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Aust
09-30-2017, 12:02 AM
Basketball is back folks. Here is the schedule:

All times are EASTERN(EST).

Saturday, Sep 30, 2017
Denver at Golden St. - 8:30 pm
Minnesota at L.A. Lakers - 10:00 pm - NBAtv

Sunday, Oct 1, 2017
Atlanta at Miami - 6:00 pm - NBAtv
L.A. Clippers at Toronto - 10:00 pm - NBAtv

Monday, Oct 2, 2017
Charlotte at Boston - 7:30 pm - NBAtv
Orlando at Memphis - 8:00 pm
Milwaukee at Dallas - 8:30 pm
San Antonio at Sacramento - 10:00 pm
Denver at L.A. Lakers - 10:30 pm - NBAtv

Tuesday, Oct 3, 2017
Brooklyn at New York - 7:30 pm
Chicago at New Orleans - 8:00 pm
Houston at Oklahoma City - 8:00 pm - NBAtv
Phoenix at Portland - 10:00 pm - NBAtv
Toronto at L.A. Clippers - 11:59 pm - NBAtv

Wednesday, Oct 4, 2017
Charlotte at Detroit - 7:00 pm
Memphis at Philadelphia - 7:00 pm
Atlanta at Cleveland - 7:00 pm - NBAtv
Indiana at Milwaukee - 8:00 pm
Chicago at Dallas - 8:30 pm
Denver at L.A. Lakers - 10:00 pm - NBAtv
Minnesota at Golden St. - 11:59 pm

Thursday, Oct 5, 2017
Dallas at Orlando - 7:00 pm
Miami at Brooklyn - 7:30 pm - NBAtv
Toronto at Portland - 10:00 pm - NBAtv

Friday, Oct 6, 2017
Atlanta at Detroit - 7:00 pm
Boston at Philadelphia - 7:00 pm - NBAtv
New York at Washington - 7:00 pm
Indiana at Cleveland - 7:30 pm
New Orleans at Oklahoma City - 8:00 pm
Milwaukee at Chicago - 8:00 pm
Sacramento at San Antonio - 8:30 pm
Phoenix at Utah - 9:00 pm

Saturday, Oct 7, 2017
Miami at Orlando - 7:00 pm - NBAtv

Sunday, Oct 8, 2017
Golden St. at Minnesota - 7:00 am
Cleveland at Washington - 3:00 pm - NBAtv
Portland at L.A. Clippers - 3:30 pm
Denver at San Antonio - 4:00 pm
New Orleans at Chicago - 7:00 pm
New York at Brooklyn - 7:30 pm
Sacramento at L.A. Lakers - 9:00 pm - ESPN

Monday, Oct 9, 2017
Indiana at Detroit 7:00 pm
Memphis at Atlanta - 7:30 pm
Philadelphia at Boston - 7:30 pm
Charlotte at Miami - 7:30 pm
Houston at New York - 7:30 pm - NBAtv
Orlando at Dallas 8:30 pm
Utah at Phoenix - 10:00 pm
Portland at Sacramento - 10:00 pm - NBAtv

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2017
Detroit at Toronto - 7:00 pm - TSN
Chicago at Cleveland - 8:00 pm - ESPN
Orlando at San Antonio - 8:30 pm
Oklahoma City at Denver - 9:00 pm
Utah at L.A. Lakers - 10:30 pm - ESPN

Wednesday, Oct 11, 2017
Boston at Charlotte - 7:00 pm - ESPN
Philadelphia at Brooklyn - 7:30 pm
Washington at Miami - 7:30 pm
Houston at Memphis - 9:30 pm - ESPN
Portland at Phoenix - 10:00 pm

Thursday, Oct 12, 2017
Dallas at Atlanta - 7:30 pm - NBAtv
Sacramento at L.A. Clippers - 10:30 pm - NBAtv

Friday, Oct 13, 2017
Dallas at Charlotte - 6:00 pm
Cleveland at Orlando - 7:00 pm
Washington at New York - 7:30 pm
Miami at Philadelphia - 8:00 pm
New Orleans at Memphis - 8:00 pm
Toronto at Chicago - 8:00 pm
San Antonio at Houston - 8:00 pm - TNT
Detroit at Milwaukee - 8:30 pm
Sacramento at Golden St. - 10:30 pm
L.A. Lakers at L.A. Clippers - 10:30 pm - TNT
:love: :around-the-world: :layup: :ballspinning:

GREATNESS ONE
09-30-2017, 12:09 AM
Thanks Aust! We miss your Mod GT in our Lakers forum!


I got tickets to tomorrow's Lakers vs Timberwolves game! Pumped! Can't wait!

AllBall
09-30-2017, 10:35 AM
Whooooooo! Baby! NBA is back! The off season was great, it's like the NBA never left. :laugh2:

Scoots
09-30-2017, 11:35 AM
Whooooooo! Baby! NBA is back! The off season was great, it's like the NBA never left. :laugh2:

That was the fastest off season I can remember.

More-Than-Most
09-30-2017, 02:22 PM
wont lie... i am excited as **** for that lakers/wolves game.

GREATNESS ONE
09-30-2017, 03:10 PM
Catch us on TV! Can't wait for tonight's game! Gonna be at the Arena early, to catch a glimpse of some stars!

BBB!

Scoots
09-30-2017, 03:49 PM
Looking forward to Denver/GSW

Is Manimal over-rated or under-rated? It seems to me his game hasn't grown in the last 4 years.

Vee-Rex
09-30-2017, 06:50 PM
That was the fastest off season I can remember.

Yeah it was.

Last off-season was the longest. I spent the entire time arguing with Chronz. What a nightmare.

zn23
09-30-2017, 09:39 PM
That pass by Jokic...

eDush
09-30-2017, 10:24 PM
Whooooooo! Baby! NBA is back! The off season was great, it's like the NBA never left. :laugh2:

That was the fastest off season I can remember.Doesn't seem fast enough unless you don't mind following the other local teams non winning season but i understand the greater picture :nod:

Aust
09-30-2017, 10:33 PM
Those TWolves jerseys are beautiful

zn23
09-30-2017, 10:57 PM
After watching them play, I like Denver's chances of getting that 4th seed in West. Especially if Mudiay can be this effective off the bench.

More-Than-Most
09-30-2017, 11:04 PM
anyone have the stats?

More-Than-Most
09-30-2017, 11:08 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066421/lonzo-ball

found them

Htownballa1622
09-30-2017, 11:41 PM
The Warriors lost! :speechless:

More-Than-Most
10-01-2017, 12:06 AM
lol thank god for the lakers bench... ingram and ball look terrible tonight

Scoots
10-01-2017, 10:12 AM
After watching them play, I like Denver's chances of getting that 4th seed in West. Especially if Mudiay can be this effective off the bench.

I'm a fan of the Nuggets ... but the Warriors were out-scored from 3 by 30 points when the starters went out ... if both teams shoot their average from 3 it's a very different score. Not that the Nuggets didn't deserve the win, they hustled and played hard and smart ball and they are going to get better ... but the 4th seed means they are going to beat out two of the Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, and Wolves. It's possible, particularly with their home court advantage ... but it's going to be mighty tough.

tp13baby
10-01-2017, 10:16 AM
Looking forward to Denver/GSW

Is Manimal over-rated or under-rated? It seems to me his game hasn't grown in the last 4 years.

He is what he is. Nothing special defensively. Will surprise you on offense but overall nothing more than an athletic Reggie Evans. Dude is playing for a rotation spot in Denver.

tp13baby
10-01-2017, 10:18 AM
Ball and Ingram combine for 6-24 shooting.

TheDish87
10-01-2017, 10:31 AM
After watching them play, I like Denver's chances of getting that 4th seed in West. Especially if Mudiay can be this effective off the bench.

after 2 pre-season game? come on man this is all crazy homer talk

Scoots
10-01-2017, 01:48 PM
He is what he is. Nothing special defensively. Will surprise you on offense but overall nothing more than an athletic Reggie Evans. Dude is playing for a rotation spot in Denver.

It's a shame. He looked like he had so much potential.

tp13baby
10-01-2017, 04:42 PM
after 2 pre-season game? come on man this is all crazy homer talk

He isn't a Nuggets fan but purely a Jokic fan.


It's a shame. He looked like he had so much potential.

Never developed a shot, to small and weirdly unable to guard stretch 4s or big men.

And it's not like he has bad, he would be an amazing addition for another team, but our second unit with him and Plumlee should not coexist. Spacing on the second unit for us is going to be a problem with Mudiay, Barton, Juancho and Plumlee. Trey Lyles needs to prove he can crack the rotation or DA get to where he was.

Scoots
10-01-2017, 06:49 PM
He isn't a Nuggets fan but purely a Jokic fan.



Never developed a shot, to small and weirdly unable to guard stretch 4s or big men.

And it's not like he has bad, he would be an amazing addition for another team, but our second unit with him and Plumlee should not coexist. Spacing on the second unit for us is going to be a problem with Mudiay, Barton, Juancho and Plumlee. Trey Lyles needs to prove he can crack the rotation or DA get to where he was.

I love Juancho ... I had hope that he'd drop low enough in the draft for the Warriors to have a shot at him. The Nuggets were criticized for taking him where they did, but I still love his game.

The Nuggets have so much talent ... but they need to trade some away to make room for some of it to get more PT it seems.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-02-2017, 09:16 AM
Giannis wont be playing tonight versus Mavs. His Dad just passed away recently.

More-Than-Most
10-03-2017, 12:07 AM
Fox looks legit

I dont understand the lakers... Randle gets shitted on so much but all he does is perform and lakers fans act like 10/10 grows on trees... but then a guy like ball has flash and he is the next big thing... the dude cant guard cant shoot... when he is turning the ball over he is literally as negative as negative can be... 4 games against summerleague showed he would be a god... 2 preseason games against NBA talent is saying other wise. He looks awful again tonight

More-Than-Most
10-03-2017, 12:13 AM
lol his shot is so bad.

zn23
10-03-2017, 12:14 AM
Lakers are in absolute **** form so far in the preseason lol.

Scoots
10-03-2017, 12:39 AM
Lakers are in absolute **** form so far in the preseason lol.

50 wins!

More-Than-Most
10-03-2017, 12:47 AM
kuzma speed is nuts man... and his on the ball ability is there... Interesting dude.

Lakers + Giants
10-03-2017, 01:04 AM
Kuzma > Ingram :sigh:

More-Than-Most
10-03-2017, 01:52 AM
Kuzma > Ingram :sigh:

Kuzama------------>Ingram-------->Ball

Honestly has has the speed and looks like he understands the game better... Ingram plays defense as does kuzama... ball does not on top of his shot looking terrible.

LakerPride
10-03-2017, 02:24 AM
kuzma is the main reason the lakers won the summer league... not ball

GoferKing_
10-03-2017, 08:50 AM
I won't lie, Kuzma looks legit.

Lakers + Giants
10-03-2017, 10:14 AM
I won't lie, Kuzma looks legit.

what I love is that he actually looks interested on the defensive end :laugh2:

I had forgotten what defense looked like.

WaDe03
10-03-2017, 09:13 PM
People really think Melo isn't good anymore lol. It honestly cracks me up.

IKnowHoops
10-04-2017, 12:21 AM
Yeah, a motivated Melo sourrounded by talent getting wide open looks in the flow of the offense is still a scary thing. In that setting he can efficiently and effortlessly drop 30.

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2017, 12:34 AM
kuzma is the main reason the lakers won the summer league... not ball

....

aman_13
10-04-2017, 12:57 AM
You can already see Lonzo's deficiencies. His only plus attribute is his playmaking but his ability to create for himself and finishing at the rim seems below average. His shot needs a lot of work.

He has high IQ and I think he will adjust to the NBA speed rather quickly, but for someone selected so high and so highly touted, i'm surprised how subpar he looks at various areas of his game.

FlashBolt
10-04-2017, 01:16 AM
You can already see Lonzo's deficiencies. His only plus attribute is his playmaking but his ability to create for himself and finishing at the rim seems below average. His shot needs a lot of work.

He has high IQ and I think he will adjust to the NBA speed rather quickly, but for someone selected so high and so highly touted, i'm surprised how subpar he looks at various areas of his game.

I think he's nervous out there. He's forcing too many passes but sometimes you gotta slow it down. Pressure mounting on him due to his dad.. which is why Magic needs to get his dad to stop.

charlesjohny8
10-04-2017, 01:26 AM
can't wait for tomorrow.

aman_13
10-04-2017, 01:27 AM
I think he's nervous out there. He's forcing too many passes but sometimes you gotta slow it down. Pressure mounting on him due to his dad.. which is why Magic needs to get his dad to stop.

Yeah he will figure that out as he adjusts to the speed and spacing of the game. But yeah he has looked nervous at times.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 01:52 AM
I think he's nervous out there. He's forcing too many passes but sometimes you gotta slow it down. Pressure mounting on him due to his dad.. which is why Magic needs to get his dad to stop.

stop.. it has 0 to do with his dad... He cant shoot and he cant defend thus why people had issues with him to begin agaisnt NBA talent... HE CANT ****ING SHOOT OR DEFEND... HE CAN PASS... I get it the dude is a play maker but how many times have we seen a great playmaker who couldnt **** and defend? Kidd could defend... Nash could shoot... etc... Just stop. The dude can pass that is it... I am so sick of the excuses... will he be a good NBA player? Maybe... but he is slow as ****... he cant defend and he cant shoot... He has a ton to work on... Honestly Fultz/Tatum would have been the better picks but the lakers choose him because of his marketbalility and its moronic.

I said it all along... I would have taken fultz and fox over him and jackson as well.. ball would have gone 4th with tatum 5th.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 01:55 AM
Lonzo will have a great game every 4 to 6 games... Id expect him to be good tomorrow... but he is only as good as others are.. meaning if other peoples shot are falling he will look good in the box score

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 01:56 AM
....

he is right and if you took your head out your butt youd see it as well. Lonzo has so many weaknesses man. You guys should have taken fox or tatum

aman_13
10-04-2017, 01:59 AM
It's okay if he can't defend. He definitely needs to learn how to shoot.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 05:34 AM
It's okay if he can't defend. He definitely needs to learn how to shoot.

if he had a curry like shot sure... but he lacks the shot/defense and the quickness... curry/nash etc all had/have quickness... ball looks like he is running in quicksand.... He has talent but not top 4 pick in a deep draft talent... his marketability got him that jump because of his father... DLO has more talent than Ball by a good bit and the lakers tossed him away.

zn23
10-04-2017, 09:19 AM
Looking forward to watching the Bulls tonight.

TheDish87
10-04-2017, 09:49 AM
wow surprised there is B2B in pre-season

eDush
10-04-2017, 10:57 AM
Kuzma > Ingram :sigh:

Kuzama------------>Ingram-------->Ball

Honestly has has the speed and looks like he understands the game better... Ingram plays defense as does kuzama... ball does not on top of his shot looking terrible.Fox-------------->Kuzama------------>Ingram-------->Ball

That's better as my Fox was my ROY pick and you can see why now after he went 7 of 8 off the bench along with a sweet block and steal. Ball may win ROY due to the Lakers running their offense thru his hands whether he sux at most every other area of his game other than his court vision passing :nod:

eDush
10-04-2017, 10:59 AM
You can already see Lonzo's deficiencies. His only plus attribute is his playmaking but his ability to create for himself and finishing at the rim seems below average. His shot needs a lot of work.

He has high IQ and I think he will adjust to the NBA speed rather quickly, but for someone selected so high and so highly touted, i'm surprised how subpar he looks at various areas of his game.He look subpar in other areas in college too...so not sure why your surprise....
:shrug:

eDush
10-04-2017, 11:03 AM
Looking forward to Denver/GSW

Is Manimal over-rated or under-rated? It seems to me his game hasn't grown in the last 4 years.Nuggets looks like the real deal this season. Dallas will struggle with your DSJ running the offense like he did in his last preseason game against pros and not G leaguers and walk on's that he faced in SL...:laugh:

IKnowHoops
10-04-2017, 11:11 AM
So a rookie has a bad first two games and now he's a bust? Slow down.

mightybosstone
10-04-2017, 11:15 AM
Fox-------------->Kuzama------------>Ingram-------->Ball

That's better as my Fox was my ROY pick and you can see why now after he went 7 of 8 off the bench along with a sweet block and steal. Ball may win ROY due to the Lakers running their offense thru his hands whether he sux at most every other area of his game other than his court vision passing :nod:

Dude.... It's bad enough that you have a photo of Sam "I can't stay health for half a season" Bradford in your sig, but does it have to be so massive? Seriously, I would consider finding another photo that doesn't take up an entire computer screen.

mightybosstone
10-04-2017, 11:17 AM
Harden and Paul combined for 17 assists in only 53 combined minutes yesterday in their first game together, and the Rockets made 24 3-pointers as a team last night. It's safe to say that offense is going to be ridiculous this season...

FlashBolt
10-04-2017, 11:22 AM
stop.. it has 0 to do with his dad... He cant shoot and he cant defend thus why people had issues with him to begin agaisnt NBA talent... HE CANT ****ING SHOOT OR DEFEND... HE CAN PASS... I get it the dude is a play maker but how many times have we seen a great playmaker who couldnt **** and defend? Kidd could defend... Nash could shoot... etc... Just stop. The dude can pass that is it... I am so sick of the excuses... will he be a good NBA player? Maybe... but he is slow as ****... he cant defend and he cant shoot... He has a ton to work on... Honestly Fultz/Tatum would have been the better picks but the lakers choose him because of his marketbalility and its moronic.

I said it all along... I would have taken fultz and fox over him and jackson as well.. ball would have gone 4th with tatum 5th.

Plenty of rookies can't shoot and defend in the league right now... give it time. Trust the process, right?

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 11:22 AM
Plenty of rookies can't shoot and defend in the league right now... give it time. Trust the process, right?

Guys are 19 and everyone wants to act like they're finished products lol.

Scoots
10-04-2017, 12:17 PM
Nuggets looks like the real deal this season. Dallas will struggle with your DSJ running the offense like he did in his last preseason game against pros and not G leaguers and walk on's that he faced in SL...:laugh:

I know you are nuts, but how did Dennis Smith become "mine"?

Scoots
10-04-2017, 12:19 PM
Dude.... It's bad enough that you have a photo of Sam "I can't stay health for half a season" Bradford in your sig, but does it have to be so massive? Seriously, I would consider finding another photo that doesn't take up an entire computer screen.

I just block sig elements in my browser and it's no longer an issue. (I haven't blocked your UT banner though ... Hook 'em)

tp13baby
10-04-2017, 01:00 PM
Everyone loves GS offense for good reason, but this Denver Nuggets ball movement is beautiful.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 03:28 PM
Plenty of rookies can't shoot and defend in the league right now... give it time. Trust the process, right?

except his shot is crap and his quickness is nonexistant... you can fix a shot but how do you teach quickness. He looks like he is running in mud... dude makes sweet passes but his game always had major holes in key areas... i said he could very well end up GOAT... its just not likely nor was he worth the 2nd pick in that deep of a draft with better players with less bust potential on the board.

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 04:05 PM
Looking forward to watching the Bulls tonight.

Why?

Scoots
10-04-2017, 04:42 PM
Everyone loves GS offense for good reason, but this Denver Nuggets ball movement is beautiful.

It all comes with smart players.

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2017, 04:47 PM
So a rookie has a bad first two games and now he's a bust? Slow down.

lol seriously. These guys think they're some basketball guru experts watching Lakers box scores and maximum 3-5 Lakers games a year. It's actually kinda hilarious because a lot of people will be eating crow when Lonzo develops into his man body.

zn23
10-04-2017, 04:56 PM
Why?

Looking forward to watching Lauri Markkanen. But I heard he might sit out...

Scoots
10-04-2017, 05:31 PM
Looking forward to watching Lauri Markkanen. But I heard he might sit out...

Penalty!!! Resting is not allowed!

5ass
10-04-2017, 06:26 PM
lol seriously. These guys think they're some basketball guru experts watching Lakers box scores and maximum 3-5 Lakers games a year. It's actually kinda hilarious because a lot of people will be eating crow when Lonzo develops into his man body.

LOL, this is a joke, right? You didnt think his body was a problem a few weeks ago.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 06:45 PM
LOL, this is a joke, right? You didnt think his body was a problem a few weeks ago.

na he was saying how great he was and is going to be because of summer league games against non nba talent when others told him of his weaknesses and how he would struggle against NBA talent because of said weaknesses. He could very well end up the best person from this draft but again I would have taken fox/fultz/JJ over him without a 2nd thought and said just that before draft.... Lonzo is so slow and doesnt have a quick first step with a terrible release.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 06:47 PM
welp time for simmons to get the rust off.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 07:12 PM
Ben simmons...... is already unstoppable

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 07:14 PM
holy ****ing **** big ben lol

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 07:17 PM
Well we're 3 minutes into preseason but I've already came to the conclusion Wade is going to eat with this supporting cast. 3-3-3 in the first 3 minutes.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 07:19 PM
not bad... 5 minutes... 4pts/4assists/2rebounds

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 07:21 PM
Crowder and Rose also looking good.

FlashBolt
10-04-2017, 07:42 PM
Calderon is such an underrated team player. Probably one of my fave guys that never comes to mind. Dude is so vocal out there and is a damn smart player. Too bad he wasn't athletic or else he would be getting more mentions.

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 07:50 PM
Drummond is 4-5 from 3, wtf?!

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 07:54 PM
Dwight is 3-4 from 3 too lol

warfelg
10-04-2017, 08:01 PM
915726461499256832

This kid is good.

warfelg
10-04-2017, 08:13 PM
FWIW, Ben Simmons was introduced as a "6'10" guard from LSU"

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2017, 08:19 PM
LOL, this is a joke, right? You didnt think his body was a problem a few weeks ago.

Still going to have a great career and will probably be ROY.

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2017, 08:22 PM
na he was saying how great he was and is going to be because of summer league games against non nba talent when others told him of his weaknesses and how he would struggle against NBA talent because of said weaknesses. He could very well end up the best person from this draft but again I would have taken fox/fultz/JJ over him without a 2nd thought and said just that before draft.... Lonzo is so slow and doesnt have a quick first step with a terrible release.

Lonzo > DBLO

Don't be an ***, I am an avid die hard UCLA fan. I didn't say he would be great because of SL pendejo. I took everything into account, especially his college career.


You guys are calling him a bust after 2 pre-season games! So whatever, guess time will tell :) one of us will be very wrong. You think he will be a bust, I think he will be great.

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2017, 08:23 PM
Hope Ben Simmons can stay healthy and have a great career. He seems like kinda of a douche but I've only heard him talk/type a few things, so I'll reserve judgement.

I think if Lonzo doesn't win ROY, Simmons will have a really good chance too.

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 08:45 PM
Nevermind on Drummond and Dwight, the box scores are all ****ed up.

lakerfan85
10-04-2017, 09:03 PM
Fultz is looking good tonight...

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 09:13 PM
Fultz is looking good tonight...

basically like ingram looked all last season and this season :shrug:

Lakers + Giants
10-04-2017, 09:17 PM
basically like ingram looked all last season and this season :shrug:

It's comical how you get defensive when someone else does what you do.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 09:19 PM
It's comical how you get defensive when someone else does what you do.

hmm... how is speaking the truth being defensive? I basically agreed with him.. Fultz was **** :shrug:

That is basically the equivalent of simmons being **** and me coming in and saying how terrible lonzo is lol... Ingram has been poopoo all last year and this year it doesnt seem to have changed after 2 games... of course its just 2 games.

mightybosstone
10-04-2017, 09:19 PM
At what point did the NBA forum turn into a constant shouting match between Lakers fans and Sixers fans? Are you guys just fighting over which team is going to be more mediocre this season? Because I can assure you that both of your teams suck.

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 09:22 PM
At what point did the NBA forum turn into a constant shouting match between Lakers fans and Sixers fans? Are you guys just fighting over which team is going to be more mediocre this season? Because I can assure you that both of your teams suck.

what else is there for us to do? Should we not pick on each other and enjoy each others teams and their failures?

mightybosstone
10-04-2017, 09:35 PM
what else is there for us to do? Should we not pick on each other and enjoy each others teams and their failures?

Oh, no, you absolutely should. I'm just giving you guys hell because it's easy.

nicnac
10-04-2017, 09:52 PM
Yeah, a motivated Melo sourrounded by talent getting wide open looks in the flow of the offense is still a scary thing. In that setting he can efficiently and effortlessly drop 30.

13 shots in 19min. Same ole melo. Give him 30 min, 24 shots. As a knick fan, no thx. Had enough!! And he's guaranteed to miss the game winning shot. Better have a big lead.

ewing
10-04-2017, 10:14 PM
13 shots in 19min. Same ole melo. Give him 30 min, 24 shots. As a knick fan, no thx. Had enough!! And he's guaranteed to miss the game winning shot. Better have a big lead.

before the kninks Melo had a great record with last shots.

FlashBolt
10-04-2017, 10:31 PM
13 shots in 19min. Same ole melo. Give him 30 min, 24 shots. As a knick fan, no thx. Had enough!! And he's guaranteed to miss the game winning shot. Better have a big lead.

RWB wasn't even playing.... that's why Melo took those shots.

nicnac
10-04-2017, 10:36 PM
RWB wasn't even playing.... that's why Melo took those shots.

You think so? You will learn. He will get his numbers but it will not be efficient on most nights. He will stop the ball. I believe the real loser will be George. The ball will be in melos and westb hand the most

FlashBolt
10-04-2017, 10:42 PM
You think so? You will learn. He will get his numbers but it will not be efficient on most nights. He will stop the ball. I believe the real loser will be George. The ball will be in melos and westb hand the most

I know Melo is a ballstopper. But he's much better than Kanter so that is all that matters. I believe we won the offseason by pulling off getting PG and Melo for garbage pieces.

FlashBolt
10-04-2017, 10:42 PM
Btw, MTM.. making fun of Lonzo but Fultz and Simmons were pretty bad, huh?

ewing
10-04-2017, 10:50 PM
I know Melo is a ballstopper. But he's much better than Kanter so that is all that matters. I believe we won the offseason by pulling off getting PG and Melo for garbage pieces.

when things go bad Melo will revert to bad habits. He doesn't need to be a ball stopper though and I think when you guys are playing well he wont be. I like Melo. I feel he may have been a little overrated at one point and now is underrated. Dude is defiantly stubborn though. When things get shakey he wants them done his way and thats not good.

ewing
10-04-2017, 10:51 PM
RWB wasn't even playing.... that's why Melo took those shots.

nah he took them b/c he can score. in preseason he can probably score a lot. Dude wanted to show off a little in his new uni.

nicnac
10-04-2017, 10:56 PM
nah he took them b/c he can score. in preseason he can probably score a lot. Dude wanted to show off a little in his new uni.

I agree. with westb and the fast pace i also believe that he will average about 26 but it will not translate into a much improved team. His stats are very hollow to me. His 26 will translate to 15 to 18 for George bc of shot distribution

kobe4thewinbang
10-04-2017, 11:00 PM
Holy crap is the Lakers defense bad! Lonzo is showing some up-and-down promise. Don't get me wrong; their defense looks better than years past. But they keep over-committing or doubling and then someone is open (see the Nuggets/Timberwolves games). I know it's just pre-season, but guys are hitting more 3PTers nowadays. Hilarious seeing a Laker try to close out on an NBA-caliber player and watch the ball swish through. You can't do that crap.

Anyway...in good news, LUOL FREAKING DENG hit a 3PTer. Stop the press! Wow. Ingram looks more aggressive closer to the basket on drives and trigger-happy on his jumper which is good but he is still really gaunt. Randle looked solid. Lonzo's able to get his shot off. Just not hitting much. Might be his form, I dunno. He's going to struggle as a rookie, no doubt. But I think by December, he should be showing us something. They'll still be a lot better, but that defense needs work and consistency.

The Kings looked great against the Spurs, which is surprising. Anyone else like the Labassiere kid? Smooth jumper and decent ambidextrous post-game. Kings are sort of tucking him away and hoping he develops more this season by adding size. I liked what I saw. He had a solid rookie season too. With DMC gone, he should get more time. Fox looks like a solid rookie out the gate.

Timberwolves look ready to make some noise.

Nice to see my boy D'Lo hit some threes for Brooklyn. But nothing compared to that crazy swish by Spencer Dinwiddie from the parking lot. WOW. That was wild. He was in the zone. Pelicans looked interesting...and Kyrie is already showing promise for the Celtics. Cavaliers looked solid in that scrimmage.

We'll see when the season starts, but overall, pre-season has been pretty cool so far. Porzingis looks ready to ball, too. I ain't watched the Thunder/Rockets game yet, though.

kobe4thewinbang
10-04-2017, 11:04 PM
Oh, yeah, Kuzma is ice-cold. Not afraid to take big shots to get them within striking distance. He's gonna be good.

GREATNESS ONE
10-04-2017, 11:06 PM
At what point did the NBA forum turn into a constant shouting match between Lakers fans and Sixers fans? Are you guys just fighting over which team is going to be more mediocre this season? Because I can assure you that both of your teams suck.

:laugh2: I hate you lol

AllBall
10-04-2017, 11:17 PM
Ben Simmons is getting that ROY just like Blake Griffin did. Getting that year off while watching really helps.

ewing
10-04-2017, 11:18 PM
I agree. with westb and the fast pace i also believe that he will average about 26 but it will not translate into a much improved team. His stats are very hollow to me. His 26 will translate to 15 to 18 for George bc of shot distribution

I think they can be good. They will ask Melo to battle and rebound though. I don't know if he can do it over the long haul. I think how healthy he can stay will be a big deal. We see it with teams like SA all the time. Melo might be there and he might be good but how healthy is he going to be at the end. I think we saw a more healthy LeBron last year. He certainly looked more explosive to me then he had in recent years over the course of a season. Melo will get numbers regardless b/c he can get buckets. How impactful he can be will have a lot to do with healthy IMO

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 11:22 PM
Btw, MTM.. making fun of Lonzo but Fultz and Simmons were pretty bad, huh?

lol yea ben simmons was bad... Guess you didnt watch the game right? Every channel is talking about how amazing ben simmons was. Keep being your normal troll self though.

WaDe03
10-04-2017, 11:22 PM
Is Lonzo not playing?

Hell Kuzma looks like the best rookie so far. Lakers got a steal.

kobe4thewinbang
10-04-2017, 11:25 PM
Is Lonzo not playing?

Hell Kuzma looks like the best rookie so far. Lakers got a steal.He can flat out shoot and will easily take the "ice in his veins" spot from D'Lo. I wonder how good his 3PT % will be and how much Coach Walton plays him.

Lakers should just cut Deng and Brewer, though...ugh.

zn23
10-04-2017, 11:25 PM
Lakers are just awful. There's no way around it.

Nuggets have a very strong bench, but this is just pitiful.

mightybosstone
10-04-2017, 11:32 PM
:laugh2: I hate you lol

:hi5:

More-Than-Most
10-04-2017, 11:35 PM
Lakers are just awful. There's no way around it.

Nuggets have a very strong bench, but this is just pitiful.

50 games and playoffs bruh

zn23
10-04-2017, 11:42 PM
50 games and playoffs bruh

I've watched all three of their preseason games. Absolutely nothing they've shown suggest they'll even win 35 games.

They could be a playoff team in the future, like 3 years or so. But this year, there's no way.

Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Nuggets, Wolves, Thunder, Blazers, Pelicans, Jazz and even the Clippers are all superior teams.

Lakers + Giants
10-04-2017, 11:46 PM
hmm... how is speaking the truth being defensive? I basically agreed with him.. Fultz was **** :shrug:

That is basically the equivalent of simmons being **** and me coming in and saying how terrible lonzo is lol... Ingram has been poopoo all last year and this year it doesnt seem to have changed after 2 games... of course its just 2 games.

that's not what u did tho. You could've just accepted it like how we do, when you post Ball sucks cuz of X and Y you don't hear me bring up the 76ers, why? Because frankly idgaf about another irrelevant team, i already got my sorry *** team to worry about. As long as Lonzo and Ingram are bad ima be upset because they're playing like **** im not gonna say ok I'll accept it cuz the 76ers rookies are bad too... no, like I said, I don't judge our young core based on other young cores, im only worried about ours. You on the other hand took the latter route and basically said you were cool with your rookie being bad because ours has been bad too lmao...

Lakers + Giants
10-04-2017, 11:50 PM
I've watched all three of their preseason games. Absolutely nothing they've shown suggest they'll even win 35 games.

They could be a playoff team in the future, like 3 years or so. But this year, there's no way.

Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Nuggets, Wolves, Thunder, Blazers, Pelicans, Jazz and even the Clippers are all superior teams.

If Ball and Ingram were playing solid would lakers be above any of those teams still? Hell No. Why? Because the West is ****in stacked, it has nothing to do with their young core though, the West is just that tough, now more than ever. Oh, and I know you're not talking about young cores, I'm just making a point, we were going to lose a lot this year regardless.

More-Than-Most
10-05-2017, 12:14 AM
that's not what u did tho. You could've just accepted it like how we do, when you post Ball sucks cuz of X and Y you don't hear me bring up the 76ers, why? Because frankly idgaf about another irrelevant team, i already got my sorry *** team to worry about. As long as Lonzo and Ingram are bad ima be upset because they're playing like **** im not gonna say ok I'll accept it cuz the 76ers rookies are bad too... no, like I said, I don't judge our young core based on other young cores, im only worried about ours. You on the other hand took the latter route and basically said you were cool with your rookie being bad because ours has been bad too lmao...

no worries ingram is going to be fantastic... ball is the bust.

More-Than-Most
10-05-2017, 12:15 AM
Is Lonzo not playing?

Hell Kuzma looks like the best rookie so far. Lakers got a steal.

injury bruh... that means if you are going by flashes logic is is injury prone... 2 games and injured.

Lakers + Giants
10-05-2017, 12:31 AM
no worries ingram is going to be fantastic... ball is the bust.

no *****, it's both. LMFAO

Don't try to sugarcoat me one way and **** me the other.

IKnowHoops
10-05-2017, 12:36 AM
Hope Ben Simmons can stay healthy and have a great career. He seems like kinda of a douche but I've only heard him talk/type a few things, so I'll reserve judgement.

I think if Lonzo doesn't win ROY, Simmons will have a really good chance too.

I like Lonzo...Simmons is much better and will win rookie of the year easily.

More-Than-Most
10-05-2017, 01:13 AM
no *****, it's both. LMFAO

Don't try to sugarcoat me one way and **** me the other.

i love ingram... always have. His defense alone will make him a top player in the game

Lakers + Giants
10-05-2017, 01:24 AM
i love ingram... always have. His defense alone will make him a top player in the game

Kuzma >>>

:drool:

I hope like hell we can somehow someway package randle+ not Ingram/Ball/Kuzma + Deng. Would love to see Ingram at the 3 and Kuz at the 4 instead of Randle. I actually like Randle too but He'd have to be included if we want any shot at dumping Deng, would probably have to add Zu or Nance as well.

ewing
10-05-2017, 06:35 AM
lol yea ben simmons was bad... Guess you didnt watch the game right? Every channel is talking about how amazing ben simmons was. Keep being your normal troll self though.

no one is talking about his 6 points in a preseason game except sixers homers.

ewing
10-05-2017, 06:39 AM
I like Lonzo...Simmons is much better and will win rookie of the year easily.

I wouldn't pick either. Lonzo is a 19 point guard tasked with running a team that doesn't have go to scorers. Thats a tough ask and Simmon's can't hit the side of a barn with a basketball. I think shooters/scorers have an easier time adapting.

TheDish87
10-05-2017, 08:38 AM
Btw, MTM.. making fun of Lonzo but Fultz and Simmons were pretty bad, huh?

lol wut Simmons was bad? 6-9-7 with 1 TO. Fultz did struggle to shoot though but he did protect the ball too with just 1 TO as well. But Simmons looked pretty good for a dude who hasnt played ball since last June

tp13baby
10-05-2017, 10:32 AM
i love ingram... always have. His defense alone will make him a top player in the game

This is an overreaction. Ingram has shown me little to nothing. Potential is what gets everyone hot and heavy over him.

GREATNESS ONE
10-05-2017, 11:40 AM
This is an overreaction. Ingram has shown me little to nothing. Potential is what gets everyone hot and heavy over him.

He seems to have the handles and length but damn he needs to add 30lbs of muscle. He's so skinny and yes knocked off the ball consistently. I do think he has what it takes to get to the next level, I mean, the kid is 20years old.

WaDe03
10-05-2017, 12:31 PM
Kuzma is what Lakers fans thought Ingram would be.....

FlashBolt
10-05-2017, 12:45 PM
Kuzma is what Lakers fans thought Ingram would be.....

Lakers fans are happy Kuzma is much better than everyone thought because now they have an even better nucleus... Idk why people think this is a bad thing for the Lakers. Ingram still has insane potential and he came on strong in the latter half of last year. You guys are putting way too much emphasis on the preseason. KD had one of the worst preseasons I've ever seen from a superstar player. Dude was straight up garbage and they were already talking about him struggling to score because he was too thin. Reg season came upon us and you could tell scoring was not a problem whatsoever. LeBron James had a terrible preseason, too. No one honestly cares. Preseason is mostly for coaches to insert lineup changes and rotational pieces and not for a player to showcase how good they are..

WaDe03
10-05-2017, 01:45 PM
Ingram definitely has a lot of potential. He's just behind Ball and Kuzma right now imo and I don't think that should be the case with his size and skill set. Still remains to be seen but I'm not impressed so far.

FlashBolt
10-05-2017, 02:24 PM
Ingram definitely has a lot of potential. He's just behind Ball and Kuzma right now imo and I don't think that should be the case with his size and skill set. Still remains to be seen but I'm not impressed so far.

How is he behind Ball and Kuzma? Based off what? These are just invalid arguments because there in so sample size from all three players for anyone to make a judgement. You need at least two more seasons to truly gauge where these guys are at. They're still way too raw and Kuzma seems like a Klay Thompson-like player moreso than someone who can be your first option. They gotta get some real games in, too. Like not some fake crap where no one cares or you're stat-stuffing on a terrible team by default of your high USG%.

Saddletramp
10-05-2017, 02:29 PM
Penalty!!! Resting is not allowed!

Nene missed the first preseason game due to "rest". That's the explanation I heard, anyway.

TheDish87
10-05-2017, 02:52 PM
Sixers also rested Saric last night. Guess the new rules only applies to reg season

More-Than-Most
10-05-2017, 03:08 PM
Lakers fans are happy Kuzma is much better than everyone thought because now they have an even better nucleus... Idk why people think this is a bad thing for the Lakers. Ingram still has insane potential and he came on strong in the latter half of last year. You guys are putting way too much emphasis on the preseason. KD had one of the worst preseasons I've ever seen from a superstar player. Dude was straight up garbage and they were already talking about him struggling to score because he was too thin. Reg season came upon us and you could tell scoring was not a problem whatsoever. LeBron James had a terrible preseason, too. No one honestly cares. Preseason is mostly for coaches to insert lineup changes and rotational pieces and not for a player to showcase how good they are..

you praise kuzma then say people put way to much into preseason to cover for ingram ball? do you not see how stupid that is? You are right though... preseason is ****.

FlashBolt
10-05-2017, 03:30 PM
you praise kuzma then say people put way to much into preseason to cover for ingram ball? do you not see how stupid that is? You are right though... preseason is ****.

How did I praise Kuzma? I'm just saying that Lakers fan should be happy they got Kuzma because he definitely seems better than he was selected. I never covered for Ingram and Ball. I simply said that preseason is not enough to judge these players by. I also mentioned how KD+leBron sucked too. Wait for the real games.

Scoots
10-05-2017, 04:27 PM
At least preseason is only 4 games now.


I noticed the Warriors regular season travel miles are WAY down with the new scheduling ... so they travel to China for the pre-season and jack those miles back up :)

WaDe03
10-05-2017, 04:59 PM
How is he behind Ball and Kuzma? Based off what? These are just invalid arguments because there in so sample size from all three players for anyone to make a judgement. You need at least two more seasons to truly gauge where these guys are at. They're still way too raw and Kuzma seems like a Klay Thompson-like player moreso than someone who can be your first option. They gotta get some real games in, too. Like not some fake crap where no one cares or you're stat-stuffing on a terrible team by default of your high USG%.

We don't need 2 seasons, I'm talking about at this current moment from what I've seen give me those 2 over Ingram.

aman_13
10-05-2017, 09:48 PM
I thought my take on Lonzo was fair. I'm not saying he's going to bust, just that he's got a long way to go. Considering the hype around him, albeit mostly generated by his father, I thought I'd see more.

I didn't see him play much in college. Just don't have the time anymore to follow college basketball.

More-Than-Most
10-05-2017, 10:28 PM
I thought my take on Lonzo was fair. I'm not saying he's going to bust, just that he's got a long way to go. Considering the hype around him, albeit mostly generated by his father, I thought I'd see more.

I didn't see him play much in college. Just don't have the time anymore to follow college basketball.

my take has always been the same... pretty much the same with simmons as well which is why i wanted ingram... Lonzo is slow as ****... cant shoot and cant defend but has amazing vision... simmons cant shoot... he can defend and has better vision but simmons has size and quickness and his shot isnt as ****... I considered simmons either one of the best in basketball or a bust because of that so my take on ball is either a good player or a massive bust... He will never be great. If I had that opinion about simmons then my lonzo opinion will be far worse considering simmons upside/size/ability/quickness is all that much better

5ass
10-06-2017, 12:50 AM
Lonzo > DBLO

Don't be an ***, I am an avid die hard UCLA fan. I didn't say he would be great because of SL pendejo. I took everything into account, especially his college career.


You guys are calling him a bust after 2 pre-season games! So whatever, guess time will tell :) one of us will be very wrong. You think he will be a bust, I think he will be great.
Thats not what happened. You insisted Lonzo is going to be a good player as a rookie and that he will lead the Lakers to 40 wins because "he's a transcendent player".

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 02:00 AM
Thats not what happened. You insisted Lonzo is going to be a good player as a rookie and that he will lead the Lakers to 40 wins because "he's a transcendent player".

4 summerleague games against non nba talent/coaches and he said that... Now that lonzo has been **** in 2 games he is saying its just 2 games... Its pointless... He ignored everyones concerns because lonzo became a laker... he then went the homer route... Now he just tries to spin it how he wants until next game when lonzo finally has a ok to good game... then it will be rinse/repeat where ball has a few bad games followed by a good game... Ball is only as good as his team makes him out to be... if his team hits shot he will look amazing... that isnt number 2 pick talent though.

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FlashBolt
10-06-2017, 01:38 PM
We don't need 2 seasons, I'm talking about at this current moment from what I've seen give me those 2 over Ingram.

At the current moment, I'd take J.R. Smith over LeBron because J.R. Smith has played better than LeBron so far.. it's a stupid narrative. And Curry sucked nuts the first preseason game going like 2-9 from three. No one gonna say anything? Why? Cause it doesn't mean much. Preseason is so coaches can figure out rotations and lineups. It's completely different from the actual game and doesn't really represent how well a player will be. Kuzma looks great now but wait till teams start figuring out how to play against him.. right now, no one knows who he is.

FlashBolt
10-06-2017, 01:38 PM
Batum injured now.

Damn... was going to draft him on fantasy league. Probably get him a week before he is ready though.

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 05:57 PM
At the current moment, I'd take J.R. Smith over LeBron because J.R. Smith has played better than LeBron so far.. it's a stupid narrative. And Curry sucked nuts the first preseason game going like 2-9 from three. No one gonna say anything? Why? Cause it doesn't mean much. Preseason is so coaches can figure out rotations and lineups. It's completely different from the actual game and doesn't really represent how well a player will be. Kuzma looks great now but wait till teams start figuring out how to play against him.. right now, no one knows who he is.

It's not stupid at all, your JR Smith and LeBron comment was though. Based on everything I've seen in summer league and preseason and all of Ingram last season compared to Ball and Kuzma, give me Kuzma at this moment.

ewing
10-06-2017, 06:27 PM
It's not stupid at all, your JR Smith and LeBron comment was though. Based on everything I've seen in summer league and preseason and all of Ingram last season compared to Ball and Kuzma, give me Kuzma at this moment.

it's stupid

lakerfan85
10-06-2017, 06:30 PM
4 summerleague games against non nba talent/coaches and he said that... Now that lonzo has been **** in 2 games he is saying its just 2 games... Its pointless... He ignored everyones concerns because lonzo became a laker... he then went the homer route... Now he just tries to spin it how he wants until next game when lonzo finally has a ok to good game... then it will be rinse/repeat where ball has a few bad games followed by a good game... Ball is only as good as his team makes him out to be... if his team hits shot he will look amazing... that isnt number 2 pick talent though.

Funny that you of all people are calling someone a homer...

warfelg
10-06-2017, 06:37 PM
Funny that you of all people are calling someone a homer...

yup...:sigh:

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 07:40 PM
Funny that you of all people are calling someone a homer...

How am I a homer exactly? I liked ingram over simmons... I love Embiid and he showed he could be a legendary talent like I stated and I said it all depends on his health now... I hate Okafor... I Hated Noel... I liked Holmes... I was all for the tank because I understood the situation.... We had the number 1 pick and I stated id die if we took Lonzo and wanted Fultz or Jackson BEFORE WE GOT THE NUMBER 1 PICK and after.

I said Fultz was **** in the first game :shrug:

IT hater= Sure
Lebron Lover=Yes
Sixer Homer=How?

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 07:49 PM
This is a homer... Its not all laker fans but the majority.

Laker fans-
Omg OKAFOR IS THE 2ND COMING OF Christ and can get 20/10 out of bed...

Lakers Select- DLO

Lakers fans- Okafor is going to suck in todays NBA... DLO was the right choice and has all the tools to become great... His vision and shooting are masterful.

Laker fans before they knew they would get the 2nd pick... Simmons is a talent we have never seen before and could be the next lebron James....

Sixers win the lottery and lakers get the 2nd pick

Lakers fans after- Ingram has as much talent as simmons and is the far better choice.

DLO gets traded- OH THANK GOD HE IS TRASH... even though he had Had a better year than ingram in both of his first years lol



Fun Note I love DLO and Ingram and think both are going to be special :shrug: ... As soon as anybody becomes a laker their fanbase loves them and overrates them and cant ever hate any move made... They were arguing how Mosgod was a good ****ing signing. I can line the faults up and down with my team if we are being honest.

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 07:54 PM
Hell I think iverson is one of the most overrated players ever... I have always said Simmons has lebron like talent but might have the highest bust chance from that draft of the top guys... I loved Noels defense but didnt want him anywhere near the price he was assumed to get and wanted him traded... I hated everything that was TJ for a while... I hated OKA before he entered the league.... I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he joined our team but quickly knew he was the trash some of us expected.... But YUP... I am a homer.

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 07:56 PM
it's stupid

Watch your mouth.

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 08:01 PM
back to the game... Simmons is running around like a mad man and its kinda forcing fouls on himself... he is getting fouled as well though and getting no calls... As far as Amir i know nothing at all about him but he looks like he has range.

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 08:07 PM
Cavs got so much better this year.

lakerfan85
10-06-2017, 08:32 PM
Nobody said there was anything wrong with being a homer.. I just said it's funny coming from you...

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 08:33 PM
916459837898285057

Washed.....

ewing
10-06-2017, 08:34 PM
back to the game... Simmons is running around like a mad man and its kinda forcing fouls on himself... he is getting fouled as well though and getting no calls... As far as Amir i know nothing at all about him but he looks like he has range.


another monster night. it should be highlighted on every channel

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 08:35 PM
At the half:

Wade: 14-5 7-11 from the field and a poster

Rose: 15-3-3 5-8 from the field

These guys are on minimum contract. As guys in the 3-5 option range at this stage of their careers they will be very solid for the Cavs, this is what I've been trying to tell y'all. Same reason Melo will have a very solid year.

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 08:40 PM
So when will Embiid be back?

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 08:46 PM
So when will Embiid be back?

during the preseason... One of the games... He is def starting the year... and he said he will do some preseason.

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 08:47 PM
another monster night. it should be highlighted on every channel

if he was a knick or laker it damn well would be.

tredigs
10-06-2017, 08:49 PM
Simmons looks annoyingly unimpressive tonight. Hoping for big things from him but haven't seen them with any consistency yet.

warfelg
10-06-2017, 08:56 PM
Simmons looks annoyingly unimpressive tonight. Hoping for big things from him but haven't seen them with any consistency yet.

I mean...it is only his 2nd game in 12+ months.

ewing
10-06-2017, 09:00 PM
I mean...it is only his 2nd game in 12+ months.

Between last years summer league and this years preseason he is shooting about 10% from the field and people keep saying he looks great!


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WaDe03
10-06-2017, 09:01 PM
during the preseason... One of the games... He is def starting the year... and he said he will do some preseason.

Good. I hope he stays healthy but I don't see it.

tredigs
10-06-2017, 09:01 PM
I mean...it is only his 2nd game in 12+ months.

For sure. Just looking for a little more aggressiveness and solid instincts. Not a good night for him.

warfelg
10-06-2017, 09:07 PM
For sure. Just looking for a little more aggressiveness and solid instincts. Not a good night for him.

Not making excuses but early foul trouble causes guys to pull back a bit. But flip side:
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916464388898459648
916464055421931520

He makes some really hard things look easy.

More-Than-Most
10-06-2017, 09:07 PM
For sure. Just looking for a little more aggressiveness and solid instincts. Not a good night for him.

He has been insanely aggressive... he is driving in my opinion to much... every play he drives which is why his shooting pct to me isnt an issue right now... those shots will fall... he is taking no jumpers at all... I wish he would because that is what he should be working on this preseason... hell id rather him take 20 jumpers and shoot 10 percent then drive all game and settle. His speed/Passing/Play making and his defense is there... Its his shot that isnt.

His over aggressiveness got him 3 of his 4 fouls which is 4 of his 5 turnovers.

tredigs
10-06-2017, 09:13 PM
He has been insanely aggressive... he is driving in my opinion to much... every play he drives which is why his shooting pct to me isnt an issue right now... those shots will fall... he is taking no jumpers at all... I wish he would because that is what he should be working on this preseason... hell id rather him take 20 jumped and shoot 10 percent then drive all game and settle. His speed/Passing/Play making and his defense is there... Its his shot that isnt.

I watched most of the first half and the start of the 2nd tonight (missed the start of the 1st where he got 2 of his 3 early fouls), and he was not drawing any attention or looking to get the ball offensively. I saw one terrible drive that he lucked in a fallaway layup from 15 feet looking for contact that wasn't there, but not much else that was productive. His shot is clearly a mess, and as a playmaker (very good one), he needs it to be or the lanes just won't be there unless he's in transition. The speed/athleticism is nice, but you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think his D is there. His D is a wreck.

FlashBolt
10-06-2017, 09:14 PM
Not making excuses but early foul trouble causes guys to pull back a bit. But flip side:
916465634900189191
916464388898459648
916464055421931520

He makes some really hard things look easy.

No offense but there is nothing special about any of those..

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 09:46 PM
Cavs starters look very good, even without the best player in the world and IT. They'll come back and that bench will get deeper. From what I've seen so far, Wade should easily start over JR but they may Put WAde on the bench so they have someone who can create for himself and others and take over games with that 2nd unit.

WaDe03
10-06-2017, 09:51 PM
Simmons will be fine, for sure better than Ingram. You can tell he knows the game well and is a smart player, it'll slow down for him like it does all the other greats.

Scoots
10-06-2017, 10:30 PM
Does KAT look a little out of shape?

tredigs
10-06-2017, 11:05 PM
Does KAT look a little out of shape?

I watched the China game. He looked about the same to me to be honest. Outside game looked great and he's going to continue his borderline top-10 production that he started in the 2nd half of last season. His defense still needs a lot of work though. He's lost a lot.

Gibby23
10-07-2017, 01:00 AM
Simmons is like an older Lonzo Ball that doesn't pass as well and looks like Lonzo rebounds better. Those plays up above are nothing special.

More-Than-Most
10-07-2017, 01:15 AM
Simmons is like an older Lonzo Ball that doesn't pass as well and looks like Lonzo rebounds better. Those plays up above are nothing special.

lmfao i was waiting to see how long it would take before you came in.. NOBODY except lakers fans would take ball over simmons... Simmons is bigger/faster/better passer and neither can shoot... simmons is a bigger/stronger/much better version whom is older but has so very much more upside.

Gibby23
10-07-2017, 01:33 AM
lmfao i was waiting to see how long it would take before you came in.. NOBODY except lakers fans would take ball over simmons... Simmons is bigger/faster/better passer and neither can shoot... simmons is a bigger/stronger/much better version whom is older but has so very much more upside.
Ball is a better shooter and passer. Simmons isn't that good. Ball is a PG, Simmons is a PF that wishes he was Ball and wishes he was in LA. Nobody wants to be in Philly especially if you come.from another country.

ewing
10-07-2017, 06:19 AM
lmfao i was waiting to see how long it would take before you came in.. NOBODY except lakers fans would take ball over simmons... Simmons is bigger/faster/better passer and neither can shoot... simmons is a bigger/stronger/much better version whom is older but has so very much more upside.


I'd take Ball first though I truly have no idea how good Simmons will be (i think its silly for anyone to have a solid opinion on him yet). I admit I do hold the clear distain he had for having to play a year of college ball against him. regardless I would bet my house that neither guy is close to as good this year as sixers fans think Simmons will be and Lakers fans think Ball will be.

ewing
10-07-2017, 08:23 AM
Watching the Sixers game from last night. In the first quarter Simmons had the ball every possession. I'm not close to sold but if he has the ball in his hands that much he'll get some numbers. Dude is also definitely big and fast. I also thought Tatum looked real smooth.

ewing
10-07-2017, 08:32 AM
He has been insanely aggressive... he is driving in my opinion to much... every play he drives which is why his shooting pct to me isnt an issue right now... those shots will fall... he is taking no jumpers at all... I wish he would because that is what he should be working on this preseason... hell id rather him take 20 jumpers and shoot 10 percent then drive all game and settle. His speed/Passing/Play making and his defense is there... Its his shot that isnt.

His over aggressiveness got him 3 of his 4 fouls which is 4 of his 5 turnovers.

He was driving b/c were are giving him mad room (in the first half at least- Tatum would give him the J and shade him to help on the drive). If no one defends him til he get to 12 feet he doesn't have plays to make for teammates. His handle did look nice though. I worry about guys that big that want to be play makers when guys pressure them. I don't think that will be a problem.

warfelg
10-07-2017, 08:42 AM
Watching the Sixers game from last night. In the first quarter Simmons had the ball every possession. I'm not close to sold but if he has the ball in his hands that much he'll get some numbers. Dude is also definitely big and fast. I also thought Tatum looked real smooth.

I'm hoping in the regular season we see a closer to 50/50 split between Ben and Fultz.

Then again, it depends on how teams decide to matchup with us. If the cover Ben with a 6'4" PG just because we called Ben a PG, I want the ball in his hands. He'll have a 6" 20-50 lbs advantage. If they decide to line up more traditionally then put the ball in Fultz's hands.

I tell you what though....three matchups I'm looking forward to for Ben: Draymond, GIannis, and LBJ. Those three are going to be covering him for sure.

warfelg
10-07-2017, 08:44 AM
He was driving b/c were are giving him mad room (in the first half at least- Tatum would give him the J and shade him to help on the drive). If no one defends him til he get to 12 feet he doesn't have plays to make for teammates. His handle did look nice though. I worry about guys that big that want to be play makers when guys pressure them. I don't think that will be a problem.

He's playing too fast too. Slow down and let guys help you get some free space.

ewing
10-07-2017, 08:51 AM
I'm hoping in the regular season we see a closer to 50/50 split between Ben and Fultz.

Then again, it depends on how teams decide to matchup with us. If the cover Ben with a 6'4" PG just because we called Ben a PG, I want the ball in his hands. He'll have a 6" 20-50 lbs advantage. If they decide to line up more traditionally then put the ball in Fultz's hands.

I tell you what though....three matchups I'm looking forward to for Ben: Draymond, GIannis, and LBJ. Those three are going to be covering him for sure.

I only watched the first half. I was impressed with some of his tools and i think they fit the sixers scheme. That said things can get real stagnate in the 1/2 when the guy with the ball isn't a threat to score- even if he has a mismatch. He is also going to have convince me that he has the motor to really take advantage of his physical gifts. Based on his LSU tenure I have doubts. I think he really didn't want to be there and might be a different guy in the NBA. Wait and see.

warfelg
10-07-2017, 08:55 AM
I only watched the first half. I was impressed with some of his tools and i think they fit the sixers scheme. That said things can get real stagnate in the 1/2 when the guy with the ball isn't a threat to score- even if he has a mismatch. He is also going to have convince me that he has the motor to really take advantage of his physical gifts. Based on his LSU tenure I have doubts. I think he really didn't want to be there and might be a different guy in the NBA. Wait and see.

He's a threat to score. Why else would someone pack the lane on him?

Frankly this team is built to go outside in. Ben's going to have the ball, attack the lane, they'll collapse and he'll kick out to Fultz/JJ/RoCo. If they're hitting their shots those defenders won't be able to cheat in and Ben will get his looks.

Plus, we haven't had our starters play together yet, haven't had our 6th man play either. So I'm not worried about it yet.

warfelg
10-07-2017, 08:56 AM
Does KAT look a little out of shape?

I wouldn't say out of shape.....I think he looks...I dunno, depressed? Like it was his team for 2 years, then suddenly Jimmy is brought in and everyone says it's Jimmy's team, so KAT's kinda like "come on man!"

ewing
10-07-2017, 08:58 AM
He's a threat to score. Why else would someone pack the lane on him?

Frankly this team is built to go outside in. Ben's going to have the ball, attack the lane, they'll collapse and he'll kick out to Fultz/JJ/RoCo. If they're hitting their shots those defenders won't be able to cheat in and Ben will get his looks.

Plus, we haven't had our starters play together yet, haven't had our 6th man play either. So I'm not worried about it yet.

Really? I'd make him prove it :). In other news the Knicks sat KP and the French kid last night. this team is really keeps you on the edge of your seat!

warfelg
10-07-2017, 09:03 AM
Really? I'd make him prove it :). In other news the Knicks sat KP and the French kid last night. this team is really keeps you on the edge of your seat!

LOL....what do you make of KP publicly stating that he's refusing to play center?

ewing
10-07-2017, 09:03 AM
Wow, I hadn't realized that magical Felton to Carmello connection had been reestablished! gonna be fun to watch

ewing
10-07-2017, 09:07 AM
LOL....what do you make of KP publicly stating that he's refusing to play center?

didn't care for it. i don't think he is ideally a FT center yet but if you can get the pace up and have him as your 5 it can be deadly on on both ends. When the games slows he gets pushed around and I guess that makes him feel like he should be a 4. Hopefully has he plays the spot he will warm to it. The Knicks don't need another guy that thinks he can call all the shots, thats for sure.

I think Gomez can give KP some support underneath, keep the pace up, and make it so they are kind of sharing center duties. Unfortunately, i don't think he is the best player of the knicks bigs and I don't know how you justify sitting Lopez with his contract.

Hopefully they play well when they go small and that will make KP change his tune. Right now I think the glut at center can get in the way of his developement

ewing
10-07-2017, 09:15 AM
Wow Steven Adams is ****ing tan

ewing
10-07-2017, 09:15 AM
PJ Tucker looks fat

ewing
10-07-2017, 09:24 AM
Last note on KP not liking the center spot. I think he will get more touches at the center and more scoring opportunities b/c Lopez and Kanter both clog the lane. Most players like getting shots so...

Scoots
10-07-2017, 09:57 AM
I wouldn't say out of shape.....I think he looks...I dunno, depressed? Like it was his team for 2 years, then suddenly Jimmy is brought in and everyone says it's Jimmy's team, so KAT's kinda like "come on man!"

His skills are amazing, but he looked softer and his movements were a half a shade slow. That "learning to be a pro" thing is what teams need vets around to build the culture. That lack of a culture of professional behavior has been an issue with the Wolves for a while.

Scoots
10-07-2017, 09:59 AM
So far Nick Young is not fitting in with the Warriors. Came to camp out of shape, isn't moving the ball, and is playing lackluster defense. If he doesn't change soon he won't be active to start the season. He wouldn't be on the team without an endorsement from Luke Walton, but it looks like Swaggy P didn't get the message yet.

warfelg
10-07-2017, 10:29 AM
His skills are amazing, but he looked softer and his movements were a half a shade slow. That "learning to be a pro" thing is what teams need vets around to build the culture. That lack of a culture of professional behavior has been an issue with the Wolves for a while.

Yea. From my POV just funny itís another team that ďdid it the right wayĒ the last few years and KAT seems disinterested right now.

tp13baby
10-07-2017, 06:56 PM
So far Nick Young is not fitting in with the Warriors. Came to camp out of shape, isn't moving the ball, and is playing lackluster defense. If he doesn't change soon he won't be active to start the season. He wouldn't be on the team without an endorsement from Luke Walton, but it looks like Swaggy P didn't get the message yet.

Are you surprised he is playing....well like Nick Young

FlashBolt
10-07-2017, 08:41 PM
So far Nick Young is not fitting in with the Warriors. Came to camp out of shape, isn't moving the ball, and is playing lackluster defense. If he doesn't change soon he won't be active to start the season. He wouldn't be on the team without an endorsement from Luke Walton, but it looks like Swaggy P didn't get the message yet.

What did you guys expect? He was never a passer but a quick burst off the bench. Warriors don't need that crap but you can't expect a guy like Swaggy to change when he's been the same player his entire career. Dude took his career for granted because he could definitely make more than what he got..

lakerfan85
10-07-2017, 09:05 PM
Swaggy Pee... Lol!!!

Scoots
10-07-2017, 10:37 PM
Are you surprised he is playing....well like Nick Young

No. Just noting it.

Scoots
10-07-2017, 10:46 PM
What did you guys expect? He was never a passer but a quick burst off the bench. Warriors don't need that crap but you can't expect a guy like Swaggy to change when he's been the same player his entire career. Dude took his career for granted because he could definitely make more than what he got..

I'm a little tiny tiny bit surprised just because I assume Walton gave him a recommendation and Young knew what he was getting into. We'll see.

5ass
10-08-2017, 12:49 AM
i really like jonathan simmons. I think he'll take the starting spot from Ross. The Magic needed a wing player like him who can bring some energy and toughness.

Jonathan isaac looked good. There's a lot of defensive potential. He knows how to use his length, and i think he could be a plus defender throughout the season. Not a bad shooter, but not a good one yet.

eDush
10-08-2017, 08:29 AM
So far Nick Young is not fitting in with the Warriors. Came to camp out of shape, isn't moving the ball, and is playing lackluster defense. If he doesn't change soon he won't be active to start the season. He wouldn't be on the team without an endorsement from Luke Walton, but it looks like Swaggy P didn't get the message yet.I warn you about ur Swaggy P that it was a mistake for the Dubs to sign him as he wouldn't fit in while you were praising his shooting ability and defensive prowess. Then again, you also said Mudiay can shoot when he was drafted so that figures :facepalm:

eDush
10-08-2017, 08:38 AM
The best NBA game today is the matchup between the Lakers and Kings. Ball vs my Fox, whom I pick to win ROY. He's gonna make Ball look like a clown on the court just like he did in college when he drop 39 points on Ball's awesome defense :laugh:

Can't wait to follow this game as the Buddy-Fox show will be as worthy as the Splash Bros!
:cheer:

eDush
10-08-2017, 08:41 AM
Fox-------------->Kuzama------------>Ingram-------->Ball

That's better as my Fox was my ROY pick and you can see why now after he went 7 of 8 off the bench along with a sweet block and steal. Ball may win ROY due to the Lakers running their offense thru his hands whether he sux at most every other area of his game other than his court vision passing :nod:

Dude.... It's bad enough that you have a photo of Sam "I can't stay health for half a season" Bradford in your sig, but does it have to be so massive? Seriously, I would consider finding another photo that doesn't take up an entire computer screen.Sorry it's done :(

Scoots
10-08-2017, 11:24 AM
i really like jonathan simmons. I think he'll take the starting spot from Ross. The Magic needed a wing player like him who can bring some energy and toughness.

Jonathan isaac looked good. There's a lot of defensive potential. He knows how to use his length, and i think he could be a plus defender throughout the season. Not a bad shooter, but not a good one yet.

Simmons is not lacking in confidence that's for sure. He goes all out all the time and he's got that Spurs game knowledge so he makes the right play most of the time. He may be a steal.

I like the way Isaac moves. He's raw but he could be very good. This draft hasn't disappointed like some recent drafts have.

Scoots
10-08-2017, 11:24 AM
I warn you about ur Swaggy P that it was a mistake for the Dubs to sign him as he wouldn't fit in while you were praising his shooting ability and defensive prowess. Then again, you also said Mudiay can shoot when he was drafted so that figures :facepalm:

Stop attributing things to me please.

GoferKing_
10-08-2017, 01:08 PM
You all know Jonathon Simmons is 28 years old?

Scoots
10-08-2017, 01:16 PM
You all know Jonathon Simmons is 28 years old?

Yes. Why?

GoferKing_
10-08-2017, 01:58 PM
Just asking. I personally was shocked.

kdspurman
10-08-2017, 05:16 PM
Simmons is not lacking in confidence that's for sure. He goes all out all the time and he's got that Spurs game knowledge so he makes the right play most of the time. He may be a steal.

I like the way Isaac moves. He's raw but he could be very good. This draft hasn't disappointed like some recent drafts have.

He just needs to work on his decision making and shooting. Inconsistent shooter and sometimes out of control.

Definitely not lacking confidence that's for sure lol

5ass
10-08-2017, 06:27 PM
Simmons is not lacking in confidence that's for sure. He goes all out all the time and he's got that Spurs game knowledge so he makes the right play most of the time. He may be a steal.

I like the way Isaac moves. He's raw but he could be very good. This draft hasn't disappointed like some recent drafts have.

his confidence is much needed. The Magic were pretty soft the past 1.5 seasons. That year with skiles they were much tougher for only the first half of the season so i think they have it in them. It looks like Simmons energy is infectious, and at 6 mill/yr, i think he's a steal. I would've never expected the Magic to sign him at that price.

Isaac is raw but at the same time i actually think he can be productive off the bench this season. He looks like he knows what he's doing out there and looks like a quick learner so far. He's still very weak, but my biggest issue with him has always been conditioning/asthma. So far he looks much better in preseason than he did in summer league.

lakerfan85
10-08-2017, 07:43 PM
The best NBA game today is the matchup between the Lakers and Kings. Ball vs my Fox, whom I pick to win ROY. He's gonna make Ball look like a clown on the court just like he did in college when he drop 39 points on Ball's awesome defense :laugh:

Can't wait to follow this game as the Buddy-Fox show will be as worthy as the Splash Bros!
:cheer:

Ball isn't playing... He's most likely out for the rest of the preseason...

tredigs
10-08-2017, 10:56 PM
Pre-season but the starters on both sides were playing for the Warriors/Wolves and that was one of the most epic offensive displays I have ever seen by the Dubs. They are peaking this season. Mortgage your house on them winning the title.

FlashBolt
10-09-2017, 12:07 AM
The best NBA game today is the matchup between the Lakers and Kings. Ball vs my Fox, whom I pick to win ROY. He's gonna make Ball look like a clown on the court just like he did in college when he drop 39 points on Ball's awesome defense :laugh:

Can't wait to follow this game as the Buddy-Fox show will be as worthy as the Splash Bros!
:cheer:

You pretending to watch games outside the Warriors is hilarious...

Lakers + Giants
10-09-2017, 12:24 AM
Pre-season but the starters on both sides were playing for the Warriors/Wolves and that was one of the most epic offensive displays I have ever seen by the Dubs. They are peaking this season. Mortgage your house on them winning the title.

Bovada gonna be fun this year!

GoferKing_
10-09-2017, 03:30 AM
Fox vs Caruso 0-2

FlashBolt
10-10-2017, 08:17 PM
yeh.. not liking the Cavs ball movement. They keep trying to spread the floor with Wade+Rose but no one bites..

GREATNESS ONE
10-10-2017, 10:31 PM
You pretending to watch games outside the Warriors is hilarious...

:laugh:

You're on a roll!!!!! :laugh2:

Vee-Rex
10-11-2017, 12:30 PM
yeh.. not liking the Cavs ball movement. They keep trying to spread the floor with Wade+Rose but no one bites..

They showed flashes, but yeah they didn't play super well. I really think Rose should start with JR, and Wade should be 6th man.

And Kevin Love's performance left a bad taste in my mouth. He's supposed to be the 2nd option right now with IT hurt. 1/12 for 3 points. It's just one preseason game but come on, man. Can't be putting up **** performances like that during the season or we're automatically losing that game.

IKnowHoops
10-11-2017, 06:00 PM
As a Lebron fan, Iíll be the first to say that the game against the bulls was by far the worst ball movement they have had in 3 preseason games. And it was Bronís first preseason game and he was prob the reason for the bad game. Bron needs to keep the ball moving

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 07:50 PM
Boxoffice is on... Sixers game wasnt televised.... Fans werent having that **** with embiid back... Forced comcast to televise it lol

tredigs
10-11-2017, 07:52 PM
Embiid/Simmons: FIRST LOOK -- >

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 08:00 PM
i wish simmons would work on the lesser part of his game man... i dont give a **** about his passing/rebounding/driving... we know he can do it... SHOOT THE ROCK FROM OUTSIDE OF 12 FEET.

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 08:01 PM
Honestly i dont even care if he goes 0-20.... i just want to see him working on it in preseason lol

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 08:15 PM
be jealous of the god... 6 minutes 12pts 4rebounds and a block... BE JEALOUS

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 08:23 PM
Embiid looked awesome as usual. Simmons looking passive and generally like **** again.

he doesnt ****ing shoot... its so infuriating lol

tredigs
10-11-2017, 08:24 PM
Embiid looked awesome as usual. Simmons looking passive and generally like **** again.

tredigs
10-11-2017, 08:30 PM
he doesnt ****ing shoot... its so infuriating lol

Yeah he needs to be able to keep opponents honest to open up his talents and this is his best time to practice.

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 08:33 PM
Joel the god... where is the rust?

tredigs
10-11-2017, 08:37 PM
Embiid 8/9 from the line in 7 minutes. All but 1 legit fouls too. Edit Oops. Jinxed him.

tredigs
10-11-2017, 08:52 PM
One too many whistles but that was awesome to see Embiid back out there looking dominant.

FlashBolt
10-11-2017, 09:02 PM
They showed flashes, but yeah they didn't play super well. I really think Rose should start with JR, and Wade should be 6th man.

And Kevin Love's performance left a bad taste in my mouth. He's supposed to be the 2nd option right now with IT hurt. 1/12 for 3 points. It's just one preseason game but come on, man. Can't be putting up **** performances like that during the season or we're automatically losing that game.

That's what I said in another thread.. No one bites for that Wade+Rose standing in the three point line. They all back up a bit and expect a drive to the rim. It's way too stale of an offensive lineup right now. And they need to rethink Love at center.. I think he's giving up too much size there. Lopez just ate him up like cookies. Love was off all game. The thing with Love is he'll never get consistent performances. He's either really good or really bad. Rarely in-between.



As a Lebron fan, Iíll be the first to say that the game against the bulls was by far the worst ball movement they have had in 3 preseason games. And it was Bronís first preseason game and he was prob the reason for the bad game. Bron needs to keep the ball moving

Yeah, Bron was rusty but then again, Wade+Rose aren't floor spacing at all so there was a lack of ball movement and just guys running around trying to get open. Just doesn't work if both of your guards are below average shooters. Crowder's defense looked really good but I saw him rotating on every guy.. Cavs need to clean that up. And Crowder can do much more than stand there.

c.c.
10-11-2017, 09:08 PM
I see a lot potential in Malik Monk

ewing
10-11-2017, 09:40 PM
I see a lot potential in Malik Monk

i like him

ewing
10-11-2017, 09:43 PM
he doesnt ****ing shoot... its so infuriating lol

he can't. on the other hand while you are annoying about it, your boy is amazing.

More-Than-Most
10-11-2017, 10:06 PM
he can't. on the other hand while you are annoying about it, your boy is amazing.

https://streamable.com/ojcyn

: )

ewing
10-11-2017, 10:08 PM
https://streamable.com/ojcyn

: )

that's a lucky shot but i really think he is MVP talent.

IKnowHoops
10-12-2017, 01:03 AM
That's what I said in another thread.. No one bites for that Wade+Rose standing in the three point line. They all back up a bit and expect a drive to the rim. It's way too stale of an offensive lineup right now. And they need to rethink Love at center.. I think he's giving up too much size there. Lopez just ate him up like cookies. Love was off all game. The thing with Love is he'll never get consistent performances. He's either really good or really bad. Rarely in-between.




Yeah, Bron was rusty but then again, Wade+Rose aren't floor spacing at all so there was a lack of ball movement and just guys running around trying to get open. Just doesn't work if both of your guards are below average shooters. Crowder's defense looked really good but I saw him rotating on every guy.. Cavs need to clean that up. And Crowder can do much more than stand there.

I'm not worried about wade and rose as long as they are healthy. The first two preseason games they killed it. Brons presence on the court f-ed up the chemistry and freedom the players were previously playing with. Once Bron gets with the program they will be fine. I'll eat crow gladly, but I confidently say Rose and Wade will exceed your expectations this year by a good margin.

IKnowHoops
10-12-2017, 01:07 AM
Look, they have had 2 great games of beautiful free flowing basketball. They have had one terrible game. They are professionals with film to study and I am confident that they will adjust and resume doing what worked so well.

More-Than-Most
10-12-2017, 01:08 AM
Well to put it simply... Rose shouldnt be in the NBA anymore... And wade should be a teams 7th best player... meaning he should be coming off the bench.

FlashBolt
10-12-2017, 10:32 AM
Well to put it simply... Rose shouldnt be in the NBA anymore... And wade should be a teams 7th best player... meaning he should be coming off the bench.

Rose has looked pretty good. It's just a bad fit for the entire Cavs team when you have three guys who need the ball and none of them can spread the floor. It's literally like Butler+Wade+Rondo again. It'll be smoother when IT comes back but for now, you simply have to bench Wade and start J.R.. Cavs trying to give Wade that confidence to start is going to hurt them.

More-Than-Most
10-13-2017, 10:03 PM
simmons actually took some shots and made them from not under the bucket... i am so happy

kdspurman
10-13-2017, 10:22 PM
Houston went 15/53 from 3 tonight ... 0_o

tredigs
10-13-2017, 10:44 PM
Houston went 15/53 from 3 tonight ... 0_o As terrible as it seems it's just under 43% equivalent from 2pt range (bad - but not that unusual). Harden's 1 for his last 16 from 3 though lol. I imagine Houston will average around 45 attempts from 3 a game this year.

kdspurman
10-13-2017, 11:10 PM
As terrible as it seems it's just under 43% equivalent from 2pt range (bad - but not that unusual). Harden's 1 for his last 16 from 3 though lol. I imagine Houston will average around 45 attempts from 3 a game this year.

Yea.. when you put it like that it ain't so bad, but still pretty bad. Didn't realize Harden has been so poor either.. CP3 is going to be frustrated at times, I saw it tonight a bit with him.

They'll be interesting to watch. I heard D'Antoni put an emphasis on Defense a bit this summer.

More-Than-Most
10-13-2017, 11:55 PM
As terrible as it seems it's just under 43% equivalent from 2pt range (bad - but not that unusual). Harden's 1 for his last 16 from 3 though lol. I imagine Houston will average around 45 attempts from 3 a game this year.

do you wanna know how good your team is? lol i would actually cheer for that **** to upset the warriors if they end up playing the rockets.

Scoots
10-14-2017, 01:26 PM
Yea.. when you put it like that it ain't so bad, but still pretty bad. Didn't realize Harden has been so poor either.. CP3 is going to be frustrated at times, I saw it tonight a bit with him.

They'll be interesting to watch. I heard D'Antoni put an emphasis on Defense a bit this summer.

Well ... he put a D'Antoni level of emphasis on D :)

I'm wondering how long it will be before CP3 gets after Harden and Harden walks away shaking his head.