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metswon69
01-16-2018, 12:45 AM
We keep hearing he's not injured but that his shot mechanics are not the same they were in college. At one point I heard he was shooting left handed it was so bad. So do you guys think its mental or perhaps was he graded too high after one year of college?

mrblisterdundee
01-16-2018, 01:23 AM
We keep hearing he's not injured but that his shot mechanics are not the same they were in college. At one point I heard he was shooting left handed it was so bad. So do you guys think its mental or perhaps was he graded too high after one year of college?

He's injured. They're trying to get his arm healthy and his shot mechanics fixed:

When asked whether Fultz must be 100 percent physically to return to the court, Brown gave a telling response.
ďWhat he needs Ö to be, is able to shoot a basketball,Ē Brown said. ďI donít know what percent we will apply to that comment.Ē
Brown said he has been pleased with Fultzís progress at the foul line, but the rest of his outside shooting apparently is a major work in progress.
ďHe needs to feel like he can go shoot a basketball, and I think to just render it that the foul shot is pretty good, and it is, and only go that far without talking about some of the other pieces,Ē Brown said. ďItís not what we are looking at, and I know he isnít looking at that.Ē
Fultz, who spoke briefly with reporters last week when the Sixers lost a 114-103 decision on Thursday to the Boston Celtics in London, has generally not been made available to the media, and likely wonít be until he is able to return to game action.
ē Marc Narducci, The Philadelphia Inquierer (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers-sixers-markelle-fultz-fixing-shot-20180114.html)

TheDish87
01-16-2018, 09:37 AM
hes not injured (this was never an injury), the imbalance has been corrected since about a week or so ago. This is bizarre and now annoying. Even Coach Brown seems frustrated with the whole thing, he said that his FT form looks fine now but he still cant take a jumper outside of 10 feet. He really needs to get his **** together bcuz we need him on the court.

Scoots
01-16-2018, 10:49 AM
So now he was never injured? So, what, it's all mental?

GREATNESS ONE
01-16-2018, 11:13 AM
So now he was never injured? So, what, it's all mental?

Lol

Giannis94
01-16-2018, 11:24 AM
So now he was never injured? So, what, it's all mental?

Heyyyyyy man, you saved me an infraction with your post!

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-16-2018, 11:31 AM
This has got to suck for 76ers fans. They get all excited draft time to move up and get a PG and now the kid isn't playing.

WaDe03
01-16-2018, 11:34 AM
He's not injured? Wtf?! He needs to retire he's washed.

warfelg
01-16-2018, 11:44 AM
So now he was never injured? So, what, it's all mental?

So another guy I know and I have a theory:
Markelle is known to love two things outside of basketball: BMX and Chic-fil-A.

So we got this three pronged theory - He's eaten a ton of Chic-fil-A, enough so that his nutrition was likely off, and that when he worked out he didn't get the proper recovery. We talked about how he either needs to cut it out of his diet, eat like the grilled nuggets with a fruit bowl and water, or make it a special treat he gets like 2 times a month and go to town on it.

Part 2 - He's never really had someone who knows what they are doing in the weight room work with him. It ties into part one. He's never had someone focus on his physical form, and it shows right away with the imbalance. He's going to need time in the weight room working on the form of his training along with the actual increased weights. He's still experiencing soreness so clearly there's still an issue there.

Part 3 - The biggie, the more guessing in this: He had an offseason accident while riding a BMX bike and there's a coverup going on. Why do we thing this? His refusal to pull that arm up that high isn't a sign of muscular imbalance to him (he's a physical therapist and works with people with that type of injury). He thinks this looks more like a bone bruise or possible partial rotator cuff tare. So our speculation was that he hurt himself riding BMX, it was covered up with the "changing shooting form", and now they are trying to see if he can play through something that really needs surgery by doing PT.

TheDish87
01-16-2018, 11:50 AM
So now he was never injured? So, what, it's all mental?

there was a muscle imbalance in his shoulder. i dont think thats really an injury though, at least not to me. At this point it seems to be mental since the imbalance is gone.

TheDish87
01-16-2018, 11:50 AM
So another guy I know and I have a theory:
Markelle is known to love two things outside of basketball: BMX and Chic-fil-A.

So we got this three pronged theory - He's eaten a ton of Chic-fil-A, enough so that his nutrition was likely off, and that when he worked out he didn't get the proper recovery. We talked about how he either needs to cut it out of his diet, eat like the grilled nuggets with a fruit bowl and water, or make it a special treat he gets like 2 times a month and go to town on it.

Part 2 - He's never really had someone who knows what they are doing in the weight room work with him. It ties into part one. He's never had someone focus on his physical form, and it shows right away with the imbalance. He's going to need time in the weight room working on the form of his training along with the actual increased weights. He's still experiencing soreness so clearly there's still an issue there.

Part 3 - The biggie, the more guessing in this: He had an offseason accident while riding a BMX bike and there's a coverup going on. Why do we thing this? His refusal to pull that arm up that high isn't a sign of muscular imbalance to him (he's a physical therapist and works with people with that type of injury). He thinks this looks more like a bone bruise or possible partial rotator cuff tare. So our speculation was that he hurt himself riding BMX, it was covered up with the "changing shooting form", and now they are trying to see if he can play through something that really needs surgery by doing PT.

youre thinking way too much

Giannis94
01-16-2018, 11:53 AM
So another guy I know and I have a theory:
Markelle is known to love two things outside of basketball: BMX and Chic-fil-A.

So we got this three pronged theory - He's eaten a ton of Chic-fil-A, enough so that his nutrition was likely off, and that when he worked out he didn't get the proper recovery. We talked about how he either needs to cut it out of his diet, eat like the grilled nuggets with a fruit bowl and water, or make it a special treat he gets like 2 times a month and go to town on it.

Part 2 - He's never really had someone who knows what they are doing in the weight room work with him. It ties into part one. He's never had someone focus on his physical form, and it shows right away with the imbalance. He's going to need time in the weight room working on the form of his training along with the actual increased weights. He's still experiencing soreness so clearly there's still an issue there.

Part 3 - The biggie, the more guessing in this: He had an offseason accident while riding a BMX bike and there's a coverup going on. Why do we thing this? His refusal to pull that arm up that high isn't a sign of muscular imbalance to him (he's a physical therapist and works with people with that type of injury). He thinks this looks more like a bone bruise or possible partial rotator cuff tare. So our speculation was that he hurt himself riding BMX, it was covered up with the "changing shooting form", and now they are trying to see if he can play through something that really needs surgery by doing PT.

To be fair to Fultz, if you don't love Chick-fil-a I will question you. Its borderline insanity not to love Chick Fil A

warfelg
01-16-2018, 12:04 PM
To be fair to Fultz, if you don't love Chick-fil-a I will question you. Its borderline insanity not to love Chick Fil A

I could take it or leave it.

Giannis94
01-16-2018, 12:05 PM
I could take it or leave it.

If I'm fultz and the 76ers are telling me not to eat Chick Fil A, I'd be like "I demand a trade mother****er." and leave it at that. See who budges first.

warfelg
01-16-2018, 12:16 PM
If I'm fultz and the 76ers are telling me not to eat Chick Fil A, I'd be like "I demand a trade mother****er." and leave it at that. See who budges first.

Sure because that's a reasonable response.

GREATNESS ONE
01-16-2018, 12:17 PM
Chic fil A ****ing sucks! Lol paying 16$ for a chicken sandwich :laugh2:

TheDish87
01-16-2018, 12:27 PM
im not a fan either but how the hell are you paying 16$ for 1 chic fil a sandwich? it's like 4$ here

warfelg
01-16-2018, 12:29 PM
im not a fan either but how the hell are you paying 16$ for 1 chic fil a sandwich? it's like 4$ here

It's about $6 where I'm at.

Giannis94
01-16-2018, 12:32 PM
im not a fan either but how the hell are you paying 16$ for 1 chic fil a sandwich? it's like 4$ here

He probably lives in San Fran or some diva-ish city. and Philly's not much better. Went to a phillies game two years ago and paid $13 bucks for a Yuengling tall boy.

SMFH.

GREATNESS ONE
01-16-2018, 12:36 PM
im not a fan either but how the hell are you paying 16$ for 1 chic fil a sandwich? it's like 4$ here

Hah idk! You get a chicken sandwich w/fruit and a drink, total 13-16$ lol

GREATNESS ONE
01-16-2018, 12:37 PM
He probably lives in San Fran or some diva-ish city. and Philly's not much better. Went to a phillies game two years ago and paid $13 bucks for a Yuengling tall boy.

SMFH.

Lol thatís completely different, youíre expected to pay more at stadiums!

WaDe03
01-16-2018, 12:50 PM
Chick fil a slander will not be tolerated, everyone has been reported!

Giannis94
01-16-2018, 02:10 PM
Chick fil a slander will not be tolerated, everyone has been reported!

I will make a campaign promise. For those that continue to support my effort to become the nexg super mod of PSD,Chick-Fil-A slander will be punishable by an immediate ban, no questions asked.

again, lets make PSD great again. We can do that by vming and pming your local mod to make Giannis94 the next supermod of PSD.

Scoots
01-16-2018, 02:26 PM
Chick fil a slander will not be tolerated, everyone has been reported!

I love Chick-fil-a ... they are not cheap because of a superior product and the others just don't have the discerning palates you and I have Wade :)

TheDish87
01-16-2018, 02:37 PM
Hah idk! You get a chicken sandwich w/fruit and a drink, total 13-16$ lol

must be those LA prices.

TheDish87
01-16-2018, 02:39 PM
He probably lives in San Fran or some diva-ish city. and Philly's not much better. Went to a phillies game two years ago and paid $13 bucks for a Yuengling tall boy.

SMFH.

Beer at any stadium is expensive and it should be as they dont need people pounding beers during the course of a 3 hour game especially baseball which is considered more of a family event. Wells Fargo is the best you can get 25oz domestics for 13

WaDe03
01-16-2018, 03:08 PM
I love Chick-fil-a ... they are not cheap because of a superior product and the others just don't have the discerning palates you and I have Wade :)

:laugh:

warfelg
01-16-2018, 03:37 PM
I love Chick-fil-a ... they are not cheap because of a superior product and the others just don't have the discerning palates you and I have Wade :)

Or some of us are quitting fast food ;)

Scoots
01-16-2018, 04:03 PM
Or some of us are quitting fast food ;)

Seriously though ... I had a really **** day a month ago, went through Chick-Fil-A drive through, they asked about my day, I told them it was mostly rough, but I made it back in time to see my daughter perform at her school ... they gave me my food for free to, as they said, improve my day. Loyal customer right here.

KingPosey
01-16-2018, 04:10 PM
Chic fil A ****ing sucks! Lol paying 16$ for a chicken sandwich :laugh2:

$16? what chick fila are you going to?

GREATNESS ONE
01-16-2018, 04:28 PM
Yaíll kept ****ing talking about it so went to Chic fil A with my son for lunch. Still not impressed! Lol actually rather disappointed.

jaydubb
01-16-2018, 04:38 PM
You guys need to go to roscoes. That's a real chicken place. :nod:

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jaydubb
01-16-2018, 04:42 PM
This is one of the weirdest things from a top pick that I've ever seen tbh.. I was super high on markelle fultz before the draft, now he looks like he's never shot a basketball in his life. Weird. I hope he figures it out but it's not looking good

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ewing
01-16-2018, 08:06 PM
So now he was never injured? So, what, it's all mental?

Everyone know basketball is 100% mental


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ewing
01-16-2018, 08:08 PM
Itís all part of the process


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WaDe03
01-16-2018, 10:47 PM
Seriously though ... I had a really **** day a month ago, went through Chick-Fil-A drive through, they asked about my day, I told them it was mostly rough, but I made it back in time to see my daughter perform at her school ... they gave me my food for free to, as they said, improve my day. Loyal customer right here.

Chick fil a service is undefeated for real.

WaDe03
01-16-2018, 10:48 PM
Everyone know basketball is 100% mental


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In b4 europeanpilgrim busts a load.

HandsOnTheWheel
01-16-2018, 11:07 PM
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bagwell368
01-16-2018, 11:10 PM
I don't know, I thought the C's were going to draft him, just glad we have Tatum. Good luck with the kid.

Vinny642
01-16-2018, 11:19 PM
They gave him that Andrew Luck treatment

GREATNESS ONE
01-16-2018, 11:46 PM
it's jus not smooth at all, there is no fluidity.. He's gon have to take the year off, maybe he can win ROY next year.

D-Leethal
01-16-2018, 11:58 PM
Maybe they should try hypnosis. It's comical at this point.

WaDe03
01-17-2018, 12:02 AM
Sam Hinkie didn't die for this.

Hustla23
01-17-2018, 12:08 AM
Feel bad for the kid and hope he can turn it around.

Really haven't seen anything like this before. Bizarre.

HandsOnTheWheel
01-17-2018, 12:16 AM
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Last one is old, but shooting left-handed? wtf?

TrueFan420
01-17-2018, 12:48 AM
You guys need to go to roscoes. That's a real chicken place. :nod:

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Truth

Giannis94
01-17-2018, 01:22 AM
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Last one is old, but shooting left-handed? wtf?

Didn't hasheem tabeet try shooting lefty? Maybe it was someone else. But. I remember someone recently thst tried this out of desperation

LOb0
01-17-2018, 01:49 AM
I remember I got destroyed for asking if anyone would still take Fultz #1 a month or so into the season.

Needless to say, hell no.

Giannis94
01-17-2018, 02:49 AM
I remember I got destroyed for asking if anyone would still take Fultz #1 a month or so into the season.

Needless to say, hell no.

And I got destroyed for posting a fultz vs ball thread. And the Philly mob came after me. Looks like Lonzo may have the last laugh

kobe4thewinbang
01-17-2018, 03:59 AM
Glad we took Ball. Dunno what's wrong with Fultz. Push comes to shove eventually though.

Lakers + Giants
01-17-2018, 04:43 AM
not saying this in a troll way at all. As a philly fan, you have to wonder wtf is going on. Something doesn't add up.

warfelg
01-17-2018, 09:03 AM
not saying this in a troll way at all. As a philly fan, you have to wonder wtf is going on. Something doesn't add up.

I think he's injured and the team just isn't saying it. Wouldn't be the first time under Colangelo that the team has lied about an injury.

TheDish87
01-17-2018, 09:33 AM
even with a messed up jumper id still take Fultz over Ball 100 time out of 100. but as annoying as this mess is lets not act like his career is over.

TheDish87
01-17-2018, 09:33 AM
I think he's injured and the team just isn't saying it. Wouldn't be the first time under Colangelo that the team has lied about an injury.

he wouldnt had been cleared for full contact drills and 5v5 if he was injured.

GodsSon
01-17-2018, 10:11 AM
A Bargnani-level draft blunder by BC once again; except this is worse because he gave up a 1st to select this kid.

Oh and Zaxby's >> Chick fil a

TheDish87
01-17-2018, 10:32 AM
lol his career is ovaaaaaaaaaaaaa at 19

warfelg
01-17-2018, 10:42 AM
he wouldnt had been cleared for full contact drills and 5v5 if he was injured.

Embiid played a game on a torn meniscus. I feel 100% in my right to question injury management with this team right now.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-17-2018, 11:27 AM
He must have a shoulder or elbow injury. His arm looks weak or something.

GREATNESS ONE
01-17-2018, 11:27 AM
even with a messed up jumper id still take Fultz over Ball 100 time out of 100. but as annoying as this mess is lets not act like his career is over.

:laugh2:

TheDish87
01-17-2018, 11:58 AM
Embiid played a game on a torn meniscus. I feel 100% in my right to question injury management with this team right now.

sure, BC is a shitbag but i still dont think even he could hide an injury this long. i believe its more mental and comfort then anything else now and sooner rather than later the kid is gonna have to man up and play.

Giannis94
01-17-2018, 12:18 PM
We should have seen this coming. It's a P-word thing.

Lil Rhody
01-17-2018, 12:25 PM
P***Y or P****y

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Giannis94
01-17-2018, 12:26 PM
Ph; not PU

Green_Monster
01-17-2018, 12:29 PM
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Holy ****!

Meth
01-19-2018, 04:08 AM
So another guy I know and I have a theory:
Markelle is known to love two things outside of basketball: BMX and Chic-fil-A.

Part 3 - The biggie, the more guessing in this: He had an offseason accident while riding a BMX bike and there's a coverup going on. Why do we thing this? His refusal to pull that arm up that high isn't a sign of muscular imbalance to him (he's a physical therapist and works with people with that type of injury). He thinks this looks more like a bone bruise or possible partial rotator cuff tare. So our speculation was that he hurt himself riding BMX, it was covered up with the "changing shooting form", and now they are trying to see if he can play through something that really needs surgery by doing PT.

This isn't far-fetched. I actually had this assumption a while back. Fultz was probably in breach of contract doing something he wasn't supposed to do (BMX riding), and actually hurt himself. For PR purposes and optics, Sixers brass probably don't want to disclose the details, which is probably why they went far-and-wide-and-out-of-their-way to keep quiet about this. Just look at all the stories and reports that have been released starting from the confusing report on Fultz's shoulder getting drained, to altering his shot, to finally shutting him down for weeks, and now all the mixed reports about his shooting mechanics (???). If it was a basketball related injury, i think Sixers would have already disclosed the injury already. I'm not buying the notion that he's not injured; no way does a player suddenly have to alter his shot unless he's hurt. He probably did something he wasnt supposed to be doing and got hurt from it, and now management wants to cover this up to avoid further scrutiny. I just wonder how long this will last. They need to shut him down for the rest of the season if anything

b-ballistic
01-19-2018, 06:18 AM
I remember I got destroyed for asking if anyone would still take Fultz #1 a month or so into the season.

Needless to say, hell no.

I, too, got slammed on here because i said Philly was stupid for making that trade (that was before the draft, though). Who else would trade UP for Fultz with so much talent on the board at three.

FlashBolt guy said i didn't know NBA talent........pssh....

R. Johnson#3
01-19-2018, 09:14 AM
This has got to be one of the strangest cases I've ever seen in the NBA.

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 09:49 AM
I, too, got slammed on here because i said Philly was stupid for making that trade (that was before the draft, though). Who else would trade UP for Fultz with so much talent on the board at three.

FlashBolt guy said i didn't know NBA talent........pssh....

this first season has no impact on anything. its not like hes a bust lol relax. you dont know talent if this is how you are trying to justify your position.

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 10:11 AM
this first season has no impact on anything. its not like hes a bust lol relax. you dont know talent if this is how you are trying to justify your position.

He's going to have to be damn near an all star and win a few mvps to justify the trade. Hate to say it, but I feel like this is just another instance the process got derailed.. And it's far from the first.

warfelg
01-19-2018, 10:18 AM
He's going to have to be damn near an all star and win a few mvps to justify the trade. Hate to say it, but I feel like this is just another instance the process got derailed.. And it's far from the first.

Why? Tatum hasn't won anything yet so it's not like he's set some unreal bar for Fultz.

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 10:34 AM
Why? Tatum hasn't won anything yet so it's not like he's set some unreal bar for Fultz.

Not yet. But you're ignorant if you can't acknowledge Tatum and his great start to the career thus far. And let's not forget that y'all also gave up an additional top 7 pick (barring a kings miracle next year) for him. So even if fultz becomes an all star, he's going to hsve to do special things go justify the tr.ade. I hsve no idea what the company are on Tatum but I think given the state of the Celtics, that they are fine with home becoming an all star, and don't neccessuneed him to be a superstar. Which is harder to say for Philly and fultz. I can explain. But I realize that your fanbase will result in trolling and/or reporting my posts.

warfelg
01-19-2018, 11:20 AM
He's had a great start yes, but we're also 41-45 games into their career. Way too soon to say how special he's going to have to be to justify it. To me it's justified if Fultz even tops out as a 3rd best option on a team it's very much worth it to us. Because he's the type of player we needed. Tatum long term is a 3/4, and we have a slew of guys who do that with RoCo, Simmons, Saric, and further down the line, Anderson and Holmes. A second ball handler/distributor/scorer is what was better for us.

So you combine guard need, and secondary ball handler for starting unit, Fultz was the choice. If we stayed at 3, most fans were looking at Fox/Smith/Ntilikina. Some liked Tatum but felt he wouldn't be the pick because of it.

If we took Tatum our roster distribution going into the season would have been:
McConnell/Bayless
JJ/TLC/Stauskis
RoCo/Tatum/Anderson/Korkmaz
Simmons/Saric/Holmes
Embiid/Johnson/Okafor

That would have been such a cluster of a roster with 2 players with starting potential having to come off the bench and we would have been roasted for that.

We were taking a guard no matter what. I will always be in favor of what we did, whether it works or not.

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 11:59 AM
the lineup wouldnt look like that with Tatum. He would start at the 4 instead of Dario

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 12:23 PM
I woulda took Lonzo. He would look so good with Simmons & Embiid.

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 12:55 PM
no he wouldnt. thats a terrible idea in fact. Lonzo cant spread the floor to save his life and his a extra poor mans version of Simmons. Dennis Smith and Tatum were who id want if he didnt get Fultz. I still want Fultz, though. Even when his shoulder was messed up he still showed he can play in the half court and get to the rim pretty easily.

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 01:02 PM
no he wouldnt. thats a terrible idea in fact. Lonzo cant spread the floor to save his life and his a extra poor mans version of Simmons. Dennis Smith and Tatum were who id want if he didnt get Fultz. I still want Fultz, though. Even when his shoulder was messed up he still showed he can play in the half court and get to the rim pretty easily.

He would be a great fit. You just don't want Lavar stealing all of Embi's off-court attention

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 01:19 PM
no

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 01:59 PM
no he wouldnt. thats a terrible idea in fact. Lonzo cant spread the floor to save his life and his a extra poor mans version of Simmons. Dennis Smith and Tatum were who id want if he didnt get Fultz. I still want Fultz, though. Even when his shoulder was messed up he still showed he can play in the half court and get to the rim pretty easily.

Lol cant spread the floor to save his life? Youíve obviously watched plenty of Lakers game s this year.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 02:01 PM
He would be a great fit. You just don't want Lavar stealing all of Embi's off-court attention

He really would, I was watching the 6ers Celtics game and watching Simmons/Embiid thinking damn... so glad they took Fultz because ZO/Simmons/Embiid is a lot of easy baskets.

Dish, is just digging his heels in because he was so adamant Lonzo would be a bust. Lol kinda hilarious tbh.

warfelg
01-19-2018, 02:02 PM
Lol cant spread the floor to save his life? Youíve obviously watched plenty of Lakers game s this year.

30% 3pt shooter. Exactly what TLC gives us.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 02:07 PM
30% 3pt shooter. Exactly what TLC gives us.

Lolz! Yea, totally right. That pretty much locks it up, ZO should stop shooting. If weíre quick to judge his shooting 20 something games into his career, you can easily point out th second half 20games as heís shooting over 41% and about 37% from 3. Not to mention 7rebounds, 7assist, and very very good defense for a 20y 1.7steals and 1blk a game. Not to mention another ball handler, who is unselfish, wouldnít mind playing off the ball and playing team basketball.


Lonzo would have made the 6ers much better but carry on, I know how much all/most of you guys (6er fans) called him a bust and still probably hope he does. Ironic that it looks like you guys drafted the ....

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 02:45 PM
He really would, I was watching the 6ers Celtics game and watching Simmons/Embiid thinking damn... so glad they took Fultz because ZO/Simmons/Embiid is a lot of easy baskets.

Dish, is just digging his heels in because he was so adamant Lonzo would be a bust. Lol kinda hilarious tbh.

i never once said Lonzo would be a bust, please show me where i ever said that. you are clueless if you think his skillset fits next to Simmons, not even a little bit. Lonzo was never as good as the hype, never a top 5 talent in this class. He is a starter in this league, probably. Might pull off an all star game or 2 if he can figure some things out, but thats about it.

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 02:46 PM
Lolz! Yea, totally right. That pretty much locks it up, ZO should stop shooting. If weíre quick to judge his shooting 20 something games into his career, you can easily point out th second half 20games as heís shooting over 41% and about 37% from 3. Not to mention 7rebounds, 7assist, and very very good defense for a 20y 1.7steals and 1blk a game. Not to mention another ball handler, who is unselfish, wouldnít mind playing off the ball and playing team basketball.


Lonzo would have made the 6ers much better but carry on, I know how much all/most of you guys (6er fans) called him a bust and still probably hope he does. Ironic that it looks like you guys drafted the ....

you can run off all the excsues you want but does Ball shooting 30% from deep help space the floor for the Sixers? lol no it doesnt.

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 03:11 PM
no
Yes

WaDe03
01-19-2018, 03:19 PM
Should trade him for Kemba.

tp13baby
01-19-2018, 03:32 PM
he wouldnt had been cleared for full contact drills and 5v5 if he was injured.

He can definitely be cleared to practice. Everyone has muscle imbalances. For instance a huge reason athletes pull a hammy is the quad and hammy extert huge differences in force. It sounds crazy but when I worked as a strength coach for all athletes itís amazing to see the imbalance of their glutes, which tend to force knees inward and heighten risk for acl injuries. Even from elite athletes. You can see it daily by meat heads that have their chest puffed out.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 03:51 PM
i never once said Lonzo would be a bust, please show me where i ever said that. you are clueless if you think his skillset fits next to Simmons, not even a little bit. Lonzo was never as good as the hype, never a top 5 talent in this class. He is a starter in this league, probably. Might pull off an all star game or 2 if he can figure some things out, but thats about it.

Lol right.

warfelg
01-19-2018, 03:53 PM
He can definitely be cleared to practice. Everyone has muscle imbalances. For instance a huge reason athletes pull a hammy is the quad and hammy extert huge differences in force. It sounds crazy but when I worked as a strength coach for all athletes itís amazing to see the imbalance of their glutes, which tend to force knees inward and heighten risk for acl injuries. Even from elite athletes. You can see it daily by meat heads that have their chest puffed out.

Left calf being a full in bigger than the right is a bad thing right? Haha.

I just know from the coaching end of athletics that people play/practice injured all the time even if they arenít cleared to play. Even though itís contact, the energy and contact of practice is no where near as intense as a game.

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 03:58 PM
Lol right.

so please prove i said hes a bust. ill wait. i see you backtracking doe its ok. you were wrong, just man up and accept it and we can move on.

KB24PG16
01-19-2018, 04:04 PM
"he's scared to shoot" -mtm

funny how that works

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 04:07 PM
I'm just happy I didn't create this thread. I would have definitely got a Philly minutes restriction.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 04:11 PM
so please prove i said hes a bust. ill wait. i see you backtracking doe its ok. you were wrong, just man up and accept it and we can move on.

What in the world are you talking about? Lol youíve been the same stance since the beginning, even trolling us in our forum. Iíll patiently wait because Lonzo is going to prove all the doubters and naysayers wrong. Move along now lil buddy.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 04:13 PM
I'm just happy I didn't create this thread. I would have definitely got a Philly minutes restriction.

On the real, as annoying as some of these 6ers fans can be, I really donít hope Fultz becomes a bust. Would be nice to see a young trio in the East that can compete against Boston.


Real side question tho, what would you do if Giannis left Mil? Donít be like Wade03 and bandwagon lol

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 04:18 PM
On the real, as annoying as some of these 6ers fans can be, I really donít hope Fultz becomes a bust. Would be nice to see a young trio in the East that can compete against Boston.


Real side question tho, what would you do if Giannis left Mil? Donít be like Wade03 and bandwagon lol

I wouldn't bandwagon. I wouldn't watch the NBA. I had 4-8 free Bucks season tickets (through my dad's work) in the awful years before Giannis (so from the time they got ****ed by Donaghy and then ****ed up the ray Allen trade) until the like 2010? When no one was going to go despite free tickets. And you know what? It's not just Milwaukee.

So if Giannis left, I would take my money and never buy a single Bucks ticket again. Because they front office, ownership, and Jkidd royally ****ed it up. I would go to other recreational events. I personally think the NBA is a shame, rigged, and doesn't care about the average fan in a small market.

And you know what? Philly fans will be in a similar situation if embi continues his track record of not staying healthy. Simmons will get tired of it. And ****en bolt probably to GSW

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 04:25 PM
What in the world are you talking about? Lol youíve been the same stance since the beginning, even trolling us in our forum. Iíll patiently wait because Lonzo is going to prove all the doubters and naysayers wrong. Move along now lil buddy.

ive never came into your forum to talk about BAll. i jsut told you my thoughts on him, there was no trolling. we said he cant stretch the floor and you rambled off a bunch of nonsense even though hes a 30% shooter thus a poor fit next to Simmons. you said i called Ball a bust and when i called you i got 'lol right' bcuz you realized you were wrong. its ok though.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 04:28 PM
I wouldn't bandwagon. I wouldn't watch the NBA. I had 4-8 free Bucks season tickets (through my dad's work) in the awful years before Giannis (so from the time they got ****ed by Donaghy and then ****ed up the ray Allen trade) until the like 2010? When no one was going to go despite free tickets. And you know what? It's not just Milwaukee.

So if Giannis left, I would take my money and never buy a single Bucks ticket again. Because they front office, ownership, and Jkidd royally ****ed it up. I would go to other recreational events. I personally think the NBA is a shame, rigged, and doesn't care about the average fan in a small market.

And you know what? Philly fans will be in a similar situation if embi continues his track record of not staying healthy. Simmons will get tired of it. And ****en bolt probably to GSW

Good ****, loyalty is everything. Iím 35y old been watching Raiders/Lakers Dodgers since the early 90ís. Since 1998, I have watched every single Lakers/Raiders game. Every single one. Die hard loyalty is what itís all about, especially when theyíre losing, it shows who the real fans are.

GREATNESS ONE
01-19-2018, 04:28 PM
ive never came into your forum to talk about BAll. i jsut told you my thoughts on him, there was no trolling. we said he cant stretch the floor and you rambled off a bunch of nonsense even though hes a 30% shooter thus a poor fit next to Simmons. you said i called Ball a bust and when i called you i got 'lol right' bcuz you realized you were wrong. its ok though.

Lol :facepalm:

TheDish87
01-19-2018, 04:33 PM
ok so hes a good shooter now?

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 04:36 PM
Good ****, loyalty is everything. Iím 35y old been watching Raiders/Lakers Dodgers since the early 90ís. Since 1998, I have watched every single Lakers/Raiders game. Every single one. Die hard loyalty is what itís all about, especially when theyíre losing, it shows who the real fans are.
It's like getting cheated on by an ex. You don't give her another chance. You don't pursue her otherwise you'll get weird feelings. So I guess I just indirectly called Dwade and other fans like that something along the lines of "slutty fans". But I wouldn't be one of those.

rhymeratic
01-19-2018, 05:36 PM
If I were the Sixers, I'd trade him for Kemba Walker and be done with it.

WaDe03
01-19-2018, 05:48 PM
Good ****, loyalty is everything. Iím 35y old been watching Raiders/Lakers Dodgers since the early 90ís. Since 1998, I have watched every single Lakers/Raiders game. Every single one. Die hard loyalty is what itís all about, especially when theyíre losing, it shows who the real fans are.

The teams aren't loyal to the players though.

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 05:56 PM
I wonder if Boston would do a trade back.

hugepatsfan
01-19-2018, 06:09 PM
I wonder if Boston would do a trade back.

Can't imagine they'd even consider it. If they liked Tatum better pre-draft as the talks were, I doubt Tatum's strong performance with Fultz' disastrous shooting form change would have them changing their mind. And that's not even to mention the extra pick.

Giannis94
01-19-2018, 06:34 PM
Can't imagine they'd even consider it. If they liked Tatum better pre-draft as the talks were, I doubt Tatum's strong performance with Fultz' disastrous shooting form change would have them changing their mind. And that's not even to mention the extra pick.

But Fultz hasn't played yet. How dare ye challenge thy process

b-ballistic
01-19-2018, 07:30 PM
this first season has no impact on anything. its not like hes a bust lol relax. you dont know talent if this is how you are trying to justify your position.

The point is, the Sixers didn't need to make the trade. There were players just as good as, and probably better than, Fultz in this draft class. Not only that, but it was clear the C's didn;t want Fultz and the Lakers were locked in on Ball. Just add this one to another stupid move by the Sixers and another smart move by Ainge and the C's.

Never said he was a bust, genius

FlashBolt
01-20-2018, 05:20 AM
What kind of idiot has an NBA contract and does BMX? Man, I would be scared to even get in a plane and risk all that money. Granted, it is guaranteed for many players but the amount you could make in the future is enough to last numerous generations.

More-Than-Most
01-20-2018, 06:25 AM
I wonder if Boston would do a trade back.

i would only for the pick and tatum... if i had a choice between tatum and fultz right now i am still taking fultz... the pick was a tad bit to much but its whatever at this point... he is clearly a bust like simmons was suppose to be right?

Eg714
01-20-2018, 07:16 AM
i would only for the pick and tatum... if i had a choice between tatum and fultz right now i am still taking fultz... the pick was a tad bit to much but its whatever at this point... he is clearly a bust like simmons was suppose to be right?

Heís looking like a big ole bust for sure. But I like the kid and hope heís not but he makes ball look like curry right now.

warfelg
01-20-2018, 08:59 AM
What kind of idiot has an NBA contract and does BMX? Man, I would be scared to even get in a plane and risk all that money. Granted, it is guaranteed for many players but the amount you could make in the future is enough to last numerous generations.

Ok Royce White. Good luck getting to away games.

Giannis94
01-20-2018, 01:54 PM
i would only for the pick and tatum... if i had a choice between tatum and fultz right now i am still taking fultz... the pick was a tad bit to much but its whatever at this point... he is clearly a bust like simmons was suppose to be right?

I mean Fultz's jumper is far more concerning than Simmons. I never called Simmons a bust. I called ya boy one. And that's still up in the air..

HandsOnTheWheel
01-20-2018, 03:13 PM
https://streamable.com/moafq

Kid's got a new shot everyday

Lil Rhody
01-20-2018, 03:47 PM
Yo Ainge is the worst gm ever.......

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

CityofTreez
01-20-2018, 03:56 PM
Fultz enjoys Chic-Fil-A and BMX?
Fox enjoys video games
Ball enjoys free styling
And Tatum enjoys winning games.

Man, what a rookie year

Giannis94
01-20-2018, 04:08 PM
Yo Ainge is the worst gm ever.......

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Said like a true Philly fan

Giannis94
01-20-2018, 04:12 PM
According to reports online Tatum is dating two girls at one time. So Joel got his fee minutes of fame by rejecting riri and now just got one upped by a rookie.

CityofTreez
01-20-2018, 04:48 PM
Joel is great for downplaying RiRi, heís a beast at trolling

Legitimate
01-22-2018, 09:58 PM
I think Philly management is happy with the situation however, its all just a ploy to tank another season draft another lottery then trade it for 2nd round pick and scrubs just to keep the momentum going somemore so they can keep the tank going. its like philly has been tanking for like 10 years in a row now, the last time they made the playoffs was with vc and jason kidd? lol

warfelg
01-22-2018, 10:28 PM
I think Philly management is happy with the situation however, its all just a ploy to tank another season draft another lottery then trade it for 2nd round pick and scrubs just to keep the momentum going somemore so they can keep the tank going. its like philly has been tanking for like 10 years in a row now, the last time they made the playoffs was with vc and jason kidd? lol

8th seed in the east with the hardest SRS so far....nice try though.

Philly has never had VC and Kidd....nice try though.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-23-2018, 10:13 AM
What was the pick 76ers packaged to move up? Was it the Lakers pick? 76ers should of passed on that trade. Kept both picks and drafted Tatum them selves.

urban85disciple
01-23-2018, 10:39 AM
What was the pick 76ers packaged to move up? Was it the Lakers pick? 76ers should of passed on that trade. Kept both picks and drafted Tatum them selves.

This would've been the smartest move but not the boldest. I would've stayed at 3 and drafted whoever was available but I can't fault the Sixers for taking a swing. They also made a pretty decent trade packaging the Lakers pick (protected 1, 6-30) considering that pick may never convey anyway.

In hindsight, Tatum would provide a lot of what the Sixers need right now.

warfelg
01-23-2018, 10:41 AM
What was the pick 76ers packaged to move up? Was it the Lakers pick? 76ers should of passed on that trade. Kept both picks and drafted Tatum them selves.

Lakers pick if itís between 2-5 this year, higher of the Philly/Sac pick next year unless itís the #1 pick.

So there is a theoretical chance that Boston gets 3 and a 20ís pick.

Theyíll never get a #1 pick out of it. Most Sixer fans are rooting for the Lakers to finish 5th in the standings. Means a much higher chance at 1 or 6.

A lot of us are happy because we know we paid far less than the reported asking price initially (#3, LAL unprotected, and Saric), we got protections, and we got our choice of our guy. And if you believe the reports, it was Fultz or bust for us. What we also did, because I also see people say ďwell he would have fell to 3 anywaysĒ, was ensure no one jumped to 2 with the Lakers and take Fultz. Because Iím fairly certain that the Suns and Kings were doing what they could to line up something for #2 if Fultz didnít go 1.

HandsOnTheWheel
01-24-2018, 07:55 PM
956284647713001473

warfelg
01-24-2018, 08:09 PM
956284647713001473

HIs lower and upper body aren't in synch.

beasted86
01-24-2018, 09:04 PM
I think he's going to be a bust.

I don't feel that's a knee jerk reaction. His shot is completely broken. Totally broken. Whatever muscle imbalance it is, its severe.

metswon69
01-25-2018, 12:32 AM
I've never seen a guy's shooting mechanics have this much change in less than a calendar year. If he's not hurt and it doesn't seem like he is, this could be a huge problem for the 76ers if he can't find his shot.

KB24PG16
01-25-2018, 12:38 AM
956284647713001473

:laugh2:

Lakers + Giants
01-25-2018, 01:01 AM
Karma for all the **** we heard about Lonzo for the last 7 months from you know who.

Especially since most of that was about his shot.

More-Than-Most
01-25-2018, 02:02 AM
Karma for all the **** we heard about Lonzo for the last 7 months from you know who.

Especially since most of that was about his shot.

:shrug:

I still like fultz by a mile over ball... Liked him before we even had the number 1 pick and stated he was the number 1 pick... I also loved JJ... In fact my first 2 picks right now would be Fultz/Tatum... I would still choose ball 4th behind fultz/tatum and others. Lonzo has had a good bit of the early season to shoot 29 percent or whatever from 3 etc... fultz deserves the same chance no? He could very easily bust... I hated how everybody was suppose top cant miss guys in the top 10... fultz/lonzo could bust and a guy like DSJ could end up the best player from this draft.

GREATNESS ONE
01-25-2018, 03:04 AM
:laugh:

GREATNESS ONE
01-25-2018, 03:04 AM
Kuzzzzzzzzzzzzmaaaaaaaaa!!!!

KUZMANIA is Alive!

More-Than-Most
01-25-2018, 03:47 AM
Kuzzzzzzzzzzzzmaaaaaaaaa!!!!

KUZMANIA is Alive!

I guess he finally had a good game after doing nothing for 3 weeks or so? : )

More-Than-Most
01-25-2018, 03:57 AM
Lol I cant even talk **** about kuzma... he is a beast... i retract my above shot. Dude is gonna be so good.

Lakers + Giants
01-25-2018, 04:08 AM
I guess he finally had a good game after doing nothing for 3 weeks or so? : )

Against the knicks, game before celtics: 6-8 FG, 15 pts in 10 min.

@ Mem 6-16 FG still 18 pts, 7 rbs, 5 ast

@ Dal 8-13FG 18 pts 10rbs 3 ast

Vs Atl 6-12 FG 14 pts 6rbs 3ast

Vs Okc 7-14 FG 18 pts

That's out of 11 games the last 3 weeks. Inconsistent? Yes. But saying that's his first good game in 3 weeks? Laughable.

He's basically alternating good game/bad game.

Lakers + Giants
01-25-2018, 04:18 AM
:shrug:

I still like fultz by a mile over ball... Liked him before we even had the number 1 pick and stated he was the number 1 pick... I also loved JJ... In fact my first 2 picks right now would be Fultz/Tatum... I would still choose ball 4th behind fultz/tatum and others. Lonzo has had a good bit of the early season to shoot 29 percent or whatever from 3 etc... fultz deserves the same chance no? He could very easily bust... I hated how everybody was suppose top cant miss guys in the top 10... fultz/lonzo could bust and a guy like DSJ could end up the best player from this draft.

I wanted Fultz 1st Ball 2nd. Nobody else really, 3rd i wanted JJ.

Still though, it has to be concerning seeing fultz like this. IMO someone is hiding something.

Fultz isn't a lock to be the player he looked to be anymore, at least not until I see a normal shot. Kid looks like he forgot how to shoot completely, looks worse than Lonzo's shot right now. IDK how.

Lonzo was improving and increasing his %s before he went out. Sure it's still low but that shows how garbage his %s was before considering they increased :laugh2:

Fortunately the shot started falling and he was shooting at around 40% from three at a high volume (i dont remember specifically but was like 6-7 threes per game). I can't be mad at all. As long as he busts an Ingram i'll be happy, improve steadily every month. I always said it, and you're a witness to it, I'd rather have Lonzo go 2-20 than go 0-5 being scared to shoot. He's not going to improve it by shying away from shooting, if you're gonna try to improve **** it, shoot the **** out of it.

More-Than-Most
01-25-2018, 04:30 AM
Against the knicks, game before celtics: 6-8 FG, 15 pts in 10 min.

@ Mem 6-16 FG still 18 pts, 7 rbs, 5 ast

@ Dal 8-13FG 18 pts 10rbs 3 ast

Vs Atl 6-12 FG 14 pts 6rbs 3ast

Vs Okc 7-14 FG 18 pts

That's out of 11 games the last 3 weeks. Inconsistent? Yes. But saying that's his first good game in 3 weeks? Laughable.

He's basically alternating good game/bad game.

lol see my last post... I give ball **** because I think he is terrible but Kuzma is legit sick

Lakers + Giants
01-25-2018, 04:32 AM
lol see my last post... I give ball **** because I think he is terrible but Kuzma is legit sick

Forgiven:love:

More-Than-Most
01-25-2018, 04:33 AM
I wanted Fultz 1st Ball 2nd. Nobody else really, 3rd i wanted JJ.

Still though, it has to be concerning seeing fultz like this. IMO someone is hiding something.

Fultz isn't a lock to be the player he looked to be anymore, at least not until I see a normal shot. Kid looks like he forgot how to shoot completely, looks worse than Lonzo's shot right now. IDK how.

Lonzo was improving and increasing his %s before he went out. Sure it's still low but that shows how garbage his %s was before considering they increased :laugh2:

Fortunately the shot started falling and he was shooting at around 40% from three at a high volume (i dont remember specifically but was like 6-7 threes per game). I can't be mad at all. As long as he busts an Ingram i'll be happy, improve steadily every month. I always said it, and you're a witness to it, I'd rather have Lonzo go 2-20 than go 0-5 being scared to shoot. He's not going to improve it by shying away from shooting, if you're gonna try to improve **** it, shoot the **** out of it.

Oh its 100 percent concerning and insane to me... I think its fixable but it hurts because of the pick we gave to boston... I wouldnt be concerned if we just chose him straight up but yea this is ******** that this is happening and for whatever reason some of our fanbase is trying to just brush it off... Its just flat out insane that his shot changed that much.

As far as who I wanted... I wanted Fultz/jj/fox/ball/DSJ/Tatum in this order.

Lakers + Giants
01-25-2018, 04:41 AM
Oh its 100 percent concerning and insane to me... I think its fixable but it hurts because of the pick we gave to boston... I wouldnt be concerned if we just chose him straight up but yea this is ******** that this is happening and for whatever reason some of our fanbase is trying to just brush it off... Its just flat out insane that his shot changed that much.

As far as who I wanted... I wanted Fultz/jj/fox/ball/DSJ/Tatum in this order.

Yup, something's wrong and something's up. IMO the front office or Fultz are hiding something. Just my opinion though, i have no backing, just legit gut feeling.

I stated all along I wanted Lonzo to bust with us instead of beasting with someone else.

The ONLY regret i still have is how our FO gave up on DLO. I know not all laker fans liked him but i thought we gave up on him too early. IF reports are true that he didn't take **** serious then **** it, he's gone for a reason. I can also stomach it cuz we got KUZ! If there was a way for us to have Lonzo-Dlo-Ingram-Kuz then that wouldve been sick. I know we wouldve still had the 28th pick which we traded, but not a guarantee we get Kuzma there. So the way I see it Dlo for Kuz and getting rid of Mozgov was worth it. I still do think about what could've been tho.

smith&wesson
01-25-2018, 08:40 AM
All I know is that Ainge looks like a genius ..

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-25-2018, 09:50 AM
All I know is that Ainge looks like a genius ..

That draft trade and the Irving trade.

HandsOnTheWheel
01-26-2018, 04:06 PM
https://streamable.com/t94cy

Maybe he should start shooting like this..

GREATNESS ONE
02-09-2018, 01:20 PM
Fultz our for the year...

Giannis94
02-09-2018, 01:35 PM
Ainge, you dirty dog.

Lakers + Giants
02-09-2018, 01:36 PM
I'm glad he played this year to prevent him from being ROY after gaining NBA experience.

warfelg
02-09-2018, 01:36 PM
Fultz our for the year...

Thatís not what was said. He said it could be tomorrow it could be all season. No way to know.

Westbrook36
02-09-2018, 01:41 PM
Fultz hasn't been ruled out 100% for the season

To me this doesn't make Ainge a 'God' or 'Dirty Dog'..It's a unique situation with an injury that seems to be extremely odd while being provided with little context. I would make that trade pre-injury 10/10, ya'll act like Ainge knew about the injury.

People point to 30 second shooting videos and act like it's the end of the world. It's obvious that something physically is limiting him and we should wait to see him in proper action before we write him off as a bust.

Since we love those 30 second videos:
https://twitter.com/jcameratonbcs/status/960913349683896320

Still pushing the ball a bit, but his shot seems to be coming around. Now it's extending range and continue to push through the imbalance.

Giannis94
02-09-2018, 01:56 PM
I'm glad he played this year to prevent him from being ROY after gaining NBA experience.

lolol

Forever35
02-09-2018, 01:56 PM
Fultz hasn't been ruled out 100% for the season

To me this doesn't make Ainge a 'God' or 'Dirty Dog'..It's a unique situation with an injury that seems to be extremely odd while being provided with little context. I would make that trade pre-injury 10/10, ya'll act like Ainge knew about the injury.



DA knew something, whether it was his shoulder, his confidence or something else... DA deserves a little credit...

Chronz
02-09-2018, 02:15 PM
Fultz hasn't been ruled out 100% for the season

To me this doesn't make Ainge a 'God' or 'Dirty Dog'..It's a unique situation with an injury that seems to be extremely odd while being provided with little context. I would make that trade pre-injury 10/10, ya'll act like Ainge knew about the injury.

People point to 30 second shooting videos and act like it's the end of the world. It's obvious that something physically is limiting him and we should wait to see him in proper action before we write him off as a bust.

Since we love those 30 second videos:
https://twitter.com/jcameratonbcs/status/960913349683896320

Still pushing the ball a bit, but his shot seems to be coming around. Now it's extending range and continue to push through the imbalance.
Dude, those were bunnies. Extend his range? Like to the elbows?

metswon69
02-09-2018, 04:47 PM
Am sure the Sixers want no part of putting that shot on tv every night. Its a much safer precaution to have him miss the year, fix his shot, and have him be more productive next season.

warfelg
02-09-2018, 05:02 PM
Am sure the Sixers want no part of putting that shot on tv every night. Its a much safer precaution to have him miss the year, fix his shot, and have him be more productive next season.

JJ Reddick went off in a video to the media.

TrustJoseph
02-09-2018, 10:45 PM
Fultz is definitely playing this year. After the ASB hell be ready.

Celticsfan2007
02-09-2018, 11:53 PM
This situation is soooooo ****ing odd