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kdspurman
01-30-2018, 01:55 PM
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mightybosstone
01-30-2018, 02:23 PM
Such a bummer that Cleveland and Detroit have a nationally televised game, but Griffin isn't going to be a part of it. That would have been such a fun game to watch. On the flip side, the Clippers/Blazers game also likely just got a lot less interesting. TNT's ratings are going to take a hit tonight...

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 03:47 PM
Such a bummer that Cleveland and Detroit have a nationally televised game, but Griffin isn't going to be a part of it. That would have been such a fun game to watch. On the flip side, the Clippers/Blazers game also likely just got a lot less interesting. TNT's ratings are going to take a hit tonight...

Interesting commentary tonight though I would say. Going to be a lot of speculation going on during both games.

Vee-Rex
01-30-2018, 09:22 PM
IT has like 3 turnovers in 3 minutes.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 09:24 PM
IT has like 3 turnovers in 3 minutes.

Make that 4, and LeBron looks like he doesn't care. Recipe for disaster.

Vee-Rex
01-30-2018, 09:25 PM
make that 4 turnovers in 5 minutes :laugh2:

Vee-Rex
01-30-2018, 09:26 PM
Make that 4, and LeBron looks like he doesn't care. Recipe for disaster.

Yeah this looks bad.

HandsOnTheWheel
01-30-2018, 09:31 PM
Man, IT is trash

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 09:34 PM
Wade about to carry the team.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 09:38 PM
Of course Lue sitting there not coaching.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 09:49 PM
Bullock and Jeff Green are killing the Cavs.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 10:06 PM
If the Cavs can get AB I would almost consider starting Wade at PG and having AB defend the PG. we'll see though, I still have faith in IT but Wade and LeBron play so good out there together.

mightybosstone
01-30-2018, 10:10 PM
Jesus the Rockets are thin tonight. No Paul or Ariza, and Gordon is now out the rest of the night. Every time I think this team is finally healthy, they're hurt again.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 10:12 PM
Kevin Love broke his hand smh.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 10:14 PM
Likely out 6-8 weeks is what Windhorst says.

corky831
01-30-2018, 10:26 PM
Tough blow for the Cavs....

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 10:46 PM
I'm sure the Love injury is effecting them some but the Cavs starters should be embarrassed

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 10:52 PM
Wade just passed Bird on all time scoring on that and 1.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 10:55 PM
Wades free throws have fallen off a cliff, hard to get a rhythm barely shooting them though.

Cal827
01-30-2018, 10:58 PM
Raptors beat Minnesota 109-104 in Toronto tonight. :D

I don't get this team. We've lost so many times to teams missing their star player(s): Clippers w/o Griffin, Spurs without Leonard, hell even these T'wolves without Butler.. We play best when the other teams are completely healthy and ready to go :laugh2:

.... Now I'm really scared to see Cleveland in the playoffs :hide:

Toxeryll
01-30-2018, 11:00 PM
Raptors beat Minnesota 109-104 in Toronto tonight. :D

I don't get this team. We've lost so many times to teams missing their star player(s): Clippers w/o Griffin, Spurs without Leonard, hell even these T'wolves without Butler.. We play best when the other teams are completely healthy and ready to go :laugh2:

.... Now I'm really scared to see Cleveland in the playoffs :hide:

I dont know man, Raptors played **** in the first half. Far from best

Toxeryll
01-30-2018, 11:02 PM
LeBron mad at Frye for some reason, when it was his fault that they did not get a shot off at the end of the 3rd.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:10 PM
Show me something here IT.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:16 PM
Harden is 1 rebound away from a 60 point triple double and this place is dead lol

Texan_Rocket
01-30-2018, 11:20 PM
Harden is 1 rebound away from a 60 point triple double and this place is dead lol

Exactly what i was thinking! What’s wrong with people he’s having an amazing night and not one mention of it till now.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:22 PM
LeBron is so lost on defense. Starters ****ing suck.

Texan_Rocket
01-30-2018, 11:23 PM
Wade just passed Bird on all time scoring on that and 1.

Happy for him, Wade is one of those all time greats that you can’t help but love. The guy has had a great career

c.c.
01-30-2018, 11:23 PM
Exactly what i was thinking! What’s wrong with people he’s having an amazing night and not one mention of it till now.

We was too busy watching it!

Cal827
01-30-2018, 11:26 PM
There are only two opinions on MVP this season: James Harden, or you're wrong.

Where are the Rocket fans though? Bosstone, Htown, C.C are constantly representing their team, but unfortunately for them, they're not here after a 60 point triple double... I don't care that it was against a **** team, that's incredible :clap:

tredigs
01-30-2018, 11:26 PM
They needed every bit of that 60 point triple double to beat the Magic tonight too. Impressive game from el Beard.

Warriors look totally out of it on D tonight. They're going to be dropping this one unless they turn it around in the next minute or two.

Cal827
01-30-2018, 11:27 PM
We was too busy watching it!

:laugh2: Fair enough

HandsOnTheWheel
01-30-2018, 11:27 PM
MVP Harden

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:28 PM
Always someone playing out of their *** against the Cavs. Tonight it's Stanley Johnson Bullock and Buycks.

LeBron ****ing sucks right now.

tredigs
01-30-2018, 11:29 PM
There are only two opinions on MVP this season: James Harden, or you're wrong.

Where are the Rocket fans though? Bosstone, Htown, C.C are constantly representing their team, but unfortunately for them, they're not here after a 60 point triple double... I don't care that it was against a **** team, that's incredible :clap:

His campaign lost a lot of steam in December when they were losing all those games with him and then he went down for a couple weeks. He's still the top candidate when you factor everything in though.

aman_13
01-30-2018, 11:32 PM
Ben Simmons and Jalen Brown need to shut up. I hate it when players are complaining.

basch152
01-30-2018, 11:33 PM
pistons starting 4 bench players and dominating the Cavs.

how embarrassing.

dhopisthename
01-30-2018, 11:34 PM
They needed every bit of that 60 point triple double to beat the Magic tonight too. Impressive game from el Beard.

Warriors look totally out of it on D tonight. They're going to be dropping this one unless they turn it around in the next minute or two.

yeah I can't believe the looks the Jazz are getting tonight. warriors are going to make a run to at least get this close. Jazz just about every 2nd half have a stretch where they can't score.

Texan_Rocket
01-30-2018, 11:36 PM
His campaign lost a lot of steam in December when they were losing all those games with him and then he went down for a couple weeks. He's still the top candidate when you factor everything in though.

Agree, that was mostly due to Capela being out though imo. I think they lost 8 of 12 with him out or something like that. It affected the “consensus” MVP front runner in Harden, but they have started clicking again lately. Just need to be healthy and this team should start rolling again.

Great performance by Harden tonight with Paul out, showed that he can Cary the load, doesn’t matter what team they played . 60 point triple double is no joke

aman_13
01-30-2018, 11:36 PM
Good win for the Pistons. They look amped up and they should be, they got a superstar caliber player coming their way

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:42 PM
Wade with 18-8-5 on 6-8 shooting and a +15 in a game the Cavs lost by 11. Hes the most impactful player on the Cavs and has become very underrated this year. The Cavs are his team, they better get him some help at the deadline.

Oh yea, probably a terrible idea by Lue to take Wade out with 7 left as the Pistons instantly jumped to a 16 point lead. Thank god Frye is back in the rotation though.

Cavs bench outscores the starters 62-52, the starters suck.

tredigs
01-30-2018, 11:45 PM
yeah I can't believe the looks the Jazz are getting tonight. warriors are going to make a run to at least get this close. Jazz just about every 2nd half have a stretch where they can't score.

Doesn't help our chances that Rubio and Ingles are outplaying Curry and KD lol. Klay's the only one really bringing it so far for GS. The Jazz are hitting some tough shots to boot. Feels like their game.

aman_13
01-30-2018, 11:45 PM
Harden is incredible. What a night!!

aman_13
01-30-2018, 11:46 PM
Wade with 18-8-5 on 6-8 shooting and a +15 in a game the Cavs lost by 11. Hes the most impactful player on the Cavs and has become very underrated this year. The Cavs are his team, they better get him some help at the deadline.

Oh yea, probably a terrible idea by Lue to take Wade out with 7 left as the Pistons instantly jumped to a 16 point lead. Thank god Frye is back in the rotation though.

Cavs bench outscores the starters 62-52, the starters suck.

They are his team?

zn23
01-30-2018, 11:49 PM
the Nuggets lose again, they'll lose their next two games vs. OKC and GSW as well.

Scoots
01-30-2018, 11:50 PM
Jeez the Warriors suck.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:51 PM
They are his team?

I'm just stating facts lol.

They need to put the ball in his hands more to close too, always been a better closer than LeBron.

aman_13
01-30-2018, 11:52 PM
Jeez the Warriors suck.

Lol

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:52 PM
On the bright side, good night for the Nets pick.

Htownballa1622
01-30-2018, 11:54 PM
There are only two opinions on MVP this season: James Harden, or you're wrong.

Where are the Rocket fans though? Bosstone, Htown, C.C are constantly representing their team, but unfortunately for them, they're not here after a 60 point triple double... I don't care that it was against a **** team, that's incredible :clap:

:cheers:

Was out to dinner and came home and saw final 4 minutes. WOW!

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:55 PM
Jeez the Warriors suck.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yby8r6r7

Who says no? Cavs pick going to the Warriors.

goingfor28
01-30-2018, 11:55 PM
James Harden. MVP.

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aman_13
01-30-2018, 11:57 PM
I'm just stating facts lol.

They need to put the ball in his hands more to close too, always been a better closer than LeBron.

He's Batman, LeBron is ...

Seriously, that Love injury really sucks. I feel bad for him.

WaDe03
01-30-2018, 11:58 PM
He's Batman, LeBron is ...

Seriously, that Love injury really sucks. I feel bad for him.

LeBron is Catwoman.

Yea that injury sucks, they need to go all in at the deadline but I have no clue what their plan is and I'm not sure they do either to be honest.

tredigs
01-31-2018, 12:00 AM
LeBron is Catwoman.

Yea that injury sucks, they need to go all in at the deadline but I have no clue what their plan is and I'm not sure they do either to be honest.

:laugh:

HandsOnTheWheel
01-31-2018, 12:02 AM
Cavs are better off benching IT permanently at this point

It's a must that they trade him while he has any value as well

aman_13
01-31-2018, 12:02 AM
LeBron is Catwoman.

Yea that injury sucks, they need to go all in at the deadline but I have no clue what their plan is and I'm not sure they do either to be honest.

It's a very tough situation. I don't not envy that GM job. LeBron is not committing and the owner is thinking about selling the team. Not much stability and a whole lot of question marks.

WaDe03
01-31-2018, 12:05 AM
It's a very tough situation. I don't not envy that GM job. LeBron is not committing and the owner is thinking about selling the team. Not much stability and a whole lot of question marks.

Thing is, a lot of this would be solved had they just paid Griffin.

c.c.
01-31-2018, 12:08 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yby8r6r7

Who says no? Cavs pick going to the Warriors.

I doubt if the Cavs take that Draymond dude, the Warriors might need to add a pick or two.

WaDe03
01-31-2018, 12:12 AM
I doubt if the Cavs take that Draymond dude, the Warriors might need to add a pick or two.

Was going to bring Curry in instead of Green and send Green to a 3rd team for a lottery pick to send the Cavs as well. It for some reason Curry can't be traded.

dhopisthename
01-31-2018, 12:12 AM
Jeez the Warriors suck.

the warriors just look they don't want even be here.

WaDe03
01-31-2018, 12:13 AM
Warriors have to get Javale some help, inexcusable.

JAZZNC
01-31-2018, 12:30 AM
Yeah, when Joe Ingles hits more 3s than the entire Warriors team it ain't good for the Warriors. Bet that doesn't happen again ever, but I'll take the win! Mitchell was abusing King Klay in the 3rd. Love that kid!

Scoots
01-31-2018, 12:45 AM
Warriors playing like it's 1999.

mightybosstone
01-31-2018, 01:15 AM
:cheers:

Was out to dinner and came home and saw final 4 minutes. WOW!

Caught a good chunk of the second and third quarters, but had to miss the end. Guy was a monster tonight. If he doesn't win the MVP this year, then they need to change the name of the award.

Htownballa1622
01-31-2018, 01:19 AM
Caught a good chunk of the second and third quarters, but had to miss the end. Guy was a monster tonight. If he doesn't win the MVP this year, then they need to change the name of the award.

I didn't even know EG went out. So short handed.

I will watch entire replay 2mor.

JAZZNC
01-31-2018, 01:25 AM
And the Jazz playing like its 1998 haha!

Saddletramp
01-31-2018, 02:17 AM
"He's got 30 points now. He might hafta go 60 tonight." ---Rockets commentator Matt Bullard with 10 minutes to go in the third.


No CP3, no Ariza, mostly no Eric Gordon. What an amazing performance.

FlashBolt
01-31-2018, 04:50 PM
"He's got 30 points now. He might hafta go 60 tonight." ---Rockets commentator Matt Bullard with 10 minutes to go in the third.


No CP3, no Ariza, mostly no Eric Gordon. What an amazing performance.

Well, not exactly like they are going up against a juggernaut of a team. Magic is one of the worst defensive NBA teams.

WaDe03
01-31-2018, 05:05 PM
Well, not exactly like they are going up against a juggernaut of a team. Magic is one of the worst defensive NBA teams.

So lol? He had a 60 point triple double.

FlashBolt
01-31-2018, 07:06 PM
So lol? He had a 60 point triple double.

Yeh but saying he is without CP3/Ariza/Eric Gordon when they don't even need those guys to win doesn't make sense.

mightybosstone
01-31-2018, 07:10 PM
Well, not exactly like they are going up against a juggernaut of a team. Magic is one of the worst defensive NBA teams.

Kobe put up his 81 playing against a horrible defensive team in Toronto. That doesn't take away from its significance. Superstars play against thin, less-talented opponents all the time. But in the history of the NBA, nobody's ever posted a triple double with 60 points. And I can assure you there were nights when elite guys went against far worse teams than this Magic squad last night.

FlashBolt
01-31-2018, 07:37 PM
Kobe put up his 81 playing against a horrible defensive team in Toronto. That doesn't take away from its significance. Superstars play against thin, less-talented opponents all the time. But in the history of the NBA, nobody's ever posted a triple double. And I can assure you there were nights when elite guys went against far worse teams than this Magic squad last night.

Moot point. I'm responding to the argument that Harden didn't have any teammates so it was "more" impressive. They beat a team that Harden should beat with four other players in a local gym. Plus, all those key pieces being out is why Harden was able to dominate the ball on his way to a 60 point performance. Never argued the significance of it. It's underrated as hell considering no one is even talking about it as much.

WaDe03
01-31-2018, 07:42 PM
Yeh but saying he is without CP3/Ariza/Eric Gordon when they don't even need those guys to win doesn't make sense.

No ones on the top of their game every night, anyone can beat anyone. Sometimes it takes those efforts.

FlashBolt
01-31-2018, 07:48 PM
No ones on the top of their game every night, anyone can beat anyone. Sometimes it takes those efforts.

They are 6-31 and the worst defensive team the past 37 games. Like I said, it was amazing to see Harden dominate like that but I'm simply responding to the post that lots of key players were out.

Saddletramp
01-31-2018, 08:13 PM
They are 6-31 and the worst defensive team the past 37 games. Like I said, it was amazing to see Harden dominate like that but I'm simply responding to the post that lots of key players were out.

To your point about not needing those guys to beat Orlamdo, all Orlando had to do was stop one guy. Harden didn't have Paul, Arita and mostly Gordon to carry the scoring load and like Bosstone somewhere, Green is streaky as AF.

A lot of guys have had the hot hand, so to speak, for a game and a lot of guys have played this Magic team (and worse defensive teams) but no one ever did what Harden did and when he was basically the only offensive threat, it's even more impressive. To me at least.

FlashBolt
01-31-2018, 08:14 PM
To your point about not needing those guys to beat Orlamdo, all Orlando had to do was stop one guy. Harden didn't have Paul, Arita and mostly Gordon to carry the scoring load and like Bosstone somewhere, Green is streaky as AF.

A lot of guys have had the hot hand, so to speak, for a game and a lot of guys have played this Magic team (and worse defensive teams) but no one ever did what Harden did and when he was basically the only offensive threat, it's even more impressive. To me at least.

Orlando couldn't stop anyone if they tried, though. It is impressive but without some key players, Harden was able to shoot 30x and have the ball in his hands enough to pump some stats. I'm willing to bet Harden would be able to average 45-50 against this Orlando team, tbh. They're having one of the worst 37 game stretch ever.

mightybosstone
01-31-2018, 08:30 PM
Moot point. I'm responding to the argument that Harden didn't have any teammates so it was "more" impressive. They beat a team that Harden should beat with four other players in a local gym.
That's completely insulting. This is the freaking NBA. In the entire league, you're looking at the best 300-400 guys on the planet in any given season at their respective craft. I don't care how bad the Magic are, but you couldn't beat them with one NBA guy and four random dudes at your local YMCA, and you'd be ignorant to suggest otherwise.

That Magic team is bad, but they've beaten teams this season with and without Gordon on the roster. They beat the Celtics last week with Gordon putting up a whopping 11 points on 17 shots. Don't act like they don't have NBA players on the roster, because they absolutely do.


Plus, all those key pieces being out is why Harden was able to dominate the ball on his way to a 60 point performance. Never argued the significance of it. It's underrated as hell considering no one is even talking about it as much.
Yes, but he also HAD to dominate the ball so much because everyone was hurt. It's a chicken/egg scenario. It's impressive that Harden led them to a victory with a 60-point triple double with so many guys out, but he wouldn't have posted those numbers if those guys had been playing. But, to your point, Kobe doesn't put up 81 points against Toronto if that Lakers team had been any good. Superstars sometimes have to do spectacular things because of the absence of help, but that doesn't make what they do any less spectacular.

mightybosstone
01-31-2018, 08:50 PM
Orlando couldn't stop anyone if they tried, though. It is impressive but without some key players, Harden was able to shoot 30x and have the ball in his hands enough to pump some stats. I'm willing to bet Harden would be able to average 45-50 against this Orlando team, tbh. They're having one of the worst 37 game stretch ever.

Also, I'd like to point out that this is Harden's fourth 50-point performance this season, so last night's game should hardly come as a surprise. He put up a ridiculous 56/13 game agains the same Utah team that crushed the Warriors last night. They're a top 5 defensive squad right now and were earning a reputation as such early in the season when Harden destroyed them.

Good defenses. Bad defenses. Harden can score on pretty much anybody on any given night. So I couldn't care less how good or bad Orlando's defense is.

FlashBolt
02-01-2018, 03:56 AM
That's completely insulting. This is the freaking NBA. In the entire league, you're looking at the best 300-400 guys on the planet in any given season at their respective craft. I don't care how bad the Magic are, but you couldn't beat them with one NBA guy and four random dudes at your local YMCA, and you'd be ignorant to suggest otherwise.

That Magic team is bad, but they've beaten teams this season with and without Gordon on the roster. They beat the Celtics last week with Gordon putting up a whopping 11 points on 17 shots. Don't act like they don't have NBA players on the roster, because they absolutely do.


Yes, but he also HAD to dominate the ball so much because everyone was hurt. It's a chicken/egg scenario. It's impressive that Harden led them to a victory with a 60-point triple double with so many guys out, but he wouldn't have posted those numbers if those guys had been playing. But, to your point, Kobe doesn't put up 81 points against Toronto if that Lakers team had been any good. Superstars sometimes have to do spectacular things because of the absence of help, but that doesn't make what they do any less spectacular.

Why are you guys taking offense to something I am not arguing? My point is, Orlando is having one of the worst 37 games stretch in NBA history. HISTORY. Someone said, "No CP3, Ariza, or Eric Gordon." Does James Harden need those guys to beat this Magic team? No. So that's all I said. Are you going to try and pretend that score 60 points and a triple double vs the Warriors isn't 10x more impressive than vs the Magic? So context DOES matter. It was against a team that really, played no defense and on a night where James Harden is motivated, these games are going to happen. Last year, I can't remember but he destroyed a team for one of the most efficient 50 point triple double game in NBA history. He can do this. I never said he couldn't or it wasn't impressive. Just making a point that the Rockets were good enough to beat this Orlando team with or without those players mentioned.

Saddletramp
02-01-2018, 05:42 AM
Again, the point in bringing up no CP3/Ariza/Gordon it was to meant that with not much offensive help, he put his head down and got things done. Once Gordon left seconds into the second quarter, Harden didn't get another rest. And he just kept getting better as the night went on. Yeah, it was against the freaking Magic but so what? To do what he did against any team is impressive. The Magic didn't make a basket the last few minutes and 1 point was made by a non-Harden Rocket the last 4 minutes or so. Could've easily turned into a loss especially with the Magic hitting half of their 3s.

Harden didn't allow that to happen.