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aman_13
02-20-2017, 12:48 AM
Omg!

Via Woj

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02-20-2017, 12:48 AM
According to Woj

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 12:48 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 6m6 minutes ago
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Sacramento has agreed to trade DeMarcus Cousins to the New Orleans Pelicans, league source tells @TheVertical.
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Wow

aman_13
02-20-2017, 12:49 AM
The New Orleans Pelicans and Sacramento Kings have reached an agreement on a trade that would send DeMarcus Cousins to New Orleans, reports Adrian Wojnarowki of The Vertical.

KobeOwnSU
02-20-2017, 12:49 AM
**** Mitch! **** Jim! They wouldn't trade Ingram for Cousins??? You do that ****ing trade everytime! ****ing dumb muther****ers!!

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Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 12:53 AM
**** Mitch! **** Jim! They wouldn't trade Ingram for Cousins??? You do that ****ing trade everytime! ****ing dumb muther****ers!!

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I saw they didn't want to give him up and I just shook my damn head smfh

kdspurman
02-20-2017, 12:54 AM
**** Mitch! **** Jim! They wouldn't trade Ingram for Cousins??? You do that ****ing trade everytime! ****ing dumb muther****ers!!

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Insane man

LOb0
02-20-2017, 12:55 AM
Are you ****ing serious that the Celtics couldn't top this offer? I am royally PISSED.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-20-2017, 12:56 AM
Kings got hosed[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

YAALREADYKNO
02-20-2017, 12:56 AM
Damn what a move for the pelicans

GREATNESS ONE
02-20-2017, 12:57 AM
AD and Cousins are going to own the glass and paint.

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 12:57 AM
I've never been speechless before about a trade. I just don't even know what to say about it. The Kings suck for that. Even if Cousins say he won't do an extension for another team you keep trying until you get cousins and yourself to a common ground and get a good trade. This move is so damn bad.

J4KOP99
02-20-2017, 12:58 AM
This cannot be right. That's all they could get????

KobeOwnSU
02-20-2017, 12:58 AM
This has to be fake. The Kings are going to pull back on this right??? Buddy ****ing Hield, Langston Galloway, Tyrese Evans, and a first?? I couldn't pull that **** in 2K!!!

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KobeOwnSU
02-20-2017, 12:59 AM
Stern should ****ing nix this trade for basketball reasons.

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KingPosey
02-20-2017, 01:00 AM
I've defended and stuck it through with this ****ing dumpster fire my entire life. What a ****ig joke. I can say I'm done now.

still1ballin
02-20-2017, 01:00 AM
Veto that ****

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:00 AM
Great trade for the Pels. Cousins and Davis on the same team. Damn! Watch out West!!

kdspurman
02-20-2017, 01:01 AM
Caspi is going to Pelicans too I think

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:01 AM
And lol at the Kings

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:01 AM
Buddy is averaging 8PPG? This trade is all time bad.

JLynn943
02-20-2017, 01:01 AM
Stern should ****ing nix this trade for basketball reasons.

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I hope so.

I liked Hield coming out, but this return is trash.

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 01:03 AM
Not fake if woj is reporting it. Wow, pelicans with the robbery.. might be champs TBH.. this is insane.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:04 AM
Not fake if woj is reporting it. Wow, pelicans with the robbery.. might be champs TBH.. this is insane.

Lets slow that down.

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 01:05 AM
So you got the best center and pf in the nba on the same team and an above average pg who can shoot, pass and play defense. If there is one team that can upset the Warriors it's these guys.

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 01:06 AM
Lets slow that down.

who can stop these two in the paint? warriors dont want the pelicans.. its over for them if they see this team. Cavs can't stop the Pelicans either. Love is too soft against this team.

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:07 AM
Pels better make sure they get that 8th seed haha.

JLynn943
02-20-2017, 01:07 AM
Not fake if woj is reporting it. Wow, pelicans with the robbery.. might be champs TBH.. this is insane.

They're taking a gamble he re-ups with them, but if the buy in is that cheap, why not?

Demarcus is extremely loyal. New Orleans just bet on him, and I think he'll return the favor and sign with them.

GiantsSwaGG
02-20-2017, 01:07 AM
Where's Evens&Cousinsduo at?

JLynn943
02-20-2017, 01:08 AM
Where's Evens&Cousinsduo at?

Tyreke is back I guess? He'll have to return to hyping him.

Sadds The Gr8
02-20-2017, 01:09 AM
Cant believe it only took one 1st rounder

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GiantsSwaGG
02-20-2017, 01:10 AM
Is Cousins and Davis a good fit? They're style of play are almost the same

5ass
02-20-2017, 01:10 AM
Pelicans might be my new favourite team in the west. Cousins and AD will be a destructive force. Too much talent and versatility for it not to work. What a steal. Obviously teams weren't willing to give up much. Henning deserves to be fired for not giving up Fournier, Vucevic and a first.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-20-2017, 01:11 AM
Cousins and AD gonna bring the old school big man domination back to the league...meanwhile in Sactown, somebody slammed that panic button real hard!

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:11 AM
Is Cousins and Davis a good fit? They're style of play is almost the same

I think they fit. Both are very versatile.

bootleg42
02-20-2017, 01:11 AM
The Kings may have the least intelligent management in the league, right up there with the Nets and Knicks (and oh boy.....you have to be real stupid to be dumber and more incompetent than Knicks owner James Dolan).

BUT this is a great trade for the league!!! I mean the NBA is boring since we all know the finals will just be the Cavs and Warriors having a three point contest with the refs doing their best to squeeze extra games in that serious.

Now the Pelicans have two legit beasts inside, and you never know.......they may not be done (a trade to get Carmelo Anthony maybe??). Now we can at least say that the Pelicans can make some noise in the playoffs.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:12 AM
Is Cousins and Davis a good fit? They're style of play is almost the same

There is no guarding this lol. They will be unstoppable.

Sadds The Gr8
02-20-2017, 01:12 AM
Is Cousins and Davis a good fit? They're style of play is almost the same
It should be but still dunno if that team is good right now. I dont trust the coach/roster, but the good news is they have his brid rights so they can build a sick team for the future.

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FlakeyFool
02-20-2017, 01:13 AM
This is worse then the VC trade

GiantsSwaGG
02-20-2017, 01:13 AM
There is no guarding this lol. They will be unstoppable.

But at the same time they can be in the way of each other. Reminds of how horrible Melo and Amare were together

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:14 AM
who can stop these two in the paint? warriors dont want the pelicans.. its over for them if they see this team. Cavs can't stop the Pelicans either. Love is too soft against this team.

They have a lot of holes to fill before we start talking title. And I do like the fit but this has to mesh.

GiantsSwaGG
02-20-2017, 01:15 AM
It should be but still dunno if that team is good right now. I dont trust the coach/roster, but the good news is they have his brid rights so they can build a sick team for the future.

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They'll need shooters. The was the only thing Hield was good at. I still think the Pels miss the playoffs but they do become more attractive especially if they're able to resign Cousins

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:16 AM
But at the same time they can be in the way of each other. Reminds of how horrible Melo and Amare were together

That is a beyond horrible comparison lol. AD has a wet midrange and can get to the rim. Good luck doubling Boogie or AD now. You will pay dearly.

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:17 AM
Pels need more help but watch our West if they can retain Cousins.

Wade n Fade
02-20-2017, 01:18 AM
Has to be a 3 team trade or an even bigger exchange? No Asik to Sac? No Jrue Holiday? Vivek is the same idiot that wanted to do 5 on 4 basketball. He might be great in his business, but not in sports. Why can't people take pages from Micky Arison's book? Hire a basketball mind and hands off the team. Vlade Divac isn't the right basketball mind anyways lol.

JLynn943
02-20-2017, 01:20 AM
New Orleans is getting a high energy guy off the bench who can hit threes in Casspi. Good move on their part to include him. He fell out of favor here, but he should fit very well there.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:20 AM
Im lowkey kinda happy with this.

JLynn943
02-20-2017, 01:22 AM
Has to be a 3 team trade or an even bigger exchange? No Asik to Sac? No Jrue Holiday? Vivek is the same idiot that wanted to do 5 on 4 basketball. He might be great in his business, but not in sports. Why can't people take pages from Micky Arison's book? Hire a basketball mind and hands off the team. Vlade Divac isn't the right basketball mind anyways lol.

I'm confident I could have made a better trade. Sadly Vivek has final say, and he's a total moron.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:22 AM
Just when I thought the Kings owner couldn't get any stupider. He's legit the dumbest owner I've ever seen.

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:22 AM
I'm just glad he's still in the West.

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 01:23 AM
One of the worst trades in basketball history on paper. My ****ing god I'm speechless.

5ass
02-20-2017, 01:23 AM
They have Jrue, Cousins and AD. Its easy to build around them. Just give them some 3&D wings.

JLynn943
02-20-2017, 01:24 AM
Just when I thought the Kings owner couldn't get any stupider. He's legit the dumbest owner I've ever seen.

He has used up all the good will he earned saving the team. He's an idiot and needs to stop getting involved.

KobeOwnSU
02-20-2017, 01:25 AM
One of the worst trades in basketball history on paper. My ****ing god I'm speechless.
Don't limit this to basketball. This is one of the worst trades in American sports history.

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Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:25 AM
Jrue
Moore
Hill
AD
DMC

Not bad.

We also have Terrence Jones and Montajunas.

Trade Ajinca for a wing shooter.
IM glad we got Casspi but I did want Ben McLemore

bootleg42
02-20-2017, 01:26 AM
Just when I thought the Kings owner couldn't get any stupider. He's legit the dumbest owner I've ever seen.

New York Knicks owner James Dolan is WAY MORE less intelligent, but yeah.....the Kings ownership is horrible.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:26 AM
Don't limit this to basketball. This is one of the worst trades in American sports history.

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Like Swason, Blair, and Inciarte for Shelby Miller?

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:27 AM
He has used up all the good will he earned saving the team. He's an idiot and needs to stop getting involved.

It's been a ****ing clown show since he started. Dumb move after dumb move. How many coaches has this idiot hired? This moron was suggesting teams should do cherry picking.

Everyone go find the video when he drafted Nik Stauskas to see what a complete idiot you're dealing with.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:28 AM
New York Knicks owner James Dolan is WAY MORE less intelligent, but yeah.....the Kings ownership is horrible.

Dude is far worse than Dolan. Dolan would never had made this trade.

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 01:29 AM
Don't limit this to basketball. This is one of the worst trades in American sports history.

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That's absolutely what I meant but I didn't want to look like I'm melting down, even though I am.

I just don't get how smart people and basketball minds can do this and think its a good thing. It's baffling. It's mind blowing. JESUS.CHRIST.

Teeboy1487
02-20-2017, 01:30 AM
**** Mitch! **** Jim! They wouldn't trade Ingram for Cousins??? You do that ****ing trade everytime! ****ing dumb muther****ers!!

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:(:(:(

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 01:31 AM
Like Swason, Blair, and Inciarte for Shelby Miller?

Yeah.

Knick_Fever
02-20-2017, 01:32 AM
Wow is cousins that bad of a team cancer? That kings couldnt even get multiple 1st rd picks? Couldnt even get Ingram?? I think this trade says more about the reality of his character than his talent.

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 01:33 AM
The kings needed to trade Cousins to finally rebuild and get top picks in the coming years. That said you don't trade the best center in the nba at 26 and in his prime for a 8ppg scorer and a mid 1st rounder.

KobeOwnSU
02-20-2017, 01:34 AM
The kings needed to trade Cousins to finally rebuild and get top picks in the coming years. That said you don't trade the best center in the nba at 26 and in his prime for a 8ppg scorer and a mid 1st rounder.
They will throw a parade in Sacramento if that pick is in the mid first. More then likely mid to late 20s now.

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Wade n Fade
02-20-2017, 01:34 AM
Wow is cousins that bad of a team cancer? That kings couldnt even get multiple 1st rd picks? Couldnt even get Ingram?? I think this trade says more of about his character than his talent.

I think that's overblown. Coach K defended his olympic big man: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18309983/mike-krzyzewski-duke-blue-devils-coach-defends-demarcus-cousins-john-calipari-podcast

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:34 AM
Wow is cousins that bad of a team cancer? That kings couldnt even get multiple 1st rd picks? Couldnt even get Ingram?? I think this trade says more of about his character than his talent.

THe Kings team is a cancer, their management is one of the worst

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:36 AM
No one can tell me that the Nets 2018 pick, Jaylen Brown and more wasn't on that table which is a far better deal than what they got. I wouldn't even be shocked if the Kings turned down the Celtics offering the 2017 Nets pick.

Knick_Fever
02-20-2017, 01:36 AM
Of course he's gonna say that.

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:36 AM
I guess the only question for the Pels now is if they can retain him.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:38 AM
I guess the only question for the Pels now is if they can retain him.

Considering they can offer him 200+ million and no one else can, I'd say for the garbage they gave up for him, it was more than worth the risk

Knick_Fever
02-20-2017, 01:38 AM
They might be the worst but cant ignore the fact that teams arent willing to give up much for him. Teams know.

PhillySportFan
02-20-2017, 01:38 AM
This has to be vetoed. That's almost getting Demarcus Cousins for free. How is this going to help the Kings present or future? It's NOT! 100% veto.

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 01:39 AM
I guess the only question for the Pels now is if they can retain him.

Cousins pretty much lives over there so I don't see why he won't resign. Alabama is like right there and he can visit home more often

dhopisthename
02-20-2017, 01:40 AM
I think Cousins has been the most overrated player in the league, but wow this is one of the worst trades in nba history.

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 01:41 AM
Dude, this Kings management just solidified themselves as the worst franchise in any sport with this trade. What the hell is going on with Cousins? Did he have sexual contact with the owner's wife? Did Shaq at least have some input on this? He can't possibly have agreed to this even though he's a minority owner. I'm incredibly shocked that that's all they wanted. They could have easily gotten much better offers or another All-star in return.. I'm telling you, these two are going to be so dominant in the front-court that it would be impossible to defend. Twin-towers on steroids.

dhopisthename
02-20-2017, 01:42 AM
This has to be veto'd. That's almost getting Demarcus Cousins for free. How is this going to help the Kings present or future? It's NOT! 100% veto.

the league can't veto trades. It only vetoed the Cp3 to the lakers trade because they didn't have an owner.

5ass
02-20-2017, 01:45 AM
They should trade Asik, Jones and Ajinca for Allen Crabbe. He's overpaid, but a good shooter. Portland would get a big man who can play defense and back up Nurkic. Something like this
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z3j8d2o
Pelicans get Crabbe
Blazers get Asik, Jones and an expiring

Raps18-19 Champ
02-20-2017, 01:46 AM
Celtics shouldve jumped on that with this years Brooklyn pick and Amir Johnson (plus other to make salary work).

Then they should have traded like Bradley and the Nets first next year for Butler

C- Cousins
PF- Horford
SF- Crowder
SG- Butler
PG- Thomas

I mean they plan to do something with the picks right?

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:46 AM
We are looking to trade Terrence Jones now, as his camp and our team mutually agreed to part ways.
Trade him for a shooting 2 and then I am happy.
Or with the way the Kings make deals, lets trade him to Sac and get their first round pick.

Teeboy1487
02-20-2017, 01:46 AM
No one can tell me that the Nets 2018 pick, Jaylen Brown and more wasn't on that table which is a far better deal than what they got. I wouldn't even be shocked if the Kings turned down the Celtics offering the 2017 Nets pick.

No question about it. The fact they traded him in conference is also bizarre. I'm so happy for the City of New Orleans. I can catch a few games now.

zn23
02-20-2017, 01:48 AM
I don't think their(AD and Cousins) playing styles are compatible. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

aman_13
02-20-2017, 01:48 AM
Considering they can offer him 200+ million and no one else can, I'd say for the garbage they gave up for him, it was more than worth the risk

No doubt.




Cousins pretty much lives over there so I don't see why he won't resign. Alabama is like right there and he can visit home more often

Well that's certainly a plus.

I'm sure he is loving the idea of playing with Davis as well. They are going to straight up dominate teams inside.

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 01:49 AM
everyone knows warriors are trying to avoid the pelicans right now. Draymond green is rendered useless against these two. Not to mention that we're probably going to see AD and Cousins play the best defense of their lives. They need to surround this team with shooters. Kings need to self-destruct and the owner should rethink his investment.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:50 AM
I don't think their playing styles are compatible. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Why dont you think their styles are compatible? Just curious

5ass
02-20-2017, 01:50 AM
Too bad they have some bad contracts on that roster already. They still have the stretch provision though. I'm excited to watch them play.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:50 AM
Keeping Jrue and only surrendering 1 1st rounder is my favorite parts about this trade.

mrblisterdundee
02-20-2017, 01:51 AM
who can stop these two in the paint? warriors dont want the pelicans.. its over for them if they see this team. Cavs can't stop the Pelicans either. Love is too soft against this team.

Wasn't that nice of Sacramento to hand New Orleans the best front court in the NBA (ever?) for a nickel and dime?

thephoenixson28
02-20-2017, 01:51 AM
Phoenix was one of the teams that was also talked about, and I know for sure they could've put a better package than that.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:52 AM
AD and DMC gonna be the new NBA's version of TD and Robinson

LOb0
02-20-2017, 01:52 AM
They need to get a real coach in there and dump Alvin Gentry. He is terrible.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-20-2017, 01:53 AM
Where's David Stern when you need him?

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:54 AM
Just spoke to Anthony Davis. HUGE smile when talking about the trade that is expected to bring DeMarcus Cousins to New Orleans. "This is an unbelievable weekend. All-Star MVP and now getting Boogie. It doesn't get better than this." AD said he hasn't heard anything official from management or talked to Cousins yet.

Jeff Goodman ESPN

Philly Hammer
02-20-2017, 01:55 AM
It's been a ****ing clown show since he started. Dumb move after dumb move. How many coaches has this idiot hired? This moron was suggesting teams should do cherry picking.

Everyone go find the video when he drafted Nik Stauskas to see what a complete idiot you're dealing with.The Sixers got Stauskas literally for free and a 1st round pick for him.

ewing
02-20-2017, 01:56 AM
I don't think their(AD and Cousins) playing styles are compatible. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

i think Cousins has the game to fit. I din't think he has the style. Dude seems iike he always needs to have the ball in his hands to me.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 01:56 AM
Guess we arent getting Okafor

Ty Fast
02-20-2017, 02:00 AM
Pat Riley couldnt pull something off. Winslow is better than Hield and we could have added a 1st.

mrblisterdundee
02-20-2017, 02:00 AM
Speaking of good fit, Holiday should benefit significantly from this, with more open shots and an additional elite target for his passes.

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 02:00 AM
i also understand the King's hurry in trading Cousins and that is why I said OKC should have traded Westbrook if he didn't resign before this season started. Kings missed that window and now gave Cousins up in desperation. Went from having the best offensive big man in the game to now a team with role players. Lakers did the right thing not trading Ingram. Too much upside in a risk that Cousins might not resign.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 02:00 AM
Pat Riley couldnt pull something off. Winslow is better than Hield and we could have added a 1st.

I'm going to guess the owner of the Kings liked the name "Buddy".

zn23
02-20-2017, 02:01 AM
Two of the top 6 players in usage% in the league are now on the same team...

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 02:04 AM
just in time for the playoffs, too. Looks like someone will get bumped off (probably denver). Would be interesting to see how they mesh but they're just too good to not win games just by talent alone. AD can be an elite defensive center with this offensive load off his back. same for DMC. Might want to look at getting CP3 next season.

FlashBolt
02-20-2017, 02:06 AM
Two of the top 6 players in usage% in the league are now on the same team...

doesn't matter. They will get easier shots, more points per possession, shooters will be more open than ever, defense should improve theoretically. There is no reason for the Pelicans not to take this trade. They gave up relatively nothing for a chance to be a top team in the West for two years. If it all fails, I'm sure there are many players lining up willing to play with AD.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 02:07 AM
just in time for the playoffs, too. Looks like someone will get bumped off (probably denver). Would be interesting to see how they mesh but they're just too good to not win games just by talent alone. AD can be an elite defensive center with this offensive load off his back. same for DMC. Might want to look at getting CP3 next season.

Boogie has picked up some bad habits I'm sure and Gentry is not the person to fix those.

Tell me a Pelicans vs Warriors first round match up wouldn't be awesome tho.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 02:08 AM
If North Carolina doesnt sign that bill,none of this happens

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 02:08 AM
Boogie has picked up some bad habits I'm sure and Gentry is not the person to fix those.

Tell me a Pelicans vs Warriors first round match up wouldn't be awesome tho.

We need to get a decent wing shooter when we trade Jones, then we will be ok

Sadds The Gr8
02-20-2017, 02:09 AM
The Kings told the Lakers that without Ingram, they weren't interested. Sources said talks didn't get much farther than that

-Ramona Shelburne

aman_13
02-20-2017, 02:10 AM
The Kings told the Lakers that without Ingram, they weren't interested. Sources said talks didn't get much farther than that

-Ramona Shelburne

That's just crazy.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 02:11 AM
We need to get a decent wing shooter when we trade Jones, then we will be ok

I just wish they had a coach. Gentry is one of those that doesn't hold players accountable, doesn't care about defense, and is just generally horrible when it comes to strategy.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 02:13 AM
-Ramona Shelburne

I'm going to defend the Lakers here. You don't trade for an Boogie when: You're trying to tank and keep your draft pick, and you don't have a team good enough to surround Boogie with thus risking him leaving. And you'd lose Ingram in the process.

They made the correct choice here.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:14 AM
THAT ****ING PICK SWAP YO... Great day to be a sixer fan

kobe4thewinbang
02-20-2017, 02:15 AM
My buddy at work gave me the news. He said "dude you're gonna flip when you hear this" and I did. What a weird move. I thought they were going to trade him, despite the media rumors and defiance. About the only good move the front office has made. I still feel bad for Cousins not being a winner yet. I don't know if him and AD will work well together, but it definitely makes me feel better for the Pelicans if it does work out.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:15 AM
**** Mitch! **** Jim! They wouldn't trade Ingram for Cousins??? You do that ****ing trade everytime! ****ing dumb muther****ers!!

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:laugh:

the dumbest front office in basketball man.. No offense... So ****ing stupid.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:17 AM
Yo... AD and Cousins with Holiday? This team is gonna be nice real quick.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 02:17 AM
I just wish they had a coach. Gentry is one of those that doesn't hold players accountable, doesn't care about defense, and is just generally horrible when it comes to strategy.

Meh, if he cant make these two work, he wont be with us next season

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:18 AM
The rape though... WTF is sac thinking? Buddy Hield and a first? No ****ing wonder we cant trade OKA if that what cousins went for.... Hell at that price we might have to give a team simmons to make them take OKA xD

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:19 AM
The Sixers got Stauskas literally for free and a 1st round pick for him.

:laugh:

When all else fails call the kings it seems.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-20-2017, 02:20 AM
I dont have a problem with the Lakers not going after him. They need to tank. The playoff teams that have assets shouldve though. Pacers, Celtics, OKC, have guys like 23 and under while giving up pivks for him

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:21 AM
-Ramona Shelburne

jesus ****ing christ LA... Why? Seriously... I am an ingram fan but you have a chance for cousins and Ingram is what stops you? Really? On top of that ingram has been dreadful... This was the lakers get out of jail free card... You grab cousins... You sign holiday in the off season and still are able to trade randle/Russell for someone else really nice and ingram stops you?

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 02:23 AM
We most likely will be signing DLeaguer Quinn Cook later this week, IDK jack crap about him.

Sadds The Gr8
02-20-2017, 02:24 AM
The 2017 first-rounder going from New Orleans to Sacramento in the DeMarcus Cousins trade is top-3 protected, according to league sources

-Marc Stein

:laugh::laugh:

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:24 AM
I'm going to defend the Lakers here. You don't trade for an Boogie when: You're trying to tank and keep your draft pick, and you don't have a team good enough to surround Boogie with thus risking him leaving. And you'd lose Ingram in the process.

They made the correct choice here.

Except they could have nabbed cousins... And did so many other things... Ingram shouldnt be what stops that ever... Period... Holy **** talk about overrating prospects... He is a top 10 player in ALL OF BASKETBALL... You say here and thank you and move on... Ingram and a future first plus filler likely gets you a top 10 player in basketball.... As a sixer fan its the same dumb **** my fan base does from time to time with guys like Noel/Saric etc... We love these dudes BUT IF YOU CAN GET A TOP 10 PLAYER Cousins/PG/Butler... You do it unless you have an Embiid/Porz/Towns... Those 3 guys untouchable... The lakers dont have anyone that shows that promise... Make the ****ing trade and go sign holiday in the off season.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:26 AM
-Marc Stein

:laugh::laugh:

:laugh:

****ing kings man... ****ing kings. How... HOW

Lakers + Giants
02-20-2017, 02:27 AM
Yea, honestly. I'm glad we didnt give up Ingram. What if he leaves like D12? Then it's Ingram for nothing. Been there, don't want to do that again :laugh2:

aman_13
02-20-2017, 02:27 AM
I dont have a problem with the Lakers not going after him. They need to tank. The playoff teams that have assets shouldve though. Pacers, Celtics, OKC, have guys like 23 and under while giving up pivks for him

I see your point but Cousins is a generational talent. The Lakers may never draft anyone close to Cousins' skill level.

aman_13
02-20-2017, 02:28 AM
The 2017 first-rounder going from New Orleans to Sacramento in the DeMarcus Cousins trade is top-3 protected, according to league sources

-Marc Stein

:laugh::laugh:

Lmao I'm done.

kobe4thewinbang
02-20-2017, 02:28 AM
just in time for the playoffs, too. Looks like someone will get bumped off (probably denver). Would be interesting to see how they mesh but they're just too good to not win games just by talent alone. AD can be an elite defensive center with this offensive load off his back. same for DMC. Might want to look at getting CP3 next season.That would be an interesting return. I wonder if CP3 would rather play with AD & Boogie over Blake & DeAndre. We all know DeAndre ain't much offense, and Blake can't stay healthy. Not a bad pick for CP3 honestly...

Ty22Mitchell
02-20-2017, 02:29 AM
jesus ****ing christ LA... Why? Seriously... I am an ingram fan but you have a chance for cousins and Ingram is what stops you? Really? On top of that ingram has been dreadful... This was the lakers get out of jail free card... You grab cousins... You sign holiday in the off season and still are able to trade randle/Russell for someone else really nice and ingram stops you?

I have 3 bags of dorritos left in my cabinet. I'd be willing to trade any combination of two of them for Russell. However, if Mitch asked me to include a third bag for Russell, I'd hang up the phone and delete his number.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:30 AM
lmfao how do you have the balls to ask for top 3 protected after stealing cousins for Hield and a first...

Pels owner deserves this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW68goC4_es


Kings owner gets one of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

aman_13
02-20-2017, 02:30 AM
Yoo that can't be true.

kobe4thewinbang
02-20-2017, 02:32 AM
jesus ****ing christ LA... Why? Seriously... I am an ingram fan but you have a chance for cousins and Ingram is what stops you? Really? On top of that ingram has been dreadful... This was the lakers get out of jail free card... You grab cousins... You sign holiday in the off season and still are able to trade randle/Russell for someone else really nice and ingram stops you?I don't know...Ingram has gotten better. I think he could be good. I don't think he's a star, but he'll be a good glue guy/defense player. And those guys are needed. Cousins probably couldn't handle LA.

europagnpilgrim
02-20-2017, 02:32 AM
AD and DMC gonna be the new NBA's version of TD and Robinson

Better but only because Robinson was on his way out, but indeed they should be a joy to watch on pure game alone

they are the new younger version of that duo

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:32 AM
I have 3 bags of dorritos left in my cabinet. I'd be willing to trade any combination of two of them for Russell. However, if Mitch asked me to include a third bag for Russell, I'd hang up the phone and delete his number.

:laugh:

Its ****ing bonkers man. This is cousins... I cant stand how we overrate the **** out of prospects... Not everyone is going to be a curry.. I said this same **** in the sixers area when they were like NA I wouldnt include saric in a butler trade.... These are players that is almost a 99.9 percent given that are and will be better than anything saric/ingram ever become... EVER... They shouldnt be what stops teams from getting a top player

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:34 AM
I don't know...Ingram has gotten better. I think he could be good. I don't think he's a star, but he'll be a good glue guy/defense player. And those guys are needed. Cousins probably couldn't handle LA.

cousins in LA would be fine considering how he acts in general... He isnt a baby like D12... He is an *** but not a big crying baby but to be fair can you really blame cousins after seeing further proof of this kings ownership/front office?

europagnpilgrim
02-20-2017, 02:35 AM
Celtics shouldve jumped on that with this years Brooklyn pick and Amir Johnson (plus other to make salary work).

Then they should have traded like Bradley and the Nets first next year for Butler

C- Cousins
PF- Horford
SF- Crowder
SG- Butler
PG- Thomas

I mean they plan to do something with the picks right?

This lineup would put some serious scare in Lebron and the Cavs for that East crown, they would have no answer for Thomas or Cousins and Butler can man up Lebron 1 on 1, wont stop him but isn't scared one bit and that's half the battle right there

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:35 AM
I am legit amazed at the balls of the pelicans front office... How do you even go about getting that top 3 protected? Um so hield plus a first for cousins and um hey vlade why dont you throw in top 3 protected just because xD

kobe4thewinbang
02-20-2017, 02:38 AM
Seems that Cousins may have gotten burned a bit by this deal. Apparently he was 'this close' to qualifying for even more money on his next deal, but by this trade happening, that can't happen now. I hope this doesn't make him "Dwight" the Pelicans.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/02/kings-agree-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-to-pelicans.html

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 02:38 AM
Pels should win Franchise of the decade for that trade. It's up there with Boston stealing BK's picks

HandsOnTheWheel
02-20-2017, 02:41 AM
LOL. Should have traded him while you could have. Dude is such a head case.

smith&wesson
02-20-2017, 02:43 AM
Pelicans got away with a steal here.. great move by their gm.

That kings organization is a mockery now. They should just give up the team and give another city a chance. They can't even get value back for their super star

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 02:43 AM
LOL. Should have traded him while you could have. Dude is such a head case.

PLaying with that management I can see why

Sadds The Gr8
02-20-2017, 02:44 AM
lol imagine if Philly gets 2 top 3 picks...

LOb0
02-20-2017, 02:45 AM
Except they could have nabbed cousins... And did so many other things... Ingram shouldnt be what stops that ever... Period... Holy **** talk about overrating prospects... He is a top 10 player in ALL OF BASKETBALL... You say here and thank you and move on... Ingram and a future first plus filler likely gets you a top 10 player in basketball.... As a sixer fan its the same dumb **** my fan base does from time to time with guys like Noel/Saric etc... We love these dudes BUT IF YOU CAN GET A TOP 10 PLAYER Cousins/PG/Butler... You do it unless you have an Embiid/Porz/Towns... Those 3 guys untouchable... The lakers dont have anyone that shows that promise... Make the ****ing trade and go sign holiday in the off season.


I'm telling you this was a bullet dodged for Lakers fans. You'd of got Boogie, lost your top 3 protected pick this year due to winning more, lost Ingram plus the Kings would have wanted likely your 2018 first.

You'd of lost every asset you had and Boogie could walk.

CubsRule08
02-20-2017, 02:45 AM
Best tweet I've seen so far :laugh2:

"Boogie was traded for the dude that punched him in the dick.

A perfect metaphor for how Kings fans must feel about Vivek and Vlade."

https://twitter.com/dfs_almanac/status/833564132729298944


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Avenged
02-20-2017, 02:46 AM
What the ****..

I'm sorry but this needs to be vetoed and owners need to start sending in letters of complaints. No way this is all it should take to acquire Cousins.

KnickNyKnick
02-20-2017, 02:46 AM
Pelican have a great front court to build around. cant wait.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:48 AM
I'm telling you this was a bullet dodged for Lakers fans. You'd of got Boogie, lost your top 3 protected pick this year due to winning more, lost Ingram plus the Kings would have wanted likely your 2018 first.

You'd of lost every asset you had and Boogie could walk.

And if the lakers lose that pick anyway? You could have top 3 protected this pick from the kings and gave next years pick... Cousins isnt going to walk away from LA and a max... Then you go Nab Holiday or CP3... Ingram shouldnt stop that sorry. That is a joke esp how ingram has played... Already teams like the kings arent even asking about Russ... Before long that could happen to ingram much like OKA... That is what overvaluing prospects does.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:49 AM
What the ****..

I'm sorry but this needs to be vetoed and owners need to start sending in letters of complaints. No way this is all it should take to acquire Cousins.

it should be 100 percent vetoed but it cant be... The Kings own their franchise... The only reason the veto happened before was because of the ownership issue... This is just a franchises monumental **** up that will stand.

basch152
02-20-2017, 02:50 AM
Wasn't that nice of Sacramento to hand New Orleans the best front court in the NBA (ever?) for a nickel and dime?

Lol, you think they're better than duncan and robinson? Not even close...

Or mchale/parish/bird

Crackadalic
02-20-2017, 02:51 AM
Best tweet I've seen so far :laugh2:

"Boogie was traded for the dude that punched him in the dick.

A perfect metaphor for how Kings fans must feel about Vivek and Vlade."

https://twitter.com/dfs_almanac/status/833564132729298944


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Think thats my cue to go to bed :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:52 AM
also remember I am one of ingrams fans... He wont bust and will be a good player most likely BUT THIS IS A TOP 10 PLAYER... Ingram plus next years first... Not only do you say yes you get on your knees and give the kings a happy ending and when you take the money shot for that deal you toss in a top 5 protection clause like the pelicans did.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 02:53 AM
Honestly this organization really needs help this is so ****ed for the sac fans...

Stauce plus first
Kings swap for nothing
Now this...


Come on

shep33
02-20-2017, 02:54 AM
Glad the Lakers didn't' make this deal. People just think it was Ingram alone? It doesn't work like that lol. It was probably Ingram plus a first plus Lou (who could get us a first) plus two other players.

Not only that, but if we get Boogie we aren't getting that pick for sure this year. A year and half of Boogie for ingram plus multiple other assets is too much to give up. We tanked and sucked all these past years and we finally got some young talent. To trade that all away plus a future pick for Cousins would be an epic failure.

Kyben36
02-20-2017, 02:56 AM
Stern should ****ing nix this trade for basketball reasons.

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God no offense but Lakers fans get over it. Stern never vetoed a trade. When the NBA was in charge of the hornets. The coach made the trade without the authorization of the ownership. Which at that point was stern. It wasn't an outside force. It was the current GM saying no.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 02:57 AM
Glad the Lakers didn't' make this deal. People just think it was Ingram alone? It doesn't work like that lol. It was probably Ingram plus a first plus Lou (who could get us a first) plus two other players.

Not only that, but if we get Boogie we aren't getting that pick for sure this year. A year and half of Boogie for ingram plus multiple other assets is too much to give up. We tanked and sucked all these past years and we finally got some young talent. To trade that all away plus a future pick for Cousins would be an epic failure.

It would have set your team back 5 more years to have 30 win seasons with Boogie. Right now you got young players and are likely to keep your top 3 pick this year in a good draft.

Kyben36
02-20-2017, 02:58 AM
Glad the Lakers didn't' make this deal. People just think it was Ingram alone? It doesn't work like that lol. It was probably Ingram plus a first plus Lou (who could get us a first) plus two other players.

Not only that, but if we get Boogie we aren't getting that pick for sure this year. A year and half of Boogie for ingram plus multiple other assets is too much to give up. We tanked and sucked all these past years and we finally got some young talent. To trade that all away plus a future pick for Cousins would be an epic failure.

I don't disagree with your logic. As I think the team is coming along. But..... It probably had more to do with the fact u don't own 2017 fully. If u did. Ingram and that pick or even russell and that pick gets it done. But. Like u said. If u got cuz. That pick goes to the 76ers.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:00 AM
It would have set your team back 5 more years to have 30 win seasons with Boogie. Right now you got young players and are likely to keep your top 3 pick this year in a good draft.

How many wins do the pelicans have with AD? Or the knicks with Porz or the wolves with towns and their loaded roster? Its so moronic how the 30 win stupid **** always gets said for one of the very best players in all of basketball.. AD has taken his team to the playoffs 1 time and that was when every member of the thunder were ****ed.

Ty22Mitchell
02-20-2017, 03:00 AM
God no offense but Lakers fans get over it. Stern never vetoed a trade. When the NBA was in charge of the hornets. The coach made the trade without the authorization of the ownership. Which at that point was stern. It wasn't an outside force. It was the current GM saying no.

That trade set LA back a decade. I feel like us Lakers fan have atleast 5 more years of respectable greiving time.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:00 AM
I don't disagree with your logic. As I think the team is coming along. But..... It probably had more to do with the fact u don't own 2017 fully. If u did. Ingram and that pick or even russell and that pick gets it done. But. Like u said. If u got cuz. That pick goes to the 76ers.

and if that pick goes to the sixers anyway? Which is still a chance much like the knicks 2 years ago falling to 4.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 03:01 AM
OMG ANthony Tolliver's tweets lmao

ROY 2 MVP Braun
02-20-2017, 03:01 AM
I'm going to defend the Lakers here. You don't trade for an Boogie when: You're trying to tank and keep your draft pick, and you don't have a team good enough to surround Boogie with thus risking him leaving. And you'd lose Ingram in the process.

They made the correct choice here.

Except they could have nabbed cousins... And did so many other things... Ingram shouldnt be what stops that ever... Period... Holy **** talk about overrating prospects... He is a top 10 player in ALL OF BASKETBALL... You say here and thank you and move on... Ingram and a future first plus filler likely gets you a top 10 player in basketball.... As a sixer fan its the same dumb **** my fan base does from time to time with guys like Noel/Saric etc... We love these dudes BUT IF YOU CAN GET A TOP 10 PLAYER Cousins/PG/Butler... You do it unless you have an Embiid/Porz/Towns... Those 3 guys untouchable... The lakers dont have anyone that shows that promise... Make the ****ing trade and go sign holiday in the off season.

Add Giannis to that list but besides that i agree with everything you've said.
The Lakers totally f'd up. I don't understand how Boston can top that deal though. Dmc/horford front court with it is dangerous in the east

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:01 AM
It would have set your team back 5 more years to have 30 win seasons with Boogie. Right now you got young players and are likely to keep your top 3 pick this year in a good draft.

Yup. Boogie is not inclined to stay with a franchise now either. People forget that the only reason he was going to stay with the Kings is for the Designated Player Extension.

In 1.5 years with the Lakers, we were not going to be significantly better with Boogie, which means he could walk to another better team.

If it doesn't work out with the Pels, he's gone too. Simple as that. But the Pels need to get AD help, and they got a hell of a deal to get Boogie.

Kyben36
02-20-2017, 03:02 AM
Honestly this organization really needs help this is so ****ed for the sac fans...

Stauce plus first
Kings swap for nothing
Now this...


Come on

It's unfortunate and sad for Kings fans. Vlad needs to go. Spent years trying to find him help. And could not. Drafted a ton of centers. Made tons of bad deals. And this is the typing on that cake. Not a huge buddy heild fan. Think he is a bench type contributor. And a mid first for the best center in his prime. Jeez. It's sad. I'm also surprised cause he stayed in conference. And Boston didn't make the move. U figure they could have offered some package. Like the ability to swap 1st with the nets for cuz. But they didn't.

But what a sad deal

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:05 AM
Yup. Boogie is not inclined to stay with a franchise now either. People forget that the only reason he was going to stay with the Kings is for the Designated Player Extension.

In 1.5 years with the Lakers, we were not going to be significantly better with Boogie, which means he could walk to another better team.

If it doesn't work out with the Pels, he's gone too. Simple as that. But the Pels need to get AD help, and they got a hell of a deal to get Boogie.

doesnt that ext work for any team that trades him? You think he is going to walk away from that 200 mill he can get and the LA big market?

Kyben36
02-20-2017, 03:06 AM
and if that pick goes to the sixers anyway? Which is still a chance much like the knicks 2 years ago falling to 4.

Question. Would u trade d cousins for a pick that if it falls out of the top 3 isn't. Yours. That's a huge huge huge risk.

Also Remember. If they had cousins. And didn't own their pick. There would be no reason for the Lakers to suck or tank for their pick. Lakers probably end up in 6th or 7th by the end of it. And that pick goes Philly way barring a lottery win

LA_Raiders
02-20-2017, 03:06 AM
Wow, the queens just got rapped. I hope the Lakers get him in FA.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 03:07 AM
doesnt that ext work for any team that trades him? You think he is going to walk away from that 200 mill he can get and the LA big market?

Yes. I think he would walk. If LA had another All-star like the Pelicans did I'd say go for it, but you'd trade away everything and be left with Boogie and practically nothing else. You're risking him staying on a 20 win team with no draft picks.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 03:08 AM
OMG I am DYING from this tweet

https://twitter.com/pastapadre/status/833547478444052480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 03:09 AM
Wow, the queens just got rapped. I hope the Lakers get him in FA.

He resigning with us lmao

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:12 AM
Yes. I think he would walk. If LA had another All-star like the Pelicans did I'd say go for it, but you'd trade away everything and be left with Boogie and practically nothing else. You're risking him saying on a 20 win team with no draft picks.

The thing with this is though the lakers could SIGN A CP3 OR A HOLIDAY... And then give cousins his max... You dont think another star would come to LA and play with Cousins? The reason why the lakers have been burned in free agency with horrid mosgod deals and so on is because they dont have a cousins and now they wont for a long long time so what free agents are coming there now?

Where is the way out? You are banking on Russ who looks like one of the worst defenders in basketball and Ingram who is having one of the worst years ever to take you to just mediocrity when cousins by himself not just gets you there and beyond but is the piece that gets you that 2nd star.... I am at a loss for words that people are this high on ingram and this years draft pick which could drop to 4 even if the lakers have one of the worst records... So if that pick goes to the sixers the lakers are now ****ed regaurdless... All because they didnt want to go ingram plus a 2018 first... MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

HandsOnTheWheel
02-20-2017, 03:13 AM
I'll believe this when I see an official statement from either team. Not to be a debbie downer, but this could be complete BS folks.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:14 AM
I'll believe this when I see an official statement from either team. Not to be a debbie downer, but this could be complete BS folks.

kings fans better pray

LOb0
02-20-2017, 03:14 AM
I'll believe this when I see an official statement from either team. Not to be a debbie downer, but this could be complete BS folks.

I could see The Kings clown of an organization back out at the last minute.

Vinny642
02-20-2017, 03:15 AM
I'll believe this when I see an official statement from either team. Not to be a debbie downer, but this could be complete BS folks.

His agent told him right after the All Star Game, and his face lit up. He was smiling hard af. So good luck with that.

LOb0
02-20-2017, 03:17 AM
His agent told him right after the All Star Game, and his face lit up. He was smiling hard af. So good luck with that.

And he played 2 minutes in the all star game.

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:18 AM
doesnt that ext work for any team that trades him? You think he is going to walk away from that 200 mill he can get and the LA big market?


No. He loses his ability to sign the designated vet extension now.

kobe4thewinbang
02-20-2017, 03:19 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski

@WojVerticalNBA

As much as anything, Sacramento wants to build a culture free of Cousins. In the end, they changed course on committing $200M to him.
12:01 AM - 20 Feb 2017Good luck filling that new arena, but I guess it's a nice endeavor to move on. Sad they didn't get more though!

HandsOnTheWheel
02-20-2017, 03:25 AM
If true, I can't wait to see the dumbfounded look on the faces of Kings management after vehemently denying that they want to trade him. This is exactly what happens when clueless people get hired only because they know people.

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:28 AM
Kings fans should throw a fit.

Also. People crapping on the Lakers for not making this trade? (I think it was the right move to not trade for him), but by ya'll logic, why aren't you talking about the Celtics? Hell if anyone could have made this trade with the greatest amount of ease, it would've been them.

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:28 AM
Cousins is under contract for $18 million next year. Incentive to sign $200+ million ext was only w/ SAC. He just lost a lot of $ in new CBA


-Shelburne

He loses his designated player extension status. He can't get as big of a contract with the Pels anymore that he would've gotten with the Kings.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:29 AM
If I am the sixers I am on the phone right now asking the kings if they want OKA for that first... Same with the lakers... Give Randle for that pelicans first.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:30 AM
-Shelburne

He loses his designated player extension status. He can't get as big of a contract with the Pels anymore that he would've gotten with the Kings.

lol kings did him dirty as **** xD

Kyben36
02-20-2017, 03:32 AM
-Shelburne

He loses his designated player extension status. He can't get as big of a contract with the Pels anymore that he would've gotten with the Kings.

Question. Do the pelicans still have the ability to offer more that other teams. Or will it be a crap shoot when he is a FA

Kyben36
02-20-2017, 03:34 AM
If I am the sixers I am on the phone right now asking the kings if they want OKA for that first... Same with the lakers... Give Randle for that pelicans first.

If the Kings trade their only hope at redemption (and that's unlikely with their pick history) they would be even dumber. U have to pray that held and or that pick turn out. Both offered prospects are not good building blocks. Hopefully they can find somebody with that pick

smith&wesson
02-20-2017, 03:36 AM
Pelicans just need to get some shooters around these guys.

Sadds The Gr8
02-20-2017, 03:38 AM
Kings announcer is ripping Cousins to shreds on twitter.

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:38 AM
Question. Do the pelicans still have the ability to offer more that other teams. Or will it be a crap shoot when he is a FA

Yes. Because they keep Cousins' bird rights. But we've seen more players walk away from more money for better teams with better marketing opportunities.

If the Pels make some noise next year, I think he has a shot to stay. But it better work, cause he's going to feel wanted by a lot of teams if they don't play well.

smith&wesson
02-20-2017, 03:39 AM
So I guess the Kings are building around Hield and Causey Stein? Dam lol.

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:40 AM
In all truth, this was a steal. However, I hate the mix of players they have. I truly don't see how they mesh together.

Not only that, the floor spacing is gonna be terrible.

smith&wesson
02-20-2017, 03:42 AM
I agree with some of the Lakers fans here.. they should have jumped at the chance to get Cousins and build around him..

Would you build around Ingram or Russell, or Randle? No thanks

smith&wesson
02-20-2017, 03:44 AM
In all truth, this was a steal. However, I hate the mix of players they have. I truly don't see how they mesh together.

Not only that, the floor spacing is gonna be terrible.

They don't need much. Basically some good 3&D guys on the wings would suffice.. and they need Holiday to stay healthy. Buy that front court can dominate on its own.. just dump the ball to one of them lol

europagnpilgrim
02-20-2017, 03:47 AM
So I guess the Kings are building around Hield and Causey Stein? Dam lol.

Suits them quite well since they couldn't build around a bona fide stud in Cousins

they also stock piled big men in the draft so I always had a feeling Cousins would be traded but I felt it would happen next season

shep33
02-20-2017, 03:52 AM
They don't need much. Basically some good 3&D guys on the wings would suffice.. and they need Holiday to stay healthy. Buy that front court can dominate on its own.. just dump the ball to one of them lol

This is a league where small ball rules now. Moreover, these bigs love shooting jumpers. Plus there is less operating space.

It's easy to say that they can just go out and get 3 and D guys, lol, but it's not that simple. Moreover, they need to sign Jrue this summer too, so money isn't going to be easy to come around. Remember they still have Asik and Hill locked in for long periods of time (combined eating up 20+ mill of cap).

zn23
02-20-2017, 03:52 AM
lol Danny Ainge is getting ripped to shreds on twitter.

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 03:55 AM
Right now you gotta wonder why teams like the lakers/Pacers let this ball drop but most of all how the **** do you not make this trade if you are the celtics... I thought the celtics would be dumb to trade for butler because of what it would cost them but holy **** this deal makes them the best team in the East....

Also if you are the thunder you jump on this as well in my opinion... Westy/Cousins is fantastic.

Silent
02-20-2017, 04:24 AM
This has to be fake. The Kings are going to pull back on this right??? Buddy ****ing Hield, Langston Galloway, Tyrese Evans, and a first?? I couldn't pull that **** in 2K!!!

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Gm woulda hang up on you

GodsSon
02-20-2017, 04:25 AM
Can't believe that he lands on the Pelicans of all teams.

This is going to be interesting.

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 04:29 AM
Duplicate post

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 04:29 AM
Ranadive should hold a press conference so he can show us the reasoning behind this genius move, and then just dump gasoline over his head as he starts talking and set himself on fire. My god.

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 04:32 AM
This sets you up for absolutely NOTHING. It's baffling. Even if you tank, the situation we are in, it sets you up for absolutely NOOOOOTHING.

At least Rudy gay might opt back in right Vivik?

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 04:34 AM
Kings announcer is ripping Cousins to shreds on twitter.

Napear is ****ing pond scum. He can **** off.

KingPosey
02-20-2017, 04:35 AM
Yes. I think he would walk. If LA had another All-star like the Pelicans did I'd say go for it, but you'd trade away everything and be left with Boogie and practically nothing else. You're risking him staying on a 20 win team with no draft picks.

Everything? They apparently would have gotten him for Larry Nance Jr and a 2nd

More-Than-Most
02-20-2017, 04:43 AM
Everything? They apparently would have gotten him for Larry Nance Jr and a 2nd

Nance----------->Buddy ****ing Hield.

shep33
02-20-2017, 04:52 AM
Something is up. Like the Celts could've gotten a way better deal for him. Hell half the league.

Vlade messed up. He panicked.

eDush
02-20-2017, 05:53 AM
**** Mitch! **** Jim! They wouldn't trade Ingram for Cousins??? You do that ****ing trade everytime! ****ing dumb muther****ers!!

Sent from my SM-G935V using TapatalkCousins is a UFA offseason and will not sign any long term deal until after the season needed which mean he can leave and will. Lakers were smart not doing that trade without a firm commitment. Ingram is a future star imho :nod:

eDush
02-20-2017, 05:55 AM
Buddy is averaging 8PPG? This trade is all time bad.Duh he's a rookie but was the best pure shooter in college last season. Now the Pelicans has no reliable outside shooting but they had to trade for him and hope he will resign otherwise it's a big win for Sactown!

eDush
02-20-2017, 06:00 AM
Everything? They apparently would have gotten him for Larry Nance Jr and a 2nd

Nance----------->Buddy ****ing Hield.Lol Hield will be one of the greatest pure shooters in the league in a few years. Steph didn't play well his rookie season too but now he's the best shooter in the league by far :nod:

YoungOne
02-20-2017, 07:28 AM
I'm so pissed right now.
One of the best bigs is available for basically nothing, but danny rather hangs on to our 100 picks and 200 guards...

c.c.
02-20-2017, 07:30 AM
The best division in the NBA just got better

MagicBucsSox
02-20-2017, 07:49 AM
I'm so ashamed Orlando didn't get involved. I would easily give up Vucevic and Gordon for Cousins/McLemore. Anything on our roster to be honest. We could've used Cousins draft night to more up depending where we landed.

Vinylman
02-20-2017, 07:58 AM
Considering they can offer him 200+ million and no one else can, I'd say for the garbage they gave up for him, it was more than worth the risk

they can only go as high at $180 million

warfelg
02-20-2017, 08:05 AM
Let's go trade pick!!

LOL and Vlade has made two big big trades since becoming GM of the Kings and he's gotten RAKED in both of them.

So he's traded Carl Landry, Nik Stauskas, Jason Thompson, 2016/17 Pick Swap, 2019 1st, DeMarcus Cousins, Omari Casspi FOR Arturas Gugaitis, Luka Mitrovic, Buddy Hield, Tyreke Evans, Langston Galloway, 2017 1st, 2017 2nd.

NBA needs to step in on the Kings after moves like that.

Vinylman
02-20-2017, 08:10 AM
And if the lakers lose that pick anyway? You could have top 3 protected this pick from the kings and gave next years pick... Cousins isnt going to walk away from LA and a max... Then you go Nab Holiday or CP3... Ingram shouldnt stop that sorry. That is a joke esp how ingram has played... Already teams like the kings arent even asking about Russ... Before long that could happen to ingram much like OKA... That is what overvaluing prospects does.

They will probably lose it now as Sacto is going to sink to the bottom of the standings...

Don't forget, if the Lakers keep their pick this year the pick they owe Orlando from the D12 deal becomes a 2nd ... otherwise they have to give up their 2019 1st to Orlando

a lot at stake for the Lakers.

Vinylman
02-20-2017, 08:18 AM
God no offense but Lakers fans get over it. Stern never vetoed a trade. When the NBA was in charge of the hornets. The coach made the trade without the authorization of the ownership. Which at that point was stern. It wasn't an outside force. It was the current GM saying no.

no one with a brain blames stern... we all blame Jim Buss... all he had to do was add Bynum into the deal and nix the Houston part and it would have gotten done...

Jim Buss is the reason the Lakers suck right now... nothing more nothing less

eDush
02-20-2017, 08:25 AM
God no offense but Lakers fans get over it. Stern never vetoed a trade. When the NBA was in charge of the hornets. The coach made the trade without the authorization of the ownership. Which at that point was stern. It wasn't an outside force. It was the current GM saying no.

no one with a brain blames stern... we all blame Jim Buss... all he had to do was add Bynum into the deal and nix the Houston part and it would have gotten done...

Jim Buss is the reason the Lakers suck right now... nothing more nothing lessIt was also rumor he wanted Mozgov at any cost and told Mitch to get him as their center.

Vinylman
02-20-2017, 08:28 AM
It was also rumor he wanted Mozgov at any cost and told Mitch to get him as their center.

that is what people are saying... the problem with Mozgov was the number of years... they could have signed him to a 1 year /$20 million deal and had more flexibility but they don't think like that in LA

warfelg
02-20-2017, 08:31 AM
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But the Sixers needed to fire Hinkie and hire Colangelo :rolleyes:

MagicBucsSox
02-20-2017, 08:35 AM
833547388581195776

But the Sixers needed to fire Hinkie and hire Colangelo :rolleyes:

I think the other owners forced that one. There was method to the Hinkie madness but he was bombing a major market

PAOboston
02-20-2017, 08:44 AM
For Sacramento to sell for so low, it probably means that Cousins told them he wasn't re-signing there. Throw in the fact that he is a psychopath and there you go: Buddy Hield and some slop.

Honestly not convinced he stays in NO long term.

For the time being, on paper at least, that is the most dominating front court I've seen in a long, long time.

NFLAccess
02-20-2017, 09:02 AM
Crazy

warfelg
02-20-2017, 09:03 AM
That look on Boogie's face in the post game interview though when he was told was gold. He looked like a cross of shock, pissed, happy.

eDush
02-20-2017, 09:07 AM
For Sacramento to sell for so low, it probably means that Cousins told them he wasn't re-signing there. Throw in the fact that he is a psychopath and there you go: Buddy Hield and some slop.

Honestly not convinced he stays in NO long term.

For the time being, on paper at least, that is the most dominating front court I've seen in a long, long time.But Buddy Hield is the real deal unlike Kris Dunn.

YAALREADYKNO
02-20-2017, 09:08 AM
The kings are a joke of an organization right now. They keep trying to get these young undersized shooting guards lol

mia1619
02-20-2017, 09:10 AM
Buddy Hield stinks. This is a horrible deal for the Kings. Woj said part of the rationale was that they were afraid they werent going to keep their top 10 protected first rounder, which makes this deal look even dumber and more panicked.

They could have gotten deals from just about every team in the league that is better than this.

I dont think the AD-Boogie front court will mesh well, but the talent will probably be enough to overcome the matchup fit, and if they decide it doesnt work and trade Boogie, they have an asset that is 15X better than anything they had previously and can net them something that will help them put a team around Davis a lot easier. Pelicans struck gold even if the fit isnt the best. Kings need to have the NBA take over their team. This is a complete embarassment to the NBA.

Even if they wanted to trade Cousins to keep their pick this year, which is absolutely ******** rationale for trading Cousins, just about every team in the league could have come up with a better package by thursday. Miami, Boston, Philly, LA, Phoenix, maybe even Portland all would have easily topped that offer. Divac needs to be fired immediately. They are an absolute dumpster fire of an organization in every possible facet. The big winners in this trade are the Pelicans and the 76ers for getting their 2019 first round pick unprotected a few years ago in another mid bogglingly dumb trade.

Mr. Baller
02-20-2017, 09:11 AM
Sixers are big winners in this too. If Kings tank hard, Sixers have right to pick swap with Sacramento

warfelg
02-20-2017, 09:16 AM
Sixers are big winners in this too. If Kings tank hard, Sixers have right to pick swap with Sacramento

I seriously think Vlade forgot about it.

TyrionLannister
02-20-2017, 09:35 AM
There's no chance for a veto for this horrible, horrible trade. But if I'm Adam Silver, this is what I would do.

Hold a meeting with Vivek Ranadive and give him an ultimatum. Tell him to fire Vlade, hire a legitimate basketball mind to run the operations, and to stay hands-off and let the guy do his job. Until he does that, I'm fining him $10 million a season for gross negligence.

Historically awful trade. My God I'm not a fan of either team and I can't even sleep.

tp13baby
02-20-2017, 09:46 AM
Vlade is the worst GM of all time hahahaha

I seriously can't believe thats all they got for Cousins.

LoveCaliFan
02-20-2017, 09:48 AM
NOP will be very good now. Especially if they add 1 more solid piece.

Davis & DMC will be a great combo. 2 extremely versitile bigs on same team. All they need is spot shooters...

eDush
02-20-2017, 09:52 AM
There's no chance for a veto for this horrible, horrible trade. But if I'm Adam Silver, this is what I would do.

Hold a meeting with Vivek Ranadive and give him an ultimatum. Tell him to fire Vlade, hire a legitimate basketball mind to run the operations, and to stay hands-off and let the guy do his job. Until he does that, I'm fining him $10 million a season for gross negligence.

Historically awful trade. My God I'm not a fan of either team and I can't even sleep.The Pau Gasol trade was worst, much worst since the Lakers won how many championships again with a prime elite center? The only way this can even come close is if Cousins can help AD win at least one which I doubt so they need to prove me wrong.

I also think Hield will be much better than most fans think. Much better shooter than Murray :nod:.

Dade County
02-20-2017, 09:57 AM
You can clearly tell that the League was behind this Trade.

N.O needed to put another All Star around AD, so they came up with this crap trade. Because everyone can see that this trade doesn't make any sense.

If N.O can upgrade at pg, they can be a top 4 team in the West next season.

TheDish87
02-20-2017, 09:58 AM
lololol oook

IndyRealist
02-20-2017, 10:01 AM
There's no chance for a veto for this horrible, horrible trade. But if I'm Adam Silver, this is what I would do.

Hold a meeting with Vivek Ranadive and give him an ultimatum. Tell him to fire Vlade, hire a legitimate basketball mind to run the operations, and to stay hands-off and let the guy do his job. Until he does that, I'm fining him $10 million a season for gross negligence.

Historically awful trade. My God I'm not a fan of either team and I can't even sleep.

You realize Adam Silver works for the owners, right? The reason they nixed the Chris Paul trade was because the league was acting as owners of the team.

ewing
02-20-2017, 10:04 AM
Buddy Hield stinks. This is a horrible deal for the Kings. Woj said part of the rationale was that they were afraid they werent going to keep their top 10 protected first rounder, which makes this deal look even dumber and more panicked.

They could have gotten deals from just about every team in the league that is better than this.

I dont think the AD-Boogie front court will mesh well, but the talent will probably be enough to overcome the matchup fit, and if they decide it doesnt work and trade Boogie, they have an asset that is 15X better than anything they had previously and can net them something that will help them put a team around Davis a lot easier. Pelicans struck gold even if the fit isnt the best. Kings need to have the NBA take over their team. This is a complete embarassment to the NBA.

Even if they wanted to trade Cousins to keep their pick this year, which is absolutely ******** rationale for trading Cousins, just about every team in the league could have come up with a better package by thursday. Miami, Boston, Philly, LA, Phoenix, maybe even Portland all would have easily topped that offer. Divac needs to be fired immediately. They are an absolute dumpster fire of an organization in every possible facet. The big winners in this trade are the Pelicans and the 76ers for getting their 2019 first round pick unprotected a few years ago in another mid bogglingly dumb trade.

settle down

mia1619
02-20-2017, 10:06 AM
settle down

what about that post is not true? This is a horrific trade from any rational perspective. And especially from the Woj reported perspective of the Kings not wanting to lose their top 10 protected first rounder. Giving away cousins for pennies on the dollar to keep a pick that will probably be 5-10 is horrific mismanagement.

IndyRealist
02-20-2017, 10:06 AM
It's obvious that PSD's opinion of Cousins is a lot higher than the league's. This was likely the best offer they could get.

mia1619
02-20-2017, 10:06 AM
You can clearly tell that the League was behind this Trade.

N.O needed to put another All Star around AD, so they came up with this crap trade. Because everyone can see that this trade doesn't make any sense.

If N.O can upgrade at pg, they can be a top 4 team in the West next season.

lol wtf are you talking about.

LoveCaliFan
02-20-2017, 10:07 AM
Imo, the NOP aren't finished. They are log jammed in the froncourt now..Well not really, but man are they stout in the paint....If they can get a solid Wing(Gallinari or Chandler, etc) look out! All they need is spot shooters. They are now a big time threat. 2 extremely versitile bigs. They just might be unstoppable if they get one more solid piece. They'll look like the best team on paper with 1 more solid player.

Holiday/ Frazier
Moore/ Pondexter
Hill/ Cunningham
Davis/ Jones/ Montejunas
DMC/ Asik/ Ajinca

bleedprple&gold
02-20-2017, 10:09 AM
Sixers are big winners in this too. If Kings tank hard, Sixers have right to pick swap with Sacramento


I seriously think Vlade forgot about it.

Lol wouldn't surprise me. Vlade is clueless.

Vinylman
02-20-2017, 10:15 AM
You realize Adam Silver works for the owners, right? The reason they nixed the Chris Paul trade was because the league was acting as owners of the team.

People still don't seem to understand this point...

Also, the deal was never submitted to the league... they had scheduled a conference call to go over it but they still didn't have the salaries matching because Smith wouldn't sign an extension.

warfelg
02-20-2017, 10:16 AM
It's obvious that PSD's opinion of Cousins is a lot higher than the league's. This was likely the best offer they could get.

Uhhh I disagree massively. There were teams trying to get through to Sac FO members the last two or three days with better offers and they were hung up on. Clearly they could have gotten better but were being stupid.

HouRealCoach
02-20-2017, 10:19 AM
I seriously think Vlade forgot about it.

It's top 10 protected so they can't get it

Vinylman
02-20-2017, 10:24 AM
It's obvious that PSD's opinion of Cousins is a lot higher than the league's. This was likely the best offer they could get.

The reality is Sacto are idiots and could have got a lot more for him at last years deadline or even during the offseason.

As for it being the best deal? I dunno... I am sure that Boston would have offered the Nets pick plus expirings for him which would have been better... At a minimum I could see boston giving up 3 other first rounders (non-Nets) for him plus a decent player...

Other than Hield they didn't really get anything out of the deal...

What I am really surprised by is the fact that sacto didn't force them to take Gay or some other **** deal

LoveCaliFan
02-20-2017, 10:28 AM
They need a wing 3&D. A 3&D 2 guard and they'll be monsters, especially if they can get a 6th man as well(Lou Will). But if they are done trading then maybe they go with a lineup like this:

Holiday/ Frazier
Moore/ Pondexter
Davis/ Hill/ Cunningham
Jones/ Montiejunas/ Diallo
DMC/ Asik/ Ajinca

Davis is capable of being on the wing. He has all the tools and with a team of capable shooters to spread the floor, Davis would easily have space to create and get to the paint, hit midrange shots or 3's or kick the ball out to open shooters(Holiday, Moore, Jones, DMC) I can see NOP utilizing Davis like Giannis Antetekuonmpo. They just might become freaking dangerous..

F-it. They are a contending team. You can call me whatever, but they will contend.

IndyRealist
02-20-2017, 10:29 AM
Uhhh I disagree massively. There were teams trying to get through to Sac FO members the last two or three days with better offers and they were hung up on. Clearly they could have gotten better but were being stupid.

Cousins is a headcase and his agent said they're not signing an extension. Unless someone can provide a concrete, verified offer from another team, this is Cousins' value.

TheDish87
02-20-2017, 10:30 AM
It's top 10 protected so they can't get it

for the Bulls bit the Sixers have the right to swap this year.

IndyRealist
02-20-2017, 10:31 AM
The reality is Sacto are idiots and could have got a lot more for him at last years deadline or even during the offseason.

As for it being the best deal? I dunno... I am sure that Boston would have offered the Nets pick plus expirings for him which would have been better... At a minimum I could see boston giving up 3 other first rounders (non-Nets) for him plus a decent player...

Other than Hield they didn't really get anything out of the deal...

What I am really surprised by is the fact that sacto didn't force them to take Gay or some other **** deal

Last year and in the offseason I might agree, but that's not now. Now his value is really low.

Hawkeye15
02-20-2017, 10:32 AM
Terrible haul by Sac. Cousins losing $30 million in his next contract hurts him, maybe that deterred some teams from including too much, worrying he might not re-sign out of spite? Anyways, the Kings could have gotten a lot more.

The Pels, get a B+ from me, they don't have the vet(s) structure necessary to rope in Cousins imo, maybe a change of scenery will do something, idk.

Bad trade for Sac, they take a huge step back, and didn't get near enough for a haul.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-20-2017, 10:32 AM
Hield the Cousins nut puncher was part of the trade.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/833678010935021570

Still shocked Lakers wouldn't part with Ingram.

warfelg
02-20-2017, 10:34 AM
It's top 10 protected so they can't get it

What are you talking about? If the Kings pick is higher than the Sixers we can swap.