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Chronz
07-21-2016, 08:55 PM
Selecting "generations" with 5 year increments, these are each of their 5 best Point Guards


1995-2000: Penny, The Glove, Stockton, Tim Hardaway, KJ

2000-2005: Jason Kidd, Starbury, Steve Francis, Baron Davis, Sam Cassell

2005-2010: CP3, Agent Zero, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Big Shot Billups

2010-2015: Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Curry and ____________


Yes I know most guys qualify in other eras too but lets face it, Im better suited than most of you to determine which era they most relate to.

Like Chauncey and Nash are technically from the 90's but I count from when they became All-Stars/All-NBA types and how far into the era they were in. Nash was an All-Star in Dallas by the 2002 season. Chauncey broke out when he got to Detroit in the 2003 season. Both had their best days in 2005+ era and because more than half the "era " had gone by there is some gray area here. In those situations I just tried to field the best possible candidates overall.

Raidaz4Life
07-21-2016, 09:10 PM
I got 05-10 here. CP3 and Nash were absolutely dominant.

HOLD_THIS_L
07-21-2016, 09:42 PM
Nash is in two categories. Why doesn't that apply for CP3?

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More-Than-Most
07-21-2016, 09:57 PM
Anything with CP3 in his prime.... Steve Nash wasnt as great early on... Kidd was kidd but never at the level of CP3 or maybe even prime Williams... Id have to do more homework but CP3/Williams/Nash/Agent Zero and Billups in that span was 2nd to none... CP3 gets rediculously underrated but really think about how many MVPs he might have if Lebron didnt exist... CP3 and Stockton really got the ****** end of the sticks having 2 of the GOATS in their primes.

More-Than-Most
07-21-2016, 10:00 PM
lol that cp3 2008 season and he wasnt even the MVP... 23/11/6/3 on 50 percent shooting and 36 percent from the 3.... On top of being by far the best defensive PG in basketball and probably top 5-10 defender in all of basketball. Now of course if curry and westy continue their dominance then this is all null and void but personally I think this cp3 season is better than any curry season because of his defense and limited help

KnicksorBust
07-21-2016, 10:08 PM
05-10 and I personally don't think it is close. Payl and Nash are top 5 of all-time at the position and that era has depth with prime dwill and peak Gilbo. Then I even get 04 fmvp Billups? Too easy.

Who did you leave out for current? "Curry and..." dramatic pause...

Chronz
07-21-2016, 10:35 PM
Nash is in two categories. Why doesn't that apply for CP3?

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Good catch, I meant to type Steve Francis.

HOLD_THIS_L
07-21-2016, 10:36 PM
Good catch, I meant to type Steve Francis.
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Chronz
07-21-2016, 10:36 PM
05-10 and I personally don't think it is close. Payl and Nash are top 5 of all-time at the position and that era has depth with prime dwill and peak Gilbo. Then I even get 04 fmvp Billups? Too easy.

Who did you leave out for current? "Curry and..." dramatic pause...

Didn't want to hurt anyones feelings. Frankly between Conley, Irving, Kyle and Lillard, you cant really go wrong with any pick.

JasonJohnHorn
07-21-2016, 11:07 PM
For me, 95-00 is totally out of the running. I got a hard on for Stockton bigger than anybody, but his best years were 88-95. His team's best years were 97 and 98, though he was still HOF level then.

The Glove was on point then. His best years, but Tim Hardaway seemed to go down hill in my mind as soon as he left GSW. KJ was already on his downward slope, and Penny only had a couple of outstanding season before succumbing to injury. That give year stretch for those guards was the least impressive of this group.

2000-2005 is out too. I love Steven Francis early, but he was a score-first point guard that never took his team anywhere. Ditto for Marbury. Kidd was an MVP candidate of course, and great leader, but not enough of an offensive threat then. Davis was great, but injuries were an issue. Cassell was great as a leader (few were better leaders), but no where near the level of talent as most guys in this conversation.

2005-2010: CP3, Agent Zero, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Big Shot Billups
This is a great crop, and you still have Kidd in play (no pun intended). Billups had his best years starting in 2003/04 and was still making waves four or five years later. Nash was playing MVP ball. CP3 was having some amazing seasons, as was D-Will. But Arenas was just another high-volume scorer.


2010-2015: Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Curry.

I'd likely go with this group or the 2005-2010 group. Rose isn't a factory in my mind: he just had one great season. But CP3 has been an MVP candidate every year. Westbrook put up some amazing personal stats. Curry emerged as one of the greatest shooters of all time. AND you still had Parker, who was good enough to hold the fort down for back-to-back finals appearances and a championship.

You also got John Wall and Kyrie coming up at this time.


I'm voting for this group, but I think going by the decade works a little better.... in which case I go with 2000-2010 (Nash, Kidd, CP3, D-Will at his best. All of Billups best seasons. Rondo emerging as a star. Parker having all of his best seasons.

ewing
07-22-2016, 09:44 PM
2005-2010 easily :shrug:

JordansBulls
07-23-2016, 01:32 PM
1995 to 2000

mavwar53
07-23-2016, 01:59 PM
Without looking at stats for the years the players are under it would be 95-00, there could be major changes everywhere. The biggest being CP3 in '10-'15, Westbrook, Curry and CP3 is flat out amazing. Only problem is Rose being injured 50% of that time period and Rondo is well below many of the other candidates IMO unless we're going on just passing ability.

DR_1
08-01-2016, 02:54 PM
Stockton is in the 90s. Nough said.

Tony_Starks
08-01-2016, 03:04 PM
2000-2005

Not only were those pgs raw but the competition of pgs was pretty serious almost nightly.

Some of the same players from the 2005-2010 class were around during that time but Kidd, BD and Starbury were completely eating their lunch. That's when PGs were beast. Could distribute, give you buckets and even take you to the block.

Prime Baron Davis? Man oh man, would kill any PG alive right now.

flea
08-02-2016, 12:04 PM
2005-2010 easily :shrug:

Agree, I think the 5 best career selections from all the choices are Nash, CP3, Billups, Kidd, and either Payton or Deron Williams. Old Stockton/Hardaway and post-injuries KJ and Penny take it out of the running for me. I was never a fan of the low IQ scoring guards of the early 2000s, and for as much love as the PGs of this era get I don't think they compare to the floor generals of last decade.