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joedaheights
05-23-2016, 11:00 PM
All the talent, all the numbers, all the things that will make someone in 30 years say "actually look at these insane numbers from Lebron James. He's the goat."

And yet if you were THERE at the time, you saw him not taking over in crunch time.. Watching the game seem to.. Pass him by?

Avenged
05-23-2016, 11:03 PM
Lol

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 11:25 PM
LeBron was incredible tonight. What game are you watching.

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joedaheights
05-23-2016, 11:46 PM
LeBron was incredible tonight. What game are you watching.

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Yeah he really took it over down the stretch. His sense of timing and ability to take over was instrumental in cleveland's win.

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 11:48 PM
Yeah he really took it over down the stretch. His sense of timing and ability to take over was instrumental in cleveland's win.
You're one of the if he doesn't go mj or kobe he's not trying to win folks huh

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joedaheights
05-23-2016, 11:54 PM
You're one of the if he doesn't go mj or kobe he's not trying to win folks huh

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What he's trying to do is immaterial and I don't question his effort. But you either take over or you don't. Have you watched the end of a lot of games involving Bird or Jordan? They don't look like the game tonight

More-Than-Most
05-24-2016, 12:03 AM
LeBron was incredible tonight. What game are you watching.

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Its not worth man... Its the same few haters.... Defense/Rebounding/Scoring/Passing matters not... Love and Kyrie played the worst I have ever seen but its just not worth.

More-Than-Most
05-24-2016, 12:04 AM
Only on PSD does shooting equate to taking a game over :rolleyes:

Not opening things up and dishing it out to wide open players or being the only one playing defense or stealing the ball and not turning it over or dropping 29 on like 60 plus percent shooting and grabbing mans rebounds over a beast centers like the raptors have.... Shooting jumpers is taking the game over bro.

29-9-6 with a block/2 steals and 1 turnover while shooting 11-16 and playing every minute of the game yet he was terrible lol. I love this place

europagnpilgrim
05-24-2016, 12:17 AM
All the talent, all the numbers, all the things that will make someone in 30 years say "actually look at these insane numbers from Lebron James. He's the goat."

And yet if you were THERE at the time, you saw him not taking over in crunch time.. Watching the game seem to.. Pass him by?

the hard to swallow part about the BigDipper is if blocks had been kept track he would have averaged around 15-18 blocks per game for his entire career, now add his ppg and rpg and that equates to the most dominant solo act all time by a pretty large margin, he could start a fast break via a rebound but no way does he handle the ball like a PG/SG/pointFoward like most others who round out a top 10 list, regardless if he ran the PG for the harlem globetrotters , even one of the best ever in Big O said BigDipper had more triple doubles then him had they counted blocks and he had many triple double assist games as a Center

don't compare him to any player on a solo individual level

NBA Record - Most Points Per Game in a season (50.4 in the 1961-62 season)
Chamberlain also holds the next three spots with 44.8 in 1962-63, 38.4 in 1960-61 and 37.6 in 1959-60.
NBA Record - Most Points in a season (4,029 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next highest with 3,586 in 1962-63
NBA Record - Most Points Scored in a Game (100 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
NBA Record - Most Points Scored in a Half (59 in the 2nd half vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
NBA Record - Most 50 Point Games in a season (45 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next most with 30 in 1962-63. No other player has had more than 10. Only Michael Jordan (39 including playoffs) and Kobe Bryant (25 including playoffs) have more than 20 in their careers.
NBA Record - Most 40 Point Games in a season (63 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next most with 52 in 1962-63. Michael Jordan is third with 37 in 1986-87.
NBA Record - Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League in Points Per Game (7)
Record shared with Michael Jordan.
NBA Record - Most Career Regular Season 60 Point Games (32)
Kobe Bryant is second with 6.
NBA Record - Most Career Regular Season 50 Point Games (118)
Michael Jordan is second with 31.
NBA Record - Most Career Regular Season 40 Point Games (271)[11]
Michael Jordan is second with 173.
NBA Record - Most Consecutive 50 Point Games (7 from December 1629, 1961)
Chamberlain also holds the next three longest streaks with 6 in 1962, and 5 in 1961 and 1962.
NBA Record - Most Consecutive 40 Point Games (14 from December 830, 1961 and January 11-February 1, 1962)
Chamberlain also has the next most with 10 from November 925, 1962.
NBA Record - Most Consecutive 30 Point Games (65 from November 4, 1961 February 22, 1962)
Chamberlain holds the next two longest streaks with 31 in 1962 and 25 in 1960.
NBA Record - Most Consecutive 20 Point Games (126 from October 19, 1961 January 19, 1963)
Chamberlain holds the next most with 92 from February 26, 1963-March 18, 1964.
NBA Record - Most points per game by a rookie (37.6 in 1959-60)
NBA Record - Most points by a rookie (2,707 in 1959-60)
NBA Record - Most points by a rookie in a game (58 on January 25, 1960 and February 21, 1960)
NBA Record - Most points scored by a player in his first NBA game (43 on October 24, 1959, against the New York Knicks)
NBA Record - Fewest games played to reach 15,000 points (358, achieved in 1964)
Michael Jordan, at 460 games, took the second fewest games.
NBA Record - Fewest Games Played to Reach 20,000 Points (499, achieved in 1966)
Michael Jordan, at 620 games, took the second fewest games.
NBA Record - Fewest Games Played to Reach 25,000 Points (691, achieved on February 23, 1968 against the Detroit Pistons)
Michael Jordan, at 782 games, took the second fewest games.
NBA Record - Fewest Games Played to Reach 30,000 Points (941, achieved on February 16, 1972 against the Phoenix Suns)
Michael Jordan, at 960 games, took the second fewest games.
NBA Record - Most consecutive seasons leading the league in field goals made (7 from 1959-60 through 1965-66)
Shared with Michael Jordan
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Made in a season (1,597 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next 3 spots with 1,463 in 1962-63, 1,251 in 1960-61, and 1,204 in 1963-64
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a season (3,159 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next four highest with 2,770, 2,457, 2,311, and 2,298.
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Made in a Game (36 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
Chamberlain holds the next highest with 31, and is tied with Rick Barry at third with 30
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a Game (63 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
Chamberlain holds the next two most with 62 and 60.
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Made in a Half (22 in the 2nd half vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a Half (37 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962 (2nd half)
NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a Quarter (21 in the 4th quarter vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
NBA Record - Most Free Throws Made in a Game (28 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
Record shared with Adrian Dantley
NBA Record - Most seasons leading the NBA in free throw attempts (9)
NBA Record - Most consecutive seasons leading the NBA in free throw attempts (6 from 1959-60 through 1964-65)
NBA Record - Most Free Throws Attempted in a season (1,363 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain also holds the next four spots with 1,113, 1,054, 1,016, and 991.
NBA Playoff Record - Most points by a rookie in a game (53 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 14, 1960)
Pulled down a rookie playoff record 35 rebounds in the same game.
Chamberlain also scored 50 as a rookie against the Boston Celtics on March 22, 1960.
NBA Playoff Record - Most field goals in a seven-game series (113 vs. the St. Louis Hawks in 1964)
NBA Playoff Record - Most field goals in a game (24 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 14, 1960)
Record shared with John Havlicek and Michael Jordan
NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a game (48 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 22, 1962)
Record shared with Rick Barry
NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a half (25 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 22, 1962)
Record shared with Elgin Baylor and Michael Jordan
NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a three-game series (104 vs. the Syracuse Nationals in 1960)
NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a five-game series (159 vs. the Syracuse Nationals in 1962)
NBA All-Star Game Record - Points in a game (42 in 1962)
NBA All-Star Game Record - Field goals in a half (10 in 1962) Record shared with Blake Griffin

NBA All-Star Game Record - Free throw attempts in a game (16 in 1962)
Chamberlain also holds the second most attempts in an All-Star Game with 15 in 1960.

Other selected scoring facts[edit]
2nd highest career scoring average (30.07) record held by Michael Jordan (30.12) [Note: Jordan scored 581 3-point field goals, which didn't exist at Wilt's time]
2nd most free throws made in a season (835 in 1961-62) record held by Jerry West
2nd most free throws attempted in a Game (34 vs. the St. Louis Hawks on February 22, 1962) record held by Dwight Howard
Chamberlain also holds third place with 32 on March 2, 1962.
2nd most points in an NBA All-Star Game half (23 in 1962) record held by Glen Rice; 2nd place shared with Tom Chambers
2nd most field goals made in an NBA All-Star Game (17 in 1962) record held by Blake Griffin; 2nd place shared with Kevin Garnett and Michael Jordan
2nd most Playoff games with at least 50 points: 4 record held by Michael Jordan (8);
All of Wilt games were in regulation time; two of Jordan's 50-point games came in overtime. Both of them scored a maximum 56 points in 48-minute playoff games.
3rd highest scoring average in Elimination games (31.1) record held by LeBron James (31.7) followed by Michael Jordan (31.3);
Wilt Chamberlain is the only player to record at least 50 points in an Elimination game (a feat he accomplished three times).

NBA rebounding records[edit]
See also: List of National Basketball Association top individual rebounding season averagesSee also: List of National Basketball Association top rookie rebounding averagesSee also: List of National Basketball Association players with most rebounds in a gameNBA Record - Career Total Rebounds (23,924)
NBA Record - Career Rebounds Per Game (22.9)
NBA Record - Most seasons leading the league in rebounds (11)
NBA Record - Most seasons with 1,000 or more rebounds (13)
NBA Record - Rebounds Per Game in a season (27.2)
Chamberlain also holds the next two highest averages with 27.0 in 1959-60 and 25.7 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain and Bill Russell occupy the top 18 spots on this list (9 each).
NBA Record - Total Rebounds in a season (2,149 in 1960-1961)
Chamberlain also holds the next six highest totals.
NBA Record - Rebounds in a game (55, Philadelphia Warriors vs. Boston Celtics, November 24, 1960)
Besides Bill Russell (11 times, including 3 playoff games, max of 51) only Nate Thurmond (42) and Jerry Lucas (40) have ever gotten at least 40.
NBA Record - Most rebounds per game by a rookie in a season (27.0)
NBA Record - Most rebounds by a rookie in a season (1,941)
NBA Record - Most rebounds by a rookie in a game (45 on February 6, 1960)
Chamberlain, as a rookie, also grabbed 43 rebounds in one game, 42 in two others, and 40 in another.
NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a playoff game (41 against the Boston Celtics, on April 5, 1967).
Game 3 victory in the Eastern Division finals.
NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a half (26 against the San Francisco Warriors on April 16, 1967)
Also an NBA Finals record.
NBA Playoff Record - Highest rebounding average in a playoff series (32.0 in a 5-game series against the Boston Celtics in 1967).
NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a 5-game playoff series (160 against the Boston Celtics in 1967).
NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a 6-game playoff series (171 against the San Francisco Warriors in 1967).
Also an NBA Finals record for a 6-game series.
NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a 7-game playoff series (220 against the Boston Celtics in 1965).
NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds by a rookie in a game (35 against the Boston Celtics on March 22, 1960)
Scored a then-playoff record 53 points (still a rookie record) in the same game (a Game 5 victory).
NBA Finals Record - Highest rebounds per game average, career (24.6)
NBA All-Star Game Record - Most career rebounds in the NBA All-Star game (197).
NBA All-Star Game Record - Most rebounds in a half (16 in 1960).
Record shared with Bob Pettit

Other selected rebound facts[edit]
2nd most consecutive seasons with 1,000+ rebounds (10) record held by Bill Russell
2nd most rebounds in a half (31 vs. the Boston Celtics on November 24, 1960) record held by Bill Russell
2nd most rebounds in a quarter (17 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on February 5, 1960) record held by Nate Thurmond, 2nd place is shared with three performances by Bill Russell
2nd most rebounds in a 3-game NBA Playoff series (69 vs. the Syracuse Nationals in 1961) record held by Bill Russell
2nd most rebounds in a 4-game NBA Playoff series (106 vs. the Cincinnati Royals in 1967) record held by Bill Russell
2nd most consecutive games 20+ rebounds in the NBA Finals (12 over a series of games in the 1964, 1967, and 1969 finals) record held by Bill Russell
2nd most consecutive games 30+ rebounds in the NBA Finals (2 in 1967 finals, 2 in 1969 finals) record held by Bill Russell; 2nd place is also shared by Bill Russell
2nd most rebounds in a 5-game NBA Finals (vs. Boston Celtics in 1967) record held by Bill Russell
2nd most rebounds in a 7-game NBA Finals (vs. Boston Celtics in 1969) record held by Bill Russell
2nd highest rebounding average in the NBA All-Star Game (15.2) record held by Bob Pettit
3rd highest rebounding average in an NBA Finals series (28.5 in 1967) first two spots held by Bill Russell
Chamberlain is the only player to grab more than 2,000 rebounds in a single season: 2,149 rebounds in the 1960-61 season and 2,052 in 1961-62.
Chamberlain's 1961-62 season stat line: 4,029 points (50.4 ppg) and 2,052 rebounds (25.7 rpg).

NBA versatility records[edit]
NBA Record - Most double-doubles, all-time: 968.[12]
NBA Record - Highest single-season PER: 31.82 in 1963 season.
Wilt Chamberlain also holds the second spot: 31.74 in 1962 season.
NBA Record - Most consecutive triple-doubles (9) (March 820, 1968)
NBA Record - Most consecutive double-doubles (227)[13] (between 1964 and 1967 seasons) Wilt Chamberlain also holds the 2nd (220) and 3rd (133) longest streaks.[14]

NBA Record - Most points scored in a triple-double game (53 points, along with 32 rebounds and 14 assists) (March 18, 1968)
NBA All-Star Game Record - Most double-doubles (7)

Other selected versatility facts[edit]
Only player in NBA history to record a double-triple-double (20+ in three different categories)
On February 2, 1968 against the Detroit Pistons, he logged 22 points, 25 rebounds and 21 assists.[15]
Only player in NBA history to record a quadruple double-double (40+ in two different categories) (a feat he performed 8 times).
On November 4, 1959, Chamberlain, in his third game in the NBA, scored 41 points and grabbed a then-rookie record 40 rebounds against the Syracuse Nationals.
On January 15, 1960, Chamberlain, as a rookie, scored 44 points and grabbed 42 rebounds against the Boston Celtics.
On January 25, 1960, Chamberlain, as a rookie, scored an NBA rookie record 58 points and grabbed 42 rebounds against the Detroit Pistons.
On February 6, 1960, Chamberlain, as a rookie, scored 44 points and grabbed an NBA rookie record 45 rebounds against the Syracuse Nationals.
On January 21, 1961, Chamberlain scored 56 points and grabbed 45 rebounds against the Los Angeles Lakers.
On December 8, 1961, Chamberlain scored a then-record 78 points and collected 43 rebounds against the Los Angeles Lakers.
On October 26, 1962, Chamberlain scored 50 points and grabbed 41 rebounds against the Detroit Pistons.
On November 22, 1964, Chamberlain scored 50 points and grabbed 40 rebounds against the Detroit Pistons.
Chamberlain led the league in total assists 196768, with 702 assists (he did not lead the league in assists per game): he remains the only center to lead the league in assists.
Most 30-30 games (at least 30 points and rebounds) in the history of NBA: 103;
All the other NBA players combine to 28 games[16]
Only player in NBA history to average at least 20 points and 20 rebounds in a 7-game Finals series (23.3 points and 24.1 rebounds, performed during the 1970 NBA Finals)
Wilt Chamberlain also had a Field Goal Percentage of 62.5% (70/112) during that series.
2nd most triple-doubles in a season: 31 in 1967-68 season.
The first is Oscar Robertson, with 41 in 1961-62 season.
3rd most double-doubles in the Playoffs: 143
The first is Tim Duncan, with 158, and the second is Magic Johnson, with 157.[17]
4th most triple-doubles, career: 78
Wilt Chamberlain is the only Center among the first 17 names.

NBA durability records[edit]
NBA Record - Most seasons leading NBA in minutes played (8)
NBA Record - Most consecutive seasons leading NBA in minutes played (5, from 1959-60 through 1963-64)
NBA Record - Most career minutes played per game (45.8)
Bill Russell is second at 42.3
NBA Record - Most minutes played in a season (3,882 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain also holds the next four most with 3,836 in 1967-68, 3,806 in 1962-63, 3,773 in 1960-61, and 3,737 in 1965-66
NBA Record - Most minutes played per game for a season (48.53 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the top 7 spots in this category
Chamberlain's 3,882 minutes played out of the team's possible 3,890 left an average of six seconds of rest per game.
A regulation NBA basketball game is 48 minutes long.
NBA Record - Most complete games in a season (79 out of 80 games in 1961-62)
NBA Record - Most consecutive complete games in a season (47 in 1961-62)
NBA Playoff Record - Highest post-season career average minutes per game: 47.24
NBA Playoff Record - Highest average minutes per game in a playoff series (49.33 (296/6) against the New York Knicks in 1968)
NBA Playoff Record - Most minutes played in a three-game series (144 against the Syracuse Nationals in 1961)
NBA Playoff Record - Most minutes played in a four-game series (195 against the Cincinnati Royals in 1965 and the Atlanta Hawks in 1970)
Record shared with Jerry Lucas and Oscar Robertson.
NBA Playoff Record - Most minutes played in a six-game series (296 against the New York Knicks in 1968)
NBA Finals Record - Most minutes played in a five-game series (240 against the New York Knicks in 1973)
Chamberlain never fouled out of a regular season or playoff game in his 14 years in the NBA. His career average was only 2 fouls per game, despite having averaged 45.8 minutes per game over his career. His fouls per 36 minutes (a stat used to compare players that average vastly different minutes) was a remarkable 1.6 per game.[1]

Other selected durability facts[edit]
3rd most minutes played in the NBA All-Star game: 388;
record held by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (449)
2nd oldest player to win Finals MVP award: 35 years, 8 months, 14 days old in 1972;
record held by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38 years, 1 month, 23 days old in 1985)
2nd oldest player to lead the league in rebounds: 36 years, 8 months in 1973;
record held by Dennis Rodman (37 years old in 1998)
2nd oldest player in NBA history to score at least 60 points in a game: 32 years, 126 days (66 points vs Phoenix Suns on Feb 9, 1969)
record held by Kobe Bryant (scored 60 points at age 37 years, 7 months and 20 days)
Chamberlain remains the oldest player to score more than 60 points in a game.
Chamberlain is also the third and fourth oldest player to score at least 60 points in a game.

NBA accuracy records[edit]
See also: List of National Basketball Association top individual field goal percentage seasonsNBA Record - Most consecutive seasons leading NBA in field goal percentage (5, from 1964-65 through 1968-69)
Tied with Shaquille O'Neal
NBA Record - Highest Field Goal Percentage in a season with 72.7% (426 / 586) in 1972-73
Chamberlain also holds the third highest percentage with 68.3% (785 / 1150) in 1966-67
NBA Record - Most consecutive field goals (35 from February 1728, 1967)
NBA Record - Most field goals in a game without a miss (18, Philadelphia 76ers vs. the Baltimore Bullets on February 24, 1967)
Chamberlain also holds the next two most with 16 (March 19, 1967) and 15 (January 20, 1967)
NBA Record - most free-throws missed in a single season (578 in the 196768 season)[18]
Chamberlain also missed the second most free throws in a single season at 528 in the 196162 season.
NBA Playoff Record - Most free throws missed in a game (17, vs. Boston Celtics, April 12, 1966)
NBA Playoff Record - Most free throws missed in a half (12, vs. Boston Celtics, April 12, 1966)

Other selected accuracy facts[edit]
2nd most seasons leading NBA in field goal percentage (9) record held by Shaquille O'Neal (10)
2nd most free throws missed in a game (22, vs. Seattle SuperSonics, December 1, 1967) record held by Andre Drummond (23)
2nd most free throws missed in a half (12, vs. Syracuse Nationals, November 17, 1960) record held by Andre Drummond (17)
2nd most free throws attempted in a game with none made (10 vs. the Detroit Pistons on 11/04/1960) record held by Shaquille O'Neal (11) (12/08/2000)
3rd most free throws attempted in a game with none made (9 at the St. Louis Hawks on February 19, 1967)
3rd lowest career free throw percentage in NBA history (minimum 1200 attempts) record held by Ben Wallace

Accolades[edit]

In addition to his many statistical accomplishments, Chamberlain also had a successful career. He is a two-time NBA Champion (1967, 1972) and a six-time NBA Finalist (1964, '67, '69-'70, '72-'73), was voted NBA MVP 4 times (1959-60, 1965-66, 1966-67, 1967-68 seasons) and NBA Finals MVP once (1972), was elected to 7 All-NBA First Teams (1960-'62, '64, '66-'68) and 3 All-NBA Second Teams ('63, '65, '72) and is with Wes Unseld one of two players to have won the Rookie of the Year and the MVP awards in the same year. In addition, he was voted NBA All-Star Game MVP 1960 and also made two All-Defensive First Teams (1972, '73).[7]
Rookie of the Year (1959-60 season)
NBA All-Star Game MVP 1960
4x MVP (195960, 196566, 196667, 1967-68 seasons)
7x All-NBA First Team (1960-'62, '64, '66-'68)
3x All-NBA Second Team ('63, '65, '72)
2x NBA champion (1967, '72)
1x Finals MVP (1972)
2x All-Defensive First Team (1972-'73)
Inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1978)
One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996).
Chamberlain ranked #2 in SLAM Magazine's Top 50 NBA Players of All-Time in 2009.
Chamberlain ranked #13 in ESPN list of top athletes of the 20th century

Bostonjorge
05-24-2016, 12:31 AM
Only on PSD does shooting equate to taking a game over :rolleyes:

Not opening things up and dishing it out to wide open players or being the only one playing defense or stealing the ball and not turning it over or dropping 29 on like 60 plus percent shooting and grabbing mans rebounds over a beast centers like the raptors have.... Shooting jumpers is taking the game over bro.

29-9-6 with a block/2 steals and 1 turnover while shooting 11-16 and playing every minute of the game yet he was terrible lol. I love this place
James didn't open up anything. Biyombo was destroying his shots at the rim and had James scared the whole game. Irving had that first mini run and frye came in and opened up the driving lanes while bring them all the way back. Frye opened up the driving lanes and kept biyombo (the James stopper) far away from the paint. James then did one of his disappearing acts when the game mattered the most.

lol, please
05-24-2016, 12:32 AM
The answer to why Lebron has been silent is simple. It's one word:






















Biyombo.

Bostonjorge
05-24-2016, 12:49 AM
The answer to why Lebron has been silent is simple. It's one word:






















Biyombo.

I love the whole "no one can stop lebron". Then a second string C makes BBQ chicken out of him.

D-Leethal
05-24-2016, 08:17 AM
Sorry but LeBron was doing half assed drives to the paint where it was obvious he wasn't going to take it to the rack just so he could kick it out to JR Smith or Channing Frye. LeBron needs to take over and not rely on drive and kicks to bonafide bench players in crunch time of the ECF.

That selfless style is great but there comes a time where your best player needs to take over. 3 dribble kickouts to losers like that is a joke in crunch time.

YAALREADYKNO
05-24-2016, 10:08 AM
LeBron was incredible tonight. What game are you watching.

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0pts in the final 5:10 being defended mostly by Lowry

ewing
05-24-2016, 10:26 AM
Sorry but LeBron was doing half assed drives to the paint where it was obvious he wasn't going to take it to the rack just so he could kick it out to JR Smith or Channing Frye. LeBron needs to take over and not rely on drive and kicks to bonafide bench players in crunch time of the ECF.

That selfless style is great but there comes a time where your best player needs to take over. 3 dribble kickouts to losers like that is a joke in crunch time.

Timely hooping bro

Hawkeye15
05-24-2016, 10:31 AM
I was watching GoT's. Who won the match?

Kenny Powders
05-24-2016, 11:20 AM
i was watching got's. Who won the match?

hold the door!!!!

ewing
05-24-2016, 11:36 AM
I was watching GoT's. Who won the match?

Jack Sock

True Sports Fan
05-24-2016, 11:55 AM
Only on PSD does shooting equate to taking a game over :rolleyes:

Not opening things up and dishing it out to wide open players or being the only one playing defense or stealing the ball and not turning it over or dropping 29 on like 60 plus percent shooting and grabbing mans rebounds over a beast centers like the raptors have.... Shooting jumpers is taking the game over bro.

29-9-6 with a block/2 steals and 1 turnover while shooting 11-16 and playing every minute of the game yet he was terrible lol. I love this place

Someone who actually knows that they are talking about in a thread discussing LBJ. Very rare. Always a bunch of hate and garbage posts.

Chronz
05-24-2016, 12:03 PM
Criticism is very similar, success level is similar but Wilt is a tier above.

FOXHOUND
05-24-2016, 12:42 PM
The best player just can't be taking 1 shot over the final 5 minutes of a game, and as a result score zero points. JR Smith was 3-12 and 3-11 from 3, why are you constantly putting the game in his hands when you are LeBron James? He was 11-16, why didn't he he take over and drop 40 instead of being super selective with his shots? Kicking out for a bunch of 25-foot 3 pointers was weak and they paid for it with a loss.

joedaheights
05-24-2016, 07:11 PM
The best player just can't be taking 1 shot over the final 5 minutes of a game, and as a result score zero points. JR Smith was 3-12 and 3-11 from 3, why are you constantly putting the game in his hands when you are LeBron James? He was 11-16, why didn't he he take over and drop 40 instead of being super selective with his shots? Kicking out for a bunch of 25-foot 3 pointers was weak and they paid for it with a loss.

And that's just it. I think the NBA has a wonderful history, and all I want is for all parts of that history to be valued. In 20 years when someone who just hates Lebron James tried to say you know, Jawan jamo is better than James ever was; I'll probably end up defending James.

But in a critique of James... One has to realize that it's not that he can't do it.. He won't or doesn't know it's time to do it.

What is pressure... How does a player make you feel like, if you have a lead, 1:52 remaining might as well be 20 minutes remaining.. Like he's coming for you.

Reggie Miller... A player who is not one of the top 25 talents ever ... But who personified the exertion of pressure.

That's what Lebron is missing... A Reggie milleresque understanding of what pressure is...

Jamiecballer
05-24-2016, 09:31 PM
What he's trying to do is immaterial and I don't question his effort. But you either take over or you don't. Have you watched the end of a lot of games involving Bird or Jordan? They don't look like the game tonight
Neither did their skillsets or is everyone painted with the same brush with you regardless of what the best use of their actual talent is

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FOXHOUND
05-24-2016, 09:57 PM
And that's just it. I think the NBA has a wonderful history, and all I want is for all parts of that history to be valued. In 20 years when someone who just hates Lebron James tried to say you know, Jawan jamo is better than James ever was; I'll probably end up defending James.

But in a critique of James... One has to realize that it's not that he can't do it.. He won't or doesn't know it's time to do it.

What is pressure... How does a player make you feel like, if you have a lead, 1:52 remaining might as well be 20 minutes remaining.. Like he's coming for you.

Reggie Miller... A player who is not one of the top 25 talents ever ... But who personified the exertion of pressure.

That's what Lebron is missing... A Reggie milleresque understanding of what pressure is...

Yeah and what's odd is that he was doing it during the back-to-back title runs in Miami. That was the biggest thing that changed for him those two years, he really turned up his scoring and took over games late to close them out. I'm not sure what happened but maybe it really is just a lost confidence since his jumper is broken now.

Jawan Jamo :laugh2: