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Giannis94
10-01-2016, 10:58 AM
Given that none of us actually know the medica's lets set the hypotethitical at:

*bosh has received medican clearance from 15/30 teams in the NBA. He decides that he wants to play for your respective team on a reduced contract (somewhere between vet min and MLE).

Also, Chris wants a fair chance to earn playing time and will listen to doctors on any parameters/playing time restrcitions as long as the signing team makes a good faith effort to get him back to 30-32 minutes per game.

Assume that organizational reputation is that of the Spurs and the medical staff is also "elite/top" in the game- and that additional medical staff will be at all games".

Question is- Are you willing to sign Chris- or is the risk of a serious injury and or death- too much to take on?

ewing
10-01-2016, 11:41 AM
I would want someone to sign him but I don't think I'd risk him dying on my court


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Giannis94
10-01-2016, 11:50 AM
I would want someone to sign him but I don't think I'd risk him dying on my court


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I'm in the same boat. it would be like if Rudy Tomjonavich died after the Kermit Washington punch- although the anger would be more directed at "The Iressponsible team for putting him on the court and clearing him".

hotdalton18
10-01-2016, 11:55 AM
No team will sign him and even the thought is ignorant

Two years in a row he could of died on the court

Even his independent doctors say no...he just kept looking till 1 finally said yes

Giannis94
10-01-2016, 12:02 PM
No team will sign him and even the thought is ignorant

Two years in a row he could of died on the court

Even his independent doctors say no...he just kept looking till 1 finally said yes

Right, which is why I am still searching for the incentive that he has to continue playing if he gets the rest of the $$ on his contract?

mike_noodles
10-01-2016, 12:08 PM
I get the feeling Bosh doesn't understand his own medical situation. Or he does and is too passionate/stupid to walk away.

I wouldn't sign him, but may offer him a spot as an assistant coach / big man specialist.

FlashBolt
10-01-2016, 12:33 PM
Bosh isn't stupid, though. If his life was at a high probability of risk, he wouldn't be doing this at all. He's probably being told by those around him to keep playing (so they can reap his benefits) to continue playing and that it's not a big deal. Whatever the case may be, it depends on how much he wants to play for. At the end of the day, no team will take that liability and pay him max dollars.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
10-01-2016, 01:17 PM
I could see Riley maybe working out a trade and let the new team worry about him. Celtics or Raptors? Cavs or Bulls?

basketballkitty
10-01-2016, 01:34 PM
I could see Riley maybe working out a trade and let the new team worry about him. Celtics or Raptors? Cavs or Bulls?



LOL!! Yeah right. You believe in Santa Clause too ?

da ThRONe
10-01-2016, 03:03 PM
I could see Riley maybe working out a trade and let the new team worry about him. Celtics or Raptors? Cavs or Bulls?

Problem with this is the Heat would have to clear Bosh to trade him. Only way this works is if another team is able to test Bosh out medically and conclude he's safe. I'm not sure a team can even do that if Chris is a member of the Heat.

nycericanguy
10-01-2016, 03:11 PM
Bosh isn't stupid, though. If his life was at a high probability of risk, he wouldn't be doing this at all. He's probably being told by those around him to keep playing (so they can reap his benefits) to continue playing and that it's not a big deal. Whatever the case may be, it depends on how much he wants to play for. At the end of the day, no team will take that liability and pay him max dollars.

he gets paid regardless no?

If someone else signs him i'm sure it would be a vet min deal. i dont think this is about money/

we dont know all the details, but I'm sure Bosh wouldnt be risking his life if there was significant danger. so if a team doc legitimately clears him, then why not?

TrueFan420
10-01-2016, 06:28 PM
Right, which is why I am still searching for the incentive that he has to continue playing if he gets the rest of the $$ on his contract?
Most likely it's because it's all he knows. It's been his everything his whole life. Walking away is hard even under normal circumstances like old age. Walking away for health is got to be tough.

I remember convincing my coach to let me play state cup after it being the first time I got out of bed after an extremely bad case of pneumonia that caused me to drop 30 pounds. I would have played and my coach would have let me if my dad had not stepped in. In retrospect it wouldn't worked. I remember trying to run down the sideline while watching during the game and being winded.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-01-2016, 06:40 PM
Sure.

TrueFan420
10-01-2016, 07:47 PM
Sure.
Care to elaborate?

FlashBolt
10-01-2016, 10:17 PM
he gets paid regardless no?

If someone else signs him i'm sure it would be a vet min deal. i dont think this is about money/

we dont know all the details, but I'm sure Bosh wouldnt be risking his life if there was significant danger. so if a team doc legitimately clears him, then why not?

He's still capable of signing another long-term contract.


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TrueFan420
10-01-2016, 10:20 PM
He's still capable of signing another long-term contract.


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Capable yes... realistic no

JordansBulls
10-01-2016, 10:27 PM
Yes the Bulls and he and Wade will led us to a title this year.

Clint Olbrock
10-01-2016, 11:09 PM
Yes the Bulls and he and Wade will led us to a title this year.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, 2nd time I've seen you mention that. Gotta see how your team fits together and if they can stay healthy first.. Even if they mesh well and stay healthy they aren't beating my Cavs in a 7 game series.

Giannis94
10-02-2016, 11:22 AM
Yes the Bulls and he and Wade will led us to a title this year.

I mean I guess it would help sales and business by adding bandwagon fans.

FlashBolt
10-02-2016, 12:08 PM
Capable yes... realistic no

Exactly; which is why I said those around him are pressuring him to continue playing so they can get some money too. It's probably why he fired his agent, too.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-02-2016, 01:28 PM
Care to elaborate?

If half the teams are going to clear him, that would probably mean there's quite a few teams that would sign him. I may as well be the team that signs a valuable player like that.

Chronz
10-02-2016, 02:28 PM
Exactly; which is why I said those around him are pressuring him to continue playing so they can get some money too. It's probably why he fired his agent, too.

But hes already made his money and what if he gets a buyout, it means hes willing to pay to play, will you then believe his authenticity?

TrueFan420
10-02-2016, 05:37 PM
If half the teams are going to clear him, that would probably mean there's quite a few teams that would sign him. I may as well be the team that signs a valuable player like that.
And if he drops dead on your court?

Clint Olbrock
10-02-2016, 05:51 PM
And if he drops dead on your court?

Like Channing Frye?

Bosh will be fully cleared before he steps foot on even a practice floor with full contact.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-02-2016, 08:49 PM
If he's not dying on my floor, he's dying on someone else's. I may as well try to get a championship out of it.

Twolves88
10-03-2016, 12:55 AM
As a wolves fan hell yeah sign him. Brings in a good mentor for towns. + nice big lineup.

Rubio
Lavine
Wiggins
Bosh
Towns

That's playoffs at min

Sadds The Gr8
10-03-2016, 01:29 AM
i wouldnt risk it

FlashBolt
10-03-2016, 02:02 AM
But hes already made his money and what if he gets a buyout, it means hes willing to pay to play, will you then believe his authenticity?

I think the risk is there. High enough for any owner to not want to take the liability but low enough for Bosh to still want to play. It must be difficult for him to acknowledge that considering the past two seasons, he's been on a losing team but quite frankly, Bosh needs to understand that if a team doesn't want to take that risk, he has to move on. Can't keep trying to blame them for what is the right thing to do.

KingPosey
10-03-2016, 02:52 AM
From my franchises point of view, as the Kings, absolutely I'd try and sign him. There is such a black mark on the front office this is the only way they can get a close to front tier difference maker

They have to take the risk he's still elite, healthy, etc, to get someone of his caliber here and hope his play on the court propels them as well as his leadership.

They aren't gonna catch lightning twice like they did with the webber trade scenario, so they'd HAVE to take a BIG leap of faith in the right player, instead of just trying to grab anyone player with a name and one time talent.

LA4life24/8
10-03-2016, 02:12 PM
Nah, i dont want him dying on any court. The dude is a champion and a millionaire. Walk away, or turn to coaching. Be smart bosh, just be done. Not worth your life

albertajaysfan
10-03-2016, 02:49 PM
Based on the parameters put forth by the OP definitely I would sign him. He fits a team need for the Raptors plus there is the history. Him coming back to Toronto to finish his career would be cool, especially with a team that is good unlike the dumpster fire the organization was for so many years.

Now based on the information we currently have at our disposal, not a chance.

Slug3
10-03-2016, 04:06 PM
I don't really think any team should want to clear him to play. 3 blood clots in 2 years is not a sign he can ever come off of thinners.

Now if for some reason he can come off thinners in the future and a team is willing to only let him play home games so he doesn't have to travel a lot then maybe they would sign him. But would a team really want a guy you can only use for half the time? Would the league even allow that?

Bosh is going from being a great athlete to having what he loves to play be taken from him like that. So of course he doesnt want to believe he can't play, and you can tell he kind of thinks the Heat or maybe even Riley are out to get him off their books. I wish the dude was healthy so he could play for us, but really I don't see any team even wanting to take that risk.

mrblisterdundee
10-03-2016, 06:07 PM
Right, which is why I am still searching for the incentive that he has to continue playing if he gets the rest of the $$ on his contract?

According to Brian Windhorst from ESPN, Bosh will likely have to surrender some of that money if he wants out of Miami:


The only way Bosh could become a free agent now would be for the team to release him, which is unlikely unless Bosh would be willing to negotiate a buyout of his contract in which he accepts significantly less money.
- Brian Windhorst, ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17680214/chris-bosh-learned-failed-physical-miami-heat-media)

Even if he was willing to give up money to keep playing, which I totally think he is, I'm guessing Bosh would need multiple physicians to sign off that he's not putting his life at risk.
In that unlikely event, I think Bosh takes a big pay cut and becomes one of the most valuable players in the league on a production-per-dollar basis. Imagine him taking the veteran's minimum and going to Cleveland to win rings.