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kdspurman
11-03-2016, 03:12 PM
Thursday November 3rd, 2016





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Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 03:22 PM
Time to put the hurt on Boston to make up for the World Series loss.

Boston is playing without Horford + Crowder on the 2nd night of a b2b in Cleveland. I'm hoping we blow them out. But my gut tells me that Boston will keep it close for most of the game (because I swear they play us harder and better than they play anyone else). I wouldn't be surprised to see Crowder out there on crutches with how much he hates us. And Isaiah Thomas is as dirty as they come - though probably not Green-dirty.

On an unrelated note, I just spent my honeymoon in Boston. Amazing city - would certainly return there in the future.

IKnowHoops
11-03-2016, 03:31 PM
Time to put the hurt on Boston to make up for the World Series loss.

Boston is playing without Horford + Crowder on the 2nd night of a b2b in Cleveland. I'm hoping we blow them out. But my gut tells me that Boston will keep it close for most of the game (because I swear they play us harder and better than they play anyone else). I wouldn't be surprised to see Crowder out there on crutches with how much he hates us. And Isaiah Thomas is as dirty as they come - though probably not Green-dirty.

On an unrelated note, I just spent my honeymoon in Boston. Amazing city - would certainly return there in the future.

Congrats

Chronz
11-03-2016, 04:24 PM
Thinking there are no games to bet on today.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 04:42 PM
Thinking there are no games to bet on today.
It's an ugly slate. Dubs/OKC UNDER 222 is tempting though.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 04:57 PM
It's time to get hyped!!!!!!

:cheer:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?915849-WCF-Rematch-Game-5-Thunder-(4-0)-Warriors-(3-1)&p=31280021#post31280021

WCF rematch!!!!!!

lol, please
11-03-2016, 04:58 PM
Thinking there are no games to bet on today.

blasphemy.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 08:32 PM
Announcer just said "'Bron's shot has been excellent this year". He's shooting 27.8% from three, 63% from the line and according to bbref has exactly 0 made shots from 16-23 feet.

Do they just speak to speak?

tredigs
11-03-2016, 08:41 PM
0 turnovers and 55% from three + 100% from the line for Cleveland. #EasyGame

Looks like an ugly one for Boston without Crowder and Horford if the Cavs don't give them any easy opportunities.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 08:50 PM
Lue is really playing with rotations to start the season. I wish he would give Felder some more run, though. I just don't care for Shumpert at the point guard position.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 08:53 PM
And they came back because of that stupid lineup we had in.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 08:57 PM
Kyrie has that GENE, man.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 09:05 PM
Tristan just took Tyler Zeller's SOUL. Man I don't miss having Zeller at all.

Green_Monster
11-03-2016, 09:25 PM
Tristan just took Tyler Zeller's SOUL. Man I don't miss having Zeller at all.

That was pretty nasty.

It's too easy for the Cavs out there with Horford/Crowder/Olynyk out. Any chance the Celtics had is gone.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 09:33 PM
That was pretty nasty.

It's too easy for the Cavs out there with Horford/Crowder/Olynyk out. Any chance the Celtics had is gone.

Yeah, the situation was definitely stacked against you guys. I'm still not counting you out from making a second half run, though.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 09:36 PM
Man I wish we had Bradley on our team.

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 09:57 PM
Boston plays at 110% for 48 minutes. It's mildly disturbing.

We can never truly pull away from them in any of our matchups.

More-Than-Most
11-03-2016, 10:01 PM
Lebron looks like he is playing at half speed and they are still dominating Boston... I Know Boston are missing guys but I expected better than what they are showing

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 10:14 PM
Lebron looks like he is playing at half speed and they are still dominating Boston... I Know Boston are missing guys but I expected better than what they are showing

They're missing key guys. Started bench players which hurt their depth too.

Bron is definitely coasting so far this year. It's good he doesn't have to carry the scoring load.

He turned it up a little in the third. 20 points in that quarter alone.

tp13baby
11-03-2016, 10:16 PM
Can Denver close out a game for once?

Green_Monster
11-03-2016, 10:17 PM
Lebron looks like he is playing at half speed and they are still dominating Boston... I Know Boston are missing guys but I expected better than what they are showing

Boston is missing two top four players and their bench is shaky right now.

Cleveland is a great team. I'm not sure what you could expect Boston to do other than give 110% until the end.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 10:46 PM
Thanks to this stupid Cavaliers game I am missing what is probably already a blowout on the Thunder.... :facepalm:

Hate how the scheduling does this to games at times, for NBA and NFL.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 10:49 PM
Thanks to this stupid Cavaliers game I am missing what is probably already a blowout on the Thunder.... :facepalm:

Hate how the scheduling does this to games at times, for NBA and NFL.

Don't worry, they waited to start it.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
11-03-2016, 10:49 PM
IT's going for the scoring title lol.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 10:53 PM
Durantula is wet!!!!! BIG 3 to open the game!!!!

Vee-Rex
11-03-2016, 11:01 PM
I've gotta be in the minority here but I LOVE when a coach gets fired up like that. Great T by Kerr IMO.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 11:02 PM
I don't get the Westbrook troll of wearing a photographers vest, even if it is a hobby of KD's. Can anybody explain that?

Chronz
11-03-2016, 11:18 PM
LOL nice troll move IMO, did not know that.

Its crazy how much the guy is sweating to end the first and how visibly fresh KD is.

aman_13
11-03-2016, 11:21 PM
LOL nice troll move IMO, did not know that.

Its crazy how much the guy is sweating to end the first and how visibly fresh KD is.

He goes 100 all game.

Htownballa1622
11-03-2016, 11:23 PM
Lots of chirping going on. Durant is still a ***** but a superior basketball player to everyone on the floor.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:27 PM
All kinds of silly mistakes by OKC.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:29 PM
I've gotta be in the minority here but I LOVE when a coach gets fired up like that. Great T by Kerr IMO.

Why would you be the minority? :laugh2: What kind of bland, emotionless person wouldn't? I'd be surprised if the whole site didnt' unanimously agree with that one lol.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 11:30 PM
LOL nice troll move IMO, did not know that.

Its crazy how much the guy is sweating to end the first and how visibly fresh KD is.

What's the troll? I legit don't get it. If it's for KD it's like "HAH you like photography so imma dress as a pro one! GOTEM!". I don't get it lol.

Westbrook 0 for his last 12 from three dating to 2 games ago I believe. Keep it up Westy.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 11:31 PM
Klay's 3-ball progressing to the mean tonight.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:32 PM
I didn't even notice that til it was replayed and discussed. Iggy walking away holding up "3" as Klay shoots the corner 3.

Straight savage.

Htownballa1622
11-03-2016, 11:33 PM
It's hilarious watching klay try to break someone down off the dribble .

tredigs
11-03-2016, 11:35 PM
Westbrook just looking to drive and get bailed out every possession.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:36 PM
Klay's 3-ball progressing to the mean tonight.

As it should be.

Htownballa1622
11-03-2016, 11:38 PM
Warriors are way too good.

This will likely be a blowout.

One team has so much shooting while the other has practically none.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:39 PM
It's hilarious watching klay try to break someone down off the dribble .

I love how you make it sound like Klay can't create his own shot or cross someone up and leave em frozen lol.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:40 PM
Ward on TV! Ward is an Oakland native but I am a Kovalev fan all the way.

Htownballa1622
11-03-2016, 11:41 PM
I love how you make it sound like Klay can't create his own shot or cross someone up and leave em frozen lol.

Creating his own shot? Sure.

Cross someone up? Haha no.

Let's be real. Klay is such a nice player. Breaking someone down off the dribble isn't a strength . Doesn't matter. His team doesn't depend on that.

His shot is starting to fall again. He'll be ok.

Htownballa1622
11-03-2016, 11:43 PM
Kd explosion.

tredigs
11-03-2016, 11:46 PM
Welcome to Durant's night Westbrook.

zn23
11-03-2016, 11:49 PM
Damn, KD is on a mission.

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:51 PM
Durant with a MONSTER rejection on Westbrook.


This is heating up.....

More-Than-Most
11-03-2016, 11:52 PM
Westbrook just looking to drive and get bailed out every possession.

happens when you pass it and guys are missing layups... Westbrooke is so far ahead of durant this season its just flat out silly... Durant is showing his balls in this game because he is fresh... You really cant tell the difference between him and westy in that first quarter where westy did literally everything?

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:54 PM
Durant jawing at the Thunder bench

:laugh:

More-Than-Most
11-03-2016, 11:54 PM
westy is getting no calls... durant is red hot. I hope these 2 meet up in the playoffs because this is fun

More-Than-Most
11-03-2016, 11:55 PM
Durant jawing at the Thunder bench

:laugh:

yea hes good at talking **** and walking away

tredigs
11-03-2016, 11:55 PM
happens when you pass it and guys are missing layups... Westbrooke is so far ahead of durant this season its just flat out silly... Durant is showing his balls in this game because he is fresh... You really cant tell the difference between him and westy in that first quarter where westy did literally everything?
Hahahahh!

Ahhhhhh.... hahahahaha.

You think Westy is "so far ahead of KD"??? That is epic. Don't confuse role and usage percentage with elite play.

Westbrook getting straight murdered out here in Oracle.

zn23
11-03-2016, 11:56 PM
Kanter doesn't want it....

lol, please
11-03-2016, 11:56 PM
happens when you pass it and guys are missing layups... Westbrooke is so far ahead of durant this season its just flat out silly... Durant is showing his balls in this game because he is fresh... You really cant tell the difference between him and westy in that first quarter where westy did literally everything?

http://replygif.net/i/1355.gif

SteBO
11-03-2016, 11:57 PM
KDs won the night thus far....it's unfair how great he is.

More-Than-Most
11-03-2016, 11:59 PM
Hahahahh!

Ahhhhhh.... hahahahaha.

You think Westy is "so far ahead of KD"??? That is epic. Don't confuse role and usage percentage with elite play.

Westbrook getting straight murdered out here in Oracle.

High usage when everyone is just defending you and nobody else on your team is worth a damn while having elite play with the high usage means a ton.

BullsFan_1
11-04-2016, 12:00 AM
This entire regular season is going to be a giant waste of about six months.

Just start the finals now.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:02 AM
again Westy getting murdered right? Let me ask the warriors fans something... When Durant takes a shot how many guys are on him? 1.... When westy gets the ball the entire team collapses... This was expected when you lack the help Westy has and the amazing team and lack of depth the thunder have with all new moving pieces.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:02 AM
Warriors went on a 47-12 run after falling behind early.

YAALREADYKNO
11-04-2016, 12:03 AM
No Big surprise. The thunder are just out matched lol only way they have a chance is if Westbrook goes berserk

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:04 AM
Thunder just needs to do the NBA a favor and trade him to the Spurs or Cavs.

KD trash talking Kanter after ditching the team, supposedly a top 3-5 player, and joined a Super team? Why even do it? Just makes you look bad.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:04 AM
again Westy getting murdered right? Let me ask the warriors fans something... When Durant takes a shot how many guys are on him? 1.... When westy gets the ball the entire team collapses... This was expected when you lack the help Westy has and the amazing team and lack of depth the thunder have with all new moving pieces.

Oh it's "expected" now? Against the weak Warriors D I'm hearing all about?? Haha and why is it not expected in all these other games where he is "so far ahead of Kevin Durant this season"?

Not making much sense here.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:04 AM
This entire regular season is going to be a giant waste of about six months.

Just start the finals now.

I strongly disagree... I think Boston healthy and Atlanta might give the Cavs trouble... I think the spurs/clippers will give the warriors trouble... I do think we will see a part 3 with the warriors winning the championship but the spurs have the recipe and the players needed to maybe upset the warriors.

poleandreel
11-04-2016, 12:04 AM
Warriors are playing well and KD is on fire. But my god KD is looking like a real p****y trying to act tough. It's sad honestly. And draymond is just insanely unlikable. The guy is down 8, gets a rebound putback and screams and pumps fist. Are you kidding me? Guy is a straight imbecile.

KD is on fire but seriously...the second night of a back to back and Warriors are fresh. KD is shooting wide open shots and people acting like he's a god.

Also last few thoughts: Westbrook is getting zero calls. Curry gets so many BS foul calls when he doesnt get touched. That was a clear goaltending call on KD. They keep showing blocks the warriors are getting then the replay is clearly a foul so they cut away from the replay

LA_1
11-04-2016, 12:05 AM
Durant with a cowardly performance. Disgusting how much of a ***** **** sucking ***** he is for joining the warriors.

And god damn draymond is a ugly *** donkey annoying monkey.

SteBO
11-04-2016, 12:06 AM
Durant with a cowardly performance. Disgusting how much of a ***** **** sucking ***** he is for joining the warriors.

And god damn draymond is a ugly *** donkey annoying monkey.
This is sports. Why so mad? Why the racy content?

5ass
11-04-2016, 12:06 AM
Man I wish the game was more competitive. Westbrook deserves better.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:07 AM
Oh it's "expected" now? Against the weak Warriors D I'm hearing all about?? Haha and why is it not expected in all these other games where he is "so far ahead of Kevin Durant this season"?

Not making much sense here.

Um it makes 100 percent sense... Westy being way ahead of Durant is because he is doing what he is doing with NOTHING.... Westy is playing at or above the level of Durant WITH NOTHING.... The warriors have interior weak defense but that wont matter against teams that have inside bigs and perimeter defense... Clippers/spurs/cavs

You are one of the smarter basketball people here man until it comes to the warriors... Durant is a god... What westy is doing is far more impressive through 5 games.

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:07 AM
I want to see Green replace Davis on the Pelicans and see his chest thumping then.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:08 AM
Anyone defending Durant is laughable... Westy blocks him and runs the other way... Durant does anything and he acts like he won his first championship... He really is a puss

YAALREADYKNO
11-04-2016, 12:10 AM
I want to see Green replace Davis on the Pelicans and see his chest thumping then.

Dude started screaming and getting hyped when he forced Anthony Morrow to travel of all people lol

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:10 AM
Thunder just needs to do the NBA a favor and trade him to the Spurs or Cavs.

KD trash talking Kanter after ditching the team, supposedly a top 3-5 player, and joined a Super team? Why even do it? Just makes you look bad.

Because he's a sav like that. I love it. Walk over these cats Durant! No mercy, no regrets, no respect.

Durant barking at that bench had me more fired up then when MVPandoval hit 3 HR's against the Tigers in 2012 in the WS. I've still got a massive erection from that and it's halfway through halftime.

SteBO
11-04-2016, 12:10 AM
With KD in the fold, they're gonna take the big 3 HEAT small ball approach to probably the greatest extreme. Only thing I question about them really is their interior defense......

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:10 AM
man... looking at KG... How can decline set it on someone like him... Dude is in the best shape ever... It boggles my mind how in couple of year span he fell off like he did and then retired... Dude looks as good now as he did when he was 20

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:11 AM
The Warriors blocked 27% of OKC's 1st half shots.

That is a real number.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:13 AM
The Warriors blocked 27% of OKC's 1st half shots.

That is a real number.

And Durant outscored them in the 2nd quarter by himself 26-11. LMAO.

YAALREADYKNO
11-04-2016, 12:13 AM
Because he's a sav like that. I love it. Walk over these cats Durant! No mercy, no regrets, no respect.

Durant barking at that bench had me more fired up then when MVPandoval hit 3 HR's against the Tigers in 2012 in the WS. I've still got a massive erection from that and it's halfway through halftime.

He wasn't doing that when kawhi and them boys was in town lol

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:15 AM
He wasn't doing that when kawhi and them boys was in town lol

:laugh:

Scoots
11-04-2016, 12:15 AM
Iguodala's line at the half is 0 points, 2 rebounds, 1 asssist, 0 steals, 0 blocks, 29 +/- ... this is both the perfect example of +/- being a needed stat and being a flawed stat.

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:15 AM
He wasn't doing that when kawhi and them boys was in town lol

He also wasn't a 'sav' up 3-1 to the team he came crawling to.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:16 AM
What a steal by Klay!! Set up Durant with an easy bucket.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:17 AM
What's the record for turnovers in a 2 day span? Westy at 15 and counting.

aman_13
11-04-2016, 12:17 AM
Anyone defending Durant is laughable... Westy blocks him and runs the other way... Durant does anything and he acts like he won his first championship... He really is a puss

Woah

aman_13
11-04-2016, 12:19 AM
Some of yall sound so bitter.

SteBO
11-04-2016, 12:19 AM
Well that escalated quickly.....KD 7-9 on three's.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:21 AM
5 games into his stint in Golden State KD has the most 3's in a game of his career.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:22 AM
5 games into his stint in Golden State KD has the most 3's in a game of his career.

I got a chub reading this...

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:24 AM
back to back 3's for King Klay!!!!

Dubs coming together like Voltron!

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:25 AM
again Example A... Westy drove and 4 guys collapsed on him... BUT YO the Westy has a ton of help lol

SteBO
11-04-2016, 12:26 AM
again Example A... Westy drove and 4 guys collapsed on him... BUT YO the Westy has a ton of help lol
Who claimed that Westbrook has help?

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:26 AM
man... looking at KG... How can decline set it on someone like him... Dude is in the best shape ever... It boggles my mind how in couple of year span he fell off like he did and then retired... Dude looks as good now as he did when he was 20

Never was the same after his knee injury in year 2 with the Celtics. Still in great shape but he doesn't have the lower body explosion anymore. It obviously got gradually worse from their. Father time is undefeated.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:27 AM
Who claimed that Westbrook has help?

Nobody. He's devolved into just making up fake comments.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:28 AM
I feel like we should get used to this as NBA fan... a matchup for GS we get really excited about and then they go up by 20. People will eventually turn off the 2nd halfs. And eventually no one will even bother tuning in.

Everyone talks about getting rid of cap loopholes for parity but GS already has these guys through their prime. Honestly, we gotta make more loopholes so at least someone can have close to their talent level.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:30 AM
Who claimed that Westbrook has help?

not lack of help but the stupidity of thinking Durant is on Westy level through 5 games like what you have around you is irrelevant... Its easy to be great with low usage on a warriors team where you are being solo defended with 5 feet of space because they are scared of curry/clay from the outside and green from inside.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:32 AM
I feel like we should get used to this as NBA fan... a matchup for GS we get really excited about and then they go up by 20. People will eventually turn off the 2nd halfs. And eventually no one will even bother tuning in.

Everyone talks about getting rid of cap loopholes for parity but GS already has these guys through their prime. Honestly, we gotta make more loopholes so at least someone can have close to their talent level.

Yea...don't think so.

I could see that happening in the NFL, but not in the NBA. It's a fast paced game and anything can happen. It didn't happen for Jordan's Bulls, Wade's heat when Lebron chased a ring, Birds Celtics, Shaq's Lakers, etc. People will tune in because games will be closer, because the Warriors play a fan friendly style of ball, and because people will tune in to hope to see them lose - like Floyd Mayweather Jr.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:33 AM
not lack of help but the stupidity of thinking Durant is on Westy level through 5 games like what you have around you is irrelevant... Its easy to be great with low usage on a warriors team where you are being solo defended with 5 feet of space because they are scared of curry/clay from the outside and green from inside.

Yeah Durant has it easier but his level of excellence is pretty well established. Her certainly doesn't need a loaded roster to be great. He just wanted one.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:34 AM
Yea...don't think so.

I could see that happening in the NFL, but not in the NBA. It's a fast paced game and anything can happen. It didn't happen for Jordan's Bulls, Wade's heat when Lebron chased a ring, Birds Celtics, Shaq's Lakers, etc. People will tune in because games will be closer, because the Warriors play a fan friendly style of ball, and because people will tune in to hope to see them lose - like Floyd Mayweather Jr.

except no team on paper was this far ahead of other teams like the warriors are... Again the bulls had multiple other talented teams but the bulls were better... The league is literally warriors/spurs/cavs with less than 5 percent that 2 of these teams dont make the finals.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:35 AM
Yeah Durant has it easier but his level of excellence is pretty well established. Her certainly doesn't need a loaded roster to be great. He just wanted one.

oh 100 percent... We also have not seen Durant play without having help around him though... Ever... When has he ever had to carry a team? He had Harden/Westy his entire career and now moved on to a 73 win team lol... He has never once had to play at a high level with little to no help like Westy is and has this year... So me saying he is above Durant so far this year takes their help into account... Westy is god like where teams coming in only focus on him

He is quite literally the anti Lebron... He has been force fed help his entire career and because of Lebron has never had the critism or spotlight because that was all on James or how westy holds him back because of how selfish he is... Nobody has ever gotten a free pass when not winning a championship like durant has

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:36 AM
except no team on paper was this far ahead of other teams like the warriors are... Again the bulls had multiple other talented teams but the bulls were better... The league is literally warriors/spurs/cavs with less than 5 percent that 2 of these teams dont make the finals.

But that's both untrue and irrelevant.

Shaq's Lakers were STACKED.

the HEAT were overrated imo from the get-go but the hype was insane, and they lost that first year.

Teams on paper before the end of the season means literally nothing. Games aren't won on paper, games have to be played. Injuries happen. Upsets happen. Players fall off. Unknowns get better. Trades happen. Anomalies happen. This is why we watch.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:40 AM
But that's both untrue and irrelevant.

Shaq's Lakers were STACKED.

the HEAT were overrated imo from the get-go but the hype was insane, and they lost that first year.

Teams on paper before the end of the season means literally nothing. Games aren't won on paper, games have to be played. Injuries happen. Upsets happen. Players fall off. Unknowns get better. Trades happen. Anomalies happen. This is why we watch.

again this comes down to understanding basketball... The heat were stacked no doubt but only ******** fans had them winning a championship right off the back because people didnt understand 3 great players that have similar play styles wont fit and need time to gel... This team fits perfectly... Its not liked you guys added another Klay... You added quite frankly the perfect player that fits your team and he just so happens to be a top 4 player in basketball who just got to a team with 3 other top 13 players.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:40 AM
Durantula to the rim!!!!

:worthy:

Chronz
11-04-2016, 12:42 AM
Anyone really having fun watching this ****?

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:42 AM
Can't lie, I thought Flashbolt would be in here FIRED UP!!

Don't think i've seen him post once. :(

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:43 AM
If only Durant showed this fire in Game 6.

More-Than-Most
11-04-2016, 12:43 AM
Anyone really having fun watching this ****?

na... I havent watched any of the warriors games until they play cavs/spurs/clippers and maybe the rockets... I think the Rockets could give them some trouble maybe

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:44 AM
Anyone really having fun watching this ****?

I'm still watching for a brawl. It's so WWE right now.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:44 AM
If only Durant showed this fire in Game 6.

So confusing for me to read this stuff, every Raider fan I know is a Warrior fan as well lol.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:45 AM
na... I havent watched any of the warriors games until they play cavs/spurs/clippers and maybe the rockets... I think the Rockets could give them some trouble maybe

I agree about the Rockets, even their own fans underrate them lol.


Not sure what Chronz is on about, even as a non fan of these teams this has to be an entertaining game to people, with all the drama and such.

I'm definitely having a good time, but I am a warriors fan so why not.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:46 AM
But that's both untrue and irrelevant.

Shaq's Lakers were STACKED.

the HEAT were overrated imo from the get-go but the hype was insane, and they lost that first year.

Teams on paper before the end of the season means literally nothing. Games aren't won on paper, games have to be played. Injuries happen. Upsets happen. Players fall off. Unknowns get better. Trades happen. Anomalies happen. This is why we watch.

Shaq/Kobe were probably the 2 best players in the NBA. But that's the key 2. The rest of their team was good role players. The Warriors have 2 of the top 3 and then 2 more top 10/15. No one else has talent that's even comparable. In relation to the rest of the league they're the most dominant team since the Celtics. The disparity between them and the 2nd most talented team in the league is that big. It's something we haven't seen in our lifetimes.

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:47 AM
So confusing for me to read this stuff, every Raider fan I know is a Warrior fan as well lol.

I don't live in California. Screw the Warriors.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:48 AM
Anyone really having fun watching this ****?

I'm still interested the novelty of it. It's incredible to have so much talent on one roster. It really is. I'm still in the "awe" stage where I can just watch to admire how good they are. That obviously has a shelf life though.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:48 AM
Shaq/Kobe were probably the 2 best players in the NBA. But that's the key 2. The rest of their team was good role players. The Warriors have 2 of the top 3 and then 2 more top 10/15. No one else has talent that's even comparable. In relation to the rest of the league they're the most dominant team since the Celtics. The disparity between them and the 2nd most talented team in the league is that big. It's something we haven't seen in our lifetimes.

I'm not sure that the gap is that big, though. Aren't you old enough to remember Bird's Celtics? That was in the 80s and into the 90s iirc. I was only like 5-6, but I was alive, so I consider it my lifetime even if I didn't know a lick about the game at the time.

Unless you mean an older Celtics team, I am not too versed on NBA teams before the 80s.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:49 AM
I don't live in California. Screw the Warriors.

Fair enough. What team are you a fan of? Just totally curious at this point.

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:50 AM
Fair enough. What team are you a fan of? Just totally curious at this point.

Hawks. Fan of both since childhood.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:52 AM
Hawks. Fan of both since childhood.

Ahh, fair enough!

Congrats on this season, Raiders are one of the AFC teams I root for mildly and I am overjoyed at their success right now, the fans have deserved it for a long time.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 12:53 AM
oh 100 percent... We also have not seen Durant play without having help around him though... Ever... When has he ever had to carry a team? He had Harden/Westy his entire career and now moved on to a 73 win team lol... He has never once had to play at a high level with little to no help like Westy is and has this year... So me saying he is above Durant so far this year takes their help into account... Westy is god like where teams coming in only focus on him

He is quite literally the anti Lebron... He has been force fed help his entire career and because of Lebron has never had the critism or spotlight because that was all on James or how westy holds him back because of how selfish he is... Nobody has ever gotten a free pass when not winning a championship like durant has


Glad you asked MTM!

Post Harden in 2013/14 Westbrook only played 46 games so KD had to carry the load for a significant portion of the season. In the span of 12-27 until the AS Break in mid-February KD led the Thunder to a 26-7 record in that span while putting up 35/8/6 on 53/40/88. Considered one of the best month+ long stints in the modern-era. He was awarded MVP in near-unanimous fashion (later leading the playoffs in PPG while eventually losing in a tight WCF battle to the eventual champion Spurs... who beat the Heat in 5 in the Finals).

/lesson

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:53 AM
Ahh, fair enough!

Congrats on this season, Raiders are one of the AFC teams I root for mildly and I am overjoyed at their success right now, the fans have deserved it for a long time.

Thanks. Huge game coming up Sunday. :)

*Silver&Black*
11-04-2016, 12:55 AM
Durant vs scrubs right now lol

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:55 AM
I'm not sure that the gap is that big, though. Aren't you old enough to remember Bird's Celtics? That was in the 80s and into the 90s iirc. I was only like 5-6, but I was alive, so I consider it my lifetime even if I didn't know a lick about the game at the time.

Unless you mean an older Celtics team, I am not too versed on NBA teams before the 80s.

I meant the Bill Russell Celtics. Bird's Celtics had the Bad Boy Pistons and the Showtime Lakers.

There have been great teams before. GS isn't far and away the best team of all time. But there's never been the concentration of stars relative to everyone else. There's just no one that combines the elite players they have. They have 2 of the top 3. SA and CLE have probably a top 5 themselves but then their next best player would arguably be GS's 5th best player. It's absurd.

lol, please
11-04-2016, 12:57 AM
I meant the Bill Russell Celtics. Bird's Celtics had the Bad Boy Pistons and the Showtime Lakers.

There have been great teams before. GS isn't far and away the best team of all time. But there's never been the concentration of stars relative to everyone else. There's just no one that combines the elite players they have. They have 2 of the top 3. SA and CLE have probably a top 5 themselves but then their next best player would arguably be GS's 5th best player. It's absurd.

Ahh, I stand corrected, sorry.

I hear ya.

I guess you are right on paper but the games still need to be played. We will see how it all turns out.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 12:58 AM
Warriors fans trying to convince people this is exciting for neutral fans when it's even boring their head coach to sleep lol

Chronz
11-04-2016, 01:01 AM
I'm still interested the novelty of it. It's incredible to have so much talent on one roster. It really is. I'm still in the "awe" stage where I can just watch to admire how good they are. That obviously has a shelf life though.
How long until the novelty wears off? Id be more interested towards the end of the year when this unholy union is operating at peak capacity tbh. I have it playing in the background while I clean but I feel dirty even leaving it playing. This game would have been EPIC had KD been on the other side.

I did like seeing less iso based ball from a team that was so pass happy last year but this game was over by half time. What a waste

aman_13
11-04-2016, 01:02 AM
This is boring as ****.

Chronz
11-04-2016, 01:04 AM
Warriors fans trying to convince people this is exciting for neutral fans when it's even boring their head coach to sleep lol

What did you spot?

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 01:05 AM
How long until the novelty wears off? Id be more interested towards the end of the year when this unholy union is operating at peak capacity tbh. I have it playing in the background while I clean but I feel dirty even leaving it playing. This game would have been EPIC had KD been on the other side.

I did like seeing less iso based ball from a team that was so pass happy last year but this game was over by half time. What a waste

**** KD in OKC I wanted him BOS so the first game of the double header could have been epic! lol

And IDK, I'll be interested for a bit. I'll give it a year. After that, it'll be wake me up if/when they're facing elimination or playing the Celtics.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 01:06 AM
What did you spot?

They showed Kerr with on the bench with his head in his hands and then he kind of jumped up. It was like a kid half asleep when the teacher calls on him haha

tredigs
11-04-2016, 01:18 AM
Well they're playing a non-playoff team or borderline playoff team on the 2nd night of a b2b fellas. What'd you expect?

KD now averaging 32/8/3.5 +2.7 stl 1.5 blk and 2.0 TO's on 60/42/90 in 35 minutes of action. PER of 34 and TS of 70%. Seems to be settling in alright.

Chronz
11-04-2016, 01:21 AM
Well they're playing a non-playoff team or borderline playoff team on the 2nd night of a b2b fellas. What'd you expect?

KD now averaging 32/8/3.5 +2.7 stl 1.5 blk and 2.0 TO's on 60/42/90 in 35 minutes of action. PER of 34 and TS of 70%. Seems to be settling in alright.

I was honestly just hoping for more than a single competitive quarter of basketball. Stats are crazy for KD, curious to see where Steph ends up stats wise.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 01:31 AM
I was honestly just hoping for more than a single competitive quarter of basketball. Stats are crazy for KD, curious to see where Steph ends up stats wise.

Watching Russy hunched over his knees in the 4th quarter against you guys, I was worried this might happen tonight (wanted a meaningful 4th quarter). Curry I'd guess something like 27/5/5 on an otherwordly TS% again. KD's going to be the leading scorer on the season because he can get easier looks/buckets. For Curry he really has to consciously take over the game (like he did in the 3rd last game V Portland... but he ended it so he sat the 4th like he did tonight) to rack up the mega points. Otherwise he'll just get the easy 20-25.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 01:47 AM
OKC actually had the NBA's top-rated D coming into tonight. Sort of an Iverson on the Sixers situation brewing.

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 01:59 AM
**** KD in OKC I wanted him BOS so the first game of the double header could have been epic! lol

And IDK, I'll be interested for a bit. I'll give it a year. After that, it'll be wake me up if/when they're facing elimination or playing the Celtics.

LMAO- boston gets kg, ray allen, al horford just in the last 10 yrs- its only fair warriors get one star level free agent every 40 yrs or so

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 02:02 AM
Warriors fans trying to convince people this is exciting for neutral fans when it's even boring their head coach to sleep lol

the espn ratings for this game and the general anticipation through out the country would suggest otherwise.....

lol, please
11-04-2016, 05:25 AM
OKC actually had the NBA's top-rated D coming into tonight. Sort of an Iverson on the Sixers situation brewing.

Very interesting. They will be a team to watch.

Scoots
11-04-2016, 07:28 AM
I think the average person finds most NBA games boring and are just waiting for a highlight play. The Warriors provide more highlight plays than the average team so they'll keep people's attention, just like they have the last 2 years.

I'm an NBA fan so I like watching any game to some extent, but blowouts are always only fun for fans of the winning team, and it's not like every Warriors game has been a blowout in their favor. The Warriors were blown out once and had 2 close games before the last 2. Now if the rest of the season involves 30 point leads by half time then people will still be tuning in for the spectacle of it all, but that won't happen.

Heediot
11-04-2016, 08:28 AM
Oladipo got his money and security. If i were the Thunder I would put him off the bench and start Abrines, I don;t think Olapdipo would complain now with his new deal. Starting lineup needs more 3 point shooters and the Bench needs scoring badly. I would of started Ilyasova if he were still with them instead of Sabonis (whom I really like) for spacing. I guess Donovan prefers defense over range.

nycericanguy
11-04-2016, 09:25 AM
KD looked like such a ***** running up and down with the team that beat him last year and leaving Westbrook out there alone.

And Dray constantly acting all pumped up as if GSW isn't supposed to win every game looks silly too.

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 10:02 AM
KD looked like such a ***** running up and down with the team that beat him last year and leaving Westbrook out there alone.

And Dray constantly acting all pumped up as if GSW isn't supposed to win every game looks silly too.

dude- your just a hater.... whatever kd did, youd be hating on him. if westbrook had a great game and thunder won- youd be calling out kd. durant basically owns westbrook all night and your calling him out.

It looks like durant picked the right team (if winning is something that interests him). Westbrook wasnt alone- LOL he had 2 100 million dollar contract players along side him and sabonis who I think is going to be a quality player. shewwwt, that team has westbrook at 4-1 same as the warriors last time i checked.

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 10:03 AM
This is boring as ****.

how could you think that was boring? the anticipation on that game was bigger than the world series and that was better ratings than any game on espn this year despite going until 1 40 am on the east coast

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 10:16 AM
LMAO- boston gets kg, ray allen, al horford just in the last 10 yrs- its only fair warriors get one star level free agent every 40 yrs or so

No one cares that they got a star FA. If they didn't have Curry and Durant singed on to lead Green/Klay with Bogut still there than trust me - PEOPLE WOULD LOVE IT. There's be some talk about his relationship with Westy and not texting him but people would be thrilled to see him form what would look like a terrific team. People just don't like that one team is so much better than everyone else. It makes for the league not being exciting to anyone but GS fans. No one cares that they signed a FA lol

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 10:19 AM
No one cares that they got a star FA. If they didn't have Curry and Durant singed on to lead Green/Klay with Bogut still there than trust me - PEOPLE WOULD LOVE IT. There's be some talk about his relationship with Westy and not texting him but people would be thrilled to see him form what would look like a terrific team. People just don't like that one team is so much better than everyone else. It makes for the league not being exciting to anyone but GS fans. No one cares that they signed a FA lol

dude, they arent so much better than everyone else. pelicans were neck and neck with the warriors and they are basically tanking the season so far. also spurs destroyed the warriors in oakland. warriors have the same record as the thunder who just lost a top 3 player in the nba....

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 10:20 AM
I think the average person finds most NBA games boring and are just waiting for a highlight play. The Warriors provide more highlight plays than the average team so they'll keep people's attention, just like they have the last 2 years.

I'm an NBA fan so I like watching any game to some extent, but blowouts are always only fun for fans of the winning team, and it's not like every Warriors game has been a blowout in their favor. The Warriors were blown out once and had 2 close games before the last 2. Now if the rest of the season involves 30 point leads by half time then people will still be tuning in for the spectacle of it all, but that won't happen.

Well then your team will have drastically under-achieved. Only CLE and SA should be able to stay within 20 points of you guys in a game. If another team does, your team played flat out terrible that night relative to their talent.

I feel like you're just trying to convince yourself and others that that isn't the case because you want people to actually care about your team being great and have discussion on it rather than everyone just acknowledging it but having only limited interest after the novelty wears off.

R!kSm!tz
11-04-2016, 10:23 AM
This game should've been in OKC. Terrible decision by the NBA.

nycericanguy
11-04-2016, 10:25 AM
dude- your just a hater.... whatever kd did, youd be hating on him. if westbrook had a great game and thunder won- youd be calling out kd. durant basically owns westbrook all night and your calling him out.

It looks like durant picked the right team (if winning is something that interests him). Westbrook wasnt alone- LOL he had 2 100 million dollar contract players along side him and sabonis who I think is going to be a quality player. shewwwt, that team has westbrook at 4-1 same as the warriors last time i checked.

it was the *****iest move i've ever seen and he looked like a ***** and a traitor. you're probably a warrirors fan, if so, I get it, you're going to defend your team. but the rest of the NBA fans see it for what it is, heck I'm sure even alot of GSW deep down know it was a ***** move and have lost some respect for KD.

Miltstar
11-04-2016, 10:37 AM
I feel like Golden State is only a shell of the team we will see by seasons end, they are missing Bogut and Speights right now. I'm sure they will find someone that clicks at the 5 and they will truly be unstoppable

tp13baby
11-04-2016, 10:48 AM
I feel like Golden State is only a shell of the team we will see by seasons end, they are missing Bogut and Speights right now. I'm sure they will find someone that clicks at the 5 and they will truly be unstoppable

With what money?

Vee-Rex
11-04-2016, 10:49 AM
I feel like Golden State is only a shell of the team we will see by seasons end, they are missing Bogut and Speights right now. I'm sure they will find someone that clicks at the 5 and they will truly be unstoppable

Fair point but I feel like if there's one team that could beat them it would be the Raptors.

Raps in 4

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 11:03 AM
With what money?

I think he meant someone currently on the roster.... not that there are big name signings going on in mid season anyway

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 11:05 AM
This game should've been in OKC. Terrible decision by the NBA.

LMAO what???

there will be a couple games in okc also

Scoots
11-04-2016, 11:20 AM
Well then your team will have drastically under-achieved. Only CLE and SA should be able to stay within 20 points of you guys in a game. If another team does, your team played flat out terrible that night relative to their talent.

I feel like you're just trying to convince yourself and others that that isn't the case because you want people to actually care about your team being great and have discussion on it rather than everyone just acknowledging it but having only limited interest after the novelty wears off.

Just to clarify, you are saying that if the Warriors are not leading by 30 points at half against all teams except CLE and SA then they are not just under-performing, but DRASTICALLY under-performing? They are not the dream team against Ethiopia on a nightly basis.

I couldn't give two Fs about what other people think about the Warriors. Yes, they should be favored, but I think people are over-stating them too, and I've been saying the same thing since last year when it turned out they were over-rated.

I just feel that the average NBA watcher will want to watch the spectacle.

Scoots
11-04-2016, 11:22 AM
it was the *****iest move i've ever seen and he looked like a ***** and a traitor. you're probably a warrirors fan, if so, I get it, you're going to defend your team. but the rest of the NBA fans see it for what it is, heck I'm sure even alot of GSW deep down know it was a ***** move and have lost some respect for KD.

There have been FAR worse moves in sports history, but I understand that you just haven't seen them.

R!kSm!tz
11-04-2016, 11:33 AM
LMAO what???

there will be a couple games in okc also

Why would you not have KDs first game against OKC in OKC? They got it right with Rose and Noah making their return tonight and Wade making his return Thursday.

tp13baby
11-04-2016, 11:33 AM
I think he meant someone currently on the roster.... not that there are big name signings going on in mid season anyway

I was implying there isn't a decent 5 on that team. Its a huge dropoff.

R!kSm!tz
11-04-2016, 11:36 AM
KD is without a doubt the Warriors best player though I will say that. I'll be surprised if he doesn't win MVP.

Vee-Rex
11-04-2016, 11:55 AM
KD is without a doubt the Warriors best player though I will say that. I'll be surprised if he doesn't win MVP.

I think the argument could be made that KD is the better overall player, particularly because of his defensive abilities.

But, despite the numbers so far, I still maintain Steph is the superior scorer and superior offensive player.

R!kSm!tz
11-04-2016, 12:09 PM
I think the argument could be made that KD is the better overall player, particularly because of his defensive abilities.

But, despite the numbers so far, I still maintain Steph is the superior scorer and superior offensive player.

Maybe but we haven't seen it so far this year. KD has been the better scorer, rebounder, defender, and I haven't looked at any numbers but probably better playmaker so far too.

Scoots
11-04-2016, 12:29 PM
Why would you not have KDs first game against OKC in OKC? They got it right with Rose and Noah making their return tonight and Wade making his return Thursday.

Probably simply that making the schedule is INCREDIBLY complicated and has been made more difficult with the recent changes about back to backs and limiting travel and games per week. They probably just focused on getting the Warriors and Thunder together early and stopped there. The schedule always has issues, but not everything can be accommodated. Just last year the Warriors played the Spurs 3 times in the last few weeks of the season which was a heck of a let down, and the Warriors traveled something like twice as many miles as the Cavs (they just happened to be first and last in miles traveled).

Scoots
11-04-2016, 12:31 PM
I think Steph is more explosive but KD is more consistent. Frankly it's a nice problem to have to not know the ranking of 2 players on your team in the top 5 players in the game. The regular season will work itself out, the question is will KD and the rest of the band-aid roster make the playoffs come out different?

Giannis94
11-04-2016, 12:32 PM
Thon Maker on pace to average 300 per 36. Would be highest of all time assuming he continues at this pace- which I think is possible.

hugepatsfan
11-04-2016, 01:29 PM
Just to clarify, you are saying that if the Warriors are not leading by 30 points at half against all teams except CLE and SA then they are not just under-performing, but DRASTICALLY under-performing? They are not the dream team against Ethiopia on a nightly basis.

I couldn't give two Fs about what other people think about the Warriors. Yes, they should be favored, but I think people are over-stating them too, and I've been saying the same thing since last year when it turned out they were over-rated.

I just feel that the average NBA watcher will want to watch the spectacle.

30 is probably too high but they should be winning by 20 or so points pretty much every night. That's absolutely true. There will definitely be some adjusting period where teams stay relatively close but once they get into 2017 and start really figuring things out they should blow the doors off of everyone. They're that much more talented than everyone else. If they're consistently playing close games then they are drastically underperforming.

cmellofan15
11-04-2016, 01:36 PM
I love that the warriors are now the "villains" of the nba because they embrace it way more than lebron and the heat did when they all came together. the heat cared a lot more about the opinions of the media, fans, etc. than this warriors team that couldn't care less. I'm hopeful that we'll get more physical games like the one against the Suns because of it.

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 01:46 PM
30 is probably too high but they should be winning by 20 or so points pretty much every night. That's absolutely true. There will definitely be some adjusting period where teams stay relatively close but once they get into 2017 and start really figuring things out they should blow the doors off of everyone. They're that much more talented than everyone else. If they're consistently playing close games then they are drastically underperforming.

as a warriors fan, I agree with this.


the issue with the warriors over the last few yrs has never been their talent level. its just consistent effort from game to game and even from quarter to quarter within a game. A huge percentage of the warriors 9 losses last year came in games where they were heavily favored. I might be old school- but I think winning the games your suppose to win is a reasonable expectation.

And in the playoffs the warriors were in back to back series with 3-1 come backs, and the warriors were on both ends of it. that's another sign of lack of consistency. also- in the finals ever game seemed to be a 20 point swing one way or the other- sometimes warriors try to win without putting effort forward, and a lot of times they find a way to do it.

talent is not the problem with them- its usually effort. and it isn't like they have to give 100% all the time but a reasonable floor level would be nice

cmellofan15
11-04-2016, 02:12 PM
Thon Maker on pace to average 300 per 36. Would be highest of all time assuming he continues at this pace- which I think is possible.

1. that stat isn't even remotely close to being true
2. troll elsewhere or learn the difference between an Offensive Rating and Points Per 36 Minutes.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 02:28 PM
I love that the warriors are now the "villains" of the nba because they embrace it way more than lebron and the heat did when they all came together. the heat cared a lot more about the opinions of the media, fans, etc. than this warriors team that couldn't care less. I'm hopeful that we'll get more physical games like the one against the Suns because of it.

The truth is that they're the villains because they're the favorites (many fans now say they don't blame the Warriors for the KD signing, only him, but the truth is that they want nothing more than the Warriors faillure... and that's how it should be). The fact that they lost to Cleveland only makes it easier for many fans to pour on the hate and disguise it under their distaste for "cockiness", etc. COCKINESS, mind you. What a rare occurrence in the NBA huh? Haha... I'm thinking back to the "We Believe" Warriors; Stephen Jackson, Harrington, B Diddy, J Rich, etc. That team was nothing but cocky DICKS hahah. But guess what? They were over-achievers and everybody could not get enough of them. If you suck or are over-achieving, you can be cocky. But when you're great, you either have to be quiet (Spurs) or simply never lose a game (and even then many fans will still feign hate for you but respect you). The Warriors embrace it and haven't changed their ways (Klay is still quiet as hell, Curry is still 99% respectful but still has fun on the court, Draymond is still the loudmouth, etc etc down the line).

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 02:43 PM
1. that stat isn't even remotely close to being true
2. troll elsewhere or learn the difference between an Offensive Rating and Points Per 36 Minutes.

personally, I didn't think the post was worth a reply

Chronz
11-04-2016, 02:43 PM
The truth is that they're the villains because they're the favorites (many fans now say they don't blame the Warriors for the KD signing, only him, but the truth is that they want nothing more than the Warriors faillure... and that's how it should be). The fact that they lost to Cleveland only makes it easier for many fans to pour on the hate and disguise it under their distaste for "cockiness", etc. COCKINESS, mind you. What a rare occurrence in the NBA huh? Haha... I'm thinking back to the "We Believe" Warriors; Stephen Jackson, Harrington, B Diddy, J Rich, etc. That team was nothing but cocky DICKS hahah. But guess what? They were over-achievers and everybody could not get enough of them. If you suck or are over-achieving, you can be cocky. But when you're great, you either have to be quiet (Spurs) or simply never lose a game (and even then many fans will still feign hate for you but respect you). The Warriors embrace it and haven't changed their ways (Klay is still quiet as hell, Curry is still 99% respectful but still has fun on the court, Draymond is still the loudmouth, etc etc down the line).

Very true. Here's what my friend said When i tried to explain how utterly unfair this all is.

"Im torn
Like KD. And I've loved these Warriors since they joined the league
How the **** did my underdog team in the bay turn into the hated juggernaut"

Dude hates bron and loves la

Says Milwaukee Will be his new team

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 02:45 PM
The truth is that they're the villains because they're the favorites (many fans now say they don't blame the Warriors for the KD signing, only him, but the truth is that they want nothing more than the Warriors faillure... and that's how it should be). The fact that they lost to Cleveland only makes it easier for many fans to pour on the hate and disguise it under their distaste for "cockiness", etc. COCKINESS, mind you. What a rare occurrence in the NBA huh? Haha... I'm thinking back to the "We Believe" Warriors; Stephen Jackson, Harrington, B Diddy, J Rich, etc. That team was nothing but cocky DICKS hahah. But guess what? They were over-achievers and everybody could not get enough of them. If you suck or are over-achieving, you can be cocky. But when you're great, you either have to be quiet (Spurs) or simply never lose a game (and even then many fans will still feign hate for you but respect you). The Warriors embrace it and haven't changed their ways (Klay is still quiet as hell, Curry is still 99% respectful but still has fun on the court, Draymond is still the loudmouth, etc etc down the line).

I don't remember the mid 90s bulls being hated with this kind of passion and they were more dominant than the warriors are now.

tredigs
11-04-2016, 03:12 PM
I don't remember the mid 90s bulls being hated with this kind of passion and they were more dominant than the warriors are now.

They never lost (well, after they lost a lot) and MJ was the most marketable/popular player in history. Plus, the internet wasn't in full force for Dennis Rodman or MJ's innumerable/endless seedy ways. They'd have received much more hate now a days, but still have been extremely popular as they didn't lose.

Vee-Rex
11-04-2016, 03:53 PM
Honestly I think if Draymond never played for the Warriors then that team would be liked much more than it is now.

Winning puts a team in the spotlight and everyone else wants to bring down the team on top.

HOWEVER, having a player that does and says the things that Draymond has done and said make it all even worse.

Then, when said fans of that organization bend over backwards to defend and excuse the actions of a player, it makes it all even worse.

In summary: The Warriors were gonna attract haters just for winning and being in the spotlight, but part of the reason its even as bad as it is now is because of Draymond Green, their own showboating, and the denial of their fans.

That's just how it works.

Scoots
11-04-2016, 04:42 PM
30 is probably too high but they should be winning by 20 or so points pretty much every night. That's absolutely true. There will definitely be some adjusting period where teams stay relatively close but once they get into 2017 and start really figuring things out they should blow the doors off of everyone. They're that much more talented than everyone else. If they're consistently playing close games then they are drastically underperforming.

You said 30 at the half or essentially on a pace to win by 60 ... now you are saying 20 is enough ... is that still by the half?

Chronz
11-04-2016, 05:20 PM
You said 30 at the half or essentially on a pace to win by 60 ... now you are saying 20 is enough ... is that still by the half?
I took it to mean the game after his last post

Scoots
11-04-2016, 08:54 PM
I took it to mean the game after his last post

Me too, I just wanted to make it clear the absurdity of saying that ANY team not winning games by 60 being said to "have drastically under-achieved".

Hyperbole is common in sports, but that is way way out there. :)

jason
11-04-2016, 09:17 PM
Honestly I think if Draymond never played for the Warriors then that team would be liked much more than it is now.

Winning puts a team in the spotlight and everyone else wants to bring down the team on top.

HOWEVER, having a player that does and says the things that Draymond has done and said make it all even worse.

Then, when said fans of that organization bend over backwards to defend and excuse the actions of a player, it makes it all even worse.

In summary: The Warriors were gonna attract haters just for winning and being in the spotlight, but part of the reason its even as bad as it is now is because of Draymond Green, their own showboating, and the denial of their fans.

That's just how it works.

There's plenty of hate out there for Curry too

likemystylez
11-04-2016, 10:26 PM
There's plenty of hate out there for Curry too

his jersey has been the highest selling jersey the last 2 yrs

tredigs
11-04-2016, 10:29 PM
his jersey has been the highest selling jersey the last 2 yrs

So was Bron's and Kobe's when they were the most hated. Most popular is also most hated. The Warriors are the most popular team to watch currently, and also now the most hated team in the NBA. That's par for the course.