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natsbats
05-26-2017, 11:05 AM
His decisions will haunt us for a long time guys.

Bosston
05-26-2017, 11:20 AM
:yawn: this is a cool story... can you tell it again? perhaps with an ounce of substance proving your point?

The Allen
05-26-2017, 03:49 PM
Wait, I thought you were a Nationals fan?

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RedSoxtober
06-05-2017, 04:03 PM
When DD arrived, he came with a reputation for never losing a trade. "Never" might be a strong word but it seemed that his losses were so rare as to never happen. Maybe the real issue is that he never had sufficient pieces to be in position to lose a trade. natsbats certainly could have offered more by way of explanation but I think that this is at the heart of what was meant in the OP.


The outlook has been a bit different for the other Red Sox trade of the winter. Through Sunday, the Red Sox’ acquisition of righthander Tyler Thornburg had already looked terribly imbalanced in its first year.

While Thornburg hasn’t pitched, Travis Shaw has emerged as a potential All-Star third baseman for the Brewers, hitting .292/.339/.530 with 10 homers, 27 extra-base hits, and 40 RBIs. (Tyler Kepner of the New York Times recently talked with Shaw about why he’s flourishing in Milwaukee.)

The Red Sox, meanwhile, have endured the lowest OPS in the majors from their third basemen (.605) and defense that has bordered on horrendous at the position, save for when Deven Marrero has played there.

Yet the trade looked even worse given the inclusion of the Red Sox’ best middle infield prospect and an intriguing pitcher with a big arm. (Mauricio Dubon is hitting .294/.346/.383 with 25 steals for Milwaukee’s Double A affiliate. Hard-throwing righthander Josh Pennington hasn’t pitched this year following an elbow-chip cleanup in the offseason).

The deal became more imbalanced with news on Monday that Milwaukee would receive another highly regarded prospect, shortstop Yeison Coca, as the player to be named in the deal. Coca, an 18-year-old switch-hitter, posted a .307/.370/.409 line in the Dominican Summer League last year.

Evaluators considered him a potential everyday shortstop given his glove, speed, athleticism, bat-to-ball skills, and potential doubles power. After Dubon’s departure, I ranked Coca as the second-best shortstop prospect in the Red Sox system, behind only 2016 second-rounder C.J. Chatham.

In a farm system now short on players who project as potential everyday players, the departure of Coca thins the Red Sox’ inventory of either future depth or trade chips. (Other teams had shown interest in attempting to acquire Coca via trade.) He represents the continuation of the Red Sox’ willingness to deplete their supply of middle-of-the-field players who eventually would have given the team the greatest flexibility in plugging holes.

Thanks to a pair of four-for-one trades (with the White Sox for Sale and the Brewers for Thornburg), there is a good chance that the offseason of 2016-17 will come to represent an organizational turning point for the Red Sox. The team’s hope is that it is most remembered for the acquisition of Sale rather than the holes created by the eight young players who departed.Speier

natsbats
06-08-2017, 11:07 AM
It is honestly devastating. We were set up for a great long run even if a lot of the prospects didn't work out.

Now we are in a win now mode the next two-three years and after that......jeesh. When we should've had an elite wave of new talent coming up through the system.

Makes me absolutely sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bosston
06-08-2017, 12:46 PM
It is honestly devastating. We were set up for a great long run even if a lot of the prospects didn't work out.

Now we are in a win now mode the next two-three years and after that......jeesh. When we should've had an elite wave of new talent coming up through the system.

Makes me absolutely sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's sports... if you're devastated and sick over the trade of professional athletes who have no clue you're even alive you should rethink life...

natsbats
06-08-2017, 12:56 PM
This thread is about Dombrowski not about if sport fans take it too seriously.

redsox12
06-08-2017, 03:32 PM
Yeah, he really ruined us.....he only filled our biggest need in the offseason with the best option available.

RedSoxtober
06-09-2017, 10:05 PM
Yeah, he really ruined us.....he only filled our biggest need in the offseason with the best option available.

Should we assume that this is a reference to Sale? The Sale deal was a good one but I don't agree that that was our biggest need. Heading into the offseason Porcello, Price, Wright, Pomeranz, Rodriguez looked like a decent rotation. The biggest problem was probably the BP -- specifically someone to set up Kimbrel. Between this year's deal (Thornburg) and last year's (Smith), we're still waiting for the first complete inning pitched.