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kdspurman
03-21-2018, 05:17 PM
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Cal827
03-21-2018, 06:39 PM
Derozan is playing in this game vs Cleveland, after missing yesterday's with what I'm reading is a hip injury. I'm kinda surprised they didn't give him the back to back off, seeing that it really doesn't change anything in the standings (as forgive me if I'm jumping to conclusions, but Boston is still fairly far back and if Kyrie is hurt, they might have problems winning enough to catch/overpass Toronto, especially if the 2 remaining games between the two are either split or won by Toronto)

Anyways, summary of the responses:

People who dislike Toronto if Cleveland wins: See?! Toronto can't beat Lebron James. Cleveland in 4! *Someone brings up the Raptors/Respect thread for the 1035th time*
People who dislike Toronto if Toronto wins: It's a regular season game, they'll lose to them in May

People who are Raptor Homers if Cleveland wins: Toronto's taking the game easy, Cleveland still doesn't have a shot in May if they meet.

People who are Raptor Homers if Toronto wins: See?! Lebron don't have **** on Toronto this year! Good luck getting by Indiana or Washington in the 1st round :laugh2:

Normal fans of either team: It's a good win for the (Raptors or Cavaliers) against a team that will likely be in the way of our playoff hopes in May. If our teams meet, it should be a good series.

Vee-Rex after seeing the Aftermath in the comments after the game: Well I'm gonna find JR and get in on that henny :drunk:

Giannis94 after the game: I think that *Gets Banned*

Cal827
03-21-2018, 06:59 PM
Other than Toronto/Cleveland, Washington/San Antonio seems like it might be a good game

Vee-Rex
03-21-2018, 07:22 PM
Derozan is playing in this game vs Cleveland, after missing yesterday's with what I'm reading is a hip injury. I'm kinda surprised they didn't give him the back to back off, seeing that it really doesn't change anything in the standings (as forgive me if I'm jumping to conclusions, but Boston is still fairly far back and if Kyrie is hurt, they might have problems winning enough to catch/overpass Toronto, especially if the 2 remaining games between the two are either split or won by Toronto)

Anyways, summary of the responses:

People who dislike Toronto if Cleveland wins: See?! Toronto can't beat Lebron James. Cleveland in 4! *Someone brings up the Raptors/Respect thread for the 1035th time*
People who dislike Toronto if Toronto wins: It's a regular season game, they'll lose to them in May

People who are Raptor Homers if Cleveland wins: Toronto's taking the game easy, Cleveland still doesn't have a shot in May if they meet.

People who are Raptor Homers if Toronto wins: See?! Lebron don't have **** on Toronto this year! Good luck getting by Indiana or Washington in the 1st round :laugh2:

Normal fans of either team: It's a good win for the (Raptors or Cavaliers) against a team that will likely be in the way of our playoff hopes in May. If our teams meet, it should be a good series.

Vee-Rex after seeing the Aftermath in the comments after the game: Well I'm gonna find JR and get in on that henny :drunk:

Giannis94 after the game: I think that *Gets Banned*

I just assumed DeRozan rested last night's game, but because the league changed the rules they gotta list some sort of injury as a reason, but I could be wrong.

And yeah, brace yourself for the overreactions after this game. :laugh2:

bucketss
03-21-2018, 07:27 PM
which team plays defense first ?

Vee-Rex
03-21-2018, 07:28 PM
Calderon aka big papi!!!

zn23
03-21-2018, 07:40 PM
Cavs with the flukiest shooting quarter you'll see. 81%. Pretty much couldn't miss a thing if they tried.

zn23
03-21-2018, 07:47 PM
Lol Delon Wright just owned Ante Zizic with the same move back to back.

aman_13
03-21-2018, 07:49 PM
Cavs with the flukiest shooting quarter you'll see. 81%. Pretty much couldn't miss a thing if they tried.

Ehh the Raps are playing some poor defense. The Cavs are playing really well.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 07:51 PM
I'm a little worried about the Raptors defense. They've been crushed in the first half of games recently... and in that OKC game throughout :laugh2:

Cal827
03-21-2018, 07:52 PM
This game right now: Defense is overrated anyways.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 07:58 PM
:laugh2: Lebron just stepped out of the way of the Derozan dunk

zn23
03-21-2018, 07:59 PM
Pascal Siakam is dominating right now. On offense and defense.

zn23
03-21-2018, 08:02 PM
Fred Vanleet, Jakob Poetl and Pascal Siakam are the 3 main X-factors for the Raps.

The Raps now have a length defender in Siakam who kind slow down LeBron and even Kevin Love. Kevin put up two air balls with Siakam on him and even LeBron had some troubles scoring.

This is what they didn't have in the past, and why they're so much better this year than in previous years.

zn23
03-21-2018, 08:03 PM
I'm not sure Casey should be getting as much credit as someone like Masai Ujiri who did a masterul job assembling this team. Which is clearly a championship contender.

SteBO
03-21-2018, 08:06 PM
Wasnít the Cavs defense suppose to be better post trades?! What Iím watching is a dumpster fire.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 08:08 PM
Raptors score 79 in the first half.... I haven't seen a team do this well offensively this season since.... Golden State put up 85 vs the Raptors about 2 months ago :laugh2:

zn23
03-21-2018, 08:10 PM
Lovely response by the Raps in the 2nd quarter beatdown. The bench, as it always does, dominated the game.

pebloemer
03-21-2018, 08:12 PM
Wasnít the Cavs defense suppose to be better post trades?! What Iím watching is a dumpster fire.

While I'm to presume Nance is a good defender, there is no way he can account for this mess at the defensive end. Maybe TT can help?

Raptors have 4 players with double figures in scoring already before half. Another 4 on pace. CJ Miles isn't even playing...

zn23
03-21-2018, 08:18 PM
LeBron will need to enter beast mode in the 2nd half to give the Cavs any chance of winning the game. He's capable of doing it.

flea
03-21-2018, 08:34 PM
This game ****ing sucks. Who can stand to watch this?

bucketss
03-21-2018, 08:37 PM
klye lowry 18 threes in 3 games.

More-Than-Most
03-21-2018, 08:39 PM
feels bad.... a blow out will probably stop ben from his 4th trip/doub in 5 games.

More-Than-Most
03-21-2018, 08:39 PM
the *** kicking is on... sixers are just on another level.

More-Than-Most
03-21-2018, 08:42 PM
13/7/9 on 67 percent shooting with 2 steals in only 24 minutes for big ben

More-Than-Most
03-21-2018, 08:43 PM
here comes lebron and the cavs.

zn23
03-21-2018, 08:44 PM
You have to get Serge Ibaka out of the game. He's a huge liability if he can't hit wide open 3s.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 08:49 PM
Cleveland is storming back... The Raptors seemed to have forgotten how they played in the 2nd quarter :laugh2:

zn23
03-21-2018, 08:51 PM
Cavs are starting their run now...

smith&wesson
03-21-2018, 08:52 PM
Demar looks like heís sleeping out there

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 08:54 PM
Calderon is doing a poor job this 4th quarter. Needs to start moving the ball.

warfelg
03-21-2018, 08:55 PM
The score of this Sixers/Griz game looks like they are playing 2K on rookie mode.

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 08:57 PM
lebron is about to take over.. i can smell it

warfelg
03-21-2018, 09:01 PM
So the Cavs are hitting everything.

If you want opposite end of the spectrum: Griz are 36% from the field.

aman_13
03-21-2018, 09:04 PM
So the Cavs are hitting everything.

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:06 PM
sooo... lowry pushed LeBron there and no call. if cavs get a freebie next time, this is why

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:10 PM
:laugh2: Cleveland's shooting like 70% from 3.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:19 PM
:facepalm:

Ugh Ibaka is useless

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:20 PM
love with 22/12/4. Cavs really missed him.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:20 PM
Not sure if the fatigue is starting to hit them here, or is it them just ****ing up... probably both :laugh2:

bucketss
03-21-2018, 09:20 PM
Lol please take ibaka out the game.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:20 PM
****ING IBAKA :laugh2:

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:22 PM
that was such a flop.

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:26 PM
:laugh2: That was a bullish call against Lebron there

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:27 PM
lol lebron sucks at FT's.. pass it back to Love wtf -.-

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:29 PM
Lebron has 17 assists with zero turnovers? he saw what ben did a few days ago lol

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:31 PM
lol? DeRozan jumps into lebron and wants a foul call...

warfelg
03-21-2018, 09:32 PM
Lebron has 17 assists with zero turnovers? he saw what ben did a few days ago lol

If a rookie pushed him to do that then he needs other motivations.....Or Ben is that good.

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:34 PM
damn! 17 assists is the highest without a turnover! KING!

bucketss
03-21-2018, 09:35 PM
2nd game raps needed a 3 and demar decides to takes a 2,

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:37 PM
lol? DeRozan jumps into lebron and wants a foul call...

Yeah... I didn't get what he was doing there :laugh2: (though he was laughing on the replay, so I think he knew that he wasn't fouled)

nastynice
03-21-2018, 09:41 PM
Nice win by the cavs, starting to gear up for the playoffs now that love is back.

Last year when they were giving shooting fouls more loosely it wasn't an issue, but now that they're calling that tighter it just allows teams to foul at the end in 3 pt games rather than let the other guys put up a 3. Gotta change something. Everyone gonna be doing it in the playoffs this year, it doesn't make sense not to in a 3 pt game

Cal827
03-21-2018, 09:41 PM
The Raptors need to focus on defense in practice tomorrow. I know they played 4 in 5 games, but they gave up near 120 vs Dallas, and 130+ vs the Thunder and Cavs... the Magic game was a bit of an anomaly, but they were on pace to give up a lot until Orlando couldn't hit the side of a barn. If they want a chance to win the East, they better get it together or they'll get run over.

GG Cavs fans, see you in two weeks :laugh2:

Also, anyone know how Giannis is? I saw on a notification that he had to leave because of an injury and won't return.

Giannis94
03-21-2018, 09:45 PM
LeGm is a ***** #factz

prodigy
03-21-2018, 09:46 PM
Cavs down 5 key guys and still beats the raptors. I know it's just a regular season game but the raps really wanted this one. That's why they rested Rosan. Bad loss for them and great win for cavs.

It's important to remind the raps where they suppose to be when finals come around. Which is the same place they always are. The couch.

pebloemer
03-21-2018, 09:46 PM
The Raptors need to focus on defense in practice tomorrow. I know they played 4 in 5 games, but they gave up near 120 vs Dallas, and 130+ vs the Thunder and Cavs... the Magic game was a bit of an anomaly, but they were on pace to give up a lot until Orlando couldn't hit the side of a barn. If they want a chance to win the East, they better get it together or they'll get run over.

GG Cavs fans, see you in two weeks :laugh2:

Also, anyone know how Giannis is? I saw on a notification that he had to leave because of an injury and won't return.

I agree. The defense has definitely been slipping.

aman_13
03-21-2018, 09:47 PM
Well anyways, we know the narrative now. That's fine, I saw a lot of good things.

Toxeryll
03-21-2018, 09:47 PM
damn! 17 assists is the highest without a turnover! KING!

Hmm that cant be true. I remember Chris Paul had 20 points, 20 assists, 0 turnovers last year.

Great game by the King! Nice win by the Cavs.

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 09:50 PM
Hmm that cant be true. I remember Chris Paul had 20 points, 20 assists, 0 turnovers last year.

Great game by the King! Nice win by the Cavs.

you are right. CP3 also had a 17 assist without a turnover as well last season. It was ESPN that showed that 17 was the highest right after the game ended.

WaDe03
03-21-2018, 09:50 PM
Lol please take ibaka out the game.

He was permabanned.

WaDe03
03-21-2018, 09:52 PM
THE HEAT are the Easts only hope against the Cavs.

WaDe03
03-21-2018, 09:53 PM
BAE got injured.

Toxeryll
03-21-2018, 09:55 PM
you are right. CP3 also had a 17 assist without a turnover as well last season. It was ESPN that showed that 17 was the highest right after the game ended.

damn, thats insane. He really is a point god

Giannis94
03-21-2018, 10:02 PM
BAE got injured.
Life = over

FlashBolt
03-21-2018, 10:15 PM
wtf? lost in all of this, dwight has a 30/30 game. Comes back to beat the Nets. Vee-Rex happy as HELL lol!

Vee-Rex
03-21-2018, 10:26 PM
wtf? lost in all of this, dwight has a 30/30 game. Comes back to beat the Nets. Vee-Rex happy as HELL lol!

bro, I saw the Nets up like 10 points with a few minutes left and I chalked it up as another L for the pick. Then I saw the score at the end and was like WTF :laugh2:

warfelg
03-21-2018, 10:41 PM
Sounds like Giannis has a sprained ankle. No word on if it's a high sprain or not.

More-Than-Most
03-21-2018, 10:51 PM
Sounds like Giannis has a sprained ankle. No word on if it's a high sprain or not.

they started to come back after he went down lol.... Hope he is alright though.

Giannis94
03-21-2018, 10:58 PM
Sounds like Giannis has a sprained ankle. No word on if it's a high sprain or not.
I guess the silver lining is that the pistons and horncats both suck

warfelg
03-21-2018, 11:45 PM
976654778993344512

Love this team.

warfelg
03-21-2018, 11:47 PM
Wizards down big, which means at the end of the night the Sixers are the 4 seed in the east.

Vee-Rex
03-21-2018, 11:47 PM
With a Sixers win and Spurs putting the beatdown on the Wiz, Sixers will be the new 4th seed.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8/480w_s.jpg

More-Than-Most
03-21-2018, 11:59 PM
With a Sixers win and Spurs putting the beatdown on the Wiz, Sixers will be the new 4th seed.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8/480w_s.jpg

That is what happens when top players contribute more than just stats... Embiid literally effects the game so much and does so much its insane.


Sixers/cavs ECF

WaDe03
03-22-2018, 12:03 AM
Im hoping the Pacers or Sixers can get the 3rd seed

tredigs
03-22-2018, 12:13 AM
Another night of the West mopping the floor with the East. The 20 year theme continues.

FlashBolt
03-22-2018, 12:22 AM
Interesting stat: The Rockets have a better winning percentage versus teams above .500 (77% win%) then any other team in the NBA period. The Warriors are the only ones close at 69% against teams over .500. The Raptors, as great as their record is, are 21-17 against teams over .500 (55%), and the Celtics about the same at 22-18. All other East teams - including Cleveland - have a losing record against teams over .500.

interesting stat is Cavs are 34-0 this season when leading after Q3. That seems crazy to me. they're really good at closing games or something?

tredigs
03-22-2018, 12:27 AM
Interesting stat: The Rockets have a better winning percentage versus teams above .500 (77% win%) then any other team in the NBA period. The Warriors are the only ones close at 69% against teams over .500. The Raptors, as great as their record is, are 21-17 against teams over .500 (55%), and the Celtics about the same at 22-18. All other East teams - including Cleveland - have a losing record against teams over .500.

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 12:47 AM
http://www.nba.com/standings#/


just remember our bet giannis because you will now be a fan of the sixers and embiid.

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 12:50 AM
Another night of the West mopping the floor with the East. The 20 year theme continues.

but... your team blew a 3-1 lead vs an East team in the finals with 2 of the 3 games at home :shrug:

That was an east team right? : )

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 12:51 AM
sixers.... the only east team to beat a west team tonight : )

tredigs
03-22-2018, 12:52 AM
interesting stat is Cavs are 34-0 this season when leading after Q3. That seems crazy to me. they're really good at closing games or something?

I thought I heard that on the broadcast the other night, but it sounded way off and I just figured I mis-heard something. I'm looking right now and they're 8-4 in 3 point games and 13-18 in 10 point games, so yeah that has to be wrong?

Edit: I don't know though, I just briefly skimmed their previous 5 close losses going back to before their big win streak and they were behind going into the 4th in all of those (so, no effect there). All the other games were wins or they're just losing pretty big, so maybe that's true. Which would be the oddest stat ever.

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 01:10 AM
This right here is why Ben simmons is going to be the very best in basketball soon

https://gfycat.com/yawningoblongdevilfish


You know you cant guard me right? You know you cant guard me right? Shades of Jordan.

Saddletramp
03-22-2018, 05:58 AM
Interesting stat: The Rockets have a better winning percentage versus teams above .500 (77% win%) then any other team in the NBA period. The Warriors are the only ones close at 69% against teams over .500. The Raptors, as great as their record is, are 21-17 against teams over .500 (55%), and the Celtics about the same at 22-18. All other East teams - including Cleveland - have a losing record against teams over .500.

We get it. You've been building up the Rockets as some behemoth so that when the Warriors win you'll say how hard that obstacle was to overcome but it just shows how great the Warriors really are and if the Warriors lose then you'll say that the Rockets have been on such a different level that the season was wrapped up months prior and you've been so impressed with this Rockets team.

Building up your opponent so much that a win is an OH MY GOD WIN and a loss is a WELL, SAW THAT COMIN'; CANT FAULT THE WARRIORS FOR LOSING TO THAT TEAM. Same fun and nuanced trolling that your boy lol used to do. Carry that torch, brah.

TheDish87
03-22-2018, 08:58 AM
That is what happens when top players contribute more than just stats... Embiid literally effects the game so much and does so much its insane.


Sixers/cavs ECF

were gonna bounce the Cavs in the first round when they slip to the 6 seed.

prodigy
03-22-2018, 09:49 AM
interesting stat is Cavs are 34-0 this season when leading after Q3. That seems crazy to me. they're really good at closing games or something?

pretty much

WaDe03
03-22-2018, 09:50 AM
were gonna bounce the Cavs in the first round when they slip to the 6 seed.

Then get smacked by the Heat in the 2nd round.

prodigy
03-22-2018, 09:56 AM
We get it. You've been building up the Rockets as some behemoth so that when the Warriors win you'll say how hard that obstacle was to overcome but it just shows how great the Warriors really are and if the Warriors lose then you'll say that the Rockets have been on such a different level that the season was wrapped up months prior and you've been so impressed with this Rockets team.

Building up your opponent so much that a win is an OH MY GOD WIN and a loss is a WELL, SAW THAT COMIN'; CANT FAULT THE WARRIORS FOR LOSING TO THAT TEAM. Same fun and nuanced trolling that your boy lol used to do. Carry that torch, brah.

Cavs gonna whoop that Warrior ***** in the finals!!! They gonna change the name of that bridge on their stupid jersey's to "king James Bridge".

TheDish87
03-22-2018, 10:58 AM
Then get smacked by the Heat in the 2nd round.

lol

WaDe03
03-22-2018, 11:17 AM
lol

You're much more likely to lose to the Heat in 5 than you are to beat the Cavs in the 1st round.

TheDish87
03-22-2018, 12:06 PM
You're much more likely to lose to the Heat in 5 than you are to beat the Cavs in the 1st round.

if you say so. i think we are more likely to beat the Cavs then the heat beat the Celtics in the first.

WaDe03
03-22-2018, 12:10 PM
if you say so. i think we are more likely to beat the Cavs then the heat beat the Celtics in the first.

I don't think so, especially if there's no Kyrie and Smart, possibly Brown.

Cal827
03-22-2018, 12:31 PM
I just hope the playoffs don't have as many injuries as last year... so many players went down and weren't near as effective:

Thomas, Lowry, Parker, Griffin, Gobert, Irving (had a scare), Leonard :pity:

tredigs
03-22-2018, 12:48 PM
We get it. You've been building up the Rockets as some behemoth so that when the Warriors win you'll say how hard that obstacle was to overcome but it just shows how great the Warriors really are and if the Warriors lose then you'll say that the Rockets have been on such a different level that the season was wrapped up months prior and you've been so impressed with this Rockets team.

Building up your opponent so much that a win is an OH MY GOD WIN and a loss is a WELL, SAW THAT COMIN'; CANT FAULT THE WARRIORS FOR LOSING TO THAT TEAM. Same fun and nuanced trolling that your boy lol used to do. Carry that torch, brah.

Close, but no. That was just an elaborate and nuanced dig at Cleveland (one 'lol' never would have conjured up, let's not be obtuse here my good man).

As far as Houston goes, the results speak for themselves. I'm on the objective side concerning them. I wish they were not quite this good. You just come off paranoid. I would be too given their leaders playoff pedigree, but unfortunately I don't put a ton of stock into it.

TheDish87
03-22-2018, 01:13 PM
I don't think so, especially if there's no Kyrie and Smart, possibly Brown.

well, yea of course thats different.

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 01:39 PM
We get it. You've been building up the Rockets as some behemoth so that when the Warriors win you'll say how hard that obstacle was to overcome but it just shows how great the Warriors really are and if the Warriors lose then you'll say that the Rockets have been on such a different level that the season was wrapped up months prior and you've been so impressed with this Rockets team.

Building up your opponent so much that a win is an OH MY GOD WIN and a loss is a WELL, SAW THAT COMIN'; CANT FAULT THE WARRIORS FOR LOSING TO THAT TEAM. Same fun and nuanced trolling that your boy lol used to do. Carry that torch, brah.

:laugh:

this is so spot on. I love me some Tre but he has pumped the rockets more than hell probably rockets players lol... its a win win for him... if the rockets beat the warriors they were the better team so it was expected and not a massive choke job... if the underdog warriors somehow manage to beat the powerhouse rockets then the warriors are just that much better

FlashBolt
03-22-2018, 01:44 PM
:laugh:

this is so spot on. I love me some Tre but he has pumped the rockets more than hell probably rockets players lol... its a win win for him... if the rockets beat the warriors they were the better team so it was expected and not a massive choke job... if the underdog warriors somehow manage to beat the powerhouse rockets then the warriors are just that much better

Or he could be legitimately serious. I've disagreed with Tre on a lot of things but that doesn't mean the guy has to lie about something as trivial as this. Rockets are a great team and if they are clicking, they are tough to beat. Their record with a healthy CP3/Capela/Harden is evidence they can beat any team. Just gotta prove it.

Htownballa1622
03-22-2018, 02:03 PM
I see both sides of these conversations pertaining the Warrios/Rockets but let's get one thing straight.

Warriors are and should be the favorites. I don't want to hear how Rockets choked or whatever if/when they lose to a team that HAS been superior. Warriors can play the underdog role all they want. They're no underdog.

It went from "we want the number one seed" to "we don't need 1 seed. Just need to be healthy."

FlashBolt
03-22-2018, 02:23 PM
I see both sides of these conversations pertaining the Warrios/Rockets but let's get one thing straight.

Warriors are and should be the favorites. I don't want to hear how Rockets choked or whatever if/when they lose to a team that HAS been superior. Warriors can play the underdog role all they want. They're no underdog.

It went from "we want the number one seed" to "we don't need 1 seed. Just need to be healthy."

What? No excuses, dude. If Harden or CP3 choke, no one will trust them again. They have the two best teammates they have ever played with in one another in a system that in today's league, is the perfect idea. You gotta stop with this stuff bro. If Harden chokes, 100% he should be called out for it. If they don't win but Harden/CP3 perform well and Warriors just end up doing better, it's just a case of Warriors being better. But they can't go down like chokers. Not again. And I don't want to hear it about James Harden next season if he comes up very short.

tredigs
03-22-2018, 02:30 PM
To be clear, I have the Warriors as favorites if that series goes down at full health, even with Houston having HCA. It's just that they're not big favorites, and yes an upset is clearly not out of the question. If you guys can not watch this team + look at the historical numbers the Rockets are putting up and not come to the same conclusion that I have, I'm not sure what to tell you. You don't get the best offensive rating in NBA history over the 16 Warriors, 92 Bulls and 88 Lakers by being pretenders. Against anyone.

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 03:01 PM
Or he could be legitimately serious. I've disagreed with Tre on a lot of things but that doesn't mean the guy has to lie about something as trivial as this. Rockets are a great team and if they are clicking, they are tough to beat. Their record with a healthy CP3/Capela/Harden is evidence they can beat any team. Just gotta prove it.

curry/durant/klay/green.... they just won a title with ease.... Mike D has proven to be a regular season coach time and time again and harden just last year choked like no tomorrow in the playoffs and as much as i like cp3 a healthy warriors team puts this team down in 5.... it was the same crap people tried to do with the cavs last year and how omg they would match up and test the warriors because of this this and this... they didnt and the rockets wont.

When healthy the warriors should be favored in 5 with multiple blow outs.

FlashBolt
03-22-2018, 03:18 PM
curry/durant/klay/green.... they just won a title with ease.... Mike D has proven to be a regular season coach time and time again and harden just last year choked like no tomorrow in the playoffs and as much as i like cp3 a healthy warriors team puts this team down in 5.... it was the same crap people tried to do with the cavs last year and how omg they would match up and test the warriors because of this this and this... they didnt and the rockets wont.

When healthy the warriors should be favored in 5 with multiple blow outs.

*When healthy. That's such a large factor no one pays attention to. Curry's ankle issues are serious. If he's not healthy, Rockets gain another advantage.

But no one pays attention to the fact that Rockets have been historically great offensively this seasobn because they're still focusing on what Warriors can do. Think about it.. if Rockets have two playoff games vs the Warriors where they can drop 20 threes+ (which is certainly possibly), they are up two games that easily. And it's certainly possible. With the way the league is played today, a bad team can literally shoot a great team off the court and it wouldn't be surprising to me one bit. We're talking about a Rockets team that has perfected an offense in a league today where many teams are trying to duplicate it. Of course I have the Warriors as favorites. But we shouldn't ignore the very plausible event that an upset can happen. Warriors had their own upset vs the Mavs nearly a decade ago. I'd say that was more of an upset than this Rockets vs Warriors could be. Point is, if we had to choose, most of us would go Warriors. But this Rockets team is like 34-2 with a healthy CP3/Capela/Harden. You don't post that type of record unless it's legit. Not this deep into the season.

Htownballa1622
03-22-2018, 03:36 PM
What? No excuses, dude. If Harden or CP3 choke, no one will trust them again. They have the two best teammates they have ever played with in one another in a system that in today's league, is the perfect idea. You gotta stop with this stuff bro. If Harden chokes, 100% he should be called out for it. If they don't win but Harden/CP3 perform well and Warriors just end up doing better, it's just a case of Warriors being better. But they can't go down like chokers. Not again. And I don't want to hear it about James Harden next season if he comes up very short.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm talking about if the Rockets lose. Not collapse. You and I differ in what is a choke/collapse or whatever. But I'm talking if Rockets play well(Harden and CP3 included with maybe a bad game here or there) and lose.

aman_13
03-22-2018, 03:37 PM
Baby dinosaurs is the term/phrase being used to describe the Raptors. I sometimes wonder if there is legitimate hate towards the Raptors. It's almost as if they enjoy their utter ignorance towards the team being justified. They don't have access to the market, so why not just hope that it fails.

Vee-Rex
03-22-2018, 03:40 PM
Baby dinosaurs is the term/phrase being used to describe the Raptors. I sometimes wonder if there is legitimate hate towards the Raptors. It's almost as if they enjoy their utter ignorance towards the team being justified. They don't have access to the market, so why not just hope that it fails.

Over one game. Smh.

FlashBolt
03-22-2018, 03:45 PM
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm talking about if the Rockets lose. Not collapse. You and I differ in what is a choke/collapse or whatever. But I'm talking if Rockets play well(Harden and CP3 included with maybe a bad game here or there) and lose.

Why would anyone make the case that Houston choked if they played well? Gun to the head, I'm willing to bet by a wide margin that the Warriors are beating the Rockets. But if the games are close and Harden or CP3 choke, are you guys to sit here and say, "We weren't supposed to beat them anyways."? I don't think that's the right approach to take. If you have a chance, it's possible.

FlashBolt
03-22-2018, 03:49 PM
Baby dinosaurs is the term/phrase being used to describe the Raptors. I sometimes wonder if there is legitimate hate towards the Raptors. It's almost as if they enjoy their utter ignorance towards the team being justified. They don't have access to the market, so why not just hope that it fails.

Welcome to the party. It's a great thing, dude. Raptors are finally being hated - which means they're doing something right. You know how many times people mocked the Thunder when we lost to the Grizzlies or when we choked vs the Warriors? It's part of being a fan. You guys just went unnoticed so it's new for your team right now but since Raptors are arguably a top five team in the regular season thus far, this stuff is always going to happen.

aman_13
03-22-2018, 03:55 PM
Over one game. Smh.

It's seriously baffling. I was hoping to get a breakdown of the game and all i got was the same old Raptors. I'm just going to tune out some of the main stream analysis. I think Raptor fans are learning it's a waste of time.

aman_13
03-22-2018, 03:56 PM
Welcome to the party. It's a great thing, dude. Raptors are finally being hated - which means they're doing something right. You know how many times people mocked the Thunder when we lost to the Grizzlies or when we choked vs the Warriors? It's part of being a fan. You guys just went unnoticed so it's new for your team right now but since Raptors are arguably a top five team in the regular season thus far, this stuff is always going to happen.

I'm not going to lie, I seriously didn't know it worked this way. I guess I was ignorant to it myself. It's very different when you are emotionally invested.

tredigs
03-22-2018, 04:02 PM
curry/durant/klay/green.... they just won a title with ease.... Mike D has proven to be a regular season coach time and time again and harden just last year choked like no tomorrow in the playoffs and as much as i like cp3 a healthy warriors team puts this team down in 5.... it was the same crap people tried to do with the cavs last year and how omg they would match up and test the warriors because of this this and this... they didnt and the rockets wont.

When healthy the warriors should be favored in 5 with multiple blow outs.
Yeah, I definitely never bought the Cavs as legit contenders last year, despite being a late comeback away from being up 2-1.

These Rockets are a far better team.

More-Than-Most
03-22-2018, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I definitely never bought the Cavs as legit contenders last year, despite being a late comeback away from being up 2-1.

These Rockets are a far better team.

the cavs that came back against the warriors without Durant would beat these rockets... I like this rocket team but again history suggests that this system isnt maintainable in a 7 game series against very good teams who actually defend... I hate harden but he is amazing... I love CP3 but he is getting up there and I am in no way shape or form a believer in CC as an equal talent wise to any of the cavs big 3 in that championship season nor do i buy in to the depth of this rocket team against teams that defend throughout a series.

Where exactly does this team better the warriors in any area??? The warriors literally are better across the board... I get the rockets are hella efficient but from a talent stand point this warriors team would beat this rockets team missing one of their big 4 not named Durant in a 7 game series though it would be close if they were missing Curry of said big 4.... How many times are we going to go through this where someone tries to justify why the warriors arent head and shoulders better than everyone else talent wise? This warriors team would literally down the rockets in 5 with 2 20 point blowouts if fully healthy.

I hate the warriors as much as the next guy but lets call a spade a spade here... the only way the warriors dont walk to a championship with ease is if curry or durant miss the post season and even then they would be favorites in every series without 1 of those 2.

tredigs
03-22-2018, 05:19 PM
the cavs that came back against the warriors without Durant would beat these rockets... I like this rocket team but again history suggests that this system isnt maintainable in a 7 game series against very good teams who actually defend... I hate harden but he is amazing... I love CP3 but he is getting up there and I am in no way shape or form a believer in CC as an equal talent wise to any of the cavs big 3 in that championship season nor do i buy in to the depth of this rocket team against teams that defend throughout a series.

Where exactly does this team better the warriors in any area??? The warriors literally are better across the board... I get the rockets are hella efficient but from a talent stand point this warriors team would beat this rockets team missing one of their big 4 not named Durant in a 7 game series though it would be close if they were missing Curry of said big 4.... How many times are we going to go through this where someone tries to justify why the warriors arent head and shoulders better than everyone else talent wise? This warriors team would literally down the rockets in 5 with 2 20 point blowouts if fully healthy.

I hate the warriors as much as the next guy but lets call a spade a spade here... the only way the warriors dont walk to a championship with ease is if curry or durant miss the post season and even then they would be favorites in every series without 1 of those 2.
We're very likely to see this series, and you are very likely going to see that you are wrong.

Where they are better is in shooting over 13 more threes a game at a clip that is close enough that the Warriors do not cover from their 2pt shots (our top gunners are more efficient, but the Warriors simply don't have the depth of 3 pt shooting that Houston boasts), the Warriors don't get to the line as much (despite the narrative that foul shooting drops significantly for guys in the playoffs, the facts say otherwise), the Warriors are not quite as good on the boards (they struggle with Capela especially), and the defense is only marginally better at best. They are also a better team in ISO, which it does pay to be late in the game in the playoffs.

Now, the Warriors are very close on all these fronts that Houston has them, and they may still have the two best players on the floor (though with Harden it is close, and CP3 being #1 in the NBA in RPM followed by Harden then Curry... And much much later KD does not to unnoticed). But yeah, to think the Warriors just flat out have their number across the board, no, they absolutely do not.

And the #1 factor of winning it all of course, is health. The Rockets have it, and the Warriors now have a looming/constant question mark over their most important player going into the playoffs.

It's time to wake up fellas, these Rockets are for real.

IKnowHoops
03-23-2018, 12:36 AM
I thought I heard that on the broadcast the other night, but it sounded way off and I just figured I mis-heard something. I'm looking right now and they're 8-4 in 3 point games and 13-18 in 10 point games, so yeah that has to be wrong?

Edit: I don't know though, I just briefly skimmed their previous 5 close losses going back to before their big win streak and they were behind going into the 4th in all of those (so, no effect there). All the other games were wins or they're just losing pretty big, so maybe that's true. Which would be the oddest stat ever.

I think itís indicadive of a team with the hugest on/off switch Iíve ever seen.

IKnowHoops
03-23-2018, 12:53 AM
If Kyrie is out for the rest of the season then that means the Cavs won the IT trade immediately and currently

WaDe03
03-23-2018, 09:20 AM
I'm not going to lie, I seriously didn't know it worked this way. I guess I was ignorant to it myself. It's very different when you are emotionally invested.

I've pissed excellence for the last 15 years, eventually you learn to ignore it but there's so many trolls out there.

prodigy
03-24-2018, 02:26 PM
If Kyrie is out for the rest of the season then that means the Cavs won the IT trade immediately and currently

Well i think we still gotta wait for the nets pick. Zizic has been very good for the Cavs. my new Fav player right now. I do not want to see TT getting more minutes then him. Which i know he will smh...

FlashBolt
03-24-2018, 03:41 PM
Well i think we still gotta wait for the nets pick. Zizic has been very good for the Cavs. my new Fav player right now. I do not want to see TT getting more minutes then him. Which i know he will smh...

lue will give it to him because he's a veteran and final four from that 2015 cavs team. just like he will give J.R. 30 minutes per night and Cedi will fall out of the rotation. Zizic actually finishes better around the rim and is a bigger body than Tristan but I bet you Tristan will get 30 minutes and play more than Lance as well. Sad case. I hope they realize what's wrong. Tristan+J.R. must have the worst +/- on the team. Imagine those two goofballs on the court at the same time.