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kdspurman
10-19-2017, 04:12 PM
Thursday October 19th, 2017




Bulls @ Raptors
7:30PM


Knicks @ Thunder
8:00PM
TNT


Clippers @ Lakers
10:30PM
TNT

warfelg
10-19-2017, 05:12 PM
Gonna be watching that Clips v Lakers game like a hawk. Welcome to the show rook. As a reward you get one of the best defensive PG's in your grill game 1.

FlashBolt
10-19-2017, 05:24 PM
Gonna be watching that Clips v Lakers game like a hawk. Welcome to the show rook. As a reward you get one of the best defensive PG's in your grill game 1.


They should sign Lavar for the day and make him guard Blake..

warfelg
10-19-2017, 05:58 PM
They should sign Lavar for the day and make him guard Blake..

I bet he would wear rec specs, short shorts, and have the athletic briefs poking out from under them with knee high tube socks.

ewing
10-19-2017, 06:59 PM
Melo under/over 40?

warfelg
10-19-2017, 07:23 PM
Melo under/over 40?

Under. Easily.

I wonder how much him, PG13, and Westy even need to play in the 4th TBH.

I would take the over in an o/u at 30 for Porz though.

ewing
10-19-2017, 08:17 PM
Under. Easily.

I wonder how much him, PG13, and Westy even need to play in the 4th TBH.

I would take the over in an o/u at 30 for Porz though.

Idk they are going to be feeding Melo. You are right if they bust it open he they wonít get big mins though


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WaDe03
10-19-2017, 08:33 PM
PG might get 40 and steal the show in Melos revenge game lol.

Lakers + Giants
10-19-2017, 08:34 PM
Gonna be watching that Clips v Lakers game like a hawk. Welcome to the show rook. As a reward you get one of the best defensive PG's in your grill game 1.

Facing an All Defensive 1st Teamer. Doesn't get much tougher than that. I'm excited. Expecting a bad game from him tbh but I want to see if he can create for his teammates at this level vs good defenders, this game will definitely test that.

His shot obviously won't improve overnight, so he has the whole season to work on that. Lets get this **** underway!

Lakers + Giants
10-19-2017, 08:35 PM
MTM, I ask kindly in advance that you don't ****in excessively criticize after 1 ****in game, please and thank you. :laugh2:

warfelg
10-19-2017, 08:45 PM
MTM, I ask kindly in advance that you don't ****in excessively criticize after 1 ****in game, please and thank you. :laugh2:

Sweet I get to do it instead.

cxres
10-19-2017, 08:49 PM
Lol @ Melo so far. Porzee got that look. Thunder look like PGs team right now.


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tredigs
10-19-2017, 08:55 PM
OKC just looks so confused out there. That combo of talent is garbage together.

#1st Q reactions.

DanG
10-19-2017, 09:09 PM
lol the Raptors Bulls game has a scrimmage feel to it.

tredigs
10-19-2017, 09:11 PM
lol the Raptors Bulls game has a scrimmage feel to it.

Ditto OKC. Like a really really bad All Star game. Porzingis is the one redeeming factor of the game so far.

zn23
10-19-2017, 09:16 PM
Love the way Porzingis is playing.

ewing
10-19-2017, 09:17 PM
KP is the best young player in the NBA


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ewing
10-19-2017, 09:20 PM
Russel Westbrook going full speed is the scariest thing in the nba


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tredigs
10-19-2017, 09:28 PM
PG and Melo have Westbrook looking like the picture of efficiency. Knicks are so ****ing bad outside of Porz lol. I hope he finds greener pastures; Deserves so much better than Dolan.

AllBall
10-19-2017, 09:44 PM
Man I'm so happy to be watching NBA on TNT. :)

ewing
10-19-2017, 09:45 PM
Kanter is the biggest black hole ever


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ewing
10-19-2017, 09:46 PM
PG and Melo have Westbrook looking like the picture of efficiency. Knicks are so ****ing bad outside of Porz lol. I hope he finds greener pastures; Deserves so much better than Dolan.

I like hardaway. Dude has great elevation and a quick release on that j


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ewing
10-19-2017, 10:19 PM
I havenít seen someone get exposed for having no handle like Ron Baker tonight. I think Melo told them to attack him


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Aust
10-19-2017, 10:25 PM
Gonna be watching that Clips v Lakers game like a hawk. Welcome to the show rook. As a reward you get one of the best defensive PG's in your grill game 1.

lol why

tredigs
10-19-2017, 10:38 PM
I like hardaway. Dude has great elevation and a quick release on that j


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Fun to watch sometimes but his ceiling is prob as a decent scoring punch as a 6th man. Knicks look like a 20 win team this year.

tredigs
10-19-2017, 10:46 PM
Carmelo played 34 minutes and was a +1 in a 21 point win. Seems about right.

tredigs
10-19-2017, 10:49 PM
Gonna see some amazing passing tonight between Tedosic and Ball.

tredigs
10-19-2017, 11:01 PM
Bev is trying to get all agro and in the rooks head but Ball's already too smart for that. Baiting him into 2 personals in 5 minutes. Heady kid.

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:13 PM
Blake just yammed on Randle. Wow

FlashBolt
10-19-2017, 11:16 PM
yo wtf? andrew bogut looks like he's 70 years old out there..

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:20 PM
Bogut sucks. Block hands

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:28 PM
I wish we had Beverley as our point guard

WaDe03
10-19-2017, 11:29 PM
Chris Webber would **** Lonzo.

FlashBolt
10-19-2017, 11:33 PM
Ingram looks like total dump. Wow, I am disappointed. Had an entire offseason to prepare his body but he's still thinner than twigs. Playing way too many forced shots. The bullying on Lonzo was hilarious. He's definitely bothered by it.

FlashBolt
10-19-2017, 11:34 PM
I wish we had Beverley as our point guard

He's like a better version of Delly. I like him.

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:34 PM
Anyone else think that Ingram looks ordinary? I'm not seeing what's so special about him.

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:40 PM
Blake + DJ + Bev are abusing those kids.

Gallo is bricking 3's, or this could be a 20+ point blowout.

Lakers + Giants
10-19-2017, 11:41 PM
Blake legit having the game of his career. **** this BS

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:42 PM
Lights too bright for Lonzo or something. Takes him nearly one half of b-ball to make a shot. Does he even have any assists yet? All I saw was iso ball by the likes of Ingram, Deng, Lopez and *shudders* Nance. No ball movement, shot clock cheese, the works. Horrible defense. Year looks guh-reat. Did they even practice before this game? :facepalm:

Lonzo just appears to be playing within the flow of the offense. He's not trying to be aggressive or assert any kind of pressure on the defense.

kobe4thewinbang
10-19-2017, 11:42 PM
Lights too bright for Lonzo or something. Takes him nearly one half of b-ball to make a shot. Does he even have any assists yet? All I saw was iso ball by the likes of Ingram, Deng, Lopez and *shudders* Nance. No ball movement, shot clock cheese, the works. Horrible defense. Year looks guh-reat. Did they even practice before this game? :facepalm:

kobe4thewinbang
10-19-2017, 11:45 PM
Lonzo just appears to be playing within the flow of the offense. He's not trying to be aggressive or assert any kind of pressure on the defense.He knows it's his show, don't he? That he's the point guard? He's got 4 baby black holes around him, with the exception of maybe Lopez in the paint. For him to not even have any aggression or assists at halftime is downright horrible.

Lakers + Giants
10-19-2017, 11:47 PM
One positive: Ball can ****in rebound for a PG. Wow.

kobe4thewinbang
10-19-2017, 11:48 PM
Walton with some questionable lineup choices so far. Can't blame Lonzo too much. When you got Brewer and Lopez out there, there's barely any oil in the pan. He needs guys that space the floor and can play Warriors-like up-tempo ball.

Lakers + Giants
10-19-2017, 11:49 PM
Brook Lopez 2 Rebounds

Lonzo 8 Rebounds

:laugh2:

Teeboy1487
10-19-2017, 11:53 PM
I'm not going to lie, the Lakers are pure garbage :(. Lonzo has to develop a pick and roll game. He is so green. Ingram has no go to moves. It's like he does not know how to play basketball. Those guys are not ready. The Lakers lack talent.

Vee-Rex
10-19-2017, 11:56 PM
He knows it's his show, don't he? That he's the point guard? He's got 4 baby black holes around him, with the exception of maybe Lopez in the paint. For him to not even have any aggression or assists at halftime is downright horrible.

He showed some nice bursts of speed in transition.

Idk, it has only been one half. Can't really fault him much for trying to get a feel for the game. Not to mention he's being hounded by one of the best perimeter defenders in Beverley.

tredigs
10-19-2017, 11:57 PM
Just not seeing what people see in Ingram as having superstar potential. I get that he's young and has an interesting frame + athleticism, but his game just has too far to come.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:00 AM
One positive: Ball can ****in rebound for a PG. Wow.

And really engaged defensively to my surprise. He'll never look too amazing while playing with this current lineup, but this kid is going to be very real. Sucks he can't hit FT's though.

Vee-Rex
10-20-2017, 12:07 AM
Ingram needs to start taking whatever PEDs Giannis started taking after his rookie season.

Lakers + Giants
10-20-2017, 12:09 AM
And really engaged defensively to my surprise. He'll never look too amazing while playing with this current lineup, but this kid is going to be very real. Sucks he can't hit FT's though.

Agreed.

And yea tbh Ingram looks like *** just like last year.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:09 AM
Thought I didn't see him, looked it up to be sure.

Why is Kentavius Caldwell-Pope not playing? Is he hurt?

He's another vet that would be able to help Lonzo out there. Damn Lopez chucked up 15 shots already. Clarkson with 12.

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 12:10 AM
lakers are bad but the clippers honestly look like they wont be a 500 team this year... like who do they have??

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:10 AM
And why only 8 minutes for Randle so far? Just really odd choices here. Nance with 19 minutes, smh.

Vee-Rex
10-20-2017, 12:12 AM
Man I love Teodosic's game. Clippers might be better than expected this year.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:12 AM
Blake's just doing whatever he wants right now. Looks great this year.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:15 AM
17 shots for Lopez...yeesh. Does anybody even take seventeen shots with him in 2K?

:confused:

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:15 AM
lakers are bad but the clippers honestly look like they wont be a 500 team this year... like who do they have??

A borderline top 10 player, a top 5 center, and an interesting passing/defending PG/G combo with Teodic and Bev. Also, Gallo until he gets hurt. That's a good starting lineup. I can see them pushing 47-50.

canzano55
10-20-2017, 12:16 AM
I don't understand Ball's game...other than throwing the ball across the court what else does he do?

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:17 AM
I don't understand Ball's game...other than throwing the ball across the court what else does he do?Well, in Summer League, he was actually being an active distributor, making great plays with court vision. Dunno if he couldn't find his contracts tonight, or what. But he looks lost out there. He does the Kevin Love up-court heave, or has just run the ball up the court and made one pass, to a player that goes ISO and shoots or passes to another Laker that isn't Lonzo.

Just really odd compared to what I saw in pre-season and SL.

He was finding open guys for corner 3s, wing 3s, his own shot, driving and dishing, or driving aggressively.

Not tonight.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:20 AM
I don't understand Ball's game...other than throwing the ball across the court what else does he do?

Wait 'til he gets players to pass to, or at least until the Lakers find a little rhythm with this unit. Great playmaker, very good rebounder, and potentially deadly 3 ball. The rest is wait 'n see.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:20 AM
22 mins for Nance. Is Walton high? Kuzma with only 9 minutes.

Did he just give up?

Definition of insanity, keeping the same guys out there and expecting something different.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:23 AM
Ingram 2 of 11... :hide:

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:27 AM
Griffin with 27 points, not even the 4th quarter yet. Nance is doing a greaaaat job out there.

:horse:

Lakers + Giants
10-20-2017, 12:30 AM
Im already over Ingram. trade everyone but Ball

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 12:30 AM
Blake is great but I can't trust him with his health and MIA status in the playoffs.

Ingram sucks. He talks about improving but his game shows otherwise. Does he have any plays he feels comfortable with or does he just dribble and settle for whatever he gets? Ball is obviously nervous out there. Nothing too impressive. Kuzma is overrated. You guys read too much from that preseason.

I really liked Ingram's potential but he needs to stop hanging with Wiz Khalifa and get to the gym. Dude is all bones out there looking like a frickin skeleton.

Teeboy1487
10-20-2017, 12:33 AM
I keep hearing some of my fellow Laker fans say Ingram looks like Wesley Johnson. I'm like damn, Wesley Johnson is at least getting buckets right now. Ingram needs to go to the G league. He doesn't look like he belongs in the NBA.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:36 AM
Dennis Smith Jr dropped 10 assists in a tough loss for the Mavericks.

Lonzo's got...*hold on, let me look* ...four.

:cricket:

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:41 AM
~23 wins for the Lakers this year.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:41 AM
65 points...this shaping up to be worse than that Suns game.

canzano55
10-20-2017, 12:43 AM
Wait 'til he gets players to pass to, or at least until the Lakers find a little rhythm with this unit. Great playmaker, very good rebounder, and potentially deadly 3 ball. The rest is wait 'n see.

Potentially deadly 3 ball? Based on what?

From what I've seen on UCLA leading up to now is a guy with a rather high bball IQ for his age and some interesting intangibles but soo far away from what a 21st century point guard should look like. Playmaking is nice but when you're that slow and athletically akward - as a point guard of all positions - I just don't see how that's going to last in the modern NBA.

I genuinely hope the best for him because I rather like high IQ players that share the ball well but another part of me cant' believe he went second in the draft.

I guess wel'll just have to wait and see.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:46 AM
Potentially deadly 3 ball? Based on what?

From what I've seen on UCLA leading up to now is a guy with a rather high bball IQ for his age and some interesting intangibles but soo far away from what a 21st century point guard should look like. Playmaking is nice but when you're that slow and athletically akward - as a point guard of all positions - I just don't see how that's going to last in the modern NBA.

I genuinely hope the best for him because I rather like high IQ players that share the ball well but another part of me cant' believe he went second in the draft.

I guess wel'll just have to wait and see.

Based on his high volume of 3's on elite efficiency in college? He was off today for sure, but the Lakers in general just looked like ****. He's not going to look anywhere near his best unless his teammates know what they're doing as well. Guys like Ingram, Randle and Lopez are not good complements for him, but I'm confident he will still show us some special stuff this year.

basch152
10-20-2017, 12:47 AM
A borderline top 10 player, a top 5 center, and an interesting passing/defending PG/G combo with Teodic and Bev. Also, Gallo until he gets hurt. That's a good starting lineup. I can see them pushing 47-50.

wait, is griffen supposed to be a borderline top 10 player? lol.

goingfor28
10-20-2017, 12:48 AM
Glad to see nothing had changed in Laker land. The team is still God awful.

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FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 12:48 AM
Dennis Smith Jr dropped 10 assists in a tough loss for the Mavericks.

Lonzo's got...*hold on, let me look* ...four.

:cricket:

I'll give Ball a pass. It's his first game and Beverley is someone you don't want to play with. It seems Clippers entire roster was bullying Ball and he wasn't ready for it. Give it time. Ingram on the other hand knew what to expect and all he does is dribble and take some stupid shot. At this point, they should just send Ingram to the D-League and give all his minutes to Corey Brewer.

goingfor28
10-20-2017, 12:49 AM
And Ball is trash

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FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 12:50 AM
wait, is griffen supposed to be a borderline top 10 player? lol.

When healthy, you can make a case that he is. I mean, Griffin was a top five player in most lists just a few years ago. Injuries and a lack of playoff performances is really what pulls his ranking back. He's definitely a top 5 PF easily if healthy.

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 12:51 AM
Any chance Lakers trade Ingram soon? Better do so before he looks even worse. Ship him and Luol Deng for a box of donuts?

goingfor28
10-20-2017, 12:51 AM
Someone needs to get Lonzo some acne cream

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kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 12:51 AM
The real question is how the Lakers will react to this game. Try to give themselves groupthink and say "well we struggled tonight" or will Lonzo actually wake the **** up and be like "what's wrong with y'all? What's wrong with me? Coach, what were you thinking? We gonna seriously do this for 81 more games? Fans gonna want they tickets back. And my dad will disown me."

Meanwhile, daddy be like "MY KID PLAYED GREAT TONIGHT!"

goingfor28
10-20-2017, 12:51 AM
And a hair cut

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tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:52 AM
wait, is griffen supposed to be a borderline top 10 player? lol.

I've seen your comments on other players already so I'll take your comment with a grain of salt, but yes, Blake is. Especially when healthy. This site just voted KAT as the #10. I'm supposed to believe there is a large gap between those two? Blake is better when at full strength, and that's how he is looking for now.

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 12:52 AM
blake is dating kendall jenner. damn, that must hurt for her

goingfor28
10-20-2017, 12:55 AM
25 boards for DJ. Not bad at all.

And leading the league in FT shooting lol

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canzano55
10-20-2017, 12:57 AM
Based on his high volume of 3's on elite efficiency in college? He only attempted 5 threes a game at UCLA?? I guess you can call it efficient but he wasn't shooting anyone's lights out.

By comparison JJ Reddick shot the ball 7 times a game in his rookie season at Duke. In his senior year he attempted 9 threes a game and shot well over .400

There's a lot of "hoping" with Ball I find and less about fact-based optimism.

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 01:00 AM
He only attempted 5 threes a game at UCLA?? I guess you can call it efficient but he wasn't shooting anyone's lights out.

By comparison JJ Reddick shot the ball 7 times a game in his rookie season at Duke. In his senior year he attempted 9 threes a game and shot well over .400

There's a lot of "hoping" with Ball I find and less about fact-based optimism.

He's 19, is a smart player, can pass, is unselfish, decent defense, and can rebound. The Clippers obviously had it in for Lonzo as soon as the game started. Unfair to judge a guy playing in his first season. I mean, was CP3's first game really that much better than Lonzo?

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 01:03 AM
And really engaged defensively to my surprise. He'll never look too amazing while playing with this current lineup, but this kid is going to be very real. Sucks he can't hit FT's though.

where? even the announcers said his defense needs a ton of work... he is out there working his *** of though and playing with more fire than any other laker but he was literally one of the worst defenders on the floor.

As far as ingram... i dont care... like DLO I will always be a believer in ingram.

JAZZNC
10-20-2017, 01:04 AM
I've seen your comments on other players already so I'll take your comment with a grain of salt, but yes, Blake is. Especially when healthy. This site just voted KAT as the #10. I'm supposed to believe there is a large gap between those two? Blake is better when at full strength, and that's how he is looking for now.

Besides Green there isn't a better play maker at PF than Griffin and I think this year he is going to show out without Paul dominating the ball. The Clips are an interesting team. There are some really interesting teams to me in the West this year with the Clips, Jazz, and Nuggets being the most intriguing. Just excited to see how the Jazz losing their best offensive player, Clips without Paul and it being Blake's team, and the Nuggets adding Vet talent in Millsap and actually having expectations.

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 01:05 AM
He's 19, is a smart player, can pass, is unselfish, decent defense, and can rebound. The Clippers obviously had it in for Lonzo as soon as the game started. Unfair to judge a guy playing in his first season. I mean, was CP3's first game really that much better than Lonzo?

shouldnt judge anyone after 1 game lol. Ball played bad... it wont be the last time but its just 1 game lol. Reddit is going Ham on him... Not a ball guy but damn... 1 game./

canzano55
10-20-2017, 01:05 AM
He's 19, is a smart player, can pass, is unselfish, decent defense, and can rebound. The Clippers obviously had it in for Lonzo as soon as the game started. Unfair to judge a guy playing in his first season. I mean, was CP3's first game really that much better than Lonzo?

He's second pick in one of the greatest drafts we've seen in over a decade. Maybe there's something I'm missing that everyone else can see...I'm genuinely perplexed by the whole thing.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 01:08 AM
He only attempted 5 threes a game at UCLA?? I guess you can call it efficient but he wasn't shooting anyone's lights out.

By comparison JJ Reddick shot the ball 7 times a game in his rookie season at Duke. In his senior year he attempted 9 threes a game and shot well over .400

There's a lot of "hoping" with Ball I find and less about fact-based optimism.

Lol? There's nothing light about attempting 5.4 attempts a game and averaging over 41% on them. That's fantastic 3pt shooting. Not sure what you're trying to prove by reciting the stats of one of the better 3pt shooters in NBA history lol. The stats you're looking for to try to make a (half) point there would be to show me a guy who shot >5 threes in college on >41% from 3 and had his 3 game flop in the NBA. Of course we could probably find 100 counter-examples for every 1 you have, but it would be a start.

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 01:09 AM
Besides Green there isn't a better play maker at PF than Griffin and I think this year he is going to show out without Paul dominating the ball. The Clips are an interesting team. There are some really interesting teams to me in the West this year with the Clips, Jazz, and Nuggets being the most intriguing. Just excited to see how the Jazz losing their best offensive player, Clips without Paul and it being Blake's team, and the Nuggets adding Vet talent in Millsap and actually having expectations.

I think Griffin slimmed down a bit. Looked quicker than he has before and jumps higher.

shouldnt judge anyone after 1 game lol. Ball played bad... it wont be the last time but its just 1 game lol. Reddit is going Ham on him... Not a ball guy but damn... 1 game./

yeah, but why are you so high on Ingram after one season still? Dude looks the same! i mean, jesus. Ben Simmons developed more than Ingram while being injured. It's amazing Ingram still doesn't understand the game. Every play is dribble between his legs, look up at the clock, and shoot a stupid jumper or floater. It's downright annoying watching a player of his capability not take advantage.

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 01:11 AM
He's second pick in one of the greatest drafts we've seen in over a decade. Maybe there's something I'm missing that everyone else can see...I'm genuinely perplexed by the whole thing.

we're all just guessing at this point but I do like what I see from Ball in terms of overall PG play. Clearly needs work. Still too raw offensively. Defensively, he seems like a really good team defender but he'll have trouble rotating because he's so thin. Needs to hit the gym and get to at least 200 - 210.

JAZZNC
10-20-2017, 01:12 AM
shouldnt judge anyone after 1 game lol. Ball played bad... it wont be the last time but its just 1 game lol. Reddit is going Ham on him... Not a ball guy but damn... 1 game./

But we can call Simmons a Godly God mode God beast after one game though right?

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 01:12 AM
I think Griffin slimmed down a bit. Looked quicker than he has before and jumps higher.


yeah, but why are you so high on Ingram after one season still? Dude looks the same! i mean, jesus. Ben Simmons developed more than Ingram while being injured. It's amazing Ingram still doesn't understand the game. Every play is dribble between his legs, look up at the clock, and shoot a stupid jumper or floater. It's downright annoying watching a player of his capability not take advantage.

I have a hard on for ingram and always have... his size/length and should be shooting and defense makes him special... Last year he was terrible... If he doesnt do something this year then the lakers better really try to move him or something... cant fail on Dlo/Ingram.

I will say this... the rest of the lakers should be ashamed... Ball was running all over even when they were down huge... other players gave up... that **** shouldnt fly yo.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 01:13 AM
where? even the announcers said his defense needs a ton of work... he is out there working his *** of though and playing with more fire than any other laker but he was literally one of the worst defenders on the floor.

As far as ingram... i dont care... like DLO I will always be a believer in ingram.

He was engaged defensively to start the game for sure (I stopped watching most of the 2nd half so maybe he fell off). Went after the hard block on DJ (though fouled him which was also a positive... tho' DJ actually made his FT's today), came from behind to block Griffin, and then was just sticking to Beverly pretty impressively. Nothing to write home about, but like I said, surprisingly engaged, which is what you want to see.

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 01:13 AM
But we can call Simmons a Godly God mode God beast after one game though right?

That is utter excitement and he did something like 1 other person did ever... Why do people think I am a simmons guy? Embiid yea... I think simmons will be special but he needs to grow a set and shoot.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 01:16 AM
Yo, for real, bring D'Angelo back. He had 5 assists to Lonzo's 4. And 30 points on 50+% shooting.

At least he'll shoot so the Brook Lopez's and Clarkson's of the world won't.

And WTF to Nance playing 30 minutes? I'mma lose my **** if that happens again.

Coach Walton, you need to get it together!

basch152
10-20-2017, 01:17 AM
I've seen your comments on other players already so I'll take your comment with a grain of salt, but yes, Blake is. Especially when healthy. This site just voted KAT as the #10. I'm supposed to believe there is a large gap between those two? Blake is better when at full strength, and that's how he is looking for now.

kat isn't top 10 either, and he's far better than Griffin.

Bostonjorge
10-20-2017, 01:26 AM
Ball had a tough matchup. In his first game ever, heís matched up against Beverly. 2017 all defensive 1st team Beverly. Thatís a tough matchup for any guard rookie ever.

canzano55
10-20-2017, 01:29 AM
Lol? There's nothing light about attempting 5.4 attempts a game and averaging over 41% on them. That's fantastic 3pt shooting. Not sure what you're trying to prove by reciting the stats of one of the better 3pt shooters in NBA history lol. The stats you're looking for to try to make a (half) point there would be to show me a guy who shot >5 threes in college on >41% from 3 and had his 3 game flop in the NBA. Of course we could probably find 100 counter-examples for every 1 you have, but it would be a start.

I bring up Reddick because when he was drafted I didn't have to wonder about his 3 point ability - he had a post-secondary body of work that was so complete; you knew what you were getting with a JJ Reddick behind the arc.

Conversely; Lonzo is a quagmire shooter with very akward mechanics and very little lift on his jumper. He made shots at a very reasonable efficiency but its equally possible that it was a one-off season. There's no grounded foundation in the way he shoots the ball that would suggest that a)he is a genuine three point threat at the NBA level and b)whether or not his NBA jump shot is good enough to make defenders fight through screens.

Three point shooting aside, there's so many question marks with this kid going forward. On the surface he looks like a sideshow-bob/pogostick who skirts around the court heaving passes at teamates. Below the surface I'm sure he has a lot going on than most 19 year old PG's but is this really the guy Lakers fans want to have as the centre piece of their rebuild?

I just saw my Raps play the Bulls earlier I can tell you with a straight face that Lauri Markkanen is an NBA player today. The Bulls roster is actually worse than LA (by a lot) but I don't have to wonder about whether or not Markkanen in going to be a star in this league. With Lonzo there's question marks all over the place.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 01:29 AM
kat isn't top 10 either, and he's far better than Griffin.

Lol OK buddy.

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 01:34 AM
honestly the lakers could and should have done a package with ingram/randle/clarkson etc for porz.

kobe4thewinbang
10-20-2017, 01:36 AM
honestly the lakers could and should have done a package with ingram/randle/clarkson etc for porz.:censored:

Teeboy1487
10-20-2017, 01:54 AM
Lakers need to reset. Another 5 years of tanking.

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 02:09 AM
Lakers get the suns tomorrow... they cant guard anyone lol... ball will put up a very good game tomorrow as will ingram... good 2nd game for the lakers in all honesty.

basch152
10-20-2017, 02:21 AM
I see what lavar meant, lonzo ball is totally better than curry right now.

Lakers + Giants
10-20-2017, 02:22 AM
Lakers get the suns tomorrow... they cant guard anyone lol... ball will put up a very good game tomorrow as will ingram... good 2nd game for the lakers in all honesty.

as a betting man, I bet the suns win.

goingfor28
10-20-2017, 02:44 AM
I see what lavar meant, lonzo ball is totally better than curry right now.Lol

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Sssmush
10-20-2017, 03:06 AM
Just watching him pound the ball like a yo yo for 20 seconds standing just inside the 3, while Westbrook and Pail George stand around and Adams fights for position in the key :laugh:

HandsOnTheWheel
10-20-2017, 03:22 AM
Welcome to Melo ball. Maybe that's why the triangle didn't work PJ?

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 03:41 AM
as a betting man, I bet the suns win.

lakers will be favored and rightfully so... the suns are that bad and Booker isnt actually that good. Hes good but nothing that screams special and the suns are really bad... Id be surprised if the suns win 15 plus games this year...

I honestly think the suns will be the worst team... followed by the bulls then maybe the nets/pacers and lakers... I have the lakers between 25-28 wins... the suns will be lucky to get 15.

Saddletramp
10-20-2017, 03:49 AM
He's like a better version of Delly. I like him.

Wow, how times change, lol.

eDush
10-20-2017, 04:40 AM
The real question is how the Lakers will react to this game. Try to give themselves groupthink and say "well we struggled tonight" or will Lonzo actually wake the **** up and be like "what's wrong with y'all? What's wrong with me? Coach, what were you thinking? We gonna seriously do this for 81 more games? Fans gonna want they tickets back. And my dad will disown me."

Meanwhile, daddy be like "MY KID PLAYED GREAT TONIGHT!"
It's how they responded on their first SL game by saying Ball is a bust then they say he is a next Magic after he was named the MVP of SL :laugh:

Lakers fans seems overly emotional from game to game with no patience like let's trade Ingram or they want DLo back by looking at their stats after the first game of the season :crazy:

Dubs fans are patience and don't care losing our first game :nod:

eDush
10-20-2017, 04:44 AM
as a betting man, I bet the suns win.

lakers will be favored and rightfully so... the suns are that bad and Booker isnt actually that good. Hes good but nothing that screams special and the suns are really bad... Id be surprised if the suns win 15 plus games this year...

I honestly think the suns will be the worst team... followed by the bulls then maybe the nets/pacers and lakers... I have the lakers between 25-28 wins... the suns will be lucky to get 15.Looks like you did your homework to come up with those numbers which are not bad. Did you have ur Sixers winning the eastern conference also? :nod:

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 05:33 AM
Looks like you did your homework to come up with those numbers which are not bad. Did you have ur Sixers winning the eastern conference also? :nod:

nope but sixers will be a top 5 team in the EC this season as long as Embiid is healthy... You better hope embiid isnt or the warriors real competition will be the sixers next year and beyond.

IKnowHoops
10-20-2017, 07:24 AM
KP is the best young player in the NBA


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Giannis eeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaasssssiiiilllllyyyyyy

IKnowHoops
10-20-2017, 07:27 AM
Anyone else think that Ingram looks ordinary? I'm not seeing what's so special about him.

Never saw anything to be honest

warfelg
10-20-2017, 07:32 AM
That was a tough game for the Lakers and a tough watch. Randle and Ingram look like they havenít developed since the draft.

eDush
10-20-2017, 09:11 AM
^ Ingram just had a so so first game but it would be naive to think he will be like this the entire season https://youtu.be/Sono9wpDzoA

I seen his first SL game this year against the same team, even tho against G leagues, show me enough of his skills that he HAS IMPROVED! Trust me :nod:

warfelg
10-20-2017, 09:15 AM
Sure sure.

eDush
10-20-2017, 09:16 AM
Looks like you did your homework to come up with those numbers which are not bad. Did you have ur Sixers winning the eastern conference also? :nod:

nope but sixers will be a top 5 team in the EC this season as long as Embiid is healthy... You better hope embiid isnt or the warriors real competition will be the sixers next year and beyond.I hope Embiid stay healthy for the entire season as Dubs fans want to see real competition from young talented teams instead of the same usual faces which is tiring so best of luck for him, Simmons and the rook a tagged as special... :nod:

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 10:18 AM
Wow, how times change, lol.

hey.. you would hate the guy too if he injured your best player lol..

Chronz
10-20-2017, 10:22 AM
Blake for MVP

Y'all just forgot his offensive package is uniquely deadly, if he's finally extended his range to the 3, its over. Best pf in the game and he's gonna make cp3 cry for leaving

Chronz
10-20-2017, 10:23 AM
Omg what if this was cp3s plan all along. He allows himself to get traded, only to come back next year with an improved clippers

ewing
10-20-2017, 10:38 AM
Anyone else think that Ingram looks ordinary? I'm not seeing what's so special about him.

It was only one game but dude over dribbled a lot and had no trust in his j.


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WaDe03
10-20-2017, 10:46 AM
I mean Beverley said he was going to get in balls *** and lock him up. Did some of you expect otherwise? Ball is a rookie, Beverley will lock up any rookie in the league.

beasted86
10-20-2017, 11:01 AM
Blake for MVP

Y'all just forgot his offensive package is uniquely deadly, if he's finally extended his range to the 3, its over. Best pf in the game and he's gonna make cp3 cry for leaving

What position is Anthony Davis considered as?

KobeOwnSU
10-20-2017, 11:53 AM
Lonzo didn't play as bad as some of you are saying. Their were at least 6-7 times he threw a beautiful pass and made a teammate open and that teammate either missed the shot or didn't know what to do. He should have had a double double on rebounds and assists with any kind of shooting from his teammates. The scoring will come, that isn't his game but he needs to be more aggressive so he can open up more passing lanes.

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kyubi256
10-20-2017, 11:55 AM
I love how lavar talked crap about Beverly after the game. Dude shut your son down

smith&wesson
10-20-2017, 12:13 PM
sooo lavar gonna come out and talk **** every time someone goes at his son ? I feel so bad for Lonzo.. kids got a target on his back and through no fault of his own

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 12:18 PM
Lonzo didn't play as bad as some of you are saying. Their were at least 6-7 times he threw a beautiful pass and made a teammate open and that teammate either missed the shot or didn't know what to do. He should have had a double double on rebounds and assists with any kind of shooting from his teammates. The scoring will come, that isn't his game but he needs to be more aggressive so he can open up more passing lanes.

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There are many players who make great passes and their teammates don't finish. He played bad, period.

ewing
10-20-2017, 12:31 PM
There are many players who make great passes and their teammates don't finish. He played bad, period.

I thought he looked like a talented 19 year old rookie playing pg on a bad team.


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WaDe03
10-20-2017, 12:33 PM
In the 29 possessions Lonzo was guarded by Beverly he was 0-2 and had 3 assist opportunities. He was terrified he didn't even try Beverly.

corky831
10-20-2017, 12:41 PM
I wanted a top 2 pick last yr for either Simmons or Ingram, but I can say I am happy we got the 3 pick and went with Jaylen Brown. He looks far superior to Ingram right now. Good head on his shoulders too. Simmons looks nice at guard though

tredigs
10-20-2017, 12:58 PM
sooo lavar gonna come out and talk **** every time someone goes at his son ? I feel so bad for Lonzo.. kids got a target on his back and through no fault of his own

That's a fact. If that was a random rookie there's no way Bev is going half as hard as he went there. Granted, it got him into early foul trouble and with bit of luck Lonzo could have turned that on him. I'd also imagine that Bev is top-3 on the petty factor and most points won't be that in his face. Granted, he's in the West where there's at least 5 top-20 players he'll be facing at PG. He's going to have his hands full, especially with a crappy roster. He was pensive last night and definitely not in top form, but rest assure that kid will succeed.

warfelg
10-20-2017, 01:26 PM
921414537554755584

lol

eDush
10-20-2017, 02:04 PM
I wanted a top 2 pick last yr for either Simmons or Ingram, but I can say I am happy we got the 3 pick and went with Jaylen Brown. He looks far superior to Ingram right now. Good head on his shoulders too. Simmons looks nice at guard thoughBrown has a bad motor as I would take the other two over ur guy by a country mile :nod:

WaDe03
10-20-2017, 02:15 PM
Brown has a bad motor as I would take the other two over ur guy by a country mile :nod:

Brown has a great motor what the hell are you talking about?

WaDe03
10-20-2017, 02:17 PM
Where's that Knicks fan that said he wouldn't trade Frank and Willy for Kyrie because Willie was going to start and average a double-double and Frank was going to surprise people? Should've drafted DSJ.

eDush
10-20-2017, 02:24 PM
Where's that Knicks fan that said he wouldn't trade Frank and Willy for Kyrie because Willie was going to start and average a double-double and Frank was going to surprise people? Should've drafted DSJ.DSJ has a bad motor too...both Brown and DSJ are like twin turbos that are lemons on most days other than a few sparks to wet your whistle :nod:

tredigs
10-20-2017, 02:59 PM
Concerning Lonzo I will say there is one large cap on his game that will ultimately always separate him from the best players in the game and it's a slow first step + general lack of ability to create for himself at an elite level. He needs to improve his handle in order to make him somewhat of a threat in that respect. And along with crap offensive teammates, that is going to cap his impact his rookie year.

TheDish87
10-20-2017, 03:43 PM
DSJ has a bad motor too...both Brown and DSJ are like twin turbos that are lemons on most days other than a few sparks to wet your whistle :nod:

you literally couldn't be more wrong

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 03:53 PM
you literally couldn't be more wrong

He pretends he watches games outside of Warriors ones.... it's hilarious when his description of a player ends up being the complete opposite.

TheDish87
10-20-2017, 04:01 PM
im not even a Jaylen Brown fan but if you ever watched him play you know energy/motor is not an issue and DSJ plays as hard if not harder than anyone hes on the floor with every night even while never really being 100% last year.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 04:13 PM
Whatever this quad injury for Kawhi is, he does not look like he is going to be able to play a basketball game for a long time. Very concerning that there is no time-table. And the Spurs might only win 50 games without him.

But seriously, wtf.

WaDe03
10-20-2017, 04:27 PM
Whatever this quad injury for Kawhi is, he does not look like he is going to be able to play a basketball game for a long time. Very concerning that there is no time-table. And the Spurs might only win 50 games without him.

But seriously, wtf.

921455042976145409

Looks terrible, no way he's back before December.

WaDe03
10-20-2017, 04:35 PM
They're saying CP3s injury may sideline him a month.

kdspurman
10-20-2017, 04:51 PM
921455042976145409

Looks terrible, no way he's back before December.

If it was really bad, he wouldn't be traveling with the team IMO. Looks more like he's stretching that left leg, sequentially taking longer strides with his left leg, and short with the right. I've seen him walking around prior to the season starting and at the opener, definitely nothing that drastic.

I think he'll be back some time in November, that's what's being thrown around.

WaDe03
10-20-2017, 05:00 PM
If it was really bad, he wouldn't be traveling with the team IMO. Looks more like he's stretching that left leg, sequentially taking longer strides with his left leg, and short with the right. I've seen him walking around prior to the season starting and at the opener, definitely nothing that drastic.

I think he'll be back some time in November, that's what's being thrown around.

Good, I hope that's the case.

More-Than-Most
10-20-2017, 05:04 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/921393079579443200


:laugh:

Joel Embiid on teams he plays with in 2K

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMlyHJLXUAAGqoo.jpg

kdspurman
10-20-2017, 05:13 PM
Good, I hope that's the case.

Yea most definitely.. 5-10 games is floating around at the moment, but we'll see.

kdspurman
10-20-2017, 05:30 PM
"Now, some context: Leonard underwent a rehab session just before the scheduled flight time. He rushed from said session to the flight. It would not be surprising for him to be a little tight or a little sore. It is also possible he had been iced up for the flight.


Leonard has been ruled out for Saturdayís game against the Bulls. The Spurs have announced no specific timetable for his return. But Leonard probably wouldnít be on the trip at all if he were really too hurt to climb stairs.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/10/20/about-that-kawhi-leonard-video/amp/

FlashBolt
10-20-2017, 05:32 PM
If it was really bad, he wouldn't be traveling with the team IMO. Looks more like he's stretching that left leg, sequentially taking longer strides with his left leg, and short with the right. I've seen him walking around prior to the season starting and at the opener, definitely nothing that drastic.

I think he'll be back some time in November, that's what's being thrown around.

I hope you're right. Losing that month might hurt his MVP chances.

kdspurman
10-20-2017, 06:05 PM
I hope you're right. Losing that month might hurt his MVP chances.

I care more about him being healthy for a possible GS matchup again.

When SA has a pretty good record, it'll probably sway voters anyway. Their schedule isn't too tough to start aside from being on the road mostly, but opponent wise they should be able to handle business, especially with LMA 2.0.

tredigs
10-20-2017, 06:11 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/921393079579443200


:laugh:

Joel Embiid on teams he plays with in 2K

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMlyHJLXUAAGqoo.jpg
He's hilarious. Gonna need to smarter play out of him though. This screaming for the ball at the 3 pt line and settling for fadeaway jumper nonsense needs to go. Sort of wish that team had a more elite coach so their developments make sure to get maximized.

^Hope you're right on Kawhi spurman. And as long as it's not very serious he'll come back to a playoff team regardless if it's over a month long injury.

In other news - very excited to see Giannis V 'Bron before the Dubs game tonight.

Chronz
10-20-2017, 06:55 PM
If it was really bad, he wouldn't be traveling with the team IMO. Looks more like he's stretching that left leg, sequentially taking longer strides with his left leg, and short with the right. I've seen him walking around prior to the season starting and at the opener, definitely nothing that drastic.

I think he'll be back some time in November, that's what's being thrown around.

What happened between the time you said he would be ready for the season and today?

flea
10-20-2017, 06:59 PM
Hope this Cavs/Bucks game is good. Going to be first game I watch this season. Well I'll watch at least until the ALCS starts. Lebron/Giannis should become a MJ/Kobe type of matchup.

kdspurman
10-20-2017, 07:07 PM
What happened between the time you said he would be ready for the season and today?

No idea.. my guess is just taking a little longer to heal + Pop being overly cautious as usual, maybe.

Kawhi probably went too hard in the summer, because he was definitely actively training.