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MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-24-2018, 04:13 PM
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c.c.
01-24-2018, 04:15 PM
LeBron drove him to this point

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-24-2018, 04:20 PM
Old team. Nets pick maybe only thing they got. Even that pick isn't a given hovering around #8 to #10. LeBron probably wants that pick traded for one last good run. Maybe LeBron pulls a shocker and retires and buys the Cavs? He's got his rings and 30k in points scored. Not much left to prove now other then more rings with another team.

Lakers + Giants
01-24-2018, 04:20 PM
LeBron leaving CONFIRMED

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 04:23 PM
Lmfao. This is obvious. LeBron is leaving and Gilbert wants to cash out before Cleveland Cavailers as a franchise loses hundreds of millions in value. Apparently, Gilbert only wanted LeBron to sign a long-term contract because he wanted to sell the team after that knowing the team will generate money with LeBron there. Now, with LeBron possibly (likely) departing, they better do it quick.

mightybosstone
01-24-2018, 04:28 PM
Twist ending: Lebron buys the Cavs, promotes himself to VP of operations, general manager, coach and head of concessions. He then convinces the banana boat to get together this summer, and they win the next five championships before retiring.

(Seriously, though, the drama in Cleveland is becoming super entertaining. I have no clue how this all plays out.)

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 04:33 PM
Lakers
Houston
Spurs

One of those teams will be it. No question.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 05:06 PM
:dance:

IndyRealist
01-24-2018, 05:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gilbert isn't exactly the richest owner in the league, and a good portion of his fortune is tied up in the Cavs. With the way teams are selling, I would have cashed out after the championship.

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 05:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gilbert isn't exactly the richest owner in the league, and a good portion of his fortune is tied up in the Cavs. With the way teams are selling, I would have cashed out after the championship.

He wanted the Goodyear contract and I'm guessing was waiting for the TV deals to line up? I don't think those deals were finalized yet at the time. Still a good time to sell it but who would have predicted that the Warriors were going to actually get KD? Cavs may very well be the 2x NBA champions back-to-back as well.

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 05:20 PM
Lol @ SAS.

I'd wait until someone more credible reports this.

Can't blame SAS though - this is the perfect time to start releasing stories out of nowhere and the world will swallow it up.

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 05:22 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gilbert isn't exactly the richest owner in the league, and a good portion of his fortune is tied up in the Cavs. With the way teams are selling, I would have cashed out after the championship.

Gilbert is extremely rich, certainly one of the richer owners in the league (probably top 6 or so). Also, a lot of his fortune ISN'T tied up in the Cavs. He owns practically half of Detroit and lots of businesses and real estate in Cleveland.

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 05:26 PM
Gilbert is extremely rich, certainly one of the richer owners in the league (probably top 6 or so). Also, a lot of his fortune ISN'T tied up in the Cavs. He owns practically half of Detroit and lots of businesses and real estate in Cleveland.

A good portion. I would reckon about 20% of someone's fortune is a significant amount. Plus, how much do you think his businesses in Cleveland would be affected by LeBron's departure? A lot.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 05:28 PM
Gilbert is extremely rich, certainly one of the richer owners in the league (probably top 6 or so). Also, a lot of his fortune ISN'T tied up in the Cavs. He owns practically half of Detroit and lots of businesses and real estate in Cleveland.

Let's say SAS is being truthful and his report is accurate, what do you think is his thinking?

Sell because Lebron is leaving? Don't want to pay tax for non contender.
Sell because Lebron would be more likely to stay for diff owner and Dan gets to cash out?

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 05:30 PM
A good portion. I would reckon about 20% of someone's fortune is a significant amount. Plus, how much do you think his businesses in Cleveland would be affected by LeBron's departure? A lot.

I think he'd still be a billionaire even without the Cavs. I guess just 20% of 5 billion is a significant amount but I wouldn't count on Gilbert imploding or anything if he sold the team.

IndyRealist
01-24-2018, 05:37 PM
Gilbert is extremely rich, certainly one of the richer owners in the league (probably top 6 or so). Also, a lot of his fortune ISN'T tied up in the Cavs. He owns practically half of Detroit and lots of businesses and real estate in Cleveland.

I thought he was the cruise ship guy? No?

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 05:39 PM
Let's say SAS is being truthful and his report is accurate, what do you think is his thinking?

Sell because Lebron is leaving? Don't want to pay tax for non contender.
Sell because Lebron would be more likely to stay for diff owner and Dan gets to cash out?

I think it's a mixture of everything.

He knows if LeBron leaves the Cavs will be worth far less, and if he can sell a new owner on LeBron possibly staying then he could cash out.

It's funny because during the summer Gilbert promised that he would NEVER move the Cavs to another city. But he never said he wouldn't sell the team. The Q is set to be fully renovated (140 million) starting in February, so I'm not sure how it plays out with this new report. Maybe a completely renovated arena is a good selling point?

It makes a ton of sense for him to want to sell the team and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's true, but SAS man... he knows how to grab attention. We'll see.

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 05:45 PM
I think he'd still be a billionaire even without the Cavs. I guess just 20% of 5 billion is a significant amount but I wouldn't count on Gilbert imploding or anything if he sold the team.

Just to expand on this:


Gilbert's real estate empire currently includes about 100 properties in Detroit, including the site of the former Hudson's department store, where crews plan to break ground on a $900-million project to build Michigan's tallest skyscraper on Dec. 14.

The dude is filthy rich even outside of the Cavs. Estimated to be worth about 6 billion in September.

If he indeed views the Cavs as a sinking ship then he certainly can afford to sell (even for cheap) and move on.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 05:47 PM
I think it's a mixture of everything.

He knows if LeBron leaves the Cavs will be worth far less, and if he can sell a new owner on LeBron possibly staying then he could cash out.

It's funny because during the summer Gilbert promised that he would NEVER move the Cavs to another city. But he never said he wouldn't sell the team. The Q is set to be fully renovated (140 million) starting in February, so I'm not sure how it plays out with this new report. Maybe a completely renovated arena is a good selling point?

It makes a ton of sense for him to want to sell the team and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's true, but SAS man... he knows how to grab attention. We'll see.

I gotcha. I just think if he attempts to sell without Lebron guarantee, he won't get full market value.

So I wonder, if true, what is his motivation?

I still don't know what Lebron is going to do but a future with Cavs seems risky for he or another owner. They're in a tough spot.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-24-2018, 05:49 PM
He probably gets close to $2B for the Cavs if he's full owner.

AllBall
01-24-2018, 05:49 PM
Twist ending: Lebron buys the Cavs, promotes himself to VP of operations, general manager, coach and head of concessions. He then convinces the banana boat to get together this summer, and they win the next five championships before retiring.

(Seriously, though, the drama in Cleveland is becoming super entertaining. I have no clue how this all plays out.)

https://i.imgur.com/PLN529x.gif

Bostonjorge
01-24-2018, 05:49 PM
Cavs are about to implode.

Cal827
01-24-2018, 05:51 PM
Twist ending: Lebron buys the Cavs, promotes himself to VP of operations, general manager, coach and head of concessions. He then convinces the banana boat to get together this summer, and they win the next five championships before retiring.

(Seriously, though, the drama in Cleveland is becoming super entertaining. I have no clue how this all plays out.)

:laugh2:

If this happens, PSD should collectively send you a Medal (well most of this).

I think he might buy the Cavs in the near future, but that would be after he leaves and the Cavs value falls after his departure.

Lakers + Giants
01-24-2018, 05:54 PM
Lakers
Houston
Spurs

One of those teams will be it. No question.

I completely agree. I think Houston are the favs then spurs then us.

Chronz
01-24-2018, 06:00 PM
I thought he was the cruise ship guy? No?

Thought that was Miami guy arison

WaDe03
01-24-2018, 06:02 PM
Thought that was Miami guy arison

That's right.

mightybosstone
01-24-2018, 06:05 PM
I completely agree. I think Houston are the favs then spurs then us.

Early in the season, I was probably somewhere around this:
Cleveland: 70 percent
LA: 20 percent
Houston: 5 percent
Field: 5 percent

Now it's probably closer to something like this:
Cleveland: 50 percent
LA: 20 percent
Houston: 20 percent
Field: 10 percent

I still think the Lakers have a good shot because of his home in LA and his ties to Hollywood. But I've got to think the Lavar Ball drama doesn't do them any favors. And I would have thought the Rockets to be most likely third destination, but still a heavy long shot. Now I'm thinking the possibility of him coming here is more and more likely by the day.

Overall, though, the more drama that comes up from this Cleveland team in the next few months, the less likely it is that he returns. I'd call it a coin flip now that he stays or leaves. By seasons's end, the Cavs could be a long shot to keep him.

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 06:14 PM
Early in the season, I was probably somewhere around this:
Cleveland: 70 percent
LA: 20 percent
Houston: 5 percent
Field: 5 percent

Now it's probably closer to something like this:
Cleveland: 50 percent
LA: 20 percent
Houston: 20 percent
Field: 10 percent

I still think the Lakers have a good shot because of his home in LA and his ties to Hollywood. But I've got to think the Lavar Ball drama doesn't do them any favors. And I would have thought the Rockets to be most likely third destination, but still a heavy long shot. Now I'm thinking the possibility of him coming here is more and more likely by the day.

Overall, though, the more drama that comes up from this Cleveland team in the next few months, the less likely it is that he returns. I'd call it a coin flip now that he stays or leaves. By seasons's end, the Cavs could be a long shot to keep him.

I agree, but honestly I think there's more of a chance that he goes to Houston than LA.

I just don't see it with LA unless they already had Paul George and another superstar in place waiting for him.

Put me at 50% Cleveland, 35% Houston, 10% LA, and 5% field.

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 06:17 PM
Early in the season, I was probably somewhere around this:
Cleveland: 70 percent
LA: 20 percent
Houston: 5 percent
Field: 5 percent

Now it's probably closer to something like this:
Cleveland: 50 percent
LA: 20 percent
Houston: 20 percent
Field: 10 percent

I still think the Lakers have a good shot because of his home in LA and his ties to Hollywood. But I've got to think the Lavar Ball drama doesn't do them any favors. And I would have thought the Rockets to be most likely third destination, but still a heavy long shot. Now I'm thinking the possibility of him coming here is more and more likely by the day.

Overall, though, the more drama that comes up from this Cleveland team in the next few months, the less likely it is that he returns. I'd call it a coin flip now that he stays or leaves. By seasons's end, the Cavs could be a long shot to keep him.

That LaVar problem is temporary if they want it to be. Magic Johnson would trade Lonzo in a heartbeat if LeBron came knocking wanting to come there. I can't believe you aren't giving the Spurs more of a chance. I think they're right up there with Houston and Lakers. Cleveland, I'm giving it a 50% chance he is leaving as well.

SfgiantsJD3
01-24-2018, 06:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gilbert isn't exactly the richest owner in the league, and a good portion of his fortune is tied up in the Cavs. With the way teams are selling, I would have cashed out after the championship.

He is in top 10 http://fadeawayworld.com/2017/04/27/ranking-the-top-15-richest-nba-owners/

Forbes has his current net worth a 6.4B https://www.forbes.com/profile/daniel-gilbert/ of which 6-800M is Cavs. So Cavs are 10-15% of his net worth

Last year team was valued at 1.2B figure 1.3 floor this year.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:24 PM
That LaVar problem is temporary if they want it to be. Magic Johnson would trade Lonzo in a heartbeat if LeBron came knocking wanting to come there. I can't believe you aren't giving the Spurs more of a chance. I think they're right up there with Houston and Lakers. Cleveland, I'm giving it a 50% chance he is leaving as well.

I've seen this float out there by doofus Max Kellerman today of how Lebron should go to Spurs.

How do they make that happen? I don't see how without trading Lamarcus.

lol, please
01-24-2018, 06:25 PM
He wanted the Goodyear contract and I'm guessing was waiting for the TV deals to line up? I don't think those deals were finalized yet at the time. Still a good time to sell it but who would have predicted that the Warriors were going to actually get KD? Cavs may very well be the 2x NBA champions back-to-back as well.

No one huh?

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?890392-Potential-Dynasty-Durant-to-the-Dubs

What's the date on that bad boy. Double check someone for me, please.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:29 PM
No one huh?

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?890392-Potential-Dynasty-Durant-to-the-Dubs

What's the date on that bad boy. Double check someone for me, please.


Congrats you were right. :) :cheers:

I found this gem in there.


Love Durant, but would never want him on GS. That's a cowards mindset. Stack the deck? No thanks.

I like how the league is shaping up as is.

Vee-Rex
01-24-2018, 06:32 PM
Love Durant, but would never want him on GS. That's a cowards mindset. Stack the deck? No thanks.

I like how the league is shaping up as is.

:laugh:

:laugh:

:laugh:

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 06:33 PM
I've seen this float out there by doofus Max Kellerman today of how Lebron should go to Spurs.

How do they make that happen? I don't see how without trading Lamarcus.

Yeah, but how can they make the LeBron to Houston happen as well? It's easier trading LaMarcus than it is Ryan Andersen.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:34 PM
:laugh:

:laugh:

:laugh:

I'd make it my sig if I didn't love mine so much. :p

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 06:34 PM
Congrats you were right. :) :cheers:

I found this gem in there.

Lmfao, you just exposed Trolldigs. I wish you didn't expose him here and bait him into him saying he never said Durant is a coward.

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 06:34 PM
I'd make it my sig if I didn't love mine so much. :p

Permission to copy that sig? Hilarious!

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:39 PM
Yeah, but how can they make the LeBron to Houston happen as well? It's easier trading LaMarcus than it is Ryan Andersen.

The idea was the same with what cp3 did to get here.
Lebron opt in and then send over Gordon/Tucker or Anderson etc. (whatever it took to work)

I just didn't see the means for the Spurs to get him over there EVEN if he wanted to. Too many loaded contracts on their end.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:40 PM
Permission to copy that sig? Hilarious!

It's all yours. I found it via LOL post above.

Go easy on Tre. He's a good poster. Just defending "his guy" KD ;)

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 06:40 PM
I suggest you guys take a click at HTOWNBALLA's link provided above... Here is what lol, please said:

"Lebron refused to wait for Cleveland to build around him. It takes time. Durant getting picked up by an already complete contender in the warriors is not the same as lebron trying to build a super team in Cleveland or Dwight attempting similar in la. Miami was appealing before Bosh and LeBron got there? I don't remember that being the case at all to be honest."

Yet, he says LeBron did the same as KD did in these debates after KD did actually go to the Warriors...

lol, please
01-24-2018, 06:44 PM
Congrats you were right. :) :cheers:

I found this gem in there.

Poor tredigs lol.

Here are a few more gems from that thread:


LOLP started the rumor and is the only one talking about it. Sure it would be nice to have Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green ... but it's never ever ever going to happen :)


Durant is coming to Houston. :smoking:


Am I the only one who thinks Durant is wired like Duncan and would never leave ?

Look at these gems :laugh2:

WaDe03
01-24-2018, 06:44 PM
Lmfao!!!!!

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:47 PM
Poor tredigs lol.

Here are a few more gems from that thread:







Look at these gems :laugh2:

I saw that too. **** Dwight for ruining our season to where we couldn't even land a meeting with KD, otherwise I bet we'd have had a chance.

Oh well. I was right about Cp3. 50% ain't bad. Haha.

The true test will be this offseason since I've been calling Lebron to Houston since Lebron was born.

tredigs
01-24-2018, 06:53 PM
I thought he was the cruise ship guy? No?

He's the casino/real-estate horrible person mobster guy.

WaDe03
01-24-2018, 06:54 PM
Can someone expose my old posts?

tredigs
01-24-2018, 06:58 PM
It's all yours. I found it via LOL post above.

Go easy on Tre. He's a good poster. Just defending "his guy" KD ;)

Oh I said as recently as yesterday I never wanted KD on the Warriors. I wanted him on the Celtics to actually give LBJ some sort of real comp in the east. Never said it wasn't a weak decision to come to GS, either. I just fully understand why he did. It's basically the exact same pre/post comments I had for LBJ before the world freaked out over that one. "Definitely weak, but it's tough to blame him".

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 06:58 PM
Can someone expose my old posts?

I'll save this one for one your name becomes

"13eard Harden" in the year 2023 and he surpasses Wade in the all time sg list. :p

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 07:00 PM
Oh I said as recently as yesterday I never wanted KD on the Warriors. I wanted him on the Celtics to actually give LBJ some sort of real comp in the east. Never said it wasn't a weak decision to come to GS, either. I just fully understand why he did. It's basically the exact same pre/post comments I had for LBJ before the world freaked out over that one. "Definitely weak, but it's tough to blame him".

I believe you. I just find it interesting that you defend the ****ery he does in media now that he's on your squad.

WaDe03
01-24-2018, 07:01 PM
I'll save this one for one your name becomes

"13eard Harden" in the year 2023 and he surpasses Wade in the all time sg list. :p

Haha he will never surpass the GOAT!

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 07:04 PM
Haha he will never surpass the GOAT!

I agree he'll never pass Jordan/Lebron. ;)

lol, please
01-24-2018, 07:04 PM
Can someone expose my old posts?



lol you didn't post in there, but some other Heat fans did.

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?890392-Potential-Dynasty-Durant-to-the-Dubs/page5

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 07:06 PM
"I honestly think he's going to the Wizards. Unless we make some huge changes this season (MARC GASOL I AM LOOKING AT YOU), this is not going to be good for us."

Only thing I said in that thread was this. I was prepared for him to leave already. Kinda knew it was a foregone conclusion once I saw how we choked. Not many players can come back from a choke job like that and still feel like they can win. Probably one of the more remarkable point in LeBron's career. 2011-2012 must have been the most criticized season of a player after he lost. Literally couldn't defend LeBron for losing that. Dude comes out and ends up winning everything that season (Olympics, MVP, Finals MVP/ring.)

tredigs
01-24-2018, 07:08 PM
I believe you. I just find it interesting that you defend the ****ery he does in media now that he's on your squad.

Lol. Definitely won't find me defending his off court actions very often. As a Rox fan you're simply talking about the Capela thread. I don't mind the **** talk. Bear in mind, Capela opened that door. KD was just asked the question and gave his take on it. I like that banter, I don't care who it is. What is lame is the cryptic passive-aggressive **** talk you get from Lebron. Specifically as it's normally pointed at his own teammates. KD calling Clint out individually (responding to a direct question after hearing Capela's comments)? I get the irony (as I said in that thread... And like that it breeds more talk), but that's just good for the games overall.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 07:14 PM
Lol. Definitely won't find me defending his off court actions very often. As a Rox fan you're simply talking about the Capela thread. I don't mind the **** talk. Bear in mind, Capela opened that door. KD was just asked the question and gave his take on it. I like that banter, I don't care who it is.

Fair.

I wrote yesterday on my FB congrats to Lebron but nowadays I find him to be quite corny.

Love the player. Don't care for his personality. Usually happens between normal people like me vs Vain super athletes like them.

With that being said...

#LEBRON2HOUSTON

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 07:15 PM
lol you didn't post in there, but some other Heat fans did.

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?890392-Potential-Dynasty-Durant-to-the-Dubs/page5

Can you explain yourself! You said LeBron joining the Heat was not the same as KD joining the Warriors but you have been spewing otherwise since KD joined the Warriors.

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 07:17 PM
Fair.

I wrote yesterday on my FB congrats to Lebron but nowadays I find him to be quite corny.

Love the player. Don't care for his personality. Usually happens between normal people like me vs Vain super athletes like them.

With that being said...

#LEBRON2HOUSTON

Yeah, LeBron has been a total ****** this season more than ever. Also doesn't seem like he cares about winning as much for his legacy but only so he can continue making more money. He made a joke, "Why retire when I still have more shoes to sell." He said it jokingly but you can tell he's calculated like that. If money wasn't a problem, he probably would retire right now.

lol, please
01-24-2018, 07:23 PM
Can you explain yourself! You said LeBron joining the Heat was not the same as KD joining the Warriors but you have been spewing otherwise since KD joined the Warriors.

I explained why I feel it's different in that Capela thread already.

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 07:24 PM
Yeah, LeBron has been a total ****** this season more than ever. Also doesn't seem like he cares about winning as much for his legacy but only so he can continue making more money. He made a joke, "Why retire when I still have more shoes to sell." He said it jokingly but you can tell he's calculated like that. If money wasn't a problem, he probably would retire right now.

I didn't see that at all. Dang. Sucky quote.

Well if that's the case, he wants to own a team. I thought we'd get to potentially see him vs his son.

mightybosstone
01-24-2018, 07:28 PM
I explained why I feel it's different in that Capela thread already.
...and have yet to produce a quote to prove your point that he ever made the promise in the first place.

FlashBolt
01-24-2018, 07:33 PM
"So I'm hearing Dan Gilbert is entertaining the idea of selling the Cavaliers franchise. I know many people are probably thinking LeBron will probably try to purchase them but I think he would need to consult with the other Part-owners of the franchise, Curry, Klay, Dray, and KD."

can't lie, Warriors might as well be the owners of cleveland lmao

IndyRealist
01-24-2018, 08:28 PM
He is in top 10 http://fadeawayworld.com/2017/04/27/ranking-the-top-15-richest-nba-owners/

Forbes has his current net worth a 6.4B https://www.forbes.com/profile/daniel-gilbert/ of which 6-800M is Cavs. So Cavs are 10-15% of his net worth

Last year team was valued at 1.2B figure 1.3 floor this year.
I was confusing him with the Heat owner.

Cal827
01-24-2018, 09:11 PM
Someone's exposing past posts? I want to be next Htown :D

*waits for everyone here to find separate messages* :laugh2:

Htownballa1622
01-24-2018, 10:08 PM
Someone's exposing past posts? I want to be next Htown :D

*waits for everyone here to find separate messages* :laugh2:

:laugh2: haha. I don't remember any outlandish ones from u.

Saddletramp
01-24-2018, 10:15 PM
No one huh?

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?890392-Potential-Dynasty-Durant-to-the-Dubs

What's the date on that bad boy. Double check someone for me, please.

I went to that thread and it's more of you saying stupid ****, me calling you out and correcting you and you ignoring me because the **** you were saying was too stupid to defend.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Scoots
01-25-2018, 01:09 AM
Twist ending: Lebron buys the Cavs, promotes himself to VP of operations, general manager, coach and head of concessions. He then convinces the banana boat to get together this summer, and they win the next five championships before retiring.

(Seriously, though, the drama in Cleveland is becoming super entertaining. I have no clue how this all plays out.)

No way the Banana Boat wins without LeBron playing.

LOb0
01-25-2018, 01:32 AM
This is the best time to sell them. He should cash out now.

Scoots
01-25-2018, 01:32 AM
Congrats you were right. :) :cheers:

I found this gem in there.


Love Durant, but would never want him on GS. That's a cowards mindset. Stack the deck? No thanks.

I like how the league is shaping up as is.

Ouch. Haha. I hoped the Warriors would get a discount on some of their players and not go the KD and devastate the roster direction because I remembered how hard that was on the Heatles every year. Well ... it's happening with the Warriors too (Iguodala and Livingston are aging and soon to be over-paid, and West and Pachulia are just aging, and they are taking flyers on nut cases like McGee and Young) ... but it's working so far.

Scoots
01-25-2018, 01:37 AM
Lol. Definitely won't find me defending his off court actions very often. As a Rox fan you're simply talking about the Capela thread. I don't mind the **** talk. Bear in mind, Capela opened that door. KD was just asked the question and gave his take on it. I like that banter, I don't care who it is. What is lame is the cryptic passive-aggressive **** talk you get from Lebron. Specifically as it's normally pointed at his own teammates. KD calling Clint out individually (responding to a direct question after hearing Capela's comments)? I get the irony (as I said in that thread... And like that it breeds more talk), but that's just good for the games overall.

I love their games, but I think LeBron and CP3 are two of the most two faced superstars I can recall.

Vee-Rex
01-25-2018, 03:17 PM
Daryl Ruiter

@RuiterWrongFAN
#Cavs source with direct knowledge of the situation tells me “zero truth” to Stephen A Smith’s comments/speculation Dan Gilbert is or is trying to sell the team

Darren Rovell
@darrenrovell

NBA Team Sources: Dan Gilbert has not had any discussions to sell Cavs.

Two separate reports (one from Cavs sources and the other from NBA team sources/Rovell who works with ESPN) calling BS on Stephen A Smith's report.

Not sure who is lying or not, but there's the info.

Edit: I heard from cleveland sports radio that Gilbert answered a question from someone and said he'd sell if he got a really good offer, but that's how it is with any business. There's a price for everything in the business world.

Perhaps SAS took that and ran away with it?

mightybosstone
01-25-2018, 03:18 PM
Daryl Ruiter

@RuiterWrongFAN
#Cavs source with direct knowledge of the situation tells me “zero truth” to Stephen A Smith’s comments/speculation Dan Gilbert is or is trying to sell the team

Darren Rovell
@darrenrovell

NBA Team Sources: Dan Gilbert has not had any discussions to sell Cavs.

Two separate reports (one from Cavs sources and the other from NBA team sources/Rovell who works with ESPN) calling BS on Stephen A Smith's report.

Not sure who is lying or not, but there's the info.

As a Cavs fan, I'm curious for your thoughts. On one hand, Gilbert is crazy rich and more than willing to pay for a contender, so that's certainly a positive. On the other, he's done a horrible job running the organization over the years and has rubbed more than a few players the wrong way. If you found out today that Gilbert had sold the team, what would your reaction be?

Vee-Rex
01-25-2018, 03:24 PM
As a Cavs fan, I'm curious for your thoughts. On one hand, Gilbert is crazy rich and more than willing to pay for a contender, so that's certainly a positive. On the other, he's done a horrible job running the organization over the years and has rubbed more than a few players the wrong way. If you found out today that Gilbert had sold the team, what would your reaction be?

It's tough, but the only way I feel about it is:

If Gilbert selling means LeBron will stay, then I hope he sells. If it doesn't have any impact on LeBron's decision one way or another, then I hope he doesn't sell.

Gilbert is not a good owner, no, but I really like his passion, his money, and his willingness to spend that money (at least that is the case with LeBron on the team - maybe it'd change if LeBron left).

I know what it's like to be a fan of a sports team where the owner doesn't have any passion (Randy Lerner). Lerner only kept the Browns because it was his dad's dream to bring a winning team to Cleveland and it reflected in his poor front office decisions. I'd rather have Gilbert over a Lerner/non-caring type of owner.

Maybe a new owner would be better than Gilbert though, so who knows.

lol, please
01-25-2018, 03:31 PM
I went to that thread and it's more of you saying stupid ****, me calling you out and correcting you and you ignoring me because the **** you were saying was too stupid to defend.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.All that aside, one thing we can tell from that thread is i remain consistent in my takes, through YEARS. You don't have to agree with my takes or like me as a poster, but at least respect that consistency.

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Saddletramp
01-25-2018, 03:33 PM
Yeah but the only reason he's spending money is to appease Lebron after Lebron left the first time (when Gilbert cheaped out). I'd assume once Lebron leaves (if it's this year or in five years) Gilbert will get cheap again. He has a title and unless drafting goes well, I don't see that many free agents going there enough to be competitive.