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Scoots
01-24-2017, 07:36 PM
Saw this http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-all-star-game-player-vote-steve-kerr-warriors/pqnhnx1673bs1mu0l520kg0ph

And I heard last week a TV talking head say "It's clear the players value athletic ability over how someone plays the game and above winning".

If, like Kerr says 128 ballots didn't include LeBron and 154 didn't include Durant ... that's just nuts. Even if every single SF voted for themselves that still wouldn't be enough to put up those numbers.

The fan vote has always been worthy of criticism by the fans, the press, the coaches, and the players ... but now the players get a vote and they apparently don't take it seriously?

Does anybody have a link to the breakdown of the players vote?

hugepatsfan
01-24-2017, 07:52 PM
**** Durant I wouldn't vote for him either

warfelg
01-24-2017, 08:02 PM
Does anybody have a link to the breakdown of the players vote?

I can't find who voted for who but here's some sample voting lists:
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What's funny is look at the Sixers voting which clearly is clueless
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Complete player voting:
http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/01/2017-All-Star-Starters-Player-Voting-Results.pdf

It's a sham. Non-starters got a vote. That's complete BS to be honest.

aman_13
01-24-2017, 08:03 PM
Just let the media and coaches vote. Players will show bias and have more fun with it. The stars may take it seriously but a lot of them seem like they don't care. There were a lot of empty ballots.

warfelg
01-24-2017, 08:03 PM
324/450 possible voters put in a ballot.

warfelg
01-24-2017, 08:05 PM
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nailed it!

Giannis94
01-24-2017, 08:30 PM
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nailed it!

Oh they will, if a John Scott situation arises

IndyRealist
01-24-2017, 11:17 PM
Players who voted for themselves or a teammate don't matter, it's one vote out of 450. It's what happens in aggregate that matters, and most players actually voted for who they thought should go. Did you not expect trolling?

Scoots
01-24-2017, 11:32 PM
It's a sham. Non-starters got a vote. That's complete BS to be honest.

I don't mind a non-starter getting a vote ... but 15th men getting a vote is totally nuts.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-24-2017, 11:34 PM
Of course. I knew this was going to happen.

More-Than-Most
01-24-2017, 11:38 PM
I can't find who voted for who but here's some sample voting lists:
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What's funny is look at the Sixers voting which clearly is clueless
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Complete player voting:
http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/01/2017-All-Star-Starters-Player-Voting-Results.pdf

It's a sham. Non-starters got a vote. That's complete BS to be honest.

they afraid bro... THEY ARE AFRAID.

Scoots
01-24-2017, 11:42 PM
Quincy Pondexter got a vote ... hasn't played in 2 years but "someone" think he's one of the top 10 players in the NBA?

Nearly half of the players in the NBA who bothered to vote don't think Durant is a top 10 player in the NBA? Similar numbers for LeBron?

It seems to me they were childish, voting for themselves or lesser teammates as "a joke" and holding grudges against players who have become too famous or something like that.

I don't expect everyone to agree or even for there to be no stupid votes. But the players were so upset about all-star voting they created their own award, so they get their say in the real thing, the game that makes a difference in players actual money and they mess around.

If, as a player, I had a clause in my contract that said if I get an all-star vote I get an extra $10M i'd do it in a heartbeat, but no such justification exists.

It's mostly annoying because of player *****ing in the past.

Scoots
01-24-2017, 11:49 PM
Looking at the chart ... Pachulia got 19 votes from the players ... I guess his fan voting wasn't quite the travesty the players were implying it was. That's more than Blake Griffin and Pau Gasol combined!

Scoots
01-24-2017, 11:52 PM
Hehe, Michael Gbinije got a vote. I think that may be the worst one.

1 FG, 4 PTS, 3 REB, 2 AST ... FOR HIS CAREER!

Scoots
01-25-2017, 12:03 AM
1 player vote was the decider for the eastern conference 2nd starting guard ... I bet Isaiah Thomas would have LOVED for a few of those thrown away votes to have been thrown his way.

FlashBolt
01-25-2017, 12:38 AM
I think the league needs to make the ASG more rewarding so there's an actual objective in trying to win. Every year is the same. One guy just goes bananas shooting the ball and there are the same old dunks that no one tries to guard. There's literally zero incentive for these players other than their sponsorship or more publicity. Can't blame the fans for voting the way they want when NBA doesn't even care about the quality of the ASG. It's become a random ********.

bklynny67
01-25-2017, 04:13 AM
For the most part, this new system worked and players who deserve it are starting. There's no crazy stupid choices like there is every year.

Stop *****ing. At least we won't see the Yao Ming BS anymore with this, and Wade not making it because the fan vote isn't all that counted makes this worth it too.

More-Than-Most
01-25-2017, 06:58 AM
I think the league needs to make the ASG more rewarding so there's an actual objective in trying to win. Every year is the same. One guy just goes bananas shooting the ball and there are the same old dunks that no one tries to guard. There's literally zero incentive for these players other than their sponsorship or more publicity. Can't blame the fans for voting the way they want when NBA doesn't even care about the quality of the ASG. It's become a random ********.

the amazing thing is the league is so moronic.... they have billions and make billions... this isnt baseball/football/hockey... there isnt a ton of all stars... offer a million dollars to each player on the winning team and coach... losing team gets nothing.... the league would make a **** ton on ratings alone because we would get 2 teams trying. it really is a simple fix.

Scoots
01-25-2017, 08:45 AM
I think the league needs to make the ASG more rewarding so there's an actual objective in trying to win. Every year is the same. One guy just goes bananas shooting the ball and there are the same old dunks that no one tries to guard. There's literally zero incentive for these players other than their sponsorship or more publicity. Can't blame the fans for voting the way they want when NBA doesn't even care about the quality of the ASG. It's become a random ********.

The game being mid-season is a problem. The best players are thinking about their team, the playoffs, and getting rest during the week off. And personal pride only does so much ... even Michael Jordan messed around in the ASG.

Scoots
01-25-2017, 08:48 AM
For the most part, this new system worked and players who deserve it are starting. There's no crazy stupid choices like there is every year.

Stop *****ing. At least we won't see the Yao Ming BS anymore with this, and Wade not making it because the fan vote isn't all that counted makes this worth it too.

That's true, but the media were widely criticized as all-star voters by the players and the media voters got it right, and even though it was close the fan vote was pretty good too with the only exception being pretty minor in that Westbrook finished 3rd in western guard voting.

cmellofan15
01-25-2017, 11:52 AM
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nailed it!

Only if you choose to assume players who are complaining about snubs didn't take their vote seriously.

Hawkeye15
01-25-2017, 02:29 PM
the results are awesome

warfelg
01-25-2017, 03:29 PM
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colinskik
01-25-2017, 03:51 PM
It may not have worked, but I agree with the players who didn't vote for Durant. If you want to join an all-star team, them you're not an all-star. My opinion.

Burkey3472
01-25-2017, 04:58 PM
For years the players spoke about how much of a joke the "fans vote" was and that they should get a vote. They finally get a vote and completely screw it up. I'm sure there were plenty of players that took it seriously but the results were an absolute joke. They should have a system like the MLB Hall of Fame voting committee is bringing in where everyone shows their ballot and who they voted for.

BKLYNpigeon
01-25-2017, 05:42 PM
who cares its just an all star game. half of the players in the league are benchwarmers. they don't care about voting.

Jeffy25
01-25-2017, 05:45 PM
For years the players spoke about how much of a joke the "fans vote" was and that they should get a vote. They finally get a vote and completely screw it up. I'm sure there were plenty of players that took it seriously but the results were an absolute joke. They should have a system like the MLB Hall of Fame voting committee is bringing in where everyone shows their ballot and who they voted for.

A lot of good quotes in this thread, especially that tweet by Beck.


NBA players aren't exactly the brightest either, and I think we've long known that.