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kdspurman
12-28-2017, 03:55 PM
Thursday December 28th, 2017


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lol, please
12-28-2017, 04:50 PM
Rockets vs Celtics is the game the world will be watching.

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TheDish87
12-28-2017, 04:58 PM
lol, please the world will only be watching so they dont miss any of the Sixers/Blazers!

lol, please
12-28-2017, 07:41 PM
lol, please the world will only be watching so they dont miss any of the Sixers/Blazers!Haha that's a good game on paper too

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Sixers3Fan
12-28-2017, 08:25 PM
come on Sixers. Get another big primetime win

lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:10 PM
On TNT no less.

[emoji846]

Go Rockets!!!
Go Celtics!!!!

Give us one for the ages

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lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:16 PM
Gordon with a big 3!!!!



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lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:17 PM
Nene going to the rim with ease

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lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:17 PM
Anderson!!!

:faint:

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mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 09:22 PM
Wow. Was not expecting that quick start for Houston, but it's certainly a pleasant surprise. I hope they can keep up this intensity and consistency all game long. They desperately need a win.

lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:23 PM
Horford is wet!!! What a game

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lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:26 PM
Kyrie!!!! What a play

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lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:30 PM
Webber just picked Kyrie pocket.

Rockets playing really physical early

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lol, please
12-28-2017, 09:41 PM
Rockets came out and punched the storied Celtics in the mouth. How will they respond?

:confused:

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WaDe03
12-28-2017, 10:22 PM
Wow. Was not expecting that quick start for Houston, but it's certainly a pleasant surprise. I hope they can keep up this intensity and consistency all game long. They desperately need a win.

Was going to tell you in the other thread you were being too unbiased but we clearly see the Celtics can't hang with the Rockets.

lol, please
12-28-2017, 10:23 PM
KG "comon Celtics! What are y'all doin!"

[emoji23][emoji23]

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c.c.
12-28-2017, 10:43 PM
These Celtics got some fight in them, Rockets need to put their foot back on the GAS!

lol, please
12-28-2017, 10:46 PM
Morris is wet!!!!! It's a game again.

Great teams can come back from deficits. This one isn't over folks

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Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 10:50 PM
Only 2 officials is b.s. and then harden gets raked. No call.

lol, please
12-28-2017, 10:51 PM
Rockets don't seem to have an answer for Kyrie

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YAALREADYKNO
12-28-2017, 10:54 PM
Damn if harden canít get no fouls called he canít get **** RN

Bostonjorge
12-28-2017, 10:54 PM
Without the refs the rockets are not that good

tredigs
12-28-2017, 10:57 PM
Jimmy Butler just tried to set an early charge on Giannis drive, and the Freak side stepped to a degree on a Euro step that I did not know existed. He's a code breaker.

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 10:58 PM
Without the refs the rockets are not that good

Not their fault Celtics are stupid and don't know how to not foul.

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 10:59 PM
Abysmal quarter by the Rockets in pretty every facet of the game. The whole team should be embarrassed by that pathetic performance. The fact that they're still up by nine points is a testament to how well they played in the first half, and they had better wake the **** up.

WaDe03
12-28-2017, 10:59 PM
The Rockets let up after being up big. Easy to do but not easy to battle playing in an arena like Bostons.

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 11:00 PM
Without the refs the rockets are not that good

That wasn't a great call. But the Celtics have to show better composure than that in a game like this where they're trying to come back. Also, prior to those four free throws, Boston had more attempts in this game.

WaDe03
12-28-2017, 11:03 PM
Is EG a top 5 shooter in the league?

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 11:04 PM
Is EG a top 5 shooter in the league?

No. WAY too streaky.

YAALREADYKNO
12-28-2017, 11:07 PM
Settling for too many 3s

lol, please
12-28-2017, 11:10 PM
Wow! 4 point game

:faint:

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WaDe03
12-28-2017, 11:11 PM
No. WAY too streaky.

Yea I never know where to put him. Kind of shooting away the lead right now.

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:11 PM
Was going to tell you in the other thread you were being too unbiased but we clearly see the Celtics can't hang with the Rockets.

They can hang. First half they just played terrible and the Rockets played very well. Exact opposite happening this half. Celtics are playing amazing despite some terrible calls too.

Giannis94
12-28-2017, 11:13 PM
Bucks down 20 with 7:20 left in the 3rd. Giannis and Bledsoe : Hold my beer, children. Up 7 with a minute left.

Starting to think Bledsoe might make the ASG.

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 11:15 PM
They can hang. First half they just played terrible and the Rockets played very well. Exact opposite happening this half. Celtics are playing amazing despite some terrible calls too.

There have been a zillion no-calls made in this half, too. That increased intensity the Celtics are playing with has come with a LOT of contact. They're grabbing, pushing and nudging a ton. Frankly, they're lucky to only have the number of calls they've had in this half.

But I won't make excuses for this half of basketball. It makes me want to throw up in my mouth. But if this were a healthy Rockets team, I don't think the two squads would be comparable.

lol, please
12-28-2017, 11:17 PM
Celtics doing everything right right now. A tale of two halves for Boston. 2 point game.

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WaDe03
12-28-2017, 11:19 PM
They can hang. First half they just played terrible and the Rockets played very well. Exact opposite happening this half. Celtics are playing amazing despite some terrible calls too.

I don't think they can to be honest.

It's kind of funny but the reasons for the comeback are lack of a ball handler outside of Harden, getting beat on the offensive glass, giving up too many close shots, and of course taking their foot off the gas. All things that are covered up by CP3 and Capela.

YAALREADYKNO
12-28-2017, 11:19 PM
Rockets annoying AF everytime they drive and donít get there way they cry every single time

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:20 PM
Rockets annoying AF everytime they drive and donít get there way they cry every single time

Because they're getting hit and not getting the call.

Celtics getting benefit of fouling and not have it called.

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 11:21 PM
The number of non calls in this half is just un****ingbelievable. Gordon clearly had the ball ripped out of his hands on that layup attempt. How the **** else did it go all the way to the backboard?

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:21 PM
Celtics allowed to foul. Rockets not.

Wish cp3 were playing.

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:22 PM
There have been a zillion no-calls made in this half, too. That increased intensity the Celtics are playing with has come with a LOT of contact. They're grabbing, pushing and nudging a ton. Frankly, they're lucky to only have the number of calls they've had in this half.

But I won't make excuses for this half of basketball. It makes me want to throw up in my mouth. But if this were a healthy Rockets team, I don't think the two squads would be comparable.

The Rockets settled for deep threes and stopped getting good shots. I rarely complain about the refs because in the end it usually equals out. Even if not in the same game, then in others. But there was some truly horrific calls during that stretch.

The Celtics arenít healthy either. Theyíve also played 3 more games then any team in the league. Theyíre tired, injured, and young.

lol, please
12-28-2017, 11:22 PM
The number of non calls in this half is just un****ingbelievable. Gordon clearly had the ball ripped out of his hands on that layup attempt. How the **** else did it go all the way to the backboard?To be fair that was clean defense on that play

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Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:22 PM
To be fair that was clean defense on that play

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You would think that watching green play for your squad.
(It's not)

You can't hold someone's hand trying to strip them as they go go for a layup

tredigs
12-28-2017, 11:23 PM
Massive comeback win by the Bucks. And the Rockets completely imploted in this game. They were up 25+ and may lose. Wow.

Giannis94
12-28-2017, 11:24 PM
Mvp. I mean Giannis.

Giannis94
12-28-2017, 11:27 PM
Mvp candidates don't implode and blow 25 pt leads. They show up and lead comebacks (minny) and hold leads (cavs)

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:28 PM
Mvp candidates don't implode and blow 25 pt leads. They show up and lead comebacks (minny) and hold leads (cavs)

Try staying above .500 in east before talking.

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 11:33 PM
Mvp candidates don't implode and blow 25 pt leads. They show up and lead comebacks (minny) and hold leads (cavs)

MVP candidates' teams have better than a 54.5 percent win percentage.

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:33 PM
MVP candidates' teams have better than a 54.5 percent win percentage.

Jinx :cheers:

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:35 PM
Refs strike again on flop

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:36 PM
Harden is so dumb. :laugh2:

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:36 PM
Tony brothers

YAALREADYKNO
12-28-2017, 11:36 PM
Ot

YAALREADYKNO
12-28-2017, 11:37 PM
😂😂😂 rockets choke

PAOboston
12-28-2017, 11:37 PM
James Harden with two loser plays in a row.

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lol, please
12-28-2017, 11:37 PM
Boston with the lead!!!!!


And Harden with a foul? Lmao what

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kdspurman
12-28-2017, 11:37 PM
Harden showing frustration .. idk if I've seen that before

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:38 PM
Smart with back-to-back flops. I'm done. **** these officials, and **** this game.

Nope. :laugh2: Those were two of the easiest offensive fouls calls in the history of the league. Harden shoved Smart about four times before that last inbound too. Easy to see it coming.

mightybosstone
12-28-2017, 11:39 PM
Smart with back-to-back flops. I'm done. **** these officials, and **** this game.

Cal827
12-28-2017, 11:39 PM
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:



I'm sorry, but what the **** was that from Harden?! :laugh2:

He legitimately cost the team the game in the last 10 seconds. Rare you see a star basically tantrum like that.

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:39 PM
WTF just happened LOL!!! this is awesome

lol, please
12-28-2017, 11:39 PM
LOL Horford with a veteran in a self pass [emoji23]

What a game omg lol. From down 26 to steal it.

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Heediot
12-28-2017, 11:39 PM
James Harden lolol

Mr. Baller
12-28-2017, 11:39 PM
Harden got out flopped.

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:40 PM
Yikes. Born to lose comes to mind. Life of a Rockets fan.

Stfu. That was you for about 40 years

Heediot
12-28-2017, 11:40 PM
Smart with back-to-back flops. I'm done. **** these officials, and **** this game.

Too aggressive with the push offs forced the refs hand.

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:40 PM
Fitting Tony brothers sealed the win. He changed the entire game with his defense against harden and every time a player drove in.

Cal827
12-28-2017, 11:40 PM
Nope. :laugh2: Those were two of the easiest offensive fouls calls in the history of the league. Harden shoved Smart about four times before that last inbound too. Easy to see it coming.

This. Smart is a flopper, but it's clear that Harden pushed him down BOTH times on the Replay.

:laugh2: I still can't believe that happened.

But watch, the team is gonna blame Tucker for missing that one free throw just because :laugh2:

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:40 PM
LOL Horford with a veteran in a self pass [emoji23]

What a game omg lol. From down 26 to steal it.

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the magic was in the building I guess

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:41 PM
Anyone who thinks that was a flop needs to get their eyes checked. Harden was clearly upset and shoved Smart. Easy call. Iíve seen Smart flop like a fish in the past, and that wasnít even close to a flop.

tredigs
12-28-2017, 11:41 PM
Yikes. Born to lose comes to mind. Life of a Rockets fan.

Scoots
12-28-2017, 11:41 PM
Wow

WaDe03
12-28-2017, 11:42 PM
Hahaha what was Harden doing?! The first was a flop but the 2nd wasn't.

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:42 PM
Anyone who thinks that was a flop needs to get their eyes checked. Harden was clearly upset and shoved Smart. Easy call. Iíve seen Smart flop like a fish in the past, and that wasnít even close to a flop.

Right. So smart was just tryna hold on with two arms for a dance before throwing himself back? Foh

lol, please
12-28-2017, 11:42 PM
Yikes. Born to lose comes to mind. Life of a Rockets fan.[emoji23][emoji23]

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Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:42 PM
Tony could of let the last one go.

The Rockets were in survive mode the entire second half. They basically cleared out for Harden and hope he made a play. That's the not the way you play. They really missed Paul.

You absolutely can not let that go. If you donít call that an offensive foul, then why even have a whistle? Easy, easy call.

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:43 PM
Right. So smart was just tryna hold on with two arms for a dance before throwing himself back? Foh

What?!?!?! :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Cal827
12-28-2017, 11:43 PM
Man, the Rocket need Paul back, just for the team discipline. I don't like Paul at all, but he wouldn't let Harden get that rattled.

aman_13
12-28-2017, 11:43 PM
Tony could of let the last one go.

The Rockets were in survive mode the entire second half. They basically cleared out for Harden and hope he made a play. That's not the way you play. They really missed Paul.

kdspurman
12-28-2017, 11:43 PM
Hahaha what was Harden doing?! The first was a flop but the 2nd wasn't.

The 2nd was frustration. I mean he extended way too much on that, and Smart probably sold it, but when you extend your arms on a push off? It's likely to get called, especially when you just did it and had some extra shoving right before it.

rhino17
12-28-2017, 11:44 PM
Absolutely atrocious again. These offensive fouls refs call on Harden to swing a game in the last minute are pathetic and disgusting

Marcus Smart is a chump.

kdspurman
12-28-2017, 11:44 PM
I wonder what the line was when Boston was down big. I put some on to start the 4th, like +475

AntiG
12-28-2017, 11:44 PM
Hell yes! What a ridiculous comeback win, and that was despite the refs raping Larkin and spotting Harden like 10 free pts tonight including that 4 step travel from stopped position that got a foul call.

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:45 PM
What?!?!?! :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

The reason harden even pushes off is because he's got his arms held at the shoulders like smart tryna get a 5th grade dance going.

Not that hard to comprehend.

AntiG
12-28-2017, 11:48 PM
Smart with back-to-back flops. I'm done. **** these officials, and **** this game.

those were legit fouls by Harden and Houston has no right to complain about the refs. The refs gave away points to the Rockets all night with some ridiculous calls, Larkin getting clotheslined and stiff armed on two different fouls called on him, Harden getting bs fouls all over the place, getting away with a crazy travel and getting a call afterwards too are just a few right off of the bat.

Rockets had the game in the bag, but the C's took it to them with nonstop defensive effort. Helluva win.

rhino17
12-28-2017, 11:48 PM
those were legit fouls by Harden and Houston has no right to complain about the refs. The refs gave away points to the Rockets all night with some ridiculous calls, Larkin getting clotheslined and stiff armed on two different fouls called on him, Harden getting bs fouls all over the place, getting away with a crazy travel and getting a call afterwards too are just a few right off of the bat.

Rockets had the game in the bag, but the C's took it to them with nonstop defensive effort. Helluva win.

Smart literally leaped off his feet

Its pathetic. Play basketball, not theatre

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:49 PM
somewhere the warriors are smiling, theyre gaining distance as the number 1 seed, and they havent had curry in 3 weeks. its friggin ridiculous

Giannis94
12-28-2017, 11:50 PM
Nice to see Harden finally get called. Never happens. But Houston fans be like "nba is rigged".. No. Try being a fan of a small market team where you get ****ed outta a finals appearance because of Timmy d.

c.c.
12-28-2017, 11:50 PM
Speechless! Iím going to bed

kdspurman
12-28-2017, 11:50 PM
somewhere the warriors are smiling, theyre gaining distance as the number 1 seed, and they havent had curry in 3 weeks. its friggin ridiculous

GS is the 1 seed as of now. Our guys are smiling too not having Kawhi for nearly 30 games and now 3 games back in the L column. It's a long season, still lots of movement likely

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:51 PM
Look at Harden after Horford made that shot. Shoves Smart multiple times. Easy to see that another shove was coming. Harden didnít think theyíd call anything on him at that point in the game.

https://twitter.com/celtics/status/946587215987200002

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:51 PM
Nice to see Harden finally get called. Never happens. But Houston fans be like "nba is rigged".. No. Try being a fan of a small market team where you get ****ed outta a finals appearance because of Timmy d.

exactly, harden manipulates calls all the time and flails going down the lane.... once in a while the calls go against him and houston fans freak out

Green_Monster
12-28-2017, 11:52 PM
The reason harden even pushes off is because he's got his arms held at the shoulders like smart tryna get a 5th grade dance going.

Not that hard to comprehend.

You are blind by homerism.

More-Than-Most
12-28-2017, 11:53 PM
id be alright with ben shooting 20 shots a night to find his shot over being a ***** like he has been lately... 4 shots tonight makes me happy.

Scoots
12-28-2017, 11:54 PM
Right. So smart was just tryna hold on with two arms for a dance before throwing himself back? Foh

To be fair the Rockets were pounding Celtics players and not getting called for it either.

rhino17
12-28-2017, 11:54 PM
exactly, harden manipulates calls all the time and flails going down the lane.... once in a while the calls go against him and houston fans freak out

Harden doesn't manipulate calls, he manipulates defenders into making stupid decisions that result in fouls. Playing a style of basketball that results in the other team having to foul you to defend you is not the same as falling on your *** at the end of a game because you are not capable of handling your business on the court

Giannis94
12-28-2017, 11:54 PM
exactly, harden manipulates calls all the time and flails going down the lane.... once in a while the calls go against him and houston fans freak out

You can't rig calls I'm huge games featuring two top 4 teams. Wirh maybe the spurs being the 5th because of how respected pop is. But like teams 6-30 Harden gets his calls. 1-4? It's a toss up. See LeBron and kd. You can't give both plsayersare same call. It's a toss up.

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:55 PM
GS is the 1 seed as of now. Our guys are smiling too not having Kawhi for nearly 30 games and now 3 games back in the L column. It's a long season, still lots of movement likely

I honestly think pop is the one coach in the league where the talent that suits up really doesnt make a difference in how well his team will play for the most part. I mean half of the spurs rotation would be garbage players on any other team in the league (Ie patty mills, danny green etc.)- but pop could pull 12 guys out of the stands and get to the conference finals with them

WaDe03
12-28-2017, 11:56 PM
Tredigs just saw that euro by Giannis, he traveled like a mother ****er lol!

Scoots
12-28-2017, 11:56 PM
Smart literally leaped off his feet

Its pathetic. Play basketball, not theatre

Right ... Smart is really annoying with the acting ... and so is Harden.

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:57 PM
You can't rig calls I'm huge games featuring two top 4 teams. Wirh maybe the spurs being the 5th because of how respected pop is. But like teams 6-30 Harden gets his calls. 1-4? It's a toss up. See LeBron and kd. You can't give both plsayersare same call. It's a toss up.

how many questionable fouls have resulted in free throws that harden shot in the last week alone

Htownballa1622
12-28-2017, 11:57 PM
In nba you're now allowed to hug someone to force them to push off, then you flail like a ****ing fish to get offensive foul called.

Nba

I'm out

likemystylez
12-28-2017, 11:59 PM
Harden doesn't manipulate calls, he manipulates defenders into making stupid decisions that result in fouls. Playing a style of basketball that results in the other team having to foul you to defend you is not the same as falling on your *** at the end of a game because you are not capable of handling your business on the court

they literally had to change a rule in the league because harden was constantly jumping into people while shooting 3s the last few years.... dont give me that bs about his playing style resulting in other teams having to foul him gtfo w/ that crap

Green_Monster
12-29-2017, 12:01 AM
And you're blinded by stupidity.

Nah. Your star finally didnít get superstar treatment and youíre upset, I get it. Your team is losing a lot recently and youíre upset, I get it.

Those were two clear offensive fouls. Harden just isnít very smart, as talented as he is..

likemystylez
12-29-2017, 12:01 AM
Right ... Smart is really annoying with the acting ... and so is Harden.

thank you! Ive watched the rockets games on league pass. the housron fans that watch rockets games through their own station honestly believe harden doesnt flop....

Now boston commentators are in a league of their own. they were on nba radio tonight and they literally questioned every single foul that was called on the celtics... and tommy heinsohn is even worse on tv

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:02 AM
Why do i have to be subjugated to listen to reggie ****ing miller.

Green_Monster
12-29-2017, 12:03 AM
In nba you're now allowed to hug someone to force them to push off, then you flail like a ****ing fish to get offensive foul called.

Nba

I'm out

Except he never hugged him. :laugh2: You really need to watch the replays instead of making yourself look bad.

Scoots
12-29-2017, 12:03 AM
Harden doesn't manipulate calls, he manipulates defenders into making stupid decisions that result in fouls. Playing a style of basketball that results in the other team having to foul you to defend you is not the same as falling on your *** at the end of a game because you are not capable of handling your business on the court

You don't think Harden screwed up trying to go through Smart right after getting a foul for the same thing? Regardless what you think of Smart that was stupid by Harden.

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:05 AM
its the embiid and CJ show right now lol.

Scoots
12-29-2017, 12:06 AM
thank you! Ive watched the rockets games on league pass. the housron fans that watch rockets games through their own station honestly believe harden doesnt flop....

Now boston commentators are in a league of their own. they were on nba radio tonight and they literally questioned every single foul that was called on the celtics... and tommy heinsohn is even worse on tv

I was watching on league pass ... decided to go with the Celtics terrible TV team because the complaining by the Rockets team is almost as annoying as the players complaining :)

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:06 AM
Joel Embiid leads the sixers in minutes in the first quarter..... BUT YO.

likemystylez
12-29-2017, 12:07 AM
I was watching on league pass ... decided to go with the Celtics terrible TV team because the complaining by the Rockets team is almost as annoying as the players complaining :)

tonights game was on TNT though?

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:07 AM
Nah. Your star finally didnít get superstar treatment and youíre upset, I get it. Your team is losing a lot recently and youíre upset, I get it.

Those were two clear offensive fouls. Harden just isnít very smart, as talented as he is..

New Avi for you

Toxeryll
12-29-2017, 12:08 AM
Its just funny that HOU fans whine about the officiating. You got used to Harden getting calls in your favour because of his superb acting skills and when other teams do it, then they get really annoyed.

lol, please
12-29-2017, 12:08 AM
Why do i have to be subjugated to listen to reggie ****ing miller."Look at Embiid, WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS!?"

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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rhino17
12-29-2017, 12:09 AM
You don't think Harden screwed up trying to go through Smart right after getting a foul for the same thing? Regardless what you think of Smart that was stupid by Harden.

It was only stupid in the sense that James Harden isn't held to the same standard as anyone else in the NBA and he should probably know that by now.

I understand it frustrating for fans of other teams when Harden draws fouls as well and as often as he does, but its something he excels at. Like it or not, when the defender reaches in and Harden pulls up for a jumper, thats a foul. When he drives and is fouled continuing to the basket, those are free throws. When he gets run into due to his ability to change pace, those are fouls. All of those are fouls for everybody in the NBA. You cannot target a player simply because he is better at doing it than everyone else. Either change the rules for everyone or call it the same for everyone. Stop treating Harden differently. Harden can legitimately draw 30 free throws a game and its because he has the skill and ability to do so, defenders are simply unable to guard his approach in a legal manner. Thats not due to cheating the system, thats due to other teams utter inability to defend him.


they literally had to change a rule in the league because harden was constantly jumping into people while shooting 3s the last few years.... dont give me that bs about his playing style resulting in other teams having to foul him gtfo w/ that crap

Bull ****

If defenders weren't so stupid as to reach into Harden on all those plays, he wouldn't get those calls. You are rewarding stupidity on the defensive end because Harden is too difficult to defend.

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:12 AM
fultz needs to hurry back... bayless might be the worst player in basketball.

likemystylez
12-29-2017, 12:13 AM
It was only stupid in the sense that James Harden isn't held to the same standard as anyone else in the NBA and he should probably know that by now.

I understand it frustrating for fans of other teams when Harden draws fouls as well and as often as he does, but its something he excels at. Like it or not, when the defender reaches in and Harden pulls up for a jumper, thats a foul. When he drives and is fouled continuing to the basket, those are free throws. When he gets run into due to his ability to change pace, those are fouls. All of those are fouls for everybody in the NBA. You cannot target a player simply because he is better at doing it than everyone else. Either change the rules for everyone or call it the same for everyone. Stop treating Harden differently. Harden can legitimately draw 30 free throws a game and its because he has the skill and ability to do so, defenders are simply unable to guard his approach in a legal manner. Thats not due to cheating the system, thats due to other teams utter inability to defend him.



Bull ****

If defenders weren't so stupid as to reach into Harden on all those plays, he wouldn't get those calls. You are rewarding stupidity on the defensive end because Harden is too difficult to defend.

LMAo i am talking about harden shooting a 3, and a defender standing still 4-5 feet away from him and harden jumping into the defender to get a call......it happened all the time

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:13 AM
TJ is so ****ing underrated.

Green_Monster
12-29-2017, 12:13 AM
New Avi for you

That was for about a tenth of a second when he first walked over to him. I know your memory is already cloudy so hereís a video.

https://twitter.com/realtompetrini/status/946587316210077697

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:15 AM
LMAo i am talking about harden shooting a 3, and a defender standing still 4-5 feet away from him and harden jumping into the defender to get a call......it happened all the time

It was actually that defenders had arms horizontal and harden would go through their arms for a 3 pointer.

League changed it because defenders were too stupid to stay vertical with their arms.

rhino17
12-29-2017, 12:16 AM
LMAo i am talking about harden shooting a 3, and a defender standing still 4-5 feet away from him and harden jumping into the defender to get a call......it happened all the time

No he doesn't. Harden gets 3 points fouls because he manipulates the screen in a way that forces the defender to reach into him and Harden pulls his shot through that reach. Don't reach and it doesn't happen. He doesn't jump into the defender the way tmac used to

These narratives about harden are written by people that literally never watch him, I swear

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:17 AM
That was for about a tenth of a second when he first walked over to him. I know your memory is already cloudy so hereís a video.

https://twitter.com/realtompetrini/status/946587316210077697

Still a foul. Which is why he needs to "push" in first place.
And your boy travels at 31 seconds 2 feet away from ref. No call. I bet that's legal in Boston too?

You benefited from b.s.. it's ok.

Cal827
12-29-2017, 12:18 AM
Harden doesn't manipulate calls, he manipulates defenders into making stupid decisions that result in fouls. Playing a style of basketball that results in the other team having to foul you to defend you is not the same as falling on your *** at the end of a game because you are not capable of handling your business on the court


:laugh: As a Raptor fan who saw him get to the line 25 times in the meeting between the two this season, I'm gonna say that he might have got one or two "superstar calls" once and a while. Just like I'm sure you've seen Lebron get those once and a while :D

In the end, it comes down to this: The Rockets were up 26 and they blew the lead; it should have never come down to a single basket, but these things happen during the season. They just need to forget the game, and get back to it against the next team they play. Hopefully, Paul is back for the more important games in your team's season.

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:19 AM
946595953741529088

946596854208266241

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:21 AM
big ben has come out firing... i ****ing love it

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:21 AM
:laugh: So, first of all, he's mad that the team suffered a little embarrassment on national TV?

Hes mad that he didnt get a bunch of calls that were no calls. Try to keep up.

Cal827
12-29-2017, 12:22 AM
946595953741529088

:laugh: So, first of all, he's mad that the team suffered a little embarrassment on national TV?

I mean, the more Refs there, the worse the games would be probably called..... Also, guys like Harden, James, Wade, Derozan, Irving, Durant would get to the line like 30 times a game, with all of them making seperate calls...

Every team's gonna need a Brian Cardinal to absorb fouls :laugh2:

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:23 AM
ben tossed up a horrid shot... came right back down and drove it home.... I dont give a **** if he goes 0 for 30... ****ing shoot and he is and thank god.

kdspurman
12-29-2017, 12:26 AM
I honestly think pop is the one coach in the league where the talent that suits up really doesnt make a difference in how well his team will play for the most part. I mean half of the spurs rotation would be garbage players on any other team in the league (Ie patty mills, danny green etc.)- but pop could pull 12 guys out of the stands and get to the conference finals with them

Idk about all that haha , but he definitely puts guys in a position to be successful. Do what you're good at and don't try and venture to much from that. Guys have to buy in

Cal827
12-29-2017, 12:27 AM
Hes mad that he didnt get a bunch of calls that were no calls. Try to keep up.

He also sometimes gets calls that should have been no calls, law of averages :laugh2:

Cal827
12-29-2017, 12:28 AM
ben tossed up a horrid shot... came right back down and drove it home.... I dont give a **** if he goes 0 for 30... ****ing shoot and he is and thank god.

Not gonna lie, if(when) Simmons gets a jump shot, I'm going to be terrified :laugh2:

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:32 AM
He also sometimes gets calls that should have been no calls, law of averages :laugh2:

At the end of games?

Didn't think so. Don't be an apologist to ****y officiating.

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 12:36 AM
I think we can all agree the first was a flop, the 2nd foul wasn't.

Green_Monster
12-29-2017, 12:37 AM
Still a foul. Which is why he needs to "push" in first place.
And your boy travels at 31 seconds 2 feet away from ref. No call. I bet that's legal in Boston too?

You benefited from b.s.. it's ok.

Um, that is not a foul. You really donít understand NBA rules.

tredigs
12-29-2017, 12:41 AM
Harden on record crying about fouls is so amazing.


Eat the loss that in a game that you had well in hand guy. Don't be ridiculous.

tredigs
12-29-2017, 12:43 AM
Lost the 2nd half 61-36 to lose by 1. He's out there crying about the refs. That's no MVP. It's why everyone hates Harden.

tredigs
12-29-2017, 12:46 AM
Meanwhile Bron and the Cavs are ******** the bed a bit as well. I guess the MVP race is open. KD is playing better than everyone the past 2 weeks. Solid case for DPOY while posting an efficient 30+ a game. Here we go -- >

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:51 AM
Um, that is not a foul. You really donít understand NBA rules.

Bear hugging someone to impede them from catching a basketball is not a foul. Got it.

I'm the homer?

Didn't care to address travel eh?

Cal827
12-29-2017, 12:52 AM
At the end of games?

Didn't think so. Don't be an apologist to ****y officiating.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

I'm done here. Goodnight people! Rocket fans, don't let this loss hit you too hard.

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 12:56 AM
Lost the 2nd half 61-36 to lose by 1. He's out there crying about the refs. That's no MVP. It's why everyone hates Harden.

yup.

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 01:01 AM
Ben and JOJO on fire.

tredigs
12-29-2017, 01:30 AM
Ben and JOJO on fire.

Saric is the X factor by far tonight. Dude is on fire. Not hitting rim.

AntiG
12-29-2017, 01:38 AM
Bear hugging someone to impede them from catching a basketball is not a foul. Got it.

I'm the homer?

Didn't care to address travel eh?

Smart wasn't bear hugging him at all. I can't believe you just re-watched the highlight and are still imagining it. The most he did was the same slight hook of the left elbow that everyone always does while the rest of his defense was perfectly legal. Harden then threw that same elbow to push and got called on it.

As far as travels go, you can easily go back and watch the four step travel that Harden did earlier in the game was well that not only was missed, but a bs foul call was given to him as well. You want an egregious no call, take a look at Shane Larkin getting clotheslined during a screen and getting called for a foul because he got smacked into the ball handler.

The refs sucked tonight but they helped the Rockets a lot more than they did the Celtics, just go back and watch it objectively if you don't believe me. Bottom line is that the Rockets, and especially Harden got their butts handed to them in the second half due to the Celtics going all out while the Rockets thought they had it all sewn up. You should be a lot more angry at your own team for their pathetic effort in the second half instead of the refs, doesn't matter how hard one team plays, there should be no way any team should come back from 26 down.

More-Than-Most
12-29-2017, 01:47 AM
so nurkic should have fouled out at the 10 minute mark but the refs are giving the blazers everything right now... seems legit... Brown lets them go on a 50 to 1 run before calling a timeout as as usual its a 3 point contest with our guys.

CityofTreez
12-29-2017, 01:54 AM
Napier is mighty mouse

HandsOnTheWheel
12-29-2017, 02:46 AM
Rockets..

Down spirals the only team who I thought could top GS's regular season record

Saddletramp
12-29-2017, 04:11 AM
That officiating was awful. Those last two flops were going to be called against Harden. He shoulda known any pressure he put on Smart was going to give Smart the excuse to fall down. Plus, the refs have had it in for him all season long.

Rest of the game was poorly called against both teams but man, I didn't notice too many in favor of either team until the third quarter. Stevens is smart, he knows with only two refs they could get away with way more and they took advantage of it. It's sad that Gordon got hammered and hit and only got one foul called for him. He gets zero respect.

Oh, and Larkin was flopping around like a fish, too. The time he fell like he got shot was after he committed a reach in so don't give me that junk but the other one he got called for shoulda been on PJ Tucker first. But PJ also got zero respect on a few calls, too. Oh, and technically Horford threw an elbow into Black on play between the flops. Not surprised that they didn't call it.


And Scoots, the Rockets travel announce team isn't as homery as their home guys. Matt Bullard is on both but he's closer to impartial then most color guys.



LMAo i am talking about harden shooting a 3, and a defender standing still 4-5 feet away from him and harden jumping into the defender to get a call......it happened all the time

4-5 feet away? What the **** are you talking about? That is physically impossible to shoot and touch a guy that


Meh, just another idiot thing said by a Warriors fan. Goddamn you guys are awful.

Saddletramp
12-29-2017, 04:39 AM
Lost the 2nd half 61-36 to lose by 1. He's out there crying about the refs. That's no MVP. It's why everyone hates Harden.

Nah, they don't like him because he tricks defenders into fouling him and made the fans cry until they changed some rules. I assume you Warriors fans hate him because he went and started his own team instead of joining the best team in the league or kicking guys in the nuts.

NFLAccess
12-29-2017, 09:05 AM
I knew the start of the 4th quarter we were gonna blow that game. You could just see the momentum changing even with the lead. Bad loss all around. Quick turnaround tonight


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Scoots
12-29-2017, 09:37 AM
Its just funny that HOU fans whine about the officiating. You got used to Harden getting calls in your favour because of his superb acting skills and when other teams do it, then they get really annoyed.

Their local broadcasting team trains them on it too. They are horribly biased so Rockets fans hear it all the time.

likemystylez
12-29-2017, 09:42 AM
I think we can all agree the first was a flop, the 2nd foul wasn't.

They were both crappy calls especially given the circumstances of the game, but harden is benefited from his share of bad calls- so i dont feel bad for the rockets

Scoots
12-29-2017, 09:44 AM
It was only stupid in the sense that James Harden isn't held to the same standard as anyone else in the NBA and he should probably know that by now.

I understand it frustrating for fans of other teams when Harden draws fouls as well and as often as he does, but its something he excels at. Like it or not, when the defender reaches in and Harden pulls up for a jumper, thats a foul. When he drives and is fouled continuing to the basket, those are free throws. When he gets run into due to his ability to change pace, those are fouls. All of those are fouls for everybody in the NBA. You cannot target a player simply because he is better at doing it than everyone else. Either change the rules for everyone or call it the same for everyone. Stop treating Harden differently. Harden can legitimately draw 30 free throws a game and its because he has the skill and ability to do so, defenders are simply unable to guard his approach in a legal manner. Thats not due to cheating the system, thats due to other teams utter inability to defend him.



Bull ****

If defenders weren't so stupid as to reach into Harden on all those plays, he wouldn't get those calls. You are rewarding stupidity on the defensive end because Harden is too difficult to defend.

No, it was dumb of Harden to try to go through the defender just after getting an offensive foul call.

As for Harden drawing fouls ... I've never said that Harden's skill is other than incredible. He's one of the best if not the best of all time in drawing contact, but ONLY Rockets fans think all the fouls are legit. Harden gets fouls called that officials afterward in replay acknowledge that they made a mistake because of his acting. I don't blame Harden for it, I blame the officials for being suckered. Yes, there are fouls on Harden that are not called, but that's true for every player in the NBA too.

Scoots
12-29-2017, 10:00 AM
:laugh: So, first of all, he's mad that the team suffered a little embarrassment on national TV?

I mean, the more Refs there, the worse the games would be probably called..... Also, guys like Harden, James, Wade, Derozan, Irving, Durant would get to the line like 30 times a game, with all of them making seperate calls...

Every team's gonna need a Brian Cardinal to absorb fouls :laugh2:

He's right about the refs ... 2 refs is a problem. I think the NBA should up it to 4 refs per game. There are too many things to watch for 3 refs to see it all, 2 is way too few.

Scoots
12-29-2017, 10:10 AM
And Scoots, the Rockets travel announce team isn't as homery as their home guys. Matt Bullard is on both but he's closer to impartial then most color guys.

I noticed they were better in general this year ... maybe it was because I happened to listen to more away games. But still the Rockets fans have been trained :)

Scoots
12-29-2017, 10:11 AM
Nah, they don't like him because he tricks defenders into fouling him and made the fans cry until they changed some rules. I assume you Warriors fans hate him because he went and started his own team instead of joining the best team in the league or kicking guys in the nuts.

LOL

I still see players flail their legs out regularly ... just don't kick people in the nuts. You can punch them in the nuts and get away with it over and over (CP3), just don't kick them. :)

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 10:39 AM
That officiating was awful. Those last two flops were going to be called against Harden. He shoulda known any pressure he put on Smart was going to give Smart the excuse to fall down. Plus, the refs have had it in for him all season long.

Rest of the game was poorly called against both teams but man, I didn't notice too many in favor of either team until the third quarter. Stevens is smart, he knows with only two refs they could get away with way more and they took advantage of it. It's sad that Gordon got hammered and hit and only got one foul called for him. He gets zero respect.

Oh, and Larkin was flopping around like a fish, too. The time he fell like he got shot was after he committed a reach in so don't give me that junk but the other one he got called for shoulda been on PJ Tucker first. But PJ also got zero respect on a few calls, too. Oh, and technically Horford threw an elbow into Black on play between the flops. Not surprised that they didn't call it.


And Scoots, the Rockets travel announce team isn't as homery as their home guys. Matt Bullard is on both but he's closer to impartial then most color guys.




4-5 feet away? What the **** are you talking about? That is physically impossible to shoot and touch a guy that


Meh, just another idiot thing said by a Warriors fan. Goddamn you guys are awful.

No need to bring race into this!

Lil Rhody
12-29-2017, 10:44 AM
My favorite part of the whole thing was watching Irving talking yelling instructing never giving up. One timeout you could see Brad drawing something and Kyrie just getting them ready. But in psd word he is the worst leader not a team guy

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Giannis94
12-29-2017, 10:53 AM
Lost the 2nd half 61-36 to lose by 1. He's out there crying about the refs. That's no MVP. It's why everyone hates Harden.
Well that, and that he's soft and doesn't play defense.

Giannis94
12-29-2017, 10:54 AM
No need to bring race into this!

Agreed. If I wrote that. Boom. Instant infraction

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 11:04 AM
My favorite part of the whole thing was watching Irving talking yelling instructing never giving up. One timeout you could see Brad drawing something and Kyrie just getting them ready. But in psd word he is the worst leader not a team guy

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He's the greatest leader in NBA history.

Lil Rhody
12-29-2017, 12:27 PM
He's the greatest leader in NBA history.Historically great! ;ų}


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Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 12:57 PM
Well that, and that he's soft and doesn't play defense.

How does it feel knowing he "doesn't play defense" but he's superior to your favorite player ?

Giannis94
12-29-2017, 01:08 PM
How does it feel knowing he "doesn't play defense" but he's superior to your favorite player ?

He is not superior to Giannis. If Giannis got all the calls he did- my god. giannis might average 40 a night. Not my fault giannis is a complete player. While harden plays 1 side of the ball and cries after every call he doesn't get. its annoying.

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 01:22 PM
He is not superior to Giannis. If Giannis got all the calls he did- my god. giannis might average 40 a night. Not my fault giannis is a complete player. While harden plays 1 side of the ball and cries after every call he doesn't get. its annoying.

Harden>Giannis.

Let me know when antetoukdnxofjpsslpwdnjdiwoppo learns how to shoot a 3 pointer.

Giannis94
12-29-2017, 01:36 PM
Harden>Giannis.

Let me know when antetoukdnxofjpsslpwdnjdiwoppo learns how to shoot a 3 pointer.

Not sure if serious. Lmk when Harden plays defense and plays the game the right way.. Aka stops begging for every single call even ones that are obviously against him

lol, please
12-29-2017, 01:38 PM
Nah, they don't like him because he tricks defenders into fouling him and made the fans cry until they changed some rules. I assume you Warriors fans hate him because he went and started his own team instead of joining the best team in the league or kicking guys in the nuts.Nevermind trying to break the 3 pt record on the Warriors in a blowout a few seasons back.


Off topic: you guys have two different color teams? For us, Fitz and Barnett do both home and away games lol

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corky831
12-29-2017, 04:52 PM
Best game I've ever been to in my life. The TD Garden was rocking! Scary to think how good the Celtics will be with everyone healthy. A line up of Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, and Horford is nasty

NFLAccess
12-29-2017, 05:07 PM
Best game I've ever been to in my life. The TD Garden was rocking! Scary to think how good the Celtics will be with everyone healthy. A line up of Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, and Horford is nasty

That would be a good NBA Finals matchup. With a healthy Capela, CP3 and Hayward

Saddletramp
12-29-2017, 06:15 PM
Nevermind trying to break the 3 pt record on the Warriors in a blowout a few seasons back.


Off topic: you guys have two different color teams? For us, Fitz and Barnett do both home and away games lol

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Clyde Drexler's never really traveled with the team except for an occasional Portland game if he's being honored for something or a New Orleans game because he's from there. Bill Worrell is their long time play by play guy and he's too old to want to travel anymore, I guess. And honestly, he's slipped in recent years and I wouldn't be surprised if this is his last season. But he's earned whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned.

Matt Bullard (former player including one of the championship seasons with the Rockets) used to be Worrell's away game color analyst but then was added to the home games too a few years back because Clyde basically sucks. This year they even started putting Worrell and Bull up in the new announcing table up in the stands somewhere and Clyde is on his own somewhere near courtside on some games this year and we get the benefit of not hearing him as much.

The away play by play guy has been doing it now for two years and he's a bit more level headed than Worrell (most younger guys are these days). Bull and him are a bit jokey at times and aren't completely homery . I like them more together but I think it's more about not having Worrell's onset dementia and Clyde's dumb takes. Bull does a good job at breaking down the plays while also sprinkling in some humor and not throwing a ton of homerism on us.

Cal827
12-29-2017, 06:19 PM
Guess it's not gonna help that the L2m report supposedly says that both were fouls, BUT Horford travelled :laugh2:


Even when the Refs get something right they **** up.

I'm curious how some of them respond, when they have to look at a replay for something else (E.g. Possession out of bounds), and the replay clearly shows the fouls that they supposedly missed.

Htownballa1622
12-29-2017, 06:55 PM
They apparently missed multiple travels.

Once again. Bull ****

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 06:57 PM
Clyde Drexler's never really traveled with the team except for an occasional Portland game if he's being honored for something or a New Orleans game because he's from there. Bill Worrell is their long time play by play guy and he's too old to want to travel anymore, I guess. And honestly, he's slipped in recent years and I wouldn't be surprised if this is his last season. But he's earned whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned.

Matt Bullard (former player including one of the championship seasons with the Rockets) used to be Worrell's away game color analyst but then was added to the home games too a few years back because Clyde basically sucks. This year they even started putting Worrell and Bull up in the new announcing table up in the stands somewhere and Clyde is on his own somewhere near courtside on some games this year and we get the benefit of not hearing him as much.

The away play by play guy has been doing it now for two years and he's a bit more level headed than Worrell (most younger guys are these days). Bull and him are a bit jokey at times and aren't completely homery . I like them more together but I think it's more about not having Worrell's onset dementia and Clyde's dumb takes. Bull does a good job at breaking down the plays while also sprinkling in some humor and not throwing a ton of homerism on us.

:laugh:

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 06:58 PM
Guess it's not gonna help that the L2m report supposedly says that both were fouls, BUT Horford travelled :laugh2:


Even when the Refs get something right they **** up.

I'm curious how some of them respond, when they have to look at a replay for something else (E.g. Possession out of bounds), and the replay clearly shows the fouls that they supposedly missed.

946807671839121408

Don't forget this one!

Saddletramp
12-29-2017, 07:28 PM
Yeah, you can't not call that and then call those flops, even if Smart was grabbing/fouling Harden to warrant Harden pushing off. Make no mistake, Harden committed at least one offensive foul but Smart committed two fouls AND flopped down twice.

corky831
12-29-2017, 07:36 PM
Harden travels all the time

Saddletramp
12-29-2017, 07:45 PM
:laugh:

I knew you were funnin' but I doubt Giannis was. He seems a little.....off.

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 07:53 PM
Harden travels all the time

No he doesn't, he's never traveled in his life.

WaDe03
12-29-2017, 07:54 PM
I knew you were funnin' but I doubt Giannis was. He seems a little.....off.

Yea there's definitely something going on there lol

Scoots
12-29-2017, 09:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVAjE1t3hWg

Don't be fooled by the title, Rockets fans have plenty here to like too.

One thing from during the game, I thought Horford could have been called on his bang and sort of hook on his shot but Ronnie and the Coach disagree. Also, I didn't see Harden gave Smart a couple shoves before the ball had even made it out of bound for the inbound and was talked to by the ref about it. I'm sorry Rockets fans, your star player cannot be that dumb and not get called on it.

JasonJohnHorn
12-29-2017, 09:12 PM
Here's the end of the game:
https://streamable.com/b9fe0

Rockets are up by 3 with 11 seconds to go. Game is not in hand, but it is there's to lose. Celtics get a deuce and turn it in a FT shooting contest, which really puts the game in the Rockets favour.


Harden get called for a foul on the inbounds play. Seems like a moment of frustration. Your leader is supposed to keep his cool and lead by example, but you might be able to let a moment like that slip. This leads to another Celtics deuce. They take the lead by one.

The Rocket had time on the clock and an inbounds play. Harden, upset, gets into a needless chest bumping confrontation which the officials let slide but would have legitimately been a call against him.

Then he willfully shoves down a Celtics player, handing the game to the Celtics rather than giving him and his teammates a chance to take the lead back.

Thoughts?

lol, please
12-29-2017, 09:48 PM
Games aren't decided by a single play. It's a combination of events that lead to a winner.

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JasonJohnHorn
12-29-2017, 09:56 PM
Games aren't decided by a single play. It's a combination of events that lead to a winner.

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This s true... however, the events that lead up to a certain point had already happened. The game was in hand at that point. From that point on, it was Houston's game to lose, and Harden's actions from that point directly cost them the game.

I understand the semantics of your argument. So yes, a call in a certain moment may go a certain way and get unduly criticized, while the same official may have made a wrong call going the other way that balances it out in the first quarter.

But as a player, in a crunch time, whose team is up... when your actions cause a team to lose, even if another player had caused a turnover that only made the lead 2 instead of 4 or 5, that is a moot point by that point and time.

A franchise player is supposed to be a leader. Had Harden's first foul there led to a loss, I wouldn't be critical; but his confrontation, which he was lucky to not get called on, and subsequent flagrant foul (and it was flagrant in my mind as it was a non-basketball play) is an example of poor leadership.

Scoots
12-29-2017, 10:29 PM
NBA says the refs got the calls right

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-2-minute-report-foul-221127849.html