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hotdalton18
10-04-2016, 10:32 AM
Just figured we could have a post for all the preseason games

hotdalton18
10-04-2016, 10:33 AM
Game 1 is tonight and I'm excited!

SteBO
10-04-2016, 11:23 AM
Just want to see Winslow and TJ, and eventually J-Rich. That's essentially what this year is all about to me.....progressing.

hotdalton18
10-04-2016, 12:13 PM
Just want to see Winslow and TJ, and eventually J-Rich. That's essentially what this year is all about to me.....progressing.

Yeah, Hopefully Winslow takes off this year

Also will be interesting to see how Whiteside handles being the star of the team now

archdevil84
10-04-2016, 04:17 PM
Yeah, Hopefully Winslow takes off this year

Also will be interesting to see how Whiteside handles being the star of the team now

i think he needs to realize at this point he's not the clear star of the team. We have 4 players that form a star core but none of them is head and shoulders above the others.

Dade County
10-04-2016, 04:30 PM
Just want to see Winslow and TJ, and eventually J-Rich. That's essentially what this year is all about to me.....progressing.

Yes,

I wish Jrich was healthy and playing tonight.


It's not going to bother me if Winslow missies a couple of shots, just trying to see how he has grown a little bit. I want to see spacing and nice ball movement; even if they end up missing some shots.

Slug3
10-04-2016, 05:28 PM
I actually think Waiters will have a good year for us. Not no 25 PPG year. But I think he can get in the 15-18 PPG range.

hotdalton18
10-04-2016, 06:20 PM
Yeah, Hopefully Winslow takes off this year

Also will be interesting to see how Whiteside handles being the star of the team now

i think he needs to realize at this point he's not the clear star of the team. We have 4 players that form a star core but none of them is head and shoulders above the others.

I think you need to realize until someone proves different or steps up he's the star of this team and the guy who will be credited for win and blamed for losses by the media

hotdalton18
10-04-2016, 06:20 PM
I actually think Waiters will have a good year for us. Not no 25 PPG year. But I think he can get in the 15-18 PPG range.

15ppg is my expectation in a 6th man role kinda like Jamal Crawford

hotdalton18
10-04-2016, 06:25 PM
Dragic/TJ/Winslow/Babbit/Whiteside the starters just as I predicted in the roster thread

I Expect this to be the line up until J Rich is healthy

Then he will be the SF while Winslow prolly moves to starting PF

Dade County
10-04-2016, 07:16 PM
Winslow to Whiteside for first score!

Winslow with a jumper & layup.

Dragic attacking.

Dade County
10-04-2016, 07:26 PM
First unit against theirs so far... 23-16. HEAT doing well.

Dade County
10-04-2016, 07:35 PM
HEAT35- Wiz22

Nice attacking & feeding Whiteside.

I'm going to enjoy the growth of are young guys this season upcoming season.

All-In
10-04-2016, 09:49 PM
It stinks theres no JRich for a bit but regardless, this team will be fun to watch, Whiteside, Winslow and Dragic are our new Big 3 and hopefully Luke Babbit can continue his success he had at the end of last season

I've been pretty amped up about this season for a while now because I think we can compete for a playoff spot even without Wade/Bosh......Im so happy Heat basketball is back

hotdalton18
10-05-2016, 04:51 AM
Starters looked great together

Winslow and Whiteside very impressive

hotdalton18
10-05-2016, 05:52 AM
Babbit is gonna be so awesome for this team....One of the leagues best shooters and finally found a team that might take advantage

If Babbit Keeps it up J Rich might be a big time bench player lol

Which wouldn't be bad because right now the bench is weak

Weber/Waiters/J Rich/Williams/Reed

Isn't a bad bench

All-In
10-05-2016, 03:07 PM
Babbit is gonna be so awesome for this team....One of the leagues best shooters and finally found a team that might take advantage

If Babbit Keeps it up J Rich might be a big time bench player lol

Which wouldn't be bad because right now the bench is weak

Weber/Waiters/J Rich/Williams/Reed

Isn't a bad bench

I know its just one preseason game but Waiters looked nice, especially on the Pick-and-Roll with Whiteside, Waiters was for sure in a giving mood making nice drop off passes to Whiteside, Waiters could be the lead ball-handler off the bench

Yea, James Johnson and Derrick Williams kind of scare me defensively, they're not sound defenders.....but I like our bench guards, Weber, Waiters and Ellington are fine but our bench forwards need some improvement

hotdalton18
10-06-2016, 10:35 AM
Babbit is gonna be so awesome for this team....One of the leagues best shooters and finally found a team that might take advantage

If Babbit Keeps it up J Rich might be a big time bench player lol

Which wouldn't be bad because right now the bench is weak

Weber/Waiters/J Rich/Williams/Reed

Isn't a bad bench

I know its just one preseason game but Waiters looked nice, especially on the Pick-and-Roll with Whiteside, Waiters was for sure in a giving mood making nice drop off passes to Whiteside, Waiters could be the lead ball-handler off the bench

Yea, James Johnson and Derrick Williams kind of scare me defensively, they're not sound defenders.....but I like our bench guards, Weber, Waiters and Ellington are fine but our bench forwards need some improvement


JJ won't be playing when J Rich comes back

But Williams is prolly here to stay unless you want to see more mcbob which I don't

Mr. Baller
10-07-2016, 10:13 AM
I know its just one preseason game but Waiters looked nice, especially on the Pick-and-Roll with Whiteside, Waiters was for sure in a giving mood making nice drop off passes to Whiteside, Waiters could be the lead ball-handler off the bench

Yea, James Johnson and Derrick Williams kind of scare me defensively, they're not sound defenders.....but I like our bench guards, Weber, Waiters and Ellington are fine but our bench forwards need some improvement

Uhh James Johnson is known for his defense

All-In
10-07-2016, 08:41 PM
Uhh James Johnson is known for his defense

Uhh James Johnson is known for his crazy....not his defense.....there are reasons why he cant stay on the same team for more than a year or 2....he might be solid at steals, blocks, and one-on-one defense, but as a sound team defender? I havent seen it

hotdalton18
10-08-2016, 05:26 PM
Was anybody else excited about Whiteside hitting long jumpers in the first game ?

He could really be special if that shot stays

hotdalton18
10-08-2016, 08:52 PM
Whiteside gonna **** around and be an MVP candidate this year lol

All-In
10-08-2016, 09:54 PM
Whiteside gonna **** around and be an MVP candidate this year lol

Dalton, relax lol

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he averages 20pts 12rebs 4blocks per game, sure, hes going to get major opportunities because of no Bosh/Wade AND because hes going to be setting screen-and-rolls for every ball-handler we have

Bottom line for me is, no matter what, hes going to have a good year

All-In
10-08-2016, 09:57 PM
Uhh James Johnson is known for his defense

Even though Im not a huge fan of James Johnson's team defense, hes a MUCH better overall defender than Babbitt

Match-ups might dictate who starts at PF

hotdalton18
10-09-2016, 12:41 AM
Uhh James Johnson is known for his defense

Even though Im not a huge fan of James Johnson's team defense, hes a MUCH better overall defender than Babbitt

Match-ups might dictate who starts at PF


Babbitt is easily the best shooter on this team and we're in desperate need of that with the starting line up

All-In
10-09-2016, 09:12 PM
Babbitt is easily the best shooter on this team and we're in desperate need of that with the starting line up

Well, we were playing against KAT at PF so I think Spo is going to go with the better defender in that scenario, this team is chalk filled with specialists, so idk if Spo is going to lock in one guy at PF, Babbitt will get a bunch of starts but Williams will get some starts and Johnson will get some starts too.....If Williams can become a consistent 3pt shooter, he might be starter by seasons end

Dade County
10-11-2016, 07:59 PM
Whiteside in 9 min...

11pts, 5reb, 1stl, 1blk

beasted86
10-11-2016, 08:31 PM
Winslow looks like garbage so far tonight

beasted86
10-11-2016, 08:33 PM
Without Bosh, everything is all on Dragić and Whiteside. Without them in the game we're a D-League roster.

lavilevi23
10-11-2016, 09:50 PM
A mid season trade is bound to happen.
I bet Riley would look to pair McRoberts with one of our young guys along with another solid vet to try to get a star player.

Dade County
10-11-2016, 10:58 PM
A mid season trade is bound to happen.
I bet Riley would look to pair McRoberts with one of our young guys along with another solid vet to try to get a star player.

The Way that this rister is shaped, I already think a deal is agreed upon & they are just waiting on the date when newly sign free agents can be traded. So in December.

Dade County
10-11-2016, 11:00 PM
Without Bosh, everything is all on Dragić and Whiteside. Without them in the game we're a D-League roster.

Yeah this is so ture...

Winslow needs to undstand he has total freedom. He can take this entire season to explore his game; he needs to be aggressive.

naps
10-12-2016, 04:15 PM
Winslow's scoring ability is so raw. He will be a terrific defender but I fear his offensive game will never come along enoung to make him an allstar caliber player. I just hope he doesnt become a defensive specialist role player.

lavilevi23
10-12-2016, 10:29 PM
We could be targeting a trade with the Nugget for K.Faried. They are rumored to be trying to move him.

king james
10-12-2016, 11:01 PM
I like Faried, but he's not a difference maker to me. He's not a winner in my book. He will put up some stats but I just don't think u can win with him. He reminds me of a Rudy Gay, Chris Paul type of player. Guys that just can't win.

beasted86
10-13-2016, 06:10 AM
I like Faried, but he's not a difference maker to me. He's not a winner in my book. He will put up some stats but I just don't think u can win with him. He reminds me of a Rudy Gay, Chris Paul type of player. Guys that just can't win.

I don't think that's a fair statement. It's not like he's a #1 or #2 option or that Denver has had good, healthy rosters that should be winning.

Faried is a good complimentary player, maybe #3 option, who's on a reasonable contract. That's it. I'd welcome a trade (depending on what we give up) since he's still youngish, turning 27 this year. He fits uptempo also. My concern is more his shooting, not related to whether he would lead us to the playoffs.

hotdalton18
10-13-2016, 09:26 PM
We may surprise this year and make the playoffs

I honestly think Whiteside will be the BEST center in the league this year

And it looks like we could be getting that Phx Dragic

The young guys just need to play D and hit open buckets


I do and don't like how Winslow looks so far

Love how his defense/Rebounding and assist look

His offense still looks like hit poop

All-In
10-13-2016, 11:38 PM
I don't think that's a fair statement. It's not like he's a #1 or #2 option or that Denver has had good, healthy rosters that should be winning.

Faried is a good complimentary player, maybe #3 option, who's on a reasonable contract. That's it. I'd welcome a trade (depending on what we give up) since he's still youngish, turning 27 this year. He fits uptempo also. My concern is more his shooting, not related to whether he would lead us to the playoffs.

Yea, since he cant shoot and really is a suspect defender, I was really never interested in him

We really need to fill the Deng role, a versatile swing forward who can shoot, pass, dribble and defend...problem is that its not so easy to come by, the upcoming draft is weak when it comes to multi-positional forwards and theres slim pickings come free agency too

Thats why theres so much pressure on Winslow to develop an offensive game......I think he needs to relax more, he seems really tense like hes trying too hard, I think he understands whats at stake and puts pressure on himself but he really needs to calm down, he doesn't have to be amazing right away, as long as he continually develops over the course of the next few years, by the time hes 23, we may have one of the best swing-forwards in the league

SteBO
10-14-2016, 07:45 AM
I feel like Winslow has good offensive instincts, just not the skill. It's gonna take some time for Winslow to come into his own on that end.

hotdalton18
10-15-2016, 01:43 AM
Winslow went off on both ends tonight

And TJ has special talent just needs to get shots which is hard cause we have a lot of shot takers

king james
10-15-2016, 11:16 PM
I understand what ur saying beasted, but that's just the way I see him. I don't think for how much he gets paid that he brings enough to the table. He's doesn't change the game enough for me to take him on this team. We can agree to disagree on that.

king james
10-19-2016, 03:40 AM
Willie Reed has been looking real good out there.

lavilevi23
10-19-2016, 04:25 PM
I honestly think we look like a playoff team

king james
10-19-2016, 04:49 PM
Yeah I think we can be one as well. Don't know if that's what Pat wants but they look like a team that can attack from all over.

king james
10-19-2016, 04:53 PM
If Reed looks half as good as he's been we are going to be hard to handle down low.

lavilevi23
10-19-2016, 04:55 PM
Winslows development is the biggest key to s successful season imo

All-In
10-19-2016, 10:17 PM
Willie Reed has been looking real good out there.

Willie Reed is turning into a top notch backup center, fierce energy, tough defense, rebounds like crazy, decent rim running skills and solid post moves.......His energy will be huge come the dog days of an NBA schedule, especially road games

All-In
10-19-2016, 10:38 PM
Winslows development is the biggest key to s successful season imo

Yea, hopefully our preseason success translates into the regular season because so far so good, cutting down the roster is going to be a challenge for sure

I think Dragic has the chance to reassert himself as one of the leagues best PG's.......Waiters has been great, he does have his mental lapses on defense and poor decision making on offense at times, but overall so far this preseason Im impressed, good ball-handler, good pick-and-roll skills, solid 3pt shooter, and his defense has been a nice surprise, he defended Jeff Green mostly the other night and did a hell of a job, Waiters will be playing a lot of 3 this year and I think he can handle it.......Tyler Johnson has been coming on lately, James Johnson/Derrick Williams have been fitting in nicely as small-ball 4's and Wayne Ellington is a microwave shooter

Winslow's development will definitely be key, but he doesn't have to be amazing on offense just yet, steady improvement is really all thats necessary, like what he did versus the Spurs was great, he was aggressive, confident, and everything flowed within the offense, building off that performance could dictate how good we are this year

Im really looking forward to watching us play this season

justinnum1
10-20-2016, 12:15 PM
we have looked impressive in preseason. not used to seeing this effort... we are 4th in net rating and 4th in off eff in preseason. we will have a better record than the bulls.

naps
10-20-2016, 06:51 PM
I honestly think we look like a playoff team

May be we will be a playoff team but I stopped reading anything from preseason games. They mean absolutely nothing when it comes to indication of real games.

king james
10-21-2016, 02:20 AM
True. I just like how we are playing as a team. They seem to be in a good flow with one another.

LayZbone
10-22-2016, 10:18 AM
I can't decide, based on their skill-sets, who should be the starting power forward. I really like what I see from J.Johnson, but from what I've read, he can be "on and off" like Gerald green. Probably better suited for the bench. Babbitt's jumper is wet...he should definitely be part of the rotation. McRoberts is supposed to bring that , but where the hell does he fit into the rotation? Starting PF? Backup C (pushing Reed further down the bench)? Warming he bench himself? The guy drives me crazy with his injuries..because his skill set fits great with this squad. Maybe Derick Williams? What do you guys think?

beasted86
10-25-2016, 06:46 PM
I understand what ur saying beasted, but that's just the way I see him. I don't think for how much he gets paid that he brings enough to the table. He's doesn't change the game enough for me to take him on this team. We can agree to disagree on that.

He makes $13M for the next 3 years.

I think more than just plain impact, were disagreeing on how much impact a player making that amount should have.

Keep in mind what contracts were dished out this past summer.

Mr. Baller
10-26-2016, 09:09 PM
Up 11 after 3. Shooting has been off but the ball movement has been good and the defense has been very impressive. Need Dragic to stay out of foul trouble and give us a big 4th, especially with Hassan resting to start the quarter

Dade County
10-26-2016, 10:09 PM
Up 11 after 3. Shooting has been off but the ball movement has been good and the defense has been very impressive. Need Dragic to stay out of foul trouble and give us a big 4th, especially with Hassan resting to start the quarter

Not Dragic fault, the reffs were crazy in the 1st half.

SteBO
10-27-2016, 08:39 AM
TJ really got things going for us....then James Johnson and Willie Reed followed suit. Common theme: they're all coming off our bench.

Good win on the road to start the season. Charlotte next. Will start a regular season thread soon.....

hotdalton18
10-27-2016, 10:08 AM
Whiteside with a great game to start the year

And how about Tyler Johnson !

archdevil84
10-27-2016, 11:40 AM
TJ looking great in his first game, im telling you guys, this man has potential

Mr. Baller
10-27-2016, 12:30 PM
TJ looking great in his first game, im telling you guys, this man has potential

Nobody is doubting his potential. The question with TJ is will he be worth 19M a year in 2 years?

naps
10-27-2016, 05:28 PM
Most impressive things from the first game were Winslow's ball handling, James Johnson's smart plays at both ends, and Willie Reed. I was actually most impressed with Willie Reed. I remember I was upset when we didnt keep him last year. He has that Whiteside thing in him and can actually turn out to be a great back up to Whiteside if Spo doesn't kill his confidence by giving his minutes to MacTrash. I still remember being extremely excited about MacTrash back when he was MacRoberts and we got him here. But man I cant tell how much I hate seeing him on the floor. Dude is a wanna be Magic Johnson and passes up wide-****ing-open jumpers something he was known for back in Charlotte. I just hope Willie Reed doesnt get screwed by Spo.

beasted86
10-27-2016, 08:18 PM
Most impressive things from the first game were Winslow's ball handling, James Johnson's smart plays at both ends, and Willie Reed. I was actually most impressed with Willie Reed. I remember I was upset when we didnt keep him last year. He has that Whiteside thing in him and can actually turn out to be a great back up to Whiteside if Spo doesn't kill his confidence by giving his minutes to MacTrash. I still remember being extremely excited about MacTrash back when he was MacRoberts and we got him here. But man I cant tell how much I hate seeing him on the floor. Dude is a wanna be Magic Johnson and passes up wide-****ing-open jumpers something he was known for back in Charlotte. I just hope Willie Reed doesnt get screwed by Spo.

I agree. McRoberts is like a poor man's version of Boris Diaw, who was only a basic level role player at his peak.

They really just need to cut ties at this point in attempting to play him. Definitely do not force him into the rotation. He's only the 14th or 15th man or to be used as a filler contract for a trade. That's his only usefulness right now.

lavilevi23
10-27-2016, 11:30 PM
**** even Marc Blount contributed more to this organization than McTrash

naps
10-28-2016, 03:45 AM
The scary thing is he was taken off the Heat injury list yesterday, where he has belonged about 97% of 3 years he has been here. That means he is available now and knowing Spo I have a feeling he will be seeing the floor soon, if not the next game.

AllBall
10-28-2016, 07:43 AM
Can we get a regular season game thread up?