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WaDe03
09-24-2017, 10:00 PM
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Where do you think he'll end up?

warfelg
09-24-2017, 10:02 PM
I would love to see a Miami reunion, but that's doubtful.

How much would he be willing to be a cog for Pops, but it would be great for his health with the way Pops rests guys.

I think it's Cleveland in the end. He's going to make them sweat it out though.

kdspurman
09-24-2017, 10:05 PM
I know he respects Pop a ton, they've got a good relationship. But in the end, he'll probably play with LeBron. Might take his time to "decide" to miss some camp stuff lol

kdspurman
09-24-2017, 10:09 PM
Don't know if money matters at this point for Wade
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warfelg
09-24-2017, 10:13 PM
Don't know if money matters at this point for Wade
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Irony that the "what it takes to get Wade" is the exact amount the Thunder have left to spend.

zn23
09-24-2017, 10:16 PM
Cleveland is the obvious choice. They're in the East, they'll likely get back to the Finals again.

kdspurman
09-24-2017, 10:18 PM
Irony that the "what it takes to get Wade" is the exact amount the Thunder have left to spend.

yea, I think that's a real possibility. I'd probably have the order as Cle>OKC>SA>Mia .

SportsFanatic10
09-24-2017, 10:22 PM
Irony that the "what it takes to get Wade" is the exact amount the Thunder have left to spend.

Not really since that is the vet min for Wade, and teams can go over the cap when signing players to min deals.

FlashBolt
09-24-2017, 10:23 PM
Wade does not want to go through the Western Conference warzone.. easy choice is Cleveland. I think between the four banana bros, Wade+LeBron are the closest.

Raps08-09 Champ
09-24-2017, 10:31 PM
Cleveland or OKC I suppose.

WaDe03
09-24-2017, 10:35 PM
I think it'll be Cleveland but with the way OKC is getting **** done this summer, it could be them.

Honestly would be disappointed if he went back to Miami as I want to see him on a contender, go to Miami right before you retire.

Eagles4Lyfe
09-24-2017, 10:58 PM
Why would Wade join the same guy who ditched him?? Makes no sense for him to join Lebron

KnickNyKnick
09-24-2017, 11:06 PM
id join Cleveland and cruise to the finals. Too many detours out west.

Dade County
09-24-2017, 11:15 PM
HEAT

He already moved his kids back to school down here awhile ago.

Hopefully he takes a 6man role.

Wade n Fade
09-24-2017, 11:16 PM
I see him going back home to Miami because Cleveland is in disarray in terms of stability, especially who knows how deep the ripple effects are, especially since the Cavs were looking at trades with Shumpert, Love, Irving (before Boston), etc. Miami can offer the most money since Wade is about the $ and not about the rings. Plus, I think he would like to play with UD again as well.

Wade n Fade
09-24-2017, 11:21 PM
HEAT

He already moved his kids back to school down here awhile ago.

Hopefully he takes a 6man role.

Does that mean anything though because people transfer for jobs time after time and have to pull kids out of school mid year? Or Gabrielle Wade could just look after the kids in So. Flo and Wade can be in OKC or San Antonio.

I think Riley/Spo should make Wade a starter, but give more minutes to Waiters.

MJNetsIsles
09-24-2017, 11:24 PM
"If Jesus payin' Lebron, I'm paying Dwayne Wade." -Jay Z

Come to Brooklyn! Carry us to the Playoffs.

MJNetsIsles
09-24-2017, 11:26 PM
Lin, Russell, Wade, Crabbe, Carroll, Booker, Mosgov

JordansBulls
09-24-2017, 11:31 PM
Bulls are the dumbest organization around.

Ty Fast
09-24-2017, 11:36 PM
In all seriousness he should go to Golden State

WaDe03
09-24-2017, 11:37 PM
I see him going back home to Miami because Cleveland is in disarray in terms of stability, especially who knows how deep the ripple effects are, especially since the Cavs were looking at trades with Shumpert, Love, Irving (before Boston), etc. Miami can offer the most money since Wade is about the $ and not about the rings. Plus, I think he would like to play with UD again as well.

Lmao at Wade not being about the rings. Miami has 0 without him.

WaDe03
09-24-2017, 11:39 PM
Melo and PG, LeBron and the Cavs, and the Lakers have reached out so far. I'm sure more have as well.

Wade said he will take tonight and part of tomorrow to talk to teams and players.

Bostonjorge
09-24-2017, 11:46 PM
Okc will be perfect. Wade becomes the super 6th man on Okcís weaker bench. Wade is a perfect change of pace over Roberson.

aman_13
09-24-2017, 11:47 PM
I bet Melo convinces him to join OKC.

5ass
09-24-2017, 11:52 PM
Cavs for sure.

Big Zo
09-25-2017, 12:00 AM
Does that mean anything though because people transfer for jobs time after time and have to pull kids out of school mid year? Or Gabrielle Wade could just look after the kids in So. Flo and Wade can be in OKC or San Antonio.

I think Riley/Spo should make Wade a starter, but give more minutes to Waiters.

That may not mean anything, but it is somewhat noteworthy considering he even bothered to move them out of there when he left. Could also mean that he doenít wanna subject them to living in a crappy city like Cleveland, but weíll see.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 12:04 AM
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Jeffy25
09-25-2017, 12:05 AM
Don't know if money matters at this point for Wade
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Thanks

More-Than-Most
09-25-2017, 12:23 AM
Why the **** is wade still talked about so much... HE IS DONE... He is a 7th off the bench at best for a championship team.

Heediot
09-25-2017, 12:58 AM
Cleveland or OKC.

SoulBrotha
09-25-2017, 01:35 AM
Back to the Heat!!!

naps
09-25-2017, 01:37 AM
Why the **** is wade still talked about so much... HE IS DONE... He is a 7th off the bench at best for a championship team.

Haha...funny guy.




Not really.




More like a .....I dont wanna say it.

lakers squad
09-25-2017, 02:31 AM
Cavs have to be the favorite, I could see him landing w the heat or thunder as well, doubt he join's the spurs, jmo...I would like to see the Lakers make a push for him as a Lakers fan tho!

ewing
09-25-2017, 06:25 AM
retire

Kinkotheclown
09-25-2017, 06:57 AM
Cavs have to be the favorite, I could see him landing w the heat or thunder as well, doubt he join's the spurs, jmo...I would like to see the Lakers make a push for him as a Lakers fan tho!

I think Cavs o OKC. He's still go a little juice left, especially if he's the 3rd or 4th option like he would be in OKC.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-25-2017, 07:38 AM
I hope he goes to Spurs or Thunder.

archdevil84
09-25-2017, 07:41 AM
good to see wade finally getting out of that ****** franchise which is the bulls. hopefully he'll return to miami but if its gonna be cleveland im okay with it aswell

Vinylman
09-25-2017, 07:42 AM
probably one last run with LBJ...

will give the cavs options to unload other guys and get better pieces.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-25-2017, 07:51 AM
Shocked Heat is in the running for Wade.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-25-2017, 07:56 AM
probably one last run with LBJ...

will give the cavs options to unload other guys and get better pieces.

Shumpert is on the trade block. Pelicans showed interest in Shumpert.

Vinylman
09-25-2017, 08:07 AM
Shumpert is on the trade block. Pelicans showed interest in Shumpert.

yeah... I think people counting out the cavs are a bit premature... they have a lot of flexibility if they can get wade

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-25-2017, 08:31 AM
Pelicans don't have much to equal Shumpert's salary other then Ajinca/Moore combo or Asik. Hill injured for the season.

Scoots
09-25-2017, 09:05 AM
Spurs most interesting destination followed by OKC, Cavs most likely.

THE MTL
09-25-2017, 10:57 AM
As cruel as the Heat move was in NOT resigning Wade. Riley foresaw this and the Bulls have just paid a player ~15 million dollars to NOT play for them.

Anyway, I hope he joins OKC. Westbrook-Wade-George-Melo would be exciting.

IndyRealist
09-25-2017, 11:32 AM
I hadn't realized how much Wade's 2pt FG% has dropped off in the last 3 years. He really needs to be somewhere he's not asked to score on iso. I'd say GSW or SAS.

C-Dub
09-25-2017, 11:47 AM
hes coming to milwaukee.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 11:58 AM
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PG is also his favorite player.

AllBall
09-25-2017, 12:52 PM
Come off the bench Wade, time for that Ginobli/Parker rest program.

FlashBolt
09-25-2017, 01:24 PM
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PG is also his favorite player.

Hehe, come here Wade! You can play bench for us, though.

AllBall
09-25-2017, 01:38 PM
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Well, here go. Pulling out the popcorn.

statquo
09-25-2017, 01:45 PM
He's going to the Warriors

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 02:07 PM
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WaDe03
09-25-2017, 02:21 PM
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WaDe03
09-25-2017, 02:27 PM
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Figured there would be a large market. You guys may hate on him but contenders know the importance of having a 3 time champion and all time great on their team. Wonder who all is going after him?

Vee-Rex
09-25-2017, 02:32 PM
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Figured there would be a large market. You guys may hate on him but contenders know the importance of having a 3 time champion and all time great on their team. Wonder who all is going after him?

Of course - teams would be idiots to not want him. He's still a helluva player even if he can't carry a team at this point in his career.

I'm ecstatic with the thought of him being in wine and gold.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 02:38 PM
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WaDe03
09-25-2017, 02:38 PM
Of course - teams would be idiots to not want him. He's still a helluva player even if he can't carry a team at this point in his career.

I'm ecstatic with the thought of him being in wine and gold.

I think the Cavs are for sure the front runners followed by the Thunder.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 02:46 PM
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Seems like the Thunder are making the strongest push for him.

FlashBolt
09-25-2017, 03:17 PM
I can't believe Wade still hasn't chosen Cavs, tbh. Always thought that was his place..

Bostonjorge
09-25-2017, 03:39 PM
In Cleveland Wade will get lost in the shuffle. Jr Smith and Rose will play the exact same role as Wade. Shooting takes front and center in deciding playing time for Cleveland, then everything else. Crowder will become James favorite teammate. Isiah will have Wades role in Miami. Wade donít look good in Clevelandís system they have in place.

In Okc Wade gets more playing time. Heís basically a super sub on that bench. Adams and Roberson will get the start but will get zero plays called for them. Put backs and open 3ís for Roberson is the offensive role them. Both will look for Wade to score for them. They complement Wades play making abilities perfect. Just makes to much sense for Wade.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 04:06 PM
I can't believe Wade still hasn't chosen Cavs, tbh. Always thought that was his place..

Same here, it seems like he will make a decision today though. He said he'll take last night and part of today to listen to teams and players pitch.

AllBall
09-25-2017, 04:21 PM
Of course - teams would be idiots to not want him. He's still a helluva player even if he can't carry a team at this point in his career.

I'm ecstatic with the thought of him being in wine and gold.

Wade is great for the playoffs, you just have to use Pop's system during the regular season to keep him fresh. No need for him to start, come off the bench, rest during regular season. Players need to be smart if they want to extend their careers.

FlashBolt
09-25-2017, 04:24 PM
I'm willing to bet anything Wade doesn't go back to Miami... makes zero sense for him at this point of his career. Miami has moved on from him and played well without him. Time for both sides to move on.

SteBO
09-25-2017, 05:00 PM
I'm willing to bet anything Wade doesn't go back to Miami... makes zero sense for him at this point of his career. Miami has moved on from him and played well without him. Time for both sides to move on.
I've wavered on this, but in the end I came to the same conclusion you posted here. Might as well contribute to a present title-contender and chase rings. Unlike a lot of peeps down here, I'd support him in CLE or OKC. I think OKC is better for him as a 6th man.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 05:00 PM
Yea I highly doubt he goes to Miami, he wants to play for a contender and now instead of being a FA and having to sign for the minimum to a contender he'll now get paid about 18.3M to play for one. Smart move there.

I'm slowly starting to lean towards OKC being the favorite. He's liking tweets saying he may go to OKC, pictures ESPN posted of PG saying he just wants to win championships, and Presti has just got **** done this summer.

KnickNyKnick
09-25-2017, 05:01 PM
Wade should contact Boston and make the east more interesting.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 05:11 PM
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So he can commit to a team but not sign until Wednesday? Can't someone just throw their bid in for him and get him?

Big Zo
09-25-2017, 05:37 PM
I'm willing to bet anything Wade doesn't go back to Miami... makes zero sense for him at this point of his career. Miami has moved on from him and played well without him. Time for both sides to move on.
Hereís why it does make sense: Barring some unforseen tragedy, the Warriors are basicially the only team he can sign with to get a ring. Also, of the teams that were mentioned as possible destinations, Miami has the most money to sign him.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 06:05 PM
Hereís why it does make sense: Barring some unforseen tragedy, the Warriors are basicially the only team he can sign with to get a ring. Also, of the teams that were mentioned as possible destinations, Miami has the most money to sign him.

OKC would be very insteresting, LeBrons team always has a chance and they have the BKN pick they can trade for another all star.

IndyRealist
09-25-2017, 06:45 PM
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So he can commit to a team but not sign until Wednesday? Can't someone just throw their bid in for him and get him?

Teams with cap space can bid for him, but as Chauncey Billups showed the waiver system is broken. He can just say, "if anyone picks me up off waivers, I'm retiring."

Dade County
09-25-2017, 06:46 PM
I'm willing to bet anything Wade doesn't go back to Miami... makes zero sense for him at this point of his career. Miami has moved on from him and played well without him. Time for both sides to move on.

Not a betting man...

But I don't see Wade going to any other team but Miami. He's not a Cleveland/OKC kind of dude, he stated himself that he followed each and everyone of the Miami HEAT games last season.

He's coming home.

Big Zo
09-25-2017, 06:49 PM
OKC would be very insteresting, LeBrons team always has a chance and they have the BKN pick they can trade for another all star.

Interesting, but not enough. And remember, itís a new team thatís gonna need time to gel together.

FlashBolt
09-25-2017, 06:53 PM
Not a betting man...

But I don't see Wade going to any other team but Miami. He's not a Cleveland/OKC kind of dude, he stated himself that he followed each and everyone of the Miami HEAT games last season.

He's coming home.

This makes no sense.

Bostonjorge
09-25-2017, 06:58 PM
Not a betting man...

But I don't see Wade going to any other team but Miami. He's not a Cleveland/OKC kind of dude, he stated himself that he followed each and everyone of the Miami HEAT games last season.

He's coming home.

Wade can go home during his farewell season. He will always be a HEAT.

He should just be a Thunder this year.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 07:05 PM
Wade can go home during his farewell season. He will always be a HEAT.

He should just be a Thunder this year.

I think this is what happens, he'll go to Miami before he retires whether it's for 1 full season or a 1 day deal like Pierce and the Celtics.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 07:05 PM
Interesting, but not enough. And remember, itís a new team thatís gonna need time to gel together.

That's true, definitely not a team I would want to play if I were in the playoffs. Even if I am the Warriors.

Heediot
09-25-2017, 07:21 PM
I'll leave the board if Wade goes to the Heat.

It's most likely Cleveland.

Hopefully OKC with 2nd best odds.

SportsFanatic10
09-25-2017, 08:10 PM
Same here, it seems like he will make a decision today though. He said he'll take last night and part of today to listen to teams and players pitch.

I doubt a decision will be made public until he clears waivers on Wednesday.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 08:42 PM
I doubt a decision will be made public until he clears waivers on Wednesday.

You're probably right from the looks of it now. Can always commit before he clears waivers though.

FlashBolt
09-25-2017, 08:46 PM
Wade should go to the Warriors and tell CP3/Melo/Bron the Warriors plans.. lol

AllBall
09-25-2017, 08:53 PM
I'll leave the board if Wade goes to the Heat.

It's most likely Cleveland.

Hopefully OKC with 2nd best odds.

Damn, suicide watch for Heediot. lol

SportsFanatic10
09-25-2017, 09:17 PM
Im hoping to see him choose OKC. As bad as I want him back on the Heat, that is the best spot for him I feel right now.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 09:43 PM
Wade should go to the Warriors and tell CP3/Melo/Bron the Warriors plans.. lol

Have him throw the Finals lol.

mrblisterdundee
09-25-2017, 11:03 PM
Maybe Wade as a deep-seated desire to play for the Spurs.

IKnowHoops
09-25-2017, 11:07 PM
In Cleveland Wade will get lost in the shuffle. Jr Smith and Rose will play the exact same role as Wade. Shooting takes front and center in deciding playing time for Cleveland, then everything else. Crowder will become James favorite teammate. Isiah will have Wades role in Miami. Wade donít look good in Clevelandís system they have in place.

In Okc Wade gets more playing time. Heís basically a super sub on that bench. Adams and Roberson will get the start but will get zero plays called for them. Put backs and open 3ís for Roberson is the offensive role them. Both will look for Wade to score for them. They complement Wades play making abilities perfect. Just makes to much sense for Wade.

I think more important than any of that, is fielding a team that can do work with Bron resting on the bench. If they can do that with Wade's help, then he's a great add.

Scoots
09-25-2017, 11:32 PM
Wade is past his prime. He can play and he's smart ... but he's got to keep his minutes under 20 per game.

WaDe03
09-25-2017, 11:42 PM
Wade is past his prime. He can play and he's smart ... but he's got to keep his minutes under 20 per game.

I would say 25-28 a game. I mean he almost carried the Heat to the ECF a little over a year ago and the decline from then has been very little.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 01:57 AM
That's true, definitely not a team I would want to play if I were in the playoffs. Even if I am the Warriors.


Disagree because OKC has very little depth. If Adams gets into any foul trouble teams are going to live in the paint.

AllBall
09-26-2017, 08:52 AM
I would say 25-28 a game. I mean he almost carried the Heat to the ECF a little over a year ago and the decline from then has been very little.

You don't need to wear him down in the regular season. Break glass for playoffs.

TylerSL
09-26-2017, 08:58 AM
Dwyane Wade can help most teams in the NBA so it's no surprise that many teams have contacted him. Wade may be the difference between finishing #9 in the conference or actually making the playoffs. He could be a locker room leader for younger players. He could provide scoring for any title contender. Wade can help most teams in different ways.

Last year was Wade's worst statistical season since his rookie year, and he still averaged 22/5/5 per 36. He's clearly past his prime but he can still play at a high level in the league. Even with most teams calling him, it's certainly only coming down to the four or five teams mentioned as landing spots. Obviously, I want him back in Miami, but after all the craziness of the NBA off-season I'm not as sure that it is going to happen this season. With all these massive stars moving to different teams and now Wade has the opportunity to potentially join up with some of them. That possibility may be too alluring for him to pass on. Here are my list of five teams he may consider.

5. Houston Rockets-The Rockets would pair Wade with Chris Paul and James Harden. While Wade isn't an outside shooter and Houston just lets it fly, Wade can be used to get other guys open. With the floor spread out that could open up things for Wade in the post. I see potential for high scoring here but I don't actually expect this to happen. Wade probably wouldn't be able to help them advance and there will be other enticing offers. Still, if Houston comes calling, I would bet he would listen.

4. San Antonio Spurs-I believe San Antonio has a punchers chance of landing Wade. Greg Popovich is probably the most revered coach of all time. Playing for him is something NBA players who like winning want to do. The also have Kawhi Leonard, who I consider to be the 2nd best player in the league behind Lebron, who is still 26 years old. The signing of Rudy Gay is more important than people probably realize, it was one of the best signings of the entire off-season. The combination of Wade and Gay can tremendously help both Parker and Kawhi as they can both score and handle the basketball. The Spurs could go small with Parker/Wade/Gay/Kawhi/Aldrige with a deep bench. Would probably win 60 games easily.

3. Miami Heat-Miami would be a good destination for Wade, and not just because it would be a homecoming. Wade could really help our team next season. Obviously we wouldn't win the NBA championship, unless the injury epidemic really kills teams this season, but we would become one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference. With Wade back, we could run a starting lineup of Dragic/Wade/Waiters/Johnson/Whiteside that with an extremely deep bench of T. Johnson, Richardson, Olynyk, Winslow, McGruder, Ellington, and the rookie Adebayo. Wade would come right in and would thrive being back home on a good team, but the chance to really compete for ring #4 is the only thing standing in this scenario's way.

2. Oklahoma City Thunder-OKC looks really, really, really enticing getting Melo for 30 cents on the dollar. With Wade in OKC, a starting lineup of Westbrook/Wade/PG13/Melo/Adams would be insane. Wade and Melo, both top 40 players of all time, would be the 3rd and 4th best players on the team. Both are past their prime but can provide solid scoring and experience. Not being the best player can alleviate pressure on their older bodies as Westbrook and Paul George would be carrying the most. Melo and Wade could sit back and methodically pick their spots, and have efficient seasons for it. If Wade doesn't come back to the Heat I definitely want him to go to Thunder.

#1-Cleveland Cavaliers-The Lebron James factor is what makes them the favorites. Also having a guarantee to go back to the NBA Finals helps. Adding Wade would add another piece to a team trying to catch the Warriors. By the time the playoffs begin, the Cavs would be running with a starting lineup of Thomas/Wade/Lebron/Love/Thompson with Crowder, Rose, Smith, Korver, Shumpert, and Fyre coming off the bench. If Wade joins Cleveland the Cavs should definitely trade Shumpert and try to get another big. Would that be enough to beat Golden State? Doubtful, unless Steph or KD go down with an injury, but the prospect of re-uniting with Lebron James and playing in a 6th NBA Finals is what makes the Cavaliers the favorites.

eDush
09-26-2017, 09:22 AM
That's true, definitely not a team I would want to play if I were in the playoffs. Even if I am the Warriors.


Disagree because OKC has very little depth. If Adams gets into any foul trouble teams are going to live in the paint.Melo at the 4 would help Adams tremendously in the paint and I don't think he's not prone to foul troubles from the games I seen.
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WaDe03
09-26-2017, 11:06 AM
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krazylegz
09-26-2017, 12:04 PM
hearing that hes already in cleveland this morning...more than likely for the physical

kdspurman
09-26-2017, 12:12 PM
He's going to Cleveland??? I am shocked.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 12:14 PM
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He's going to Cleveland!

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 12:15 PM
hearing that hes already in cleveland this morning...more than likely for the physical

Can't do the physical yet, I believe that would be tampering since he hasn't cleared waivers. Players can have contact with him, organizations can't.

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 12:23 PM
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He's going to Cleveland!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade!

Welcome to The Land!

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 12:27 PM
I never had high hopes of him going to OKC, anyways. I'm pretty sure Wade was truly only debating OKC or CLE and quite frankly, CLE is just the better place for a player of his age and stature at this point. OKC, he'll be having to go through grueling guard play game after game. Stay in the East, hang with LeBron, go to the Finals, show up, win a ring. That should be Wade's plan. Miami was just a distraction. That was never going to be an option for him..

Wade n Fade
09-26-2017, 12:29 PM
It's disgraceful that Wade is going to Cleveland.

Leftcoast_yg
09-26-2017, 12:30 PM
"If Jesus payin' Lebron, I'm paying Dwayne Wade." -Jay Z

Come to Brooklyn! Carry us to the Playoffs.

Jay Z also has some DSL's which could be a factor that might help lure wade.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 12:30 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade!

Welcome to The Land!

This is a very underrated move. No one is paying attention to the fact that Wade+LeBron have insane chemistry both on/off. What I saw lacking in Cleveland was the lack of cuts to the basket. LeBron loves making those passes at the FT line but because Cleveland didn't have that personnel, he was never able to get easy points off that. Also, Wade struggled once he left Miami and was focused as a #2nd option because let's be honest, he needs easy baskets. He's no longer a viable player to give the ball to and expect instant results. Another thing is, get ready for some amazing lobs again.. Love+Wade with those football/lobs to LeBron will be F-U-N.

Cleveland is stacked.. No excuse this season to not make it competitive.

IT
Wade
Lebron
Love
Rose
J.R.
Crowder
T.T.
Korver

Holy hell. This is easily the best roster LeBron has been on.

krazylegz
09-26-2017, 12:33 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-dwyane-wade-reunite-lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-162347901.html

only thing left is the cross of the Ts and dots of the Is

krazylegz
09-26-2017, 12:33 PM
oops dwyane not dwayne:):)

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 12:37 PM
Premature. I know you CLE fans are happy but there's still a .001% chance he comes to OKC.. let's wait for a decision.

Scoots
09-26-2017, 12:37 PM
Can't do the physical yet, I believe that would be tampering since he hasn't cleared waivers. Players can have contact with him, organizations can't.

I think they can do a physical on a player on waivers and they can talk to them ... it's not tampering, he's not on a team, and nobody would claim him without asking him if he wants to play for them and getting an idea about his health.

It would be hilarious if a bad team with lots of cap space claimed him at the last minute.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 12:38 PM
Melo at the 4 would help Adams tremendously in the paint and I don't think he's not prone to foul troubles from the games I seen.
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Melo can't defend a chair.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 12:39 PM
Melo can't defend a chair.

eDush doesn't know what he's talking about.. ignore him.

Scoots
09-26-2017, 12:40 PM
This is a very underrated move. No one is paying attention to the fact that Wade+LeBron have insane chemistry both on/off. What I saw lacking in Cleveland was the lack of cuts to the basket. LeBron loves making those passes at the FT line but because Cleveland didn't have that personnel, he was never able to get easy points off that. Also, Wade struggled once he left Miami and was focused as a #2nd option because let's be honest, he needs easy baskets. He's no longer a viable player to give the ball to and expect instant results. Another thing is, get ready for some amazing lobs again.. Love+Wade with those football/lobs to LeBron will be F-U-N.

Cleveland is stacked.. No excuse this season to not make it competitive.

IT
Wade
Lebron
Love
Rose
J.R.
Crowder
T.T.
Korver

Holy hell. This is easily the best roster LeBron has been on.

The biggest issue is how healthy they will be come round 1 of the playoffs, because there are several older guys with spotty recent injury history. Hopefully they are all 100%.

mightybosstone
09-26-2017, 12:47 PM
I really hope this is true. The West is stacked enough. Wade is hardly a star player anymore, but he's a substantial enough piece to make a major difference for a contending team. And Cleveland needs more ammunition if they want to have any shot at taking down the Warriors.

prodigy
09-26-2017, 12:54 PM
woot woot! great signing. much needed Depth.

AntiG
09-26-2017, 12:54 PM
Bosh next?

NYKnickFanatic
09-26-2017, 01:01 PM
Bosh next?

👀

Heediot
09-26-2017, 01:04 PM
Prime Bosh would be perfect. Too bad he'd be worse then Larry Sanders at this point.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:05 PM
I never had high hopes of him going to OKC, anyways. I'm pretty sure Wade was truly only debating OKC or CLE and quite frankly, CLE is just the better place for a player of his age and stature at this point. OKC, he'll be having to go through grueling guard play game after game. Stay in the East, hang with LeBron, go to the Finals, show up, win a ring. That should be Wade's plan. Miami was just a distraction. That was never going to be an option for him..


Yea it was always either the Cavs or Thunder imo since he was bought out. I would have been happy with either, in Cleveland he's going to the Finals with a chance for #4, in OKC it would've just been something so different in terms of the roster from last year and they would have a legit chance for a ring and you all have those sick statement jerseys lol.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:05 PM
I think they can do a physical on a player on waivers and they can talk to them ... it's not tampering, he's not on a team, and nobody would claim him without asking him if he wants to play for them and getting an idea about his health.

It would be hilarious if a bad team with lots of cap space claimed him at the last minute.

I'd be so pissed if that happened lol!

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:06 PM
eDush doesn't know what he's talking about.. ignore him.

This but I do think he will be better at guarding opposing 4s.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:08 PM
This is a very underrated move. No one is paying attention to the fact that Wade+LeBron have insane chemistry both on/off. What I saw lacking in Cleveland was the lack of cuts to the basket. LeBron loves making those passes at the FT line but because Cleveland didn't have that personnel, he was never able to get easy points off that. Also, Wade struggled once he left Miami and was focused as a #2nd option because let's be honest, he needs easy baskets. He's no longer a viable player to give the ball to and expect instant results. Another thing is, get ready for some amazing lobs again.. Love+Wade with those football/lobs to LeBron will be F-U-N.

Cleveland is stacked.. No excuse this season to not make it competitive.

IT
Wade
Lebron
Love
Rose
J.R.
Crowder
T.T.
Korver

Holy hell. This is easily the best roster LeBron has been on.

Man those outlet passes and lobs are going to be crazy, I can't wait! And you're right about the slashing, Wade and LeBron will definitely connect a lot there.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:09 PM
It's disgraceful that Wade is going to Cleveland.

How? It's not at all unless you're a Miami fan that is still bitter about both leaving. How can you be mad at someone for wanting to contend at the end of his career? Miami isn't contending. He'll be back, just not now. He will still have his jersey retired and a statue.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:10 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade!

Welcome to The Land!

:win:

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:13 PM
Alright here's my goal for Wade this season:

15-4-4-1-1-50%-35%-80% in 25-28 MPG

I assume LeBron IT will average 25+ and Love will come close to 20 so I think 15 is reasonable and I see his percentage shooting back up now that he's back with LeBron. Could possibly score more due to IT being out until Christmas/early January.

RowBTrice
09-26-2017, 01:19 PM
Good job Cleveland.....keep getting older, less athletic, and injury-prone players to take down Golden State.....

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:20 PM
912665013252476929

Please get this done!

Heediot
09-26-2017, 01:27 PM
Alright here's my goal for Wade this season:

15-4-4-1-1-50%-35%-80% in 25-28 MPG

I assume LeBron IT will average 25+ and Love will come close to 20 so I think 15 is reasonable and I see his percentage shooting back up now that he's back with LeBron. Could possibly score more due to IT being out until Christmas/early January.

IT not going to get 25. Prime Wade couldn't get 25 with Bron. Kyrie barely mustered it last year.

RateSports
09-26-2017, 01:37 PM
So this:

Isaiah Thomas / Derrick Rose / Jose Calderon
Dwyane Wade / JR Smith / Kyle Korver / Shumpert
LeBron James / Jeff Green / Cedi Osman
Kevin Love / Jae Crowder
Tristan Thompson / Edy Tavares

is somehow less athletic then

Kyrie Irving / Deron Williams
JR Smith / Iman Shumpert
LeBron James / Richard Jefferson
Kevin Love / Channing Frye
Tristan Thompson


Hahahahahahahaha. Please son. Please.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:38 PM
IT not going to get 25. Prime Wade couldn't get 25 with Bron. Kyrie barely mustered it last year.

You're probably right, plus he'll have to work off the rust. I'm going to say 25 for LeBron and 20-23 for Love and IT.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 01:44 PM
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bleedprple&gold
09-26-2017, 01:49 PM
Premature. I know you CLE fans are happy but there's still a .001% chance he comes to OKC.. let's wait for a decision.

He was always going to Cleveland. He gave back $8M just so he could reunite with Bron.

smith&wesson
09-26-2017, 01:50 PM
Thomas, Love, Wade, Rose As the supporting cast along with Crowder, Thompson, Korver, Smith, as good depth pieces should be enough for Lebron to contend with the Warriors imo.

Wade n Fade
09-26-2017, 01:53 PM
How? It's not at all unless you're a Miami fan that is still bitter about both leaving. How can you be mad at someone for wanting to contend at the end of his career? Miami isn't contending. He'll be back, just not now. He will still have his jersey retired and a statue.

Because that's going to sleep with the enemy. LeBron left him and Wade hung out to dry with that Soho Beach House meeting down in Miami Beach. He flew into a meeting with Riley with a letter being crafted through SI. Dan Gilbert is not a pleasant person and has an unstable organization. LeBron is bolting for LA in a year. He can go contend with Melo in OKC or CP3 in Houston.

I am also mad at that Heat for not at least promising Wade a starting role and to give Dion more minutes off the bench. The Cavs are too unstable and their fans will be all over LeBron for bolting next season. LeBron's player/coach/GM bs is not worth it at this time because his best teammate days are over from the Heat Big 3 era.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 01:54 PM
Alright here's my goal for Wade this season:

15-4-4-1-1-50%-35%-80% in 25-28 MPG

I assume LeBron IT will average 25+ and Love will come close to 20 so I think 15 is reasonable and I see his percentage shooting back up now that he's back with LeBron. Could possibly score more due to IT being out until Christmas/early January.

Those are all reasonable predictions but I don't think it'll actually happen. Cavs have too much talent. What's J.R./Korver/Crowder/Rose going to do.
If LeBron+IT gets 50 together, Love gets 20, Wade gets 15, that's 85 points. Korver+J.R.+Crowder+Rose can each get you 10 points and Shump+Frye can probably, too. I think IT will be a 20 point scorer, Love will be a 17 point scorer, Wade probably at 14.. Everyone's going to have to realize, if you want to win, give LeBron the ball and let the magic happen. No one on the Cavs should be complaining about not getting the ball. They know what they signed up for..


912665013252476929

Please get this done!

Another reason why the Cavs Kyrie trade did wonders. Just look at the lack of options Cavs had before the Kyrie trade.. No one wanted Love at all. Now, Cavs have the 1st round pick and can make numerous amusing trades. I mean, they can potentiall flip Kyrie+Shump+Frye for IT+Crowder+Cousins.. I don't think they need Cousins because I think he's too big of a crybaby to insert midseason but he's definitely going to pummel the Warriors on the inside..

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 01:58 PM
Good job Cleveland.....keep getting older, less athletic, and injury-prone players to take down Golden State.....

Such a jealous hater.. have fun with Zach Lavine, though.. LOL.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 02:01 PM
Those are all reasonable predictions but I don't think it'll actually happen. Cavs have too much talent. What's J.R./Korver/Crowder/Rose going to do.
If LeBron+IT gets 50 together, Love gets 20, Wade gets 15, that's 85 points. Korver+J.R.+Crowder+Rose can each get you 10 points and Shump+Frye can probably, too. I think IT will be a 20 point scorer, Love will be a 17 point scorer, Wade probably at 14.. Everyone's going to have to realize, if you want to win, give LeBron the ball and let the magic happen. No one on the Cavs should be complaining about not getting the ball. They know what they signed up for..



Another reason why the Cavs Kyrie trade did wonders. Just look at the lack of options Cavs had before the Kyrie trade.. No one wanted Love at all. Now, Cavs have the 1st round pick and can make numerous amusing trades. I mean, they can potentiall flip Kyrie+Shump+Frye for IT+Crowder+Cousins.. I don't think they need Cousins because I think he's too big of a crybaby to insert midseason but he's definitely going to pummel the Warriors on the inside..

Yea I'm sure all those prediction won't happen and I'm probabaly a little too high on the scoring predictions because I'll be surprised if Jae/Rose/Korver flirt with 10 a night, plus there's TT.

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 02:02 PM
Because that's going to sleep with the enemy. LeBron left him and Wade hung out to dry with that Soho Beach House meeting down in Miami Beach. He flew into a meeting with Riley with a letter being crafted through SI. Dan Gilbert is not a pleasant person and has an unstable organization. LeBron is bolting for LA in a year. He can go contend with Melo in OKC or CP3 in Houston.

I am also mad at that Heat for not at least promising Wade a starting role and to give Dion more minutes off the bench. The Cavs are too unstable and their fans will be all over LeBron for bolting next season. LeBron's player/coach/GM bs is not worth it at this time because his best teammate days are over from the Heat Big 3 era.

I've always felt Wade would look better in Cavs jersey than a Heat jersey. He's where he belongs.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 02:05 PM
Because that's going to sleep with the enemy. LeBron left him and Wade hung out to dry with that Soho Beach House meeting down in Miami Beach. He flew into a meeting with Riley with a letter being crafted through SI. Dan Gilbert is not a pleasant person and has an unstable organization. LeBron is bolting for LA in a year. He can go contend with Melo in OKC or CP3 in Houston.

I am also mad at that Heat for not at least promising Wade a starting role and to give Dion more minutes off the bench. The Cavs are too unstable and their fans will be all over LeBron for bolting next season. LeBron's player/coach/GM bs is not worth it at this time because his best teammate days are over from the Heat Big 3 era.

Wade and LeBron never had hard feeling over any of that and Wade himself left Miami. Wade wants to win now, at the end of his career and they can't do that in Miami in the next few years.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 02:06 PM
I've always felt Wade would look better in Cavs jersey than a Heat jersey. He's where he belongs.

He's home now lol.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 02:06 PM
Because that's going to sleep with the enemy. LeBron left him and Wade hung out to dry with that Soho Beach House meeting down in Miami Beach. He flew into a meeting with Riley with a letter being crafted through SI. Dan Gilbert is not a pleasant person and has an unstable organization. LeBron is bolting for LA in a year. He can go contend with Melo in OKC or CP3 in Houston.

I am also mad at that Heat for not at least promising Wade a starting role and to give Dion more minutes off the bench. The Cavs are too unstable and their fans will be all over LeBron for bolting next season. LeBron's player/coach/GM bs is not worth it at this time because his best teammate days are over from the Heat Big 3 era.

You couldn't be any more wrong.

1) LeBron isn't leaving Cleveland if they win. Why go to the Lakers when Cleveland has so many options if they win?

2) Heat didn't give Wade a starting role.. meaning, they don't believe Wade is capable of playing a starting role anymore and would have put Dion Waiters ahead of him.. This is Pat Riley being a complete child.

3) You don't know what LeBron did or didn't do. For all we know, Wade knew the entire time.

4) Wtf are you talking about in regards to being the best teammate? LeBron was just voted the player most players want to play with.. and you are delusional if you think Wade and LeBron put basketball over friendship at this point. Wade is going to Cleveland because they can win a championship and because him and LeBron are close friends. They know how to win together.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 02:11 PM
IT better change that number real quick though....

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 02:13 PM
Good job Cleveland.....keep getting older, less athletic, and injury-prone players to take down Golden State.....

Wade wanted me to tell y'all thanks for the 39M for 1 season. Have fun not contending as usual.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-26-2017, 02:14 PM
My guess Shumpert is dealt before season starts.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 02:15 PM
Prime Bosh would be perfect. Too bad he'd be worse then Larry Sanders at this point.

Stop lol, he's probably still much better. It would actually be awesome if he joined them but idk if he wants to or will be cleared to. He would be a very nice piece of the bench backing up TT imo and if he gets back to his ways somewhat he may be able to take TTs spot and be the stretch 5. I doubt he returns though.

ewing
09-26-2017, 02:22 PM
I will be rooting for them to fail


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tredigs
09-26-2017, 02:34 PM
PG: Thomas (if/when he comes back next year) / D Rose / Calderon
PG: D Wade / JR / Korver / Shump
SF: Lebron / Crowder
PF: K Love / Frye
C: Thomspon / Zizic

Potentially really imposing team if they somehow get/stay healthy, but that is a LOT of mouths to feed and very little time to find a pecking order + synergy (especially considering Wade missed the summer with them and IT not only missed the summer but will be out for months longer). Zizic is a fun wild-card for them.

Strange team. I'll be watching.

L8kers4life
09-26-2017, 02:36 PM
Premature. I know you CLE fans are happy but there's still a .001% chance he comes to OKC.. let's wait for a decision.


Your right there is a chance, but I think Wade is going to pay LeBron back for going to Miami, Wade signs with Cleveland 💯

ManRam
09-26-2017, 02:36 PM
Good job Cleveland.....keep getting older, less athletic, and injury-prone players to take down Golden State.....

I don't think you can really paint this in a negative light. The Cavs are completely capped out. There aren't "younger, more athletic, less injury-prone" players out there right now that are going to help them out as much as Wade. This is a win-now move that doesn't at all set them back long term. And win-now is what they need to do with LeBron's situation.

Wade was good last year. He's a significant upgrade at the position. This is a great move, no way around it. Maybe it doesn't make them better than the Warriors, but it makes them better...and again, being capped out makes things real tough. They're lucky the Bulls are rebuilding and bought him out.

Iman Shumpert hopefully never will have to step on the court in the playoffs and that alone is a huge upgrade. Back court defense might be an issue, but that was the case before this signing.


Assuming this happens. It isn't finalized yet. Misleading title.

Heediot
09-26-2017, 02:37 PM
As long as someone has the ammo to knock off the Whore-riors I'm cool.

Just need to find some more defenders to balance out all that offense.

Hopper15
09-26-2017, 02:37 PM
A Rose/Wade backcourt is going to be comical defensively. Neither space the floor for Lebron either.

archdevil84
09-26-2017, 02:38 PM
man, cant believe we actually might get to see the old miami times again (altho in a different environment this time around). im rooting for CB to join them aswell

Heediot
09-26-2017, 02:51 PM
A Rose/Wade backcourt is going to be comical defensively. Neither space the floor for Lebron either.

congrats on the 1k

MygirlhatesCod
09-26-2017, 02:53 PM
I do like the fit but it would be way more interesting to see him in OKC. he already knows playing with LBJ so I doubt the chemistry will be an issue.

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 03:04 PM
A Rose/Wade backcourt is going to be comical defensively. Neither space the floor for Lebron either.

I'm not sure the Kyrie Irving/Kyle Korver/Deron Williams backcourts were incredible defensively.

What people aren't grasping is that the additions this year are upgrades over the trash bench we had last year. Yes, Wade, Crowder, and Rose aren't superstars but they're certainly better than giving heavy minutes to Deron Williams, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson, Channing Frye, etc...

If IT comes back healthy as anticipated, he can fill in for Kyrie without much drop-off at all.

Not to mention the wildcard that is the Brooklyn pick... the potential here is very high.

The only true concern is health. But if we can maintain depth, then we should be fine if a guy or two is missing from time to time. We'll see how it goes.

bucketss
09-26-2017, 03:07 PM
honestly crazy how lebron and wade are both on cleveland now lmao whats going on.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 03:14 PM
I will be rooting for them to fail


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I'm sorry for whatever the 03 draft class did to you.

IndyRealist
09-26-2017, 03:26 PM
Your right there is a chance, but I think Wade is going to pay LeBron back for going to Miami, Wade signs with Cleveland 💯

If anything Lebron should be paying Wade back. Wade took bigger paycuts than everybody else to mke it work.

ewing
09-26-2017, 03:27 PM
I'm sorry for whatever the 03 draft class did to you.

Honestly was never a fan of either player. I didn't like Wade's game in his prime (he was great just didn't like watching him) and Bron is a douche


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Hopper15
09-26-2017, 03:36 PM
I'm not sure the Kyrie Irving/Kyle Korver/Deron Williams backcourts were incredible defensively.

What people aren't grasping is that the additions this year are upgrades over the trash bench we had last year. Yes, Wade, Crowder, and Rose aren't superstars but they're certainly better than giving heavy minutes to Deron Williams, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson, Channing Frye, etc...

If IT comes back healthy as anticipated, he can fill in for Kyrie without much drop-off at all.

Not to mention the wildcard that is the Brooklyn pick... the potential here is very high.

The only true concern is health. But if we can maintain depth, then we should be fine if a guy or two is missing from time to time. We'll see how it goes.

is that supposed to justify bringing in lousy defensive replacements that doesn't fix the problem?

tredigs
09-26-2017, 03:44 PM
is that supposed to justify bringing in lousy defensive replacements that doesn't fix the problem?

You're just saying words, and not thinking any of it through. They got a haul for Irving (who demanded a trade), in both replacing the position + improving at backup SF and C AND got a great pick. The plucked D Rose for nothing, and are about to do the same for D Wade. You have to understand that this was a team with 0 cap space.

What exactly do you propose they could have done better than they did (I'll answer for you - you have no viable response).

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 04:08 PM
They upgraded defensively regardless though. Crowder is a pretty good defender and will allow LeBron to ret a little more on that end and guard Green for half the game or so. Wade will lock up and make huge defensive plays in the clutch, I can post evidence of just this last season if needed.

As Tredigs said, a team with no cap space got quite a bit better this summer.

I like Wades finals matchup anyways which is really the only one that matters. Klay isn't going to kill the man with crazy speed and athleticism. Wade will be chasing Klay off screens but he's used to doing that and if he gets tired give Shumpert a few spot minutes here or there if JR and the other subs are already in.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 04:12 PM
You're just saying words, and not thinking any of it through. They got a haul for Irving (who demanded a trade), in both replacing the position + improving at backup SF and C AND got a great pick. The plucked D Rose for nothing, and are about to do the same for D Wade. You have to understand that this was a team with 0 cap space.

What exactly do you propose they could have done better than they did (I'll answer for you - you have no viable response).

You're doing the same thing. Pairing Rose and Wade(who don't complement each other at all offensively and defensively) together does not mean they didn't get enough in the Kyrie trade. Those are two completely separate things.

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 04:19 PM
You're doing the same thing. Pairing Rose and Wade(who don't complement each other at all offensively and defensively) together does not mean they didn't get enough in the Kyrie trade. Those are two completely separate things.

Well, you gotta let that play out. The Cavs have a full season to figure out their rotations. Maybe Wade becomes a better weapon off the bench and he and Rose don't play that much together. Maybe the Cavs mix and match lineups that limit their time together.

If IT comes back fully healthy, then that's less minutes to run Rose and Wade together. Maybe Rose + Smith and IT + Wade becomes a better combination. Remember, the Cavs simply want to be competitive and be at/near the top of the East to begin the season. They're not looking to go 73-9 or anything or be on the same tier as the Warriors - how could they if IT isn't fully healthy?

Let it play out. As hard as it is, put aside the standards set by the Warriors and examine the team for what it is and has become - better bench than last year. Skillset redundancy or not, the bench is better. But we'll have to find a way to get these guys to play well together.

Heediot
09-26-2017, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure the Kyrie Irving/Kyle Korver/Deron Williams backcourts were incredible defensively.

What people aren't grasping is that the additions this year are upgrades over the trash bench we had last year. Yes, Wade, Crowder, and Rose aren't superstars but they're certainly better than giving heavy minutes to Deron Williams, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson, Channing Frye, etc...

If IT comes back healthy as anticipated, he can fill in for Kyrie without much drop-off at all.

Not to mention the wildcard that is the Brooklyn pick... the potential here is very high.

The only true concern is health. But if we can maintain depth, then we should be fine if a guy or two is missing from time to time. We'll see how it goes.

The Bench had usable pieces that could exploit certain matchups as they did earlier in their playoff runs. The only problem is the bench didn't have the right pieces to counter the only team that mattered last year GS. I also believe if your too reliant on a system revolving around lebron, the other players may not look as good when things aren't in sync. Takes pops every bench player that plays with him look like solid contributors, but nearly all are exposed once they leave the Spurs.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 04:21 PM
You're doing the same thing. Pairing Rose and Wade(who don't complement each other at all offensively and defensively) together does not mean they didn't get enough in the Kyrie trade. Those are two completely separate things.

Wade and IT when he gets back compliment each other perfect offensively though.

valade16
09-26-2017, 04:21 PM
You're just saying words, and not thinking any of it through. They got a haul for Irving (who demanded a trade), in both replacing the position + improving at backup SF and C AND got a great pick. The plucked D Rose for nothing, and are about to do the same for D Wade. You have to understand that this was a team with 0 cap space.

What exactly do you propose they could have done better than they did (I'll answer for you - you have no viable response).

Agreed. For a team that had zero flexibility or ability to make any moves, they made quite a few of them. If the complaint is they didn't do enough to catch GS, well that wasn't going to happen short of their 2nd round draft pick becoming the next NBA superstar.

Realistically they did as much as they possibly could to improve their roster and create flexibility for the future.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 04:23 PM
They need to take the gamble and go all in by trading that Nets pick by the deadline for an all star. I hope they do it.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 04:26 PM
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Lmao!

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 04:27 PM
The Bench had usable pieces that could exploit certain matchups as they did earlier in their playoff runs. The only problem is the bench didn't have the right pieces to counter the only team that mattered last year GS. I also believe if your too reliant on a system revolving around lebron, the other players may not look as good when things aren't in sync. Takes pops every bench player that plays with him look like solid contributors, but nearly all are exposed once they leave the Spurs.

Yeah, I don't mean to completely trash guys like RJ and Frye (who in particular, was and continues to be a nightmare matchup for Toronto). They have contributed the past two years.

The simple fact of the matter is: there's just not much the Cavs, or any team for that matter, can do to level up with Golden State.

I mean... what do people expect? Wade and Rose aren't superstars or anything but do people think the Cavs could've gotten a Westbrook-type player? Yeah, they're laying around all over the place!

tredigs
09-26-2017, 04:31 PM
You're doing the same thing. Pairing Rose and Wade(who don't complement each other at all offensively and defensively) together does not mean they didn't get enough in the Kyrie trade. Those are two completely separate things.

No, I'm not. Do you propose that they should have not gone after Rose for the vet min after Kyrie made it clear he was leaving - ditto Wade? Again, they had ZERO cap flexibility. Who exactly should they have signed instead? I actually can not believe they got as much talent as they did this off-season, regardless if the fit is ideal or not. You can't have it all, specifically when no better options were on the table.

ManRam
09-26-2017, 04:33 PM
is that supposed to justify bringing in lousy defensive replacements that doesn't fix the problem?

This is not an argument to suggest it's a bad move though, which you're clearly trying to do. Of course it doesn't fix that one problem, but it fixes other ones. Moreover, him not helping them defensively doesn't mean he's hurting them there. This late into FA and especially considering their cap situation, this is as great of a signing as the Cavs could possible have imagined getting. It's a small miracle tbh. Lucky for them the Bulls blew it up and LeBron and Wade have the relationship they do. Otherwise, we might've seen Iman Shumpert getting playing time in the playoffs again!

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 04:36 PM
Wade and IT when he gets back compliment each other perfect offensively though.

While on the defensive end they will be exploited.

RowBTrice
09-26-2017, 04:38 PM
You're just saying words, and not thinking any of it through. They got a haul for Irving (who demanded a trade), in both replacing the position + improving at backup SF and C AND got a great pick. The plucked D Rose for nothing, and are about to do the same for D Wade. You have to understand that this was a team with 0 cap space.

What exactly do you propose they could have done better than they did (I'll answer for you - you have no viable response).

The biggest part of "the haul" may never be the same. That's yet to be seen. You can't call that a haul yet. High ceiling? Sure. But a definite "haul"? No, not even close to known yet.

And all of a sudden people like D-Rose now? ALl I've heard from nearly everyone the last 4 years or more is that he's trash, he's always injured, he'll never be the same, etc. etc. Now he's some bright spot on this team because why?

Ultimately it's going to be a wait and see for health for pretty much everyone except bron. I don't like their chances though.

Hawkeye15
09-26-2017, 04:40 PM
Agreed. For a team that had zero flexibility or ability to make any moves, they made quite a few of them. If the complaint is they didn't do enough to catch GS, well that wasn't going to happen short of their 2nd round draft pick becoming the next NBA superstar.

Realistically they did as much as they possibly could to improve their roster and create flexibility for the future.

absolutely. Cleveland should get an A+ for this summer, considering what they had to help the roster. That being said, I have to add my usual disclaimer- Irving is beyond overrated, so getting what they did was a great haul. Wade is washed up as ****, but if they can nurse him most the year, and he is healthy to play in the finals, damn right he can still help.

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 04:47 PM
And all of a sudden people like D-Rose now?



D-Rose had an underrated year. He wasn't horrible, just nowhere near the level he once played at. Not to mention he was meant to lead the PG position for the Knicks - whereas with the Cavs, his role is a backup.

It's probably tough for you, seeing Rose and Wade (former Bulls) being accepted and viewed as decent acquisitions. I can assure you that no one is loving Rose, but they're looking at Rose vs. Deron Williams and deciding Rose is the clear better player. They're looking at Wade vs. Shumpert and deciding that Wade is the clear better player.

THAT's why the responses are as they are. They're seeing the improvement, even if ultimately it makes no difference vs. Golden State.




I don't like their chances though.

But you liked them before? :confused:

tredigs
09-26-2017, 04:49 PM
The biggest part of "the haul" may never be the same. That's yet to be seen. You can't call that a haul yet. High ceiling? Sure. But a definite "haul"? No, not even close to known yet.

And all of a sudden people like D-Rose now? ALl I've heard from nearly everyone the last 4 years or more is that he's trash, he's always injured, he'll never be the same, etc. etc. Now he's some bright spot on this team because why?

Ultimately it's going to be a wait and see for health for pretty much everyone except bron. I don't like their chances though.
There are major question marks with the deal of course, but the Cavs were in a terrible position from a leverage standpoint. Given their circumstance, yes that was a haul for Kyrie. As for Rose, we hate him for 20 mil a year. Far different playing alongside multiple playmakers and better scorers for 2 million a year. I still would not want him, but that's obviously a player you gladly take in the Cavs situation. The Cavs were in a VERY bad place following the news that Kyrie had demanded a trade. What they made out of it since then was essentially a best case scenario for them. Again, a team with 0 cap space. Not even sure what the debate is here. They crushed it.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 04:51 PM
This new GM deserves a freaking medal. Sam Presti was the best GM of the year as he pulled off a heist getting rid of two terrible contracts for two stars but let's be honest here; the Cavs were never going to beat the Warriors with that same roster. They had zero options as most people were banking in on a PG for Love trade and then Melo/Wade bought out to join the Cavs. None of that happened (yet). Love's trade value was so bad that Pacers would rather get Oladipo. Cavs had ZERO options to boost their roster but they pulled off an amazing summer with players all having something to prove. The great thing about the Cavs roster is they have guys who can come off the bench and actually do something. Felder, Tavares, Jones, Liggins, McRae.. bunch of guys were just there just to watch and practice. I still think Lue screwed up not playing Derrick Williams as a last resort but regardless of that, Cavs had a lack of help to cover for the star power of the Warriors.

This was an A+++++ summer for the Cavs. They got a comparable scorer in IT, a defensive wing in Crowder, Wade can come off the bench and drop 14 for you in his sleep, Korver+J.R. are still amazing shooters, Kevin Love is on a favorable contract and has slimmed down, Derrick Rose will play valuable minutes.. you won't find many backup PG's better than Rose. They have a complete roster that shouldn't drop that much in performance when LeBron goes to the bench.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 04:57 PM
No, I'm not. Do you propose that they should have not gone after Rose for the vet min after Kyrie made it clear he was leaving - ditto Wade? Again, they had ZERO cap flexibility. Who exactly should they have signed instead? I actually can not believe they got as much talent as they did this off-season, regardless if the fit is ideal or not. You can't have it all, specifically when no better options were on the table.

They didn't need to sign Wade. Smith and Crowder could have covered those minutes at SG. They both space the floor and defend better than a 35 yr old Wade.

Rose I understood because Thomas is hurt. But my expectations aren't high for him as his best days are clearly behind him.

GodsSon
09-26-2017, 04:57 PM
Obvious move that's been obvious for awhile.

The needle keeps moving forward for the Cavs and they still have the BKN pick as an asset.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 04:58 PM
D-Rose had an underrated year. He wasn't horrible, just nowhere near the level he once played at. Not to mention he was meant to lead the PG position for the Knicks - whereas with the Cavs, his role is a backup.

It's probably tough for you, seeing Rose and Wade (former Bulls) being accepted and viewed as decent acquisitions. I can assure you that no one is loving Rose, but they're looking at Rose vs. Deron Williams and deciding Rose is the clear better player. They're looking at Wade vs. Shumpert and deciding that Wade is the clear better player.

THAT's why the responses are as they are. They're seeing the improvement, even if ultimately it makes no difference vs. Golden State.





But you liked them before? :confused:

It was underrated but also overrated, in a sense. The guy's defense and three point shooting is terrible. He put up stats in non-impactful moments of the game. Usually they were down by a huge lead and or the game is out of reach and Rose just drives right in. It basically had no impact on the end result. Still, that was a Rose who was often times looked at as the 2nd option (due to Melo+KP missing games). On the Cavs, he'll be like what? A 7th option? He certainly won't be getting more opportunities than:

Love
LeBron
IT
Wade

And then you add guys like Korver, Crowder, J.R..

I think that's why Rose chose the Cavs. He understands that the days of him getting max dollars is over but if Rose can have a good season and have an impact for the Cavs, his stock will rise and teams would consider him for a backup PG role. It's not out of reach for Rose to get a huge contract in the league if the Cavs win. Just look at Delly.

Plus, people are ignoring the aspect of Rose's game that is, attacking the basket. He was one of the best at it and what the Cavs want to do is use Rose as a passer for those shooters when LeBron is on the bench. I can see lineups and situations where Rose can be a huge impact for the Cavs.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 04:58 PM
They didn't need to sign Wade. Smith and Crowder could have covered those minutes at SG. They both space space the floor and defend better than a 35 old Wade.

Rose I understood because Thomas is hurt. But my expectations aren't high for him as his best days are clearly behind him.

Does it hurt to get Wade for basically free? Lmao, man, you aren't thinking correctly. That's like saying, "We have KD so we don't need LeBron James."

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 05:00 PM
Obvious move that's been obvious for awhile.

The needle keeps moving forward for the Cavs and they still have the BKN pick as an asset.

If Pelicans suck, trade Shump+Frye+1st round 2018 BKLYN for Cousins.

Cousins
LeBron
Love
IT
Wade
Crowder
J.R.
Korver
Rose
Tristan Thompson

That should win the championship.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 05:05 PM
Does it hurt to get Wade for basically free? Lmao, man, you aren't thinking correctly. That's like saying, "We have KD so we don't need LeBron James."

Yeah adding a 35 year old Wade is like adding an elite franchise player. Great comparison there

Did people even watch Wade last season? You would think he was still in his prime by reading some of these posts.

nastynice
09-26-2017, 05:14 PM
. That's like saying, "We have KD so we don't need LeBron James."

That's kinda true tho, lol

tredigs
09-26-2017, 05:15 PM
They didn't need to sign Wade. Smith and Crowder could have covered those minutes at SG. They both space the floor and defend better than a 35 yr old Wade.

Rose I understood because Thomas is hurt. But my expectations aren't high for him as his best days are clearly behind him.
So just say "no" to D Wade wanting to join the team? Lmfao - First of all I'm sure 'Bron would just LOVE that. Second of all, he is a player with known/proven synergy with Lebron who will undoubtedly fair better in that situation then he did in the complete dysfunction of Chicago (and with ample rest playoff Wade could still be a very potent contributor for stretches). Worst case scenario, you heavily reduce his minutes and/or talk about a bench role, etc. You don't just flat out deny taking a leader of his pedigree for the vet min, specifically when it would infuriate the cornerstone of your franchise. Another "wake up" moment here.

tredigs
09-26-2017, 05:21 PM
Still waiting on what players the Cavs should have traded for/signed instead...

GodsSon
09-26-2017, 05:22 PM
If Pelicans suck, trade Shump+Frye+1st round 2018 BKLYN for Cousins.

Cousins
LeBron
Love
IT
Wade
Crowder
J.R.
Korver
Rose
Tristan Thompson

That should win the championship.

The funny thing is that scenario is likely exactly how things will play out.

DeMarcus in Cleveland makes too much sense.

tredigs
09-26-2017, 05:22 PM
I'm sure Lebron will love even more exhausting himself on the defensive end covering up all defensive miscues by Wade and Rose. That backcourt will not work defensively.

As opposed to their backcourt that did not work defensively. Again - last time - what players should they have signed?

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 05:23 PM
So just say "no" to D Wade wanting to join the team? Lmfao - First of all I'm sure 'Bron would just LOVE that. Second of all, he is a player with known/proven synergy with Lebron who will undoubtedly fair better in that situation then he did in the complete dysfunction of Chicago (and with ample rest playoff Wade could still be a very potent contributor for stretches). Worst case scenario, you heavily reduce his minutes and/or talk about a bench role, etc. You don't just flat out deny taking a leader of his pedigree for the vet min, specifically when it would infuriate the cornerstone of your franchise. Another "wake up" moment here.

I'm sure Lebron will love even more exhausting himself on the defensive end covering up all defensive miscues by Wade and Rose. That backcourt will not work defensively.

GodsSon
09-26-2017, 05:24 PM
Yeah adding a 35 year old Wade is like adding an elite franchise player. Great comparison there

Did people even watch Wade last season? You would think he was still in his prime by reading some of these posts.

That's not the point though.

The Cavs are going to the finals again and it's entirely likely that for a 7 game stretch Wade gives Klay the business. That's all he's really needed for.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 05:24 PM
That's kinda true tho, lol

How is it true? I would love to hear it.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 05:25 PM
While on the defensive end they will be exploited.

They're defense from those positions weren't that good last year either and they upgraded in multiple areas.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 05:28 PM
Wades about to shut a lot of you clowns up this year, I can't wait.

Also in a finals series you want Wade over Crowder and JR, you can't teach greatness and the clutch gene.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 05:30 PM
That's not the point though.

The Cavs are going to the finals again and it's entirely likely that for a 7 game stretch Wade gives Klay the business. That's all he's really needed for.

This, and that's honestly the only match up that matters when it comes down to it. And people are forgetting Klay falls off a cliff offensively in the finals.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 05:31 PM
IT's confirmed.
Wade to CLE for $2.3 million!

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 05:31 PM
Links up later!

Hangin n Wangin
09-26-2017, 05:37 PM
This is so shocking.

Hangin n Wangin
09-26-2017, 05:37 PM
Shocking

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 05:37 PM
Wade getting 18.3M to play for a contender instead of just the minimum by opting in? Genius

Hopper15
09-26-2017, 05:38 PM
You're just saying words, and not thinking any of it through. They got a haul for Irving (who demanded a trade), in both replacing the position + improving at backup SF and C AND got a great pick. The plucked D Rose for nothing, and are about to do the same for D Wade. You have to understand that this was a team with 0 cap space.

What exactly do you propose they could have done better than they did (I'll answer for you - you have no viable response).

What a load of crap. Just because I don't like a fit between players doesn't mean I have to become some armchair General Manager for you and propose an alternative.

Maybe Rose and Wade was the best they could do. But that doesn't mean it's going to work.

cmellofan15
09-26-2017, 05:39 PM
will hold them back in the finals.

cmellofan15
09-26-2017, 05:42 PM
overpaid

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 05:43 PM
People are pointing to Rose/Wade like that's the lineup for the full season. It IT/Wade and the compliment each other much better and Wade will defend in the finals.

We want to talk about matchups let's talk about how Wade has showed he plays great next to bigs in the Love/Frye mold (Bosh) and TT mold (Whiteside) and we've already seen what him and LeBron can do on the court together.

krazylegz
09-26-2017, 05:45 PM
What a load of crap. Just because I don't like a fit between players doesn't mean I have to become some armchair General Manager for you and propose an alternative.

Maybe Rose and Wade was the best they could do. But that doesn't mean it's going to work.

doesnt mean it wont work either my dude........i know like you, like alot of yall ,are mad about lebron going to his 8th finals in a row come this season,but thats just the way the cookie crumbles

Dade County
09-26-2017, 05:48 PM
Bosh next?

I was thinking the same thing...

Later o in the season Bosh joins the team.

IT
Wade
Lbj
Love
Bosh

If Lbj extends with the Cav's, then maybe they can trade the Nets pick for another wing player or big man. Or maybe they could trade Love, the Nets pick & fillers for AD.

Vee-Rex
09-26-2017, 05:51 PM
I'm sure Lebron will love even more exhausting himself on the defensive end covering up all defensive miscues by Wade and Rose. That backcourt will not work defensively.

But the backcourt of Kyrie + Deron Williams was fantastic defensively?

:confused:

Pat Riley, is that you? Are you guys disgruntled Bulls fans or something? Eh, there's gotta be some kind of agenda behind this.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-26-2017, 05:54 PM
Any chance Cavs trade Shumpert for a big yet? Cavs seem a bit thin at center. They got Love at PF and Thompson at center and Frye off the bench. Yeah LeBron can play PF as well. If IT takes a long time to recover. Man Cavs PG depth is meh. Calderon should of been retire like 4 years ago. Rose can score but mainly short jumpers in the paint. Deron been on the decline since he begged to be traded from Jazz. Log jam at the wings. Asik and Shumpert are horrible. Junk for junk trade. But fit position of need. Heck i'd even consider Shumpert for Henson.

Green_Monster
09-26-2017, 06:01 PM
So much talent, but it seems like itís all just thrown together. The talent alone will win them a bunch of games, but how well they fit together will determine if they can challenge the Warriors.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:09 PM
Any chance Cavs trade Shumpert for a big yet? Cavs seem a bit thin at center. They got Love at PF and Thompson at center and Frye off the bench. Yeah LeBron can play PF as well. If IT takes a long time to recover. Man Cavs PG depth is meh. Calderon should of been retire like 4 years ago. Rose can score but mainly short jumpers in the paint. Deron been on the decline since he begged to be traded from Jazz. Log jam at the wings. Asik and Shumpert are horrible. Junk for junk trade. But fit position of need. Heck i'd even consider Shumpert for Henson.

I think they're still waiting on what Zizic can do but they're definitely shortchanged at the C spot. Frye is too soft for that and plays minimal defense. I'm thinking a trade for Cousins will be imminent if the opportunity arises.

BTW, the haters here are HILARIOUS. Cavs got Wade for $2.3 million. That's a steal.

Hopper15
09-26-2017, 06:10 PM
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doesnt mean it wont work either my dude........i know like you, like alot of yall ,are mad about lebron going to his 8th finals in a row come this season,but thats just the way the cookie crumbles

Defensively I'm quite confident it won't work. Rose was one of the worst rated PG's defensively last year and Wade defense has deteriorated steeply due to age and injuries.

I'd rather ignore your Lebron ramble that makes no sense to me. I'll just point out Lebron wants the floor spaced so he can drive or kick out to a shooter. Rose and Wade on the floor together don't help him there.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:12 PM
Defensively I'm quite confident it won't work. Rose was one of the worst rated PG's defensively last year and Wade defense has deteriorated steeply due to age and injuries.

I'd rather ignore your Lebron ramble that makes no sense to me. I'll just point out Lebron wants the floor spaced so he can drive or kick out to a shooter. Rose and Wade on the floor together don't help him there.

They're replacing Deron Williams and Kay Felder for Rose and Wade. Can you stop being a blatant hater? You're annoying at this point. I can make cases for every team having a player who doesn't fit. Wade for $2.3 million and a box of donuts is a steal for this team. Just go away.

R. Johnson#3
09-26-2017, 06:13 PM
No surprise here really.

IT
Wade
LBJ
Love
TT

Then guys like Crowder, Rose, Korver, Green, Shump and JR on the bench. This is the best bet Cleveland has of beating GS. If this team fails and crumbles, then GS dominates for another 3 years.

I don't expect to see Wade play 25mpg this season. Closer to 20 if anything. Wade can still bring it in the post-season and that's what he's there for. I take this past post season with a grain of salt because that Bulls team was dysfunctional. Wade is back with LBJ and even if he's not the same D-Wade, Lebron will make him better. He just has to survive the reg season.

Bostonjorge
09-26-2017, 06:13 PM
Wade making a huge mistake.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:14 PM
2010, they tried to get a Rose+LeBron+Wade in Chicago.

2017, it happens.

Heediot
09-26-2017, 06:17 PM
2010, they tried to get a Rose+LeBron+Wade in Chicago.

2017, it happens.

At 1/3 the cost, but also 1/3 the prime (LeBron in his). I'll take it just for the price and value.

HandsOnTheWheel
09-26-2017, 06:22 PM
I'm going to reserve judgement bc they still have the BKN pick and can flip that into something. If Cle were able to get PG for Love (something along those lines) and follow up with all these moves/possibly add wildcard like Bosh I would say they would have stood a fighting chance against GS.

IT/Rose/Calderon
Wade/Smith/Korver/Shump
PG/Crowder/Jefferson
LBJ/Bosh/Osman/Green
TT/Bosh

Damn lol

Hopper15
09-26-2017, 06:25 PM
They're replacing Deron Williams and Kay Felder for Rose and Wade. Can you stop being a blatant hater? You're annoying at this point. I can make cases for every team having a player who doesn't fit. Wade for $2.3 million and a box of donuts is a steal for this team. Just go away.

No one is forcing you to read my posts. Use the ignore list for all I care.

Burkey3472
09-26-2017, 06:25 PM
They are certainly better but they are still short of GS. You do have that Nets picks to potentially trade though to get you a piece that could get them a lot closer though.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:26 PM
I'm going to reserve judgement bc they still have the BKN pick and can flip that into something. If Cle were able to get PG for Love (something along those lines) and follow up with all these moves/possibly add wildcard like Bosh I would say they would have stood a fighting chance against GS.

IT/Rose/Calderon
Wade/Smith/Korver/Shump
PG/Crowder/Jefferson
LBJ/Bosh/Osman/Green
TT/Bosh

Damn lol

If they had traded Love for PG, they wouldn't have gotten that Boston deal. Plus, they now have that 1st rounder from Brooklyn that they can package midseason - where desperate teams may consider it for a high quality player if the team isn't winning.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:27 PM
No one is forcing you to read my posts. Use the ignore list for all I care.

It's impossible to stop reading it when your posts are being quoted.. I can't turn a blind eye on stupidity.

Heediot
09-26-2017, 06:27 PM
I'm going to reserve judgement bc they still have the BKN pick and can flip that into something. If Cle were able to get PG for Love (something along those lines) and follow up with all these moves/possibly add wildcard like Bosh I would say they would have stood a fighting chance against GS.

IT/Rose/Calderon
Wade/Smith/Korver/Shump
PG/Crowder/Jefferson
LBJ/Bosh/Osman/Green
TT/Bosh

Damn lol

Personally I think Zizic is going to be a better pro vs Cedi. I think Cedi is going to flop in the NBA. Zizic will at least be a rotational guy IMO.

Hopper15
09-26-2017, 06:30 PM
It's impossible to stop reading it when your posts are being quoted.. I can't turn a blind eye on stupidity.

Well cry me a river.

WestCoastSportz
09-26-2017, 06:30 PM
Wade is on the back 9 of his career and is close to being finished. Not a knock on Wade, because he'll eventually be in the Hall of Fame, but age gets us all. There's no escaping it. He's not going to make a huge difference in Cleveland. A slight difference..absolutely. Thomas, Wade, James, Love and Thompson looks good on paper, but probably not good enough to win the East. Boston should run away with the conference.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:31 PM
Wade is on the back 9 of his career and is close to being finished. Not a knock on Wade, because he'll eventually be in the Hall of Fame, but age gets us all. There's no escaping it. He's not going to make a huge difference in Cleveland. A slight difference..absolutely. Thomas, Wade, James, Love and Thompson looks good on paper, but probably not good enough to win the East. Boston should run away with the conference.

Wade would be the fourth best player for the Celtics...

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 06:42 PM
It's impossible to stop reading it when your posts are being quoted.. I can't turn a blind eye on stupidity.

Like you have room to talk. lol at that stupid example you made with Lebron and KD in this thread.

FlashBolt
09-26-2017, 06:50 PM
Like you have room to talk. lol at that stupid example you made with Lebron and KD in this thread.

Funny that the only one who expects Wade to make a huge difference is actually.. you. No one has said any of that. We're saying he's a good pickup for a player worth $2.3 million and he'll be able to contribute. How is the LeBron and KD stupid? It's an argument that just because you have J.R. and Shump, doesn't mean Wade isn't a good pickup for $2.3 million.

Bowman53
09-26-2017, 07:49 PM
Funny that the only one who expects Wade to make a huge difference is actually.. you. No one has said any of that. We're saying he's a good pickup for a player worth $2.3 million and he'll be able to contribute. How is the LeBron and KD stupid? It's an argument that just because you have J.R. and Shump, doesn't mean Wade isn't a good pickup for $2.3 million.

How did any of my posts in this thread give you that idea? But it doesn't surprise when you think Rose and Wade are replacing reserves Deron Williams and Kay Felder(who hardly plays) which isn't even close considering they will be starters probably half the season.

The Lebron and KD example was stupid because you don't compare signing a player that's past his prime to (passing) signing an elite player like KD because you have another elite player in Lebron. That couldn't be further from an ideal comparison.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 08:29 PM
2010, they tried to get a Rose+LeBron+Wade in Chicago.

2017, it happens.

Thank god it didn't happen in Chicago, those fans don't deserve that.

COOLbeans
09-26-2017, 08:38 PM
now that young wade poster can hop on the Cavs bandwagon and have a real reason to despise the Warriors. Great job Wade guy

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 08:43 PM
now that young wade poster can hop on the Cavs bandwagon and have a real reason to despise the Warriors. Great job Wade guy

I thought someone told you to ban yourself.....

IndyRealist
09-26-2017, 09:16 PM
I'd be so pissed if that happened lol!

No team will claim him off waivers just for him to say, "well, then I'm retiring." Chauncey showed how to break the waiver wire system.

valade16
09-26-2017, 09:21 PM
Can anyone name a player who is better than Wade who gets paid $2.3 mil or less?

It has to be a short list.

HandsOnTheWheel
09-26-2017, 09:29 PM
Can anyone name a player who is better than Wade who gets paid $2.3 mil or less?

It has to be a short list.

Lmao this man averaged close to 19 a game last year on decent efficiency. What a steal.

Dade County
09-26-2017, 09:51 PM
Wade is on the back 9 of his career and is close to being finished. Not a knock on Wade, because he'll eventually be in the Hall of Fame, but age gets us all. There's no escaping it. He's not going to make a huge difference in Cleveland. A slight difference..absolutely. Thomas, Wade, James, Love and Thompson looks good on paper, but probably not good enough to win the East. Boston should run away with the conference.


:laugh2:

JasonJohnHorn
09-26-2017, 09:55 PM
You know.... people thought Cleveland wasn't doing much this offseason, but...


Adding Jae, Rose, and Wade is pretty good.. and IT ain't no Kyrie, but he ain't so bad either. And to boot, they get a top pick (assuming the Nets don't pull off some miracle season).

I'd say that's a pretty good haul for a team that only lost one piece.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 09:55 PM
Can anyone name a player who is better than Wade who gets paid $2.3 mil or less?

It has to be a short list.

What I've been wondering. Has to be one of the best contracts in the league tbh. They obviously won't trade him but talk about value if they were to do so.

MJNetsIsles
09-26-2017, 09:56 PM
now that young wade poster can hop on the Cavs bandwagon and have a real reason to despise the Warriors. Great job Wade guy

I find him very annoying as well.

Plus, now he's anti Chicago Bulls.

Like a bitter ex wife.

He thinks his Wade fandom has an impact.

Checkpoint. It doesn't and he could careless about you.

IndyRealist
09-26-2017, 09:58 PM
Lmao this man averaged close to 19 a game last year on decent efficiency. What a steal.

We have vastly different opinions on what "decent efficiency" means. 50.8% TS is pretty horrendous. Three years earlier, he was at 58.8% TS.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 09:58 PM
I find him very annoying as well.

Plus, now he's anti Chicago Bulls.

Like a bitter ex wife.

He thinks his Wade fandom has an impact.

Checkpoint. It doesn't and he could careless about you.

I've been bitter to the Bulls all year. Your post are garbage and your a fan of an irrelevant team, I can't relate.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 09:59 PM
We have vastly different opinions on what "decent efficiency" means. 50.8% TS is pretty horrendous. Three years earlier, he was at 58.8% TS.

With LeBron right? Now they're back, let's see what they can do.

nastynice
09-26-2017, 10:01 PM
I could see him winning them a game in a tough playoff series. Seems like a good deal to me.

IndyRealist
09-26-2017, 10:02 PM
Can anyone name a player who is better than Wade who gets paid $2.3 mil or less?

It has to be a short list.

Nikola Jokic.

nastynice
09-26-2017, 10:02 PM
I've been bitter to the Bulls all year. Your post are garbage and your a fan of an irrelevant team, I can't relate.

Unless ur a dubs fan, ur also a fan of an irrelevant team ;)

Meaning I too cannot relate

lol, I joke!

IndyRealist
09-26-2017, 10:06 PM
With LeBron right? Now they're back, let's see what they can do.

Oh I agree Lebron makes everyone better. And Wade won't play full time minutes until the playoffs, if at all. I expect him to have a resurgence of sorts. But he's steadily declined every year for a while now, and it started before Lebron left. That's not solely from not playing with Lebron. His game was never going to age well.

nastynice
09-26-2017, 10:11 PM
You know.... people thought Cleveland wasn't doing much this offseason, but...


Adding Jae, Rose, and Wade is pretty good.. and IT ain't no Kyrie, but he ain't so bad either. And to boot, they get a top pick (assuming the Nets don't pull off some miracle season).

I'd say that's a pretty good haul for a team that only lost one piece.

Considering where they were not too long ago, clearly inferior to the Warriors with kyrie now wanting out, I'd actually grade them A+ from that point on. Great job by their fo, warriors are still in their own league, but they got a lot of talent (not prime, but good talent nonetheless), enough to get a good little buzz going.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 10:11 PM
Oh I agree Lebron makes everyone better. And Wade won't play full time minutes until the playoffs, if at all. I expect him to have a resurgence of sorts. But he's steadily declined every year for a while now, and it started before Lebron left. That's not solely from not playing with Lebron. His game was never going to age well.

I agree there definitely has been a decline, especially if you look at the regular season but, in terms of his somewhat recent play, give me 2015-16 Wade over 2013-14 2014-15 and 2016-17. Wish he didn't have that injury to end last season and didn't go into the playoffs rusty because of it but it is what it is. If he can give them 15-4-4-1-1 on 50% shooting and a respectable 3 point shot defense have to guard I'll be happy. I think that's all pretty reasonable. He shot 55.4% from the field his last season with LeBron on 1 leg and I don't feel the decline has been THAT steep since then.

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 10:12 PM
Unless ur a dubs fan, ur also a fan of an irrelevant team ;)

Meaning I too cannot relate

lol, I joke!

Lol! You better be worried if that Nets pick gets traded!

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 10:13 PM
If Westbrook agrees to that extension soon does that almost guarantee LeBron stays and that Nets pick is traded?

nastynice
09-26-2017, 10:28 PM
Lol! You better be worried if that Nets pick gets traded!

lol, bro this is like the week before the finals all over again!

Fun times :)

nastynice
09-26-2017, 10:29 PM
If Westbrook agrees to that extension soon does that almost guarantee LeBron stays and that Nets pick is traded?

Why would Westbrook extension effect lebron?

WaDe03
09-26-2017, 10:33 PM
Why would Westbrook extension effect lebron?

Because the rumors are Westbrook/PG/LeBron super team in LA

mrblisterdundee
09-26-2017, 10:34 PM
It'll be interesting to see what role he plays. I'd be interesting to see him play point guard while Isaiah recovers. Wade could lead the bench, surrounded by shooters to open up the post. But I would start Smith just for his defense, shooting and slightly better athleticism.

HandsOnTheWheel
09-26-2017, 10:41 PM
@Indy Not the worst I've seen. Lebron effect will be present, Wade will most likely be used sparingly his advanced stats won't be anything to fret about next year.

redsox12
09-26-2017, 10:44 PM
This is a great move for the cavs, and it helps convince LeBron to stay in CLE for the future because they are not going to LA.