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kdspurman
11-16-2016, 03:44 PM
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Chronz
11-16-2016, 07:34 PM
Going to the Grizz game tonight, they almost never lose to the Grizz when Im in attendance.

Bron aint playing tonight, really interested in seeing them without the anchor. They face a weak team but its still a big test.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 08:14 PM
here is praying we beat WSH so they end up trading wall to us :nod:

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 08:29 PM
Embiid has gotten all the love and hype but MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN Saric is looking like a ****ing corner stone stud as well... Dude is a monstar... If the sixers do it right and they do trade oka and noel and we get some good **** back a team going forward of Simmons/Saric/Embiid and the god that is illyasolva or however ya spell it because he is my new favorite player could be ****ing godly

Super ****ing Dario going HAM

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 08:31 PM
Kyrie and love look lost and worthless without Bron bron... SHOCKING.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 08:32 PM
Sixers sat embiid at home tonight so he can go against Towns on national TV tomorrow... LEAGUE DECISION lol

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 08:34 PM
alright Wizards you need to trade wall.. We will give you OKA and a first no questions asked.

Simmons/Wall/Embiid/Saric/Noel/Illya=Playoffs.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 08:45 PM
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN we making the wiz our ***** without Embiid... THEY GOT SOME ISSUES YO

mightybosstone
11-16-2016, 08:56 PM
The Mavericks are already losing by double digits to the Celtics, and there's five minutes left in the first. I need to go find the post where half of PSD predicted the Mavs would finish ahead of the Rockets and bookmark it. I will thoroughly enjoy bringing that up at the end of the season.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 08:59 PM
One of the biggest games before 2017: Dubs @ Raptors. Been waiting over a week for this...

sent from my Note 5 on Tapatalk

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 09:00 PM
One of the biggest games before 2017: Dubs @ Raptors. Been waiting over a week for this...

sent from my Note 5 on Tapatalk

I am fairly certain me and you are the only 2 that believed in the raps last and this season.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:08 PM
Got Sixers ML +115 up 12 in the 1st Q. Here's hoping they don't pull a Sixers...

What's up with T Lue benching Kyrie to close the 1st half when he was hot and not in foul trouble btw? Cost them a 1st half lead when they had momentum in their favor. Injured?

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 09:09 PM
Kyrie and love look lost and worthless without Bron bron... SHOCKING.

Lol are you actually watching the game?

Kyrie and Love are doing great - the rest of the team that was built around LeBron are lost. SHOCKING.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:09 PM
One of the biggest games before 2017: Dubs @ Raptors. Been waiting over a week for this...

sent from my Note 5 on Tapatalk

Good luck man, heck of a back 2 back for us. Should be a fun game to watch. I think if our bigs come out running we might have a chance

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:10 PM
Kyrie and love look lost and worthless without Bron bron... SHOCKING.
Kyrie and Love look solid on the b2b, Lue is the only one who looks shook.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:11 PM
Got Dubs 1st H

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:15 PM
Wow Draymond embarrassed Lowry in his ISO attempt. That's as owned as you can get.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:17 PM
Derozan starting to show his 3 point range the last couple games

mightybosstone
11-16-2016, 09:17 PM
Atrocious start for the Rockets. No defense. Sloppy offensively. If they don't play better than this, they're going to get blown out.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 09:24 PM
I hate Hubie.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:25 PM
Crazy that Currys gravity is so large that a player is wide open from three with the ball and the defender runs sideways towards Curry (cue made 3pt shot by Iggy). That's wild.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:29 PM
Javale lmao smh.

Don't the Raps suck from 3? I don't think they have missed. Seems like a good game plan.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:29 PM
Raps shooting like GS so far

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 09:29 PM
Mcgee is a clown. Great hustle but clumsy fall. Raps will eat up free throws.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:29 PM
I don't like that foul. Curry leaned in but he's going to get that call.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 09:32 PM
Funny seeing how Steph's BAD 3 point shooting was at 35%. :laugh2:

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:32 PM
Javale lmao smh.

Don't the Raps suck from 3? I don't think they have missed. Seems like a good game plan.

They have been off to a slow start shooting the three this season but they can knock them down. Definitely not an area of weakness if you look at last season.

nycericanguy
11-16-2016, 09:34 PM
GODZINGIS with 25 at half time!

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:35 PM
They have been off to a slow start shooting the three this season but they can knock them down. Definitely not an area of weakness if you look at last season.

yeah, Patterson has been awful this year and he takes the most, I really hope Sully hurries his way back, I'm sick of 2Pat

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:35 PM
GODZINGIS with 25 at half time!

Sick... Moments card incoming in NBA 2k!!!

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:35 PM
Ahh come on refs Durant doesn't need that call.

Can't complain tho. Our guys get that call too lol

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 09:38 PM
Kyrie is creating all sorts of open shots for the Cavs.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:38 PM
38-34 after one... Holy moly I expected a high scoring game this one could get to 140!

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:38 PM
Durant is like that's all day haha.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:39 PM
yeah, Patterson has been awful this year and he takes the most, I really hope Sully hurries his way back, I'm sick of 2Pat

Sully can't shoot threes tho.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:39 PM
Pretty pretty damn sure the Raps can't sustain that offense. Warriors should be happy to only be down 4 at the Q.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:39 PM
Nice to see a clean game after last nights wrestling match

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:39 PM
Sully can't shoot threes tho.

Neither can Patterson haha

lol, please
11-16-2016, 09:40 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUARRRRRKKKKKK I hate missing the beginning of a game I REALLY look forward to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just got home. How was the 1st?

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:44 PM
Woah Ross just got Iggy there.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 09:45 PM
Big 3 from Durantula!!

ClutchTime
11-16-2016, 09:45 PM
Durant off to great start in the first half

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:46 PM
Neither can Patterson haha

Lol he's off to a terrible start. He can't hit a shot.

ClutchTime
11-16-2016, 09:46 PM
How is nobody in double digits yet for the Rockets?

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:47 PM
The Warriors are so tough. Even when the offense isn't flowing and they can't get into their sets, they have three of the best shooters in the game to bail them out. Incredible team.

ClutchTime
11-16-2016, 09:49 PM
maybe I'm missing something but why 10 games in does both LeBron and JR need a day off?

lol, please
11-16-2016, 09:49 PM
DD having himself a heck of a season.


I know the conventional wisdom is that he regresses to the mean, but I hope that never happens and this becomes his new mean.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:50 PM
The Warriors are so tough. Even when the offense isn't flowing and they can't get into their sets, they have three of the best shooters in the game to bail them out. Incredible team.

Imagine if they actually had a legitimate post threat/rim protector

lol, please
11-16-2016, 09:50 PM
Got Dubs 1st H
;)

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:52 PM
Imagine if they actually had a legitimate post threat/rim protector

I think Treds was saying they have a player that is out right now who can fill that role.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:53 PM
maybe I'm missing something but why 10 games in does both LeBron and JR need a day off?
Just Bron getting his beauty rest. JR missed yesterday too with something.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:54 PM
I think Treds was saying they have a player that is out right now who can fill that role.

Potential but certainly no guarantee. He's basically another Udoh.

It's their #1 weakness fsure.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:55 PM
haha even Drake is trashing the refs from last night!

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 09:56 PM
Lol are you actually watching the game?

Kyrie and Love are doing great - the rest of the team that was built around LeBron are lost. SHOCKING.

look when I posted... They were **** in the first Quarter... They have been balling since... Not my fault you people show up late :shrug:

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 09:57 PM
Kyrie and Love look solid on the b2b, Lue is the only one who looks shook.

didnt know it was B2B... If that is the case I would have had no gripes

tredigs
11-16-2016, 09:58 PM
Val is owning GS on the glass.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 09:58 PM
Raptors are killing them on the boards

lol, please
11-16-2016, 09:58 PM
quick 5 points and we have the lead back.

Need to find out a way to slow down Valanciunas on the glass.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 09:59 PM
They just missed a huge moving screen on Pach Lmao. Trust me, the game plan isn't to leave Curry open.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 09:59 PM
Raptors are killing them on the boards

klay for Noel and a first fixes that problem.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 10:00 PM
Potential but certainly no guarantee. He's basically another Udoh.

It's their #1 weakness fsure.

Well if not, I'm sure they will address it some how.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:00 PM
Yo digs... Take the sixers over the wolves tomorrow... Embiid gonna go to town on towns : )

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:03 PM
People doubted this raptors team last year saying **** was a cakewalk for Lebron trying to use it as an excuse to hurt him... This raptors team was really really underrated and are opening eyes.

ClutchTime
11-16-2016, 10:04 PM
Curry going off

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:05 PM
klay for Noel and a first fixes that problem.

that would be a terrible trade for the W's in my opinion. I'm sure someone will come available at some point and their first choice will be to go to the Warriors. Trading Klay for Noel would be pretty boneheaded

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:05 PM
Curry going off

man he is so good, and he loves Toronto, he was playing on this court when he was like 5

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:05 PM
Durant!!!

And a monster block on Lowry earlier my goodness.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:07 PM
that would be a terrible trade for the W's in my opinion. I'm sure someone will come available at some point and their first choice will be to go to the Warriors. Trading Klay for Noel would be pretty boneheaded

He wants Klay on the Sixers lol.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:07 PM
GS starting to run away with it... They are so much better than Cleveland

ClutchTime
11-16-2016, 10:07 PM
Warriors are just out-hustling the Raptors now.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 10:07 PM
That ****ing Finals Trophy gif just rolled through my head way too much after Currys last ill advised pass there...

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:08 PM
that would be a terrible trade for the W's in my opinion. I'm sure someone will come available at some point and their first choice will be to go to the Warriors. Trading Klay for Noel would be pretty boneheaded

Noel and likely a top 3 pick plus a guy like Roco is more than fair... Its not just Noel for Klay... You are getting one of the best defending bigs in basketball who is 22 and can run with the best of them on top of a top 3 pick and a 3 point shooting threat who also defends in Roco.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:09 PM
haha T'ing up both our stars at once... cmon now!

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:10 PM
Noel and likely a top 3 pick plus a guy like Roco is more than fair... Its not just Noel for Klay... You are getting one of the best defending bigs in basketball who is 22 and can run with the best of them on top of a top 3 pick and a 3 point shooting threat who also defends in Roco.

I'm a neutral party not a GS fan... Championship teams don't trade for draft picks!

aman_13
11-16-2016, 10:10 PM
And just like that lol

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:10 PM
I want wall or Klay... All I ****ing ask. Simmons/Saric/Embiid/oka or Noel with a Klay or Wall is god mode.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:12 PM
I'm a neutral party not a GS fan... Championship teams don't trade for draft picks!

They certainly should when you factor in they are filling a need with a defensive center and or could flip that top 3 pick for even more depth considering they need to pay curry after just paying Durant and will be in a cavs like situation rather soon where they will be stuck with the team they have with limited routes to add.

tp13baby
11-16-2016, 10:12 PM
Mike Malone called out Mudiay in a press conference. So lets see.

Also Murray is starting to look really good and with Barton and Harris out for an extended amount of time, I expect 15 and 5 off the bench.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:12 PM
This is my Finals prediction preview btw guys. Putting it out there now so it's on record well in advance.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:13 PM
This is my Finals prediction preview btw guys. Putting it out their now so it's on record well in advance.

same.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:14 PM
This is my Finals prediction preview btw guys. Putting it out their now so it's on record well in advance.

You know I'm in agreeance!

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:15 PM
Horseshit ****ing call on OKA. I hate NBA refs

R!kSm!tz
11-16-2016, 10:16 PM
Raptors aren't making the finals lol.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 10:16 PM
haha T'ing up both our stars at once... cmon now!
What was that about? Must have thought Dray was out of bounds or that he threw it off them too hard? Can't give GS points though. I can't remember Curry ever missing a tech shot. Raps are legit but their legs in the b2b are showing.

R!kSm!tz
11-16-2016, 10:16 PM
King Klay!!!

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:17 PM
look when I posted... They were **** in the first Quarter... They have been balling since... Not my fault you people show up late :shrug:

They were not looking 'worthless' or 'lost' in the 1st. I know you have an agenda to glorify Bron but try again. You're just straight up lying at this point.

ClutchTime
11-16-2016, 10:17 PM
Horseshit ****ing call on OKA. I hate NBA refs

HAHAHA sorry but that was good

aman_13
11-16-2016, 10:18 PM
This is my Finals prediction preview btw guys. Putting it out there now so it's on record well in advance.

Lol I can't tell if you really like the Raps or are just trolling us. Raps aren't ready but I do believe at some point Masai will make a move that will really give this team a chance. Until then, they will just fall short to Cleveland.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:18 PM
They certainly should when you factor in they are filling a need with a defensive center and or could flip that top 3 pick for even more depth considering they need to pay curry after just paying Durant and will be in a cavs like situation rather soon where they will be stuck with the team they have with limited routes to add.

Noel hasn't even established himself as a starter in this league, Klay is a 2 time 3rd team all-NBAer. GS wants to win NOW. Again the trade makes zero sense for Golden State, Noel isn't even a post threat

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:18 PM
They were not looking 'worthless' or 'lost' in the 1st. I know you have an agenda to glorify Bron but try again. You're just straight up lying at this point.

I dont need an agenda to glorify lebron...We can just look at the final score of any cavs game he misses :shrug:

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:19 PM
Lol I can't tell if you really like the Raps or are just trolling us. Raps aren't ready but I do believe at some point Masai will make a move that will really give this team a chance. Until then, they will just fall short to Cleveland.

I'm a believer for real. Have been for a few seasons now but they really won me over during last years playoffs.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:19 PM
Noel hasn't even established himself as a starter in this league, Klay is a 2 time 3rd team all-NBAer. GS wants to win NOW. Again the trade makes zero sense for Golden State, Noel isn't even a post threat

What... He was forced into playing with OKA last year... The year before he was one of the best defensive players in basketball... IN BASKETBALL... people seem to forget that. He is easily a starter and a damn good one at that.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 10:20 PM
Cavs take the L minus Lebron. I'd like to hear lue's reasoning behind benching Kyrie the last 3 mins of the 1st half when they were threatening to take the lead (and no recent foul or minutes issue) when he/they were hot. Took the wind out of their sails. Didn't watch the 2nd half at all because the writing was on the wall, so no comment there.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:21 PM
Two things: We need to be able to control Val down low, and Derozan is going to go off at some point and we need to absorb that and survive a shootout.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:22 PM
We play amazing until 3 minutes left in the game lol. Gonna be game number like 7 where we have a lead with 3 minutes left and lose.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 10:23 PM
I'm a believer for real. Have been for a few seasons now but they really won me over during last years playoffs.

Ahh okay. They are a fun team to root for. Very resilient basketball team that will play hard every single night.

Hopefully they can make a game out of this.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:24 PM
What... He was forced into playing with OKA last year... The year before he was one of the best defensive players in basketball... IN BASKETBALL... people seem to forget that. He is easily a starter and a damn good one at that.

You're dreaming if you think he's gonna land you a guy like Klay

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:24 PM
I dont need an agenda to glorify lebron...We can just look at the final score of any cavs game he misses :shrug:

Why the blatant lie then? :laugh2: Sad.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:25 PM
We play amazing until 3 minutes left in the game lol. Gonna be game number like 7 where we have a lead with 3 minutes left and lose.

Imagine if you had a Klay Thompson type player to drop those daggers.

:nod:

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:26 PM
You're dreaming if you think he's gonna land you a guy like Klay

um he isnt... a top 3 pick in the draft plus another pick and a guy like Roco very well might. You are just focusing in on Noel for some reason because you have some weird notion that championship teams dont need draft picks.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:27 PM
Ahh okay. They are a fun team to root for. Very resilient basketball team that will play hard every single night.

Hopefully they can make a game out of this.

It was the Hawks/Bulls 2 years ago. He cheers against LeBron and picks whatever east team that can challenge him.

Gotta play near errorless basketball to beat GS or hope they're missing a lot. They truly are the scariest team with only 10 games in IMO.

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:29 PM
http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/150326-noel-roy/

Noels defense in his rookie year was insane... Saying he isnt a starter is laughable... I am not nor have I been a fan of Noel because I figure he will get a max and have had a hard on for Embiid forever.... But he is quite literally an insane defender and that is huge when it comes to a center who can guard the paint and come out and guard the perimeter WHICH HE CAN.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:29 PM
um he isnt... a top 3 pick in the draft plus another pick and a guy like Roco very well might. You are just focusing in on Noel for some reason because you have some weird notion that championship teams dont need draft picks.

They're not trading Klay for Noel and a draft pick.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:31 PM
Hubie is so blatantly obvious with who he's rooting for, man. It's so filthy. "KD is unfortunately on a roll!"

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:32 PM
They're not trading Klay for Noel and a draft pick.

Of course they arent... Noels value isnt high right now... But it would be a great trade for the Warriors and makes them better... Noels defense on that team and his ability to run equals championship.. The problem is his value is shot because of OKA.,

More-Than-Most
11-16-2016, 10:32 PM
sixers win baby :nod:

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:33 PM
King Klay!!!! Back to back 3's!

tp13baby
11-16-2016, 10:33 PM
We play amazing until 3 minutes left in the game lol. Gonna be game number like 7 where we have a lead with 3 minutes left and lose.

Thats the story of Denvers season.

Also I love Pj Tucker and i don't know why.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 10:34 PM
It was the Hawks/Bulls 2 years ago. He cheers against LeBron and picks whatever east team that can challenge him.

Gotta play near errorless basketball to beat GS or hope they're missing a lot. They truly are the scariest team with only 10 games in IMO.

Yeah you can't go on lulls or it's done. The Raps have no energy right now. Very lackadaisical.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:37 PM
Of course they arent... Noels value isnt high right now... But it would be a great trade for the Warriors and makes them better... Noels defense on that team and his ability to run equals championship.. The problem is his value is shot because of OKA.,

It would actually be a terrible trade that makes them worse, Klay is playing poorly now but he'll pick it up. They need someone that can draw a double team in the post to open up 3's... no one is gonna double Nerlens

tredigs
11-16-2016, 10:38 PM
Took the Raps +17.5 in play. They should forge a comeback.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:38 PM
Of course they arent... Noels value isnt high right now... But it would be a great trade for the Warriors and makes them better... Noels defense on that team and his ability to run equals championship.. The problem is his value is shot because of OKA.,

Nope. Wouldn't be a great trade for them at all. They may finish with 65+ wins and favorites to win and you think they should trade a top 15 player for Noel and a pick? :laugh:

Clint Olbrock
11-16-2016, 10:38 PM
GS starting to run away with it... They are so much better than Cleveland

2016 NBA champs say otherwise LOL

tredigs
11-16-2016, 10:39 PM
sixers win baby :nod:

Those silly *****es just bought me a PS4

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:39 PM
2016 NBA champs say otherwise LOL

Cheat to win then brag about it - Cleveland Logic

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:40 PM
Klay dropped back to back 3's but then missed the next 3 looks.

DD and Lowry are heating up. Still a 13 point lead but sooo much time left.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:41 PM
Took the Raps +17.5 in play. They should forge a comeback.

They fight hard. Very tenacious squad.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:43 PM
Took the Raps +17.5 in play. They should forge a comeback.

I'd take that bet everytime, always more of a chance for a comeback then a blow out IMO no matter the game

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:44 PM
6/17 from 3, pretty sure they were 5/6 to start the game lol

Clint Olbrock
11-16-2016, 10:45 PM
Cheat to win then brag about it - Cleveland Logic

Team loses a series and you cry about refs for 6 months.. Miltstar logic.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:46 PM
Siakam has gotta learn not to foul so much. Otherwise he looks promising.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:48 PM
Lol Mcgee. 2nd chance was needed!

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:48 PM
Team loses a series and you cry about refs for 6 months.. Miltstar logic.

why you trollin me? I get real upset with the refs when we play Cleveland for good reason, if you don't like it don't talk to me

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:49 PM
Derozan literally carrying the Raptors right now and keeping it close.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 10:55 PM
My goodness that drive from Derozan

:faint:

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:55 PM
derozan literally carrying the raptors right now and keeping it close.

mvp!!! Mvp!!

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 10:55 PM
why you trollin me? I get real upset with the refs when we play Cleveland for good reason, if you don't like it don't talk to me

Ref tears in the game thread are annoying. I suggest team forums for that.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:56 PM
Raps making it a game!

tp13baby
11-16-2016, 10:57 PM
Derozan literally carrying the Raptors right now and keeping it close.

The amount of hate he gets on here is unwarranted this year. He is efficient and consistent.

Booker ranks 6th all time for most points in their teen years. Never would of thought.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:57 PM
Ref tears in the game thread are annoying. I suggest team forums for that.

It's not like it was uncalled for. It was legitimately questionable, Jack was talking about it, Drake was talking about it, it wasn't a normal situation

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 10:58 PM
Siakam wow love this kid!

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:00 PM
mvp!!! Mvp!!

Tredigs disagree's with me having Derozan as an early MVP favorite along with Harden but maybe after tonight he will come around on it.

Clint Olbrock
11-16-2016, 11:00 PM
why you trollin me? I get real upset with the refs when we play Cleveland for good reason, if you don't like it don't talk to me

Why do you troll the entire forum by saying Raptors are more talented than the Cavs? Why do you troll the entire forum by saying the Raptors are the team to beat in the East?

Don't say things to get a reaction, then cry when you get a reaction.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 11:00 PM
I'm about to turn the sound off because of Hubie.

Siakam is nice. DeRozan playing with some ferocity.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:01 PM
Tredigs disagree's with me having Derozan as an early MVP favorite along with Harden but maybe after tonight he will come around on it.

Curry looks like the MVP he is tonight lol

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:01 PM
Why do you troll the entire forum by saying Raptors are more talented than the Cavs? Why do you troll the entire forum by saying the Raptors are the team to beat in the East?

Don't say things to get a reaction, then cry when you get a reaction.

leave me alone please I truly believe those things

Vampirate
11-16-2016, 11:02 PM
Ref tears in the game thread are annoying. I suggest team forums for that.

You're easily one of the most unbiased fan on this board.

Once Boston is healthy do you think they are getting the 2nd seed in the East, where do you see them ending up. (they kinda remind me of the Raptors like 2 seasons ago tbh)

aman_13
11-16-2016, 11:03 PM
I'm about to turn the sound off because of Hubie.

Siakam is nice. DeRozan playing with some ferocity.

I'm very encouraged by his play. He just can't stay on the court.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:07 PM
Finally 2Pat!

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:09 PM
What a game by Iggy thus far.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 11:10 PM
You're easily one of the most unbiased fan on this board.

Once Boston is healthy do you think they are getting the 2nd seed in the East, where do you see them ending up. (they kinda remind me of the Raptors like 2 seasons ago tbh)

Heh, I'm too biased for my liking.

I think Boston is a tough team that is essentially punching above their weight. Once healthy they're formidable and can beat any team, but the lack of offensive star power (IT is awesome but they need more) makes it tough for them in a 7 game series IMO.

I believe they're third or fourth seed. Raps 2nd and Hawks 3rd since they look good with Howard.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 11:12 PM
What a game by Iggy thus far.

Iggy hitting threes is unfair lol. The Warriors don't miss.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:12 PM
Ariza is an idiot. Down 3 with 12 seconds to go wide open in the corner (after a Harden steal), and randomly leaves his spot as the pass comes to make a cut to the hoop. Goes down as a Harden turnover which is hilarious. As dumb a basketball play as you will ever see at this level.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:14 PM
Raps trying their best to get back in it but the Warriors are too good, I wouldn't be surprised to see them win 40 or 50 in a row if they really start to gel and find someone to man the 5

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:16 PM
Curry hurt his ankle again. :( unsure how.

tp13baby
11-16-2016, 11:16 PM
Booker has an ego, 20 year old that has been chirping his own team, Mudiay and the ref almost every possession.

R!kSm!tz
11-16-2016, 11:17 PM
Raps fans just need to be thankful Bosh and Whiteside were injured, if not the Heat probably win that series in 6 at the most. Every year Lowry and Derozan ball out in the regular season then disappear on the biggest stage when they get into the playoffs. We'll see if that habit continues this season.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:17 PM
Ariza is an idiot. Down 3 with 12 seconds to go wide open in the corner (after a Harden steal), and randomly leaves his spot as the pass comes to make a cut to the hoop. Goes down as a Harden turnover which is hilarious. As dumb a basketball play as you will ever see at this level.

:laugh:

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:17 PM
Why has Val played so few minutes? He was their best weapon.

Clint Olbrock
11-16-2016, 11:19 PM
Raptors have A LOT of work to do, they are firmly behind at least 5 teams in the East.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 11:19 PM
Iggy hitting threes is unfair lol. The Warriors don't miss.

Yep. It really isn't. Livingston can also harness the power of DeRozan for a brief time and kill mid range jumpers.

They always come through exactly when needed. It's uncanny and definitely demoralizing after putting so much effort into slowing down their big guns.

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 11:22 PM
Why has Val played so few minutes? He was their best weapon.

He's always low on minutes. Raps fans have told me he gets gassed easily.

He also struggles to defend on the perimeter.

tp13baby
11-16-2016, 11:24 PM
I think Toronto should be calling Denver about Faried, even maybe Chandler off the bench too. Both with extremely feasible contracts too.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:25 PM
Raps lose back to back to the Cavs/Warriors, they must be trash!

Even though they beat the Cavs by normal rules

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:27 PM
Raptors have A LOT of work to do, they are firmly behind at least 5 teams in the East.

Raptors are second best team out there at worst. Derozan is doing things we haven't seen since Jordan.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:28 PM
I think Toronto should be calling Denver about Faried, even maybe Chandler off the bench too. Both with extremely feasible contracts too.

They're definitely in a good position to trade, I respect what 2Pat has done for this team, but it really looks like he needs to be upgraded

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:28 PM
Raptors are second best team out there at worst. Derozan is doing things we haven't seen since Jordan.

He's still tryin to troll me with that nonsense

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:29 PM
Damn DDR went 4-8 against the Cavs from the stripe last night and so far has laced us for 15- 15.

Edit make it 17-17.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 11:29 PM
He's always low on minutes. Raps fans have told me he gets gassed easily.

He also struggles to defend on the perimeter.

I don't think it was a fatigue issue. Casey didn't like how easy Warriors were getting to the rim so he went with a smaller lineup.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:31 PM
he's usually money from the line, he should have had a lot more attempts last night

tp13baby
11-16-2016, 11:32 PM
They're definitely in a good position to trade, I respect what 2Pat has done for this team, but it really looks like he needs to be upgraded

He just isn't a consistent threat. Chandler, with his low usage is putting up 6th man of the year finalist numbers.

Faried improves rebounding in a heart beat but doesn't need touches. Its more feasible than acquiring AD.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:32 PM
I don't think it was a fatigue issue. Casey didn't like how easy Warriors were getting to the rim so he went with a smaller lineup.
He owned the glass and had not missed a shot yet though. I'd have stuck with that.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:34 PM
He just isn't a consistent threat. Chandler, with his low usage is putting up 6th man of the year finalist numbers.

Faried improves rebounding in a heart beat but doesn't need touches. Its more feasible than acquiring AD.

I think we're in a legit position to go after Cousins with Valanciunas as the center piece, not a lot of teams can offer what we can

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:35 PM
Ross looks so much better this year

aman_13
11-16-2016, 11:35 PM
He owned the glass and had not missed a shot yet though. I'd have stuck with that.

Yeah I was saying in the Raps forum that they should of left him on.

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:35 PM
wow. All of the sudden Toronto could steal this.

That was sloppy ball movement....comon guys.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:36 PM
wow. All of the sudden Toronto could steal this.

That was sloppy ball movement....comon guys.

Still gonna be pretty tough, not sure how that wasn't over and back he grabbed the ball before the line... Oh man, looked like Ross was fouled there!

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:38 PM
he's usually money from the line, he should have had a lot more attempts last night
I know, granted. But 17-17 borders on all time best territory.


Anyway, I covered Dubs first half, then covered Raps 2nd half (2x. Hit them +13.5 after). Works for me. Also Sixers MoneyLine.

One non-mentioned bet though and i lost it. Cavs 1st Half. Still would love Lue's reasoning for benching Kyrie there. So odd.

aman_13
11-16-2016, 11:39 PM
Well at least they covered the spread lol.

Clint Olbrock
11-16-2016, 11:39 PM
He's still tryin to troll me with that nonsense

No I'm not, I really believe that.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:40 PM
Great game to watch tonight, very entertaining and refreshing after last night. Raps not on Golden State's level although I don't think anyone is. They trade 2's for 3's

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:40 PM
No I'm not, I really believe that.

Then you are objectively dumb as it pertains to the NBA (barring an epic retort to the contrary?)

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:42 PM
No I'm not, I really believe that.

That doesn't surprise me lol

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:42 PM
Kerr is so furious at the home cooking tonight. Myself? Seemed about right.

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:43 PM
Great game tonight, was refreshing after that trash last night! Raps aren't on the W's level yet

Vee-Rex
11-16-2016, 11:46 PM
No I'm not, I really believe that.

:laugh2:

Vampirate
11-16-2016, 11:46 PM
One thing about the Raps is there's rarely a blowout, the score always seems to stay close no matter who they are playing.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:46 PM
.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:47 PM
No offense at Raps fans, but man that was ugly wtf. Way to take the wind out of your fans at the game when there was no chance to win.

Clint Olbrock
11-16-2016, 11:49 PM
Then you are objectively dumb as it pertains to the NBA (barring an epic retort to the contrary?)

It's equally as dumb as thinking the Raptors are the most talented team in the East and the team to beat in the East, lol

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:50 PM
No offense at Raps fans, but man that was ugly wtf. Way to take the wind out of your fans at the game when there was no chance to win.

What was? Casey pushing the ref? Looks like he apologized and everything was cool

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:51 PM
It's equally as dumb as thinking the Raptors are the most talented team in the East and the team to beat in the East, lol

You make a terrible troll 0/10

aman_13
11-16-2016, 11:52 PM
Only 16 assists by the Raps. They played a lot better last night. Tonight it became too much one on one. Despite the final score, they were thoroughly out played after the first.

tredigs
11-16-2016, 11:53 PM
What was? Casey pushing the ref? Looks like he apologized and everything was cool
I missed the apology. It was that and the late fouls but honestly I like the Raps and that was a fun match for those squads. GG

lol, please
11-16-2016, 11:56 PM
No I'm not, I really believe that.

Name 5 teams better than the Raptors.

likemystylez
11-16-2016, 11:58 PM
One thing about the Raps is there's rarely a blowout, the score always seems to stay close no matter who they are playing.

the refs do a good job keeping them in games......if derozen wasnt being babied by the refs- he wouldnt be in the top 15 in scoring

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:59 PM
I missed the apology. It was that and the late fouls but honestly I like the Raps and that was a fun match for those squads. GG

They did have a chance, it wasn't a very good one at all but it was a 2 possession game

likemystylez
11-16-2016, 11:59 PM
Name 5 teams better than the Raptors.

cavs, warriors, clippers, spurs, blazers

Miltstar
11-16-2016, 11:59 PM
the refs do a good job keeping them in games......if derozen wasnt being babied by the refs- he wouldnt be in the top 15 in scoring

LMAO watch the Cleveland game last night and tell me he's getting babied

lol, please
11-17-2016, 12:00 AM
cavs, warriors, clippers, spurs, blazers

Dude in the east, at least go through the whole conversation before jumping in.

:laugh2:

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:01 AM
cavs, warriors, clippers, spurs, blazers

How many of those teams are in the East? I agree with the Warriors/Spurs, Clippers/Blazers are around equal, Raps definitely better than the Cavs

likemystylez
11-17-2016, 12:05 AM
im kind of excited to see a warriors game where they dont phone it in for the first quarter and a half. if they just play reasonable in a first quarter- I think they are sitting starters even against elite teams for the 4th quarter.

they repeatedly allow teams to score above their averages in 1st quarters- average defense should result in average scoring for the most part

Vee-Rex
11-17-2016, 12:10 AM
How many of those teams are in the East? I agree with the Warriors/Spurs, Clippers/Blazers are around equal, Raps definitely better than the Cavs

Not sure how 4 blowout wins in the playoffs mean the Raps are definitely better. Eh, I'm inclined to believe your thoughts are just fueled by your admitted hatred for the Cavs than any sort of logic.

Raps will get another crack at the Cavs in early December. We'll see how that game goes.

likemystylez
11-17-2016, 12:15 AM
Not sure how 4 blowout wins in the playoffs mean the Raps are definitely better. Eh, I'm inclined to believe your thoughts are just fueled by your admitted hatred for the Cavs than any sort of logic.

Raps will get another crack at the Cavs in early December. We'll see how that game goes.

doesnt really matter- winning a game against the cavs in early december doesnt really prove too much IMO.

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:21 AM
Cavs, Bulls, Raptors, Hawks, Hornets are the best 5 teams in the East. Celtics right there but idk what the deal is with them so far and the Horford situation doesn't sound good from what I've read, regarding his health. I think they'll get there and move the Hornets out eventually. The Bulls have had the Raptors number, hopefully that continues this season.

Vampirate
11-17-2016, 12:21 AM
the refs do a good job keeping them in games......if derozen wasnt being babied by the refs- he wouldnt be in the top 15 in scoring

Well he's always been a great free throw drawer, it's just this year he's hitting those mid range shots much more often.

likemystylez
11-17-2016, 12:23 AM
Well he's always been a great free throw drawer, it's just this year he's hitting those mid range shots much more often.

lmao- refs were handing him free throws today- nothing to do with his skill set. durant was getting called for going straight up atleast 4 or 5 times in the second half..... derozen is not on durants level and even durant doesnt get that kinda star treatment

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:25 AM
Not sure how 4 blowout wins in the playoffs mean the Raps are definitely better. Eh, I'm inclined to believe your thoughts are just fueled by your admitted hatred for the Cavs than any sort of logic.

Raps will get another crack at the Cavs in early December. We'll see how that game goes.

I don't know what to say about the Cavs, I never see a fair game against them to judge. I do believe the Raptors are the more talented team, but I also believe the league wants and needs the Cavs to win which seems to be the x factor. If the Cavs played by the same rules everyone else did I could form a better opinion on them.

LanceUpperCut
11-17-2016, 12:26 AM
Well he's always been a great free throw drawer, it's just this year he's hitting those mid range shots much more often.

lmao- refs were handing him free throws today- nothing to do with his skill set. durant was getting called for going straight up atleast 4 or 5 times in the second half..... derozen is not on durants level and even durant doesnt get that kinda star treatment

Yeah if only the LBJ's Durant's and Curry's were lucky enough to get the DeMar super star calls.

Vampirate
11-17-2016, 12:28 AM
cavs, warriors, clippers, spurs, blazers

The Blazers are overachieving plain and simple, they have a negative run differential of -4.2, The other 3 I agree are better than the Raptors.

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:28 AM
Cavs, Bulls, Raptors, Hawks, Hornets are the best 5 teams in the East. Celtics right there but idk what the deal is with them so far and the Horford situation doesn't sound good from what I've read, regarding his health. I think they'll get there and move the Hornets out eventually. The Bulls have had the Raptors number, hopefully that continues this season.

I love me some Jimmy Butler, he definately defends Demar better than anyone I've seen. It's a different team with wade and without Gasol and Noah though

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:30 AM
The Blazers are overachieving plain and simple, they have a negative run differential of -4.2, The other 3 I agree are better than the Raptors.

Baseball fan spotted ;)

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:34 AM
I love me some Jimmy Butler, he definately defends Demar better than anyone I've seen. It's a different team with wade and without Gasol and Noah though

Yea we'll have to see what happens. I like this team a lot better than last though. Pau was addition by subtraction and honestly could say the same about Noah. We just need to get rid of Rondo for a better fit and we'll be good to go.

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:36 AM
The Blazers are overachieving plain and simple, they have a negative run differential of -4.2, The other 3 I agree are better than the Raptors.

Idk about overachieving. I think they're 7-5 and we had absolutely no problem with them last night. Jimmy and Wade both outplayed Dame and CJ and Jerian grant did as well lol. Idk what their problem is this year, I thought they would be better.

Clint Olbrock
11-17-2016, 12:37 AM
Name 5 teams better than the Raptors.

Hawks, Celtics, Pacers, Hornets, Bulls, Pistons(once Jackson gets back), Obviously the Cavs because they son the Raptors every chance they get. Heck if the Knicks could kick it in gear they could be in that conversation too.

The Raptors have one glorified chucker... Who 2 nights ago took 27 FGA to get 26 points, that is awful. Said chucker and his 2nd in command both shrink come playoff time, unimpressed!

Vee-Rex
11-17-2016, 12:39 AM
Yea we'll have to see what happens. I like this team a lot better than last though. Pau was addition by subtraction and honestly could say the same about Noah. We just need to get rid of Rondo for a better fit and we'll be good to go.

Love the makeover for the Bulls. I can actually root for the Bulls now with Joakim Noah gone. Can't stand that dude. :D

Vampirate
11-17-2016, 12:39 AM
Anyways outside Lebron the Cavs are really nothing special, yeah Kyrie can score and is a very good 3 point shooter, Love looks like an ineffecient Derozan with a 3 point shot. Almost every single player there was pretty much looked at as 'Losers' before Lebron came there.

That's just how good Lebron really is.

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:44 AM
Love the makeover for the Bulls. I can actually root for the Bulls now with Joakim Noah gone. Can't stand that dude. :D

Yea I'm sure a lot of people are like that lol. He was one of those players you love if he's on your team and you hate if he isn't. I love the new team though. Dropped a few we shouldn't due to guys playing out of their ***** in Amir, Sefalosha, and Noah (ironically) but were in the top of the league in a lot of categories so I'm interested to see how everything turns out. Very impressed with last nights win but this is a 6 game road trip so we need to keep the effort up.

bucketss
11-17-2016, 12:44 AM
Hawks, Celtics, Pacers, Hornets, Bulls, Pistons(once Jackson gets back), Obviously the Cavs because they son the Raptors every chance they get. Heck if the Knicks could kick it in gear they could be in that conversation too.

The Raptors have one glorified chucker... Who 2 nights ago took 27 FGA to get 26 points, that is awful. Said chucker and his 2nd in command both shrink come playoff time, unimpressed!

please stop posting :facepalm:

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:45 AM
Hopefully the Clippers win, it'll give us a better chance Saturday in LA. Top teams don't lose 2 in a row very often.

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:45 AM
Yea we'll have to see what happens. I like this team a lot better than last though. Pau was addition by subtraction and honestly could say the same about Noah. We just need to get rid of Rondo for a better fit and we'll be good to go.

Gasol always killed us! We never had the size to match up with him.

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:45 AM
please stop posting :facepalm:

Amen

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:46 AM
Hawks, Celtics, Pacers, Hornets, Bulls, Pistons(once Jackson gets back), Obviously the Cavs because they son the Raptors every chance they get. Heck if the Knicks could kick it in gear they could be in that conversation too.

The Raptors have one glorified chucker... Who 2 nights ago took 27 FGA to get 26 points, that is awful. Said chucker and his 2nd in command both shrink come playoff time, unimpressed!

Stop, this is ridiculous.

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:47 AM
Gasol always killed us! We never had the size to match up with him.

Yea he had some big games. Lopez fits better with this team but I wish we had a big like gasol who could score from wherever and playmake.

Clint Olbrock
11-17-2016, 12:48 AM
OK Raptors are the team to beat in the East, you all are brilliant!

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:50 AM
OK Raptors are the team to beat in the East, you all are idiots!

Cavs are the team to beat but you just named a few teams with losing records and claimed they were better than the Raptors

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:50 AM
Clippers couldn't wait until next game to play like this?

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 12:53 AM
Cavs are the team to beat but you just named a few teams with losing records and claimed they were better than the Raptors

He's trying to troll me, but doing an awful job at it.

Vampirate
11-17-2016, 12:59 AM
Cavs are the team to beat but you just named a few teams with losing records and claimed they were better than the Raptors

I think the Hawks, Hornets and maybe the Bulls have a legit stance in the argument.

The Celts REALLY not only need a rebounder but a defensive presence.

The Pistons will get as far as Drummond goes and are unproven.

The Pacers are a reach as that team is mediocre to the core.


The one thing the Raps have that the rest don't is they have a track record of getting close to or over 50 wins and they are the only team in the East that put any kind of a dent to Cleveland last year in the playoffs.

Vampirate
11-17-2016, 01:12 AM
Man you look at the West these days and teams past the Spurs just don't look that great anymore.

Kinda you got 3 Championship contenders in GSW, Spurs and the Clippers, from seeds 4-8 who cares.

tredigs
11-17-2016, 01:17 AM
Man you look at the West these days and teams past the Spurs just don't look that great anymore.

Kinda you got 3 Championship contenders in GSW, Spurs and the Clippers, from seeds 4-8 who cares.

As opposed to the East where if you're not on Lebron's team you have never made the Finals in 6 years and counting? I'll take it.

Vampirate
11-17-2016, 01:20 AM
As opposed to the East where if you're not on Lebron's team you have never made the Finals in 6 years and counting? I'll take it.

No, I mean where you compare it to the West in the past where everyone seemed to have .600+ records and the 9th team in the west had a .570 winning percentage, those days seem to be gone now. The West back then was a real Juggernaught for all the seeds, nowadays it's extremely top heavy, not as bad as Lebron in the East but still.

Clint Olbrock
11-17-2016, 01:21 AM
It's not about a losing record right now or how many games a team can win in the regular season...

Not even trying to take a shot at the Warriors but 73-9 didn't matter, if people want a less controversial option then the 2015 Hawks won 60 games and got swept in the ECF.

I will take any of the teams I named over the Raptors in a 7 game series IF the on'es missing their key guys get healthy and the other teams with newer key cogs time to adjust.

100% serious the Raptors do not impress me, as a whole. Last year, vs their history is an outlier.. It was the first time they ever even made the ECF and we got a couple homers saying they're the team to beat in the East then a few others ranking them on the Cavs heels.. It's not realistic to me and when the Raptors flop in the playoffs, again.. I'd like to see what everyone thinks then.

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 01:31 AM
It's not about a losing record right now or how many games a team can win in the regular season...

Not even trying to take a shot at the Warriors but 73-9 didn't matter, if people want a less controversial option then the 2015 Hawks won 60 games and got swept in the ECF.

I will take any of the teams I named over the Raptors in a 7 game series IF the on'es missing their key guys get healthy and the other teams with newer key cogs time to adjust.

100% serious the Raptors do not impress me, as a whole. Last year, vs their history is an outlier.. It was the first time they ever even made the ECF and we got a couple homers saying they're the team to beat in the East then a few others ranking them on the Cavs heels.. It's not realistic to me and when the Raptors flop in the playoffs, again.. I'd like to see what everyone thinks then.

Hate to break to the news to you bud but the Cavs got gifted that championship. The gift shop is closed now, Lebron got Cleveland his ring. The league saw their chance to reward their golden boy and took it, nothing more, nothing less. GS should be b2b champs right now, and honestly I look at the league like they are. Cleveland's championship means nothing to me

bucketss
11-17-2016, 01:36 AM
It's not about a losing record right now or how many games a team can win in the regular season...

Not even trying to take a shot at the Warriors but 73-9 didn't matter, if people want a less controversial option then the 2015 Hawks won 60 games and got swept in the ECF.

I will take any of the teams I named over the Raptors in a 7 game series IF the on'es missing their key guys get healthy and the other teams with newer key cogs time to adjust.

100% serious the Raptors do not impress me, as a whole. Last year, vs their history is an outlier.. It was the first time they ever even made the ECF and we got a couple homers saying they're the team to beat in the East then a few others ranking them on the Cavs heels.. It's not realistic to me and when the Raptors flop in the playoffs, again.. I'd like to see what everyone thinks then.
:yawn:

Gibby23
11-17-2016, 02:00 AM
It's not about a losing record right now or how many games a team can win in the regular season...

Not even trying to take a shot at the Warriors but 73-9 didn't matter, if people want a less controversial option then the 2015 Hawks won 60 games and got swept in the ECF.

I will take any of the teams I named over the Raptors in a 7 game series IF the on'es missing their key guys get healthy and the other teams with newer key cogs time to adjust.

100% serious the Raptors do not impress me, as a whole. Last year, vs their history is an outlier.. It was the first time they ever even made the ECF and we got a couple homers saying they're the team to beat in the East then a few others ranking them on the Cavs heels.. It's not realistic to me and when the Raptors flop in the playoffs, again.. I'd like to see what everyone thinks then.

Probably some of the stupidest analysis I ever read. Are the Cavs not that good because based on their history, last year was an outlier? Lol. I see the point you are making, just don't base it on dumb stuff.

More-Than-Most
11-17-2016, 02:15 AM
It's not about a losing record right now or how many games a team can win in the regular season...

Not even trying to take a shot at the Warriors but 73-9 didn't matter, if people want a less controversial option then the 2015 Hawks won 60 games and got swept in the ECF.

I will take any of the teams I named over the Raptors in a 7 game series IF the on'es missing their key guys get healthy and the other teams with newer key cogs time to adjust.

100% serious the Raptors do not impress me, as a whole. Last year, vs their history is an outlier.. It was the first time they ever even made the ECF and we got a couple homers saying they're the team to beat in the East then a few others ranking them on the Cavs heels.. It's not realistic to me and when the Raptors flop in the playoffs, again.. I'd like to see what everyone thinks then.

how many playoff wins did the warriors have before they won their first championship? How about the lakers with Shaq and Kobe? History is just that... The history of the raptors has 0 to do with this season and how good they can be.

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 02:15 AM
It's not about a losing record right now or how many games a team can win in the regular season...

Not even trying to take a shot at the Warriors but 73-9 didn't matter, if people want a less controversial option then the 2015 Hawks won 60 games and got swept in the ECF.

I will take any of the teams I named over the Raptors in a 7 game series IF the on'es missing their key guys get healthy and the other teams with newer key cogs time to adjust.

100% serious the Raptors do not impress me, as a whole. Last year, vs their history is an outlier.. It was the first time they ever even made the ECF and we got a couple homers saying they're the team to beat in the East then a few others ranking them on the Cavs heels.. It's not realistic to me and when the Raptors flop in the playoffs, again.. I'd like to see what everyone thinks then.

You're getting straight roasted homie.... and I'm tryin to stay out of it!!!

More-Than-Most
11-17-2016, 02:24 AM
Not only did gasol just ****ing hit a dagger... THE WALK WAS AMAZING LOLOLOLOL

kdspurman
11-17-2016, 02:27 AM
I put a little $ on Memphis tonight again.. they were a +725... :D

They lost to the Clips once, I felt they'd come back strong.

kdspurman
11-17-2016, 02:28 AM
Not only did gasol just ****ing hit a dagger... THE WALK WAS AMAZING LOLOLOLOL

That was classic lol

tp13baby
11-17-2016, 03:18 AM
Mudiay just turned in a 15 pt performance with 6 assists with zero turnovers? This is ludacris.

Lakers + Giants
11-17-2016, 05:11 AM
I put a little $ on Memphis tonight again.. they were a +725... :D

They lost to the Clips once, I felt they'd come back strong.

That was impressive. I dropped money on the clips ML at half time. Thought they had won it already when they took the lead in crunch time. :(

Saddletramp
11-17-2016, 05:14 AM
Ariza is an idiot. Down 3 with 12 seconds to go wide open in the corner (after a Harden steal), and randomly leaves his spot as the pass comes to make a cut to the hoop. Goes down as a Harden turnover which is hilarious. As dumb a basketball play as you will ever see at this level.

He shoulda stayed but there was no one in front of him. 39% to tie or 100% to get within one and play the free throw game? I can see why he took off for the rim. I see guys doing that periodically.

But that fourth was brutal. Just vomitous all over.


Also, Jamychal Green looks like Urkel's alter ego with a beard.

Clint Olbrock
11-17-2016, 08:04 AM
Hate to break to the news to you bud but the Cavs got gifted that championship. The gift shop is closed now, Lebron got Cleveland his ring. The league saw their chance to reward their golden boy and took it, nothing more, nothing less. GS should be b2b champs right now, and honestly I look at the league like they are. Cleveland's championship means nothing to me

IDC about your butthurt tinfoil hat takes, your team is trash.. Always has been and always will be.

When they early exit out of the playoffs, you and everyone else are gonna hear about it.

Cavs should be b2b champs, is what you meant to say.

kdspurman
11-17-2016, 08:55 AM
That was impressive. I dropped money on the clips ML at half time. Thought they had won it already when they took the lead in crunch time. :(

Man me too lol
It turned out to be a helluva game

tredigs
11-17-2016, 09:39 AM
No, I mean where you compare it to the West in the past where everyone seemed to have .600+ records and the 9th team in the west had a .570 winning percentage, those days seem to be gone now. The West back then was a real Juggernaught for all the seeds, nowadays it's extremely top heavy, not as bad as Lebron in the East but still.
Oh gotcha. Ya it's more top heavy the past couple years. The Lakers and Wolves are coming though and should make for very tough playoff teams as soon as next year.

Vee-Rex
11-17-2016, 09:42 AM
OK Raptors are the team to beat in the East, you all are brilliant!

FYI, Milt was clowned and ridiculed already in another thread. At this point I think everyone is just tired of responding to him and find it worthless.

Cavs are the champs so we'll have to endure stuff like that lol. Warriors went through the same thing last year. Comes with the territory!

tredigs
11-17-2016, 09:44 AM
I put a little $ on Memphis tonight again.. they were a +725... :D

They lost to the Clips once, I felt they'd come back strong.

Verry nice. Didn't catch the whole thing but it looks like Conley beasting over CP3 was the difference. Nice to see him brought back down to earth for a change.

tredigs
11-17-2016, 09:48 AM
Currys back to >50/45/90. Has better offensive production than his first MVP season. Whould've thought.

Scoots
11-17-2016, 09:54 AM
DeRozan has been undervalued for a couple years now, the Warriors made him a clear defensive focus, double teaming him with good defenders over and over and he struggled like pretty much anyone would, but the refs called him a good game after the 1st quarter. In the first they were letting them play inside and it was hurting him, after that they started calling more and more inside so DD just started going harder and harder to get the calls. It's ugly basketball, but more power to him! Combined DD and Steph went 29-30 from the line with the one miss being Curry.

I kind of feel like that kind officiating has done as much or more to kill the mid-range shot than the 3 point shot.

Scoots
11-17-2016, 09:58 AM
Oh gotcha. Ya it's more top heavy the past couple years. The Lakers and Wolves are coming though and should make for very tough playoff teams as soon as next year.

A couple years ago there were some old teams propping the middle up and that couldn't continue ... now there is real quality youth coming up. I think the West is probably even tougher now considering that none of the teams are tanking and even the teams at the bottom have real high end NBA talent. That quality at the bottom means that winning percentages are coming back to the mean but I think the talent overall is better.

tredigs
11-17-2016, 10:44 AM
Worth mentioning that the Hawks own the t-1st best record in the East and the best win differential, including a road win over the Cavs.

Will Millsap plus the newly revitalized D Howard and a decent guard rotation be enough to actually threaten for a title?

ClutchTime
11-17-2016, 11:03 AM
Kicking myself this morning. Was going to stay up and watch the Clips Grizzlies game but didn't end up watching.

Miltstar
11-17-2016, 11:53 AM
FYI, Milt was clowned and ridiculed already in another thread. At this point I think everyone is just tired of responding to him and find it worthless.

Cavs are the champs so we'll have to endure stuff like that lol. Warriors went through the same thing last year. Comes with the territory!

I never get clowned homie, Cavs fans sound stupid when trying to respond to me, that team is trash... good thing they have uniforms for the refs! They are the champs by title only, they don't got the heart of a true champion

Vee-Rex
11-17-2016, 11:58 AM
Worth mentioning that the Hawks own the t-1st best record in the East and the best win differential, including a road win over the Cavs.

Will Millsap plus the newly revitalized D Howard and a decent guard rotation be enough to actually threaten for a title?

What scares me most is that Dwight has always owned TT in their matchups. In this last one he completely neutralized TT and our rebounding while their guards (+ Bazemore) were nailing their shots. In that scenario I think they can definitely threaten us, but I don't think they'd have a chance against Golden State.

kdspurman
11-17-2016, 12:04 PM
Worth mentioning that the Hawks own the t-1st best record in the East and the best win differential, including a road win over the Cavs.

Will Millsap plus the newly revitalized D Howard and a decent guard rotation be enough to actually threaten for a title?

Idk honestly, but I really like their look thus far. It's still a little early for me, but they've got the right pieces/versatility to challenge the Cavs.

I did think Dwight would be revitalized in that kind of environment vs what he was dealing with in Houston

nycericanguy
11-17-2016, 12:08 PM
Idk honestly, but I really like their look thus far. It's still a little early for me, but they've got the right pieces/versatility to challenge the Cavs.

I did think Dwight would be revitalized in that kind of environment vs what he was dealing with in Houston

they're lacking an ISO type scorer at the wing, someone like Melo honestly.

but Dwight had become criminally underrated by a lot of people. I said it for a while he's a clear upgrade over Horford.

Vee-Rex
11-17-2016, 12:16 PM
Idk honestly, but I really like their look thus far. It's still a little early for me, but they've got the right pieces/versatility to challenge the Cavs.

I did think Dwight would be revitalized in that kind of environment vs what he was dealing with in Houston

It's definitely early but still fun to speculate.

Atlanta will look like world champions one month and then lose to a bunch of scrub teams at home the next month. It's really hard to say, especially when we're talking about a 7-game series. I do hope they manage D-12 well so he can be fully healthy, though. It would make for a very interesting series to see him against LeBron again.

R!kSm!tz
11-17-2016, 12:35 PM
What scares me most is that Dwight has always owned TT in their matchups. In this last one he completely neutralized TT and our rebounding while their guards (+ Bazemore) were nailing their shots. In that scenario I think they can definitely threaten us, but I don't think they'd have a chance against Golden State.

You have nothing to be worried about. If you're going to beat the Cavs you have to have someone that can play near LeBrons level (30 point triple doubles) if you want to beat them in a series. I don't think the Hawks have anything like that. They may not even have anyone who can match Kyrie. You all swept them last year and I believe the only move they made was replacing Horford with Howard. Horford was terrible in the playoffs but I doubt the change will make that much of a difference.