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MagicBucsSox
02-14-2017, 01:30 PM
Ownership has given #Cavs green light to increase payroll/tax, per AmicoHoops source. Team said to be working on several trade possibilities.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-14-2017, 01:32 PM
Cavs don't have much for trade bait now. No picks.

Heediot
02-14-2017, 04:51 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zxrjsp2

Process complete!!!

Hawkeye15
02-14-2017, 05:04 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zxrjsp2

Process complete!!!

haha

Sactown
02-14-2017, 05:08 PM
haha
The funniest part of that is the wins projection. Only -5

IndyRealist
02-14-2017, 05:17 PM
Melo needs to demand a buyout at this point.

IKnowHoops
02-14-2017, 05:18 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zxrjsp2

Process complete!!!

Gotta find a way to keep Simmons

Heediot
02-14-2017, 07:19 PM
Gotta find a way to keep Simmons

Trade wasn't serious. Even then LeBron and Simmons may not be the best fit next to each other, unless it's street ball.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-15-2017, 02:06 PM
With Love out 6 weeks. Do the Cavs go small ball with LeBron at PF? Love is out. Bird man dumped. All they got left for big men are Thompson and Frye and newly acquired Williams. If anyone gets into foul trouble or injured they be in a tight spot.

Giannis94
02-15-2017, 02:15 PM
Might as well trade Lebron before he opts out.. History repeats itself- CC: KD, Lebron.

Vee-Rex
02-15-2017, 02:20 PM
Might as well trade Lebron before he opts out.. History repeats itself- CC: KD, Lebron.

LeBron can't opt-out this summer.

:laugh2:

LoveCaliFan
02-15-2017, 02:32 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zxrjsp2

Process complete!!!

Lmao..That is true though. You'd have to trade the whole roster. lol

lakerfan85
02-15-2017, 02:40 PM
Now I can rest easy tonight..

Giannis94
02-15-2017, 02:56 PM
LeBron can't opt-out this summer.

:laugh2:

I know that homie. If he doesnt win another title in the next 2 years I can see him leaving no doubt. The cavs haven't done enough for him, despite the fact he has crafted their roster though

Gibby23
02-15-2017, 03:03 PM
I know that homie. If he doesnt win another title in the next 2 years I can see him leaving no doubt. The cavs haven't done enough for him, despite the fact he has crafted their roster though

It would probably be a good thing for them to let a 34 year old Lebron walk instead of giving him like 5 years and $200 million.

king4day
02-15-2017, 03:26 PM
Not sure what they expect to get now. They'd have to start tearing apart their core guys and I'm not sure many of the role players are that valuable to return top guys.

AntiG
02-15-2017, 03:34 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zxrjsp2

Process complete!!!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z65k9n6
There ya go. We'll throw in the 2017 and 2018 Nets picks too.

BKLYNpigeon
02-15-2017, 03:51 PM
Cavs have nothing to trade other then a trade exception and a 2nd round pick.

FlashBolt
02-15-2017, 04:34 PM
derrick williams has been perfect for the cavs because he's an athletic and quick player. They've been missing someone like him. He can get to the basket better than anyone outside of Kyrie+LeBron. It's why I said Love will have trouble against warriors whereas a player with D.Will's athleticism would cause issues for the Warriors.

Vee-Rex
02-15-2017, 04:46 PM
derrick williams has been perfect for the cavs because he's an athletic and quick player. They've been missing someone like him. He can get to the basket better than anyone outside of Kyrie+LeBron. It's why I said Love will have trouble against warriors whereas a player with D.Will's athleticism would cause issues for the Warriors.

He's pretty much like a more athletic/fast Richard Jefferson, and we all saw the impact RJ had in the finals. I'm hoping D-Will can continue playing this well.

FlashBolt
02-15-2017, 05:09 PM
I think Bron should be in contention for MVP if they close this season out strong. He'll be without love/J.R. -- two of the four best players on the team. Look at the rest of the roster outside of Bron/Irving. Relatively weak.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2017, 05:10 PM
I think Bron should be in contention for MVP if they close this season out strong. He'll be without love/J.R. -- two of the four best players on the team. Look at the rest of the roster outside of Bron/Irving. Relatively weak.

if I only watched Wolves games, I would think Channing Frye was an all NBA player. He destroys us everytime we play him.

Giannis94
02-15-2017, 05:31 PM
if I only watched Wolves games, I would think Channing Frye was an all NBA player. He destroys us everytime we play him.

If you wouldn't have included "if" and "would " from this post I would have to report you for being a dupe of Iknowhoops. However, you barely skated through.

Giannis94
02-15-2017, 05:35 PM
It would probably be a good thing for them to let a 34 year old Lebron walk instead of giving him like 5 years and $200 million.

You do realize that lebron is being paid for psoitions, right? Gm-coach-player. Look at when the gm actually did bos job. Anthony bennett!? Oh and Lebron is worth more to rhem than any other team in the nba

BKLYNpigeon
02-15-2017, 05:41 PM
I think Bron should be in contention for MVP if they close this season out strong. He'll be without love/J.R. -- two of the four best players on the team. Look at the rest of the roster outside of Bron/Irving. Relatively weak.

this coming from a Warriors fan...

If Cavs finish in the top seed in the East. Lebron is my pick for MVP.

Vee-Rex
02-15-2017, 06:02 PM
if I only watched Wolves games, I would think Channing Frye was an all NBA player. He destroys us everytime we play him.

Heh. Raps fans hate him (and call him their father).

The best defenses (especially the ones with mobile/agile bigs) in the NBA don't have much trouble with him. His defense isn't good and he rebounds like a toddler, but he's a true sharp-shooter and it shows against teams who can be a bit undisciplined on defense.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2017, 06:23 PM
Heh. Raps fans hate him (and call him their father).

The best defenses (especially the ones with mobile/agile bigs) in the NBA don't have much trouble with him. His defense isn't good and he rebounds like a toddler, but he's a true sharp-shooter and it shows against teams who can be a bit undisciplined on defense.

Wiggins alone missed 5 close outs on Frye. I am on a vendetta against Wiggins currently, he is pissing me off so badly.

FlashBolt
02-15-2017, 09:23 PM
You do realize that lebron is being paid for psoitions, right? Gm-coach-player. Look at when the gm actually did bos job. Anthony bennett!? Oh and Lebron is worth more to rhem than any other team in the nba

wtf are you saying man. you know you would trade giannis for lebron's left leg...

Vee-Rex
02-15-2017, 10:26 PM
You do realize that lebron is being paid for psoitions, right? Gm-coach-player. Look at when the gm actually did bos job. Anthony bennett!? Oh and Lebron is worth more to rhem than any other team in the nba

David Griffin did not draft Anthony Bennett. Do some research before babbling, bro.

IndyRealist
02-15-2017, 10:35 PM
if I only watched Wolves games, I would think Channing Frye was an all NBA player. He destroys us everytime we play him.

If I only watched Pacers games, I would think Kyle Korver was league MVP. How do you let a 3pt shooter go 10-12 and 8-12 in the same week?

FlashBolt
02-15-2017, 10:42 PM
If I only watched Pacers games, I would think Kyle Korver was league MVP. How do you let a 3pt shooter go 10-12 and 8-12 in the same week?

You can't stop Korver when he's on a team with LeBron. Just pray he misses. He's truly the best shooter for catch-and-shoot purposes.

ewing
02-15-2017, 11:18 PM
You can't stop Korver when he's on a team with LeBron. Just pray he misses. He's truly the best shooter for catch-and-shoot purposes.

its catch and shoot on the move too. Frye is a thing of beauty standing still Kover can square on a dead run and he is tall. Dude is a special shooter.

IKnowHoops
02-16-2017, 04:57 AM
Trade wasn't serious. Even then LeBron and Simmons may not be the best fit next to each other, unless it's street ball.

i was joking too, cause of course that would have zero chance of happening for one. But two, I still wanted to play with it a little.

IKnowHoops
02-16-2017, 05:24 AM
It would probably be a good thing for them to let a 34 year old Lebron walk instead of giving him like 5 years and $200 million.

I disagree wholeheartedly. For one, I bet he earns his contract from 34-38. I bet he easily earns. Secondly, having Lebron on the team brings you the outside endorsement and revenue streams. You want to have Lebron for the rest of his career. You want Lebron as your guy in the history books. You want to win for the next 6-7 years. You want to win 1 maybe 2 more rings. You want to celebrate every week for the last three years of his career when he takes down record after record after record at an alarming number and rate never before seen. You want the GOAT.

IKnowHoops
02-16-2017, 05:34 AM
If you wouldn't have included "if" and "would " from this post I would have to report you for being a dupe of Iknowhoops. However, you barely skated through.

lol...I haven't had anyone think of me as much as you do in a long time. Its kind of cute.

Vinylman
02-16-2017, 08:12 AM
I disagree wholeheartedly. For one, I bet he earns his contract from 34-38. I bet he easily earns. Secondly, having Lebron on the team brings you the outside endorsement and revenue streams. You want to have Lebron for the rest of his career. You want Lebron as your guy in the history books. You want to win for the next 6-7 years. You want to win 1 maybe 2 more rings. You want to celebrate every week for the last three years of his career when he takes down record after record after record at an alarming number and rate never before seen. You want the GOAT.

really?

The Cavs won a chip last year and lost $40 million... that number will only get worse as they continue to be repeat LT offenders.

I have no idea where Bron will be in 3 years but I doubt he will be competing for a chip unless he joins another group of superstars

Giannis94
02-16-2017, 09:29 AM
wtf are you saying man. you know you would trade giannis for lebron's left leg...

I wouldn't trade giannis for lebron if the entered the league at the same age.

MarkieMark48
02-16-2017, 01:35 PM
really?

The Cavs won a chip last year and lost $40 million... that number will only get worse as they continue to be repeat LT offenders.

I have no idea where Bron will be in 3 years but I doubt he will be competing for a chip unless he joins another group of superstars

I disagree, I think whatever team Lebron is on will be a title contender until he retires

Vinylman
02-16-2017, 02:22 PM
I disagree, I think whatever team Lebron is on will be a title contender until he retires

wow.. really stepping out there with your prediction... especially when I already said he would be competing if he joined up with other superstars...

Are you saying that he will be competing in the 2019/2020 season if he is on the Cavs?

If so, the only way will be if he got other superstars to join him like I said...

You really don't understand how bad the Cavs roster / picks / LT situation is currently...

FlashBolt
02-16-2017, 02:35 PM
[QUOTE=Vinylman;31466039]wow.. really stepping out there with your prediction... especially when I already said he would be competing if he joined up with other superstars...

What implication have you seen that would suggest otherwise? LeBron holds a lot of leverage so he would never put himself in a position not to have an opportunity to win. I remember the decline talks happening as soon as age 29. Dude has been getting BETTER. He's relying more on skill than athleticism and skill does not decline.

Lil Rhody
02-16-2017, 02:36 PM
Good maybe James can stop crying that his deep isn't deep

ewing
02-17-2017, 12:03 AM
I think Bron should be in contention for MVP if they close this season out strong. He'll be without love/J.R. -- two of the four best players on the team. Look at the rest of the roster outside of Bron/Irving. Relatively weak.

You are really overrating JR but you are right about Bron. He always has a case for MVP


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Vinylman
02-17-2017, 09:04 AM
[QUOTE=Vinylman;31466039]wow.. really stepping out there with your prediction... especially when I already said he would be competing if he joined up with other superstars...

What implication have you seen that would suggest otherwise? LeBron holds a lot of leverage so he would never put himself in a position not to have an opportunity to win. I remember the decline talks happening as soon as age 29. Dude has been getting BETTER. He's relying more on skill than athleticism and skill does not decline.

I already said why and didn't discuss Lebron's skills once...

reread my post

Yanks All Day
02-17-2017, 10:14 AM
wow.. really stepping out there with your prediction... especially when I already said he would be competing if he joined up with other superstars...

Are you saying that he will be competing in the 2019/2020 season if he is on the Cavs?

If so, the only way will be if he got other superstars to join him like I said...

You really don't understand how bad the Cavs roster / picks / LT situation is currently...

The Cavaliers have Kyrie (24), Love (28), Thompson (25), and JR Smith(31) (and probably LeBron) under contract for the next 3 years. Including this year, they're going to the next 4 NBA Finals barring a LeBron injury. The situation can't be that bad.

Kyrie and Thompson haven't touched their primes yet. LeBron has the game and skill set to age well. Love is still in his prime. Smith is the wild card, but shooters can age very well. That team will win the East accidentally most years, and that's before vets and specialists sign on to minimum contracts to ring chase.

JOSKOMANG4
02-17-2017, 10:49 AM
F/C Frye, G/F Shump, Trade Exception for C Kahn, & 2021 1st rd pick to Bulls for G D.Wade. I believe wade received a no trade clause.

Bulls: Lopez/Gibson/Butler/Shump/Rondo(MCW)

Cavs(Love Out): Thompson/Williams/James/Wade/Kyrie

Hawkeye15
02-17-2017, 11:41 AM
You are really overrating JR but you are right about Bron. He always has a case for MVP


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JR is the definition of, "one man's trash is another man's treasure"

Vinylman
02-17-2017, 01:14 PM
The Cavaliers have Kyrie (24), Love (28), Thompson (25), and JR Smith(31) (and probably LeBron) under contract for the next 3 years. Including this year, they're going to the next 4 NBA Finals barring a LeBron injury. The situation can't be that bad.

Kyrie and Thompson haven't touched their primes yet. LeBron has the game and skill set to age well. Love is still in his prime. Smith is the wild card, but shooters can age very well. That team will win the East accidentally most years, and that's before vets and specialists sign on to minimum contracts to ring chase.

so ... just to be clear... the current core plus ring chasers will get to the finals the next 4 years barring an injury to Lebron...

ummm... no chance...

we can agree to disagree

Ask an intelligent Cleveland fan if they are worried about their current roster situation this year and moving forward and the honest answer you will get is ABSOLUTELY

MarkieMark48
02-17-2017, 01:50 PM
wow.. really stepping out there with your prediction... especially when I already said he would be competing if he joined up with other superstars...

Are you saying that he will be competing in the 2019/2020 season if he is on the Cavs?

If so, the only way will be if he got other superstars to join him like I said...

You really don't understand how bad the Cavs roster / picks / LT situation is currently...

Youre the one that said you doubt he will be competing for a championship... Im just disagreeing with that statement.... Yes, I'm saying whatever team he is on (barring injury to him) will be championship contenders (one of the top 2/3 seeds in whatever conference hes in)

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-17-2017, 02:04 PM
Who are the Cavs linked to trading for? LeBron suggested Beasley before the Korver trade. Not sure the Bucks would part with Beasley. Hard to say. Melo was linked to Cavs and Clippers. But neither team has anything decent to part with after excluding big 3 from each team. If Bulls decide to trade Butler for a godfather offer from Celtics. I could see Wade traded to Cavs for either Shumpert or JR Smith and whatever assets Cavs can muster up. Not sure what picks they have to trade. But I'm sure Nuggets could offer up a better package for Wade.

prodigy
02-17-2017, 02:22 PM
I wonder what kind of leverage Melo has with the Knicks. with the no trade. kicks want him out he can say ill only go to the cavs. take what they offer or ill stay. lol IDk.

Clint Olbrock
02-17-2017, 04:54 PM
so ... just to be clear... the current core plus ring chasers will get to the finals the next 4 years barring an injury to Lebron...

ummm... no chance...

we can agree to disagree

Ask an intelligent Cleveland fan if they are worried about their current roster situation this year and moving forward and the honest answer you will get is ABSOLUTELY
Am I worried about this year.. No. Love and JR will be back around the same time(before the playoffs) and we have an open roster spot, about to be 2 when we get rid of McRae.. No, not worried.

Am I worried about next season.. No. We have Kyrie, LeBron, Love, Frye, Thompson, JR, Shump, Jefferson and Liggins under contract while still having the inside track to re-sign Korver and Williams. Not only that, we have the rights to Osman(who wants to come over next season) and Pointer(young defensive guy, if we want to take a flyer on him, if not keep stashing him).

The season after that, then yeah you may have a point because LBJ will be 34 and a FA but a 34 LBJ will compete if he re-signs with the Cavs or goes elsewhere. We'll still have Love, Kyrie, TT and JR under contract then.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-18-2017, 09:32 AM
I could see Cavs sign Larry Sanders for vet minimum or start out with 10 day contracts.

FlashBolt
02-18-2017, 08:39 PM
I could see Cavs sign Larry Sanders for vet minimum or start out with 10 day contracts.

I guess he ran out of money... liked the dude for his shotblocking ability and he'll probably play hard for this season and get a nice contract for the future and then go back to not caring but man, hope he isn't doing it for that.

ewing
02-19-2017, 12:17 AM
I guess he ran out of money... liked the dude for his shotblocking ability and he'll probably play hard for this season and get a nice contract for the future and then go back to not caring but man, hope he isn't doing it for that.


Dude has to have problems we don't know about. Bigs always get second chances.

Vee-Rex
02-19-2017, 12:51 AM
Larry Sanders used the stretch provision with the Bucks. He's getting paid 1.8 million through like 2020-2021 or something like that.

So maybe he's actually trying to come back and it's not all about money.

prodigy
02-19-2017, 09:41 AM
Am I worried about this year.. No. Love and JR will be back around the same time(before the playoffs) and we have an open roster spot, about to be 2 when we get rid of McRae.. No, not worried.

Am I worried about next season.. No. We have Kyrie, LeBron, Love, Frye, Thompson, JR, Shump, Jefferson and Liggins under contract while still having the inside track to re-sign Korver and Williams. Not only that, we have the rights to Osman(who wants to come over next season) and Pointer(young defensive guy, if we want to take a flyer on him, if not keep stashing him).

The season after that, then yeah you may have a point because LBJ will be 34 and a FA but a 34 LBJ will compete if he re-signs with the Cavs or goes elsewhere. We'll still have Love, Kyrie, TT and JR under contract then.


This.

BTW- I would love Larry Sanders. excellent defensive player which we need big time. Also quick and athletic for a big so he will run well in out system.

Vinylman
02-19-2017, 11:02 AM
Am I worried about this year.. No. Love and JR will be back around the same time(before the playoffs) and we have an open roster spot, about to be 2 when we get rid of McRae.. No, not worried.

Am I worried about next season.. No. We have Kyrie, LeBron, Love, Frye, Thompson, JR, Shump, Jefferson and Liggins under contract while still having the inside track to re-sign Korver and Williams. Not only that, we have the rights to Osman(who wants to come over next season) and Pointer(young defensive guy, if we want to take a flyer on him, if not keep stashing him).

The season after that, then yeah you may have a point because LBJ will be 34 and a FA but a 34 LBJ will compete if he re-signs with the Cavs or goes elsewhere. We'll still have Love, Kyrie, TT and JR under contract then.

Sorry dude... the qualifier was "intelligent" not "homer"

Tg11
02-19-2017, 11:16 AM
Cleveland trying to build a super team I can't blame them...hell Golden State did it why not Cleveland

LOb0
02-19-2017, 11:27 AM
If Larry Sanders kept himself in shape and the Cavs got him? That's a huge pick up.

I swear GS better not get him..

Tg11
02-19-2017, 11:33 AM
Cleveland they are trying to repeat I mean with the core they have and if they do make any trades after this All Star Break is over I don't see who can stop them in the East

prodigy
02-19-2017, 01:09 PM
Sorry dude... the qualifier was "intelligent" not "homer"

What was homer about his response?

prodigy
02-22-2017, 12:27 PM
Larry Sanders working out with Cavs today.

Yanks All Day
02-22-2017, 02:49 PM
The Cavaliers are going to end up signing Larry Sanders and trading Iman Shumpert for Patrick Beverly. It's been their deadline style for the last two years. They'll move one bad player with a reputation for being good defender for an actual quality defender in Beverly and a big man who will end up playing a huge role down the stretch. The writing is on the wall.

PG: Irving / Beverly
SG: Smith / Korver
SF: LeBron / Jefferson
PF: Love / Sanders
C: Thompson / Frye

This could be the Cavaliers potential lineup after Thursday, which is a LOWER payroll than when they started the year and a more talented roster.

Vee-Rex
02-22-2017, 02:53 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
about 5 minutes ago
Houston covets Iman Shumpert, but the Cavs want Patrick Beverley. And @Calvin Watkins reports that Houston doesn't want to surrender Beverley

Vee-Rex
02-22-2017, 02:54 PM
The Cavaliers are going to end up signing Larry Sanders and trading Iman Shumpert for Patrick Beverly. It's been their deadline style for the last two years. They'll move one bad player with a reputation for being good defender for an actual quality defender in Beverly and a big man who will end up playing a huge role down the stretch. The writing is on the wall.

PG: Irving / Beverly
SG: Smith / Korver
SF: LeBron / Jefferson
PF: Love / Sanders
C: Thompson / Frye

This could be the Cavaliers potential lineup after Thursday, which is a LOWER payroll than when they started the year and a more talented roster.

Dude I'd be so freaking ecstatic if that was our roster. Also D-Will has been outplaying RJ so he'd probably get that spot.