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HandsOnTheWheel
07-25-2017, 11:03 PM
It might be only a matter of time before the SuperSonics return to Seattle.

In a Players’ Tribune interview with CJ McCollum, NBA commissioner Adam Silver said that Seattle will “no doubt be on a short list of cities” when the NBA expands.

“I think it’s just a question of when the right time is to seriously start thinking about expansion.” […]



“I don’t want to put a precise timeline on it, but it’s inevitable at some point that we’ll start looking at growth of franchises. That’s always been the case in this league.



“And Seattle will no doubt be on a short list of cities that we’ll look at.”


Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/nba/adam-silver-seattle-short-list-cities-nba-expansion/#eUvQLq1UZxXKz3LD.99

Good news.

FlashBolt
07-25-2017, 11:08 PM
Well this is awkward....

BKLYNpigeon
07-25-2017, 11:20 PM
Just move the Pelicans. Announce it during Football season and nobody will notice.

Raps18-19 Champ
07-25-2017, 11:22 PM
Vegas, Vancouver, Seattle and Louisville are the 4 I'd bet on.

BKLYNpigeon
07-25-2017, 11:33 PM
Expansion draft would be fun.

Teams can only protect 8 players.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2017, 12:03 AM
Vegas and Seattle please.

mightybosstone
07-26-2017, 12:04 AM
Except we don't need more teams. We need less. When only one or two teams have a realistic shot of winning a championship, adding more cellar dwellers won't fix the problem.

The only way I'm in favor of this is if the Warriors lose one of the core four in an expansion draft and/or it somehow leads to the NBA fixing its broken playoffs.

FlashBolt
07-26-2017, 12:08 AM
Expansion of teams = monetary reasons. I don't think these new owners give a damn what competition becomes of this. With how expensive NBA franchises and profitable it has become, I'm sure every state/potential owner wants in.

LA_Raiders
07-26-2017, 12:29 AM
Wait until the free loaders retire, LeFlop and KD.

LOb0
07-26-2017, 12:57 AM
The last thing that is needed is more teams when the majority of teams suck.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2017, 01:12 AM
Send the Clippers to Seattle and the Pelicans to Las Vegas.

More-Than-Most
07-26-2017, 01:18 AM
Expansion draft would be fun.

Teams can only protect 8 players.

**** that... teams should only be allowed to protect 3 players... helps hurt the warriors : )

LaVar Ball
07-26-2017, 01:29 AM
Except we don't need more teams. We need less. When only one or two teams have a realistic shot of winning a championship, adding more cellar dwellers won't fix the problem.

The only way I'm in favor of this is if the Warriors lose one of the core four in an expansion draft and/or it somehow leads to the NBA fixing its broken playoffs.


I agree. All the small market owners leeching off of the big market owning teams and never really looking to improve their own franchises while the owner's of those small market owner teams are filthy rich because they have other businesses they own outside of basketball. Why not look into cities like Denver, Milwaukee, Memphis, Minnesota, Atlanta who will always stay mediocre and never make a true impact or splash or every really compete for a championship and get rid of them.

lakerfan85
07-26-2017, 02:30 AM
Except we don't need more teams. We need less. When only one or two teams have a realistic shot of winning a championship, adding more cellar dwellers won't fix the problem.

The only way I'm in favor of this is if the Warriors lose one of the core four in an expansion draft and/or it somehow leads to the NBA fixing its broken playoffs.

Agree 100%..

chitownredbulls
07-26-2017, 04:42 AM
No need for expansion... move the ****ing clippers.... no city should have 2 teams period!!!!!!!.... and I mean that for every sport... it's ****ing stupid!!!

More-Than-Most
07-26-2017, 04:53 AM
No need for expansion... move the ****ing clippers.... no city should have 2 teams period!!!!!!!.... and I mean that for every sport... it's ****ing stupid!!!

i disagree really....I hate New York for example but id rather have another new york team or LA team over say a lesser populated city who doesnt really care for the sport... New York and LA are ****ing huge... Honestly i never understood why pitt doesnt have a basketball team.. The steelers/Penguins are 2 of the best teams in sports and the pirates are one of the best teams to go watch with their stadium and so on yet they dont have a basketball team

Ahriman
07-26-2017, 05:14 AM
I agree. All the small market owners leeching off of the big market owning teams and never really looking to improve their own franchises while the owner's of those small market owner teams are filthy rich because they have other businesses they own outside of basketball. Why not look into cities like Denver, Milwaukee, Memphis, Minnesota, Atlanta who will always stay mediocre and never make a true impact or splash or every really compete for a championship and get rid of them.

Atlanta and Memphis recently had two of the longest consecutive post-season appareances. Minnesota and Denver are up and coming teams who should make noise pretty soon (Minnesota always had ****** luck in draft position except for the year they had Towns)

I could agree with Milwaukee as they seem to be horribly run but you're wrong for the other teams.
Atlanta might be moved for a different reason though (bad attendance)

Ahriman
07-26-2017, 05:26 AM
Honestly i never understood why pitt doesnt have a basketball team.. The steelers/Penguins are 2 of the best teams in sports and the pirates are one of the best teams to go watch with their stadium and so on yet they dont have a basketball team

Wouldn't that actually be bad for the Basketball team? Huge fanbase behind other sports in the same city often care more for the main sports. A canadian co-worker of mine told me he cared most for the Maple Leafs and Blue Jays than the Raps, even though the Raps are currently the best performing of the trio (maybe Blue Jays do better, but I do not watch baseball)

IndyRealist
07-26-2017, 09:49 AM
No need for expansion... move the ****ing clippers.... no city should have 2 teams period!!!!!!!.... and I mean that for every sport... it's ****ing stupid!!!

No, it's financially sensible. LA, NYC, Chicago and Houston are where all the people are, and therefore all the disposable income. They could easily support multiple teams. And the Clippers will never move because they only have to pay for half an arena. They would be stupid to move to a smaller city and have to pay all the costs.

IndyRealist
07-26-2017, 09:53 AM
Send the Clippers to Seattle and the Pelicans to Las Vegas.

Clippers have a sweetheart arena deal in LA, and the Pelicans was Stern's legacy project to "save" New Orleans. Those teams aren't moving.

Vegas and Seattle, move Memphis to the East.

Scoots
07-26-2017, 11:31 AM
**** that... teams should only be allowed to protect 3 players... helps hurt the warriors : )

Would the Cavs protect LeBron, Kyrie, Love, or TT if that draft was next week? I think not :)

AllBall
07-26-2017, 11:46 AM
Won't happen unless they build a new arena. Sometimes you have to do it at all costs. Even in Miami they committed fraud and fleeced the taxpayers for Marlins Park, but hey that's the kind of political sleaziness crap it takes to get the All Star Game.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 11:55 AM
A lot of horrible franchises in the NBA over the last 10-15 years. Sacramento, New Orleans, Indiana, Atlanta, Orlando, Milwaukee, Utah, Minnesota, Toronto, LAClippers, Denver, OKCThunder, Brooklyn, Philadelphia.

The NBA needs to take away around 6 of these teams. Also they need to implement a new rule that forces the sell of a team at auction prices if an Owner does not advance the franchise to the second round in a 6 year period of time. This would force Owners to try.

IndyRealist
07-26-2017, 12:56 PM
A lot of horrible franchises in the NBA over the last 10-15 years. Sacramento, New Orleans, Indiana, Atlanta, Orlando, Milwaukee, Utah, Minnesota, Toronto, LAClippers, Denver, OKCThunder, Brooklyn, Philadelphia.

The NBA needs to take away around 6 of these teams. Also they need to implement a new rule that forces the sell of a team at auction prices if an Owner does not advance the franchise to the second round in a 6 year period of time. This would force Owners to try.
In the last 15 years the Pacers have 684 wins, the Rockets have 731. So if the Pacers have been terrible, the Rockets were right there with them with a much larger metro and not having to pay a percent of tv revenue to the Kentucky Colonel's former owners.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 03:22 PM
In the last 15 years the Pacers have 684 wins, the Rockets have 731. So if the Pacers have been terrible, the Rockets were right there with them with a much larger metro and not having to pay a percent of tv revenue to the Kentucky Colonel's former owners.

The Pacers have been a major disappointment over the last 15 years. also they have some of the ugliest jerseys and court design even the ugly plain logo on the back of the shorts looks so dumb and stupid. They've had that for the last 10 years and the ugly pinstripes they went with forever. They just never make their team look half way decent which is the reason their team is a major disappointment every season. They haven't made a Finals since 2000.

They need to go. Same with Milwaukee, and the Jazz, and the Atlanta Hawks. I'm even a fan of most of these teams during the 90's but they haven't done anything but put an worse and more ugly jersey and logo out there.

And yes that matters a lot. I've studied business, logos and trademarks. Also studied Sports and players play better with better jerseys. They don't play well when they have butt ugly jerseyse, court, and logo. It gets to them after a while. This is the NBA. you'd think they could get a trademark specialist and some designers that know how to draw and free hand a good logo and jerseys as well as court design. They did in the 90's. Why have they gone to the Computer designed everything, It's because they're lazy. Computers can't design. They HAVE NO SOUL

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 03:30 PM
I think they should get rid of the Rockets too. They have a stupid owner that just wants them to shoot 3's. Also They have ugly jerseys too. But just not as ugly as 14 other teams. They're still bad overall though, plain and boring. Just red and write with boxy, computery looking logos and designs on the jerseys. Also their court is boring the last 15 years. Just plain wood with red lines. PLAIN. BORING.

so you can see I'm not biased.

Even the Mavericks have a boring looking court now and an uglier logo. It's still the same logo from 10 years ago but more "slanted out" and more "sharp" to bring out the computer age with sharper more machine like lines. And their court is just that blue and just wood color.

I think the Warriors even have bad jerseys overall and a bad looking court. Spurs are boring too now, just black and white jerseys. Their logo is just black.

The product of the NBA is pretty down the last couple of years. Many people don't really watch the Regular season anymore because everything has just caught up to the NBA. poor management in the NBA for 15 years has caught up to them.


But I listed the WORST jerseys and logos and also teams that don't really ever try to win.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 03:35 PM
Atlanta's new jerseys is SOO BAD. Also their new court is ugly too with the triangles that look like some folder in a trapper keeper all in the lane. Their old navy blue jerseys were really bad too with the HUGE Atlanta hawks logo on the back of the shorts.

They shoud just go back to their 80's jersey or their 70's jersey, Also their late 90/s jerseys were fresh too with the Hawk attacking.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-26-2017, 03:41 PM
Bucks have a bit of bad luck and just sold to new owners couple years ago. Factor in previous owner was a meddler and 8th seed or bust on short sighted moves like Tobias for rental Redick. Parker getting injured with 2 ACL injuries. Also drafted Redd in second round and became a All Star but then held the franchise hostage cap wise with more less career ending injuries on super max deal. Beside Bogut was here then as well missing games off and on. Then prior to that in mid to late 90's Karl broke up the big 3 of Allen, Robinson, Cassell.

Allen for washed up Gary Payton was putrid. But also Bucks never do the obvious tank job like other teams. That Parker draft Bucks entire roster was injured off and on most of the season. Only reason we got lucky being that high in the draft. Don't believe me bring up that season and look at how many games each Buck played in. Also Bucks were one of the fastest winning a championship in the first 5 years in the league when they joined. Well we got lucky having Kareem.

Then he wanted Hollywood and movies and the limelight. So we got the shaft. Also Bucks had the draft rights to DR J back then and ended up with like $300K out of that deal cause he went to ABA instead of NBA. But yeah my Bucks been **** for a while. Even before Baker we had Murdock,Day,Edwards and Duckworth and Benjamin and many other turds. 80's were great for a while. But never got passed Celtics or 76ers or Pistons. Then Bulls hogged the show in the 90's. Championship windows open and close fast in this league.

Heck Warriors are lucky Bucks wanted 8th seed that time we traded them Bogut and took Ellis over Curry with his glass ankles. Also we could of had Klay if we didn't trade Salmons to Kings and we moved down that draft for Tobias and knuckle head Stephen Jackson. But we had interests in Klay that draft if we didn't move down and picking Jimmer for the Kings.

But Bucks do have Giannis now on a new 4 year deal. We pretty much have to do something right now.

AllBall
07-26-2017, 03:45 PM
So now this thread is about getting rid of teams because you don't like their jerseys. :rolleyes:

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 03:50 PM
Bucks have a bit of bad luck and just sold to new owners couple years ago. Factor in previous owner was a meddler and 8th seed or bust on short sighted moves like Tobias for rental Redick. Parker getting injured with 2 ACL injuries. Also drafted Redd in second round and became a All Star but then held the franchise hostage cap wise with more less career ending injuries on super max deal. Beside Bogut was here then as well missing games off and on. Then prior to that in mid to late 90's Karl broke up the big 3 of Allen, Robinson, Cassell.

Allen for washed up Gary Payton was putrid. But also Bucks never do the obvious tank job like other teams. That Parker draft Bucks entire roster was injured off and on most of the season. Only reason we got lucky being that high in the draft. Don't believe me bring up that season and look at how many games each Buck played in. Also Bucks were one of the fastest winning a championship in the first 5 years in the league when they joined. Well we got lucky having Kareem.

Then he wanted Hollywood and movies and the limelight. So we got the shaft. Also Bucks had the draft rights to DR J back then and ended up with like $300K out of that deal cause he went to ABA instead of NBA. But yeah my Bucks been **** for a while. Even before Baker we had Murdock,Day,Edwards and Duckworth and Benjamin and many other turds. 80's were great for a while. But never got passed Celtics or 76ers or Pistons. Then Bulls hogged the show in the 90's. Championship windows open and close fast in this league.

Heck Warriors are lucky Bucks wanted 8th seed that time we traded them Bogut and took Ellis over Curry with his glass ankles. Also we could of had Klay if we didn't trade Salmons to Kings and we moved down that draft for Tobias and knuckle head Stephen Jackson. But we had interests in Klay that draft if we didn't move down and picking Jimmer for the Kings.

But Bucks do have Giannis now on a new 4 year deal. We pretty much have to do something right now.


The Bucks suck because of their jerseys and logos' over the last 10 years. Too boxey, robotic, computery, also their court is ugly, sharp and boxy. No SOUL and Basketball is a "creative," "soul" sport. The good logos from the 90's were great and that is why the Bucks were a big draw and a great team to watch then. Also Why they won every year with players like Baker, Gilliam, Robinson and the others. Now they have the same level players but don't win and no one cares to watch them. Their court is maybe the second ugliest court in basketball history to only charlottes ugly court right now.

But a good artist that knows how to free hand draw, Not too easy to find good drawers anymore because they don't practice anymore and also many of the ones that did tried to draw japanease style which is too sharp and lacks creativity really and soul, which somewhat ruined art. Get someone to draw a Buck and then give it some good colors. Get them to redesign the court with style. Get new jerseys and your team will be in the ECF or Finals every year. You have one of the best players in the NBA.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 04:04 PM
That's what I'm saying there is an epidemic in the NBA with crummy generic 2 bit logos, court designs and jerseys. It all went that way about 2006 when the NBA really started to suck right after that and has gotten worse sense. The only teams that still kept their original trademark and logo are teams like Cleveland, GSW, NY, Chicago, Dallas in a way, Celtics and Lakers. What do you know that those are the only teams that matter pretty much and the only teams that have done anything over the last 10 years. Also San An sort of kept their same look. Although they got rid of the Southwest colors which most people liked and it added some color to the building and court. But all the other teams that changed up their look with a generic computer logo are garbage and don't make the playoffs every single year.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 04:06 PM
Jazz, Hawks, Bucks, Raptors, Pacers, Nuggets, Clippers and many others have had bad jerseys, courts and logos since about 2004. Yet they had good jerseys in the 90's and would win more and were watched by their fans and the NBA Fans then.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 04:08 PM
Why do you think there is only 3-4 good teams every year now. IT's because those are the only 3-4 teams with good jerseys AND good players. There are many teams with BAD jerseys and they draft great players but nothing ever happens.

Rockets94fan
07-26-2017, 04:18 PM
So now this thread is about getting rid of teams because you don't like their jerseys. :rolleyes: for 15 years they have been bad for half the league. So yeah. Jerseys, Trademarks and logos matter. Look at the DALLAS COWBOYS

The owners don't have a clue that is why you get rid of half the teams in the NBA to send a message. Kids the NBA is bad now and has been bad for about 15 years. There have only been about 6 good teams in the last 15 years. Out of 30 over a 15 year span.

Gibby23
07-26-2017, 04:18 PM
No, it's financially sensible. LA, NYC, Chicago and Houston are where all the people are, and therefore all the disposable income. They could easily support multiple teams. And the Clippers will never move because they only have to pay for half an arena. They would be stupid to move to a smaller city and have to pay all the costs.

That is not the reason the Clippers won't move feom LA. Lol. They are in the process of trying to get an arena deal in Inglewood,

AEG owns Staples Center, each team has separate costs paid to AEG and their own lease agreement, the costs would be the same if it was only 1 team that was a tenant. Same goes for the Los Angeles Kings who also play there.

IndyRealist
07-26-2017, 04:42 PM
The Pacers have been a major disappointment over the last 15 years. also they have some of the ugliest jerseys and court design even the ugly plain logo on the back of the shorts looks so dumb and stupid. They've had that for the last 10 years and the ugly pinstripes they went with forever. They just never make their team look half way decent which is the reason their team is a major disappointment every season. They haven't made a Finals since 2000.

They need to go. Same with Milwaukee, and the Jazz, and the Atlanta Hawks. I'm even a fan of most of these teams during the 90's but they haven't done anything but put an worse and more ugly jersey and logo out there.

And yes that matters a lot. I've studied business, logos and trademarks. Also studied Sports and players play better with better jerseys. They don't play well when they have butt ugly jerseyse, court, and logo. It gets to them after a while. This is the NBA. you'd think they could get a trademark specialist and some designers that know how to draw and free hand a good logo and jerseys as well as court design. They did in the 90's. Why have they gone to the Computer designed everything, It's because they're lazy. Computers can't design. They HAVE NO SOUL

lol wth.

Crackadalic
07-26-2017, 04:44 PM
If we get two more expansion teams i would move them to the west and move one west teams out east. NO or Memphis to the east can help create a better balance imo.

Crackadalic
07-26-2017, 04:47 PM
Honestly the wolves should be move to the central division. Them having the biggest travel time in the northwest division and even being there never made any sense to me

Saddletramp
07-26-2017, 05:24 PM
Adam Silver: "Hey, Pacers owner, you're losing your franchise. Why? Because your uniforms are garbage and your arena sucks. I've researched this, trust me. About to call Atlanta and San Antonio."

Leftcoast_yg
07-27-2017, 01:36 AM
Adam Silver: "Hey, Pacers owner, you're losing your franchise. Why? Because your uniforms are garbage and your arena sucks. I've researched this, trust me. About to call Atlanta and San Antonio."

I'm dying lol

Scoots
07-27-2017, 12:25 PM
What we need is a fleet of graphic designers and the game will improve.

I agree that some of the design in the NBA is bad ... but not bad enough to matter in the quality of the game being played. And 15 years ago the NBA was worse than it is now, and next year should be much better with hopefully far fewer teams tanking.

warfelg
07-27-2017, 12:32 PM
So now this thread is about getting rid of teams because you don't like their jerseys. :rolleyes:

I'm too mystified to reply.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 12:49 PM
they're mostly all boxy now. They are draw by some cheap computer and have no soul in the designs now. The NBA had it right in the 80's and 90's. 90's especially. Also a lot of the jerseys are shiny now. that is old and has been done now for about 12 years and it was never that good anyway. Take the Nuggets jerseys they haven't changed them for 12 years. They were never that good.

Also their new court now with no color baskically and with inlaid wood large mining picks is lame and looks boxy and ugly. The product could be marketed better. More fans, players playing better, everything would pick up then.

Jerseys do matter. The Oregon Ducks University has done countless studies on this. It drives something fresh and drives new excitement. Also they've done studies that it can improve play because of the positive atmosphere around a team. Oregon is a college that doesn't have NFL level players yet they are always ranked in the top 5.

A "look" matters in the Entertainment Business. On a street ball court maybe it doesn't matter but this is the National Basketball Association. Even Jeff Van Gundy was commenting on the new Ref Jerseys/ He said they look terrible and cheap. "Can we get something better than just a tight thin grey cheap t-shirt for the refs". "I mean this is the NBA". He commented on them during the summer league.

But overall many of the designs in the NBA with logos and everything is poor, and lacks imagination. Like take the 90's Hornets logo that was RAD and compare that to the garbage one today. Then look at the production. One team was the Face of the NEW NBA. the one now NO ONE WATCHS. Everyone was watching the Hornets in the 90's. Because they had a Fresh Look. If I could post both logos here everyone would agree the ones today look cheap and boxy. Their court is just as bad and this is a franchise that has been one of the most underperforming in Sports history since abour 2005. They've had countless lottery pick and pretty good players but they hardly ever win more than 35 games.

There are other reasons too why the NBA needs to reduce the number of franchises. Also they should go back to no Sharing of revenue. Let the best man win. Now days since the 1999 lock out the Owners wanted revenue sharing. Then in 2012 they made it even more about revenue Sharing between all the franchise. Infact now it's so that all the teams make the same amount. GSW make the same as the Charlotte Hornets.

In the 50's, 60's, 70's 80's and 90's. They didn't have revenue Sharing. The Best Man Wins then. It made for an actual competitive league.

Also it made it more about the Game.

I think there should also be a rule that forces the sale of a franchise at auction price if an owner doesn't advance the franchise to the 2nd round in 5 or 6 years.

I don't know why the NBA decided to change 60% of their logos drastically around 2005-2010 to distance theirsleves from the history and originality of the NBA. NFL, MLB didn't do that and they're just fine. And the NBA changed them all to something "Worse" and less "orginal" to say the least. . That is my point.

warfelg
07-30-2017, 01:23 PM
http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/6/218/full/c9sk4rz26c657eetjurev2g43.gif

http://phillysportscentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/iverson.jpg

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/burlingtoncountytimes.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/64/764314ee-932c-11e6-85c4-2f82af1f4b21/5802b7765d7e1.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C1522

You mean to tell me you like the atrocity that is those first two jerseys compared to the classic, clean, historical nods of the last one?

The first two played off trends.

The last one has the classic 13 star circular logo. The original Sixers logo on the shorts. The classic 70's "Phila" block lettering. The other jersey says "Sixers" in the same classic block lettering. The block numbering is classic Sixers too. There's 7 stars down one side, 6 down the other.

Many of the logos have gone to a "minimalist" design. When done right they have shown to be more effective in brand recognition too.

Nah. I prefer many of the modern jerseys. I mean look no further than the Bulls/Celtics/Lakers. Rarely change much on their jerseys and they have never gone out of style. I can't even wear my 2000's AI jersey without getting laughed at, and the 90's TWolves is really worn ironically because it was BAAAAD (and not the good way.).

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 01:34 PM
warflg. Thank You for the reply and the image posts. I like the 2nd one colors and logo the most probably. But I don't like the sheen or shine on that second one. The 1st one is the good and had a good cut to those jerseys. Also the logo is ok. The 3rd one is VERY BORING. They plain font in big type saying PHILA. That is 1950's. The jerseys were not that great in the 50's man. They got better in the 70's and 80's. Especially the 90's. They're best jersey overall for the Sixers was in the mid to late 90's that look similar to the second picture but not shiny and they still had the early 90's cut which was the best.

warfelg
07-30-2017, 01:42 PM
The first two have been voted some of the worst jerseys ever in the NBA.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 02:13 PM
The first two have been voted some of the worst jerseys ever in the NBA.

voted by who, You have to be careful what internet sites your reading from. If it's kids born around 2002. They never saw any of that and they grew up thinking Pokémon and sponge bob was cool. See I grew up in the 80's so we had actual artist draw cartoons then and we weren't dorks like those kids in the 2000's that think pokemon is cool. It's not even art at all. it's like 4 lines that are all straight and then they call it a character.

So you have to be careful of who is voting on that site.

https://static.mitchellandness.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/2/7226a_p76_97aiver_3b1_1.jpg

Here were the best jerseys in Sixers History. Best looking and what do you know they happened to have the some of the best years ever. Infact they haven't won a playoff game since like 09.

The picture I posted is a Replica a good Replica but a Game jersey will have more quality to it for sure especially during the 1990's. They put a lot of quality to it.

The Jerseys today are BORING and the NBA is trying to play off the Computer craze by just making many of the jerseys with plain letting and plain font with no real design or creativeness to it. They just get a basic computer to draw the logos today, Many of them at least. And the New TWolves Logo and jerseys are different and they're trying to get away from that with more hand drawn type logo. Problem is they hired a young person that only grew up drawing lame pokemon characters. I'm an artist so I can tell. The Best drawers and animators in general lived from the 40's to the 80's or worked in the field in that time. Early 90's was still very good too.

The jerseys they have now are the worst for the Sixers. Does it ever even say Sixers? Looks like they were trying to combine the 50's jerseys with the late 80's jerseys but it didn't work.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 02:24 PM
Warfelg, check out these jerseys http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/allen-iverson-of-the-philadelphia-76ers-attempts-a-layup-against-of-picture-id72965852

warfelg
07-30-2017, 02:36 PM
voted by who, You have to be careful what internet sites your reading from. If it's kids born around 2002. They never saw any of that and they grew up thinking Pokémon and sponge bob was cool. See I grew up in the 80's so we had actual artist draw cartoons then and we weren't dorks like those kids in the 2000's that think pokemon is cool. It's not even art at all. it's like 4 lines that are all straight and then they call it a character.

So you have to be careful of who is voting on that site.

https://static.mitchellandness.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/2/7226a_p76_97aiver_3b1_1.jpg

Here were the best jerseys in Sixers History. Best looking and what do you know they happened to have the some of the best years ever. Infact they haven't won a playoff game since like 09.

The picture I posted is a Replica a good Replica but a Game jersey will have more quality to it for sure especially during the 1990's. They put a lot of quality to it.

The Jerseys today are BORING and the NBA is trying to play off the Computer craze by just making many of the jerseys with plain letting and plain font with no real design or creativeness to it. They just get a basic computer to draw the logos today, Many of them at least. And the New TWolves Logo and jerseys are different and they're trying to get away from that with more hand drawn type logo. Problem is they hired a young person that only grew up drawing lame pokemon characters. I'm an artist so I can tell. The Best drawers and animators in general lived from the 40's to the 80's or worked in the field in that time. Early 90's was still very good too.

The jerseys they have now are the worst for the Sixers. Does it ever even say Sixers? Looks like they were trying to combine the 50's jerseys with the late 80's jerseys but it didn't work.

Fashion designers, writers, and player polls have all put the sixers jersey of that time as one of the worse of all time.

Yes one of the current Sixers jerseys says Sixers. The other two say Phila.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/sixers/uniforms/images/061815_unidetail-illustration_LG.jpg

But if you can't tell that with the big "PHILA" that it's the Sixers, you got bigger problems.

I mean are you telling me you don't know who this is because it only says the city:
http://nba.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2278000/ff_2278001_full.jpg&w=340

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 02:56 PM
Fashion designers, writers, and player polls have all put the sixers jersey of that time as one of the worse of all time.

Yes one of the current Sixers jerseys says Sixers. The other two say Phila.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/sixers/uniforms/images/061815_unidetail-illustration_LG.jpg

But if you can't tell that with the big "PHILA" that it's the Sixers, you got bigger problems.

I mean are you telling me you don't know who this is because it only says the city:
http://nba.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2278000/ff_2278001_full.jpg&w=340


I don't believe the poll nor does it make it true. I study art and the other jerseys take more creative to invent. Also a person has to actually draw it. The new ones or the ones from the 50's which are the same can be draw with any 2 bit computer. Also the colors are better and show better on tv, the Courts were better in the 90's as well with the darker wood, the darker more bold colors.

Saddletramp
07-30-2017, 02:58 PM
Hey, Marvin's back. Great.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 03:07 PM
Also I bet that stupid poll votes all 29 teams today as having better jerseys than in the 90's. Which makes them dumb and biased. I also have obseverd that when young kids missed out on the Golden Era they dont' like it then and try to over hyped the teams today.

I hate to break it to you but the Sixers will always be garbage. They dont' have an orgininal look. They're jerseys are just red white and blue just like the Bullets/Wizards. Also they look like the same jerseys from the 1960's. Go look it up kid. I know you younger than me. I'm 36 years old and been watching the NBA since 1989 live and I appreciate history and have watched all the games before then. The Best jerseys in the NBA were during the 90's. But they NBA saw a drop in jersey sells around 1999 so they didn't understand why so they started changing all the jerseys after that. It was really that kids just grew up and stopped buying jerseys. Kids my age back in the early 90's all had about 4-5 jersesys. Me for instance had a Red Jordan, a Barkley, a Larry Johnson, a Webber, and a Stockton.

But anyway, the sixers will be garbage next year too. They don't have a leader either. You have to have a leader or several leaders to win in the NBA and they don't have one. Embid is not a leader at all. Neither is faultz. faultz is just Derek rose 2.0 and will be out of the league basically or broken in about 3 years.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 03:13 PM
warfelg, if you can't say a jersey or logo that is better in the 90's than today then you're clearly biased and you're a prisoner of the moment. I'll let you have your opinion if you can name a team that has better Jerseys in the 90's and a better court design. Because just odds in life there would be atleast some better in the 90's. Everything is like 2 bit designs and the jerseys look cheap today. They also look like they try to go back to the 50's designs. Like the Warriors, Sixers, Bullets or wizards I should call them. etc etc.

warfelg
07-30-2017, 03:17 PM
lol So just because I like the clean classic look of modern jerseys I must be a kid right? GTFO with that ****.


Also learn how to spell Embiid and Fultz.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 03:26 PM
lol So just because I like the clean classic look of modern jerseys I must be a kid right? GTFO with that ****.


Also learn how to spell Embiid and Fultz.

You never watched the NBA during the 80's or 90's so your opinion on this doesn't really count.

Also you're biased because you only want to talk about your team the sixers. Why not talk about another team, oh but your knowledge or perceived knowledge ends at the sixers.

The NBA had a better look in the 90's but in the 2000's they tried to CLEAN up the image of the NBA with dress codes and more 50's type jerseys.

The PHILA was done many times kid in the 90's even on alternate Jerseys and it looked way better.

all the box font and all the jerseys looking the same is bad for the NBA today.

So you're mad now because you can't name one single team that had better jerseys, court, logo in the 90's. I clearly figured out you're just a biased prisoner of the moment with not taste or real opinion. They're studied kids like you.

FreedomofSpeech
07-30-2017, 03:27 PM
They're easier and cheaper to make that is why they make many of the jerseys like that now.

These were some of the best Sixers Jerseys ever if not the best https://d2gd8qsu8uml9u.cloudfront.net/uploads/AP_9910040907.jpg

A lot of other people think so too in polls or message boards all over the internet and in real life when you talk to real fans of the NBA that aren't biased and feel they have to disagree with someone just to disagree like you do.

warfelg
07-30-2017, 03:39 PM
You never watched the NBA during the 80's or 90's so your opinion on this doesn't really count.

Also you're biased because you only want to talk about your team the sixers. Why not talk about another team, oh but your knowledge or perceived knowledge ends at the sixers.

I can talk about many other teams, I did watch way back when. In fact, and some find this sacrilege, I was a Celtics fan before finding myself rooting for the Sixers because of AI.


I clearly figured out you're just a biased prisoner of the moment with not taste or real opinion.

Yup, I'm a biased prisoner of the moment when I mentioned upthread that I thought the Celtics, Lakers, Bulls had some of the best uniforms in the NBA. Mostly because they have stood the test of time with minimal changes to them. They have a very classic clean cut look. Miami also has very classy impressive uniforms with the instantly recognizable font and logo, no extra gimmics to it, has looked the same for a while with just some different touches. The Blazers too have a very clean and classy uniform.

About the only 90's jersey I really miss is the old Sonics, and that's more because it's wrong that there's no team in Seattle than anything else. But even that logo with the space needle is a trainwreck.

krazylegz
07-31-2017, 03:57 PM
wait,there only like 3 teams that have a shot at the title for the next 5 years and the nba wants MORE teams??...LLLLAAAAAMMMMEEEE

FlashBolt
07-31-2017, 04:55 PM
wait,there only like 3 teams that have a shot at the title for the next 5 years and the nba wants MORE teams??...LLLLAAAAAMMMMEEEE

NBA wants more money. Let's not forget, Adam Silver has to feed a family, too.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
08-02-2017, 09:56 AM
Read on twitter other day a owner mentioned expansion teams should have to pay a $2Billion buy in.

goingfor28
08-02-2017, 03:38 PM
No need for expansion... move the ****ing clippers.... no city should have 2 teams period!!!!!!!.... and I mean that for every sport... it's ****ing stupid!!!They're moving to Inglewood

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MILLERHIGHLIFE
09-10-2017, 11:42 AM
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/09/latest-on-seattles-quest-for-an-nba-franchise.html

JOSKOMANG4
09-10-2017, 12:34 PM
Would love the idea of adding 2 more teams and create 4-team divisions & 2 conferences.

During expansion: current teams are allowed to keep 8 players per team. If a player gets drafted, they acquire that player & their salary. If they do not get drafted, they go back with to current team w/salary in tact.

Due to salaries, I can see following players being cut: Noah, Asik, E.Turner, K.Bazemore, Al Horford, Deng, Biyombo, Valuncianus, T.Harris, R.Lopez, JR Smith, M.Williams. c.Zeller, C.Lee, A.Rivers, Leuer, Dudley, M.Leonard, S.Hill, W.Chandler. al Jefferson, Deledova, Koufus, Arthur, Alrich.

2 new teams: Seattle Supersonics & St Louis Spirits.

Realignment:

Northeast: Nets, Knicks, Sixers, Celtics
Atlantic coast: Hawks, Heat, Hornets, Magic
Mideast: Pelicans, Wizards , Grizzles, Pacers
Central: Raptors, Cavs, Bucks, Pistons

Northwest: warriors, kings, blazers, sonics
Pacific: Lakers, Suns, Clippers, Jazz
Southwest: Spurs, rockets, Mavs, St. Louis
Midwest: Bulls, Thunder, wolves, nuggets

MJNetsIsles
09-10-2017, 01:02 PM
No need for expansion... move the ****ing clippers.... no city should have 2 teams period!!!!!!!.... and I mean that for every sport... it's ****ing stupid!!!

New York has 2 teams in every sport.
You mad?

mrblisterdundee
09-10-2017, 04:54 PM
No need for expansion... move the ****ing clippers.... no city should have 2 teams period!!!!!!!.... and I mean that for every sport... it's ****ing stupid!!!

Los Angeles and New York are both the centers of wealthy 13 million metropolises. Of course they're going to have multiple teams.
If the less-than-likely event the Clippers were to leave Los Angeles, San Diego would be karmic. I think the locals would rally around any team coming out of Los Angeles, much less one they'd be taking back.
San Jose has an NHL stadium, a ton of tech money and the third-highest population in the state. It's right at the southern terminus of an 8 million metro area.

goingfor28
09-10-2017, 10:04 PM
New York has 2 teams in every sport.
You mad?So does LA

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