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kdspurman
01-02-2018, 04:32 PM
Tuesday January 2nd, 2018


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tredigs
01-02-2018, 07:13 PM
Blazers/Cavs. IT makes his debut and Lillard returns. That's a watch.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:16 PM
Blazers/Cavs. IT makes his debut and Lillard returns. That's a watch.

Yep. Can't wait! I'm expecting him to be rusty, though.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:17 PM
Wow Evan Turner got fat

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:19 PM
LeBron hasn't been attacking the rim for several games now. All jump shots.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 08:24 PM
Gonna be good. Took the Blazers, the over, and the Blazers to cover the +8.5

IT in now. Let's goooo~!

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:24 PM
Refs letting them play

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:29 PM
Our defense is so bad, man. No defense on the wings and nothing from the interior.

That's honestly the main reason our bench has looked so good - our starters are often like traffic cones.

I just wanna wipe out this team - get rid of JR, TT, and Crowder for defensive juggernauts.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 08:31 PM
Our defense is so bad, man. No defense on the wings and nothing from the interior.

That's honestly the main reason our bench has looked so good - our starters are often like traffic cones.

I just wanna wipe out this team - get rid of JR, TT, and Crowder for defensive juggernauts.

Trades rarely net +value is the issue. But agreed, Crowder's D has been a little underwhelming and TT never really made the leap.

aman_13
01-02-2018, 08:35 PM
IT looks a little heavier.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 08:35 PM
You should be excited AF about IT though. They really should offset him with LBJ and never have one off the court at any time. That's a tough team to defend for 48 minutes.

HandsOnTheWheel
01-02-2018, 08:36 PM
IT was the missing piece. Cavs are the championship favorites now

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:37 PM
Trades rarely net +value is the issue. But agreed, Crowder's D has been a little underwhelming and TT never really made the leap.

Yeah, it's tough to find good enough pieces when you aren't really trading **** yourself.

I hope Lue cuts down JR's minutes. He's soooo bad out there and brings absolutely nothing except streaky shooting.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:47 PM
JR is averaging 30mpg that's just way too much

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 08:50 PM
lebron realy has to stop asking for fouls all the time. I know he's getting hammered often but he just needs to explose through all the contact and get some buckets. Get in the groove a bit. Constantly whining because of missed outside shots isnt gonna work for him right now

tredigs
01-02-2018, 08:51 PM
If Dame gets hot the Blazers will be tough to beat tonight. That was a mini heat-check that passed for him just now.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:52 PM
That pass by IT is a pass Kyrie never could've made.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:54 PM
Love dove on the floor this time. He didn't dive last possession and it resulted in a Blazers 3.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 08:54 PM
Wow. The ultra rare loose-ball foul on a player jumping on the ball. That's called 1 out of 20 times.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 08:56 PM
I think the whistle is favoring the blazers a little bit but the Cavs need to stop crying and play with THE SAME INTENSITY ON DEFENSE

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:00 PM
sick flop. He didnt even hit his head

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:01 PM
if i were adam silver i would suspend him for 20 games. Screw that weak *** flopping bs

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:02 PM
Lmao Nurk gets hit in the face then again by Crowder on the way down. Bron wanting the block there is funny. Good showing continuing to attack the rim there though, I know he's pissed about a few non calls early.

Bron still thinks he flopped? Cavs fans going crazy over that call? He hit him in the face.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:02 PM
Nurkic with the flop

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:03 PM
Lmao Nurk gets hit in the face then again by Crowder on the way down. Bron wanting the block there is funny. Good showing continuing to attack the rim there though, I know he's pissed about a few non calls early.

Bron still thinks he flopped? Cavs fans going crazy over that call? He hit him in the face.

Lebron literally didnt touch him lol

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:03 PM
Nurkic with the flop

Dog. I'm watching the Blazers feed so not sure what you're seeing but that wasn't a flop

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:05 PM
Lebron literally didnt touch him lol

Hit him in the face with the ball in his hands. It wasn't subtle. Honestly wondering what feed they are showing you guys. In the Blazers feed they showed the angle where it was as plain as there is.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:05 PM
sick flop. He didnt even hit his head

Yeah, replay showed he didn't get hit in the face by Bron. He did take an elbow to the chest but it wasn't hard enough to warrant him flying in the other direction.

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:06 PM
Hit him in the face with the ball in his hands. It wasn't subtle. Honestly wondering what feed they are showing you guys. In the Blazers feed they showed the angle where it was as plain as there is.

wel in the cavs feed Lebron literally DID not touch nurkics face at ALL. Veerex can back me up on this.. maybe from a different angle he got hit i dunno

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:07 PM
You guys are trippin lol.


Fun first half though. Really ****ing glad to see IT and Lillard back on the court.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:09 PM
Dog. I'm watching the Blazers feed so not sure what you're seeing but that wasn't a flop

It was a flop. Not obvious at first, but the replays showed it. LeBron caught him with an elbow in the chest (that was an offensive foul) but didn't touch his head. Nurkic snapped his head back violently though and fell into Crowder.

The foul was there, I get that, but Nurkic also sold the **** out of it.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:10 PM
wel in the cavs feed Lebron literally DID not touch nurkics face at ALL. Veerex can back me up on this.. maybe from a different angle he got hit i dunno

He hit him square in the face with both hands and the ball in his hand s(not that hard, but blatant), then got knocked in the back of the head by Crowder on his way to the floor. Did not look fun.

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:11 PM
He hit him square in the face with both hands and the ball in his hand s(not that hard, but blatant), then got knocked in the back of the head by Crowder on his way to the floor. Did not look fun.

do you maybe have a link to your clip? im starting to get curious considering on my feed lebron literally didnt touch him. This aint a matter of agreeing or disagreeing but lebron literally didnt touch his head. Crowder did afterwards but thats a different story

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:16 PM
do you maybe have a link to your clip? im starting to get curious considering on my feed lebron literally didnt touch him. This aint a matter of agreeing or disagreeing but lebron literally didnt touch his head. Crowder did afterwards but thats a different story

Just checked twitter and they only had the aftermath so far. I'm sure they will soon. Again it wasn't hard, but blatant (it was a feed from under the basket).

Judging by the reaction from the Cavs fans in the stadium (and you guys) that was NOT the feed they saw.

WaDe03
01-02-2018, 09:17 PM
JR is averaging 30mpg that's just way too much

He's so bad man!

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:18 PM
do you maybe have a link to your clip? im starting to get curious considering on my feed lebron literally didnt touch him. This aint a matter of agreeing or disagreeing but lebron literally didnt touch his head. Crowder did afterwards but thats a different story

they showed a clip at the Q and froze it at the "point of contact" and lebron wasn't touching his head (just the elbow to the chest). Idk, maybe it's just hard to see from certain angles

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:19 PM
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/948361719918731264
heres the feed from my angle. Didnt touch him anywhere. What angle did you see it from?

WaDe03
01-02-2018, 09:20 PM
IT looks pretty damn good for his first game back. I've been seeing rumors the Cavs are interested in Lou Williams, just keep adding bucket getters lol!

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:21 PM
Turner went right around JR.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:21 PM
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh now I'm seeing a 3rd angle on it and while he touched his face (and technically is a foul), I think Nurkic flopped back with perfect timing. He paid for it with Crowder hitting him in the back of the head on the way down though.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:22 PM
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/948361719918731264
heres the feed from my angle. Didnt touch him anywhere. What angle did you see it from?

That's the angle I just saw. Blazers have an angle where it looks blatant. I think this is the best view though.

Anyway, back to the game.

WaDe03
01-02-2018, 09:22 PM
Calderon has been solid here and there but I'm glad to get him out of the rotation. Feels like 4 on 5 a lot of the time when he's out there, 3 on 5 if we're counting JR lol.

WaDe03
01-02-2018, 09:23 PM
Hell, has Calderon been better than JR lol?

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:25 PM
Players in year 15 shouldn't be able to double clutch dunk that easily.

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:26 PM
Hell, has Calderon been better than JR lol?

even osmann has been better then JR. He hasnt done ANYTHING at all in the past couple games

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:28 PM
i wish Klove was as good as tim duncan defensively. He would be such an awesome player

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:30 PM
Our defensive rebounding is trash, man.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:32 PM
Like, I get Love is having his best year as a Cav, but we give up soooo much defense and rebounding with him at the 5.

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:32 PM
Like, I get Love is having his best year as a Cav, but we give up soooo much defense and rebounding with him at the 5.

thats what i mean, if only he was at like chris bosh level of defending it would be a lot better already

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:36 PM
Shut me up, JR!

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:36 PM
looks like JR heard us lol

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:36 PM
thats what i mean, if only he was at like chris bosh level of defending it would be a lot better already

Yep, agreed

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:37 PM
wtf that shot. insane!

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:38 PM
Gtfo that's an AND1!

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:40 PM
Then they call that BS tap on IT come on, man

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:40 PM
Gtfo that's an AND1!

That was insane.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:41 PM
Then they call that BS tap on IT come on, man

He dragged his arm going into a shot. That's a foul. Could've called it as a non-shooting I guess but it's a foul lol.


This is a fun game, and it's gonna win me some $. A lot more if the Blazers win outright.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:45 PM
He dragged his arm going into a shot. That's a foul. Could've called it as a non-shooting I guess but it's a foul lol.


This is a fun game, and it's gonna win me some $. A lot more if the Blazers win outright.

Yeah it's pretty fun lol

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:47 PM
Lmao IT didn't get TOUCHED on that three

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:48 PM
Lol damn. Blazers screwed on that one huge. At least the Ball Didn't Lie.

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:49 PM
blazers keep hitting quiet tough threes to stay in the game. shaping up to be a close ending for sure

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:50 PM
Big quarter for the Cavs. The pace is a little ****ed up by the over-reffing but this game isn't disappointing.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:51 PM
blazers keep hitting quiet tough threes to stay in the game. shaping up to be a close ending for sure

Yeah. I get pissed when the Rubios and bad 3 point shooters do this to us, but I can't say anything when it's Lillard and McCollum.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 09:54 PM
Over-reffing again but IT did unnecessarily lean.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:55 PM
Waaaaaade!

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 09:56 PM
I'm liking this Wade/TT pick n roll though

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 09:57 PM
I'm liking this Wade/TT pick n roll though

wade has always been masterfull in the pick n roll. shouldve seen him with whiteside in miami

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 10:01 PM
Man IT is looking so damn good in his 1st game back. Clearly rusty but he'll get it together

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:02 PM
Cavs are letting away some easy shots but the Blazers are just missing in this stretch. Cleveland's closing the door though. Their offense has a lot of angles.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 10:02 PM
Wade > JR

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:03 PM
Nice to see IT back for sure. Makes the Cavs a lot more fun to watch.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:04 PM
Wade > JR

Earth > Mars

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 10:05 PM
We really have no answer for Nurkic

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:06 PM
Portland's a top FT shooting team and shooting ~63% on big attempts. That's your game.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:08 PM
More over-officiating fouling out Turner going straight up on a free ball with a player corralling into him. Refs are garbage in this game.

archdevil84
01-02-2018, 10:10 PM
peanut butter and jelly karma

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:14 PM
May have to settle for the over. This timeout will be interesting.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:16 PM
Honestly this game ended up being lame. Just a FT contest. 35 FT attempts so far for Cleveland smh.

Vee-Rex
01-02-2018, 10:19 PM
Honestly this game ended up being lame. Just a FT contest. 35 FT attempts so far for Cleveland smh.

:laugh2: you were just saying how good it was

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:24 PM
Nice W for the Cavs. Dinner time. Got Clips on the night game.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 10:25 PM
:laugh2: you were just saying how good it was

As a Cavs fan I expect you to like the result but that 4th quarter was about as un-entertaining as basketball gets. FT contests with guys who can't shoot. No thanks.

tredigs
01-02-2018, 11:37 PM
Jeff Green scoring double digits from the bench without making a single shot is impressive.


Looking forward to the night games.

aman_13
01-02-2018, 11:50 PM
The Cavs look so stacked and they have Rose sitting at the end of the bench in street clothes.

I thought IT looked really good for his first game.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:07 AM
lebron realy has to stop asking for fouls all the time. I know he's getting hammered often but he just needs to explose through all the contact and get some buckets. Get in the groove a bit. Constantly whining because of missed outside shots isnt gonna work for him right now

No! He needs to add Hardens "arm grab you fouled me move" and then he easily surpasses Mike.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:13 AM
hell, has calderon been better than jr lol?

y.e.s.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:16 AM
Like, I get Love is having his best year as a Cav, but we give up soooo much defense and rebounding with him at the 5.

Him and Cousins together would be beyond unstoppable. I'll take DJ for Tristan/Shump/Our pick, then maybe try and package DJ/JR/Nets pick for Coisins. Pelicans probably get better.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:18 AM
I'm liking this Wade/TT pick n roll though

It would be ridiculous with DJ in there.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:21 AM
Man IT is looking so damn good in his 1st game back. Clearly rusty but he'll get it together

Yes, first game back and he clearly made the Cavs better. Love having him over Kyrie and that was a good reminder why. I main thing I like about him is he makes a move and then either shoots or passes. Kyrie makes one move, then another move, then another move, then ten more moves, and people are just standing. IT does his work within the offense and they keep flow and are so much better for it.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:25 AM
Honestly this game ended up being lame. Just a FT contest. 35 FT attempts so far for Cleveland smh.


:laugh2: you were just saying how good it was

😂🤣

tredigs
01-03-2018, 12:27 AM
Yes, first game back and he clearly made the Cavs better. Love having him over Kyrie and that was a good reminder why. I main thing I like about him is he makes a move and then either shoots or passes. Kyrie makes one move, then another move, then another move, then ten more moves, and people are just standing. IT does his work within the offense and they keep flow and are so much better for it.

You're confused. IT LOVES the ball in his hands and it was a major point of contention between him and Cousins in Sac.

tredigs
01-03-2018, 12:33 AM
😂🤣

You didn't watch the game. The 4th quarter was pathetic.

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 12:35 AM
It would be ridiculous with DJ in there.

I'm telling you, if they get Cousins or DJ Wade is going to **** everyone up in the 2 man game. I'm obviously biased but give me Wade with a good big over anyone. Whiteside hasn't been the same since he left. Still good though. Kobe said Wade is the best pick n roll player he's ever seen, he said he would just disappear. Magic said Wade is the best lob passer ever. Put those 2 things with Cousins and you have LeBron, it's a wrap lol!

tredigs
01-03-2018, 12:35 AM
IT outpaced both Lebron and Kyrie in "Time of Possession" with the ball last year. Remind me again how he's a catch and pass player.

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 12:37 AM
Tredigs I didn't get to watch the 2nd half but you said someone in their 15th season shouldn't be able to double clutch dunk like that, I thought Wade did it then I remembered LeBron is on the team :(

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 12:39 AM
IT outpaced both Lebron and Kyrie in "Time of Possession" with the ball last year. Remind me again how he's a catch and pass player.

He's a good catch and shoot guy though, they'll figure it out. I can't lie, he's given me hope. I mean if he played normal minutes tonight he was at least getting 30. That's encouraging for a guy in his first game back.

tredigs
01-03-2018, 12:46 AM
He's a good catch and shoot guy though, they'll figure it out. I can't lie, he's given me hope. I mean if he played normal minutes tonight he was at least getting 30. That's encouraging for a guy in his first game back.

He's a major + for the team, that's unquestionable. He'll further weaken their D, but he's basically Kyrie offensively. But yeah, if you think he will be good playing off the ball, good luck. That guy will take a lot of integration.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:54 AM
Honestly this game ended up being lame. Just a FT contest. 35 FT attempts so far for Cleveland smh.


You're confused. IT LOVES the ball in his hands and it was a major point of contention between him and Cousins in Sac.

You are failing to realize two things.

All the a Kings did was loose, so of course two 25pt scorers are gonna be pissed.

Compared to a Kyrie, he doesn't hold the ball long at all.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 12:58 AM
Honestly this game ended up being lame. Just a FT contest. 35 FT attempts so far for Cleveland smh.


You didn't watch the game. The 4th quarter was pathetic.

That doesn't mean that you talking about how entertaining the game is all thread long only for your last comment to say this game sucks, isn't funny as h---. Specially once the Cavs put the game away. Especially given your homer/Bron hating track record. You gotta at least admit all those things taken into account, it's funny to read through.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 01:00 AM
Honestly this game ended up being lame. Just a FT contest. 35 FT attempts so far for Cleveland smh.


IT outpaced both Lebron and Kyrie in "Time of Possession" with the ball last year. Remind me again how he's a catch and pass player.

He was on a team filled with guys who can't score or create there own shot. Must I go on?

tredigs
01-03-2018, 01:07 AM
That doesn't mean that you talking about how entertaining the game is all thread long only for your last comment to say this game sucks, isn't funny as h---. Specially once the Cavs put the game away. Especially given your homer/Bron hating track record. You gotta at least admit all those things taken into account, it's funny to read through.

Lol I know I get it and fair enough my dude. The game was really good for 2-3 quarters, DIED in the 4th. Cavs winning killed my buzz also, but it really was just a **** 4th quarter.

Anyways, this is the past. Let's go Clips.

Teledovic is smart but slow as **** and not athletic. Coming to the NBA as a rookie in your 30's is tough. He's a slightly better Calderon.

tredigs
01-03-2018, 01:16 AM
He was on a team filled with guys who can't score or create there own shot. Must I go on?

Lmao. His entire life? Guy, wake up. I get that you don't watch the NBA like I do, but this is NOT an off-ball player, trust.

BKLYNpigeon
01-03-2018, 01:57 AM
Next Warriors - Cavs game should be fun with everyone back healthy.

How many times will they switch KD on IT? ISOs all day.

tredigs
01-03-2018, 02:09 AM
Clips do their job and cover. Winning ; )

ewing
01-03-2018, 02:15 AM
19 mins 16 points for IT. I guess PSD was right. he'll never be that player we saw last year again

ewing
01-03-2018, 02:17 AM
IT outpaced both Lebron and Kyrie in "Time of Possession" with the ball last year. Remind me again how he's a catch and pass player.

that's b/c LeBron and Kyrie were on the same team.

More-Than-Most
01-03-2018, 02:38 AM
19 mins 16 points for IT. I guess PSD was right. he'll never be that player we saw last year again

Did people say this? I thought it was always known that he was just a lesser version of Kyrie... Nothing wrong with it but he wont be as good as kyrie is... its def close but Id prefer the slight size of kyrie... IT is a blackhole on defense and wont help them at all against a warriors team.

Saddletramp
01-03-2018, 03:36 AM
Jeff Green scoring double digits from the bench without making a single shot is impressive.


Looking forward to the night games.

Usually when you give one of your famous back handed compliments (which I doubt most of these guys pick up on) I just roll my eyes and think "****ing tre, I'd call that out if I cared enough" but this one got me to chuckle a bit. Good one.

ewing
01-03-2018, 07:32 AM
Did people say this? I thought it was always known that he was just a lesser version of Kyrie... Nothing wrong with it but he wont be as good as kyrie is... its def close but Id prefer the slight size of kyrie... IT is a blackhole on defense and wont help them at all against a warriors team.

Of course he will help them. You say some dumb stuff


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More-Than-Most
01-03-2018, 09:29 AM
Of course he will help them. You say some dumb stuff


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yes he will help them but he isnt an upgrade over kyrie and the warriors can exploit him beyond badly.. That was my main point

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 10:15 AM
Next Warriors - Cavs game should be fun with everyone back healthy.

How many times will they switch KD on IT? ISOs all day.

Same with LeBron switching on Curry.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 11:19 AM
Lmao. His entire life? Guy, wake up. I get that you don't watch the NBA like I do, but this is NOT an off-ball player, trust.

Yes, His whole career. Name a team he was on that didnít need him to get 30 to win a game until now?

Tre I get that you are only able to see things in real time. IE Boston was better than Cleveland in your opinion a month ago for you. But for some of us, we see more than whatís on the surface. If you canít see it, then I attribute it to the same thing that always tricks u into thinking Cavs would loose to Utah in the playoffs every year. You are just no good at talking about Cavs basketball. Hate factor is way to strong.

IKnowHoops
01-03-2018, 11:28 AM
Did people say this? I thought it was always known that he was just a lesser version of Kyrie... Nothing wrong with it but he wont be as good as kyrie is... its def close but Id prefer the slight size of kyrie... IT is a blackhole on defense and wont help them at all against a warriors team.

IT is more efficient, and doesnít dribble out the clock like Kyrie

ewing
01-03-2018, 11:29 AM
Lmao. His entire life? Guy, wake up. I get that you don't watch the NBA like I do, but this is NOT an off-ball player, trust.

so? he can space. Dude will get buckets and penetration when he is on ball and will space for LeBron like everyone else when he is off ball. Dude doesn't need to run off screens like Rip Hamilton

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 11:34 AM
Can't wait to watch IT again!

Chronz
01-03-2018, 11:48 AM
Cleveland could use more diversity in their offense, I can see IT bringing more of that Boston style handoffs with he and Love, I sure hope they dont just expect this guy to become an ISO killer like Kyrie was, expecting him to full that role would be a definite downgrade but we'll see how it goes. I dont know what the numbers said but it seemed to me you had to keep IT in motion.

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 12:29 PM
So no one was going to tell me that for his first bucket last night Wade broke the **** out of CJs ankles on his patented half spin turnaround fadeaway jumper on the baseline?!

Giannis94
01-03-2018, 01:34 PM
So no one was going to tell me that for his first bucket last night Wade broke the **** out of CJs ankles on his patented half spin turnaround fadeaway jumper on the baseline?!

Hmm do you talk about anyone else aside from you know who?

WaDe03
01-03-2018, 02:17 PM
Hmm do you talk about anyone else aside from you know who?

Check my previous post. Reported.

lol, please
01-03-2018, 02:26 PM
Dubs moving to -7.5. Where's tredigs!?

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