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HandsOnTheWheel
01-09-2018, 08:17 PM
Taking into account best all-time teams (or perhaps not), which teams represents the best all-time team with each player in their prime at the same time. What is the best team you can think of?

FIrst teams that come to mind are '04 Lakers with Shaq/Kobe/Malone/GP; '05 Heat Wade/Shaq/WC/GP/Mourning, etc.; 70's Lakers with Wilt, West, Baylor; Showtime Lakers- Magic/Worthy/Kareem; 2017 Dubs- KD/Steph/Klay/Draymond. 1996 Bulls- Jordan/Pippen/Rodman/Parrish, etc.; many, many more

Which is the best team, if all players on a team at one point were in their prime, that you can come up with?

hugepatsfan
01-09-2018, 08:27 PM
Rajon Rondo / Delonte West
Ray Allen / Avery Bradley
Paul Pierce / Jeff Green
Kevin Garnett / Glenn Davis
Shaquille O'Neil / Jermaine O'Neil

I think the 2010-11 Celtics gotta be up there

Raps18-19 Champ
01-09-2018, 09:37 PM
Raptors

C- Hakeem Olajuwon, Marcus Camby
PF- Chris Bosh, Jermaine O'Neal, Charles Oakley
SF- Tracy McGrady, Shawn Marion, Peja Stojaković
SG- Vince Carter, Demar Derozan
PG- Chauncey Billups, Kyle Lowry

Shammyguy3
01-09-2018, 10:23 PM
The Warriors:

Curry
Barry
Durant
Green
Wilt

JAZZNC
01-09-2018, 10:27 PM
I think it's pretty easily that Lakers team. First ballot HOF guys at 4 positions with excellent D and all the scoring you could handle. Malone was a good enough shooter to space things for Shaq and both of the big men were excellent passers.

mrblisterdundee
01-10-2018, 12:43 PM
Taking into account best all-time teams (or perhaps not), which teams represents the best all-time team with each player in their prime at the same time. What is the best team you can think of?

FIrst teams that come to mind are '04 Lakers with Shaq/Kobe/Malone/GP; '05 Heat Wade/Shaq/WC/GP/Mourning, etc.; 70's Lakers with Wilt, West, Baylor; Showtime Lakers- Magic/Worthy/Kareem; 2017 Dubs- KD/Steph/Klay/Draymond. 1996 Bulls- Jordan/Pippen/Rodman/Parrish, etc.; many, many more

Which is the best team, if all players on a team at one point were in their prime, that you can come up with?

Considering basketball is a team game that depends on cohesion, it's still the Warriors. You get Iguodala and West in their primes, Livingston before the knee injury and the all-NBA defense of Draymond, along with the unrivaled shooting of Curry, Thompson and Durant. No random assortment of all-stars from the hero ball era is beating that.
I do, however, like my 2000-01 All-Prime Blazers (even though that idiot Bob Whitsitt traded Jermaine):
• PG: Strickland, Stoudemire, Grant
• SG: Smith, Wells
• SF: Pippen, Schrempf
• PF: Wallace, Kemp
• C: Sabonis, Dale Davis, Purdue
They've got a lot of big men, so some talented guys have to come off the bench. I could go either way on Wallace or Kemp starting. But imagine prime Sabonis — I'm talking mid-20s, not early 30s — dominating the NBA.

kdspurman
01-10-2018, 12:52 PM
2012-2013 Spurs

Parker
Ginobili
Leonard
McGrady
TD

Jamiecballer
01-10-2018, 03:07 PM
I'm quite confused. Admittedly the wording in the OP was tough to follow but I though we were talking about real teams, just imagining that all the players on it were at their peaks at the time they were assembled into 1 unit.

I don't actually have an opinion on this at the moment, just thought it seemed like it had gotten away from that.



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valade16
01-10-2018, 03:38 PM
Some consideration should be given to the 1985 Philadelphia 76ers, who had Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, Dr. J, Bobby Jones Moses Malone and Charles Barkley.

Redrum187
01-10-2018, 04:33 PM
Some consideration should be given to the 1985 Philadelphia 76ers, who had Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, Dr. J, Bobby Jones Moses Malone and Charles Barkley.

Bobby Jones <3

GREATNESS ONE
01-10-2018, 04:41 PM
How about those 01 TrailBlazers?

Kemp, Pippen, S Smith, Sabonis, Schrempf, Stoudamire, Sheed, Strickland, Bonzi, etc

Hawkeye15
01-10-2018, 05:00 PM
I'm quite confused. Admittedly the wording in the OP was tough to follow but I though we were talking about real teams, just imagining that all the players on it were at their peaks at the time they were assembled into 1 unit.

I don't actually have an opinion on this at the moment, just thought it seemed like it had gotten away from that.



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right. Are we talking about a specific team, like the 1982 Lakers? Or the 2004 Lakers? Or are we just assembling a team with any player that ever played for them like an all star roster?

Redrum187
01-10-2018, 05:14 PM
The wording makes me think "all players on a team at the same time"... So Barry wouldn't be able to do his underhand free throws with Curry and Durant.

I might have to go with the Lakers... but the Bulls team with Parish would be quite good too...

Jamiecballer
01-10-2018, 06:07 PM
right. Are we talking about a specific team, like the 1982 Lakers? Or the 2004 Lakers? Or are we just assembling a team with any player that ever played for them like an all star roster?OP makes it pretty clear, he have examples.

I have to agree that Blazers squad is nasty

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Chronz
01-10-2018, 07:47 PM
Who's dub c ?

IKnowHoops
01-11-2018, 03:39 AM
2012-2013 Spurs

Parker
Ginobili
Leonard
McGrady
TD

I still can’t stop watching KL take 3-4 steps in your sig

LOb0
01-11-2018, 03:56 AM
Rajon Rondo / Delonte West
Ray Allen / Avery Bradley
Paul Pierce / Jeff Green
Kevin Garnett / Glenn Davis
Shaquille O'Neil / Jermaine O'Neil

I think the 2010-11 Celtics gotta be up there


One of the most underrated teams of all time when healthy. When Shaq was on the floor they were just so perfectly balanced.

kdspurman
01-11-2018, 08:36 AM
I still can’t stop watching KL take 3-4 steps in your sig

It's a gather ,then 2 steps. ;)

Ahriman
01-11-2018, 08:55 AM
What about the 2013 Knicks?

Kidd
J.R Smith (lol)
Anthony
Stoudemire - K-Mart
Camby - Chandler

Not too shabby but I guess that Smith at SG kinda kills it lol

Heediot
01-11-2018, 09:04 AM
Bulls 96-96

Ron Harper-Michael Jordan-Scottie Pippen-Dennis Rodman-Robet Parish

Crazy *** defense, throw in Parish and his well rounded game, I don't see how you stopping this triangle.

They have 3 point specialists off the Bench.

Harper was a 20PPg in his prime, but he'll probably get less touches. Parish could score too. Offense is more then enough. Kukoc off the Bench. with Kerr and Judd for 3's. A bunch of bigs to hack people.

Heediot
01-11-2018, 10:04 AM
What about the 2013 Knicks?

Kidd
J.R Smith (lol)
Anthony
Stoudemire - K-Mart
Camby - Chandler

Not too shabby but I guess that Smith at SG kinda kills it lol

Smith isn't too bad, as he is a shooter they need for spacing. Under Jason Kidd's leadership, I think guys will tow the line and listen to his orders. Kidd knew how to get guys to buy in.

Heediot
01-11-2018, 10:07 AM
Rajon Rondo / Delonte West
Ray Allen / Avery Bradley
Paul Pierce / Jeff Green
Kevin Garnett / Glenn Davis
Shaquille O'Neil / Jermaine O'Neil

I think the 2010-11 Celtics gotta be up there


2012-2013 Spurs

Parker
Ginobili
Leonard
McGrady
TD

Both of these squads can very well challenge for the best team.

The Celtics probably have the best collection of bigs ever with that team. Defense is nasty too.

The Spurs have well rounded team with ball handlers everywhere. I have a big bias toward any team with Duncan.

jaydubb
01-11-2018, 10:31 AM
For all confused, the OP was saying best team that actually played together had they been in their prime.. '04 lakers is a good example with kobe shaq malone and Payton ( both Payton and malone were past their prime but the scenario OP is giving is if they were actually in their prime while on that same team).

I think the current Cavs is a good one..

Isaiah thomas
Derrick rose
Dwyane wade
Lebron
Kevin love
Jr smith
Jeff green

All of these guys in their prime scored 18+ Ppg and several (5 of them) actually scored 25+ ppg.. Then you also have guys like korver who in his prime shot over 50% from 3point range and Jose Calderon who was a very good playmaker in his prime and averaged close to a double double.

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jaydubb
01-11-2018, 10:32 AM
Also OKC from like 5 years ago when they had Westbrook, Durant, and harden. That's 3 of the last 5 mvps right there (if harden wins this year)

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Heediot
01-11-2018, 10:51 AM
For all confused, the OP was saying best team that actually played together had they been in their prime.. '04 lakers is a good example with kobe shaq malone and Payton ( both Payton and malone were past their prime but the scenario OP is giving is if they were actually in their prime while on that same team).

I think the current Cavs is a good one..

Isaiah thomas
Derrick rose
Dwyane wade
Lebron
Kevin love
Jr smith
Jeff green

All of these guys in their prime scored 18+ Ppg and several (5 of them) actually scored 25+ ppg.. Then you also have guys like korver who in his prime shot over 50% from 3point range and Jose Calderon who was a very good playmaker in his prime and averaged close to a double double.

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They are right up there offensively. Defense is still suspect though.

Ahriman
01-11-2018, 11:02 AM
Smith isn't too bad, as he is a shooter they need for spacing. Under Jason Kidd's leadership, I think guys will tow the line and listen to his orders. Kidd knew how to get guys to buy in.

Yeah I did not account for Kidd's leadership, but my gosh Smith is such a head case that I think they'd butt heads more than once :laugh:

MygirlhatesCod
01-11-2018, 11:14 AM
i like the 98-99 lakers for fit

D. Fisher
Kobe
G. Rice
Rodman
Shaq
w/ Horry and Harper coming off the bench.

mightybosstone
01-11-2018, 12:23 PM
Some consideration should be given to the 1985 Philadelphia 76ers, who had Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, Dr. J, Bobby Jones Moses Malone and Charles Barkley.
I came in here specifically to mention this Philly team with baby Barkley and ancient Dr. J. That squad would have been a monster with those guys in their peaks. That would be the greatest rebounding front court in the history of the league. Obviously those Lakers teams with past-their-prime versions of Payton and Malone would be ridiculous as well.

But everyone is throwing out homer picks, so I'll throw out two late 90s Rockets squads:

97-98
PG Matt Maloney / Brent Price (PG is a major weakness on both teams)
SG Clyde Drexler
SF Eddie Johnson / Mario Ellie
PF Charles Barkley
C Hakeem Olajuwon / Kevin Willis

This team was already damn good and was likely one unfortunate John Stockton 3-pointer away from facing Jordan's Bulls in the Finals. But getting Hakeem, Barkley and Drexler all at their peaks and adding in really solid guys who were ancient at this point in Eddie Johnson and Kevin Willis would make them ridiculous.

98-99
PG Michael Dickerson
SG Cuttino Mobley
SF Scottie Pippen / Eddie Johnson
PF Charles Barkley / Antoine Carr
C Hakeem Olajuwon

This team loses peak Drexler and Willis, but adds peak Pippen as well as Dickerson, Mobley and Carr, who all had a few sneaky good seasons in their careers. While I loathed Pippen in his time in Houston, I actually think this team would be slightly better than the 97-98 peak squad thanks to Pippen's defense and distribution skills as well as the additions of some excellent shooters in Dickerson and Mobley.

valade16
01-11-2018, 12:47 PM
I think the 1999 Lakers deserve some love (even if they aren't quite as good as their 2004 counterparts):

Shaq
Kobe
Glen Rice
Eddie Jones
Derek Harper
Dennis Rodman

The 2012 Mavericks have quite a few stars as well.
Dirk Nowitzki
Jason Kidd
Vince Carter
Shawn Marion
Lamar Odom
Jason Terry

The 2008 Suns are fairly ridiculous too:
Shaq
Nash
Amare
Shawn Marion
Grant Hill

There's also two variants of the Heat you could use that would be fairly good:

2007 Heat:
Shaq
Wade
Alonzo Mourning
Gary Payton
Eddie Jones

2008 Heat;
Shaq
Wade
Alonzo Mourning
Penny Hardaway
Shawn Marion

Both the Magic Lakers and Bird Celtics add an MVP Center to their teams:

1984 Lakers:
Magic
Kareem
Worthy
Bob McAdoo
Jamal Wilkes
Byron Scott
Michael Cooper

1986 Celtics:
Bird
McHale
Parish
Bill Walton
Dennis Johnson
Danny Ainge

Also, the 1997 Phoenix Suns would have the best PG rotation of all-time lol:
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Kevin Johnson
Sam Cassell

Heediot
01-13-2018, 07:56 AM
One of my favorites 12-13 Clippers

Cp3-Bledsoe
Billups-J. Crawford
Grant Hill-C. Butler-M. Barnes
Odom-BG
DeAndre -Turiaf

I'm starting Odom over Blake for spacing and defensive purposes. Starting defense is damn good. The Bench can score with anyone with BG, Crawford, Bledsoe and co.

A small ball lineup with BG instead of DJ, would be one of the best passing teams ever.

Heediot
01-13-2018, 10:11 AM
I came in here specifically to mention this Philly team with baby Barkley and ancient Dr. J. That squad would have been a monster with those guys in their peaks. That would be the greatest rebounding front court in the history of the league. Obviously those Lakers teams with past-their-prime versions of Payton and Malone would be ridiculous as well.
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Yeah forgot about those Lakers with GP and Malone. Not as deep as other teams, but the top 4 players are unreal. Not too sure how well the chemistry works with all of them though. Somethings gotta give with the post touches between two of the elite scoring bigs. A lot of high IQ players so it can work. If Kobe can buy in and not want to glory hog is still a filthy team. Fox probably starts at the 3 for spacing. Horace, Fisher and Byron Russell should round out a solid 8 man rotation.

mrblisterdundee
01-13-2018, 09:48 PM
I'd like to believe Mikhail Prokhorov was thinking of a thread like this when he helped assemble Kevin Garnett, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Deron Williams, Brook Lopez, Jason Terry and Andre Kirilenko.

dee85
05-10-2018, 11:57 PM
Don't forget Troy Murphy, Nenad Krstic, and Carlos Arroyo.

IKnowHoops
05-11-2018, 12:07 AM
Lakers 2005

Shaq
Malone
Glenn Rice?
Kobe
GP

Bostonjorge
05-11-2018, 12:31 AM
Rockets 1999

Dream
Barkley
Pippen
Drexler
Mobbly
6th Horry

Bostonjorge
05-11-2018, 12:39 AM
Suns 2009

Shaq
Stoudemire
Grant Hill
Richardson
Nash
6th man Dragon

NYKalltheway
05-11-2018, 02:51 AM
Just want to mention Orlando Magic in 2001-2.

PG-Tracy McGrady
SG- Mike Miller
SF- Grant Hill
PF-Horace Grant
C- Patrick Ewing

The actual PG was Darrell Armstrong though but had to put Mike Miller there over him.

AntiG
05-11-2018, 03:40 PM
Rajon Rondo / Delonte West
Ray Allen / Avery Bradley
Paul Pierce / Jeff Green
Kevin Garnett / Glenn Davis
Shaquille O'Neil / Jermaine O'Neil

I think the 2010-11 Celtics gotta be up there

that team with all players in their prime might very well be the best of this bunch.

AntiG
05-15-2018, 04:47 PM
those failure Lakers teams with Shaq, Kobe, Malone, Payton, Fisher, Fox, Grant; and Howard, Nash, Kobe, Gasol, Jamison, Artest if all in their primes would have been ridiculous if they could get along lol