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[wissportsfan]

Trades:

All trades will be sent to warfelg (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?36839-warfelg) and by a GM of all teams involved. The trade must be responded to that every team in the trade agrees to the terms.

If a trade is deemed unfair by the unnamed trade committee then we can veto the trade by a majority vote.


When writing up a trade please do it in this format:
Team 1 gets:
Player A (Insert Salary # and Roster Bonus if there is one)

Team 1 give:
Player B (Insert Cap Minus Signing Bonus for that year)

Cap Before: (Amount of cap before the trade happened)
Cap After:

Team 2 gets:
Player B (Insert Salary # and Roster Bonus if there is one)

Team 2 give:
Player A (Insert Cap Minus Signing Bonus for that year)

Cap Before: (Amount of cap before the trade happened)
Cap After:

All trades involving draft picks must have the round and pick number or it will be rejected. This rule will be strictly enforced. The trade committee is not a nanny, it is not our job to sort out picks and salaries for you.

[wissportsfan]

Free Agency:

1. All contracts are for one season. Bidder can specify deals in the contract if they want like Base Salary (BS), Signing Bonus (SB), Roster Bonus (RB) but if they don’t, I’ll assume that the money is guaranteed fully.

2. There will be no limit on how many offers you can retract but keep in mind that if you retract an offer and then re-offer a contract to the player there is a VERY good chance you will not be in the running for the player. I will try and give a player update right away saying if the player is fine with the bid or not. Again, it's very unlikely. The player will do in his best interest.

3. You are not allowed to have offers totaling more than your salary cap. Example: If you have 10 mil in cap space you cannot offer 3 free agents each 8 mil deals. That would total 24 mil and put you over 14 mil. Even if you feel one of the players will not sign, you must retract your offer.

4. If you trade a newly signed player, first consult the player to ask if accepts the trade. Some newly signed free agents will be ok with this. Some may not if they signed with your team due to specific reasons. This may also effect your ability to lock in free agents.

5. Free agents do not respond well to insults of other teams bidding. There will be multiple factors taken into account when signing free agents beyond money and team talent.

6. After there have been a decent amount of bids, I’ll try to give an update on the FA player after a couple of days. If there is only one bid the player could sign within 3-5 days. Don't pester players to sign. Some players like to take their time, some think there is a better marked for them than what is being offered.

7. You cannot restructure a free agents contract after you have signed them. The contract you gave them is what they get.

8. Also please specify which team you are in your first post to the player. I know what team most of you are on but it still helps.

9. You can not edit your posts. If you do, you can only edit the description not the amount.

10. After a players bid goes to 35M there will be a PM bid. The opening bid must be less than this amount (example: Opening bid cannot be $35,000,001; but it can be $34,999,999) In this case all teams that are interested in bidding for this player will have one day to get their PMs into me. As soon as 24 hours have passed no more PMs will be accepted for that player. One PM per team. If a trade occurs that changes your cap room and has not been approved before the 24 hour notice, it will be acceptable to assume the trade will be approved and necessary adjustment to your bid will be accepted. However, if no trade was made and two PMs by the same team has been sent to me I will be accepting the 1st PM that I receive. (Please don't abuse that rule)

11. Veteran Minimum Salary Benefit Rule
When qualified, a player with four (4) or more years of NFL experience can earn his total minimum salary, but have a cap figure that reflects two years of experience – or in 2017, $630,000. The contract must be for only one year, and must not contain combined bonus money (signing, roster, workout) that exceeds $90,000.

For instance, let’s pretend Frank Gore signs with the Miami Dolphins in 2018 on a 1 year, minimum salary contract. With 10+ years of experience, he’ll be slotted for a $1,015,000 base salary. With four or more years of experience (11), and a 1 year contract, Gore qualifies for the veteran cap hit benefit. His 2018 cap figure with the Dolphins would be $630,000.

Had he received a bonus (signing, roster, workout) up to the maximum $90,000, he would have received a total $1.105M contract, with a $1M base salary, an $90,000 signing bonus, and a cap figure of $720,000 (630+90).

With plenty of veterans being released, or not signed back thus far in 2018, the use of the Minimum Salary Benefit Rule becomes useful both for older players looking for jobs, and teams looking to minimize their cap dollars.

12. Minimum Salaries

Years of NFL experience-Salary


0: 495,000
1: 570,000
2: 645,000
3: 720,000
4-6:805,000
7-9: 930,000
10: 1,000,000

[wissportsfan]

We will have a normal 2 round draft. After that we'll go to a bidding system.

In the first round each team has 2 hours.

In the 2nd round each team has 1 hour.

If you have back to back picks your time slot will count as one pick. Your time slot is given next to your teams pick. The time is in EST. If the team before you has picked you do not have to wait for your time slot. However, you are allowed until the end of that time slot, even if you log off.

After your time is up your team will be skipped. You can send your pick to me or any other GM to make your pick on time.

The clock will be on pause from 1 am EST - 8 am EST. If someone is supposed to be on in this time, you cannot skip them until 10 am EST the following day.

If for some reason you know do not want to pick please post that you forfeit your pick. If you got a question PM/VM warfelg (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?36839-warfelg).

[Super.]

Rules

Salary Cap:

You MUST keep track of your salary cap. Predetermined individuals will have control over the salaries in google docs. My suggest is for you to download that file and keep track of it. We want to keep this game as fair and fun as possible.

You cannot go over the cap at any time. If you do it will be handled accordingly.

Some teams will be starting over the cap. That means they must cut salary (via cuts and trades) to below cap max before they are allowed to


Draft
Sign free agents
Franchise tag
Accepting Team Options


If you want to cut a player your team will be saving their base salary (BS) and their roster or other bonus (RB). The signing bonus (SB) stays with the team.

Trading players isn’t much different, the team receiving a player has to account for that players BS and RB. The team trading the player has to account for the SB just as if they were cutting him.

A player’s cap is how much that player is costing you, which means BS + SB + RB = player cap for that year.

I realize some of you aren’t that great at math so if you have any questions you can ask Super or any other GM. Google docs will be the official salaries. The Google docs will have built in formulas for tracking salaries, and are easy to use. If you keep it on there it will be simple to know where you stand at all times.

You'll need 51-53 players on your roster by the end of the mock.

The Salary Cap is set at 190M.


Restructuring Contracts:
Each team is limited to the amount of players that they can restructure. Each team may approach 3 players and ask them to restructure a contract. One restructure offer is allowed at a time.

To restructure a players contract you must post in the restructure thread with the previous salary, SB, and RB, and the proposed salary, SB, and RB and reasoning why the player should take a pay cut. I will respond to each reply.

Once a team reaches 3 offers to players, additional offers can be appealed for to the commissioner via PM AFTER all 3 restructures have been used. This will be done on a case by case basis. One extra restructure max.

You cannot restructure a free agents contract after you have signed them. The contract you gave them is what they get.

Players on rookie contracts cannot have their salaries restructured as per league rules.


Free Agency:

All contracts are for one season. Bidder can specify deals in the contract if they want like BS, SB, RB but if they don’t, I’ll assume that the money is GUARANTEED.

There will be no limit on how many offers you can retract but keep in mind that if you retract an offer and then re-offer a contract to the player there is a VERY good chance you will not be in the running for the player. I will try and give a player update right away saying if the player is fine with the bid or not. Again, it's very unlikely. The player will do in his best interest.

You are not allowed to have offers totaling more than your salary cap. Example: If you have 10 mil in cap space you cannot offer 3 free agents 8 mil deals. That would put you over 14 mil. Even if you feel one of the players will not sign, you must retract your offer. If you go over the Salary Cap while offering deals none of your current offers will be valid until you retract enough offers to get back under.

If you trade a newly signed player, you must first consult the player to ask if accepts the trade. All trades will be voided without the newly signed player's consent.

Free agents do not respond well to insults of other teams bidding. There will be multiple factors taken into account when signing free agents beyond money and team talent.

After a players bid goes to 35M there will be a PM bid. Blind bids are FULLY GUARANTEED. In this case all teams that are interested in bidding for this player will have one day (24 hours) to get their PMs into me. As soon as 24 hours have passed no more PMs will be accepted for that player. One PM per team. If a trade occurs that changes your cap room and has not been approved before the 24 hour notice, it will be acceptable to assume the trade will be approved and necessary adjustment to your bid will be accepted. However, if no trade was made and two PMs by the same team has been sent to me I will be accepting the 1st PM that I receive. (Please don't abuse that rule). Bids must be at least 35M. Once it gets to bidding whoever has the highest bid will sign the player.

After there have been a decent amount of bids, I’ll try to give an update on the FA player after a couple of days. If there is only one bid the player could sign within 3-5 days.

Undrafted Free Agents (UDFA) - All UDFA's are now automatically sign with the first team that offers them a contract. UDFA's cost $495,000. Teams may make one post and list the UDFA's they're signing.
***NEW*** - There is a max of 5 UDFA signings per team per 12 hour span.

DO NOT at any point PM the player agent about signing a free agent. This is considered tampering and will result in fines and/or loss of draft picks



Trades:

All trades will be sent to Wrench - Super. - Warfelg
If a trade is deemed unfair by the TC, then it will be veto'd. The teams will be notified and can attempt to redo the trade. Let me say with 100% certainty that we as the TC are not out to get you. If we veto a trade that means there is good ****ing reason that we veto'd the trade. Do not ***** moan and carry on about it.

Trading of cash is not allowed.


Trades should look like this

Team A Sends
Player X - 10M BS, 1M RB ; 4M SB (Dead Money by trading team)
1st (15th overall)

Team B Sends
Player Y - .5M BS, .5M RB ; 0 SB
Player Z - 5M BS, .5M RB ; 5M SB (Dead Money by trading team)
2nd ( 40th overall)
3rd (55th overall)
6th (199th overall)

Team A's Salary Before: 135M
Team A's Salary After: 130.5M

Team B's Salary Before: 115M
Team B's Salary After: 119.5M



Draft:

The draft will be two rounds. The rest of the draft will be a bidding system.

For the bidding format you will bid your draft pick. After two days of being open the thread will close and the person with the highest draft pick bid will sign the player for minimum.

Salaries in rounds 1 and 2 are noted in the NFL Mock Google Drive Folder -

In round 1 and 2 I will give each team a time slot.


Relationship to Real-Life:

All retirements that happen in real-life happen in here too. So, plan according if you have a player that is possible considering retirement. If a player retires after clubhouses lock, he will be considered active for the game.

All arrests that happen in real-life happen in here too.

Any injuries that might occur over the time of the mock happens in here too. If a player on your roster has a potential career ending injury, you may try to appeal his cap hit. There are no guarantees, but there is a chance the hit could be appealed.


End of the Offseason:

At the end of the offseason we’ll have our usual voting system where GMs will vote on every team excluding their own. Top 12 teams will be in the playoffs with the top 4 seeds getting byes. All playoff voting will happen in the NFL main forum. Only your roster will be posted with base formations.

[Super.]

Holdouts

Players can and will holdout from playing. These are the 5 reasons for which a player will hold out.

1.) Player thinks he deserves a bigger contract, holds out unless GM gives it to him or talks him out of it
2.) Player plays 2 positions over the course of the year. Gets franchise tagged for the position that pays the least. Player holds out unless traded or paid the amount for the higher paying franchise tag
3.) Player receives an insulting low restructure offer. Holds out until cut or traded
4.) Player promised a starting position and the minutes that being a starter entails. Holds out when another is promised his position or minutes until the situation is rectified.
5. Team signs a player that threatens that players starting position and the starter is upset about it.

To deal with a holdout, a GM must respond in the Holdouts thread. A GM can do a few things to rectify a player holding out. They can talk a player out of it. Offer the player a new contract, or trade the player. Offering a holdout a new contract does not count as a restructure offer.

[Super.]

Clubhouse Rules

You are expected to keep clubhouses up to date.

At bare minimum you must keep your current salary obligations updated at all times. GMs will have 4 hours to update their rosters after trades or cutting players. If you cannot meet the deadline, please PM me.

There will be clubhouse checks randomly (both announced and unannounced) throughout the mock, any team that isn't within spec, your team will suffer a fine

Clubhouse fines
1st - Warning
2nd - 500k
3rd+ - 1M

[Super.]

Roster Bonus

New Rules (as of 2016) for the Roster Bonus

On March 1st at 12:01AM EST all roster bonus will be guaranteed. Before they're treated like salary for purposes of cutting, trading, and restructuring. Afterwards roster bonus's will be treated like signing bonuses and eaten when the player is cut or traded.

[Super.]

TEAM SALARIES (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EkdUARRJ-ZaCqAfz49ShzukHhMWHXPa_)

The team salaries are set up with formulas. You can copy and save to edit for your own tracking. Added is a total cap calculator.

At some point before trading starts the team salary page will have your available picks to trade as well.

DRAFT PICKS INC. COMP PICKS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/197KpYnsO6K-xNZLaz2ORkRpLQdJw5dED2n6AoiQo2KQ/edit?usp=sharing)

DRAFT PICK SALARIES (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qoRAr7oQABS3VPbt9kh2njHAFngKy5RzAbvYHQlxF88/edit?usp=sharing)

[Super.]

League Contraction & Draft Picks

As of 2017 Teams will be selected via a draft. There will be 28 picks. The 4 teams that are not drafted will have any players that are still under contract enter the draft. Any UFA, RFAs, and ERFAs will become free agents. However, at the Commissioners discretion the following players will instead enter free agency if their teams are not selected

Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Russell Wilson
Drew Brees
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton
Matthew Stafford
Andrew Luck
Philip Rivers
Von Miller
Khalil Mack
Aaron Donald
Julio Jones
Antonio Brown
Odell Beckham Jr
DeAndre Hopkins
Rob Gronkowski



Any remaining players would then be able for selection in the draft at draft pick salaries. For example if Nate Solder was drafted, he would be at the salary of that pick, not his old one.

This not only will eliminate the utterly terrible teams, but increase both free agency and increases the value of draft picks.

[Soop]

Go to the link below and Sign up/Log in.

http://nflmock.chatango.com/



Super Edit: Choose an easy name like "YournamePSD" and try and avoid numbers or x's

FYI PEOPLE, CHATANGO WILL NOW BLOCK YOU FOR 15 MINUTES FOR "NON-NONSENSICAL POSTING.

PHRASES LIKE 'K' AND 'AHHH' AND 'HAHA' TRIGGERS OUT. IT MAKES YOU POST SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE.

[Norm]

We can use this to sext you can send images..mmmmmmm

Can we message other people in that who are online directly? Do you know?

[Soop]

We can use this to sext you can send images..mmmmmmm

Can we message other people in that who are online directly? Do you know?

I left images/videos/links on, if you guys want it off just say so. Shouldn't be a problem if people don't abuse it with porn.

I think if you type the "@" before their name they get the notification.

[Soop]

I just sent Thomas a pm, if we can add the groups embed html code we can have the live chat room box (and other features) on the site. I can't promise it can be done but it's worth trying.

[Norm]

I left images/videos/links on, if you guys want it off just say so. Shouldn't be a problem if people don't abuse it with porn.

I think if you type the "@" before their name they get the notification.

haha. No that's fine. I think we already know not to do that. I was just surprised it could take it right from my phone's cam.

But if you do the @ thing everyone can see it so if I wanted to go back and forth for like talking about a trade that I don't want anyone to see, I need to use PM's or whatever, that's what I'm getting at I guess. If that makes sense?

I'm on PC now but I can private chat you, nice. This should work just fine. That's all I was worried about.

[Giannis94]

I left images/videos/links on, if you guys want it off just say so. Shouldn't be a problem if people don't abuse it with porn.

I think if you type the "@" before their name they get the notification.

guess who's going to get DM'd Giannis pics?

[Soop]

guess who's going to get DM'd Giannis pics?

Guess who's likely to get banned?

[Giannis94]

Guess who's likely to get banned?

Well I guess you have a valid point. I can't get banned if the site keeps freezing up like it has been in recent weeks.

[Soop]

Well I guess you have a valid point. I can't get banned if the site keeps freezing up like it has been in recent weeks.

Sure you can, I could always use vBulletin's Mod Control Panel. :D

[Giannis94]

Sure you can, I could always use vBulletin's Mod Control Panel. :D

Me right now= liberals when they realized that Trump will have access and control the nuclear codes

[Super.]

It'd be cool if I could make a username on this bloody chat that doesnt have 12 numbers or xxxxx

[Soop]

It'd be cool if I could make a username on this bloody chat that doesnt have 12 numbers or xxxxx

try something like Super.PSD or PSDSuper., if those are taken add chatango lol

[Norm]

try something like Super.PSD or PSDSuper., if those are taken add chatango lol
Derp.why didn't I think to add psd....instead of stupid xx. I might make a new one lol.

[Super.]

try something like Super.PSD or PSDSuper., if those are taken add chatango lol

Good idea

[Norm]

That automoderation stuff is a pure buzzkill lol. Can't that be shut off? I shared an image link once, nope, can't post this "this post doesn't appear to make sense." Then I just said yowassup "this does not make sense" i get it's a lazy crap post and I didn't hit space but do we really need those messages deleted before there posted when there's so few ppl gonna be in it? It's just random spam protection, I feel like we don't need it. I didn't care at first but it seems like it happens a lot to me now.

[Soop]

I'll take it off now

[warfelg]

Player Options
Drew Brees - NO - TEAM - -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$0 $18,000,000 $0 $18,000,000
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Josh Sitton - CHI - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$7,400,000 $666,668 $506,250 $8,572,918
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Brandon Carr - BAL - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$4,500,000 $1,000,000 $1,500,000 $7,000,000
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Adam Pacman Jones - CIN- TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$5,300,000 $666,668 $481,250 $6,447,918
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Austin Howard - BAL - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$1,500,000 $1,000,000 $2,500,000 $5,000,000
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Torrey Smith - PHI - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$5,000,000 $0 $0 $5,000,000
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Alan Branch - NE - TEAM - ACCEPTED

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$1,700,000 $1,000,000 $1,850,000 $4,550,000
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Marcedes Lewis - JAC - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$3,500,000 $0 $250,000 $3,750,000
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Cordarrelle Patterson - OAK - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$3,000,000 $0 $250,000 $3,250,000
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Josh Robinson - TB - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$1,750,000 $125,000 $0 $1,875,000
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Mychal Rivera - JAC - TEAM -

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$,250,000 $0 $250,000 $1,500,000
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Donald Stephenson - DEN - TEAM - ACCEPTED

BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS CAP HIT
$0 $1,000,000 $0 $1,000,000

[warfelg]

Due to a goof, JuWaun James was signed in FA when he should be in the draft.

This will not be undone so James is unavailable to be drafted.

Rounds 1 & 2 are normal PSD redraft style

Rd1 Gets 1 hour time window
Rd2 Gets 1/2 hour time window

You have til the end of the hour or half hour listed. Do not skip a pick until the end of that time occurs. You may make a pick early, but are not required to. The pick times are listed by number in case you want to make a trade. All times are based on EST.

Ownership of picks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Icdc1UQhXgeCUfYCY2pqvvXn1Ej3GXS9PeIrYDo3qp8/edit#gid=0

SEND LISTS



1 - 2/18 12 noon - Chandler Jones - NE
2 - 2/18 1 pm - Patrick Peterson - DEN
3 - 2/18 2 pm - Skip
4 - 2/18 3 pm - David Johnson - SEA
5 - 2/18 4 pm - Larry Fitzgerald - LAC
6 - 2/18 5 pm - Cam Wake - SEA
7 - 2/18 6 pm - Ndamukong Suh - TB
8 - 2/18 7 pm - Skip
9 - 2/18 8 pm - Terrell Suggs - SF
10 - 2/18 9 pm - CJ Mosley - SEA
11 - 2/18 10 pm - Skip
12 - 2/18 11 pm - Skip
13 - 2/19 8 am - Tyronne Mathieu - WAS
14 - 2/19 9 am - Jimmy Smith - KC
15 - 2/19 10 am - Skip
16 - 2/19 11 am - Skip
17 - 2/19 12 noon - Akiem Hicks - CLE
18 - 2/19 1 pm - Eric Weddle - GB
19 - 2/19 2 pm - Skip
20 - 2/19 3 pm - Reshad Jones - CLE
21 - 2/19 4 pm - Skip
22 - 2/19 5 pm - Skip
23 - 2/19 6 pm - Jordan Howard - CAR
24 - 2/19 7 pm - Danny Trevathon - CAR
25 - 2/19 8 pm - Tony Jefferson - SEA
26 - 2/19 9 pm - Joe Flacco - MIN
27 - 2/19 10 pm - Marlon Humphrey - NYG
28 - 2/19 11 pm - Adrian Amos - PIT
29 - 2/20 8 am - Marshall Yanda - TB
30 - 2/20 9 am - Budda Baker - MIN
31 - 2/20 10 am - Matt Judon - LAC
32 - 2/20 11 am - Brandon Williams - NO




33 - 2/20 12 noon - Xavien Howard - CLE
34 - 2/20 12:30 pm - Ronnie Stanley - GB
35 - 2/20 1:00 pm - Ryan Tannehill - CLE
36 - 2/20 1:30 pm - Skip
37 - 2/20 2:00 pm - Kenny Stills - ATL
38 - 2/20 2:30 pm - Jerrell Freeman - TB
39 - 2/20 3:00 pm - Skip
40 - 2/20 3:30 pm - Mike Pouncey - LAC
41 - 2/20 4:00 pm - Charles Leno Jr. - NYG
42 - 2/20 4:30 pm - Skip
43 - 2/20 5:00 pm - Leonard Floyd - LAC
44 - 2/20 5:30 pm - Kiko Alonso - PIT
45 - 2/20 6:00 pm - Pernell McPhee - PIT
46 - 2/20 6:30 pm - Skip
47 - 2/20 7:00 pm - Skip
48 - 2/20 7:30 pm - Markus Golden - LAC
49 - 2/20 8:00 pm - Kyle Long - NYJ
50 - 2/20 8:30 pm - Skip
51 - 2/20 9:00 pm - Saquan Barkley - DET
52 - 2/20 9:30 pm - Skip
53 - 2/20 10:00 pm - Skip
54 - 2/20 10:30 pm - Bradley "I got a" Chubb - DEN
55 - 2/20 11:00 pm - Deone "my PFF score is low so everyone got scared to take me even though I'm better than half of the last ten guys taken" Bucannon - DEN
56 - 2/20 11:30 pm - Skip
57 - 2/21 8:00 am - DeVante Parker - TEN
58 - 2/21 8:30 am - Kenyan Drake - NYG
59 - 2/21 9:00 am - Antoine Bethea - PIT
60 - 2/21 9:30 am - Eddie Jackson - LAC
61 - 2/21 10:00 am - Minkah Fitzpatrick - JAC
62 - 2/21 10:30 am - Michael Pierce - LAC
63 - 2/21 11:00 am
64 - 2/21 11:30 am - TJ McDonald - CAR

[Quinnsanity]

Are people using the instant chat yet? We know who's doing FA? We letting all of the dupes play?

[Wrench]

Hewoo.

If we get enough teams I'd be fine running this thing and doing FA if needed.

Willing to take on a newbie co if they want to learn if not though.

[HunterNRoss]

Are people using the instant chat yet? We know who's doing FA? We letting all of the dupes play?

Probably wont get a chat till the game is about to start.

TO said he posted the info for the mock on a FB group hes apart of. Some of those new accounts came from there.

[Finesser]

Hi, I’ll be active so I won’t need a Co. So if I can get a spot that would be great

[Super.]

Guess whose back

back again

tell some men (probably just TO)

[rapjuicer06]

You playing this year sup or are you the running it?

[Super.]

You playing this year sup or are you the running it?

Playing, Im done running the game, though Im always around to help.

[warfelg]

I'm going to take care of running it. My new work schedule gives me 3 good windows a day to make updates so it's a little better for my schedule from that end. I'm going through everything and trying to update it now.

[warfelg]

Franchise Tags are EXCLUSIVE and players cannot be signed in free agency

Transition Tags are NON Exclusive and players can be signed if the signing team forfeits a 1st and 2nd round pick. Tending team can match the contract. If the Contract is not matched and the signing team has multiple picks in the 1st/2nd the team losing the player will get the BETTER of the picks (IE 1st overall or 20th overall, they get the 1st).


POSITION FRANCHISE TAG TRANSITION TAG
Cornerback $15,750,000 $13,500,000
Defensive End $17,750,000 $14,500,000
Defensive Tackle $15,225,000 $12,500,000
Linebacker $16,000,000 $13,500,000
Offensive Line $15,500,000 $12,000,000
Punter/Kicker $5,250,000 $4,725,000
Quarterback $22,500,000 $20,000,000
Running Back $13,750,000 $11,000,000
Safety $12,250,000 $10,500,000
Tight End $10,500,000 $8,750,000
Wide Receiver $16,500,000 $14,000,000

Contracts are half signing bonus and half roster bonus

[warfelg]

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[warfelg]

Put them here. Will try to answer when I can. Or if someone else has the answer they can put it here.

[warfelg]

Some rules have been changing.....be sure to check in on them to avoid violating them.

[Quinnsanity]

Can we do something about the blind bidding for QBs? It clearly didn't work last year.

[Super.]

Can we do something about the blind bidding for QBs? It clearly didn't work last year.

It depends on who is a free agent TBH, but yes a system in place would be ideal. I feel like we had thought of a solution last year after the fact but I forget about it now

[Quinnsanity]

My take would be set a max (idk, 50 million for argument's sake which is around what Brees went for last year if I recall), and anyone who wants to meet that max can make a one PM pitch. Commish decides from there.

[Wrench]

I think last year the issue was we had two top level guys as FAs so as Super said it depends on who is a FA.

[warfelg]

I think last year the issue was we had two top level guys as FAs so as Super said it depends on who is a FA.

There is a plan in place, it depends who's there, and it won't be announced until we know who's there.

[Super.]

what exactly were the complaints against what happened last year? I dont remember

[Wrench]

Both went to blind bidding as soon as FA opened.

We kinda fixed it by doing Brees for a day and then Cousins after but people who where in on them lost out on some of the other big time FAs.


If we have that issue again I say do that again but don't allow anyone to sign till these QBs sign.

[warfelg]

Both went to blind bidding as soon as FA opened.

We kinda fixed it by doing Brees for a day and then Cousins after but people who where in on them lost out on some of the other big time FAs.


If we have that issue again I say do that again but don't allow anyone to sign till these QBs sign.

I have a plan in place, I won't say what it is unless we hit what it takes. I want to let team picking, trades, tags happen before I say what's going to happen so I don't impact those 3 aspects.

Basically if we hit the situation, I'm going to post the rules for whats going to happen at that point.

[Quinnsanity]

How closely are we holding to reality with franchise tags?

Two examples: Drew Brees has a clause in his contract that forbids franchise tags. Can he be tagged in game?

Le'Veon Bell said he'd consider retirement/holding out all season if he gets tagged again. Will that happen in game?

[Quinnsanity]

Oh, and Kirk Cousins too. Will he get the typical QB tag, or does he get the massive third year in a row tag?

[warfelg]

How closely are we holding to reality with franchise tags?

Two examples: Drew Brees has a clause in his contract that forbids franchise tags. Can he be tagged in game?

Le'Veon Bell said he'd consider retirement/holding out all season if he gets tagged again. Will that happen in game?

You'll just have to see what happens with them.


Oh, and Kirk Cousins too. Will he get the typical QB tag, or does he get the massive third year in a row tag?

I think that in the past it's been the tag or 10% over what the previous salary was if retagged. I'll think about it.

[Quinnsanity]

You'll just have to see what happens with them.



I think that in the past it's been the tag or 10% over what the previous salary was if retagged. I'll think about it.

You can't expect us to pick teams without knowing the rules...

[warfelg]

You can't expect us to pick teams without knowing the rules...

Yes I can. Especially that Bell one. It's part of the risk of taking the Steelers.

[Super.]

I dont understand the confusion.

Bell said he'd retire if tagged, so tag him and trade him, or renegotiate a bigger contract with him when he holds out.

Brees clearly cant be tagged per his contract


An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater

Cousins would get 28732320.

It aint that hard

[warfelg]

If you are tagging a player that was previously playing under the tag:
An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater

Drew Brees can not be tagged per his contract.

[warfelg]

I dont understand the confusion.

Bell said he'd retire if tagged, so tag him and trade him, or renegotiate a bigger contract with him when he holds out.

Brees clearly cant be tagged per his contract



Cousins would get 28732320.

It aint that hard

To add on the the Bell thing:
There is a holdout thread where players may announce stuff like that. It’s part of the risk of tagging or lying to a player or asking them to take too big of a restructure. A player from any team that feels mistreated could hold out, demand a trade, or ask for more money.

Yes there are some situations where a player has said something publicly and it’s most likely to follow that. There may be a surprise holdout or two that little has been hinted at publicly.

It’s the inherent risk of running a franchise.

[WarriorPride]

Getting antsy for the draft. Anxious to know which shithole team I'll probably be working with.

[warfelg]

2/27 - rounds 3-7 close at 9 pm - highest bids at that point win

2/28 - all day: Auto sign

3/2 - clubhouses lock at noon

3/4 - votes due by mindnight - rank from best to worst

3/6 - playoffs announced

[warfelg]

24 hours teams will have a chance to enter exclusive talks with 2 of their own FA's (this is new and an increase from the past).

In this time you and only you will be able to talk to your players offering a new contract. In this time players will respond. Like real FA, some players are more open than others to return, some won't be. This would allow you to either sign a player earlier and keep him from FA or get a leg up by starting negotiations and setting the starting price.

[warfelg]

Check in here


KTS
BDawk
TO
mngoph
HnR
Eagles
Homie
Andrei
Giannis
Cronin
Strive
Warrior - Ledy
Rap
Quin
Wrench
Super
Finesser
UTB
Jetsforever
Thomas
I Stole Home
TDj
Ajayi
bvchawk
Cracka
Homestar
Sadds
I am bob
richie
weeman

[rapjuicer06]

present

[mngopher35]

Yup

[ThomasTomasz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8avWJIwyxY

[BDawk4Prez]

Regardless of the nonsense that KJ speaks of, we are here.

[WarriorPride]

Ledy and I are both here.

[warfelg]

Guys, bear with me. I'm hoping to finish up team salary tables, draft order, and updating some salary tables. Announcements for timing is up.

[Wrench]

Hi

[homie564]

Ayyy


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[Ledy]

Yep I’m here

[Quinnsanity]

Yes I can. Especially that Bell one. It's part of the risk of taking the Steelers.


I dont understand the confusion.

Bell said he'd retire if tagged, so tag him and trade him, or renegotiate a bigger contract with him when he holds out.

Brees clearly cant be tagged per his contract



Cousins would get 28732320.

It aint that hard

We have never once in this game had a situation like Brees where a player contractually could not be tagged. I think that absolutely warrants clarification before people commit to teams. Anyone who takes the Saints, especially with the influx of new players this year, should know that they do not have Brees. He is a free agent and pitching typically plays very little role in this game.

As far as Bell goes, it's more possible that we've had a similar situation in game, but I can't recall one where a player said IRL that he would not play under the tag and then someone tagged him in game. The closest I can recall is Weddle with me two years ago, and well, how did that decision end up looking in hindsight?

And with Cousins, again, I don't remember if we've ever taken past tags into account, so worth clarification.

I just want clarification. That's all. Whatever the rule is, it should be stated as clearly as possible before people pick their teams. I'm fine with some ambiguity on Bell's part because there's more ambiguity IRL, but with Cousins and Brees, I think the specifics should be laid out beforehand because the way things have typically worked in this game obviously are not always applicable to real life. Transparency is not a bad thing.

[Quinnsanity]

Here.

[killthesux]

hi

[warfelg]

We've always done that if there's something that's announced IRL before the game ends it goes in the game.

The Brees one it's in his contract.

The Cousins situation has happened before. It's in the rules.

As far as the Bell situation:
He said he may hold out or retire. That gives a lot of leeway for what can happen there. There shouldn't be any clarification. If he retires IRL, he's retired. If he gets tagged and doesn't retire IRL, his agent can react in quite a few ways. There's some things that will just happen even if it doesn't in real life, and it's a risk that you take in making certain moves.

[TO Rapz]

so hot

[TO Rapz]

Guess whose back

back again

tell some men (probably just TO)

Im sexy

Im still not over the Saints loss :(

[TO Rapz]

Let me know if u need help War

[warfelg]

Let me know if u need help War

I'm good. Snow day today, and being off 2 days before payday will give me the time. I only got 2 more teams to do.

[Wrench]

Should be taken into account that Brees has also said he doesn't plan to take offers from other teams so that should play a large role into him just resigning with the Saints.

[Super.]

TBH I had read on Weddle that he really wanted to remain on the West Coast and was only going to sign out West. In retrospect it was wrong lol.

Bell should hold out in game if tagged, he blatantly said hes going to do something drastic if tagged.

And to top if off Kaepernick could be tagged last year either (despite the fact that we knew he wasnt going to be)

[Super.]

We're not doing the team draft for 3 weeks?

[Super.]

no

[Wrench]

We're not doing the team draft for 3 weeks?

Yea seems a bit much. Just start it once everyone checks in and run it without a clock atleast.

[warfelg]

We're not doing the team draft for 3 weeks?

We can start sooner. I was setting it up to wait until after the superbowl incase that sways someones pick. I can move the start stuff all up a week and open trading the day after the superbowl.

[TO Rapz]

Well, atleast do the team draft sooner so maybe people can plan for a while how to attack the game. Just my opinion.

[TO Rapz]

And lets be real whos actually gona watch the SB now that the Saints are out :(

[Super.]

We should definitely have the draft once everyone is checked in.

[Finesser]

Here

[Wrench]

The four teams left are for sure getting picked and high most likely. Hell last year the Atlanta team ended up winning this after that epic meltdown.

[Super.]

The four teams left are for sure getting picked and high most likely. Hell last year the Atlanta team ended up winning this after that epic meltdown.

keep going im almost there

[Super.]

That being said, wheres everyone in the chat

[HunterNRoss]

here

[Super.]

Updated for 2018

[homestarunner93]

I would hope the Super Bowl wouldn't sway anyone's choice unless the Vikings decapitate Brady on-field.

[Super.]

I would hope the Super Bowl wouldn't sway anyone's choice unless the Vikings decapitate Brady on-field.

I mean ****, that could happen on Sunday, I dont trust our pass blocking in the slightest

[I Stole Home]

here

[jetsforever]

Bonjour

[AjayiDaGod]

Here

[EAGLES3658]

Here

[Sadds The Gr8]

here

[Andrei00]

Here

[Quinnsanity]

TBH I had read on Weddle that he really wanted to remain on the West Coast and was only going to sign out West. In retrospect it was wrong lol.

Bell should hold out in game if tagged, he blatantly said hes going to do something drastic if tagged.

And to top if off Kaepernick could be tagged last year either (despite the fact that we knew he wasnt going to be)

I'm not blaming you for the Weddle situation because you were doing what IRL suggested. It just turned out that what Weddle said IRL didn't actually match what he DID. Which is sort of the point with Le'Veon. Do we really think he would actually sit out the entire season just because he suggested he might?

But that's not entirely important. All I wanted was clarification and I got it. As far as Brees not taking offers from other teams, I think that's where the exclusive window comes into play. If the Saints make a competitive offer, even if it's not the absolute most he can make on the open market, he should take it.

[warfelg]

I'm not blaming you for the Weddle situation because you were doing what IRL suggested. It just turned out that what Weddle said IRL didn't actually match what he DID. Which is sort of the point with Le'Veon. Do we really think he would actually sit out the entire season just because he suggested he might?

But that's not entirely important. All I wanted was clarification and I got it. As far as Brees not taking offers from other teams, I think that's where the exclusive window comes into play. If the Saints make a competitive offer, even if it's not the absolute most he can make on the open market, he should take it.

I mean, the thing there is (1) if he actually does it IRL before we close clubby’s, based on the rules he’s retired. (2) As far as how he reacts he’s said so many things. He’s said he wants to get paid, or he’ll hold out, and just the other day he tweeted he wants to be a Steeler for life. He’s a bit unpredictable, and if we go into the game know what he’ll do, it takes some of the element of that out.

Basically I am going to hold similar to what Super has built in that things a player has said IRL has an effect on how they react to certain things in the game. That’s something I feel you can’t stray from.

But there still has to be an inherent risk with any GM that wrong moves could offend players. I can’t point to any single player and say exactly what will happen.

Hence why I say you just have to take that risk. Maybe he sits out. Maybe he demands a trade. Maybe he demands more money. Basically the actions of the GM is going to determine what happens.

[WarriorPride]

Are there any redrafts on this site anymore?

[Giannis94]

.

[i am bob]

Heyo

[rapjuicer06]

Is the 49ers cap right? They have something like 117 million in cap space this year? Is that all because of carry over? Very confused.

[Wrench]

I don't think we use the rollover in this, and yea they have like 60m that's rolling over.

[rapjuicer06]

Gotcha. I knew we didn't use rollover, when I saw their cap I was like well **** lol

[warfelg]

Gotcha. I knew we didn't use rollover, when I saw their cap I was like well **** lol

Yea. The numbers in the sheet is based off the $176mil number we’re going to use.

The $117mil comes from their rollover.

There’s 2 teams too that have space IRL and little to none on here.

[rapjuicer06]

Gotcha, makes sense.

[Finesser]

When’s this start?

[StriveGreatness]

Hi

[Super.]

When’s this start?

Once everyone checks in we can do the team draft, once that gets done we can hopefully start

[Super.]

If you take the Steelers, and tag Bell, be prepared for his holdout. Its not hard guys.

[homie564]

What happens if Bell isn’t tagged/renegotiated and signs with a team but decides to “retire” in real life?


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[warfelg]

What happens if Bell isn’t tagged/renegotiated and signs with a team but decides to “retire” in real life?


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If he retires before clubhouses lock then he's retired. That's been the way we've always handled real life retirements.

[rapjuicer06]

Even if he retires because they franchise him and he wasn't franchised in this game? To me that doesn't make sense.

[warfelg]

Even if he retires because they franchise him and he wasn't franchised in this game? To me that doesn't make sense.

Directly from the rules:



Relationship to Real-Life:

All retirements that happen in real-life happen in here too. So, plan according if you have a player that is possible considering retirement. If a player retires after clubhouses lock, he will be considered active for the game.

All arrests that happen in real-life happen in here too.

Any injuries that might occur over the time of the mock happens in here too. If a player on your roster has a potential career ending injury, you may try to appeal his cap hit. There are no guarantees, but there is a chance the hit could be appealed.

That’s the rule. That’s it. Deal.

[TO Rapz]

So which 4 teams are we cutting? Just the 4 that dont go in the team draft or predetermined?

[warfelg]

So which 4 teams are we cutting? Just the 4 that dont go in the team draft or predetermined?

The 4 not picked via draft.

[TO Rapz]

so hot

[WarriorPride]

How many more GM's do we have left that have not checked in?

[Super.]

He'd actually have to file his retirenment papers for that to happen. ****ing relax people.

If you take the Steelers, have a plan to deal with Bell, its not hard

[Wrench]

Like 7. Not a great sign at the start.

[richiesaurus310]

Here

[TDjacksonville]

I'm just here so I don't get fined

[warfelg]

I'm just here so I don't get fined

Fined.

[Super.]

Like 7. Not a great sign at the start.

But only one team space left

[weeman323]

:hi5:

[unleashthebeast]

ya

[homestarunner93]

woops forgot to post in here but I have been around

[TO Rapz]

Roll with 22 teams.

[TO Rapz]

Cluster the 7 that didnt sign in to 3 teams of 2 cos + 1 spare assistant

[Wrench]

TO your behind I believe 28 have signed in now

[Super.]

We're actually at like 29 right now lol

[TDjacksonville]

We're actually at like 29 right now lol

if your edit is correct its something like 27 out of 30(UTB wasnt edited as checked it but he has)

[Wrench]

Norm posted he wanted to play as well that puts us at 28. I say let's roll with that. Guys who show up now can Co with someone and take over a team that someone leaves behind as it always happens.

Let's get that draft order out :jumpy:

[TO Rapz]

Yea lets get this baby going

[warfelg]

Draft order will come out later today. Meant to do it last night but we’ll,..,life.

[TO Rapz]

How dare you have a life

[Norm]

Do I not have a team?

[Norm]

How dare you have a life

Nobody on this site has a life except one person...

[Norm]

Hey. Go to chantango douches

[homie564]

Nobody on this site has a life except one person...

Glad to see you’re back!


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[TO Rapz]

Nobody on this site has a life except one person...

The game just started and you're already ripping on TDJ :facepalm:

[rapjuicer06]

Still waiting for that draft order...

[killthesux]

Still waiting for that draft order...

Draft order

1. KTS
2-27. Everyone else not including TO
28. TO

[TO Rapz]

Draft order

1. KTS
2-27. Everyone else not including TO
28. TO

I dont want the Browns :(

[killthesux]

I dont want the Browns :(

just pick Marcus Williams and build your team around him

[TDjacksonville]

The game just started and you're already ripping on TDJ :facepalm:

i work more hours then u could handle doing :P

[TO Rapz]

just pick Marcus Williams and build your team around him
still better than CLEVELAND


i work more hours then u could handle doing :P
I work 40 hours a week now lol, on a 15M dollar project for a railway company. Travel back and forth from Montreal to North Bay

[I Stole Home]

when will we get the draft order

[Wrench]

War said tomorrow by noon in the chat group.

[Super.]

I like turtles

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[TDjacksonville]

I work 40 hours a week now lol, on a 15M dollar project for a railway company. Travel back and forth from Montreal to North Bay
thats still less then me

[warfelg]

The draft is going to have similar rules to the actual draft when the mock is going on:
[QUOTE]Each GM has 2 hours.

Your time slot is given next to your teams pick. The time is in EST. If the team before you has picked you do not have to wait for your time slot. However, you are allowed until the end of that time slot, even if you log off.

After your time is up your team will be skipped. You can send your pick to me or any other GM to make your pick on time. IF YOU SEND A LIST, SEND AT LEAST THE NUMBER OF PICKS OUT YOU ARE SO AT LEAST 1 TEAM WILL BE AVAILABLE. STILL PM AND VM THE PERSON BEHIND YOU SO IF THEY ARE ON THEY CAN PICK EARLY AND WE CAN MAYBE GET STARTED EARLY!!

The draft over was determined by running a random order generator 10 times, taking the average draft position, and ordering it out from there. Ties were decided by coin flips.



Draft Position
GM
TIME/DATE/TEAM PICKED


1
Weeman
HOUSTON TEXANS


2
I am Bob
MINNESOTA VIKINGS


3
Strive
DETROIT LIONS


4
UTB
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS


5
I Stole Home
LOS ANGELES RAMS


6
Super
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS


7
JetsForever
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS


8
Rap
CLEVELAND BROWNS


9
Quin
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS


10
Homestar
ATLANTA FALCONS


12
Eagles
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES


13
Richie
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS


14
Sadds
LOS ANGELES CHARGERS


15
HnR
OAKLAND RAIDERS


16
Homie
GREEN BAY PACKERS


17
mngoph
CAROLINA PANTHERS


18
Ajayi
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS


19
Andrei
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS


20
Warrior - Ledy
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS


21
Norm
DENVER BRONCOS


22
Thomas
WASHINGTON REDSKINS


23
BDawk
DALLAS COWBOYS


24
TDj
BUFFALO BILLS


26
TO
PITTSBURGH STEELERS


27
KTS
TENNESSEE TITANS


28
Wrench
NEW YORK GIANTS



Cracka
CINCINNATI BENGALS



Jets012
NEW YORK JETS

[warfelg]

Draft order is out.

[TO Rapz]

Looks at draft position and gets pissed.








Sees KTS is still worse off. :laugh:

[Wrench]

Then there is me :(

[HunterNRoss]

Draft order is out.

Weeman gets 1st overall. Well my streak of never getting the Raiders continues although at 15 I likely wasnt getting them anyway.

[Wrench]

Links to players profile.

1 Weeman (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?5760-weeman323) - Houston Texans
2 I am Bob (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?27137-i-am-bob) - Minnesota Vikings
3 Strive (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?79667-StriveGreatness) - Detroit Lions
4 UTB (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?69506-unleashthebeast) - New Orleans Saints
5 I Stole Home (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?44330-I-Stole-Home) - Los Angeles Rams
6 Super (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?28128-Super) - New England Patriots
7 JetsForever (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?45806-jetsforever) - Indianapolis Colts
8 Rap (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?23625-rapjuicer06) - Cleveland Browns
9 Quin (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?221576-Quinnsanity) - Seattle Seahawks
10 Homestar (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?28758-homestarunner93) - Atlanta Falcons
11 Giannis (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?24195-Giannis94)
12 Eagles (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?31747-EAGLES3658) - Philadelphia Eagles
13 Richie (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?31385-richiesaurus310) - San Francisco 49ers
14 Sadds (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?62561-Sadds-The-Gr8) - Los Angeles Chargers
15 HnR (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?201073-HunterNRoss) - Oakland Raiders
16 Homie (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?27135-homie564) - Green Bay Packers
17 mngoph (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?70288-mngopher35) - Carolina Panthers
18 Ajayi (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?441538-AjayiDaGod) - Jacksonville Jaguars
19 Andrei (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?249507-Andrei00) - Kansas City Chiefs
20 Warrior (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?260136-WarriorPride) -Ledy (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?439848-Ledy) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
21 Norm (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?44691-Norm) - Denver Broncos
22 Thomas (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?79387-ThomasTomasz) - Washington Redskins
23 BDawk (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?12097-BDawk4Prez) - Dallas Cowboys
24 TDj (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?222977-TDjacksonville) - Buffalo Bills
25 Finesser (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?436940-Finesser)
26 TO (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?59029-TO-Rapz) - Pittsburgh Steelers
27 KTS (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?91895-killthesux)
28 Wrench (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/member.php?65039-Wrench)

[weeman323]

Houston Texans

[HunterNRoss]

Weeman gets 1st overall. Well my streak of never getting the Raiders continues although at 15 I likely wasnt getting them anyway.

Weeman went Texans. Wasnt expecting that.

[homie564]

I am bob requests the Minnesota Vikings


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[StriveGreatness]

Detroit Lions

[Quinnsanity]

Can tagged players be restructured? Not to go down, but if someone holds out, could you offer them a raise to end it? And would that count as a restructure or would it just be handled in the holdout thread?

[Norm]

Blind bidding is pointless.

Just keep it open.

[warfelg]

Can tagged players be restructured? Not to go down, but if someone holds out, could you offer them a raise to end it? And would that count as a restructure or would it just be handled in the holdout thread?

Straight from the rules:

To deal with a holdout, a GM must respond in the Holdouts thread. A GM can do a few things to rectify a player holding out. They can talk a player out of it. Offer the player a new contract, or trade the player. Offering a holdout a new contract does not count as a restructure offer.

[weeman323]

Weeman went Texans. Wasnt expecting that.

;)

[HunterNRoss]

;)

throwing the curveball already.

[Super.]

However you've always been able to restructure a tag if you so please, but players will never take a pay cut

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[unleashthebeast]

I'll take the New Orleans Saints

[I Stole Home]

Los Angeles Rams

[Super.]

PATRIOTS BABYYY

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[jetsforever]

Indy Colts.

[rapjuicer06]

Browns

[warfelg]

Quinn requests the Seattle Seahawks via his list.

[Super.]

Hardest to get
Brady
Gronk
Edelman
Gilmore
#1
McCourty

If you're asking about one of them, be prepared to give up a lot

(Updated 2/14)

[Quinnsanity]

Ok people here is the deal: my goal this year is to get rid of every single player on my team. Literally EVERY. DAMN. PLAYER. You want your very own Legion of Boom? Great. Come and get it. Former MVP vote receiver Bobby Wagner? He's yours. Greatest left tackle of all time George Fant? HE'S YOURS FOR THE TAKING.

We'll start the bidding with Russell Wilson. I have absolutely no rules or preconceived notions as far as what I want for him, I just know what superstar quarterbacks are worth in this game. I am open to any permutation of this trade. I will trade him without getting a QB back for the right load of talent. I will trade him with other stuff for a better QB (though there aren't many). I will make a lateral "just for the **** of it" move if anyone with a similar QB is down. I'm just trying to **** **** up.

Oh, and come at me with offers for my FAs. I will be tagging and trading either Sheldon Richardson or Jimmy Graham depending on who I get better offers for. So come at me.

[homestarunner93]

Atlanta Falcons

[EAGLES3658]

Eagles

[rapjuicer06]

Joe Thomas is available. Do want a replacement for him, but he is available.

[homestarunner93]

Anyone and everyone can be traded

[richiesaurus310]

Finally I get the 49ers

[EAGLES3658]

Is there a place we can see FAs?

[Sadds The Gr8]

chargers

[HunterNRoss]

Oakland I mean Las Vegas Raiders

[Wrench]

Is there a place we can see FAs?

Best bet here

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

[HunterNRoss]

Is there a place we can see FAs?

https://overthecap.com/free-agency

is a good one. puts highest salaries at the top of each list so have to scroll down for good players on cheap deals that are free agents.

[homie564]

Ill take the Packers


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[HunterNRoss]

Willing to trade anyone. Of course some are going to be more difficult then others.

Check my clubhouse. I keep it pretty up to date.

[mngopher35]

I'll take panthers

[mngopher35]

I am looking for WR/CB to start. Anyone is available I guess but Cam is almost for sure staying put. I like mccaffrey more than others too so he likely stays lol. Other than that though anything is possible.

Kawann Short DT
Luke Kuechly LB
Thomas Davis LB
Greg Olsen TE
Ryan Kalil C
Mario Addison DE
Trai Turner G
Matt Kalil LT
Kurt Coleman S
Jonathan Stewart RB
Captain Munnerlyn CB
Charles Johnson DE

etc. etc. all available and honestly are likely to all move. I want to make big changes to the team outside QB so get in best offers on any guy you want even if just a little. Any offer just as a standing offer is fine with me for a guy if you wanna lowball but let me know you have interest.

[StriveGreatness]

Hit me up on anyone that interests you.

[homie564]

See down below

[rapjuicer06]

Josh Gordon, he's not listed as a member of the Browns but he's also not listed as a FA. He's been reinstated, is he on my team? Technically he isn't a FA and at the very least is a RFA.

[Wrench]

Josh Gordon is a ERFA I do believe.

[Wrench]

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?853047-All-RFA-amp-eRFA

He is already listed there.

[warfelg]

Josh Gordon, he's not listed as a member of the Browns but he's also not listed as a FA. He's been reinstated, is he on my team? Technically he isn't a FA and at the very least is a RFA.

eRFA and in that list.

[homestarunner93]

FWIW, Dontari Poe could be tagged and traded if anyone has any interest. Had a great year in Atlanta and proved he can play 4-3 or 3-4 effectively.

[rapjuicer06]

Thanks guys. I missed that.

[richiesaurus310]

Pierre Garcon, Ruben Foster, and Joe Staley are gone. Clubhouse will be updated this weekend.

I'd still like to upgrade at pass rush, cornerback, and offensive line. I’d also like to move up in the draft from 9. I have no intention of trading down.

Not looking to trade Jimmy Gesus or Mike Evans at this time.

[AjayiDaGod]

Jaguars

[Andrei00]

The Kansas City Chiefs

[Andrei00]

Alex Smith, Hunt, Kelce, Hill and Peters are going to be hard to move. Almost untouchable, especially this early in the game.

Houston and Berry will not go cheap either.

Talent like:

Pat Mahomes II
Dee Ford
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Allen Bailey
Eric Fisher
Ron Parker
Darrelle Revis

and much more can be had, if your heart so desires. I'd appreciate offers. Hint: I like and need cheap talent. Oh, and Draft picks too.

[WarriorPride]

We will take the Tampa Bay Winstoneers, I mean Buccaneers.

[Norm]

Denver

[Norm]

Gimme all ur packerz i haz broncoz

[Norm]

Gimme GODQB

[Norm]

All my bad players are untouchable, only good ones can be traded. I'm looking to downgrade my best positions and get poor value. HMU.

[Norm]

Stephenson isn't actually on my roster, he restructred and they left a 1 mil cap hit ffor this year but it voided. I'll just put him with cuts, even though it's gonna cost me 500k, but whatevs.

But my real ?, do only our top 51 count against cap like IRL or is tha tnot a thing? It's not a big deal, I just wante dto know.

[WarriorPride]

Just like everyone elses team, everyone is available. Including Jameis Winston, Mike Evans, and DeSean Jackson.

Biggest needs/wants in order are:

-Defensive Upgrades

-Offensive Line Upgrades

-Running Back

[ThomasTomasz]

Washington Redskins

[Norm]

We need to revisit voting after the year. Everyone seemed to prefer that after last have then it was never discussed again

[warfelg]

Stephenson isn't actually on my roster, he restructred and they left a 1 mil cap hit ffor this year but it voided. I'll just put him with cuts, even though it's gonna cost me 500k, but whatevs.

But my real ?, do only our top 51 count against cap like IRL or is tha tnot a thing? It's not a big deal, I just wante dto know.

yes its only top 51 accounted for. my bad

[Cracka2HI!]

I'm here, was hoping to have a co...

[EAGLES3658]

Wentz would be hard to get.

Most available guys are:

Jason Peters
Jason Kelce
Mychal Kendricks
Brandon Brooks
Vinny Curry
Rodney McLeod
Nick Foles

[BDawk4Prez]

Pick void - team already taken

[warfelg]

I'm here, was hoping to have a co...

Worse case you'll have a co with someone when they are back. Best case you can find one on your own. You can end up picking at the end of the draft (sorry for that).

[WarriorPride]

We've had a bunch of teams send us offers for Mike Evans. If teams are looking for WR's, DeSean Jackson is very available as well.

[Wrench]

TDJ requests Bills

[TO Rapz]

Please tweet me when Im up in the team draft.

[Wrench]

Please tweet me when Im up in the team draft.

I got you.

[TO Rapz]

I got you.

Thanks man

[weeman323]

All available. Of course, some cost more than others. So get ready to pay for Watson, Hopkins and Watt.

[jetsforever]

Looking for offensive lineman and pass rushers. Willing to listen to offers on anyone. Please send deals that I can counter/research.

[I Stole Home]

On the block:
Alec Ogletree
Mark Barron
Robert Quinn
Tyler Higbee
Michael Brockers
Tavon Austin
Kayvon Webster


Not really looking to move Gurley, Donald or Goff atm

[Quinnsanity]

Dude you're not the Titans anymore.

[I Stole Home]

can someone fix that for me ?

[rapjuicer06]

I was so confused hahahahaha

[BDawk4Prez]

Can't read i guess.

Dallas.

[unleashthebeast]

I’ll trade anyone. Kamara, Lattimore, Thomas would probably be the toughest for me to move because of their salaries.

People looking for OL, I would move Armstead and or Warford

Need an RB? Mark Ingram is your guy

[Super.]

updated

[WarriorPride]

Famous Jameis could be had for the right price for teams who are tight on cap but looking for a QB! Very cheap price tag for a QB.

[Super.]

TO takes the Steelers

[TO Rapz]

Im open to moving the following:

WR: Antonio Brown
WR: Martavis Bryant
WR: Dede Westbrook
WR: Keelan Cole

TE: Mercedes Lewis (hes my only TE so think about this before you offer)

CB: Joe Haden
CB: Dominique Rogers Crom
CB: Artie Burns
CB: William Gay (available pretty cheap)
CB: Kevin King

OLB: Bud Dupree
OLB: Preston Smith (2nd round draft pick price)

FS: Antoine Bethea (2nd round draft pick price)
FS: Adrian Amos (28th overall pick price)
S: Da'Norris Searcy

[killthesux]

Quite obvious, Titans

[Wrench]

I'll take the Gaints then

[TDjacksonville]

All guys available

[Wrench]

Open for anything and everything.

[rapjuicer06]

Does everyone have a team?

[warfelg]

I’ll update the post when I get home:

Trading 1/24 at 9:01 PM EST.

Trades in before that will not be approved.

UNTIL THEN: DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP GET FINESSER AND CRACKA IN HERE TO PICK A TEAM!!!

[TO Rapz]

Stephone Tuitt is on the block for those who need a 3-4 DE.

Mike Mitchell is on the block for those that need a free safety.

[warfelg]

Does everyone have a team?

Finesser and CRAcka don’t. We need to send a bunch of notes to them.

[Cracka2HI!]

I'll take the Bengals.

[warfelg]

Reminder:

Player BS SB RB

Cap before
Cap after

SB stays as dead cap, you save BS and RB

[Super.]

Patriots cut Martellus Bennett BS $3,600,000 RB $2,587,500

Before: $13,484,288
After: $19,671,788

[killthesux]

Everyone is available, No one is Untouchable

[homestarunner93]

Falcons cut:

Matt Schaub $2,750,000.00/$1,250,000.00/$1,500,000.00
Levine Toilolo $3,500,000.00/$1,000,000.00/$0.00
Matt Bosher $2,200,000.00/$500,000.00/$0.00
Jack Crawford $2,250,000.00/$833,333.00/$68,748.00
Josh Harris $805,000.00/$100,000.00/$0.00
Sean Harlow $555,000.00/$138,576.00/$0.00
Devin Fuller/$630,000.00/$18,446.00/$0.00
Damontae Kazee $555,000.00/$72,230.00/$0.00
Eric Saubert $555,000.00/$56,847.00/$0.00
Marvin Hall $555,000.00/$0.00/$0.00
Martin Ifedi $555,000.00/$0.00/$0.00
Quincy Mauger $480,000.00/$0.00/$0.00

Before: $15,224,366
After: $32,183,114

[mngopher35]

Actively looking/open to trade to start:
Thomas Davis $5,750,000.00 $2,250,000.00 $1,953,125.00 $9,953,125.00
Ryan Kalil $4,500,000.00 $1,000,000.00 $4,154,000.00 $9,654,000.00
Trai Turner $4,703,000.00 $3,000,000.00 $0.00 $7,703,000.00
Matt Kalil $1,000,000.00 $2,400,000.00 $3,500,000.00 $6,900,000.00
Kurt Coleman $3,500,000.00 $1,250,000.00 $500,000.00 $5,250,000.00
Jonathan Stewart $1,900,000.00 $0.00 $3,312,500.00 $5,212,500.00
Charles Johnson $2,250,000.00 $0.00 $937,500.00 $3,187,500.00


I will package up, trade for picks, or whatever people want. I am looking for WR/CB for sure and if I can package into a top player I will but open to anything. Picks are always nice (first round or two). Let me know who interests you and how much you would give etc. If I get enough good offers etc. they all could be moved for sure once trading starts.

P.S. Kueckly will take alot but is moveable, he is obviously my most asked about and getting solid offers. Short is next in line. Not sure I have a deadline on them as I am kinda waiting for the perfect deal here. The players above are more likely to be moveable asap of my better guys.

[WarriorPride]

Bucs have a ton of interest in your defensive players....