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kdspurman
12-02-2017, 07:16 PM
Saturday December 2nd, 2017


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tp13baby
12-02-2017, 08:18 PM
Trap game in Denver. No Jokic Millsap and possibly Chandler.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 09:29 PM
Boban-Embiid matchup we’ve all wanted is on!

HandsOnTheWheel
12-02-2017, 09:30 PM
Cavs bench mob has been stellar

IKnowHoops
12-02-2017, 09:37 PM
Bron is unstoppable. Gonna be interesting to see if the Cavs can do the impossible again. He's still Bron so there is still that chance GS can get beat by an unimaginable performance by him.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 09:57 PM
Embiid is owning Drummond tonight.

IKnowHoops
12-02-2017, 10:09 PM
Cavs are so lucky to have Wade able to come in for Bron and the team is able to excel

IKnowHoops
12-02-2017, 10:10 PM
Wade s a smart defender

NFLAccess
12-02-2017, 10:17 PM
Embiid is owning Drummond tonight.

I saw Embiids comment to about Drummond not being a shooter or can't shoot the ball lol

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:31 PM
RoCo gets railroaded by Kennard and no call. SMH.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:36 PM
Wow refs are screwing this game right now.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:38 PM
Wow. They give Simmons a flagrant 1 when Johnson is all up in his grill and Simmons has no where to go.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:42 PM
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Yeeesh. I get it but come on. There has to be some penalty for crowing a guy with the ball that much.

tredigs
12-02-2017, 10:42 PM
Pretty pathetic that the Cavs are not blowing the Grizz out tonight. They're on a b2b and a road/home/road stint against San Antonio into Cleveland. This should have been a 20+ point win.

tredigs
12-02-2017, 10:44 PM
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Yeeesh. I get it but come on. There has to be some penalty for crowing a guy with the ball that much.

? Simmons could have so easily just passed it off to Saric there. He has a big height advantage and clearly went in on Johnson's face intentionally.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:45 PM
? Simmons could have so easily just passed it off to Saric there. He has a big height advantage and clearly went in on Johnson's face intentionally.

Oh you mean pass it off to the guy WHOS STILL OUT OF BOUNDS?!?

tredigs
12-02-2017, 10:48 PM
Oh you mean pass it off to the guy WHOS STILL OUT OF BOUNDS?!?

The guy who was a half second from being IN BOUNDS?!@?!?!?@?@!?@!@!?. Yes, him.

It was a blatant cheap shot by Simmons and completely uncalled for in that instance. You're mad that the guy was guarding him? Stop it.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:55 PM
I would have been fine with it being a foul. But it was called a flagrant 1. There some reasonable amount of space that the ball carrier gets.

And half a second from being in bounds is the difference between a turn over and a possible window.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 10:56 PM
Embiid got Drummond to foul out.

tredigs
12-02-2017, 10:58 PM
I would have been fine with it being a foul. But it was called a flagrant 1. There some reasonable amount of space that the ball carrier gets.

And half a second from being in bounds is the difference between a turn over and a possible window.

No, you're wrong. Just stop this nonsense. He could have easily waited half a second (or drawn a foul, he was not in trouble) to pass the ball. He had a huge length advantage and was not even in trouble. He clearly went in on Johnson's face on purpose. It was excessive and an obvious Flagrant 1. Moving on.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 11:07 PM
Embiid and Drummond is going to be such a fun rivalry for a long time.

FlashBolt
12-02-2017, 11:27 PM
Joel will probably troll Drummond again but I would say Drummond had a better game.

Scoots
12-02-2017, 11:33 PM
No, you're wrong. Just stop this nonsense. He could have easily waited half a second (or drawn a foul, he was not in trouble) to pass the ball. He had a huge length advantage and was not even in trouble. He clearly went in on Johnson's face on purpose. It was excessive and an obvious Flagrant 1. Moving on.

half a second is a long time.

Scoots
12-02-2017, 11:34 PM
It's what I've been saying ... any contact to the face is a flagrant it seems.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 11:38 PM
It's what I've been saying ... any contact to the face is a flagrant it seems.

Yup. Like I said. I get why they called it. Just thought it was weak based on how close Johnson was. The only place Ben had to go without risking turnover is up and that always potentially brings in arm/elbow to head contact possibilities.

tredigs
12-02-2017, 11:41 PM
half a second is a long time.

Oh agreed. Which is why if you have to hold onto the ball for any duration you should just look to hit the nearest man in front of you in their face rather than look to draw a foul, make a pass or call a timeout. Definitely act aghast when this is called a flagrant, also. Because who was he to play defense??

warfelg
12-02-2017, 11:43 PM
Joel will probably troll Drummond again but I would say Drummond had a better game.

Amazing to think we look at 25/10 as being a “bad” game in relation to 14/11 with a foul out. Not saying that Drummond didn’t have the better game. It was two good games. JoJo could have had a few less shots and a few assists if he weren’t taking this matchup so personal. I’ve noticed he does that at times and puts personal grudge over team. Most days it works to our benefit (LAL, both Det games) and sometimes it backfires (Bost game).

tredigs
12-02-2017, 11:48 PM
Amazing to think we look at 25/10 as being a “bad” game in relation to 14/11 with a foul out. Not saying that Drummond didn’t have the better game. It was two good games. JoJo could have had a few less shots and a few assists if he weren’t taking this matchup so personal. I’ve noticed he does that at times and puts personal grudge over team. Most days it works to our benefit (LAL, both Det games) and sometimes it backfires (Bost game).

The 33 percent from the field and 0 assists to 6 Turnovers with 1 steal and 0 blocks would be the "bad" in Embiid's effort. In comparison Drummond had 6 assists, 5 steals and a block with 1 turnover.

I did not watch the full game though (or any of the first 3 quarters), so I'm just checking the stats based on your cherry-picked stats. Also nobody said Joel's game was bad besides you just now did they?

zn23
12-02-2017, 11:49 PM
Lebron "MVP" James

tredigs
12-02-2017, 11:50 PM
Oh wow The Bucks are in danger of blowing what was a blowout. 3 point game with FT's for Sac now.

tredigs
12-02-2017, 11:54 PM
The Freak's prevail. Clutch FT's from Giannis.

warfelg
12-02-2017, 11:56 PM
The 33 percent from the field and 0 assists to 6 Turnovers with 1 steal and 0 blocks would be the "bad" in Embiid's effort. In comparison Drummond had 6 assists, 5 steals and a block with 1 turnover.

I did not watch the full game though (or any of the first 3 quarters), so I'm just checking the stats based on your cherry-picked stats. Also nobody said Joel's game was bad besides you just now did they?

Hence using the quote around bad because it was in comparison to Drummond.

And Embiid has an effect defensively that didn’t show up in the stat sheet. Detroit settled for a lot of jumpers in the paint because Embiid was looming. Hurt his stats but helped us win.

But feel free to comment nor without watching

FlashBolt
12-02-2017, 11:57 PM
Amazing to think we look at 25/10 as being a “bad” game in relation to 14/11 with a foul out. Not saying that Drummond didn’t have the better game. It was two good games. JoJo could have had a few less shots and a few assists if he weren’t taking this matchup so personal. I’ve noticed he does that at times and puts personal grudge over team. Most days it works to our benefit (LAL, both Det games) and sometimes it backfires (Bost game).

7/21 isn't a good stat. Also, lots of turnovers.
14/11/6 with 5 steals for Drummond.

Drummond +/- 8 vs Embiid 1.

Drummond had a more efficient game. Granted, they're two completely different players in terms of offense but Drummond definitely had a better game.

warfelg
12-03-2017, 12:00 AM
7/21 isn't a good stat. Also, lots of turnovers.
14/11/6 with 5 steals for Drummond.

Drummond +/- 8 vs Embiid 1.

Drummond had a more efficient game. Granted, they're two completely different players in terms of offense but Drummond definitely had a better game.

Which I said in the second sentence.

Both guys had a big impact for their terms. Just not often 25/10 would be the lesser of two games in a matchup.

tredigs
12-03-2017, 12:03 AM
Hence using the quote around bad because it was in comparison to Drummond.

And Embiid has an effect defensively that didn’t show up in the stat sheet. Detroit settled for a lot of jumpers in the paint because Embiid was looming. Hurt his stats but helped us win.

But feel free to comment nor without watching
I just told you I did not watch and was simply commenting on your poor use of the stats? You should have included that rather than just cherry-picking the only #'s that favored your guy rather than excluding precisely what stats indicated who had the better game (I get it, you're a homer but let's not play dumb here). Also, you were going for "lesser", not "bad". There is a big difference.


Which I said in the second sentence.

Both guys had a big impact for their terms. Just not often 25/10 would be the lesser of two games in a matchup.

25 is not a good thing if it comes on more than 25 offensive possessions (which it did), especially when it includes 0 assists. It's actually a negative. Point totals mean nothing when you exclude what the efficiency was at the bear minimum.

warfelg
12-03-2017, 12:09 AM
Holy **** in no way was I trying to imply Embiid had a great game or anything.

Just not often you see 25/10 and know it wasn’t the better of the two games.

For a team that saw RoCo go 4/31 and JJ go 5/28 from 3 in the last week 7/21 shooting doesn’t bother us especially when we know this is far between for Embiid and we WON.

tredigs
12-03-2017, 12:15 AM
25/10 is a dime a dozen in the modern NBA. I see DMC do it every single night (efficiently with assists to boot) and is very often walking away as a 2nd fiddle.

tp13baby
12-03-2017, 01:01 AM
Why even play Ball late in games. He doesn’t scare anyone shooting the ball and his defense is poor.

tredigs
12-03-2017, 01:10 AM
Why even play Ball late in games. He doesn’t scare anyone shooting the ball and his defense is poor.

They're not a playoff team and it's good experience.

More-Than-Most
12-03-2017, 01:37 AM
The 33 percent from the field and 0 assists to 6 Turnovers with 1 steal and 0 blocks would be the "bad" in Embiid's effort. In comparison Drummond had 6 assists, 5 steals and a block with 1 turnover.

I did not watch the full game though (or any of the first 3 quarters), so I'm just checking the stats based on your cherry-picked stats. Also nobody said Joel's game was bad besides you just now did they?

drummond also was never doubled... embiid was doubled damn near everytime he touched the rock and we were sputtering in the 2nd half so he had to force it to keep us afloat.. His defense alone in this game is why he is a god. Pistons were nailing jumpers because they were scared to go in or near the paint with him in there. Not embiids best game of course but again GOD.

More-Than-Most
12-03-2017, 01:38 AM
They're not a playoff team and it's good experience.

constantly being terrible and the reason the team loses is good experience??? they win these games if he is on the bench and that winning helps ingram/kuzma much much much more.

More-Than-Most
12-03-2017, 02:34 AM
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he appears like magic lol

FlashBolt
12-03-2017, 03:50 AM
Holy **** in no way was I trying to imply Embiid had a great game or anything.

Just not often you see 25/10 and know it wasn’t the better of the two games.

For a team that saw RoCo go 4/31 and JJ go 5/28 from 3 in the last week 7/21 shooting doesn’t bother us especially when we know this is far between for Embiid and we WON.

25/10 when you shoot 33% is different from 25/10 shooting 50% from the field. Not sure what we're really talking about here. It's bad and they won. That's how the NBA works sometimes.

ewing
12-03-2017, 08:25 AM
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he appears like magic lol

I like him but that one was kind of douchy. I didn’t think it was foul, no need to show him up there


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PurpleLynch
12-03-2017, 08:45 AM
constantly being terrible and the reason the team loses is good experience??? they win these games if he is on the bench and that winning helps ingram/kuzma much much much more.

It's simply not the truth. Why are you so adamant when you say your opinions, it just lower the credibility posters have of you. You painted D'Angelo Russell, when he was drafted, as the second coming of Magic Johnson mixed with Curry shooting ability . You were extremely wrong, as you can see.

First, it's a rookie year, just wait till he's three years in the league to make some real judgements.

Second, he has glaring weaknesses that a player with good work ethic could overcome.The the big question mark is, can he work enough to improve his shooting and scoring ability overall in these future years? Idk the answer to that, but he has years to improve in that department.

Another question mark is his father. Is he a bad influence on him or not? Could this create problems during his career?

Ingram and Kuzma just have to play at their best, winning or losing. This is a new team, with a young and almost unproven coach. We'll need time and Ball has his rights to have his to show how can he help us returning relevant in the WC.

warfelg
12-03-2017, 08:52 AM
25/10 when you shoot 33% is different from 25/10 shooting 50% from the field. Not sure what we're really talking about here. It's bad and they won. That's how the NBA works sometimes.

Talking about the same thing I said about 5 times. Not often you see “25/10” and say he got outplayed by “14/11”.

I left out the other stuff because it explains why the 14/11 was better.

Just really a simple statement.

FlashBolt
12-03-2017, 11:26 AM
Talking about the same thing I said about 5 times. Not often you see “25/10” and say he got outplayed by “14/11”.

I left out the other stuff because it explains why the 14/11 was better.

Just really a simple statement.

Well, you made it seem as if 25/10 was done efficiently in your original post. "Both had good games." Well, not really. Drummond had a good game but Embiid shot 33% from the floor and had many turnovers. It wasn't his best game and would rank as a bad one, tbh.

warfelg
12-03-2017, 12:07 PM
Well, you made it seem as if 25/10 was done efficiently in your original post. "Both had good games." Well, not really. Drummond had a good game but Embiid shot 33% from the floor and had many turnovers. It wasn't his best game and would rank as a bad one, tbh.

11/12 from the line, drew some critical fouls down the stretch. We've seen far worse from Embiid which is why it's "bad". And if you though I made it seem that the 25/10 was done efficiently isn't that on you for assuming that and not on me for just saying 25/10?

Hence what my point was.

Not often you look at 25/10 and say he was outplayed by a 14/11.

That's literally all I was trying to say.

As Embiid said when asked who won the Embiid v Drummond match up: "The Sixers"

FlashBolt
12-03-2017, 02:03 PM
11/12 from the line, drew some critical fouls down the stretch. We've seen far worse from Embiid which is why it's "bad". And if you though I made it seem that the 25/10 was done efficiently isn't that on you for assuming that and not on me for just saying 25/10?

Hence what my point was.

Not often you look at 25/10 and say he was outplayed by a 14/11.

That's literally all I was trying to say.

As Embiid said when asked who won the Embiid v Drummond match up: "The Sixers"

Not really because there was no need to bring up 25/10. He was outplayed. You tried to make it seem as if they both had good games. Read your comment. No comment about the 33% FG%. And plenty of players have averaged 25/10. Cousins does that and more every night and gets called a team killer.

Scoots
12-03-2017, 02:40 PM
It's simply not the truth. Why are you so adamant when you say your opinions, it just lower the credibility posters have of you.

Unfortunately that's an issue several of our most prominent posters have.

lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:11 PM
Just tuned in. How are the Heatles doing?

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:12 PM
Pretty pathetic that the Cavs are not blowing the Grizz out tonight. They're on a b2b and a road/home/road stint against San Antonio into Cleveland. This should have been a 20+ point win.At some point, the Cavaliers will stop surprising you lol

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FlashBolt
12-03-2017, 08:14 PM
If we lose tonight then I am no longer an OKC fan. I cannot tolerate this anymore!

lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:18 PM
Klay has been playing really well lately. He must have read tredigs rants :laugh2:

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FlashBolt
12-03-2017, 08:30 PM
Hassan Whiteside injured again.. difficult to put money into guys like him. Lingering injury problems. Dude has already missed 30% of the season. He shouldn't be making fun of Embiid anymore.

lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:31 PM
Good game in Miami so far.

Fun watching Curry and Dragic go at it.

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:38 PM
Love the ball movement there.

Durant is colder than a witches tittie. Heat hitting everything. Sad Wade03 isn't hyping them up anymore.

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kdspurman
12-03-2017, 08:40 PM
If we lose tonight then I am no longer an OKC fan. I cannot tolerate this anymore!

Highly doubtful lol

lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:43 PM
Highly doubtful lolYea, read that and saw they are playing the Spurs, like are you serious, you're playing a top team in the league, and the Thunder have yet to figure it out, of course you might lose

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FlashBolt
12-03-2017, 08:47 PM
Yea, read that and saw they are playing the Spurs, like are you serious, you're playing a top team in the league, and the Thunder have yet to figure it out, of course you might lose

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Pop is resting Aldridge, Gay, and parker.

lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:54 PM
Spoelstra has no answer for King Klay

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 08:57 PM
Livingston ejected, so we get more of Swaggy P.

#Depth

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 09:01 PM
Pop is resting Aldridge, Gay, and parker.Makes more sense now

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 09:01 PM
The top 3 best mid range jump shooters this season are Curry, Durant, and Klay

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 09:35 PM
Curry owns Dragic lol

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lol, please
12-03-2017, 09:48 PM
Bell continues to impress. Great block there.

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kdspurman
12-03-2017, 10:05 PM
Idk how we've stayed in this game

lol, please
12-03-2017, 10:06 PM
Nick going off! Where's Lakers + Giants?

:worthy:

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kdspurman
12-03-2017, 10:30 PM
Officiating has been poor to close this game, but the fact that it was winnable was a positive. I like the match up vs OKC more than I did during the Durant/WB years

WaDe03
12-03-2017, 10:37 PM
Refs screwed the Spurs at the end, that was bad.

kdspurman
12-03-2017, 10:39 PM
Refs screwed the Spurs at the end, that was bad.

It's kinda crazy it even came to that, but yea. We hurt ourselves plenty that game (literally lol) but the officiating didn't help that last minute or 2

It's the kind of game that'll be important big picture for some of these guys

lol, please
12-03-2017, 11:17 PM
Officiating has been poor to close this game, but the fact that it was winnable was a positive. I like the match up vs OKC more than I did during the Durant/WB yearsWhy do you think you matchup better now?

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kdspurman
12-03-2017, 11:35 PM
Why do you think you matchup better now?

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Cause PG isn't Durant.. also Kanter was a headache for us at times

mightybosstone
12-03-2017, 11:48 PM
This has been my first chance to watch Ball against the Rockets. Color me unimpressed. Ingram, Kuzma and Nance aren't half bad, though. There's definitely some quality young talent on that roster, but I'm not sure that I consider Ball part of it.

LaVar Ball
12-03-2017, 11:53 PM
Future Western Conference Champions giving the Lakers an ***-whooping!