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HandsOnTheWheel
05-26-2017, 01:55 AM
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All games in EST


Game 1: Thursday, June 1: Cavaliers at Warriors, 9 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 2: Sunday, June 4: Cavaliers at Warriors, 8 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 3: Wednesday, June 7: Warriors at Cavaliers, 9 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 4: Friday, June 9: Warriors at Cavaliers, 9 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 5:* Monday, June 12: Cavaliers at Warriors, 9 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 6:* Thursday, June 15: Warriors at Cavaliers, 9 p.m. ET, ABC

Game 7:* Sunday, June 18: Cavaliers at Warriors, 8 p.m. ET, ABC



* If Necessary



Projected Starting Lineups:

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C: Zaza Pachulia/ PF: Draymond Green/ SF: Kevin Durant/ SG: Klay Thompson/ PG: Steph Curry


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Bench:



PF: David West/ SG: Shaun Livingston/ SF: Andre Iguodala/ C: Javale Mcgee/ PG: Patrick McCaw/ SG: Ian Clark


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Projected Starting Lineups:

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C: Tristan Thompson/ PF: Kevin Love/ SF: LeBron James/ SG: JR Smith/ PG: Kyrie Irving


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Bench:



SG: Iman Shumpert/ PF: Channing Frye/ SG: Kyle Korver/ SF: Richard Jefferson/ PG: Deron Williams


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Oracle Arena, Oakland

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Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland

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Credit to kdspurman.


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap:
FINALS!!!!!

FOXHOUND
05-26-2017, 01:59 AM
The time has finally come for a truly competitive playoff series... we hope!

LOb0
05-26-2017, 02:19 AM
Everything is telling me the Cavs suspect defense is finally going to undo them. I really think Warriors in 5.

I do have this issue with Mike Brown being the head coach on GS currently. Its almost unfathomable that he can complete a championship run.

Bostonjorge
05-26-2017, 02:54 AM
Durant dunks on James at least once.

I got Irving winning the matchup against Curry.

I got Durant slightly winning his matchup against James. The difference maker for Durant is Green.

As long as Durant and Green show up then GS got this. Even if Curry's and Klay shot is off. GS in 6.

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 04:08 AM
warriors in 5 or 6... Lebron will cover KD... Green will dominate love.... Kyrie and curry will be interesting... Klay will light them on fire and force bron off of durant and the house of cards will fall down.... If this was warriors/cavs 3 without durant I think it goes 7 and would be interesting.... I cant see any way the cavs win... Lebron would have to have the best finals ever while kyrie has the best finals ever and they did that last year and barely won... Now the warriors have KD... It makes me sick... It really does.

Scoots
05-26-2017, 07:57 AM
Totally meaningless stat:

Cavs have 5 players who have appeared in the all-star game a total of 25 times.
Warriors have 6 players who have appeared in the all-star game a total of 20 times.

bleedprple&gold
05-26-2017, 08:19 AM
I'm excited for the playoffs to finally start!

aman_13
05-26-2017, 08:33 AM
I'm excited for the playoffs to finally start!

Haha

It's a shame we have to wait a few days. Why so much time off? Let's get this going!

JLynn943
05-26-2017, 09:28 AM
While I'm definitely rooting for the Cavs, I fully expect the Warriors to win. I went with 5 games. That team is quite possibly the most stacked of all time. It'd be a miracle if Cleveland won.

archdevil84
05-26-2017, 09:41 AM
i voted cavs in 6 purely because thats what i hope is gonna happen. realistically i see the warriors winning in 5 maybe 6

BKLYNpigeon
05-26-2017, 10:26 AM
If the warriors win do the 3-1 jokes stop? Lol

aman_13
05-26-2017, 10:32 AM
If the warriors win do the 3-1 jokes stop? Lol

That's their motivation lol. It better stop.

BKLYNpigeon
05-26-2017, 10:34 AM
Cavs need to split the first 2 games in Golden State or else it's over.

WaDe03
05-26-2017, 11:03 AM
Cavs need to split the first 2 games in Golden State or else it's over.

But last year........

WaDe03
05-26-2017, 11:05 AM
Praying for no injuries. They literally ruined every round except the ECF since the Celtics were better without Thomas.

MygirlhatesCod
05-26-2017, 11:08 AM
im hopping this is the series Klay comes to play. if he finally gets on dubs in 5. cant say sweep because I cant imagine a cavs team getting swept with how LeBron is playing. the cavs gave an insane amount of open looks to all shooters in these playoffs (especially boston). they finally face a team that will make them pay for it.

Hawkeye15
05-26-2017, 11:09 AM
GS in 6.

If GS doesn't win this, it's an epic choke on their part, barring injuries. There should be a couple of games not even close.

SoulBrotha
05-26-2017, 11:11 AM
lol all the cavs gotta do is keep throwing bodies at KD. He'll eventually get worn out and they revert to old 3 chucking ways smh. Cavs in 6

lakerfan85
05-26-2017, 11:14 AM
Cavs shock the World and win in 6.. Lebron makes KD his *****..

ManRam
05-26-2017, 11:17 AM
Been waiting (more like not watching) all year for this. Very excited. Go Cavs!

The Warriors are the better team, but hopefully like last year that won't matter.

SteBO
05-26-2017, 11:32 AM
Been waiting (more like not watching) all year for this. Very excited. Go Cavs!

The Warriors are the better team, but hopefully like last year that won't matter.
Not that I disagree with anything you've said here, but don't you think it's both odd and hilarious that despite everything LBJ has been through in his career both good and bad, that he's now the lovable underdog?

Dude's far and away the best player in this series after all. To view him as the underdog will always feel weird to me.

Vee-Rex
05-26-2017, 11:37 AM
I think the Cavs are gonna shock the world.

I'm pretty sure they are entering the finals as the best offense in the history of the game with an Ortg of 120.7 and a TS% of 63.4. It's fluent and everyone knows their role. 3rd best defense in the playoffs.

I've never seen a Cavs team this good. Warriors added Kevin Durant - Cavs added Kevin Love + Korver + D-Will + an LBJ with a jumper and 3-point shot. And Lue knows what he's doing when it comes to adjustments.

This will be a closer series than people seem to think.

BKLYNpigeon
05-26-2017, 11:37 AM
But last year........

Well minus injuries and suspensions.

tredigs
05-26-2017, 11:40 AM
Not that I disagree with anything you've said here, but don't you think it's both odd and hilarious that despite everything LBJ has been through in his career both good and bad, that he's now the lovable underdog?

Dude's far and away the best player in this series after all. To view him as the underdog will always feel weird to me.

Prime LeBron and The All Stars: A Tale of the Underdog


It's hilarious. Specifically as defending champs. A true David V Goliath amirite

Htownballa1622
05-26-2017, 11:52 AM
I don't see the Warriors losing.

BUT, if they do.....oh boy. :smoking:

I will be here for sure.

Go LeBron!

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 11:58 AM
Cavs shock the World and win in 6.. Lebron makes KD his *****..

:( :puke:

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 12:00 PM
Hope the Warriors curb stomp the Cavs! I want to see Lebron cry!

Htownballa1622
05-26-2017, 12:03 PM
Hope the Warriors curb stomp the Cavs! I want to see Lebron cry!

He cried last year. Did you not enjoy it? ;)

744723642697777152

MygirlhatesCod
05-26-2017, 12:05 PM
Hope the Warriors curb stomp the Cavs! I want to see Lebron cry!

this legit made me smile thinking about it.

mightybosstone
05-26-2017, 12:07 PM
My heart wants Cleveland in 7. My head thinks it's Golden State in 6.

Game 1 will be very interesting. Because these teams have played in completely different conferences and this Cleveland team has been so Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with its regular season and postseason play, it's really hard to tell how far apart these teams are from a talent standpoint. But if anyone can win some games against the Warriors, it's this Cleveland team peaking at the right time.

If Lebron can put together a full series of play like he's provided all postseason long (minus that one dud against Boston) and Kyrie plays like he did against the Warriors last season, I'd give the Cavs a puncher's chance. But Golden State is rightfully the heavy favorite in this series, and them losing would be a pretty monumental upset in my book.

mightybosstone
05-26-2017, 12:08 PM
Hope the Warriors curb stomp the Cavs! I want to see Lebron cry!

Wow man. That's intense. What exactly did he do to you to warrant that level of hatred?

SteBO
05-26-2017, 12:11 PM
Wow man. That's intense. What exactly did he do to you to warrant that level of hatred?
Lakers/Kobe fan....

Scoots
05-26-2017, 12:12 PM
If the warriors win do the 3-1 jokes stop? Lol

Never

Htownballa1622
05-26-2017, 12:16 PM
Never

I honestly disagree. I think it would be played out.

Winning this year is what they need. It's actually expected. Losing this year is worse than blowing the 3-1 lead imo.

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 12:16 PM
He cried last year. Did you not enjoy it? ;)

744723642697777152

Lololol I'm going to enjoy watching his tears of pain, sadness and agony!

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 12:19 PM
Lakers/Kobe fan....

Love me Kobe but Lakers are #1 not Kobe. It's a lot more than just Kobe vs Bron for me. I won't go into full detail but it is what it is!

MygirlhatesCod
05-26-2017, 12:22 PM
I honestly disagree. I think it would be played out.

Winning this year is what they need. It's actually expected. Losing this year is worse than blowing the 3-1 lead imo.

very true. there is no way the dubs would live this L down.

tredigs
05-26-2017, 12:23 PM
I think the Cavs are gonna shock the world.

I'm pretty sure they are entering the finals as the best offense in the history of the game with an Ortg of 120.7 and a TS% of 63.4. It's fluent and everyone knows their role. 3rd best defense in the playoffs.

I've never seen a Cavs team this good. Warriors added Kevin Durant - Cavs added Kevin Love + Korver + D-Will + an LBJ with a jumper and 3-point shot. And Lue knows what he's doing when it comes to adjustments.

This will be a closer series than people seem to think.

#1) Consider the defenses they played (none of them top 10. Almost impossible en route to a Finals)
#2) Consider how many minutes Cavs starters played relative to say the Warriors (and the subsequent team stats that this effects). Warriors net rating in the playoffs the best of all time thus far despite that.
#3) Consider that the Cavs defense is still highly questionable, and that they are going against at worst the 2nd best offense and 2nd best offense (likely best of both).

I think it could go 6, but I also think the Cavs are due for a couple blowouts given the defense I have seen them play and the level that GS is firing at. The Cavs winning the series would in fact be shocking with both of these squads at 100%. That said, there are no excuses. Very excited to see a healthy series between these two (at least to start).

Htownballa1622
05-26-2017, 12:24 PM
Lololol I'm going to enjoy watching his tears of pain, sadness and agony!

:D

"All the people that were rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. So they can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal. But they got to get back to the real world at some point."

Scoots
05-26-2017, 12:34 PM
GS in 6.

If GS doesn't win this, it's an epic choke on their part, barring injuries. There should be a couple of games not even close.

The Warriors are not talking about it at all and I have the feeling they may come out and try to destroy the Cavs. LeBron is just too good, and Kyrie is good enough to take some games though.

If the officials don't allow physical play it could be pretty fun both ways.

Scoots
05-26-2017, 12:35 PM
I honestly disagree. I think it would be played out.

Winning this year is what they need. It's actually expected. Losing this year is worse than blowing the 3-1 lead imo.

Buffalo Bills fans still hear "wide right" ... stuff like that never really goes away.

tredigs
05-26-2017, 12:39 PM
Buffalo Bills fans still hear "wide right" ... stuff like that never really goes away.

Lol, well in this hypothetical Bills fans could not respond to those Giants fans with "2-1" after beating them twice in the Super Bowl. Hell they could not respond to anyone about anything. Winning puts the clamp down on hate (justified or otherwise).

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 12:50 PM
:D

"All the people that were rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. So they can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal. But they got to get back to the real world at some point."

Lol old! Plus I love my life so no sweat of my HTownBalls!

cmellofan15
05-26-2017, 01:04 PM
Totally meaningless stat:

Cavs have 5 players who have appeared in the all-star game a total of 25 times.
Warriors have 6 players who have appeared in the all-star game a total of 20 times.

pretty nuts but Lebron accounts for over half of those all star appearances.


Prime LeBron and The All Stars: A Tale of the Underdog


It's hilarious. Specifically as defending champs. A true David V Goliath amirite

are you implying that they aren't the underdog? They're playing against the last two reigning mvps and what looks to be the upcoming defensive player of the year. a team that set a record for most games won in a three year span---the same team that was favored to beat them the past two years in the finals.

ManRam
05-26-2017, 01:09 PM
Not that I disagree with anything you've said here, but don't you think it's both odd and hilarious that despite everything LBJ has been through in his career both good and bad, that he's now the lovable underdog?

Dude's far and away the best player in this series after all. To view him as the underdog will always feel weird to me.

Hey, I'm not gonna complain if he's now lovable! And, it's worth mentioning that LeBron has been an underdog in 6 of his 8 trips to The Finals. Was favored against the Mavs (L) and Spurs (W) and that's at. The only time the Cavs have been bigger underdogs is in 2007, when the Spurs rightfully were an absurd +360 favorite.

Golden State is a historically great team and seemingly an easier team to dislike. Lovable Underdog LeBron...I like it.

tredigs
05-26-2017, 01:09 PM
pretty nuts but Lebron accounts for over half of those all star appearances.



are you implying that they aren't the underdog? They're playing against the last two reigning mvps and what looks to be the upcoming defensive player of the year. a team that set a record for most games won in a three year span---the same team that was favored to beat them the past two years in the finals.

They are an underdog to the Warriors - correct - but they are no classic "underdog story". This team holds by far the most talent in their conference, and just wiped the floor with said conference after not even trying particularly hard all season. The Warriors - they at least put out the effort every night. It's just funny watching neutral fans all clamor for LBJ and the All Stars who just mowed down every team as some cute Cinderella story. Here's hoping Golden State smashes their glass slippers.

Vee-Rex
05-26-2017, 01:10 PM
#1) Consider the defenses they played (none of them top 10. Almost impossible en route to a Finals)
#2) Consider how many minutes Cavs starters played relative to say the Warriors (and the subsequent team stats that this effects). Warriors net rating in the playoffs the best of all time thus far despite that.
#3) Consider that the Cavs defense is still highly questionable, and that they are going against at worst the 2nd best offense and 2nd best offense (likely best of both).

I think it could go 6, but I also think the Cavs are due for a couple blowouts given the defense I have seen them play and the level that GS is firing at. The Cavs winning the series would in fact be shocking with both of these squads at 100%. That said, there are no excuses. Very excited to see a healthy series between these two (at least to start).

Yep, definitely considered... I have no retort to that. Just as I have no retort for people saying the Warriors will win.

I do think the Cavs often play up and down to our competition and it has mislead a lot of people. I think the Cavs offense is more explosive, even during stretches when teams like Boston or Toronto were playing 100% perfect defense (Indiana's defense wasn't good). If our starters had played the full game we could've put up 150 in Boston in game 5, and truthfully that wasn't even like a record-breaking type of offensive game like we've had in the past.

I don't praise GS too often, not because I don't recognize what they are, but because they always receive that recognition. It goes without saying that they're the juggernaut in the NBA and are incredible on both sides of the floor. Vegas gives them overwhelming odds, ESPN BPI gave 'em a 94% chance to win. I mean, there's nothing I can really add to it.

And I just have a feeling... something's not the same with this Cavs team (compared to the majority opinion of them). I suspect this isn't an ordinary high-powered offense and I suspect this defense will dig deep and become respectable against adversity. At the same time, I tip my hat to Warriors in 5 predictions because the opponent isn't ordinary in no way, shape, or form.

I think we're in for a fun series.

tredigs
05-26-2017, 01:20 PM
Yep, definitely considered... I have no retort to that. Just as I have no retort for people saying the Warriors will win.

I do think the Cavs often play up and down to our competition and it has mislead a lot of people. I think the Cavs offense is more explosive, even during stretches when teams like Boston or Toronto were playing 100% perfect defense (Indiana's defense wasn't good). If our starters had played the full game we could've put up 150 in Boston in game 5, and truthfully that wasn't even like a record-breaking type of offensive game like we've had in the past.

I don't praise GS too often, not because I don't recognize what they are, but because they always receive that recognition. It goes without saying that they're the juggernaut in the NBA and are incredible on both sides of the floor. Vegas gives them overwhelming odds, ESPN BPI gave 'em a 94% chance to win. I mean, there's nothing I can really add to it.

And I just have a feeling... something's not the same with this Cavs team (compared to the majority opinion of them). I suspect this isn't an ordinary high-powered offense and I suspect this defense will dig deep and become respectable against adversity. At the same time, I tip my hat to Warriors in 5 predictions because the opponent isn't ordinary in no way, shape, or form.

I think we're in for a fun series.

I think we're in for a fun one also, consider that LBJ just put up a 64.5% TS and that was the worst of their big 3. FFS it was the worst TS of their top 6 scorers in the series. K Love had a 69% TS and Kyrie/TT/JR were all north of 70%. Kyrie's was a >60/50/90 lol... that's insane. They laid waste. We'll just see what happens. Again, glad everyone is going in healthy and rested so we won't have to hear anything confused for excuses from myself or anyone else.

nastynice
05-26-2017, 01:33 PM
Finally here.

Out for revenge. Ice cold revenge :burn:

DanG
05-26-2017, 03:12 PM
2013 SAS vs MIA = 2016 GSW vs CLE

2014 SAS vs MIA = 2017 GSW vs CLE

Warriors in 5.

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 03:13 PM
warriors in 5 or 6... Lebron will cover KD... Green will dominate love.... Kyrie and curry will be interesting... Klay will light them on fire and force bron off of durant and the house of cards will fall down.... If this was warriors/cavs 3 without durant I think it goes 7 and would be interesting.... I cant see any way the cavs win... Lebron would have to have the best finals ever while kyrie has the best finals ever and they did that last year and barely won... Now the warriors have KD... It makes me sick... It really does.

I feel like you do this every time to try and make it seem LeBron is going through impossible odds. Cavs have a chance. They have a veteran squad with great bench pieces. That's going to be key for them. didn't you also say Toronto and Boston would beat the cavs or something? C'mon, man. stop it. If LeBron loses, you'll say: "I told you they had no chance." If LeBron wins, you'll say: "HE DID THE GREATEST THING EVER. OMG HE'S THE BEST." No excuses this time around. Cavs have a chance to win this but it comes down to LeBron+Kyrie taking their game to the next level. LeBron has to be as good as he was in Toronto if they are to beat the Warriors.

nastynice
05-26-2017, 03:15 PM
I feel like you do this every time to try and make it seem LeBron is going through impossible odds. Cavs have a chance. They have a veteran squad with great bench pieces. That's going to be key for them. didn't you also say Toronto and Boston would beat the cavs or something? C'mon, man. stop it. If LeBron loses, you'll say: "I told you they had no chance." If LeBron wins, you'll say: "HE DID THE GREATEST THING EVER. OMG HE'S THE BEST." No excuses this time around. Cavs have a chance to win this but it comes down to LeBron+Kyrie taking their game to the next level. LeBron has to be as good as he was in Toronto if they are to beat the Warriors.

Wtf?? Who hacked flashbolts account!

still1ballin
05-26-2017, 03:29 PM
lol, please

Vee-Rex
05-26-2017, 03:29 PM
Wtf?? Who hacked flashbolts account!

Flash keeps it real, brah

MTM is just a fanboy

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 03:30 PM
I think what's amazing is this:

LeBron has to play Godly for the Cavs to win.
KD has to play his average game for the Warriors to win. He might not even have to play his average game. A 25/6/5 would be enough. LeBron has to put up 35/9/9 if the Cavs want to get there. That's the magnitude of this game. But I gave the Cavs a chance because LeBron CAN do that. It's just a matter of will he. The one thing LeBron can't do regardless of result is play bad. If he can at least hold his own, no one can blame him for losing against what is obviously a stacked team. Oh, and if Kevin Love shows up and outplays Draymond, Cavs 100% win. Too bad he won't..

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 03:34 PM
I'm praying TT has an amazing series. He's also key. Everyone's key in such a matchup but man, if TT can dominate the boards and play hard solid defense, he can easily establish himself as a top five center IMO. Too underrated. Can't find a player who does what he does in any era.

Scoots
05-26-2017, 03:37 PM
I think we're in for a fun one also, consider that LBJ just put up a 64.5% TS and that was the worst of their big 3. FFS it was the worst TS of their top 6 scorers in the series. K Love had a 69% TS and Kyrie/TT/JR were all north of 70%. Kyrie's was a >60/50/90 lol... that's insane. They laid waste. We'll just see what happens. Again, glad everyone is going in healthy and rested so we won't have to hear anything confused for excuses from myself or anyone else.

Imagine Jaws music ... Zaza ... Zaza ... Zaza :)

Scoots
05-26-2017, 03:41 PM
I'm praying TT has an amazing series. He's also key. Everyone's key in such a matchup but man, if TT can dominate the boards and play hard solid defense, he can easily establish himself as a top five center IMO. Too underrated. Can't find a player who does what he does in any era.

He is yet another X factor in this series. He's quicker than any Warriors big. At least the Warriors have a lot of bodies and looks they can throw at him in Zaza, West, McGee, Green, KD, and even McAdoo and Jones if it comes down to it. The Warriors have to keep turnovers down and defensive rebounding up.

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 03:43 PM
He is yet another X factor in this series. He's quicker than any Warriors big. At least the Warriors have a lot of bodies and looks they can throw at him in Zaza, West, McGee, Green, KD, and even McAdoo and Jones if it comes down to it. The Warriors have to keep turnovers down and defensive rebounding up.

Zaza and McGee are going to have to watch their fouling because that will be a problem for them. Those two guys might not be the best but they're your biggest players. TT will eat up any small-ball lineup you guys play and if Love can play half as good as he did against the Celtics, Draymond will have his hands full. TT can also cover the perimeter and smaller guards so it's not like he's going to get drowned by small-ball. Warriors have the ultimate starters but Cavs have the better bench.

nastynice
05-26-2017, 03:46 PM
Flash keeps it real, brah

MTM is just a fanboy

If by keeping it real you mean whine about the same **** over and over and over, then yea, def keepin it real

lol. Sry flash, ya own boy's setting you up!

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 03:50 PM
If by keeping it real you mean whine about the same **** over and over and over, then yea, def keepin it real

lol. Sry flash, ya own boy's setting you up!

No, I think he meant I keep it real regardless of what anyone says while you just troll. And IDK why PSD removed you from my ignore list but I find it funny you still mention me like an ex-gf (or bf, you sound like one of those people). Back to the ignore list you go.

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 04:03 PM
No, I think he meant I keep it real regardless of what anyone says while you just troll. And IDK why PSD removed you from my ignore list but I find it funny you still mention me like an ex-gf (or bf, you sound like one of those people). Back to the ignore list you go.

So mature.

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 04:04 PM
Wtf?? Who hacked flashbolts account!

he is just mad at me because i shut him down in the other thread and people were laughing at his opinions :shrug:

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 04:07 PM
The day you shut anyone down will be the day human life ends.

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 04:08 PM
So mature.

I mean, I would be mad at me too if I had to read about how Kobe isn't better than LeBron and then know it's the truth.

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 04:08 PM
I feel like you do this every time to try and make it seem LeBron is going through impossible odds. Cavs have a chance. They have a veteran squad with great bench pieces. That's going to be key for them. didn't you also say Toronto and Boston would beat the cavs or something? C'mon, man. stop it. If LeBron loses, you'll say: "I told you they had no chance." If LeBron wins, you'll say: "HE DID THE GREATEST THING EVER. OMG HE'S THE BEST." No excuses this time around. Cavs have a chance to win this but it comes down to LeBron+Kyrie taking their game to the next level. LeBron has to be as good as he was in Toronto if they are to beat the Warriors.

nope its just logic and weight to back it up... korver wont help much this series... love needs to be way better than last year but this is a tough team for him... cavs won in 7 with a ton of help last year without KD on the other side and barnes missing 90 shots... warriors arent going to screw around this year either... cavs win against every other team.... I JUST USE LOGIC and base my opinions off of the facts and the home work i do instead of just saying something dumb....................... You should try this approach.

http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2017/05/2017_nba_finals_golden_state_warriors_strong_favor ite_over_cleveland_cavaliers.html


Oh yea... remember how horrid the defense was as well? It got better in the playoffs against the East... Warriors arent the east... pick apart my points... I will wait.... I will also ask a question... If bron has a mediocre night in any game do they win that game? If Durant/Curry etc have bad nights do the warriors win? Exactly

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 04:14 PM
nope its just logic and weight to back it up... korver wont help much this series... love needs to be way better than last year but this is a tough team for him... cavs won in 7 with a ton of help last year without KD on the other side and barnes missing 90 shots... warriors arent going to screw around this year either... cavs win against every other team.... I JUST USE LOGIC and base my opinions off of the facts and the home work i do instead of just saying something dumb....................... You should try this approach.

http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2017/05/2017_nba_finals_golden_state_warriors_strong_favor ite_over_cleveland_cavaliers.html


Oh yea... remember how horrid the defense was as well? It got better in the playoffs against the East... Warriors arent the east... pick apart my points... I will wait.... I will also ask a question... If bron has a mediocre night in any game do they win that game? If Durant/Curry etc have bad nights do the warriors win? Exactly

1) Never said Korver will help but he's better than any bench player Warriors have outside of maybe Iggy. MAYBE.
2) I already said it: Love will have to play better if Cavs want to win. But that doesn't mean they need Love to be the best player or something. They just need him to rebound and hit his open shots. Defense is whatever. Warriors will score regardless but Cavs need to have an answer for it.
3) Yes, Cavs won in 7 but it's a new season. Like, Heat beat Spurs in 2013. What happened in 2014? Heat got destroyed. Different year. From what I've seen, Cavs can beat the Warriors. Warriors bench didn't get better at all and their rim protection is still lacking.
4) Not sure what you mean by Warriors not screwing around. What does that even mean? That every team not named the Warriors screw around? Popovich and the Spurs screw around? LMAO. Game 1 vs the Spurs, Warriors were down 20. Spurs had a chance. But you're telling me LeBron and the Cavs will lose in five based on what exactly?
5) No, you don't use logic. You said the Celtics and Toronto Raptors would beat the Cavs, too. You're trying to use a psychological approach to downgrade the Cavs while boosting their opponents so you can further convince yourself and others that the Cavs just did the impossible.

You should try using actual basketball discussions instead of your opinions. Maybe then you would have caught on that Embiid is an injury prone player who should be traded before his value plummets even more.

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 04:16 PM
I mean, I would be mad at me too if I had to read about how Kobe isn't better than LeBron and then know it's the truth.

Wait Lebron has more rings than the Lakers?


I'm a Laker fan, and Kobe fan but it's Lakers 100% not too sure why people get caught up in all that.

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 04:19 PM
Wait Lebron has more rings than the Lakers?


I'm a Laker fan, and Kobe fan but it's Lakers 100% not too sure why people get caught up in all that.

No one knows what you are. And quite frankly, they don't care either.

aman_13
05-26-2017, 04:21 PM
Nick Wright has lost his mind.

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 04:29 PM
Nick Wright has lost his mind.

Yeah, he's terrible but it's part of his act. He knows he draws controversy and right now, it's needed more than ever. Just look at Lavar Ball. He has no mind but he's getting ratings everywhere.

nastynice
05-26-2017, 04:42 PM
No, I think he meant I keep it real regardless of what anyone says while you just troll. And IDK why PSD removed you from my ignore list but I find it funny you still mention me like an ex-gf (or bf, you sound like one of those people). Back to the ignore list you go.

Maybe I am one of those people, is there a problem with that?

And ur the one saying I'm on ignore yet you responding to me. I'm not the one having trouble letting it go..

nastynice
05-26-2017, 04:43 PM
Wait Lebron has more rings than the Lakers?


I'm a Laker fan, and Kobe fan but it's Lakers 100% not too sure why people get caught up in all that.

I hear you. Everyone's like Durant this, Curry that..whatever, I just want chips, could give a damn where either of these players end up in imaginary rankings

aman_13
05-26-2017, 04:46 PM
Yeah, he's terrible but it's part of his act. He knows he draws controversy and right now, it's needed more than ever. Just look at Lavar Ball. He has no mind but he's getting ratings everywhere.

Yeah and i think he has a new show now. It makes sense but I can't believe he came on national tv today to tell us that LeBron has already surpassed Jordan. He has lost all credibility when it comes to anything pertaining to LeBron.

Then he goes on the Herd and says Cavs in 5.

GREATNESS ONE
05-26-2017, 04:47 PM
I hear you. Everyone's like Durant this, Curry that..whatever, I just want chips, could give a damn where either of these players end up in imaginary rankings

Exactly! :hi5:

nastynice
05-26-2017, 04:53 PM
Yeah and i think he has a new show now. It makes sense but I can't believe he came on national tv today to tell us that LeBron has already surpassed Jordan. He has lost all credibility when it comes to anything pertaining to LeBron.

Then he goes on the Herd and says Cavs in 5.

I think lebron past Jordan is a fair argument. It really comes down to what you're looking for. To me, he is already in that Jordan/shaq category. You don't choose one over the other in an imaginary all time draft because ones better than the other, you choose one over the other based on what ur looking for. I could see people choosing lebron. Especially given a scenario in which he is drafted to an actual well constructed team

jason
05-26-2017, 06:01 PM
Warriors in 5.

Go Warriors!

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 06:10 PM
1) Never said Korver will help but he's better than any bench player Warriors have outside of maybe Iggy. MAYBE.
2) I already said it: Love will have to play better if Cavs want to win. But that doesn't mean they need Love to be the best player or something. They just need him to rebound and hit his open shots. Defense is whatever. Warriors will score regardless but Cavs need to have an answer for it.
3) Yes, Cavs won in 7 but it's a new season. Like, Heat beat Spurs in 2013. What happened in 2014? Heat got destroyed. Different year. From what I've seen, Cavs can beat the Warriors. Warriors bench didn't get better at all and their rim protection is still lacking.
4) Not sure what you mean by Warriors not screwing around. What does that even mean? That every team not named the Warriors screw around? Popovich and the Spurs screw around? LMAO. Game 1 vs the Spurs, Warriors were down 20. Spurs had a chance. But you're telling me LeBron and the Cavs will lose in five based on what exactly?
5) No, you don't use logic. You said the Celtics and Toronto Raptors would beat the Cavs, too. You're trying to use a psychological approach to downgrade the Cavs while boosting their opponents so you can further convince yourself and others that the Cavs just did the impossible.

You should try using actual basketball discussions instead of your opinions. Maybe then you would have caught on that Embiid is an injury prone player who should be traded before his value plummets even more.

Logic would dictate that the celtics/raptors could beat the cavs.. I said could not would... Logic said they could when everyone and their mother gave up on the cavs how they finished the regular season.

Literally the cavs are massive underdogs everywhere... EVERYWHERE... Stop being dumb and throwing a temper tantrum because you cant sit at the big kids table in a discussion.

Also I said I was wrong about the raptors and have loved them for 2 plus years and thought they would take the next step... I said WITHOUT IT the celtics could push the cavs.. Go see that thread kiddo because I was right

Lol your embiid attacks in every post towards me is hilarious and adorable... it also shows your lack of basketball knowledge in a discussion time and time again... What my opinion has no weight and i cant back up facts? well guess what embiid is stupid and injured so HA.

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 06:21 PM
I dont understand how last year has no bearing on this year... The warriors didnt go out and get someone that didnt fit like the heat were forced to do with the big 3... the warriors went out and got a massive upgrade for barnes who literally shot the warriors out of a championship last year.... Now factor in all that went wrong for the warriors and the cavs being the first team to come back 1-3..... Now lets factor in how curry/klay sat there and watched the cavs celebrate so they could have a chip on their shoulder.... Now factor in how Dray has calmed down some and is not nearly the out of control moron he was last post season.....

Yet we are suppose to believe the cavs have a chance because of lebron? Lebron is amazing... Lebron will have a massive series... Kyrie needs to mimic what he did last year and he has been far from that this year and now he is going up against the best team ever.... Love will have to actually bring something.... I dont see it... I didnt see it last year and the cavs shouldnt have won... Why is this so hard to understand.


Now factor in the warriors are undefeated... un ****ing defeated out west....... Now factor in how putrid the cavs defense was all year........ Yet None of this matters and I am simply pumping up lebron... Like I said flash is puter mad right now.


Nobody anywhere would bet on the cavs in this series if their life was on it... Nor would they bet it going 7... the warriors are the best ****ing team ever...... accept it.

I feel bad for the other superstars... lebron/jordan/kobe are lucky they didnt have to face this warriors team over a 10 year span or they would be without championships.... What weakness does the warriors have? Everyone thought it would be in the paint but draymond put his dick on everyones head... I ****ing hate the warriors but lets stop kidding ourselves.


Tredigs already has his victory celebration set in stone while lolphilllies has his thread ideas saved

IKnowHoops
05-26-2017, 06:45 PM
Wtf?? Who hacked flashbolts account!

Lol

IKnowHoops
05-26-2017, 06:49 PM
Imagine Jaws music ... Zaza ... Zaza ... Zaza :)

Lol

aman_13
05-26-2017, 07:06 PM
I think lebron past Jordan is a fair argument. It really comes down to what you're looking for. To me, he is already in that Jordan/shaq category. You don't choose one over the other in an imaginary all time draft because ones better than the other, you choose one over the other based on what ur looking for. I could see people choosing lebron. Especially given a scenario in which he is drafted to an actual well constructed team

Well then we are not ranking players. It becomes a completely different conversation.

Scoots
05-26-2017, 08:24 PM
Zaza and McGee are going to have to watch their fouling because that will be a problem for them. Those two guys might not be the best but they're your biggest players. TT will eat up any small-ball lineup you guys play and if Love can play half as good as he did against the Celtics, Draymond will have his hands full. TT can also cover the perimeter and smaller guards so it's not like he's going to get drowned by small-ball. Warriors have the ultimate starters but Cavs have the better bench.

I like the Warriors bench, Iguodala, Livingston, West, McGee, McCaw, Clark ... they all play defense too.

Scoots
05-26-2017, 08:32 PM
Flash, you can choose to not respond to them.

nastynice
05-26-2017, 09:11 PM
..... Now lets factor in how curry/klay sat there and watched the cavs celebrate so they could have a chip on their shoulder....


Bro chillll with that. That info is for members only ;) (Iggy stayed out too)

The other members only info? That boy Curry and that boy KD been learning how to pick their spots in the third and fourth. I'm as mesmerized as anyone else by Lebron's greatness, but I'm ****in hungry this year. Cali, we just too ****in hungry :nod:

nastynice
05-26-2017, 09:21 PM
Well then we are not ranking players. It becomes a completely different conversation.

I dont know what we're doing, but I basically see it as tiers. You kinda got tiers to the ****, little clusters where you know a certain number of players could fit in kinda any order, dealers choice.

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 09:33 PM
Flash, you can choose to not respond to them.

he can also choose to back up his opinions with any type of weight and stop baiting with embiid ******** but we both know he is who he is. I love it though... makes the nba area fun as **** lol

More-Than-Most
05-26-2017, 09:36 PM
Bro chillll with that. That info is for members only ;) (Iggy stayed out too)

The other members only info? That boy Curry and that boy KD been learning how to pick their spots in the third and fourth. I'm as mesmerized as anyone else by Lebron's greatness, but I'm ****in hungry this year. Cali, we just too ****in hungry :nod:

its insane honestly... so now as well korver is better than everyone on the warriors bench not named iggy? lmfao... gtfo... korver is one of my favorite players ever but his defense is going to force him to be glued to the bench all series... Imagine Kevin love in the middle with korver on the outside... curry/klay/durant will have a field day. I love korver just not against this warriors team... for him to have value this series he will need to be on fire which is possible i guess but me I am taking Iggy/livingston over him without question... i really really wish they would have used frye more and think that will hurt the cavs as well.

eDush
05-26-2017, 09:51 PM
Everything is telling me the Cavs suspect defense is finally going to undo them. I really think Warriors in 5.

I do have this issue with Mike Brown being the head coach on GS currently. Its almost unfathomable that he can complete a championship run.I don't and i hope he will succeed Kerr as the HC if isn't able to coach anymore due to his back (I hope it doesn't come to that but if it does...).

Mike Brown is my kinda coach because he has the players back and would never back stab them ever. I'm sure he'd learn that from Pop :nod: and not Pat :no:

tredigs
05-26-2017, 10:16 PM
Will we ever see an assortment of talent this star studded ever/healthy again in NBA history? Have we ever before? My guess is no. Worth considering.

Bostonjorge
05-26-2017, 10:20 PM
James has to be seeing the his basketball life flash before his eyes. Durant and Green going to make James quit.

Saddletramp
05-26-2017, 10:20 PM
Now lets factor in how curry/klay sat there and watched the cavs celebrate so they could have a chip on their shoulder.... Now factor in how Dray has calmed down some and is not nearly the out of control moron he was last post season.....

I'm sure he stewed plenty but Klay practically ran off the court, he didn't sit there and watch the Cavs celebrate or even congratulate them (IIRC). Curry definitely did (as well as s few others). Totally respected it and said so at the time.

And it's funny how last year Green couldn't control those flails; they were his natural movements. This year, though they're mostly under control. So that was bs last year or he taught himself how not to kick people in the balls and in the ****ing head.

WITZ
05-26-2017, 10:25 PM
If Kawhi and company were Sh**ing on the Warriors i see no reason why the Cavs Offense cant do worse.

tredigs
05-26-2017, 10:25 PM
I'm sure he stewed plenty but Klay practically ran off the court, he didn't sit there and watch the Cavs celebrate or even congratulate them (IIRC). Curry definitely did (as well as s few others). Totally respected it and said so at the time.

And it's funny how last year Green couldn't control those flails; they were his natural movements. This year, though they're mostly under control. So that was bs last year or he taught himself how not to kick people in the balls and in the ****ing head.
There's been about 4 separate dedicated threads this season of different events concerning Green's dubious kicks this season. More than I can ever recall. But welcome to PSD. You're in for a treat.

FOXHOUND
05-26-2017, 10:40 PM
They are an underdog to the Warriors - correct - but they are no classic "underdog story". This team holds by far the most talent in their conference, and just wiped the floor with said conference after not even trying particularly hard all season. The Warriors - they at least put out the effort every night. It's just funny watching neutral fans all clamor for LBJ and the All Stars who just mowed down every team as some cute Cinderella story. Here's hoping Golden State smashes their glass slippers.

Correct. The true underdog story that had a chance to win a title was the Spurs.

FOXHOUND
05-26-2017, 10:45 PM
Yep, definitely considered... I have no retort to that. Just as I have no retort for people saying the Warriors will win.

I do think the Cavs often play up and down to our competition and it has mislead a lot of people. I think the Cavs offense is more explosive, even during stretches when teams like Boston or Toronto were playing 100% perfect defense (Indiana's defense wasn't good). If our starters had played the full game we could've put up 150 in Boston in game 5, and truthfully that wasn't even like a record-breaking type of offensive game like we've had in the past.

I don't praise GS too often, not because I don't recognize what they are, but because they always receive that recognition. It goes without saying that they're the juggernaut in the NBA and are incredible on both sides of the floor. Vegas gives them overwhelming odds, ESPN BPI gave 'em a 94% chance to win. I mean, there's nothing I can really add to it.

And I just have a feeling... something's not the same with this Cavs team (compared to the majority opinion of them). I suspect this isn't an ordinary high-powered offense and I suspect this defense will dig deep and become respectable against adversity. At the same time, I tip my hat to Warriors in 5 predictions because the opponent isn't ordinary in no way, shape, or form.

I think we're in for a fun series.

Lakers vs Celtics, 1985.

That's how I'm viewing this series lol. I really hope so, this can be a great Finals.

Saddletramp
05-26-2017, 11:16 PM
There's been about 4 separate dedicated threads this season of different events concerning Green's dubious kicks this season. More than I can ever recall. But welcome to PSD. You're in for a treat.

Oh, I remember him kicking Blake in the head during a loose ball and him nut kicking someone else this year. Don't remember many more, though. Links to these threads, please.

My point is, after they lost (one could argue that his suspension was a reason), he's toned it down this year. He was out of control last year and a goddamn maniac in the postseason. This year? I haven't seen it as much. But it was his natural movements they said. He couldn't help it, they said.

FlashBolt
05-26-2017, 11:21 PM
Yeah, where are all these kicks all of a sudden? Never heard much about it. So he COULD control his kicking tendencies? Who knew an athlete of the highest level could do that...

cmellofan15
05-26-2017, 11:33 PM
James has to be seeing the his basketball life flash before his eyes. Durant and Green going to make James quit.

Yeah like when Isaiah Thomas called it quits last series? LMAOOO

kobe4thewinbang
05-27-2017, 02:00 AM
Preface: I'm glad that the Cavaliers were able to dispatch the Celtics before a dreadful injury claimed one of the Cavaliers. My hope is for an injury-free finals, despite Pachulia saying he will be able to play in them at some point.

Official Prediction: Warriors in 5 games
I think the Warriors will win both games at home and then possibly win Game 3 in Cleveland, putting the Cavaliers down 0-3. Cavaliers will survive Game 4, but Warriors close it out at home and Durant celebrates.

Rooting for the Cavaliers to win in 6 games (win one of Game 1/Game 2 and then both at home, then win Game 6 in Cleveland).

I hope Klay Thompson finally shows up in this series. I will enjoy seeing LeBron on Durant. I hope Deron Williams can have a good contribution. I trust Kyrie to be the clutch killer that he is. Did y'all see that spin move the other night into a step-back 3PTer? Wow...dude is unreal.

It's too bad that Bogut got hurt for the Cavaliers. But with the way LeBron is playing, this should be a great series. Remember my prediction, though: I think it could be close the whole way, but be decided just as quickly. Both of these teams are that talented at scoring and going on huge runs, especially Golden State. This summer will be interesting for the Warriors, but I expect this will be their moment to get another championship, making Curry & co two-time champs.

I would love for LeBron to beat these odds, but the dude is human at some point. He can win a 4th ring another time.

jason
05-27-2017, 05:54 AM
I'm sure he stewed plenty but Klay practically ran off the court, he didn't sit there and watch the Cavs celebrate or even congratulate them (IIRC). Curry definitely did (as well as s few others). Totally respected it and said so at the time.

And it's funny how last year Green couldn't control those flails; they were his natural movements. This year, though they're mostly under control. So that was bs last year or he taught himself how not to kick people in the balls and in the ****ing head.

Get over it

NFLAccess
05-27-2017, 06:04 AM
There's no chance this series ends in 4

BKLYNpigeon
05-27-2017, 09:47 AM
James has to be seeing the his basketball life flash before his eyes. Durant and Green going to make James quit.

No shame in making to the NBA finals and losing to the warriors. They're a really talented team.

The only NBA finals you can knock lebron for is the finals agains the mavericks. Absolutely Pathetic.

Scoots
05-27-2017, 09:51 AM
And it's funny how last year Green couldn't control those flails; they were his natural movements. This year, though they're mostly under control. So that was bs last year or he taught himself how not to kick people in the balls and in the ****ing head.

Or he was unlucky last year and not as unlucky this year. I watched Kawhi and others have similar leg kicks this year, they just didn't contact anyone. And lets face it, a wild flail contacting Harden is just poetic justice :)

likemystylez
05-27-2017, 10:16 AM
from everything im hearing on sports radio. KD is in a no win situation and so are the warriors (in terms of public opnion)

If the warriors win- its cuz they had to make the league unbalanced and add kd onto a 73 win team (Even though this team isnt the same that won 73 games)

If the warriors lose- the haters will say they went out and got kd and still choked



Its weird, where were all the Stephen A smith haters to complain the league was unbalanced when the warriors were out of the playoffs for 14 straight years

FOXHOUND
05-27-2017, 12:42 PM
ESPN made an attempt to quantify the star power in this series compared to NBA Finals history. Hardly scientific, but a decent and quick way of doing so.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank_finalsstars/is-cavaliers-warriors-round-3-most-star-studded-nba-finals-ever-nbarank

TrueFan420
05-27-2017, 12:44 PM
Its weird, where were all the Stephen A smith haters to complain the league was unbalanced when the warriors were out of the playoffs for 14 straight years
Or when Jordan and the bulls were busy winning 6 rings in what 8 years. Or Shaq and Kobe dominating the league.

SteBO
05-27-2017, 01:14 PM
from everything im hearing on sports radio. KD is in a no win situation and so are the warriors (in terms of public opnion)

If the warriors win- its cuz they had to make the league unbalanced and add kd onto a 73 win team (Even though this team isnt the same that won 73 games)

If the warriors lose- the haters will say they went out and got kd and still choked



Its weird, where were all the Stephen A smith haters to complain the league was unbalanced when the warriors were out of the playoffs for 14 straight years
Too bad, so sad. Thems the breaks when you have a super stacked team. It comes with expectations.

nastynice
05-27-2017, 01:17 PM
Oh, I remember him kicking Blake in the head during a loose ball and him nut kicking someone else this year. Don't remember many more, though. Links to these threads, please.

My point is, after they lost (one could argue that his suspension was a reason), he's toned it down this year. He was out of control last year and a goddamn maniac in the postseason. This year? I haven't seen it as much. But it was his natural movements they said. He couldn't help it, they said.

Haha, bro, the guy would feel contact and exaggerate the **** by flailing. That's his flop.

Get over it, they say.

They are quite wise..

Speaking of they, did they mention the irony of a rockets fan not being able to immediately recognize a flop? You know better than that..

KG2TB
05-27-2017, 01:24 PM
The finals don't start until Thursday and then there's 3 days in between games after that? These playoffs have sucked and that format is bad.

Monta is beast
05-27-2017, 02:04 PM
If the Warriors win it this year Curry would be 2/3 in the finals, LeBron would be 3/8. If we win the discussions about curry vs lebron are going to re open.

More-Than-Most
05-27-2017, 02:25 PM
If the Warriors win it this year Curry would be 2/3 in the finals, LeBron would be 3/8. If we win the discussions about curry vs lebron are going to re open.

:laugh:

2 finals wins and probably no finals mvps... must be nice right? there will never be a discussion between curry and lebron... ever... sorry.

Saddletramp
05-27-2017, 02:27 PM
If the Warriors win it this year Curry would be 2/3 in the finals, LeBron would be 3/8. If we win the discussions about curry vs lebron are going to re open.

No, they're really not.



Haha, bro, the guy would feel contact and exaggerate the **** by flailing. That's his flop.

Get over it, they say.

They are quite wise..

Speaking of they, did they mention the irony of a rockets fan not being able to immediately recognize a flop? You know better than that..

That's funny, I don't hardly ever see anyone else flop and it leads to nut kicks and kicks to guys' heads. I'm not a fan of flopping (yes, even from Harden) but flopping and flopping that leads to controlled kicks to other players aren't the same thing.

Your boy is a goon that should be immediately ejected every time he kicks a player, flop or not.

IKnowHoops
05-27-2017, 02:37 PM
Will we ever see an assortment of talent this star studded ever/healthy again in NBA history? Have we ever before? My guess is no. Worth considering.

Showtime vs Celtics?

Scoots
05-27-2017, 02:38 PM
Everybody here knows that the "Warriors hate" and "LeBron hate" is just a really small portion of the population right? Mostly some talking heads on TV who are paid for their "hot takes" and people on online forums who are obsessed with such things.

The fact is that most basketball people love to watch the Warriors play and marvel at LeBron's ability.

Jersey sales:
1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
2. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
3. Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
4. Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers

Team merch sales:
1. Golden State Warriors
2. Cleveland Cavaliers

It appears the average fan is happy with super teams, and the NBA is FAR more interested in what the average fan thinks than some squeaking nuts on online forums :)

Bostonjorge
05-27-2017, 02:40 PM
:laugh:

2 finals wins and probably no finals mvps... must be nice right? there will never be a discussion between curry and lebron... ever... sorry.

What about Durant?

GREATNESS ONE
05-27-2017, 04:15 PM
Amazing player or not but 3/8 in finals looks hella ugly.

Scoots
05-27-2017, 04:27 PM
Amazing player or not but 3/8 in finals looks hella ugly.

3 is impressive. 8 is even more impressive. How many players have lead a team to 8 finals?

GREATNESS ONE
05-27-2017, 04:32 PM
Not many greats got a chance to play in a weak conference and hand pick their rosters for the last 8years or so.

I like how Hawky likes to say 80's Magic but most of the teams were fairly balanced.

krazylegz
05-27-2017, 04:46 PM
cavs in 3

eDush
05-27-2017, 04:46 PM
Everybody here knows that the "Warriors hate" and "LeBron hate" is just a really small portion of the population right? Mostly some talking heads on TV who are paid for their "hot takes" and people on online forums who are obsessed with such things.

The fact is that most basketball people love to watch the Warriors play and marvel at LeBron's ability.

Jersey sales:
1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
2. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
3. Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
4. Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers

Team merch sales:
1. Golden State Warriors
2. Cleveland Cavaliers

It appears the average fan is happy with super teams, and the NBA is FAR more interested in what the average fan thinks than some squeaking nuts on online forums :)At least I help contribute to Steph's #1 sales figure with his genuine home jersey that I will wear on game day....have you?

Thought so....it does show whose the real Steph fans are on here :nod:

FlashBolt
05-27-2017, 05:02 PM
Showtime vs Celtics?

All at their peak? I mean, KAJ was past his prime already. Realistically, this Cavs vs Warriors, every top player is most likely at their peak. It's close but realistically, this is a stacked Finals.

Saddletramp
05-27-2017, 05:04 PM
not many greats got a chance to play in a weak conference and hand pick their rosters for the last 8years or so.

i like how hawky likes to say 80's magic but most of the teams were fairly balanced.

wtf

Monta is beast
05-27-2017, 05:30 PM
I don't see how the curry vs Bron argument could "never" be made when that's all I heard last year...

currys playing just as well as Bron is in the playoffs. There per 48 #s are basically the same.

europagnpilgrim
05-27-2017, 05:40 PM
3 is impressive. 8 is even more impressive. How many players have lead a team to 8 finals?

This is what I use when I say I would rather be Magic and go to 9 finals rather than win/be in 6 like Jordan did, I would rather do what Russell/Magic/West/Lebron/Jabbar are doing by being there at the end regardless of the result

hell even West only won 1 title and is the damn logo of the nba, seems to me its more like getting there is a bigger accomplishment than winning it if West got the logo but it probably should have went to Russell but we all know the powers that be wouldn't allow that

Scoots
05-27-2017, 05:42 PM
At least I help contribute to Steph's #1 sales figure with his genuine home jersey that I will wear on game day....have you?

Thought so....it does show whose the real Steph fans are on here :nod:

:rolleyes:

Scoots
05-27-2017, 05:44 PM
This is what I use when I say I would rather be Magic and go to 9 finals rather than win/be in 6 like Jordan did, I would rather do what Russell/Magic/West/Lebron/Jabbar are doing by being there at the end regardless of the result

hell even West only won 1 title and is the damn logo of the nba, seems to me its more like getting there is a bigger accomplishment than winning it if West got the logo but it probably should have went to Russell but we all know the powers that be wouldn't allow that

Getting to the finals is the 2nd biggest achievement possible in an NBA season.

Had Jordan not retired he may have been there 2 more times.

Monta is beast
05-27-2017, 05:44 PM
To me adding JD makes the star power more even

KD vs Bron

Curry vs Kyrie

Dray vs love

Postseason Klay vs Korver

Monta is beast
05-27-2017, 05:47 PM
Getting to the finals is the 2nd biggest achievement possible in an NBA season.

Had Jordan not retired he may have been there 2 more times.

I'd put winning an MVP over losing in the finals

Monta is beast
05-27-2017, 05:48 PM
If Jordan didn't retire he'd have 7-8 rings people seem to forget that

europagnpilgrim
05-27-2017, 05:54 PM
James has to be seeing the his basketball life flash before his eyes. Durant and Green going to make James quit.

that's the feeling I get from Lebron when I see him play the Spurs throughout his career for most part, if any indication of the 2nd game this season went between those two teams then he will be tapping out, Dubs blew that 14pt lead the first time around and won by almost 40 the second game, might be deja vu all over again

europagnpilgrim
05-27-2017, 06:00 PM
This series is a toss up pick for me because I want Lebron to add his 4th but since he has 3 I would like for KD to get his first similar to how I was glad to see KG get his in Boston as well as Pierce

europagnpilgrim
05-27-2017, 06:27 PM
Getting to the finals is the 2nd biggest achievement possible in an NBA season.

Had Jordan not retired he may have been there 2 more times.

No doubt and he could have been 6-2 because it seemed Rockets had Bulls number and a dominant Center plus perimeter defenders who weren't in awe or scared of Jordan

to me getting to the Finals is 1a with of course winning trumping it but all you hope for is to be one of the last two standing when the season starts to compete for the ship, as we all basically picked this matchup to be before the season even had a pre season game

Federal Reserve
05-27-2017, 10:31 PM
Every time Lebron has lost in the finals, he lost big (4-0, 4-1, 4-2). There were several teams in the western conference in those years that played better against the eventual champions than did Lebron's teams. What this means is, had Lebron played in the west, he would have certainly not made the finals given that there were several teams that would have eliminated his. Don't forget, when Lebron went to the finals in 2007, he beat a Pistons team that had 52 wins (first seed). The team had lost Wallace, and was playing strictly on experience. There were about 3-5 teams in the western conference that would have swept the Cavs.

Lebron is currently the second best player of all time. Winning this series will STRONGLY help his case to be put above Jordan. We shall see what happens, but I am not holding my breathe in hopes of seeing Lebron win.

Warriors in 4.

ODB13
05-27-2017, 10:46 PM
Finally LeBron will play an actual basketball team this postseason.

cmellofan15
05-27-2017, 11:09 PM
To me adding JD makes the star power more even

KD vs Bron

Curry vs Kyrie

Dray vs love

Postseason Klay vs Korver

Lmao klay vs a dude who gets like 15mpg? hahaha yeah star power

eDush
05-27-2017, 11:36 PM
To me adding JD makes the star power more even

KD vs Bron

Curry vs Kyrie

Dray vs love

Postseason Klay vs KorverWhose JD and why are you comparing a starter with a reserve player? It would either be Clark or McCaw against him instead of insulting Klay like that :facepalm:

Even Iggy is more of a star than Korver ever has. He's just a specialist and nothing more.

LA_Raiders
05-28-2017, 12:25 AM
Warriors in 5. LeFlop will be overwhelmed guarding KD and on the other side dealing with Green, KD and Iggy.

tredigs
05-28-2017, 12:42 AM
Cleveland can't rotate and close (if the reg season was not enough of a sample size, watching every playoff game of theirs certainly was), and the Warriors have 3 of the best perimeter shooters in history + a PF who can't miss. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Doesn't help that the Cav's feast on 3pt shooting and are facing the best 3pt defensive team in the league. If you legit think the Cavs are going to win this series, you are praying for injury and/or a die hard Cavs fan. I personally just put 9K on the Warriors.

nastynice
05-28-2017, 01:26 AM
Cleveland can't rotate and close (if the reg season was not enough of a sample size, watching every playoff game of theirs certainly was), and the Warriors have 3 of the best perimeter shooters in history + a PF who can't miss. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Doesn't help that the Cav's feast on 3pt shooting and are facing the best 3pt defensive team in the league. If you legit think the Cavs are going to win this series, you are praying for injury and/or a die hard Cavs fan. I personally just put 9K on the Warriors.

What's the payback on that?

FlashBolt
05-28-2017, 01:51 AM
Cleveland can't rotate and close (if the reg season was not enough of a sample size, watching every playoff game of theirs certainly was), and the Warriors have 3 of the best perimeter shooters in history + a PF who can't miss. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Doesn't help that the Cav's feast on 3pt shooting and are facing the best 3pt defensive team in the league. If you legit think the Cavs are going to win this series, you are praying for injury and/or a die hard Cavs fan. I personally just put 9K on the Warriors.

I agree it's the Warriors season to lose but:

1) Cavs have the deeper and more experienced bench. Can Warriors trust Ian Clark and McCaw? Matt Barnes is done.
2) Curry+KD haven't proven to me that they can survive under pressure. Sorry, not buying it.
3) If Draymond can't miss, so can't K.Love. He's shooting 48% on more shot attempts.
4) Cavs are a physically tougher team. That will help them.
5) Javale and Zaza foul way too much. LeBron+Kyrie will be eating at the FT line.
6) TT is gonna eat the boards up.

I'm not saying Cavs will win but I really think it's too early to tell. I need to watch games 1-2 to see.

More-Than-Most
05-28-2017, 01:54 AM
Cleveland can't rotate and close (if the reg season was not enough of a sample size, watching every playoff game of theirs certainly was), and the Warriors have 3 of the best perimeter shooters in history + a PF who can't miss. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Doesn't help that the Cav's feast on 3pt shooting and are facing the best 3pt defensive team in the league. If you legit think the Cavs are going to win this series, you are praying for injury and/or a die hard Cavs fan. I personally just put 9K on the Warriors.

I put 2500 on the warriors lol... my friend is a lawyer and a cavs fan... I said the warriors will win in 5... He said wanna bet? I said seriously? He said I will make this simple... pick the dollar amount... If the warriors win in 4/5/6 games you win... if the cavs win or the cavs lose in 7 I win... I said 2500... He said deal.... O.O Feels so ****ing wrong but I am not turning down a sure thing.


LETS GO WARRIORS lol

FlashBolt
05-28-2017, 02:03 AM
Finally LeBron will play an actual basketball team this postseason.

Why is an OBJ fan talking about anyone playing an actual sport... OBJ is more interested in partying than getting better lmao

krazylegz
05-28-2017, 02:04 AM
Cleveland can't rotate and close (if the reg season was not enough of a sample size, watching every playoff game of theirs certainly was), and the Warriors have 3 of the best perimeter shooters in history + a PF who can't miss. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Doesn't help that the Cav's feast on 3pt shooting and are facing the best 3pt defensive team in the league. If you legit think the Cavs are going to win this series, you are praying for injury and/or a die hard Cavs fan. I personally just put 9K on the Warriors.
receipt of bet,or it didnt happen....prooooove it

IKnowHoops
05-28-2017, 03:04 AM
I would put Lebron on Draymond and have Tristan guard Durant. Bron owns Drayond when they are guarding each other, and Draymond seems to get a little timid around him.

IKnowHoops
05-28-2017, 03:09 AM
Durant is going to get his, but he will have to work very hard against Tristan and he will take a beating physically. Hebron usually completely dominates Dray when he is on him. That would be huge if Bron guards Dray.

FlashBolt
05-28-2017, 03:11 AM
I would put Lebron on Draymond and have Tristan guard Durant. Bron owns Drayond when they are guarding each other, and Draymond seems to get a little timid around him.

Bad idea because Bron doesn't protect the rim at all.

eDush
05-28-2017, 03:41 AM
I would put Lebron on Draymond and have Tristan guard Durant. Bron owns Drayond when they are guarding each other, and Draymond seems to get a little timid around him.Only in switch coverages lol, not all the time and it makes no sense as Lebron will get beat up physically in the paint by Dray considering he does so much already running the show and will be better covering a finesse player even though it won't make much difference who is guarding him if he is hot. Tristan is paid to be physical down low so leave him there.

likemystylez
05-28-2017, 07:30 AM
Durant is going to get his, but he will have to work very hard against Tristan and he will take a beating physically. Hebron usually completely dominates Dray when he is on him. That would be huge if Bron guards Dray.

so wait- you want tristian chasing durant around 20-30 feet from the basket? good luck dominating the boards when your trying to close out on a guy shooting a fade away 25 footer

KnicksorBust
05-28-2017, 08:28 AM
My gut says Warriors in 5. I really think they are the best team of all-time. But then I tell myself LeBron won't let that happen. Historic Finals. This one feels more important. Rubber match.

tredigs
05-28-2017, 09:14 AM
What's the payback on that?

It's across multiple books, but just shy of $3500. I'll be mitigating the risk by betting Cle to cover two of the games pretty heavy.


I put 2500 on the warriors lol... my friend is a lawyer and a cavs fan... I said the warriors will win in 5... He said wanna bet? I said seriously? He said I will make this simple... pick the dollar amount... If the warriors win in 4/5/6 games you win... if the cavs win or the cavs lose in 7 I win... I said 2500... He said deal.... O.O Feels so ****ing wrong but I am not turning down a sure thing.


LETS GO WARRIORS lol

Haha that is pretty solid and an interesting way to bet it. I'm hedging off slightly by betting Cle to cover (though not win) games 1 and probably 3, and if it does end up going 7 I'm just going to hedge it all off. I see it as a 5 or 6 game series though.

prodigy
05-28-2017, 09:31 AM
warriors in 5 or 6... Lebron will cover KD... Green will dominate love.... Kyrie and curry will be interesting... Klay will light them on fire and force bron off of durant and the house of cards will fall down.... If this was warriors/cavs 3 without durant I think it goes 7 and would be interesting.... I cant see any way the cavs win... Lebron would have to have the best finals ever while kyrie has the best finals ever and they did that last year and barely won... Now the warriors have KD... It makes me sick... It really does.

Green will dominate Love? Green shot 41% from the field as a dang PF lmao! and 30% from 3. Loves a much better re-bounder. Green is a solid all around player but quit acting like he some legend lol.

Warriors sold out for this reason. to win a ship. Durant whos a top 5 player in this league joined a team That won a ship 2 years ago and last season had 73 wins and came within a few pts of repeating. We've never season anything like that before. You cant say lebron because he didn't join a team with that resume.

I hope for a great and fun series. The cavs are by far the underdogs. but thats nothing new to this team, and when you have the GOAT anything is possible. I'm a huge Cleveland sports fan, but i also try to remain un bias. GS is a sick over stacked team Which is why they beat everyone by a margin of almost 20 a game. I'm of course taking my cavs but its gonna be a battles of a life time.

If GS does win the ship fairly easy i would like the NBA to start steeping in when it comes to trades or FA signings. I know that prob will never happen and i know the NBA competation level has never been even, but its time to fix this.

tredigs
05-28-2017, 09:57 AM
^Dray's the best defender in the game right now and has been a top 5 playoff performer. Better than Durant even. That 42/31 is has become 50/47 over the past 400+ minutes. Underestimating him by reciting reg season shooting numbers is not helping your cause. Neither is crying about teams doing everything they can to dominate.

BKLYNpigeon
05-28-2017, 10:07 AM
Super teams come and go, it's part of the NBA. The warriors will probably let go of klay or green in the next 2-3 years, it's invevitable. The rules and contract structures in place just haven't caught up to them yet.

People are still bitter about the warriors abundance of talent, but they're still under the luxury tax threashold this year. The cavs spent over 50m on taxes last season and will pay about the same amount this year.

goingfor28
05-28-2017, 10:45 AM
At least I help contribute to Steph's #1 sales figure with his genuine home jersey that I will wear on game day....have you?

Thought so....it does show whose the real Steph fans are on here :nod:
Right. If you can't afford, or just plain don't spend $250 on an authentic jersey, you must not be a real fan.

:facepalm:

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Vee-Rex
05-28-2017, 10:53 AM
I personally just put 9K on the Warriors.

Despite it looking like GS will cruise to a win in 5 or 6, that takes some guts. I'd be afraid to bet against this version of LeBron.

I think it's gonna come down to how well Iggy can guard LeBron compared to the past 2 years.

tredigs
05-28-2017, 11:18 AM
Despite it looking like GS will cruise to a win in 5 or 6, that takes some guts. I'd be afraid to bet against this version of LeBron.

I think it's gonna come down to how well Iggy can guard LeBron compared to the past 2 years.

I think Lebron can go Nova and they can weather that storm, but it's crucial that they keep Irving and Love at a non EC Final level. I don't know that their shooting from the ECF's is sustainable even against a practice squad, let alone the best 3pt defense, but still, it needs to be a top priority to rotate with tenacity and get out on every shot. Curry/KD/Draymond are all playing at extremely high levels and are 100%, so it's tough to find roadmaps to victory against three top 10 level impact guys all going at their best, specifically when their skill sets are all complementary. Plus, like I mentioned it's going to be hedged enough with Cavs covers (that hopefully they lose but still cover) that it's a much smaller bet in reality than on paper. On prop bets alone I may fire a lot more money lol. I love Finals player props maybe more than any other means of gambling. It's going to be a fun week, and luckily with their scheduled days/times I am able to watch every game live this year. Pretty excited, even if the worst case scenario for me ends up unfolding.

prodigy
05-28-2017, 12:40 PM
^Dray's the best defender in the game right now and has been a top 5 playoff performer. Better than Durant even. That 42/31 is has become 50/47 over the past 400+ minutes. Underestimating him by reciting reg season shooting numbers is not helping your cause. Neither is crying about teams doing everything they can to dominate.

Helping my cause? lmao this is a sports forum where people come to express their opinions and ideas. Really careless what people think of my cause. Donate to cancer organizations if u want a good "cause".

prodigy
05-28-2017, 12:43 PM
People are still bitter about the warriors abundance of talent, but they're still under the luxury tax threashold this year. The cavs spent over 50m on taxes last season and will pay about the same amount this year.

Wait until they gotta pay these fellas like this off season lol. Durant, Curry, Thompson and green will all get max at some point from GS or someone else.

prodigy
05-28-2017, 12:46 PM
I think Lebron can go Nova and they can weather that storm, but it's crucial that they keep Irving and Love at a non EC Final level. I don't know that their shooting from the ECF's is sustainable even against a practice squad, let alone the best 3pt defense, but still, it needs to be a top priority to rotate with tenacity and get out on every shot. Curry/KD/Draymond are all playing at extremely high levels and are 100%, so it's tough to find roadmaps to victory against three top 10 level impact guys all going at their best, specifically when their skill sets are all complementary. Plus, like I mentioned it's going to be hedged enough with Cavs covers (that hopefully they lose but still cover) that it's a much smaller bet in reality than on paper. On prop bets alone I may fire a lot more money lol. I love Finals player props maybe more than any other means of gambling. It's going to be a fun week, and luckily with their scheduled days/times I am able to watch every game live this year. Pretty excited, even if the worst case scenario for me ends up unfolding.

If u have 9 thousand to just spend like that put a 1000 down on cavs instead. then if they do win u would prob make much more. I'm not sure how all that stuff works but i know Warriors are clear favs.

tredigs
05-28-2017, 12:52 PM
If u have 9 thousand to just spend like that put a 1000 down on cavs instead. then if they do win u would prob make much more. I'm not sure how all that stuff works but i know Warriors are clear favs.

Well, I am putting money on the Cavs as well, just in certain games and not to outright win (they are going to be 7 point underdogs in game 1 for example, so if they lose by 6 or less than I would win the Cavs game bet and remain on course with the Warriors).

It's not as if I'm filthy rich, I have to put a decent amount of thought and strategy behind bigger bets like that. There's a lot of ways to "but out"/hedge a series bet if you don't like what you're seeing in the early going. I would not spend 1K on the Cavs when I don't think they will win.

eDush
05-28-2017, 01:04 PM
If u have 9 thousand to just spend like that put a 1000 down on cavs instead. then if they do win u would prob make much more. I'm not sure how all that stuff works but i know Warriors are clear favs.Whatever is placed on the Cavs will win just north of 2x that minus ur juice so they won't win more besides it would be a waste of money to take the dogs, injuries notwithstanding. You be better off betting on who wins the tip off since the chances are 50/50 :nod:

Monta is beast
05-28-2017, 01:05 PM
Y'all really tripping cause I compared korver to klay? Have you watched any games? Klay is my dude but he shoots and defends and his shot is inconsistent. Playoffs come around and he always does this. Like I said game 6 in the wcf saved him from that rep.

Now watch klay go light it up

eDush
05-28-2017, 01:14 PM
Y'all really tripping cause I compared korver to klay? Have you watched any games? Klay is my dude but he shoots and defends and his shot is inconsistent. Playoffs come around and he always does this. Like I said game 6 in the wcf saved him from that rep.

Now watch klay go light it up
He won't with Durant in the starting unit for whatever reason that may be nor does he needs to be when said player is starting.
:no:

This is based on observation from the entire season and not some random sample like you might be doing by comparing him with Korver who is not inconsistent with what he does best as a situational player.

WaDe03
05-28-2017, 01:23 PM
Just put 35K on Deron Williams winning Finals MVP. He's been waiting for this moment for his whole career now.

GodsSon
05-28-2017, 01:29 PM
Cavs in 6.

LeBron is going to cement his legacy with this one.

Lakers + Giants
05-28-2017, 01:46 PM
Dropped money on Dubs -1.5 for the series @ (-130).

Let's go Dubs!

FlashBolt
05-28-2017, 02:11 PM
Hey, Tre. If K.Love plays the way he is this playoffs, Cavs win. He's shooting 48%.

Bostonjorge
05-28-2017, 02:26 PM
After the finals I want to see a Shaqtin a fool with, JAVAL MCGEE! We can see him catching a green lob pass for a dunk on James. We can see lebron take it to the rim and Javal pin James shoot to the back board. Finally we can watch him hold up the Larry Obrian Trophy. JAVAL MCGEE!!!!

HandsOnTheWheel
05-28-2017, 02:28 PM
Just put 35K on Deron Williams winning Finals MVP. He's been waiting for this moment for his whole career now.

:laugh2:

eDush
05-28-2017, 02:32 PM
Just put 35K on Deron Williams winning Finals MVP. He's been waiting for this moment for his whole career now.

:laugh2:I would pay to see him try to do to Lue what he did to Jerry Sloan :laugh2:

tredigs
05-28-2017, 02:33 PM
Hey, Tre. If K.Love plays the way he is this playoffs, Cavs win. He's shooting 48%.

I don't think that cuts it, but if he shot like he/Kyrie did last series they certainly could. What was his ts like 76 percent? Don't think that's happening against by far the best D they will have faced.

tredigs
05-28-2017, 02:42 PM
The Warriors as a team are shooting north of 50 percent from the field.

still1ballin
05-28-2017, 05:01 PM
Do the LT

GREATNESS ONE
05-28-2017, 05:40 PM
Do the LT

Hey you think, I can get fried chicken for dinner instead of fish heads tonight? It's tough living in your basement!

GREATNESS ONE
05-28-2017, 05:41 PM
Cavs in 6.

LeBron is going to cement his legacy with this one.

What if gets swept or ousted in 5? Does that cement it the other way?

GodsSon
05-28-2017, 06:02 PM
What if gets swept or ousted in 5? Does that cement it the other way?

After last years finals it's funny to see so many people doubting with the "Warriors in 4 or 5" narrative.

Heard the same **** last year too and what happened? Lots of boiled crow to be had.

GREATNESS ONE
05-28-2017, 06:59 PM
After last years finals it's funny to see so many people doubting with the "Warriors in 4 or 5" narrative.

Heard the same **** last year too and what happened? Lots of boiled crow to be had.

So I'll take that as no, Lebron is the greatest of all time, he's the most competitive amazing player ever.


We'll see... I'm going to enjoy the curb stomping coming, I'm picking my poison and rather see my Bay Area boys cheering and celebrating a parade.

Going to enjoy the excuses this summer of why Lebron lost 5 finals and has not much help most of his career.

still1ballin
05-28-2017, 08:37 PM
Do the LT

Hey you think, I can get fried chicken for dinner instead of fish heads tonight? It's tough living in your basement!

Sure, if you do the LT.

GREATNESS ONE
05-28-2017, 08:43 PM
Sure, if you do the LT.

:sad2:

IKnowHoops
05-28-2017, 09:26 PM
Yeah, I'm quite surprised by the lack of faith in the Cavs. Cavs are going to shock some people.

IKnowHoops
05-28-2017, 09:30 PM
Lebron is playin the best basketball of his career. So are Kyrie and Love.

Lebron has his best team at his best against the best team ever assembled.

We are all very fortunate to be able to see this matchup. Playoff b-ball at the highest level

Lakers + Giants
05-28-2017, 10:00 PM
Lebron is playin the best basketball of his career. So are Kyrie and Love.

Lebron has his best team at his best against the best team ever assembled.

We are all very fortunate to be able to see this matchup. Playoff b-ball at the highest level

The best team in history is about to end them in a series that we all will remember as the cleveland massacre. And I'll be able to say I bet on that :)

Scoots
05-28-2017, 10:02 PM
Kevin Love seems to think the Cavs are stacked.

JJ_JKidd
05-28-2017, 10:14 PM
Warriors in 6, but if it reaches a 7th game id have the Cavs winning.

likemystylez
05-28-2017, 10:17 PM
The best team in history is about to end them in a series that we all will remember as the cleveland massacre. And I'll be able to say I bet on that :)

only thing im worried about is the casual turnovers golden state is prone too. if golden state manages their possessions and plays anywhere near their norm- not sure the cavs can do anything about it..... but warriors still have 8-10 turnovers a game that are just carelessness and nothing to do with the opposing teams defense.

its a scary thing for a team that is offensively efficient as they are even with those careless mistakes

kobe4thewinbang
05-28-2017, 11:20 PM
...Still, Warriors in 5. I have a $5 bet with a coworker, and neither of us give Cleveland a realistic chance, so he says 6 games and I say 5.

WITZ
05-28-2017, 11:53 PM
Defending champs getting no respect Cavs in 6. Kyrie gonna own Curry like he has last 2 finals he is on a tear going into the finals.

likemystylez
05-28-2017, 11:53 PM
Defending champs getting no respect Cavs in 6. Kyrie gonna own Curry like he has last 2 finals he is on a tear going into the finals.

kyrie owned curry int he finals in 2015? kyrie was literally a no show when he got hurt. curry had the balls to play through his injury in 2016.... kyrie just didnt even show up afterwards

WITZ
05-29-2017, 12:06 AM
kyrie owned curry int he finals in 2015? kyrie was literally a no show when he got hurt. curry had the balls to play through his injury in 2016.... kyrie just didnt even show up afterwards

Are u dumb?? do u not know how split knee caps work? Lets send him out in crutches and put the surgery on hold :laugh:

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 12:09 AM
Are u dumb?? do u not know how split knee caps work? Lets send him out in crutches and put the surgery on hold :laugh:

ummmm well even if you give him a pass for sitting out during THE NBA FINALS- How is that the same as dominating curry

Raps18-19 Champ
05-29-2017, 12:10 AM
If the warriors win do the 3-1 jokes stop? Lol

Probably. But in the sense that it's last years news.

But down the road, when people look back in history though, it will still stick out to many people. The only way people would ever forget thier 3-1 is if someone else falls after being up 3-1 (to take their place).

Raps18-19 Champ
05-29-2017, 12:12 AM
I think Warriors win by double digits (maybe blowout) game 1 and 2. Game 3 will be a close Cleveland win. Game 4 will be a close Warriors win. Game 5 will be a blowout for the Warriors.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 12:13 AM
I think Warriors win by double digits (maybe blowout) game 1 and 2. Game 3 will be a close Cleveland win. Game 4 will be a close Warriors win. Game 5 will be a blowout for the Warriors.

funny- thats how i thought itd go down last year

Raps18-19 Champ
05-29-2017, 12:14 AM
Kevin Love seems to think the Cavs are stacked.

I'm sure the Cavs are confident, but moreso because they HAVE to be. Even if they have to force themselves to be confident.

Otherwise, if they were outsiders looking at this matchup, I highly doubt he'd feel the same way.

nastynice
05-29-2017, 12:15 AM
only thing im worried about is the casual turnovers golden state is prone too. if golden state manages their possessions and plays anywhere near their norm- not sure the cavs can do anything about it..... but warriors still have 8-10 turnovers a game that are just carelessness and nothing to do with the opposing teams defense.

its a scary thing for a team that is offensively efficient as they are even with those careless mistakes

I feel like our boys gonna be locked in. I expect full squad at full tilt until it's official

eDush
05-29-2017, 01:53 AM
kyrie owned curry int he finals in 2015? kyrie was literally a no show when he got hurt. curry had the balls to play through his injury in 2016.... kyrie just didnt even show up afterwards

Are u dumb?? do u not know how split knee caps work? Lets send him out in crutches and put the surgery on hold :laugh:He also called out Love cause his other arm wasn't pulled out of its socket so he could still use that one on the court :facepalm:

Saddletramp
05-29-2017, 02:23 AM
kyrie owned curry int he finals in 2015? kyrie was literally a no show when he got hurt. curry had the balls to play through his injury in 2016.... kyrie just didnt even show up afterwards

You really don't know **** about injuries, do you?


ummmm well even if you give him a pass for sitting out during THE NBA FINALS- How is that the same as dominating curry

This one's even better. Good Christ.

europagnpilgrim
05-29-2017, 02:54 AM
What if gets swept or ousted in 5? Does that cement it the other way?


That's the funny thing about how people so called rank these players, they always say well if he wins 3 more he will move up and such, then if he loses 3 in a row they will say well you cant take away his accolades and blah blah so he cant go down, like what the hell type of thinking is that?

they say if Lebron wins he is top 2 ever, if Lebron loses he is top 2 ever because his help didn't come through, especially if Love flops again as usual against this team and Kyrie doesn't serve Curry up like last years final few games of that series

I have never heard of a player who can jump into GOAT conversation with a win but don't fall back if he loses, what a wonderful day In age to be a Lebron fan, fantastic

to me if Lebron plays the next 3 finals like a mix of Dallas/Spurs in 07'/Spurs beatdown in 14' he will still be where I have him on my best most dominant draft circle, and they could lose or win all 3 times and it still wont move the needle for me, he is solidified but would be with a 3-7 Finals record which would make him basically a modern day Wilt who didn't win enough rings despite the impressive individual numbers but had more talent in his prime/apex than what Wilt had

More-Than-Most
05-29-2017, 04:22 AM
That's the funny thing about how people so called rank these players, they always say well if he wins 3 more he will move up and such, then if he loses 3 in a row they will say well you cant take away his accolades and blah blah so he cant go down, like what the hell type of thinking is that?

they say if Lebron wins he is top 2 ever, if Lebron loses he is top 2 ever because his help didn't come through, especially if Love flops again as usual against this team and Kyrie doesn't serve Curry up like last years final few games of that series

I have never heard of a player who can jump into GOAT conversation with a win but don't fall back if he loses, what a wonderful day In age to be a Lebron fan, fantastic

to me if Lebron plays the next 3 finals like a mix of Dallas/Spurs in 07'/Spurs beatdown in 14' he will still be where I have him on my best most dominant draft circle, and they could lose or win all 3 times and it still wont move the needle for me, he is solidified but would be with a 3-7 Finals record which would make him basically a modern day Wilt who didn't win enough rings despite the impressive individual numbers but had more talent in his prime/apex than what Wilt had

you never heard of a player? Kobe? Duncan? Durant? Shaq? These guys lost finals and kept moving up but not falling... I could easily go on. Your utter hate and lack of logic continue to show.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 08:43 AM
You really don't know **** about injuries, do you?



This one's even better. Good Christ.

injuries aside- the original poster said irving dominated curry during the finals both of the last 2 years. If irving is sitting out with an injury- how can you say he was dominating curry?

Scoots
05-29-2017, 09:51 AM
Are u dumb?? do u not know how split knee caps work? Lets send him out in crutches and put the surgery on hold :laugh:

I keep saying it and nobody seems to get it ... Stylez doesn't believe in injuries unless he sees exposed bone.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 10:07 AM
I keep saying it and nobody seems to get it ... Stylez doesn't believe in injuries unless he sees exposed bone.

so again- injuries aside- how can one say kyrie destroyed curry in 2015 if he was never out there?

prodigy
05-29-2017, 10:13 AM
We'll see... I'm going to enjoy the curb stomping coming, I'm picking my poison and rather see my Bay Area boys cheering and celebrating a parade.

Why would you wanna see that? no matter who wins i want a great series. a sweep or an "easy" 5 game series is horrible for the game and bad to watch. Of course i want my cavs to win by any means, but i'm an NBA fan as well. Either team getting smoked is horrible.

But u seem to be a troll just wanting to insult others so i doubt u care much lol.

prodigy
05-29-2017, 10:15 AM
injuries aside- the original poster said irving dominated curry during the finals both of the last 2 years. If irving is sitting out with an injury- how can you say he was dominating curry?

Not trying to be rude here but WTF? how could Irving play with a busted knee cap? lol, curry, Lebron, MJ etc would all be sitting out too. NOBODY could play with that kind of injury.

eDush
05-29-2017, 10:17 AM
so again- injuries aside- how can one say kyrie destroyed curry in 2015 if he was never out there?
Not possible but I'm sure you never make mistakes when posting :rolleyes:

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 10:19 AM
Not trying to be rude here but WTF? how could Irving play with a busted knee cap? lol, curry, Lebron, MJ etc would all be sitting out too. NOBODY could play with that kind of injury.

wow ok- how is that point even relevant. so irving could not play. Noted- but then how can the original poster say that he dominated curry that year? THATS WHAT I WAS CONTESTING

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 10:22 AM
Not possible but I'm sure you never make mistakes when posting :rolleyes:

maybe i have- but when someone else contests the point i made by mistake- ive never seen that person take so much bs from posters not involved in the original debate

GREATNESS ONE
05-29-2017, 10:25 AM
Why would you wanna see that? no matter who wins i want a great series. a sweep or an "easy" 5 game series is horrible for the game and bad to watch. Of course i want my cavs to win by any means, but i'm an NBA fan as well. Either team getting smoked is horrible.

But u seem to be a troll just wanting to insult others so i doubt u care much lol.

I'm sorry if you got offended. Ok how about this, I hope it's a competitive 5 game series. Better? :D see we can be friends too!

GREATNESS ONE
05-29-2017, 10:26 AM
wow ok- how is that point even relevant. so irving could not play. Noted- but then how can the original poster say that he dominated curry that year? THATS WHAT I WAS CONTESTING
If it makes you feel any better, I knew what you're talking about bro, I saw the post too.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 10:29 AM
If it makes you feel any better, I knew what you're talking about bro, I saw the post too.

thank you- there is sanity on PSD

Vee-Rex
05-29-2017, 10:40 AM
so again- injuries aside- how can one say kyrie destroyed curry in 2015 if he was never out there?

dude, how on earth can you say Irving should play with a split kneecap?????

(haha j/k - no, Irving didn't dominate Curry in 2015)

FlashBolt
05-29-2017, 11:17 AM
LeBron James will be the underdog (Vegas) in six NBA Finals. He was only favorites for 2. (Dallas being one of them). I don't know why people always assume he's expected to win them when it's obvious the teams he has faced outside of Dallas were just better teams.

eDush
05-29-2017, 11:59 AM
LeBron James will be the underdog (Vegas) in six NBA Finals. He was only favorites for 2. (Dallas being one of them). I don't know why people always assume he's expected to win them when it's obvious the teams he has faced outside of Dallas were just better teams.
Yet Dallas was the team that beat them which means King James prefers to be the underdog.

Now I'm kinda worried....

tredigs
05-29-2017, 12:23 PM
Probably. But in the sense that it's last years news.

But down the road, when people look back in history though, it will still stick out to many people. The only way people would ever forget thier 3-1 is if someone else falls after being up 3-1 (to take their place).

It'll just be that they lost as the 73 win team. The 3-1 thing is a shtick. And ironically it was their own grueling 1-3 comeback victory in the prior series that likely played a sizable role in their late series meltdown. The injuries and suspension were not ideal obviously, but compounded with their clear fatigue as the series wore on, it was just a tough situation for them. This season, there are no injuries of note (Iggy's still hampered but what can you do, that's par for the course for him now), and it's an underrated aspect of this matchup. This year the Warriors did not bust their *** chasing a record in the reg season, they're not coming in gassed from an ultra tough series, and their core is 100%. It's going to pay dividends for them in this series relative to last year.


LeBron James will be the underdog (Vegas) in six NBA Finals. He was only favorites for 2. (Dallas being one of them). I don't know why people always assume he's expected to win them when it's obvious the teams he has faced outside of Dallas were just better teams.

He ended up being favored for 3 of the series (the lists going around are not the closing odds, which is likely because it was sourced from a Cavs/Lebron fan I suppose). Regardless, he certainly was not always expected to win. Nobody even brings up his massive struggles in the 1st finals against San Antonio, and it's for good reason. But with the Heat, outside of maybe the last season, yes he/they were expected to win. Such is the price of being the self proclaimed chosen one and stacking the deck in a weak conference. Fortunately for him, Golden State took that burden off his back for the duration of his career.

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 12:54 PM
Both times these teams played cle looked outmatched. First game warriors didn't know what to do down the stretch an lost a 14 point lead. How much did they win by on x mas 40? Sweep or 5 games. KD is integrated now he wasn't when we blew that lead.

Bostonjorge
05-29-2017, 12:54 PM
JAVAEL McGEE!!!!!!!

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 12:54 PM
Also for all the Bron love curry per 48 #s are literally almost the exact same

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 01:11 PM
Per 48

Curry: 40 PPG
James: 38.2 PPG

Curry: .502 FG%
James: .566 FG%

Curry: 67.5 TS%
James: 65.7 TS%

Curry: .431 3FG%
James: .421 3FG%

Curry: 7.8 APG / 4.5 TO
James: 8.2 APG / 4.6 TO

Curry: 7.7 RPG
James: 9.4 RPG

WITZ
05-29-2017, 01:12 PM
The pick is in SAS picks the the warriors Rip go put your house money on the cavs :laugh:

WITZ
05-29-2017, 01:13 PM
Per 48

Curry: 40 PPG
James: 38.2 PPG

Curry: .502 FG%
James: .566 FG%

Curry: 67.5 TS%
James: 65.7 TS%

Curry: .431 3FG%
James: .421 3FG%

Curry: 7.8 APG / 4.5 TO
James: 8.2 APG / 4.6 TO

Curry: 7.7 RPG
James: 9.4 RPG

Offensively yea defensively thats another story Lebron is doing it all cant say the same for curry .

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 01:14 PM
Could not be any closer and all I've heard is how Bron is dominating the playoffs and blah blah. Y'all just haters if you don't think there's an argument to be made curry vs Bron.

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 01:15 PM
Offensively yea defensively thats another story Lebron is doing it all cant say the same for curry .

I'll give you that but Tristan Thompson is the cave best defender not lebron. Its not like he's out here winning dpoy he picks and chooses when to play defense.

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 01:18 PM
"If GS wins KD is gonna get MVP and Curry's not gonna have any finals MVPs, debate over"

But how! If Bron and curry are neck and neck numbers wise and everyone saying how dominant a postseason Bron is having curry won't win fmvp. I'm coming around to the fact that y'all are Stephen curry haters. I don't like Bron I respect him tho curry don't even get that smh

tredigs
05-29-2017, 01:21 PM
Offensively yea defensively thats another story Lebron is doing it all cant say the same for curry .

I hear this comment a lot, but the reality is that 'Bron is largely hidden defensively. He plays free safety on a weak offensive player. His help D has been very good at times this post-season, and I think it's smart for Lue to use him this way, but I have watched every Cavs game, and to laud him as a defensive stopper would be disingenuous to say the least. That's just not his role.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 01:24 PM
The pick is in SAS picks the the warriors Rip go put your house money on the cavs :laugh:

CRAP, well thats that then

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 01:31 PM
On the bright side though- Molly said warriors in 5, and she was the only one predicting cavs in 7 last year

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 01:50 PM
I hear this comment a lot, but the reality is that 'Bron is largely hidden defensively. He plays free safety on a weak offensive player. His help D has been very good at times this post-season, and I think it's smart for Lue to use him this way, but I have watched every Cavs game, and to laud him as a defensive stopper would be disingenuous to say the least. That's just not his role.

This. Like I said Tristan Thompson is there best defensive player.

tredigs
05-29-2017, 01:56 PM
This. Like I said Tristan Thompson is there best defensive player.
And they are a very dubious/average-at-best defensive team. Curry is no world beater on D, but he's very smart/effective in his role and a cog on the best D in the league. His dominance in general has definitely gone overlooked in this post-season. He is playing at an incredible level (nearly 30/6/6 50/40/90+ for ****s sake).

prodigy
05-29-2017, 02:11 PM
see we can be friends too!

I'll pass lol, don't worry man once warriors lose ya'll can go get Chris Paul too. had to

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 02:14 PM
Woj said there almost no chance Paul can go to the spurs

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 02:15 PM
And they are a very dubious/average-at-best defensive team. Curry is no world beater on D, but he's very smart/effective in his role and a cog on the best D in the league. His dominance in general has definitely gone overlooked in this post-season. He is playing at an incredible level (nearly 30/6/6 50/40/90+ for ****s sake).

Ya there's some dude on the radio who keeps yelling how the cavs are gonna win the series in 6, the rest does the cavs good and warriors bad, the cavs defense is actually better than the warriors. I'm just like dude how'd you get on air

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 02:18 PM
Curry's playing at the level he did last regular season

tredigs
05-29-2017, 02:32 PM
Curry's playing at the level he did last regular season

Probably not quite as nova as he was in the first block of games last year, but arguably better than he did to close the season (even pre injury).

The Warriors as a full core (Curry/Dray/KD/Klay) have not lost a game in months by the way. Not sure how many off the top of my head, but more than a couple.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 02:37 PM
Probably not quite as nova as he was in the first block of games last year, but arguably better than he did to close the season (even pre injury).

The Warriors as a full core (Curry/Dray/KD/Klay) have not lost a game in months by the way. Not sure how many off the top of my head, but more than a couple.

didnt they lose to utah, like the second to last game of the season? or did someone sit out?

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 02:38 PM
Woj said there almost no chance Paul can go to the spurs

Thank god, the league shouldn't allow that

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 02:45 PM
Trollol

Monta is beast
05-29-2017, 02:46 PM
didnt they lose to utah, like the second to last game of the season? or did someone sit out?

Na bunch of ppl sat that game

tredigs
05-29-2017, 02:48 PM
didnt they lose to utah, like the second to last game of the season? or did someone sit out?

I was regurgitating that from the air so I wasn't sure. Looks like Klay was out, that's it. But Draymond was playing limited minutes also. I'm looking it up now and the last loss with all 4 playing was February 4th against Sac. KD had his worst game of the year and went 2-10 and they lost by 3. So, about 4 months ago.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 02:54 PM
I was regurgitating that from the air so I wasn't sure. Looks like Klay was out, that's it. But Draymond was playing limited minutes also. I'm looking it up now and the last loss with all 4 playing was February 4th against Sac. KD had his worst game of the year and went 2-10 and they lost by 3. So, about 4 months ago.

oh i agree- and it was a winnable game- kerr took the starters out the last 4-5 minutes and let macadoo and ian clark try to lead the team in crunch time.

Vee-Rex
05-29-2017, 04:06 PM
Both times these teams played cle looked outmatched. First game warriors didn't know what to do down the stretch an lost a 14 point lead. How much did they win by on x mas 40? Sweep or 5 games. KD is integrated now he wasn't when we blew that lead.

You can probably toss anything the Cavs did during the regular season out the window at this point.

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 04:18 PM
You can probably toss anything the Cavs did during the regular season out the window at this point.

was sort of thinking the same thing. if this was a regular season series- id agree warriors should manhandle the cavs..... the post season cavs are different and the postseason lebron is very different......

im thinking the finals warriors might by historically dominant though

krazylegz
05-29-2017, 04:21 PM
cavs bench is going to dominate the warriors bench so badly that KD will be a push.....cavs in 6

MJNetsIsles
05-29-2017, 04:36 PM
Revenge! Warriors in 6.

IKnowHoops
05-29-2017, 04:42 PM
...Still, Warriors in 5. I have a $5 bet with a coworker, and neither of us give Cleveland a realistic chance, so he says 6 games and I say 5.

Lol

GREATNESS ONE
05-29-2017, 04:54 PM
I'll pass lol, don't worry man once warriors lose ya'll can go get Chris Paul too. had to

I'm not a Warriors fan? Lol ..... c'mon man, I'll make us nachos!

Don't worry, after Lebron loses this one, he's going to want to blow it up and trade Kevin Love for another Prime player.... since ya know, he doesn't have enough help :laugh2:

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 04:54 PM
Revenge! Warriors in 6.

can anybody on the cavs bench defend anybody?- thats a serious question

Dré
05-29-2017, 05:19 PM
can anybody on the cavs bench defend anybody?- thats a serious question

Cavs have the best scoring bench in these playoffs (I think they score an average of about 120 points per 100 possessions) of course they give up a ton of points too (per 100 possessions)... Warriors on the other hand have guys that are either playmakers, or defenders, or both, coming off their bench.

I don't know? Imo, It's harder to take what the Cavs' bench has managed to do thus far, mainly because they've feasted on such bad competition through these playoffs (the east was historically bad this season). Golden State's bench on the other hand is pretty much doing what it's done all year long.

I ultimately don't really think it will matter, since I believe both teams will rely heavily on their starters for much of the series. Unless this turns into San Antonio-Miami part deux, where the Spurs just annihilated the Heat in just about every game. If either team becomes a punching bag, expect the bench to take a lot more of the slack to give the starters some rest.

eDush
05-29-2017, 05:25 PM
can anybody on the cavs bench defend anybody?- thats a serious questionBun top can :nod:

likemystylez
05-29-2017, 05:42 PM
Bun top can :nod:

people say that buyt i didnt see him stopping anybody in NY