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kdspurman
04-13-2017, 02:03 PM
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All games in EST

Game 1 -- Saturday, April 15 Indiana at Cleveland, 3 p.m., ABC

Game 2 -- Monday, April 17 Indiana at Cleveland, 7 p.m., TNT

Game 3 -- Thursday, April 20 Cleveland at Indiana, 7 p.m., TNT

Game 4 -- Sunday, April 23 Cleveland at Indiana, 1 p.m., ABC

Game 5 -- Tuesday, April 25 Indiana at Cleveland, TBD

Game 6 -- Thursday, April 27 Cleveland at Indiana, TBD

Game 7 -- Saturday, April 29 Indiana at Cleveland, TBD, TNT

* If Necessary



Projected Starting Lineups:
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C: Myles Turner
PF: Thaddeus Young
SF: Paul George
SG: CJ Miles
PG: Jeff Teague



Projected Starting Lineups:

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C: Tristan Thompson
PF: Kevin Love
SF: LeBron James
SG: JR Smith
PG: Kyrie Irving


Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis


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SteBO
04-13-2017, 04:01 PM
Cavs defense has been so bad, it's the reason I think they're gonna win this series in 5 instead of a sweep....

Dade County
04-13-2017, 06:47 PM
Lbj is going to make PG some extra money.


Cav's should win in 5, but I feel that it will go 7. I remember after Hibbert had a big series against the HEAT he got that big contract; I hope Roy brought Lbj a gift or something.

Quinnsanity
04-13-2017, 06:52 PM
Cavs in five. Seems easy enough.

TylerSL
04-13-2017, 09:34 PM
Cavs in 6 because Lebron is dramatic

cmellofan15
04-13-2017, 11:54 PM
Sweeeeeeeeeep

More-Than-Most
04-14-2017, 12:08 AM
lebron needs to watch out for that GOAT PG13... after all he is known for his playoff performances lol

Cavs in 6... their defense is just so ****ing god awful PG13 better go off.

tredigs
04-14-2017, 12:16 AM
Could the Cavs be any less un impressive? I don't think so folks. Here is to losers. : )

Scoots
04-14-2017, 11:10 AM
Could the Cavs be any less un impressive? I don't think so folks. Here is to losers. : )

I was just looking at defensive ratings since mid-season ... the Cavs shocked me by being 2nd from last in the NBA in that time. What?

tredigs
04-14-2017, 12:01 PM
I was just looking at defensive ratings since mid-season ... the Cavs shocked me by being 2nd from last in the NBA in that time. What?

I was mostly joking, but yes, they really have struggled in the 2nd half, especially defensively as you mentioned. I think some of that has to do with the signing of Kyle Korver to be honest. That and regular season fatigue most likely. But this is a team that barely put together 50 wins (finished at 51). I still remember in '08 when the Warriors won 48 and did not even make the post season. I expect the Cavs to turn it on a bit, but it's tough to imagine that a team can be mediocre for half a season and then just become top contenders.

aman_13
04-14-2017, 06:19 PM
I could be wrong but i dont remember seeing a lot of high post LeBron action in the regular season. I think that was done by design to throw teams off once the playoffs start. They were a different team in the playoffs last yr from the regular season and I think they will be again this yr.

aman_13
04-14-2017, 06:22 PM
PG still gives me nightmares from last yr. For that alone I will say Cavs in 6 but I can see this as a 4 or 5 game series.

Heediot
04-14-2017, 07:21 PM
Cavs going to run over the Pacers and people will quickly forget about their troubles. Same **** different year. Last year they stumbled to finish the season and people and the media were bla bla blaing about their struggles, all for mute.

Vee-Rex
04-14-2017, 07:39 PM
I could be wrong but i dont remember seeing a lot of high post LeBron action in the regular season. I think that was done by design to throw teams off once the playoffs start. They were a different team in the playoffs last yr from the regular season and I think they will be again this yr.

Spot on. We NEVER ran Lebron (and some of our horned sets) in the post this year. It'll be different this year.

But yeah PG worries me. He's the truth.

prodigy
04-15-2017, 09:48 AM
Cavs sweep.

Its playoff time. Every players intensity will rise and that's when defense will improve. If the Cavs were playing the Heat It might go 5 or 6 because they had our digits. but not worried about the Pacers at all.

prodigy
04-15-2017, 09:58 AM
I was mostly joking, but yes, they really have struggled in the 2nd half, especially defensively as you mentioned. I think some of that has to do with the signing of Kyle Korver to be honest. That and regular season fatigue most likely. But this is a team that barely put together 50 wins (finished at 51). I still remember in '08 when the Warriors won 48 and did not even make the post season. I expect the Cavs to turn it on a bit, but it's tough to imagine that a team can be mediocre for half a season and then just become top contenders.

This is kinda flawed though. Love missed 22 games and Lebron sat quite a few others. I think people forget the playoffs are a different animal. This is where the greats come out to play. The Cavs were a lock down defensive team last year in the playoffs, They have pretty much all the same guys other then Delly. Delly didn't play much in the finals.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 10:36 AM
This is kinda flawed though. Love missed 22 games and Lebron sat quite a few others. I think people forget the playoffs are a different animal. This is where the greats come out to play. The Cavs were a lock down defensive team last year in the playoffs, They have pretty much all the same guys other then Delly. Delly didn't play much in the finals.

Love has actually been surprisingly pretty good at defense, no? From what I've seen, it's definitely improving.

ewing
04-15-2017, 10:51 AM
Spot on. We NEVER ran Lebron (and some of our horned sets) in the post this year. It'll be different this year.

But yeah PG worries me. He's the truth.

No, that's Paul Pierce

ewing
04-15-2017, 12:45 PM
Pacers in 6


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europagnpilgrim
04-15-2017, 02:08 PM
Pacers in 6


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If you are serious I like your mental toughness

Cavs are addicted to drama so at best I could see them losing in ECF for the storylines and mania, I just don't feel like PG13 can beat the big 3 the Cavs have over there 4 out of 7, they could make it interesting in each game but I just don't see it going past 5, a Lebron team seems to see saw during reg. season then in the postseason they run through the east it seems but it may change this time around but I doubt it, only time will tell

ewing
04-15-2017, 02:17 PM
If you are serious I like your mental toughness

Cavs are addicted to drama so at best I could see them losing in ECF for the storylines and mania, I just don't feel like PG13 can beat the big 3 the Cavs have over there 4 out of 7, they could make it interesting in each game but I just don't see it going past 5, a Lebron team seems to see saw during reg. season then in the postseason they run through the east it seems but it may change this time around but I doubt it, only time will tell

I think the Wiz can take out the Cavs I think the Raps got a shot too. I'm picking against them every round though

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 03:00 PM
I think the Wiz can take out the Cavs I think the Raps got a shot too. I'm picking against them every round though

You're only hope is the Bulls honestly.

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 03:00 PM
Y'all see how hype LeBron is warming up to the new Kendrick Lamar? It's over......

ChiTownPacerFan
04-15-2017, 03:42 PM
The ticky tack fouls make these games so hard to watch. I pray someday they'll drastically cut down the amount of fouls called.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 03:58 PM
The ticky tack fouls make these games so hard to watch. I pray someday they'll drastically cut down the amount of fouls called.

its both ways at this point though... if its a foul its a foul and i prefer they call it over letting the players play crap... PG13 got a few ticky tack calls for him so far

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 03:58 PM
and yea Kevin loves defense has been really good so far which is shocking.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 03:59 PM
PG13 has whined on every shot attempt about being hit.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:01 PM
thad has a gripe... that was terrible lol

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:03 PM
kevin love is everywhere lol... i swear there is 4 of him

ChiTownPacerFan
04-15-2017, 04:13 PM
How about that 3 point play for Kyrie. Teague was behind him. Just silly.

And yes, it goes both ways. I wish they would let them play, especially in the playoffs.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:14 PM
maybe the cavs still have the switch because bron/love look like men possessed lol

ChiTownPacerFan
04-15-2017, 04:16 PM
24 fouls called in that half. That's one foul every minute. This is agonizing to watch. Would you watch an NFL game with 60 penalties called.

Toxeryll
04-15-2017, 04:16 PM
Calls favoring CLE especially at the end of the first half. nothing new here

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 04:17 PM
way too many damn foul calls. Refs are just newbies. There were a few with Love that were beyond horrid.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 04:18 PM
Calls favoring CLE especially at the end of the first half. nothing new here

Maybe 2-3 foul calls but there were legit ones as well.. FT disparity is not as large as you're trying to make it seem.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 04:19 PM
Paul George is searing hot, man. Wow. I'm not sure the Pacers win a game if they can't get ahead when he's playing perfectly.

If the Cavs can hit free throws and win SOME 50/50 balls (it has been bouncing Indiana's way all game) this might be a blowout.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:36 PM
Calls favoring CLE especially at the end of the first half. nothing new here

just stop... its damn near even... PG13 was getting all the calls early

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:37 PM
lebron is entering god mode

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:38 PM
lol PG13 moving so how exactly is that the right call?

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 04:39 PM
Paul George is searing hot, man. Wow. I'm not sure the Pacers win a game if they can't get ahead when he's playing perfectly.

If the Cavs can hit free throws and win SOME 50/50 balls (it has been bouncing Indiana's way all game) this might be a blowout.

the thing is the cavs are only up 4 shooting 64 percent and bron is 8 of 9... this is flukey as well.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 04:49 PM
That's how you do a behind the back pass, Steph! Bron showing him how it's done!

tredigs
04-15-2017, 04:49 PM
I highly enjoyed that possession 10 minutes ago where there was not a foul called within a 10 second period. This is an excellent game.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 04:50 PM
How do the Warriors hide Curry? Teague keeps getting caught on switches. They need to find ways to hide him on the weakside.

Teague is getting owned defensively and can't score on the other end. He needs to step up if they are going to win.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 04:50 PM
the thing is the cavs are only up 4 shooting 64 percent and bron is 8 of 9... this is flukey as well.

Bunch of missed free throws by guys who normally make them will do that. Should be a double digit game.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 04:54 PM
LeBron literally called a play to get Teague on a switch again down low. He keeps getting caught on the strong side.

This Cavs run was inevitable.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 04:58 PM
The Pacers should of kept PG on to finish that quarter.

If they can't cut this lead with LeBron on the bench, this game is done.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 05:01 PM
Okay so LeBron is starting the 4th.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:06 PM
they should rest PG when LeBron takes his and start PG when LeBron is back.. they can't have lance be the captain going up against Bron..

jason
04-15-2017, 05:06 PM
So why isn't Lebron defending PG? Is he going to get the slander for the same thing people slander him from it lol

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jason
04-15-2017, 05:07 PM
The Cavs defense looks bad for the most of the game. Luckily the Pacers defense is worse

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FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:11 PM
LeBron should guard Lance. He's stronger than PG.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:12 PM
I'm not even mad at our defense. They're hitting contested shots no matter who shoots the ball.

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:13 PM
I'm not even mad at our defense. They're hitting contested shots no matter who shoots the ball.

They're hitting shots where you ask yourself, "why in the world did he just shoot that" before they go in.

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:15 PM
They definitely don't let you play near as much anymore in the playoffs like many say. There have been a ton of tricky tack calls and I'm sure Thomas will get a ton tomorrow just because he's little.

I remember Heat vs Hornets last year was one of the worst officiated series I've ever seen. The NBA definitely wanted to extend that series. So many weak calls for Kemba and Lin.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:16 PM
PG13 invisible in the 4th Quarter... Shocker

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:17 PM
Keep missing kyrie... let the pacers back in it **** ****

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:17 PM
lol frye is so bad at defense..

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:18 PM
I'm not even mad at our defense. They're hitting contested shots no matter who shoots the ball.

And soon as I post this our defense goes to crap.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:18 PM
honest to god I am watching the battle of the overrateds... Kyrie vs PG... Who will suck harder.

jason
04-15-2017, 05:19 PM
And soon as I post this our defense goes to crap.
Lol.. Lance is surprisingly playing well.. PG is so good too

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More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:20 PM
Lol.. Lance is surprisingly playing well.. PG is so good too

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PG has vanished in the 4th... literally gone. Has done nothing this quarter

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:21 PM
choking at the line now yo miss another PG

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:22 PM
stop ****ing shooting kyrie holy **** pass the rock damn

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:22 PM
lebron ****ing james showing kyrie how its done hard at the rim

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:23 PM
Wow

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:23 PM
pg13 0-3 1 point in the 4th... DUDES A MONSTAR

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:24 PM
honest to god I am watching the battle of the overrateds... Kyrie vs PG... Who will suck harder.

Lol dude are you drunk? PG has been crazy good.

LeBron missed two bunnies at the rim but crickets on your end.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:26 PM
LeBron MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:26 PM
Lol dude are you drunk? PG has been crazy good.

LeBron missed two bunnies at the rim but crickets on your end.

You mean the guy who has literally vanished in the 4th? Gone... You do realize basketball is 4 quarters right? Performances dont just stop after half time my man

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:27 PM
Why is LeBron so garbage at free throws now? It's like he gave the illuminati 15% of his free throw shooting to extend his prime a few more years.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:28 PM
PG13 is doing exactly what I expected... damn near 20 shots to hit 25 points under 45 pct... NOTHING IN THE 4TH.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:28 PM
LeBron MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS

now you are just being silly... my man doesnt do free throws lol

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:29 PM
You mean the guy who has literally vanished in the 4th? Gone... You do realize basketball is 4 quarters right? Performances dont just stop after half time my man

You do realize there are more aspects to basketball than scoring? He had a couple in and outs but played well in other ways. That's why it's so close right now.

tredigs
04-15-2017, 05:29 PM
The D in this game is just... wow. Any particular reason why McMillan thinks allowing switches with Teague onto Lebron with no help defense even pretending to be there is a good idea? Ditto Monta in his stead.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:30 PM
You do realize there are more aspects to basketball than scoring? He had a couple in and outs but played well in other ways. That's why it's so close right now.

:laugh: stop... just stop... he has been invisible.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:30 PM
holy **** PG13 just showed up... final minute... GIVE THE MAN THE MVP

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:31 PM
FML... PG about to hit the game winner lol... I am so scared

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:32 PM
Kyrie with two crucial late game steals but MTM is too busy staring family m dreamily at Lebron to notice.

Lebron bricks go ahead three after PG big three.

Dude is crazy to trash PG this game.

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:32 PM
Is PG about to end More than Most here lol?

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:33 PM
Kyrie with two crucial late game steals but MTM is too busy staring family m dreamily at Lebron to notice.

Lebron bricks go ahead three after PG big three.

Dude is crazy to trash PG this game.

Kyrie has been ****ing ****... THAT is why the pacers made their run... Sorry its hard to fault a guy dropping 32/13/6 on like 30 less shots taken than kyrie

jason
04-15-2017, 05:33 PM
Paul George!

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:33 PM
Why is LeBron not on George?

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:33 PM
PG scared to take the shot... NOT SURPRISING... Saw lebron and was shook

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:34 PM
CJ Miles is a dumbass

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:34 PM
IMO, Pacers played their best game.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:34 PM
IMO, Pacers played their best game.

yup... PG was great then he noticed it was the 4th quarter and ran for the hills.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:35 PM
Kyrie has been ****ing ****... THAT is why the pacers made their run... Sorry its hard to fault a guy dropping 32/13/6 on like 30 less shots taken than kyrie

LeBron > Kyrie.

But he still need him lol. Calm down.

Vee-Rex
04-15-2017, 05:36 PM
PG scared to take the shot... NOT SURPRISING... Saw lebron and was shook

You're like the reverse of lol, please.

:laugh2:

1-0 CAVS

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 05:36 PM
PG scared to take the shot... NOT SURPRISING... Saw lebron and was shook

Obviously wasn't scared, CJ is just a dumbass and didn't give it back to him.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:36 PM
LeBron > Kyrie.

But he still need him lol. Calm down.

they need kyrie from last year more than they need GOAT lebron... Not kidding... Kyrie cant be taking 27 shots and shooting that badly... This cavs team needs last years kyrie more than ever because their defense is really really really sad

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:36 PM
You're like the reverse of lol, please.

:laugh2:

1-0 CAVS

i cant stand how overrated PG is man... I just cant

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:37 PM
Kyrie had a pretty rough game. Lance and PG both had great games. Kevin Love was MIA the entire second half. Cavs need to do a better job of getting Love more shots.. Also not sure why Korver did not get more shots.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 05:37 PM
CJ should of gave it back. Everyone is going to say that but he had a good look. Didn't go down.

Great first game!

jason
04-15-2017, 05:37 PM
Good double.. Should have gave the ball back to George

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:38 PM
Kyrie had a pretty rough game. Lance and PG both had great games. Kevin Love was MIA the entire second half. Cavs need to do a better job of getting Love more shots.. Also not sure why Korver did not get more shots.

How can you say Love was MIA in the 2nd half but not PG? The coach had to check the dressing room mid 4th quarter to find my man and tell him to play... he finally showed up with 45 seconds left though so yea great game.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:39 PM
I am expecting a sweep. That was probably the best game Lance played in years. Kyrie was terrible in the 2nd half and Love was doing nothing after the 1st Q. IMO, Kyrie just hogged all the shots. J.R. should be shooting more along with Korver.. No need for 27 shots. Does he think he's westbrook?

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:39 PM
PG... 1-5 in the 4th.... 4 points.................................... If you see this person please call Indiana PD and let us know the whereabouts.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 05:40 PM
i cant stand how overrated PG is man... I just cant

Overrated? How so? This guy does it on both ends. One of the true elite players in this game.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:41 PM
How can you say Love was MIA in the 2nd half but not PG? The coach had to check the dressing room mid 4th quarter to find my man and tell him to play... he finally showed up with 45 seconds left though so yea great game.

Well if you watch the game, they were doubling him every time he got past the three point line.. lance was also playing well so he had the ball. IDK what you have against PG but he played very well.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:41 PM
Overrated? How so? This guy does it on both ends. One of the true elite players in this game.

The only thing he does on both ends is himself and he probably pulls something there as well... He is a very good player but PSD had him top 7... Double that and add 3 and you get where PG should be.. 15-20

tredigs
04-15-2017, 05:42 PM
Kyrie has been ****ing ****... THAT is why the pacers made their run... Sorry its hard to fault a guy dropping 32/13/6 on like 30 less shots taken than kyrie


Bron was 2-8 in the 4th and 2-4 from the line, 1 rebound 0 assists. No steals or blocks. You just have blinders on.

That game was hard to watch, but at least it got close and fun at the end there. Pacers probably still steal one, but they're just not talented enough overall and their coaching is horrific.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:43 PM
I'm going to the GIANNIS vs TORONTO thread. I think this is a sweep. One game for Pacers at most.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:43 PM
Bron was 2-8 in the 4th and 2-4 from the line, 1 rebound 0 assists. No steals or blocks. You just have blinders on.

That game was hard to watch, but at least it got close and fun at the end there. Pacers probably still steal one, but they're just not talented enough overall and their coaching is horrific.

bron was **** in the 4th as well.. But my man put up 32/13/6 on over 50 pct from the field with very good D on a horribly bad defensive team.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 05:46 PM
The only thing he does on both ends is himself and he probably pulls something there as well... He is a very good player but PSD had him top 7... Double that and add 3 and you get where PG should be.. 15-20

He's a top 15 player in this league easy.

tredigs
04-15-2017, 05:47 PM
bron was **** in the 4th as well.. But my man put up 32/13/6 on over 50 pct from the field with very good D on a horribly bad defensive team.

He went ghost in the 4th, not unlike PG (though PG hit the super clutch deep 3 to keep them in it). Overall they both had fantastic games, but until now (after I put the stats up) you didn't even acknowledge that 'Bron was trash in the 4th (while ragging on Kyrie/PG).

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:47 PM
bron was **** in the 4th as well.. But my man put up 32/13/6 on over 50 pct from the field with very good D on a horribly bad defensive team.

and PG put up 29/5/7... which are respectable numbers and certainly elite-level. this isn't even about embiid.. why are you not being objective at all?

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:48 PM
and PG put up 29/5/7... which are respectable numbers and certainly elite-level. this isn't even about embiid.. why are you not being objective at all?

i see red with PG now... Might be the most overrated top 20 player in the top 20.

tredigs
04-15-2017, 05:50 PM
Wonder if Teague is in McMillan's office with a blank stare on his face right now. I'd be livid if my coach hung me out to dry defensively like that. It's actually incredible 'Bron didn't put up 40+ on them with that defensive scheme. I truly don't understand what Nate is thinking.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:52 PM
32/13/6 on 50 plus pct shooting..... playoff bron has arrived.

aman_13
04-15-2017, 05:52 PM
Wonder if Teague is in McMillan's office with a blank stare on his face right now. I'd be livid if my coach hung me out to dry defensively like that. It's actually incredible 'Bron didn't put up 40+ on them with that defensive scheme. I truly don't understand what Nate is thinking.

I was perplexed as well. They didn't show any adjustment on that all game.

SteBO
04-15-2017, 05:53 PM
PG can replicate this performance, but I don't think he's gonna get enough help consistently to match what the Cavs have. Kyrie made key steals late but he was no first prize overall and Love was a no show in the second half not to mention the Cavs' FT shooting was horrendous.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:56 PM
i think the gameplan was to get lebron in foul trouble by making lebron get charges on teague.. Not sure what happened there either. PG was probably tired and maybe they thought putting lance on LeBron would only get LeBron motivated. Teague was relatively crap on offense and was designated as a SG pretty much. Undersized with loaded energy. Don't see them running that same thing next game.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 05:56 PM
i forgive all of you for the blind love in PG... He wont hit 20 points next game on over 40 pct shooting... You heard it here first.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 05:59 PM
PG can replicate this performance, but I don't think he's gonna get enough help consistently to match what the Cavs have. Kyrie made key steals late but he was no first prize overall and Love was a no show in the second half not to mention the Cavs' FT shooting was horrendous.

he was 6-8 from three. chances are not likely he can replicate it. From what I saw, PG had trouble getting into the paint all game. Kept getting zoned out there. His great shooting allowed him to score efficiently which allowed pacers to stay in the game. 6-8, though. he'll need to find other ways to score and that is why I think it'll be a sweep. Pacers don't have enough.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 06:00 PM
he was 6-8 from three. chances are not likely he can replicate it. From what I saw, PG had trouble getting into the paint all game. Kept getting zoned out there. His great shooting allowed him to score efficiently which allowed pacers to stay in the game. 6-8, though. he'll need to find other ways to score and that is why I think it'll be a sweep. Pacers don't have enough.

if you are a top 7 player in basketball you need to win at least 1 game sorry... Sixers and Embiid take the cavs to 7

jason
04-15-2017, 06:02 PM
I think this series goes to 6

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 06:04 PM
if you are a top 7 player in basketball you need to win at least 1 game sorry... Sixers and Embiid take the cavs to 7

MJ was the best player and got swept.. not sure what that has to do with anything. PG played a great game. again with the Sixers... embiid in the playoffs would be a total joke. Time to give up on him.

SteBO
04-15-2017, 06:05 PM
he was 6-8 from three. chances are not likely he can replicate it. From what I saw, PG had trouble getting into the paint all game. Kept getting zoned out there. His great shooting allowed him to score efficiently which allowed pacers to stay in the game. 6-8, though. he'll need to find other ways to score and that is why I think it'll be a sweep. Pacers don't have enough.
6-8 three's is just one part of it though. Even so, he's shot the 3 pretty damn well this year so it isn't crazy. You're right about the quality shots he was getting though and it's why I think the Cavs will win the series in 5 if not a sweep. All the Cavs have to do is send that second defender to help on PG once he gets to the key.....the last possession of the game tells the whole story.

WaDe03
04-15-2017, 06:06 PM
if you are a top 7 player in basketball you need to win at least 1 game sorry... Sixers and Embiid take the cavs to 7

No they don't lmao!

ewing
04-15-2017, 06:20 PM
i cant stand how overrated PG is man... I just cant

He's no boogie cousins.

ewing
04-15-2017, 06:23 PM
I know that Cavs are defending champs but they look to dependent on a gimmick system right now. The surround Bron with 4 shooters and you have to switch, Bron gets a mismatch and Bullies a little guy or you give up a 3. They also can't stop anyone with these lineups. I don't think they can win this year. Someone is going figure it out and then its trouble. You have to play D and the lineups they are putting out can't.

europagnpilgrim
04-15-2017, 06:41 PM
if you are a top 7 player in basketball you need to win at least 1 game sorry... Sixers and Embiid take the cavs to 7

Agreed, so based on that once upon a time Jordan got swept out, Wade/Shaq got swept out I think after winning title so they weren't top 7 players at that time though I think they were,not Shaq so much as the younger Wade was

and last before the Sixers can take a team to 7 games they have to at least get the 8th seed and the young stud they have has to at least play 60-70 games in a season to be even considered a threat because riding the bench/staying at home and playing in 30 games is not going to cut it

like I said about PG13 most fanatics/so called experts/media have him as a top 5 two way player in the entire association so to be in the top 20 might be ranking him low

now post your top 5 two way players and we will see who is in the top 10 overall of those 5

europagnpilgrim
04-15-2017, 06:50 PM
I am expecting a sweep. That was probably the best game Lance played in years. Kyrie was terrible in the 2nd half and Love was doing nothing after the 1st Q. IMO, Kyrie just hogged all the shots. J.R. should be shooting more along with Korver.. No need for 27 shots. Does he think he's westbrook?

if you ask Lebron I would bet he would say he would rather have Irving to take those shot attempts if the result was a win, thing about JR/Korver is they need Lebron/Irving to help get them most of the wide open looks, JR can get his shot better than Korver but most time he is being setup, Irving and Westbrook are the AI of today to its team, Lebron loves AI so I am sure he will be willing to live with those shots because Irving is the 1a option on that team and Lebron is still getting his numbers as well

Heediot
04-15-2017, 06:56 PM
I know that Cavs are defending champs but they look to dependent on a gimmick system right now. The surround Bron with 4 shooters and you have to switch, Bron gets a mismatch and Bullies a little guy or you give up a 3. They also can't stop anyone with these lineups. I don't think they can win this year. Someone is going figure it out and then its trouble. You have to play D and the lineups they are putting out can't.

Yeah. Warriors winning this year for sure. Even if the Cavs played as good as they did on D in the finals last year. Having to also contain KD is too much.

I think they'll get better on d, and will figure out how to mask some of their flaws in a 7 game series though. Things tend to tighten up as the series progresses and adjustments are made.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 06:57 PM
if you ask Lebron I would bet he would say he would rather have Irving to take those shot attempts if the result was a win, thing about JR/Korver is they need Lebron/Irving to help get them most of the wide open looks, JR can get his shot better than Korver but most time he is being setup, Irving and Westbrook are the AI of today to its team, Lebron loves AI so I am sure he will be willing to live with those shots because Irving is the 1a option on that team and Lebron is still getting his numbers as well

Yeah but im referring to a few plays in which some teammates could have been used more effectively but kyrie just pulls up with a jumper. There was a play in which Kyrie got his shot blocked, got the ball back and just pulls up for another shot before even dribbling.

Heediot
04-15-2017, 06:59 PM
PG has the physique to handle the physicality and grind of the playoffs. Nice game from PG.

ewing
04-15-2017, 07:01 PM
Yeah. Warriors winning this year for sure. Even if the Cavs played as good as they did on D in the finals last year. Having to also contain KD is too much.

I think they'll get better on d, and will figure out how to mask some of their flaws in a 7 game series though. Things tend to tighten up as the series progresses and adjustments are made.

I don't think lineups like Bron, love, kover, kyrie, and dwill or JR are stopping anyone. Even if you put in Frye for kover you still aren't stopping anyone. LeBron will crave people up but your d isn't going to be good. It's seems like these super shooting small lineup are what Clev is dependant on right now and I don't see them stopping anyone

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Heediot
04-15-2017, 07:02 PM
Yeah but im referring to a few plays in which some teammates could have been used more effectively but kyrie just pulls up with a jumper. There was a play in which Kyrie got his shot blocked, got the ball back and just pulls up for another shot before even dribbling.

Kyrie and Melo are guys you want as secondary options. They are fearless and can win you games in a series and want the big shot. You have to take some of the bad with the good. Just like the Olympics those two won some games down the stretch but their overall play was detrimental. Kyrie was a bad man in last years playoffs though and Melo usually kills the Olympics.

Heediot
04-15-2017, 07:05 PM
I don't think lineups like Bron, love, kover, kyrie, and dwill or JR are stopping anyone. Even if you put in Frye for kover you still aren't stopping anyone. LeBron will crave people up but your d isn't going to be good


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You might be right, I still think they cake walk to the finals and get beat by the Warriors in 5. Unless some shady **** happens to extend the series.

Jefferson is older now, he might not be able to replicate what he did last year. They do have more guys and older guys they need to cover up for this year.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 07:08 PM
Kyrie and Melo are guys you want as secondary options. They are fearless and can win you games in a series and want the big shot. You have to take some of the bad with the good. Just like the Olympics those two won some games down the stretch but their overall play was detrimental. Kyrie was a bad man in last years playoffs though and Melo usually kills the Olympics.

And they can also miss.. Not slighting Kyrie but it's fair to criticize a player for taking too many shots. Bad ones at that.

Heediot
04-15-2017, 07:13 PM
And they can also miss.. Not slighting Kyrie but it's fair to criticize a player for taking too many shots. Bad ones at that.

I didn't watch the first half, but your probably right with his shooting numbers.

ewing
04-15-2017, 07:27 PM
You might be right, I still think they cake walk to the finals and get beat by the Warriors in 5. Unless some shady **** happens to extend the series.

Jefferson is older now, he might not be able to replicate what he did last year. They do have more guys and older guys they need to cover up for this year.

I don't think they are coming out of the East. I think they have punted defense. I think Wash is coming out.

More-Than-Most
04-15-2017, 07:36 PM
Agreed, so based on that once upon a time Jordan got swept out, Wade/Shaq got swept out I think after winning title so they weren't top 7 players at that time though I think they were,not Shaq so much as the younger Wade was

and last before the Sixers can take a team to 7 games they have to at least get the 8th seed and the young stud they have has to at least play 60-70 games in a season to be even considered a threat because riding the bench/staying at home and playing in 30 games is not going to cut it

like I said about PG13 most fanatics/so called experts/media have him as a top 5 two way player in the entire association so to be in the top 20 might be ranking him low

now post your top 5 two way players and we will see who is in the top 10 overall of those 5

Lebron/KL/Butler/AD/Durant/CP3/Gia are all better 2 way players.

FlashBolt
04-15-2017, 07:47 PM
Lebron/KL/Butler/AD/Durant/CP3/Gia are all better 2 way players.

Giannis is definitely not a better two way player... His defense still needs work. He gets too aggressive defensively. His offense is exploited if you play zone. Butler is tricky. I think they're both equally as good.

Scoots
04-15-2017, 08:12 PM
A 2 seed opening at home against a 7 seed gets a 1 point win. A win is a win, but not a good sign that it's going to be a dominant performance by the 2 seed.

europagnpilgrim
04-15-2017, 08:33 PM
Lebron/KL/Butler/AD/Durant/CP3/Gia are all better 2 way players.

so who is top 10 out of those players in the NBA?

you named 7 players, that leaves 3 spots open, pretty much every guy you named would make a top 10 player list, you either have a personal vendetta against PG13 or are just being flat out funny or disrespectful(pick one)

PG13 would make the list if you added 3 more players, pretty much guaranteed because the guys you mentioned outside of Gia are pretty much a lock for best two way players(top 10 overall), now add the last 3 and there you have it, PG13 is top 10 based on two way player, that broken leg set him back some because he was a better defender before that injury and could always fill it up on offense

europagnpilgrim
04-15-2017, 08:38 PM
Yeah but im referring to a few plays in which some teammates could have been used more effectively but kyrie just pulls up with a jumper. There was a play in which Kyrie got his shot blocked, got the ball back and just pulls up for another shot before even dribbling.

I see, well of course that can be said for every game Kyrie plays in, that's why you have to just take the good and bad and hope the good outweighs it, sort of how he came up big in the Finals(rounds 1-3 as well) but was doing what you said last reg. season when people were killing him for not being a big assist guy and he went up a notch on that this year but will still take a few head scratching shots here and there, I am sure his big bro Lebron will let him know, Lue as well

Scoots
04-15-2017, 08:44 PM
The "switch" hasn't been flipped yet. In fact ... the switching on D has been a problem for over a month and it still is. The Pacers are not good so the Cavs will win ... but there were some strange coaching decisions on both sides in this game. LeBron was guarding Monte and Nate didn't get Monte moving to get LeBron to chase him. This is a series, wearing LeBron down every minute he's on the floor is critical.

ewing
04-15-2017, 09:27 PM
The "switch" hasn't been flipped yet. In fact ... the switching on D has been a problem for over a month and it still is. The Pacers are not good so the Cavs will win ... but there were some strange coaching decisions on both sides in this game. LeBron was guarding Monte and Nate didn't get Monte moving to get LeBron to chase him. This is a series, wearing LeBron down every minute he's on the floor is critical.

i don't know if there is a switch but they do have a lot of talent and two guys that can go Nova so i wouldn't count them out. That said i don't think this team is going to start shutting people down.

lol, please
04-16-2017, 03:01 AM
You might be right, I still think they cake walk to the finals and get beat by the Warriors in 5. Unless some shady **** happens to extend the series.

Jefferson is older now, he might not be able to replicate what he did last year. They do have more guys and older guys they need to cover up for this year.
Not sure how you expect the Cavaliers to get through Toronto.

lol, please
04-16-2017, 03:03 AM
Lebron/KL/Butler/AD/Durant/CP3/Gia are all better 2 way players.

Klay Thompson?

More-Than-Most
04-16-2017, 03:16 AM
Klay Thompson?

whoops... I should be banned for not saying him... FML the sixers dont deserve him.. Id easily take Klay over PG13... Probably dray as well :shrug:


edit... jesus christ i deserve to be both spanked and banned for not mentioning future sixer klay... fml. Its alright he will make portland his ***** in a few hours and put me in my place

More-Than-Most
04-16-2017, 03:20 AM
so who is top 10 out of those players in the NBA?

you named 7 players, that leaves 3 spots open, pretty much every guy you named would make a top 10 player list, you either have a personal vendetta against PG13 or are just being flat out funny or disrespectful(pick one)

PG13 would make the list if you added 3 more players, pretty much guaranteed because the guys you mentioned outside of Gia are pretty much a lock for best two way players(top 10 overall), now add the last 3 and there you have it, PG13 is top 10 based on two way player, that broken leg set him back some because he was a better defender before that injury and could always fill it up on offense

John wall/Klay/Draymond/Curry because of his offense... Cousins because of everything....Westy because of everything? PG defense does not make up for how great offensively curry is or how great defensively green is or how great westy is... Then you have klay who is a sick 2 way player and john wall... It doesnt take away from how sick offensively and rebounding wise cousins is... I am sorry i am not taking PG13 2 way play over any of these guys outside of maybe cousins and draymond and thats arguable though i think cousins is underrated on defense and green is underrated on offense


Harden is **** on defense but his offense is other worldy... 2 way play when you arent other worldly offensively isnt that great... Its great but not enough to over shadow that of guys like curry/harden/cousins etc etc etc.... So 2 way play is a bit of a misconception... I am all for defense but even I cant sit here and say well because PG is a better defender than harden I would take him over harden... that is where 2 way play becomes less relevant in my opinion. PG13 is a top 15-20 player... I am not saying other wise... he is a far cry from the ****ing 7 spot PSD has him.

europagnpilgrim
04-16-2017, 03:35 AM
John wall/Klay/Draymond/Curry because of his offense... Cousins because of everything....Westy because of everything? PG defense does not make up for how great offensively curry is or how great defensively green is or how great westy is... Then you have klay who is a sick 2 way player and john wall... It doesnt take away from how sick offensively and rebounding wise cousins is... I am sorry i am not taking PG13 2 way play over any of these guys outside of maybe cousins and draymond and thats arguable though i think cousins is underrated on defense and green is underrated on offense


Harden is **** on defense but his offense is other worldy... 2 way play when you arent other worldly offensively isnt that great... Its great but not enough to over shadow that of guys like curry/harden/cousins etc etc etc.... So 2 way play is a bit of a misconception... I am all for defense but even I cant sit here and say well because PG is a better defender than harden I would take him over harden... that is where 2 way play becomes less relevant in my opinion. PG13 is a top 15-20 player... I am not saying other wise... he is a far cry from the ****ing 7 spot PSD has him.

PG13 is capable of dropping 30-40 a game with the defense, Draymond is more known for defense and passing ability and Wall/Curry are known for putting pressure on the offensive side(1 way street), I didn't say who was the best player, I was ranking PG13 on being a legit top two way player in the league, you named a few guys outside of Dray who are better offensively, Harden defense is the reason why Klay is a better two way player, PG13 is a better two way player than Curry as is Leonard

Cousins and AD are the best bigs in the game, AD is a better two way player to me, I would take AD over Cousins but its not a huge gap at all

I prefer super offense over defense but I am basing it on the combo of offense/defense and PG13 was a top 5 two way player according to so called experts, wasn't my list and not saying its right but its the same experts who had Westbrook/Harden/Lebron/Leonard and for a hot minute I.Thomas as the main candidates for the MVP so it has to mean something if PG13 is ranked that high as a two way player

if any player in any era was considered a top 5 two way player in the entire league he would be top 10 and no less than top 12-15, easily

More-Than-Most
04-16-2017, 04:37 AM
PG13 is capable of dropping 30-40 a game with the defense, Draymond is more known for defense and passing ability and Wall/Curry are known for putting pressure on the offensive side(1 way street), I didn't say who was the best player, I was ranking PG13 on being a legit top two way player in the league, you named a few guys outside of Dray who are better offensively, Harden defense is the reason why Klay is a better two way player, PG13 is a better two way player than Curry as is Leonard

Cousins and AD are the best bigs in the game, AD is a better two way player to me, I would take AD over Cousins but its not a huge gap at all

I prefer super offense over defense but I am basing it on the combo of offense/defense and PG13 was a top 5 two way player according to so called experts, wasn't my list and not saying its right but its the same experts who had Westbrook/Harden/Lebron/Leonard and for a hot minute I.Thomas as the main candidates for the MVP so it has to mean something if PG13 is ranked that high as a two way player

if any player in any era was considered a top 5 two way player in the entire league he would be top 10 and no less than top 12-15, easily

I have no issues with this.... I can agree, I value some a tiny bit higher but nothing to split hairs over. I would have PG in my top 10-13 2 way players. I dont hate PG... I have him 15th or so in all of basketball... I just thought PSD was ****ing ******** having him top 7 or so... Hell I can live with 12-15.... I just cant see an argument for top 10.

Heediot
04-16-2017, 05:26 AM
I have no issues with this.... I can agree, I value some a tiny bit higher but nothing to split hairs over. I would have PG in my top 10-13 2 way players. I dont hate PG... I have him 15th or so in all of basketball... I just thought PSD was ****ing ******** having him top 7 or so... Hell I can live with 12-15.... I just cant see an argument for top 10.

PG is a top 15 regular season guy. Top 10 playoff guy easily, that's just how I see it. He's too inconsistent in the regular season and isn't as wired in compared to the playoffs. His ability to play in tight spots when defenses clamp up should be respected. I'd take PG over a guy like Harden in the playoffs but that's just me.

prodigy
04-16-2017, 09:13 AM
Love has actually been surprisingly pretty good at defense, no? From what I've seen, it's definitely improving.

When Love tries hes not that bad. Problem is getting him to move his feet and try. If you remember Love shut Curry down twice in game 7 last year to pretty much lock the game up for the Cavs. So the ability is there, now hes gonna try lol.

prodigy
04-16-2017, 09:20 AM
Not sure how you expect the Cavaliers to get through Toronto.

Cavs will worry about Milwaukee when the time comes.

SteBO
04-16-2017, 02:24 PM
A 2 seed opening at home against a 7 seed gets a 1 point win. A win is a win, but not a good sign that it's going to be a dominant performance by the 2 seed.
In the playoffs it's survive and advance.....style points be damned. Pacers played well and the game was theirs to steal and they couldn't pull it out.

SteBO
04-16-2017, 02:27 PM
Not sure how you expect the Cavaliers to get through Toronto.
Simple, like how they got through them last year with an average margin of victory of like 20 ppg.....

EDIT: Went back to make sure I didn't over exaggerate that, and it turns out I under exaggerated. 28.5 margin of victory.

eDush
04-16-2017, 03:25 PM
How come game 1 was so close where the Pacers barely won it with the final shot. Um did Lance blew in Lebron's ear again to distract him?!? :facepalm:

ewing
04-16-2017, 04:19 PM
Refs won't let Clev lose in round 1 but they aren't getting out of the east


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Vee-Rex
04-16-2017, 04:39 PM
Refs won't let Clev lose in round 1 but they aren't getting out of the east


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And if they do? I'll serve your crow however you like it. I hear roasted is pretty good. :D

IKnowHoops
04-16-2017, 04:45 PM
lebron is entering god mode

:laugh2:

KnicksorBust
04-17-2017, 09:56 AM
PG was on fire from 3pt. Kyrie was ice cold. Lance freaking Stephenson played a great game...AND... Cavs still won. This series is going to be smooth sailing for the Lebrons. Wake me up for the Cavs round 2 game.

FlashBolt
04-17-2017, 11:08 AM
I don't think Bucks can beat the Cavs. Reason being is that they don't have Parker. if they had Parker, I am not kidding, I think Bucks can take them to 7. This team is just loaded but they can't make up that 20 points without Parker easily.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 06:11 PM
I don't think Bucks can beat the Cavs. Reason being is that they don't have Parker. if they had Parker, I am not kidding, I think Bucks can take them to 7. This team is just loaded but they can't make up that 20 points without Parker easily.

You ain't never lied. Jabari was a scary matchup for our guys. If they had Giannis, Parker, and Middleton I could see it going 7 for sure. Next year Milwaukee might end up a top 4 seed and a threat to reach the finals if they can stay healthy the whole time.

mightybosstone
04-17-2017, 06:22 PM
Refs won't let Clev lose in round 1 but they aren't getting out of the east


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I initially thought this after the Cavs underachieved for the last month, but after this first weekend of games, I'm kind of thinking the opposite. As underwhelming as they've been, I'm not sure there's a team in that conference capable of beating them in seven games. I would have seriously considered Boston, but they may not make it out of the first round, and if they do, they'd have to face a Wizards team that I think may be better suited for the playoffs than they are.

If there's one team I think is capable of doing it, it's Washington. But the Wizards may have to beat both Boston and the Cavs without home court advantage, and I'm not sure they're capable of that. And I think that if Cleveland gets to the conference finals, they should be gelling at that point.

It's obviously still really early, but I'm not convinced that the Cavs still aren't the team to beat in the East. They just better not look past any of these teams, because this will be a harder path than they've had to face in previous years.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:25 PM
PG13 starting off hot... just wait until the 4th lol

krazylegz
04-17-2017, 07:38 PM
cavs dont step up this sorry azz defense,they are going to be in trouble down the line....seems to be story of the year with this team

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:45 PM
Lebron James might never decline... i just wish he had durant type help

mightybosstone
04-17-2017, 07:47 PM
If Lebron and Love keep playing like this, the Pacers don't have a chance.

krazylegz
04-17-2017, 07:48 PM
cavs dont step up this sorry azz defense,they are going to be in trouble down the line....seems to be story of the year with this team

as soon as i post this....cavs have the best defensive 3 mins of their playoffs thus far

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:50 PM
come on pg13 show me your leetness bro... MAKE ME A BELIEVER.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:51 PM
cavs are just hitting from everywhere.... but play no ****ing defense

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:51 PM
Stevenson carrying.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:53 PM
Korvers real value... he is teaching bron how to shoot free throws lol

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:53 PM
lebron james is on ****ing fire.... MY MAN CAN WALK ON WATER

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 07:58 PM
oh no brons out... pacers need to take advantage

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 08:29 PM
Bron is simply incredible.

The sad part about it is Indiana will never get any credit unless they win the series. Even if they push it to 7 people will blame the Cavs and trash them.

Indiana is a better team than their record.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 08:47 PM
I don't complain about fouls but we can't breathe on these dudes right now but they're playing so rough. It's frustrating.

Just gotta play through it and hope the calls swing our way.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 08:52 PM
this is the kyrie they need to win.... bron will be bron but kyrie isnt taking force stupid shots or shooting a thousand times.. The only championship hopes the cavs has is kevin loves continued energy and kyrie being the 2 way player he was in the finals

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 08:56 PM
In these first 2 games there has been 9 kevin loves out there... its insane.

mightybosstone
04-17-2017, 08:57 PM
This has got to be one of the best postseason performances I've seen out of Kevin Love. The guy has been unstoppable in this game.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 08:58 PM
lol lebron is just so unstoppable.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 09:01 PM
OH **** kyrie has a body... Just took the ankles and the soul of somebody when he crossed the **** out of them lol

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 09:03 PM
4th quarter time.... PG13 can come out firing with no pressure down big.... SHOW ME THE LEETNESS BRO

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 09:07 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=on+switch&client=ms-android-sprint-us&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitmuft56zTAhWG8CYKHcG1DNYQ_AUIBygB#imgr c=XFqdodBhpDa0rM:

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 09:13 PM
Lebron Magic Johnson up in this ***** baby

More-Than-Most
04-17-2017, 09:13 PM
yea lebron said **** that calm down pacers

Heediot
04-17-2017, 09:19 PM
4th quarter time.... PG13 can come out firing with no pressure down big.... SHOW ME THE LEETNESS BRO

PG is not one to shy away from the big moment. Even in the last game he attempted and hit a big three in the final minute. Over the course of his career he is the type of guy that wants the shot. He may have an ugly *** 0-15 on game winning shots, but it's not for a lack of trying or being scared.

FlashBolt
04-17-2017, 09:26 PM
lebron.. chucking up shots for no reason.

FlashBolt
04-17-2017, 09:28 PM
why are they playing iso?????? i don't understand what the gameplan is for the cavs.

Heediot
04-17-2017, 09:37 PM
why are they playing iso?????? i don't understand what the gameplan is for the cavs.

It's typical of the end of the game for the Cavs. See last years finals also.

Heediot
04-17-2017, 09:38 PM
lol easiest bucket of kyries career.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 09:40 PM
Bron is like Nonono get that outta here!

FOXHOUND
04-17-2017, 09:41 PM
Paul George playing as if $70M was on the line.

tredigs
04-17-2017, 09:43 PM
Paul George playing as if $70M was on the line.

Those votes are all long in. He just tries harder in the playoffs period.

We gonna get a replay of that absolutely pivotal play in this game? I did not see a foul there on Love what so ever. Game's not over if they get a quick turnover and bucket there.

Anyway, I missed most of this game. Seems like Cleveland is still struggling to close out teams though. Indy took it to them in the 4th.

ombada
04-17-2017, 09:44 PM
its the Cavs, they have been getting ghost calls all night.

tredigs
04-17-2017, 09:45 PM
Lol I guess the refs had just had enough with this game? GG Cleveland?

Heediot
04-17-2017, 09:47 PM
two blessed close calls for the cavs easing the sweat.

ombada
04-17-2017, 09:48 PM
Lol I guess the refs had just had enough with this game? GG Cleveland?

If anything they are tired of Lebron and Lue crying seemingly after every play, so they just give them what they want.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 09:55 PM
The score makes the game look closer than it was.

Cavs swept Detroit last year but all of those games were close.

Cavs weren't getting favorable calls all game and Turner was doing nothing but hacking. If he fouled Love before the ball got in then that should've been 2 fts and the ball back.

I'm satisfied with that win. Indiana probably scored more points on long ranged twos than anywhere else.

FOXHOUND
04-17-2017, 09:56 PM
Those votes are all long in. He just tries harder in the playoffs period.

We gonna get a replay of that absolutely pivotal play in this game? I did not see a foul there on Love what so ever. Game's not over if they get a quick turnover and bucket there.

Anyway, I missed most of this game. Seems like Cleveland is still struggling to close out teams though. Indy took it to them in the 4th.

Is a joke. :D

Cleveland's D is just awful and their focus in the 4th isn't much better. At some point, it becomes too late to "turn that switch". Maybe they believe in that proverbial switch a little too much. Still don't think any teams in the east can really beat them 4 times out of 7, though.

This Cleveland team kinda reminds me of the 2014 Heat, who looked old, worn down and slow after three long seasons. They cruised through the east on talent before SA murdered them. Maybe we're headed towards another Finals like that.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2017, 10:23 PM
If anything they are tired of Lebron and Lue crying seemingly after every play, so they just give them what they want.

In no way, shape, or form did the refs favor the Cavs in that game. You're lying if you say otherwise.

If it wasn't for McMillan being an idiot and having Lance guard Love one on one in the post, Pacers would've easily had way more free throw attempts. Love made 8 free throws off that in like 3 minutes of play.

FOXHOUND
04-17-2017, 10:46 PM
In no way, shape, or form did the refs favor the Cavs in that game. You're lying if you say otherwise.

If it wasn't for McMillan being an idiot and having Lance guard Love one on one in the post, Pacers would've easily had way more free throw attempts. Love made 8 free throws off that in like 3 minutes of play.

Yup, that was probably the best playoff game of Love's career. People forgot how good Love was in the post, I think lol.

jason
04-18-2017, 12:37 AM
Too bad George doesn't have more help

GoferKing_
04-18-2017, 01:39 AM
i forgive all of you for the blind love in PG... He wont hit 20 points next game on over 40 pct shooting... You heard it here first.

Yep, we heard it bro.

More-Than-Most
04-18-2017, 01:59 AM
Yep, we heard it bro.

lucky game is all... i forgot about the cavs soft defense and the fact that it was a blow out.

prodigy
04-18-2017, 10:41 AM
Shump put clamps on PG in that second half. PG was 0-5 with Shump on him. Cavs were up 19 in the 2nd half. completely out played the pacers at every aspect. But then Cleveland forced bad shots and got lazy. They really need to stop. Cut the TO's down too. They show stretches where they look like cavs from last season. then stretches where they look like the Knicks.

FlashBolt
04-18-2017, 10:59 AM
You can tell the people who didn't watch the game just yapping about FT's.. They kept sending Lance and Miles to cover and double Love in the paint. LeBron wisely kept throwing it down to him there and those guys couldn't do a thing. Every single one of those were blatant foul calls. That was just bad strategy by the Pacers. They tried to play small and it backfired.

ewing
04-18-2017, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=More-Than-Most;31571283]Lebron James might never decline

He is more of a system player

GoferKing_
04-18-2017, 11:05 AM
lucky game is all... i forgot about the cavs soft defense and the fact that it was a blow out.

Man up and own your words instead of finding excuses.

KnicksorBust
04-18-2017, 11:19 AM
Lebron James might never decline... i just wish he had durant type help

It's interesting because obviously his athleticism is a big part of what makes him special but he's got a karl malone type work ethic and his passing/bball IQ are off the charts. I thought he was just as good as ever this season. Maybe another 5 years?

IKnowHoops
04-18-2017, 01:29 PM
It's interesting because obviously his athleticism is a big part of what makes him special but he's got a karl malone type work ethic and his passing/bball IQ are off the charts. I thought he was just as good as ever this season. Maybe another 5 years?

Just as some of his supreme athletic ability starts to tail off, his jumper and 3pt shot both take a step up and he also picks up a few new tricks of the trade by playing the angles better and learning how to Euro step better so now he doesn't just run people over he is kind of starting to "James Harden" by guys. Obviously not as good as James, but with his size and speed, all he needs is just a little bit of that Harden magic. I see him getting better and better ever year. Speed wise he is still the fastest wing player in the league and he can still easily take off from the free-throw line. So as long as he is still this fast he is going to be the best player in the league because his mental game and skill set are only getting better now.

KnicksorBust
04-18-2017, 02:21 PM
Just as some of his supreme athletic ability starts to tail off, his jumper and 3pt shot both take a step up and he also picks up a few new tricks of the trade by playing the angles better and learning how to Euro step better so now he doesn't just run people over he is kind of starting to "James Harden" by guys. Obviously not as good as James, but with his size and speed, all he needs is just a little bit of that Harden magic. I see him getting better and better ever year. Speed wise he is still the fastest wing player in the league and he can still easily take off from the free-throw line. So as long as he is still this fast he is going to be the best player in the league because his mental game and skill set are only getting better now.

How long until he's 12ppg/4rpg/4apg LeBron and he's heading out the door?

ewing
04-18-2017, 03:32 PM
How long until he's 12ppg/4rpg/4apg LeBron and he's heading out the door?

Depends but his numbers right now are oblivious inflated. He is only putting up great numbers b/c he has a system built around him. The Cavs play 4 all time 3 point marks men with Bron at the 5. He winds up one on one with 6'2 PG and bullies or kicks out. The team has obliviously punted defense to make this possible and i honestly don't find either play that impressive.

europagnpilgrim
04-18-2017, 06:51 PM
Just as some of his supreme athletic ability starts to tail off, his jumper and 3pt shot both take a step up and he also picks up a few new tricks of the trade by playing the angles better and learning how to Euro step better so now he doesn't just run people over he is kind of starting to "James Harden" by guys. Obviously not as good as James, but with his size and speed, all he needs is just a little bit of that Harden magic. I see him getting better and better ever year. Speed wise he is still the fastest wing player in the league and he can still easily take off from the free-throw line. So as long as he is still this fast he is going to be the best player in the league because his mental game and skill set are only getting better now.

His supreme athletic ability has tailed off quite a bit from what we were accustomed to seeing his first 8-10yrs, when he use to do his tomahawk signature dunk his head was easily at the rim now when he dunks his head barely gets at the net for the most part, he still has a spurt every now and then like that Iggy block and where his head gets close to the rim but it is few at best, he still has his speed but his chase downs have drastically declined and that comes with losing speed/stamina and also he is just aging so he is not as reckless abandoned, which is natural given the yrs/miles

from the games I watched Lebron is loathing up the court, tired like but I will give him benefit of the doubt and say he is super pacing himself

his jumper/3pt shot will take a step back because doesn't have supreme confidence in it as we speak and he picks and chooses when to take those shots, 80-90pct of his made field goals seem to be layups/dunks from games I have watched, as you age you get worse at something that you were already not that good at, he will be able to abuse those in the post for years to come because that is his biggest asset along with the passing but as he ages I don't see where teams will be so prone to double because him scoring wont beat you its the others getting off with wide open 3's and Kyrie doing what he does

his mental game is what will help him the most out of all since he has been doing it at high level and is so accustomed to being on that so called biggest stage, I am not buying his skill set getting better, dude is what is he, a streaky perimeter/3pt shooter, a freight train going to the basket, a hell of a passer and a shaky free throw shooter, good handle but turnover prone, that will remain or regress from here on out

europagnpilgrim
04-18-2017, 06:57 PM
How long until he's 12ppg/4rpg/4apg LeBron and he's heading out the door?

I think Lebron will hang it up by that time, he is a smart player/business man

but if it does happen you wont see none of these Lebromancers on here, they will run into that rabbit hole and hibernate for life

thing is I root for Lebron and wouldn't want him to regress that bad and still play, unless he is on a super stacked team ring chasing then I would root for him since players prior have done the same, but if he is trying to be the man with those numbers I hope he hangs up the sneaks and call it a career

FlashBolt
04-19-2017, 10:43 AM
euro is such a hater. He wants LeBron to retire so bad... I don't get this guy. LeBromancers? Most of us aren't even Cavs fans. We just realize that we're watching one of the all-time greats. While you're busy being a hater, everyone is enjoying his talent.

IKnowHoops
04-19-2017, 12:55 PM
How long until he's 12ppg/4rpg/4apg LeBron and he's heading out the door?

49...seriously.

IKnowHoops
04-19-2017, 01:04 PM
His supreme athletic ability has tailed off quite a bit from what we were accustomed to seeing his first 8-10yrs, when he use to do his tomahawk signature dunk his head was easily at the rim now when he dunks his head barely gets at the net for the most part, he still has a spurt every now and then like that Iggy block and where his head gets close to the rim but it is few at best, he still has his speed but his chase downs have drastically declined and that comes with losing speed/stamina and also he is just aging so he is not as reckless abandoned, which is natural given the yrs/miles

from the games I watched Lebron is loathing up the court, tired like but I will give him benefit of the doubt and say he is super pacing himself

his jumper/3pt shot will take a step back because doesn't have supreme confidence in it as we speak and he picks and chooses when to take those shots, 80-90pct of his made field goals seem to be layups/dunks from games I have watched, as you age you get worse at something that you were already not that good at, he will be able to abuse those in the post for years to come because that is his biggest asset along with the passing but as he ages I don't see where teams will be so prone to double because him scoring wont beat you its the others getting off with wide open 3's and Kyrie doing what he does

his mental game is what will help him the most out of all since he has been doing it at high level and is so accustomed to being on that so called biggest stage, I am not buying his skill set getting better, dude is what is he, a streaky perimeter/3pt shooter, a freight train going to the basket, a hell of a passer and a shaky free throw shooter, good handle but turnover prone, that will remain or regress from here on out

Yeah, then you just don't know what you are talking about then. If you have watched him over the years, you know that he has consistently picked up charges when going to the hoop full speed. People know that is the only way to stop him. This year he has really developed his own Euro step and he plays the angles much better. He has learned a few things and improved his game to make up for athletic ability tailing off. Yeah he is not the athlete he was at 25, but he is still the best athlete at his size in the NBA by far. The size, speed, and power are still not close to being matched by anyone so as long as his 3pt shot get better ( oh yeah he shot it as well as Steph curry for most of the year) and he keeps picking up new tricks here and there, he is going to kill.

At the end of the day, he is going to blow the all-time scoring record out of the water. His statistical resume will be the GOAT.

nastynice
04-19-2017, 11:25 PM
Cleveland looks like the best team in the league right now. Better than golden state and San Antonio

Not only that, Cleveland currently looks better than golden state has anytime this year. Dubs gotta up their game, cabs are locked in

Heediot
04-20-2017, 08:37 AM
Cleveland looks like the best team in the league right now. Better than golden state and San Antonio

Not only that, Cleveland currently looks better than golden state has anytime this year. Dubs gotta up their game, cabs are locked in

Offensively you have a case, but on defense it's been pretty bad. They have blown a big lead in the 4th q last game and a solid lead in the other. They need to step up on defense and close out their opponents better.

Vee-Rex
04-20-2017, 08:48 AM
Cleveland looks like the best team in the league right now. Better than golden state and San Antonio

Not only that, Cleveland currently looks better than golden state has anytime this year. Dubs gotta up their game, cabs are locked in

You're finally talkin' some sense! :P

I got Indiana winning tonight. I think if they lose and go down 0-3 then they'll get swept. 'Bron would want to close 'em out.

kobe4thewinbang
04-20-2017, 03:00 PM
Indiana Pacers coach is trash. They should've never fired Vogel. Why you putting lil' Lance Stephenson on Kevin Love? Is 27 points by Love not enough reason to scrap that idea? How do you even think that is a good idea to start with? Coach be telling Lance to calm down, but wouldn't you be frustrated if you're that small being told to guard Kevin Love? You see Larry Bird shaking his head in the crowd--hello?! You're the guy running the team! So you're really shaking your head at yourself.

Never mind the other defense, or lack thereof, giving Kyrie Irving like a whole foot of vision to spot up for 3s. And there is no point in having 3 doe-eyed Pacers "guarding" LeBron as he comes steamrolling to the basket, leaving like three other Cavaliers wide open, then looking confused about it and bickering as to what happened.

If I'm Paul George, I'm not a Pacer come next October.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 07:52 PM
If it wasnt for PG the pacers would be up 30 right now... Pacers carrying the top 7 player in the world.... As I speak PG13 fouling james for the 3 point play :pity:

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 07:58 PM
PG talking **** because they are up 14... the wheels will come off when bron enters god mode... PG is on borrowed time.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:12 PM
pg13 can eat ****

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:12 PM
cavs defense :pity:

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:13 PM
the game isnt over... Not while there is that goat james on the floor

DanG
04-20-2017, 08:14 PM
If it wasnt for PG the pacers would be up 30 right now... Pacers carrying the top 7 player in the world.... As I speak PG13 fouling james for the 3 point play :pity:

21/9/5 at half not good enough?

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:16 PM
21/9/5 at half not good enough?

when i said it lebron was covering him and he was like 0 for 6.... he then scored 21 in this quarter.... When i said he was **** he was ****... he is hot right now but this game isnt over... PG13 of the 4th will arrive and by arrive he will vanish and lebron james will lead his team back... cavs win.

Vee-Rex
04-20-2017, 08:24 PM
I predicted this would be a loss.

1. Pacers are amped and playing with far more energy and hitting EVERYTHING.

2. We can't breathe on them or play with any sort of physicality.

3. PG is on fire. 23 in the 1st half and I don't remember him scoring once in the paint. All long jump shots and free throws.

4. Cavs missing tons of open shots and turning the ball over.

Just gotta burn the tape on this one and move into game 4.

WaDe03
04-20-2017, 08:33 PM
Man I really hope we get a Cavs vs Bulls ECF

DanG
04-20-2017, 08:34 PM
I predicted this would be a loss.

1. Pacers are amped and playing with far more energy and hitting EVERYTHING.

2. We can't breathe on them or play with any sort of physicality.

3. PG is on fire. 23 in the 1st half and I don't remember him scoring once in the paint. All long jump shots and free throws.

4. Cavs missing tons of open shots and turning the ball over.

Just gotta burn the tape on this one and move into game 4.

Idk most of the shots Cavs took looked well contested to me. Indy is hitting their shots well, but the Cavs play no defense.

Vee-Rex
04-20-2017, 08:46 PM
Kyrie is stinking it up badly.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:53 PM
Here we go lol... PG13 and the chicken bone of doom

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:54 PM
Boom goes the dynamite... Just like that 10 points.. KEEP SHOOTING PG

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 08:57 PM
Lebron has no confidence at all in his FT shooting.. it looks terrible.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:00 PM
boom lebron with the ****ing 3... showing number 7 best player in the NBA per PSD who the ****ing boss is.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:00 PM
lol i dont think PG had a point in this quarter xD

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:01 PM
lebron the ****ing king james baby

archdevil84
04-20-2017, 09:01 PM
the pacers offense is so bad when PG is not on fire

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:02 PM
the pacers offense is so bad when PG is not on fire

I will rephrase for you... the pacers offense is so bad when PG isnt hot because he becomes a chucker

zn23
04-20-2017, 09:07 PM
And now we have a game... Cavs started hit 7 3s in the 3rd quarter. 4 by LeBron.

Paul George came up really small in the 3rd

Vee-Rex
04-20-2017, 09:09 PM
We lose by 50 without LeBron. Seriously. JFC this is greatness.

archdevil84
04-20-2017, 09:12 PM
rough foul on bron

zn23
04-20-2017, 09:19 PM
Any team that gives Paul George a max contract, would be making a huge mistake.

tredigs
04-20-2017, 09:21 PM
May or may not have the Cavs in-play moneyline at 25:1 in this game.

archdevil84
04-20-2017, 09:24 PM
holy **** lebron lol! did somebody say his decline was starting to show?

mikekhelxD
04-20-2017, 09:26 PM
Lol at this choke by the Pacers. Wtf? Lolol

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:30 PM
lebron is possessed.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:32 PM
honestly ****ing with his free throw shot from him and korver is making things worse.

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:32 PM
Lebron ****ing james holy ****

archdevil84
04-20-2017, 09:33 PM
come on lebron, gotta make those FT's

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:33 PM
what we are witnessing tonight from James is amazing... it honestly is.

FlashBolt
04-20-2017, 09:34 PM
Cavs start winning with Kyrie and Love on the bench... LeBron carrying bench players right now.

Vee-Rex
04-20-2017, 09:35 PM
Omg bron stop it man!

More-Than-Most
04-20-2017, 09:35 PM
No love... No kyrie... just lebron but please keep trying to argue anyone else for MVP.. Nobody brings more value then this guy.