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HandsOnTheWheel
09-19-2017, 11:26 PM
Take into account careers (Accolades/Rings/Awards/Accomplishments) of each of the available players and take your pick

1.) Michael Jordan
2.) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3.)

FlashBolt
09-20-2017, 12:19 AM
Probably a homer pick but then again, not really. LeBron here.

Realistically, you could say it comes down to Wilt or LeBron at this point. I just think LeBron is the better overall player and if you want to argue stats, Wilt's were great but that era was built for centers to absolutely dominate every category and the lack of competition for a variety of factors really puts everything into perspective. Game was still very young back then whereas the game is incredibly versatile today. You can't just be a Charles Oakley type of guy and expect to play in the current NBA. LeBron has enough rings, accomplishments, and seniority to be #3 at this stage of his career. Potentially #2 if he can crack a few more records and maybe get another ring.

YAALREADYKNO
09-20-2017, 04:57 AM
Lebrawn jaymes

Hawkeye15
09-20-2017, 08:40 AM
Wilt

europagnpilgrim
09-20-2017, 09:57 AM
Shaq or Russell or Oscar

mrblisterdundee
09-20-2017, 10:29 AM
LeBron. It's only a matter of time until he's seen as clearly better than Kareem.

GREATNESS ONE
09-20-2017, 10:32 AM
Magic or Wilt for me. Lebron needs another ring or two to be up here with the big boys.

WaDe03
09-20-2017, 11:08 AM
Magic or Wilt for me. Lebron needs another ring or two to be up here with the big boys.

Wilt only has 2.

valade16
09-20-2017, 11:44 AM
I was going to ask if it's too early to go LeBron here but apparently not. Lol

GREATNESS ONE
09-20-2017, 01:51 PM
Wilt only has 2.

Yea I have Magic here.

mngopher35
09-20-2017, 01:52 PM
I think this is probably right for Lebron, I think he can catch KAJ with the right longevity too.

GREATNESS ONE
09-20-2017, 01:55 PM
Lololol Wow.

And no more voting for me.

WaDe03
09-20-2017, 01:57 PM
I can't be convinced anyone left on the list is better than LeBron. Honestly probably should've went 2nd but I voted Kareem because he has everything.

Lakers + Giants
09-20-2017, 02:33 PM
Lebron here for me.

FlashBolt
09-20-2017, 06:13 PM
Hate the people disappointed at the voting but offer zero intel on why. If you can't come up with an argument, most likely it is because you don't have one.

tredigs
09-20-2017, 07:09 PM
I would listen to arguments for Wilt, Russell and Lebron here. Ultimately though, with Lebron entering year 15 and having 7-10 seasons now as the clear cut best player in the game (granted no longer often the best player in the regular season the past few years) - during a time when competition is fierce - I'd go with him. He also never missed significant time in the regular season (always being the best player on his team in leading them to a top playoff spot for a decade+ now), and is the best overall player in the post-season for the past decade much more often than not as well. Jordan > KAJ > 'Bron feels right at this point.

Raps18-19 Champ
09-20-2017, 07:57 PM
Lebron should've been #1 so I'd go with him.

FlashBolt
09-20-2017, 08:55 PM
Lebron should've been #1 so I'd go with him.

Lol no way.

WaDe03
09-20-2017, 09:26 PM
I really see no way someone could put anyone else over LeBron at this point.

Raps18-19 Champ
09-20-2017, 09:31 PM
Lol no way.

Lol whoops. Meant #2. I'm sure many (most) would disagree but I stand by it.

FlashBolt
09-20-2017, 09:44 PM
I really see no way someone could put anyone else over LeBron at this point.

Except Dwyane wade..

WaDe03
09-20-2017, 11:37 PM
Except Dwyane wade..

That goes without saying, he's undisputed #1.

Chronz
09-21-2017, 12:08 PM
Shaq or Wilt


Magic or Wilt for me. Lebron needs another ring or two to be up here with the big boys.

That made zero sense.

dhopisthename
09-21-2017, 03:36 PM
I was looking at wilt vs lebron and its kinda crazy that lebron has played more regular season games already then wilt did.

mngopher35
09-21-2017, 04:35 PM
I was looking at wilt vs lebron and its kinda crazy that lebron has played more regular season games already then wilt did.

I briefly looked at some of his longevity stuff too to make sure he matched up. He was 28th in minutes in RS and 2nd in the playoffs (will be 1st shortly), pretty impressive. His longevity fits in just fine now compared to these other all time greats.

Hawkeye15
09-22-2017, 09:33 AM
I was looking at wilt vs lebron and its kinda crazy that lebron has played more regular season games already then wilt did.

right but the ranking of a current over a retired is always so difficult to do. When the dust settles, long after LeBron is done, I would guess he is ranked top 3 on pretty much everyone's list, outside the haters.

Hawkeye15
09-22-2017, 09:35 AM
the only players who have a case here are Wilt, LeBron, Shaq. Anyone else, doesn't belong in the conversation yet.

mightybosstone
09-22-2017, 12:45 PM
It's clearly Lebron. I'm glad to see he's dominating the voting, and I would have made a strong case for him as No. 2. His combination of basic statistical dominance, advanced statistical dominance, postseason prowess, all-around stellar versatility on the court and crazy endurance/longevity make him an obvious choice here. I'd be willing to briefly hear a case for Wilt, but I'm not really sure what that case would be. He doesn't have Lebron beat in terms of postseason production or longevity, so you'd almost have to make a case based on peak performance, which I just have a hard time taking seriously in the 60s versus what Lebron has done the last 15 years.

I don't really see a legitimate case here for anyone else.

tredigs
09-22-2017, 02:10 PM
the only players who have a case here are Wilt, LeBron, Shaq. Anyone else, doesn't belong in the conversation yet.

Shaq? Shaq was never considered top-3 All-Time during or immediately following his career, it would be pretty strange to include him now that 1-2 players ('Bron and Duncan) have passed him up. I think that arguably the best defender and greatest leader to this day has a stronger case than Shaq for sure. His 5 MVP's (never finishing worse than 4th after his rookie season) in a league that included (at one point if not the duration) Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Bob Pettit, Elgin Baylor, Lucas, Hondo, Oscar Robertson, Willis Reed, Rick Barry, etc is no small feat. Led the league in defensive win shares EVERY SEASON, and would have likely had at minimum 9 DPOY's and Finals MVP's had the awards existed. Top 5 rebounder, shot-blocker and by many accounts maybe the most intelligent player bbiq wise to this day.

He - without question - belongs in any Top-5 All Time debate.

More-Than-Most
09-22-2017, 07:27 PM
Lololol Wow.

And no more voting for me.

:laugh:

How many times did you slam your Keyboard after looking at this? Sorry but there is no argument against... Lebron will end up top 2 ever really let that sink in.