL. This is great experience for Tatum, Brown, and Rozier and they have performed well. Stinks we lost Kyrie, Hayward, Smart, and Theis.....4 major components for this season. Game 5 will be fun

crewfan13
04-23-2018, 09:43 AM
As a Celtics fan, I'm not expecting much from this group....i was surprised they went up 2-0 to be honest. Young guys have stepped up, but haven't played well early in MIL. This is great experience for Tatum, Brown, and Rozier and they have performed well. Stinks we lost Kyrie, Hayward, Smart, and Theis.....4 major components for this season. Game 5 will be fun

The injuries may actually turn out to be a blessing in disguise. Fully healthy, the Celtics are probably good enough to win the east, but I still think they would have been crushed by the west, barring significant injury to a western team on the brink of the finals.

The Celtics might lose this series and will almost certainly lose next round, but this has been incredibly valuable for guys like Tatum and brown. Those guys were forced to step up and did. At worst, they’ve increased their trade value (including rozier) and at best they aren’t big time pieces in a future contender. Not exactly what they were expecting for this season, but long term it may be for the best. And this is coming from a bucks fan.

LogoNado
04-23-2018, 09:48 AM
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crewfan13
04-23-2018, 10:12 AM
And I’m not a big nba conspiracy guy and I don’t think the league really has a hand in officiating as much as people think. It’s probably more that officials are humans who are trying to distinguish small movements of 10 guys who are some of the best athletes on the planet at once.

But that game felt very much like the officials had a hand in helping the Celtics come back. They missed a bunch of calls and ate the whistles when the bucks had a decent lead in the 3rd and played a part in the Celtics come back. But then the last few minutes, it did seem like the bucks may have gotten the benefit on a call or two.

AntiG
04-23-2018, 02:18 PM
Hes certainly more developed skill wise than Lebron in high school. But he hasnt taken that next step as a shooter or passer yet.

Lebron in high school was more developed than the large majority of starters now, so I wouldn't put that as a slight to Giannis. There were just certain areas of his game that were rough just like Giannis is now. Lebron has just taken huge leaps in the NBA which is why he's so unstoppable and pretty much great at every aspect of the game.

BoSox47
04-23-2018, 04:40 PM
NBA released the last 2 minute report from the celtics bucks last game. NBA admits it messed up 2 calls in the last 50 seconds that negatively impacted the celtics.

1. Giannis on ojeleye with 47 seconds left

2. Middleton on Jaylen brown with 42 seconds left

Two calls that hurt the celtics while they had the lead with under 50 seconds left. Unreal.

goingfor28
04-23-2018, 05:36 PM
NBA released the last 2 minute report from the celtics bucks last game. NBA admits it messed up 2 calls in the last 50 seconds that negatively impacted the celtics.

1. Giannis on ojeleye with 47 seconds left

2. Middleton on Jaylen brown with 42 seconds left

Two calls that hurt the celtics while they had the lead with under 50 seconds left. Unreal.What about the first 46 minutes?

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hallzi43
04-23-2018, 07:40 PM
NBA released the last 2 minute report from the celtics bucks last game. NBA admits it messed up 2 calls in the last 50 seconds that negatively impacted the celtics.

1. Giannis on ojeleye with 47 seconds left

2. Middleton on Jaylen brown with 42 seconds left

Two calls that hurt the celtics while they had the lead with under 50 seconds left. Unreal.

Actually it admitted to missing 3 calls. But the 3rd call hurts your narrative. Because it resulted in Bledsoe turning the ball over on the pass to Giannis.

The missed call on Giannis didnt hurt too much. He missed the shot anyways. So basically the only real substantial call that didnt go your way with less than 2 minutes was the Middleton foul.

But again, the officials had a big hand in welcoming you back in the game too. So there is that.

BoSox47
04-24-2018, 12:50 PM
Actually it admitted to missing 3 calls. But the 3rd call hurts your narrative. Because it resulted in Bledsoe turning the ball over on the pass to Giannis.

The missed call on Giannis didnt hurt too much. He missed the shot anyways. So basically the only real substantial call that didnt go your way with less than 2 minutes was the Middleton foul.

But again, the officials had a big hand in welcoming you back in the game too. So there is that.


Wrong. Celtics were in the bonus, so if Giannis got called for the foul on the play it would have given the celtics free throws, doesnt matter that Giannis missed. So 2 instances with less than 50 seconds left, Celtics should have been at the free throw line, up by 1.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 01:11 PM
Wrong. Celtics were in the bonus, so if Giannis got called for the foul on the play it would have given the celtics free throws, doesnt matter that Giannis missed. So 2 instances with less than 50 seconds left, Celtics should have been at the free throw line, up by 1.

Milwaukee was in the bonus up 1 with 1:11 on the clock left when they missed the blatant hold by Tatum. *shrug*

crewfan13
04-24-2018, 01:14 PM
Outside of Celtics fans, I doubt there’s a soul in earth that thinks the officiating in that game favored the bucks.

I also noticed you seem to fail to mention the missed call in Tatum with 1:10 left and the bucks up by 1 and also in the bonus reported in the last two minute report.

That being said, I have no idea what the nba is trying to do with those last two minute reports. If they aren’t impacting the game, why release it? Just makes fans complain that their team got screwed.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 01:25 PM
Also lets be clear that Semi Ojeleye would have been the guy going to the line on the offensive foul from Giannis. That certainly isn't an ideal situation for the Celtics and very much a win for the Bucks if they had to send anyone to the line down 1.

Lil Rhody
04-24-2018, 03:57 PM
Kind of hoping it goes 7 so i can go on my birthday. They always play away and this will be my first chance!

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BoSox47
04-24-2018, 06:43 PM
Milwaukee was in the bonus up 1 with 1:11 on the clock left when they missed the blatant hold by Tatum. *shrug*

So with the celtics up by 1, the Bucks should have been awarded 2 free throws and the celtics should have been awarded 4.

BoSox47
04-24-2018, 06:47 PM
Also lets be clear that Semi Ojeleye would have been the guy going to the line on the offensive foul from Giannis. That certainly isn't an ideal situation for the Celtics and very much a win for the Bucks if they had to send anyone to the line down 1.

Idk how you could possibly think its a win for the bucks for giving free throws rather than not. Especially when they next play down the court the refs missed another call on middleton against jaylen. Two opportunities to go to the line taken away and Celtics ended up with 0 points because of missed called while being up by 1.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 07:24 PM
Idk how you could possibly think its a win for the bucks for giving free throws rather than not. Especially when they next play down the court the refs missed another call on middleton against jaylen. Two opportunities to go to the line taken away and Celtics ended up with 0 points because of missed called while being up by 1.

A career 60% ft shooter. I am fine with that. Also i love how you assume all these events play out the same if calls go a different way.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 07:40 PM
Bucks need some shots to fall for anyone besides Middleton right now. Gotta get their legs under them in the 2nd quarter here or it could be quite a hole.

Rivera
04-24-2018, 07:40 PM
good to see Marcus Smart being Marcus Smart, playing D setting hard screens diving for loose balls solid player


thon maker has to be the most clueless basketball player i think ever. hes really all RAW ability with 0 smarts, scary to think if he ever put it together what a force he could be

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 07:50 PM
good to see Marcus Smart being Marcus Smart, playing D setting hard screens diving for loose balls solid player


thon maker has to be the most clueless basketball player i think ever. hes really all RAW ability with 0 smarts, scary to think if he ever put it together what a force he could be

I love how he gets into the heads of opposing players though. He is still so raw but when he plays with emotion it really gets to guys.

mightybosstone
04-24-2018, 07:56 PM
Milwaukee's bench has been awful, but the whole team outside of Giannis and Middleton can't buy a basket. Those two guys are 8-16 for 19 points. Everyone else is 3-17 for 10 points. Not great offensive production...

mightybosstone
04-24-2018, 07:58 PM
Jesus, how does Bledsoe not even attempt to contest that Jaylen Brown 3-pointer? Makes zero sense.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:00 PM
Milwaukee's bench has been awful, but the whole team outside of Giannis and Middleton can't buy a basket. Those two guys are 8-16 for 19 points. Everyone else is 3-17 for 10 points. Not great offensive production...

Agreed they need some help or this is gonna get ugly.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:01 PM
Jesus, how does Bledsoe not even attempt to contest that Jaylen Brown 3-pointer? Makes zero sense.

They are getting killed trying to collapse inside. Wide open 3s all night.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:05 PM
Parker has been sooo bad...

mightybosstone
04-24-2018, 08:09 PM
Parker has been sooo bad...

Was just about to say the same exact thing. I remember when a certain former poster earlier this season ridiculously stated that he'd still rather have Parker than Embiid. There is no longer any legitimate debate to be made on that subject any more. Parker just completely disappears at times, while Embiid is an absolute monster who plays like he's the best player on the floor most nights.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:12 PM
Was just about to say the same exact thing. I remember when a certain former poster earlier this season ridiculously stated that he'd still rather have Parker than Embiid. There is no longer any legitimate debate to be made on that subject any more. Parker just completely disappears at times, while Embiid is an absolute monster who plays like he's the best player on the floor most nights.

Id certainly take Embiid. However i dont think we have seen everything from Parkers potential yet.

Of course i call him out and he responds with 5 points to close the quarter. But hes getting owned defensively when he tries and other times he looks disinterested on defense. I assume its mostly because hes playing more minutes than he is used to in the last few games. But you cant just give up on defense after you miss a shot. Especially when you miss several in a row.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:14 PM
As poorly as bench played being down 11 seems like a win. Now if Prunty can just put some adjustments together and someone can find the basket in the second half we are still very much in this.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:20 PM
7 points from Bench. 5 in the final minute. That wont win you playoff ball games. We got out shot, out rebounded, and they got to the foul line more often. Celtics just outworked us and out coached us the entire first half. I guess that was to be somewhat expected going back to Boston.

Lil Rhody
04-24-2018, 08:25 PM
The Marcus Smart effect

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Rivera
04-24-2018, 08:33 PM
Was just about to say the same exact thing. I remember when a certain former poster earlier this season ridiculously stated that he'd still rather have Parker than Embiid. There is no longer any legitimate debate to be made on that subject any more. Parker just completely disappears at times, while Embiid is an absolute monster who plays like he's the best player on the floor most nights.

was it embiid? or was it porzingis?

Lil Rhody
04-24-2018, 08:40 PM
I miss Irving

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hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:48 PM
Making a run!

Rivera
04-24-2018, 08:48 PM
the bucks just keep hanging around, every time Boston seems ready to put some distance, the bucks just hang around. very dangerous for Boston

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:50 PM
Shabazz show!

Rivera
04-24-2018, 08:50 PM
not gonna lie, I miss Tommy Heinson, man he is going in on the Greek Freak "FINALLY! He just pushes everyone around and can do whatever he wants! About time they call him for something, look at this push"

oh man I miss the homerism of Tommy Heinson

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 08:54 PM
Celtics just hitting timely shots. Just like games 1 and 2. Brings the crowd right back into the game.

Lil Rhody
04-24-2018, 08:58 PM
not gonna lie, I miss Tommy Heinson, man he is going in on the Greek Freak "FINALLY! He just pushes everyone around and can do whatever he wants! About time they call him for something, look at this push"

oh man I miss the homerism of Tommy HeinsonHe had a good take on how to stop the Greek though........

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hallzi43
04-24-2018, 09:21 PM
Bucks just cant make the full climb back from that first quarter collapse.

tredigs
04-24-2018, 09:21 PM
Giannis has been so damn passive. It's unacceptable to have 8 shot attempts in this game. Middleton is 6-17 and Bledsoe's 3-11. WAKE UP, FREAK.

Chronz
04-24-2018, 09:29 PM
Well there goes one parlay

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 09:31 PM
Giannis has been so damn passive. It's unacceptable to have 8 shot attempts in this game. Middleton is 6-17 and Bledsoe's 3-11. WAKE UP, FREAK.

To their credit they havent allowed him to take the shot when he drives. They have hit him hard every time and played great collapse defense on him. We have missed on most shots he has passed out too.

tredigs
04-24-2018, 09:39 PM
To their credit they havent allowed him to take the shot when he drives. They have hit him hard every time and played great collapse defense on him. We have missed on most shots he has passed out too.

He hasn't been nearly aggressive enough, period. He doesn't have great handles and isn't the best passer in the world so it makes doubling him easy, but honestly they only doubled once he got in the paint. Just a really sorry performance to go 5-10 from the field while his cast struggled so mightily.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 10:03 PM
He hasn't been nearly aggressive enough, period. He doesn't have great handles and isn't the best passer in the world so it makes doubling him easy, but honestly they only doubled once he got in the paint. Just a really sorry performance to go 5-10 from the field while his cast struggled so mightily.

They took him out of his game. He isn't a guy you want taking several jumpers from 20+ feet. We didn't lose because Giannis wasn't aggressive enough. We lost because the bench was non existent in the first half and we couldn't hit the wide open shots when they were allowing us back in the game.

Really aggressive game from both sides. They hit the timely shots. We didn't. Missed some crucial FT's down the stretch that could have made this a 1 possession game. I expect better things from us back in MKE and this will go to a game 7. Whether we have what it takes to show up on the road is questionable. But 7 is going to decide this series.

hallzi43
04-24-2018, 11:06 PM
Review rules are pretty silly. They can spend 10+ minutes reviewing fouls for whether they were flagrant or not but they can't review a potential shot clock violation under 2 minutes if the ball doesn't go in the hoop. Basically Horford was lucky to miss the shot as it took another 20+ seconds off the clock.

aman_13
04-24-2018, 11:19 PM
The Bucks just frustrate me man.

aman_13
04-24-2018, 11:25 PM
He hasn't been nearly aggressive enough, period. He doesn't have great handles and isn't the best passer in the world so it makes doubling him easy, but honestly they only doubled once he got in the paint. Just a really sorry performance to go 5-10 from the field while his cast struggled so mightily.

He can be a way better passer. I said this last year too where it looked like he fully arrived against the Raptors. He's far from a complete player and they need to find a way to diversify his offense.

tredigs
04-24-2018, 11:36 PM
He can be a way better passer. I said this last year too where it looked like he fully arrived against the Raptors. He's far from a complete player and they need to find a way to diversify his offense.

His game is less than the sum of his box-score stats, that much is for sure. He's not a top 5 player, that's clear. Borderline top 10.

aman_13
04-25-2018, 12:00 AM
His game is less than the sum of his box-score stats, that much is for sure. He's not a top 5 player, that's clear. Borderline top 10.

Yup

Lil Rhody
04-26-2018, 07:40 AM
Let's finish this series now! I can't believe this bucks team is losing against Rozier and Nader. Think about that for a second. The freak and Parker should be destroying the Celtics but the aren't. If Irving was playing it would of been a sweep this. This bucks team legit sucks

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FlashBolt
04-26-2018, 07:35 PM
Giannis has been very very very very very overrated this season. How is he not dropping 40+ on this Celtics team? They have NO ONE close to being as big as he is with the length he has. This dude needs to stop being a pansy and start demanding the ball every play. His team is suffering from his lack of aggressiveness. Stop going for triple doubles. How is this Bucks team even in the playoffs playing like this? The Celtics have NOTHING for him.. Look across the freaking roster...

More-Than-Most
04-26-2018, 08:09 PM
time to see if Giannis is the player his stats indicate or if he is just all stats and half the player.

Lil Rhody
04-26-2018, 08:38 PM
time to see if Giannis is the player his stats indicate or if he is just all stats and half the player.It's the whole bucks team. They legit have more talent across the board and can't win. Team of losers. I don't get it they should be a top three team but they can't get out of their own way

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Lil Rhody
04-26-2018, 08:40 PM
As I type that we now have a game

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More-Than-Most
04-26-2018, 08:41 PM
and people gave me **** all last year when I said his stats are extremely miss leading... He is quite literally a more athletic version of Kevin Love in terms of impact on those wolves teams... Meaning everything goes through his and because of that his stats are always hella inflated but the team ends up suffering quite a bit because there is no actual offensive continuity. I fully think the bucks can win this game but it really all depends on Giannis because of how the bucks play... He needs to have a 35/15/10 type game.

More-Than-Most
04-26-2018, 08:44 PM
It's the whole bucks team. They legit have more talent across the board and can't win. Team of losers. I don't get it they should be a top three team but they can't get out of their own way

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I agree with you but that is honestly because of how they cater to 1 guy... This team should be much better than they are with the guys they have... the statistical impact of giannis should honestly equate to a 3 seed out East when you look at other guys like a Durant/Bron etc and what they do and how they carry.... 1 guy cant win it all but in basketball 1 guy has a ton to do with the overall impact of a team and if you are going to be a top 5 player you need to be able to get your team a top seed and Giannis has not shown he is capable of it and its strictly because his statistical out put doesnt equal his actual worth because its a ton of empty stats.

PAOboston
04-26-2018, 09:35 PM
Games like this make me miss Kyrie so much

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Lil Rhody
04-26-2018, 09:49 PM
Games like this make me miss Kyrie so much

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Lil Rhody
04-26-2018, 09:51 PM
Flop floppity flop flop flop

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PAOboston
04-26-2018, 10:05 PM
Morris killing the C's tonight. Been pure trash.

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More-Than-Most
04-26-2018, 10:36 PM
The series would be over

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I wish they had kyrie against us next round... Having hayward would be more impactful against the sixers by far... We would feast on kyrie the way we are and the way we play right now. I love the team defense the celtics play right now and I think kyrie like IT hurts that... it doesnt hurt it enough for him not to be a net positive because he is still a damn good player but against us I think we could really hurt the celtics with how we play right now because of kyrie.

PAOboston
04-26-2018, 10:36 PM
Disheartening loss for the Cs. They are so offensively challenged when the bench guys don't click.

Truly mind boggling as to how much the Bucks suck that they are going to a game 7 with this Cs team.

Either team will be easy our for Philly.

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More-Than-Most
04-26-2018, 10:36 PM
big game by giannis... He is the best player in this series and has 1 more game where he needs to act like it.

numba1CHANGsta
04-26-2018, 10:54 PM
Celtics suck

TrueFan420
04-27-2018, 12:00 AM
Celtics suck

Their missing two starters who are both All Stars and two of the top 25 players in league.

numba1CHANGsta
04-27-2018, 12:01 AM
Their missing two starters who are both All Stars and two of the top 25 players in league.

Exactly that's why they suck

TrueFan420
04-27-2018, 12:07 AM
Exactly that's why they suck

Even tho their missing their two best players their going to 7 against a team that has by far the best player on both teams. If they sucked they'd have lost much sooner.

More-Than-Most
04-27-2018, 12:18 AM
Even tho their missing their two best players their going to 7 against a team that has by far the best player on both teams. If they sucked they'd have lost much sooner.

yea they def dont suck... brown/smart/tatum/horford should be enough to do damage out east against anyone.

Cal827
04-27-2018, 12:24 AM
The fact that this torn down Celtics team was able to take the Bucks to 7 games is incredible from the Celts perspective and detrimental to the Bucks (mainly Giannis, as he's the best player in this series by a significant amount).

The fact that Boston is still fighting now, should be enough to warrant Stevens as Coach of the year :laugh2:

hallzi43
04-27-2018, 02:16 AM
Disheartening loss for the Cs. They are so offensively challenged when the bench guys don't click.

Truly mind boggling as to how much the Bucks suck that they are going to a game 7 with this Cs team.

Either team will be easy our for Philly.

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Both benches suck really. Celtics hold an edge with Horford just like anyone does with a decent low post.

And don't get me wrong. I think Philly wins in 5 or 6 because they just have too much 3 point talent for either team to handle. But this Bucks team won't lay down offensively as easy for Philly at all. Bledsoe hasn't had a great series and you can testify a lot of that to the defense of the Celtics. 76ers not nearly that great in half court defense. Bledsoe will come alive if they make it that far. On the flip side it is doubtful Thon Maker is anywhere near the presence against 76ers as he has been against Celtics. Simmons and Embiid will own us in the paint. But it will be physical. I think it will be more physical for 76ers than the Heat matchup. Regardless of who wins game 7.

hallzi43
04-27-2018, 02:22 AM
The fact that this torn down Celtics team was able to take the Bucks to 7 games is incredible from the Celts perspective and detrimental to the Bucks (mainly Giannis, as he's the best player in this series by a significant amount).

The fact that Boston is still fighting now, should be enough to warrant Stevens as Coach of the year :laugh2:

Eh, I think we all knew going into the playoffs that the Celtics certainly could handle themselves and the Bucks weren't a top 4 team in the playoffs.

mightybosstone
04-27-2018, 09:20 AM
The fact that this torn down Celtics team was able to take the Bucks to 7 games is incredible from the Celts perspective and detrimental to the Bucks (mainly Giannis, as he's the best player in this series by a significant amount).

The fact that Boston is still fighting now, should be enough to warrant Stevens as Coach of the year :laugh2:

Mmmm.... I view the series very differently. If you actually look at these rosters, I'd argue that even without Kyrie and Hayward, this Celtics team is very close talent-wise to Milwaukee and arguably more talented overall. They obviously don't have a player remotely close to Giannis right now, but with Horford, Brown and Tatum, I'd argue that they have three of the top five players with Middleton obviously also in the mix.

Throw in Rozier, Morris and Smart, and the Celtics probably have six of the top 8-9 players in this entire series. Bledsoe is certainly in that conversation, but he hasn't played like it and neither have Brogdon or Parker. Then you factor in the coaching, which clearly favors the Celtics.

I actually don't think the Celtics have done anything especially spectacular. This is who they are—a team with no top end talent right now but with solid guys across the board that is extremely well coached and plays phenomenal defense. They're fairly evenly matched with Milwaukee, which is why this series has been as close as it has. And even without Kyrie and Hayward, I would have expected the Celtics to win this series. If you're the Celtics, you need to close this thing out at home in Game 7. No excuses.

Cal827
04-27-2018, 10:43 AM
Mmmm.... I view the series very differently. If you actually look at these rosters, I'd argue that even without Kyrie and Hayward, this Celtics team is very close talent-wise to Milwaukee and arguably more talented overall. They obviously don't have a player remotely close to Giannis right now, but with Horford, Brown and Tatum, I'd argue that they have three of the top five players with Middleton obviously also in the mix.

Throw in Rozier, Morris and Smart, and the Celtics probably have six of the top 8-9 players in this entire series. Bledsoe is certainly in that conversation, but he hasn't played like it and neither have Brogdon or Parker. Then you factor in the coaching, which clearly favors the Celtics.

I actually don't think the Celtics have done anything especially spectacular. This is who they are—a team with no top end talent right now but with solid guys across the board that is extremely well coached and plays phenomenal defense. They're fairly evenly matched with Milwaukee, which is why this series has been as close as it has. And even without Kyrie and Hayward, I would have expected the Celtics to win this series. If you're the Celtics, you need to close this thing out at home in Game 7. No excuses.

Fair enough, I guess I'm mainly surprised that this is going 7 because Giannis stands out as the only big star on either team because of the injuries. Playoff time seems to be for star players, as we usually see teams that run as a committee knocked out by a team with better star players (E.g. Atlanta a few years back, pretty much any East team that ran into Lebron James :laugh2: )

It also helps Boston, that they've had time to adapt to the roster they have, as Hayward hasn't been there all year, and Irving has been out for the last 3 weeks of the season. Also until recently Smart was out too.

Side note, what the hell happened to Bledsoe? This guy was averaging 20+ a season on efficient numbers, and I know that his numbers took a little dip because of the Bucks system, he was still pretty efficient. This post season, he's just been killed on both sides of the court. I guess post season jitters (he's never been in the playoffs as a starter)?

hallzi43
04-27-2018, 01:00 PM
Side note, what the hell happened to Bledsoe? This guy was averaging 20+ a season on efficient numbers, and I know that his numbers took a little dip because of the Bucks system, he was still pretty efficient. This post season, he's just been killed on both sides of the court. I guess post season jitters (he's never been in the playoffs as a starter)?

Celtics have an elite half court defense and Bledsoe has seen the brunt of it. Rozier has most certainly gotten into his head. If we make it past this series against Philly, I believe you will see an uptick in Bledsoes production.

Cal827
04-27-2018, 02:37 PM
Celtics have an elite half court defense and Bledsoe has seen the brunt of it. Rozier has most certainly gotten into his head. If we make it past this series against Philly, I believe you will see an uptick in Bledsoes production.

Oh as a Raptors fan who has seen the hellish Boston defense 4 times a year over the past 3 years, believe me I know :laugh2: . But Yeah, Rozier has gotten into his head.

It's nuts to see good players get stumped. I mean I've seen Lowry deal with it vs the Bucks/Kyrie last year, and Derozan vs Paul George a few years back.

goingfor28
04-28-2018, 06:10 PM
Hope the bucks win

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Cal827
04-28-2018, 07:32 PM
While I have taken a couple shots at Milwaukee in the playoffs so far, a win in Boston could serve big to the the progression of Giannis and some of the younger players in the next few years.

ewing
04-28-2018, 07:39 PM
No idea who is going to win this game. I picked Boston so I'm sticking with them but really have no idea.

ewing
04-28-2018, 08:14 PM
can we agree sideline reporters are awful?

ewing
04-28-2018, 08:16 PM
I think Al Horfort went from drastically underrated when with the Hawks, to slightly overrated with the Celts, and back to underrated now. quality dude

goingfor28
04-28-2018, 08:19 PM
I think Al Horfort went from drastically underrated when with the Hawks, to slightly overrated with the Celts, and back to underrated now. quality dudeSome might even say, historic.

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goingfor28
04-28-2018, 08:20 PM
Giannis trying to do too much early on

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ewing
04-28-2018, 08:26 PM
Some might even say, historic.

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i remember when he came to Boston I was all about it and some people said he was too small for the 5 and it seemed that way for awhile but now that they have longer wings I think he is fine

ewing
04-28-2018, 08:28 PM
I also think that Baynes dude was a very underrated pick up. dude fills the lane and he has a nice little touch

ewing
04-28-2018, 08:30 PM
dumb play by Bledso still didn't like the tech

Cal827
04-28-2018, 08:30 PM
Giannis trying to do too much early on

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At this point he has as many field goals on his own basket as he does on Bostons :laugh2:


Also the chants LOL

ewing
04-28-2018, 08:31 PM
refs taking control don't us forgot about them

Cal827
04-28-2018, 08:31 PM
Boston 15 straight points to end the quarter... Jesus :laugh2:

ewing
04-28-2018, 08:32 PM
my guy Baynes delivers on the J

hallzi43
04-28-2018, 08:35 PM
Delly just straight up sucked for. 4 minutes straight.

Cal827
04-28-2018, 08:36 PM
These refs don't like Bledsoe :laugh2:

More-Than-Most
04-28-2018, 08:41 PM
the type of team ball that the celtics play is just so amazing in all honesty... The bucks on paper should be a top 4 seed... One of these 2 teams are gonna get a ton of confidence after this game and I am not sure who I want to win.