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GoferKing_
05-22-2016, 08:51 PM
...kicking Adams in the nuts. Seriously, this guy is mental or something.

IndyRealist
05-22-2016, 08:53 PM
I mean, that 70's porn stache though. I'd kick him in the nuts too.

More-Than-Most
05-22-2016, 09:12 PM
It wont matter... He is immune to punishment from the NBA.

mrblisterdundee
05-22-2016, 09:29 PM
You know his endless drive? That includes an endless drive to annoy.

koreancabbage
05-22-2016, 09:33 PM
im surprised the Thunder have taken such a high road on this.

kudos to them for not smacking the **** out of Green. not saying that taking the 12th man off the bench and laying down the wood on Green for 1 play is a good thing... but 90s basketball would have seen Green flattened a few times to make him think of doing that **** again.

More-Than-Most
05-22-2016, 09:52 PM
im surprised the Thunder have taken such a high road on this.

kudos to them for not smacking the **** out of Green. not saying that taking the 12th man off the bench and laying down the wood on Green for 1 play is a good thing... but 90s basketball would have seen Green flattened a few times to make him think of doing that **** again.

He better be suspended or I doubt they take the high road next time and **** will get real... I still dont think he will be suspended because the league sucks his dick so much.

ewing
05-22-2016, 10:46 PM
i'm 85% sure he wailed him in the nuts on purpose. I'd like to be 100% and then i would say definitely suspend him. as it is i am not sure. I couldn't believe he got a flag one though. either you purposely kicked a guy in the nuts or you didn't. if is ruled flagrant he needs to be tossed. you cant just wail dudes in the nuts

sixer04fan
05-22-2016, 10:59 PM
85% sure???

https://vine.co/v/iEP3UuaiQqH

Come on! Lol

5ass
05-22-2016, 11:02 PM
85% sure???

https://vine.co/v/iEP3UuaiQqH

Come on! Lol

Lol yeah that looks like he did it on purpose. This should be a suspension.

ewing
05-22-2016, 11:06 PM
i cant argue with a suspension. if you think there is any chance it wasn't a on purpose though i think you have let him play though.

cmellofan15
05-22-2016, 11:14 PM
LMAO this dude is hilarious. He just outright kicked the same guy in the nuts twice in a series. Draymond has no shame in his game!

eDush
05-22-2016, 11:15 PM
I mean, that 70's porn stache though. I'd kick him in the nuts too.So that stache makes you go nuts? ....get it....

FlashBolt
05-22-2016, 11:18 PM
He has the audacity to say it wasn't intentional... this guy is worse than LeBron when it comes to lying.

Wade n Fade
05-22-2016, 11:43 PM
Can we compare Green to KG? KG was known as an illegal screener who played pretty dirty. He got the "plays with heart" excuse a lot. Both are applauded for D.

MTL_123
05-22-2016, 11:47 PM
lose lose situation for the nba now

If they dont suspend green it shows they want to help the warriors
They do suspend him warriors are a completely different team and the nba doesnt want that because they been riding currys *

lol, please
05-22-2016, 11:51 PM
Close this thread.

FlashBolt
05-22-2016, 11:52 PM
Can we compare Green to KG? KG was known as an illegal screener who played pretty dirty. He got the "plays with heart" excuse a lot. Both are applauded for D.

Make no mistake, both are elite defenders. I would love to see Green battle with KG during his prime.. but don't get it twisted here. both are high level defenders. Green should have been DPOY last season. Green is incredibly talented but he resorts to dirty plays. grabbing jerseys, groin attacks, shoves, and the immaturity in his game is just downright embarrassing. i don't even care if we win as much as I want Green to lose.

Firefistus
05-22-2016, 11:52 PM
Can we compare Green to KG? KG was known as an illegal screener who played pretty dirty. He got the "plays with heart" excuse a lot. Both are applauded for D.

Did KG kick anyone in the balls? I don't recall him ever doing something like this. Especially twice in the same series. Green needs to GTFO of the NBA if he keeps pulling this ****. That's even illegal in Hockey.

HandsOnTheWheel
05-22-2016, 11:59 PM
Did KG kick anyone in the balls? I don't recall him ever doing something like this. Especially twice in the same series. Green needs to GTFO of the NBA if he keeps pulling this ****. That's even illegal in Hockey.

+1
No place in the league for that crap.

HandsOnTheWheel
05-23-2016, 12:01 AM
Close this thread.

Maybe you guys will be better without Draymond next game. Just a thought.

MarkieMark48
05-23-2016, 12:06 AM
lose lose situation for the nba now

If they dont suspend green it shows they want to help the warriors
They do suspend him warriors are a completely different team and the nba doesnt want that because they been riding currys *

Yup, nba would have had a much easier decision if GS was up 2-1...

Wade n Fade
05-23-2016, 12:07 AM
Did KG kick anyone in the balls? I don't recall him ever doing something like this. Especially twice in the same series. Green needs to GTFO of the NBA if he keeps pulling this ****. That's even illegal in Hockey.

Not from what I can recall, but KG did make some nice cheap shots on other players. I guess two wrongs are wrongs even if the degrees are different. I thought KG was a nice comparison because of the screens and dirty plays. But Green is taking it to a new level for many fans.

More-Than-Most
05-23-2016, 12:17 AM
They wont suspend him... He literally gets away with everything by the league and esp by the refs. No doubt in my mind he wont be suspended.

Raps08-09 Champ
05-23-2016, 12:18 AM
I think they have to suspend him given the suspension they gave earlier today to Dahntay Jones. I wish they didn't but I guess it's the fair thing to do.

Wade n Fade
05-23-2016, 12:20 AM
They wont suspend him... He literally gets away with everything by the league and esp by the refs. No doubt in my mind he wont be suspended.

It's a business decision and let's see how the league's "$" will speak. People thought Wade and the Heat will get calls in game 7 for a Heat Cavs ECF, but it was quite the contrary. So hopefully, there is some justice against Green.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 12:22 AM
i'm all up for him getting suspended and can care less for a competitive matchup. this guy pisses me off so much that he deserves to lose and reflect on his silly antics. you don't kick a man's nuts and then laugh at them after you scored on them because they clearly couldn't defend after that lowblow... props to Adams for keeping his cool. I guarantee Draymond would be running scared if he did that to Ben Wallace.

WaDe03
05-23-2016, 12:35 AM
Warriors fans should be happy with just a 1 game suspension, which it probably will be. They could definitely give him more, he put a lot of force behind that and it was clearly intentional. This will take a lot of the fun out of the series.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 12:37 AM
Warriors fans should be happy with just a 1 game suspension, which it probably will be. They could definitely give him more, he put a lot of force behind that and it was clearly intentional. This will take a lot of the fun out of the series.

1 game is probably okay.. now, if Adams fell to the floor and assumed the fetal position, this would be an instant ejection and suspension for the next game. huge momentum boost for us, we need to capitalize on this opportunity. going up 3-1, i don't see us losing 3 straight games.

HandsOnTheWheel
05-23-2016, 12:37 AM
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/734584723624865797/photo/1

hahaha its all just one big joke, right ESPN?

Stunner
05-23-2016, 12:39 AM
Hope he's gone so okc can go up 3-1

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 12:39 AM
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/734584723624865797/photo/1

hahaha its all just one big joke, right ESPN?

he's so stupid lol... what kind of explanation is that?

WaDe03
05-23-2016, 12:40 AM
Flashbolt, I could definitely be wrong but I think the winner of this next game will win the series. If you guys go up 3-1 it's a wrap.

Ariza's Better
05-23-2016, 12:47 AM
If Harden gets a game for a similar situation so should Green. But he won't because no one gets suspended in the playoffs.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 12:50 AM
Flashbolt, I could definitely be wrong but I think the winner of this next game will win the series. If you guys go up 3-1 it's a wrap.

you never know. Lakers were up 3-1 vs Suns and Suns came back. I hope you're right but it's not like the Warriors are the Suns.. they are way better. they can beat anyone with ease if they are 100% locked in. We also give away the biggest leads ever in this league.. so I hope we can keep our rythyhm going into tomorrow and play as if we're down in the series. IDK if we can win game 5.. that will be tough. but we HAVE to absolutely win games 4/6.

WITZ
05-23-2016, 12:53 AM
The league suspended Dahntay Jones for his low blow on Biyombo. Lets see if the league holds Green to the same standards lol. My money is on nothing happens sadly.

lol, please
05-23-2016, 12:54 AM
Curious as to what non Warrior fans think.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 12:56 AM
no, he wants you to have children so he's obviously not dirty :facepalm:

Stunner
05-23-2016, 12:56 AM
He's annoying , he does a lot of moving screens and doesn't get called for it . Idk if I want to call him dirty he's just very very annoying

HandsOnTheWheel
05-23-2016, 12:57 AM
Not dirty, just childish.

HandsOnTheWheel
05-23-2016, 01:01 AM
Don't know what this thread is trying to prove.

dhopisthename
05-23-2016, 01:02 AM
yes

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 01:04 AM
Don't know what this thread is trying to prove.
Me neither.. i think a better question would be: How is Draymond Green not dirty? it's already reached the point where he is dirty. Also, those who are dirty tend to usually be annoying and childish. AKA, ron artest, dahntay Jones, Bruce Bowen, Lambeer.

WaDe03
05-23-2016, 01:07 AM
you never know. Lakers were up 3-1 vs Suns and Suns came back. I hope you're right but it's not like the Warriors are the Suns.. they are way better. they can beat anyone with ease if they are 100% locked in. We also give away the biggest leads ever in this league.. so I hope we can keep our rythyhm going into tomorrow and play as if we're down in the series. IDK if we can win game 5.. that will be tough. but we HAVE to absolutely win games 4/6.

KD won't let you guys lose 3 in a row. If he's as great as some believe this is his time to step up and prove it. Russell has to continue to play smart as well.

HandsOnTheWheel
05-23-2016, 01:15 AM
Me neither.. i think a better question would be: How is Draymond Green not dirty? it's already reached the point where he is dirty. Also, those who are dirty tend to usually be annoying and childish. AKA, ron artest, dahntay Jones, Bruce Bowen, Lambeer.

True but then there are the low key ones like KG. In all honestly I just didn't want to say what the op wanted to hear but I guess it's trending away from that lol.

Redrum187
05-23-2016, 01:30 AM
Curious as to what non Warrior fans think.

You wanted to know what non Warriors fans think... so you vote in the poll?

Saddletramp
05-23-2016, 01:42 AM
You wanted to know what non Warriors fans think... so you vote in the poll?

Sneaky guy weighing down that scale.


Of course Green is dirty. The whole world is catching up.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 02:02 AM
You wanted to know what non Warriors fans think... so you vote in the poll?

Lmao, he's priceless. he also said Green's kick was caused by gravity. Idk if he knows what gravity does.

Raps08-09 Champ
05-23-2016, 02:17 AM
Even if you take out this kick, he does things on a regular basis that doesn't pass as a nice guy.

prodigy
05-23-2016, 02:19 AM
He's annoying , he does a lot of moving screens and doesn't get called for it . Idk if I want to call him dirty he's just very very annoying

this, He runs his mouth too much. I love trash talking but the kid just doesn't stop. Sometimes I think he cares more about that then playing basketball.

sf-fanatic
05-23-2016, 02:36 AM
I would say his will to win is borderline insane and sometimes he will use questionable tactics and overstep the boundary. I wouldnt call him dirty like going out there with the intent to injure though. I don't think his game 2 knee was intentional but I do think his game 3 kick was intentional. This is coming from a big Warrior and Draymond Green fan. You guys are lying when you say you want Draymond Green kicked out of the league. He is exciting and is good for the league unless you want everyone with no personality and acting like robots.

chipurmunki
05-23-2016, 02:38 AM
childish, whiny, immature, loud, obnoxious, and absolutely dirty. he's been dirty since he came into the league, i didn't need to see a blatant, hard, unapologetic kick in the groin to know that. and his postgame comments? he's 100% trash. i don't give 2 craps about the thunder, so it's not homerism.

@sf_fanatic
there's quite a large gap between 'acting like robots' and 'fun personality.' your comments are pedantic and prone to exaggeration. you think kicks in the groin are fun and entertaining, not acted out like on tv but in real life. most of us did too at some point in our lives, but there is nothing 'good for the league' about the charade and mockery of the game he routinely engages in. i absolutely would not miss the douchetard for a second if he was out of the league by whatever means.

sf-fanatic
05-23-2016, 03:03 AM
childish, whiny, immature, loud, obnoxious, and absolutely dirty. he's been dirty since he came into the league, i didn't need to see a blatant, hard, unapologetic kick in the groin to know that. and his postgame comments? he's 100% trash. i don't give 2 craps about the thunder, so it's not homerism.

@sf_fanatic
there's quite a large gap between 'acting like robots' and 'fun personality.' your comments are pedantic and prone to exaggeration. you think kicks in the groin are fun and entertaining, not acted out like on tv but in real life. most of us did too at some point in our lives, but there is nothing 'good for the league' about the charade and mockery of the game he routinely engages in. i absolutely would not miss the douchetard for a second if he was out of the league by whatever means.

Everyone says he whines but for all the dumb things that he said when did he not accept responsibility for a loss ? Has he publicly blamed a loss on officials ? Arguing with officials is an art and some master it better than others. For as much as Draymond argues, don't you think theres a reason why hes not getting as many technicals as people thinks he should be ? Some have said most of the time he is very polite when talking to a ref.

And as a non-warrior fan, I'm sure everyone hopes Draymond gets kicked out of the league lol. That's not a hard decision to make.

ClassyAshyLarry
05-23-2016, 03:18 AM
Everyone says he whines but for all the dumb things that he said when did he not accept responsibility for a loss ? Has he publicly blamed a loss on officials ? Arguing with officials is an art and some master it better than others. For as much as Draymond argues, don't you think theres a reason why hes not getting as many technicals as people thinks he should be ? Some have said most of the time he is very polite when talking to a ref.

And as a non-warrior fan, I'm sure everyone hopes Draymond gets kicked out of the league lol. That's not a hard decision to make.

I love Draymond Green, but come on lol. "Arguing with officials is an art" is BS. He's just an outspoken guy that gets caught up in the heat of the moment. I think the guys that don't argue much and pick their spots are smarter than the people that bark at every call.

More-Than-Most
05-23-2016, 03:24 AM
Everyone says he whines but for all the dumb things that he said when did he not accept responsibility for a loss ? Has he publicly blamed a loss on officials ? Arguing with officials is an art and some master it better than others. For as much as Draymond argues, don't you think theres a reason why hes not getting as many technicals as people thinks he should be ? Some have said most of the time he is very polite when talking to a ref.

And as a non-warrior fan, I'm sure everyone hopes Draymond gets kicked out of the league lol. That's not a hard decision to make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxTwd2G1hdk

This isnt an art man... This is the refs doing everything in their power to ignore the stuff he says and it happens all the time with him.

Stunner
05-23-2016, 03:44 AM
[emoji24][emoji24]

https://youtu.be/2l8GW1rTSUk

prodigy
05-23-2016, 04:39 AM
I would say his will to win is borderline insane and sometimes he will use questionable tactics and overstep the boundary. I wouldnt call him dirty like going out there with the intent to injure though. I don't think his game 2 knee was intentional but I do think his game 3 kick was intentional. This is coming from a big Warrior and Draymond Green fan. You guys are lying when you say you want Draymond Green kicked out of the league. He is exciting and is good for the league unless you want everyone with no personality and acting like robots.

Got a question for you. do you think Delly is a Dirty player?

GoferKing_
05-23-2016, 04:47 AM
Close this thread.

Why? Maybe ask to close your thread.

GoferKing_
05-23-2016, 04:50 AM
Close your own thread bro

Laker Legend42
05-23-2016, 05:09 AM
I wouldn't say dirty but that kick was intentional. You can tell by the way he turned and looked and no one had said anything yet. He looked like that guilty kid with the 'what' face.

sf-fanatic
05-23-2016, 05:50 AM
Got a question for you. do you think Delly is a Dirty player?

Everyone has a different definition of dirty. I don't think Green goes in there intending to injure, but Green will do weird things to gain an advantage.

Let's be honest a shot to the groin wont injure a lot for a long period of time. I don't know what current player to use as an example. But if Green were to start diving at Yao Ming's foot or Greg Oden's and Brandon Roy's knees multiple times a game in a series. Yes, I would consider him dirty. The knee in game 2 was unintentional but the game 3 kick looked intentional. If Westbrook were to squeeze Currys balls while shooting a 3, I wouldnt call it dirty. I would just call him weird.

In the NFL, players are often kicking and grabbing at the balls/genitals in scrums for any advantage of a loose ball and no one is calling them dirty.

sf-fanatic
05-23-2016, 05:54 AM
This might be an interesting point, but do you think Green might be targeting Adams for his "controversial" (what some might think is racist) remarks against the Warrior guards ? I'm curious if Adams will be a target for players in the league. I don't think its anything you can say as a white player and expect to get away with a sport populated by blacks.

Saddletramp
05-23-2016, 05:59 AM
This might be an interesting point, but do you think Green might be targeting Adams for his "controversial" (what some might think is racist) remarks against the Warrior guards ? I'm curious if Adams will be a target for players in the league. I don't think its anything you can say as a white player and expect to get away with a sport populated by blacks.

if he is then he is mentally weak. Adams got under his skin without even meaning to.

Saddletramp
05-23-2016, 06:09 AM
Everyone has a different definition of dirty. I don't think Green goes in there intending to injure, but Green will do weird things to gain an advantage

Like ball kicking?.


Let's be honest a shot to the groin wont injure a lot for a long period of time.

Ever been kicked dead on in the groin? Go get someone to do it to you and report back with how it "won't injure a lot for a long period of time."


I don't know what current player to use as an example. But if Green were to start diving at Yao Ming's foot or Greg Oden's and Brandon Roy's knees multiple times a game in a series. Yes, I would consider him dirty. The knee in game 2 was unintentional but the game 3 kick looked intentional. If Westbrook were to squeeze Currys balls while shooting a 3, I wouldnt call it dirty. I would just call him weird.

If Westbrook did that, I'd call him a sexual molester. And he'd be kicked out of the game or possibly the league. Oh, and to clarify for you, that's a dirty move. Can't get much dirtier.


In the NFL, players are often kicking and grabbing at the balls/genitals in scrums for any advantage of a loose ball and no one is calling them dirty.

NFL is a contact sport. It shouldn't be happening but it does and every player knows it and there's really no way to police it. Grabbing the bits in a scrum in a football game is different from kicking some guy square in the nards during a basketball game.

Your guy is dirty. This just further validates the fact.

ewing
05-23-2016, 06:20 AM
Him and Delly should go bowling

Sportsguy9695
05-23-2016, 06:43 AM
I think he should have the choice of either getting suspended for then ext game or get the same thing done to him before next game

Sportsguy9695
05-23-2016, 06:46 AM
but after what adams called the warriors im not surprised. if i remember right adams called the warriors little monkeys earlier in the series

More-Than-Most
05-23-2016, 07:04 AM
Is water Wet?

NYKnickFanatic
05-23-2016, 07:38 AM
Damn, just watched Dahntay Jones' nut shot again. I must say, Green's looked way more intentional than Jones'. If they don't suspend Green, after just suspending Jones for his, the NBA is a joke.

eDush
05-23-2016, 08:43 AM
im surprised the Thunder have taken such a high road on this.

kudos to them for not smacking the **** out of Green. not saying that taking the 12th man off the bench and laying down the wood on Green for 1 play is a good thing... but 90s basketball would have seen Green flattened a few times to make him think of doing that **** again.

He better be suspended or I doubt they take the high road next time and **** will get real... I still dont think he will be suspended because the league sucks his dick so much.
Them taken the high road is something they learn from the Warriors, a classy organization:clap:. And Green will be suspended to insure Durant will stay in OKC. It's part of the big plan for a small market team to win it all :nod:

eDush
05-23-2016, 08:47 AM
but after what adams called the warriors im not surprised. if i remember right adams called the warriors little monkeys earlier in the seriesMonkeys don't kick people in the nuts....they just run fast. Let's drop the reference for once shall we...:pity:

eDush
05-23-2016, 08:55 AM
The league suspended Dahntay Jones for his low blow on Biyombo. Lets see if the league holds Green to the same standards lol. My money is on nothing happens sadly.Maybe they thought Biyombo was really hurt while Adams was pretending to be hurt like flopping.

eDush
05-23-2016, 08:57 AM
Flashbolt, I could definitely be wrong but I think the winner of this next game will win the series. If you guys go up 3-1 it's a wrap.and if the Warriors win...they will win the series? I like those odds now that we are down :nod:

Hawkeye15
05-23-2016, 09:28 AM
The nut shot was for sure on purpose, however Green said everything right after the fact, so I highly doubt he gets suspended. He is becoming borderline dirty at this point however. He just talked **** after he hit Adams there in game 2. I get that Green is very demonstrative in his actions, and an emotional player, so it's tough to gauge what is malicious, and what is just him being him. But that is a straight up nut shot. Not cool

Hawkeye15
05-23-2016, 09:29 AM
I think he is bordering it, but not there yet.

ewing
05-23-2016, 09:46 AM
The nut shot was for sure on purpose, however Green said everything right after the fact, so I highly doubt he gets suspended. He is becoming borderline dirty at this point however. He just talked **** after he hit Adams there in game 2. I get that Green is very demonstrative in his actions, and an emotional player, so it's tough to gauge what is malicious, and what is just him being him. But that is a straight up nut shot. Not cool


you don't get credit for saying the right things after you intentionally kick someone in the nuts. I am against most suspensions but you cant just go around cheap shoting people in the nuts

WaDe03
05-23-2016, 10:24 AM
and if the Warriors win...they will win the series? I like those odds now that we are down :nod:

Yep.

lamzoka
05-23-2016, 10:32 AM
He did it on purpose. But no way the NBA will suspend him. Just like Lebron never been warn for flopping.

Btw Dantay Jones is suspended for "accidentally" punching Bismack Biyambo in the nuts

Tony_Starks
05-23-2016, 10:35 AM
Can't suspend Green because A) there's no way to definitively prove it was intentional and more importantly B) it will decide the fate of the series and cost the NBA lots of money.

Big fine, Warriors still lose the good ol fashion way.

IndyRealist
05-23-2016, 10:55 AM
Did KG kick anyone in the balls? I don't recall him ever doing something like this. Especially twice in the same series. Green needs to GTFO of the NBA if he keeps pulling this ****. That's even illegal in Hockey.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRLsCQIBks

Hawkeye15
05-23-2016, 11:05 AM
you don't get credit for saying the right things after you intentionally kick someone in the nuts. I am against most suspensions but you cant just go around cheap shoting people in the nuts

I don't mean you get credit for it, he legit came off like he had no idea he hit Adams in the nuts. Now, whether he did or not, I have no clue. He is so crazy, I doubt he even knew he did it, however, he obviously had to know he made contact with Adams.

I highly doubt they suspend Green.

YAALREADYKNO
05-23-2016, 11:12 AM
The kick was exaggerated but he won't be suspended

Chronz
05-23-2016, 11:55 AM
In today's nba, he's the closest thing to dirty.

eDush
05-23-2016, 12:05 PM
The nut shot was for sure on purpose, however Green said everything right after the fact, so I highly doubt he gets suspended. He is becoming borderline dirty at this point however. He just talked **** after he hit Adams there in game 2. I get that Green is very demonstrative in his actions, and an emotional player, so it's tough to gauge what is malicious, and what is just him being him. But that is a straight up nut shot. Not coolWell what would you do if he call you a monkey? ...you think a about that before you accuse someone of being dirty as oppose to say swift justice.

Vinylman
05-23-2016, 12:06 PM
I don't want to see him get suspended because if he does then GS has an excuse if they lose the series.

MTL_123
05-23-2016, 12:12 PM
I don't want to see him get suspended because if he does then GS has an excuse if they lose the series.

So true

IKnowHoops
05-23-2016, 12:23 PM
Can we compare Green to KG? KG was known as an illegal screener who played pretty dirty. He got the "plays with heart" excuse a lot. Both are applauded for D.

Nut shots put you in a whole other category.

kdspurman
05-23-2016, 12:24 PM
Well what would you do if he call you a monkey? ...you think a about that before you accuse someone of being dirty as oppose to say swift justice.

It's a completely different meaning how Adams said it. I highly doubt Green was thinking that anyway when it happened.

It'd be pretty dumb to try and get some sort of retaliation with all the cameras on him at that time. He just got caught up in the moment, probably frustrated, and made a dirty play which he should be penalized for IMO.

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 12:29 PM
He's got that Rodman level loose screw that makes him intimidating

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Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 12:31 PM
i cant argue with a suspension. if you think there is any chance it wasn't a on purpose though i think you have let him play though.
Are you joking

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Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 12:37 PM
It's a shame to see such a good player be such a cheap shot artist. There is no room in the league for a guy like this. The NBA should put him on a very short leash and tell him he'll be gone for good if he doesn't clean it up ASAP

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ewing
05-23-2016, 12:43 PM
Are you joking

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no. if you think it was intentional he should be suspended. it took me more then a few looks to be 100% on it but i think he did it on purpose and it warrants a suspension

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 12:45 PM
He's an egregiously dirty player. If you watch him a lot you know that better than anyone.

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Tony_Starks
05-23-2016, 12:49 PM
Not dirty.

One of my favorite players.

Where's psycho T at? THAT guy is dirty!

Hawkeye15
05-23-2016, 12:51 PM
Well what would you do if he call you a monkey? ...you think a about that before you accuse someone of being dirty as oppose to say swift justice.

I wouldn't use physical response that can hurt someone, because I am a grown adult. My maturity level is not that of an 11 year old.

Besides, in today's world, shouldn't Green just go tell the ref that Adams hurt his feelings, then we can all talk about it on social media and rip Adam's apart? That is how everything else works, am I right?

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 12:52 PM
I love how people need to see X number of nasty incidents to decide he's dirty. Most of us wouldn't even consider doing any of these things even once.

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lavell12
05-23-2016, 12:56 PM
For those that say they cannot suspend him b/c it will cost the Warriors the series, remember when they suspended the Suns players for nothing to cost them the series against the Spurs?

FreshestTakes
05-23-2016, 12:56 PM
I lost a lot of respect for green.

You just don't do that to another man! He needs a suspension.

kdspurman
05-23-2016, 12:59 PM
For those that say they cannot suspend him b/c it will cost the Warriors the series, remember when they suspended the Suns players for nothing to cost them the series against the Spurs?

Well, it wasn't for "nothing". It sucked that it happened, but it was very much a rule they had in place.

I do agree with you though, it shouldn't matter if it impacts the Warriors. He should have realized the situation he and his team were in before doing something like that.

kdspurman
05-23-2016, 01:00 PM
In today's nba, he's the closest thing to dirty.

this pretty much

eDush
05-23-2016, 01:02 PM
Well what would you do if he call you a monkey? ...you think a about that before you accuse someone of being dirty as oppose to say swift justice.

I wouldn't use physical response that can hurt someone, because I am a grown adult. My maturity level is not that of an 11 year old.

Besides, in today's world, shouldn't Green just go tell the ref that Adams hurt his feelings, then we can all talk about it on social media and rip Adam's apart? That is how everything else works, am I right?
First off, I would feel honored if he kick my nuts since I am a big fan of his. Secondly, there is a decent chance he lied when he said he didn't know what he said would be taken the wrong way. I have an Aussie friend who knew exactly what that means and he never been to the U.S. unlike Adam has but when Green said what he did was an accident...he's lying?!?

Vee-Rex
05-23-2016, 01:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bUhrzIlVFA

Dwyane Wade got suspended 1 game for that kick on Sessions. Dahntay Jones got suspended 1 game for his hit on Biyombo.

There is absolutely no way Green should not get a game. It'll confirm so much about the league if they let him get away with it (like they let him get away with other crap).

chi-townlove1
05-23-2016, 01:05 PM
Absolutely not. He's a gym class try hard, and I ****ing love him for it.

Slug3
05-23-2016, 01:07 PM
I love how people need to see X number of nasty incidents to decide he's dirty. Most of us wouldn't even consider doing any of these things even once.

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I think its cause sometimes we can't really tell intent on a play. So if it happens once or even twice we tend to give the player the benefit of doubt. But when a pattern start happening and they keep doing things over and over you can kind of see them for what they are.

Firefistus
05-23-2016, 01:08 PM
For those that say they cannot suspend him b/c it will cost the Warriors the series, remember when they suspended the Suns players for nothing to cost them the series against the Spurs?

That's funny, because a Jazz fan will tell you of the time Malone Elbowed David Robinson in the head, Robinson got knocked out, and Malone got suspended for a game and the Jazz lost that series in 7 games. No one remembers the losers, only winners.


More so though, if Green doesn't get suspended the Thunder are going to be PISSED. AND if Green even spits in the wrong direction it will cause a fight. He has to be suspended at this point if for nothing else than to keep the peace in a very volatile series.

Hawkeye15
05-23-2016, 01:10 PM
First off, I would feel honored if he kick my nuts since I am a big fan of his. Secondly, there is a decent chance he lied when he said he didn't know what he said would be taken the wrong way. I have an Aussie friend who knew exactly what that means and he never been to the U.S. unlike Adam has but when Green said what he did was an accident...he's lying?!?

haha, that is funny dude, I like it

I don't know if Green knew he was going nut shot or not, the flail is meant to attract extra attention, and he knew where he was. Is what it is, he kicked a dude in the nuts, and is known for being an irritable, physical player. He shouldn't be suspended imo, but a fine is coming I would guess.

lamzoka
05-23-2016, 01:10 PM
It's a shame to see such a good player be such a cheap shot artist. There is no room in the league for a guy like this. The NBA should put him on a very short leash and tell him he'll be gone for good if he doesn't clean it up ASAP

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There is no room in the league for Dramond Green?

WaDe03
05-23-2016, 01:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bUhrzIlVFA

Dwyane Wade got suspended 1 game for that kick on Sessions. Dahntay Jones got suspended 1 game for his hit on Biyombo.

There is absolutely no way Green should not get a game. It'll confirm so much about the league if they let him get away with it (like they let him get away with other crap).

Yea as I said earlier they should probably give him 2 or 3 because of the force behind it and it was definitely intentional. He'll get one because it's the playoffs though which is good for Warriors fans.

MTL_123
05-23-2016, 01:26 PM
watch hes going to get suspended and surprisingly westbrook KD and Adamns are all going to be in foul trouble. I wonder why :rolleyes:

koreancabbage
05-23-2016, 01:26 PM
First off, I would feel honored if he kick my nuts since I am a big fan of his. Secondly, there is a decent chance he lied when he said he didn't know what he said would be taken the wrong way. I have an Aussie friend who knew exactly what that means and he never been to the U.S. unlike Adam has but when Green said what he did was an accident...he's lying


Lol at Draymond thinking he Didn't know he kicked him but he didn't accidentally kick outwards after a fake follow through.

The play was already dead. He jumped, lost the ball (right into an OKC players hands), landed, and then jumped and kicked. If he were do a follow through while being fouled on the initial bump, it would have been on the initial jump when he lost the ball. Not when he landed without the ball and "attempting" to shoot with nothing in his hands. I even asked people who don't watch basketball in the office and saw it for the first time - same conclusion - it was with intent and definitely not accidental.

I don't know if Stephen A Smith even shot a basketball or know the mechanics of shooting a jumper with a leg kick out follow through but if u watch it closely enough, thats not a natural basketball play, before or after the whistle. No ball in hands to shoot but he still jumped up afterwards and pretended to shoot with an exaggerated kick follow-through with full force.

Yup - Green is a liar. Of course if he said he kicked him on purpose he would be suspended automatically. Lol come on now edush. Him not saying that gives the NBA Commissioner more to investigate than easily handing out a suspension. Of course he has to lie In this situation.

He didn't even apologize in his statements after the game. When accidents happen u apologize. Unless Green is a bigger douche than he already seems.

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 01:33 PM
Completely dirty play and dirty player. Warriors fans should stop excusing his action with the "oh he plays with such heart" there's a fine line between being a punk and playing with passion.

If Jones was suspended for his actions against Biyombo that looked 50 times less on purpose and less painful than what Green did, Green should get minimum one game of suspension.

If the NBA doesn't do that, it will be obvious they want the ratings and help the Warriors. Anyone that looks at that and says it was unintentional is clearly a homer. Poor Steve Kerr had to lie to the press like that, he didn't even believe himself.

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 01:36 PM
Warriors fans should be happy with just a 1 game suspension, which it probably will be. They could definitely give him more, he put a lot of force behind that and it was clearly intentional. This will take a lot of the fun out of the series.

Exactly.

The amount of force he put on that kick, compared with the Jones "punch" or whatever, deserves more than one game.

RCarlson85
05-23-2016, 01:37 PM
He couldn't have made that look much more intentional if he tried IMO. There's no reason for his leg to kick up like that on that play. It's not like he was driving in for a layup or dunk or jumping for a rebound and a knee or foot happens to hit someone in the nuts on the way up. I have no doubt that this was 110% intentional.

IndyRealist
05-23-2016, 01:38 PM
Nut shots put you in a whole other category.

KG hit people in the nuts. I posted a link earlier.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRLsCQIBks

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 01:39 PM
Can't suspend Green because A) there's no way to definitively prove it was intentional and more importantly B) it will decide the fate of the series and cost the NBA lots of money.

Big fine, Warriors still lose the good ol fashion way.

Can't prove that? LMAO.
How about the Jones one? Again, if they suspended Jones for that, Green should be suspended.

RCarlson85
05-23-2016, 01:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bUhrzIlVFA

Dwyane Wade got suspended 1 game for that kick on Sessions. Dahntay Jones got suspended 1 game for his hit on Biyombo.

There is absolutely no way Green should not get a game. It'll confirm so much about the league if they let him get away with it (like they let him get away with other crap).

I think Green's kick was clearly more intentional than either of those two plays you mentioned too. He certainly deserves to be suspended for a game.

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 01:42 PM
There is no room in the league for Dramond Green?
For a guy like this it says. If he decides to be a civilized human being he's more than welcome

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gaughan333
05-23-2016, 01:43 PM
Everyone says he whines but for all the dumb things that he said when did he not accept responsibility for a loss ? Has he publicly blamed a loss on officials ? Arguing with officials is an art and some master it better than others. For as much as Draymond argues, don't you think theres a reason why hes not getting as many technicals as people thinks he should be ? Some have said most of the time he is very polite when talking to a ref.

And as a non-warrior fan, I'm sure everyone hopes Draymond gets kicked out of the league lol. That's not a hard decision to make.

This sounds so much like a total homer just trying to rationalize the antics of this clown.

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 01:44 PM
Lol at Draymond thinking he Didn't know he kicked him but he didn't accidentally kick outwards after a fake follow through.

The play was already dead. He jumped, lost the ball (right into an OKC players hands), landed, and then jumped and kicked. If he were do a follow through while being fouled on the initial bump, it would have been on the initial jump when he lost the ball. Not when he landed without the ball and "attempting" to shoot with nothing in his hands. I even asked people who don't watch basketball in the office and saw it for the first time - same conclusion - it was with intent and definitely not accidental.

I don't know if Stephen A Smith even shot a basketball or know the mechanics of shooting a jumper with a leg kick out follow through but if u watch it closely enough, thats not a natural basketball play, before or after the whistle. No ball in hands to shoot but he still jumped up afterwards and pretended to shoot with an exaggerated kick follow-through with full force.

Yup - Green is a liar. Of course if he said he kicked him on purpose he would be suspended automatically. Lol come on now edush. Him not saying that gives the NBA Commissioner more to investigate than easily handing out a suspension. Of course he has to lie In this situation.

He didn't even apologize in his statements after the game. When accidents happen u apologize. Unless Green is a bigger douche than he already seems.

It's funny because Shaq, Barkley and Kenny said the same damn thing, "oh I don't think it was intentional, it was the follow thru" follow thru my balls, as you said the replay clearly shows when the right leg landed on the floor after the foul and he jumped again to give the kick.

mgjohnson7851
05-23-2016, 01:47 PM
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Draymond Green says comparisons to Dahntay Jones incident don't work because that was a "punch" and "a leg isn't the same as an arm"


:laugh: That's the worst way he could have ever tried to debunk the comparison.

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 01:48 PM
I really wanted the Thunder to put Nick Collison in the game and get some retaliation on Green. Just a hard foul to tell him "we are here and we saw what you did MF".

KD would pay the fine and everything is alright.

As for the thread; lol, please... It's obvious that he and Bogut are dirty players. Or as you want to call it, "full of will and heart to do whatever they need to do to win a game".

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 02:05 PM
:laugh: That's the worst way he could have ever tried to debunk the comparison.

Dude is a clown. I will lose so much respect for the NBA if they don't suspend this punk.

Saddletramp
05-23-2016, 02:12 PM
It's funny because Shaq, Barkley and Kenny said the same damn thing, "oh I don't think it was intentional, it was the follow thru" follow thru my balls, as you said the replay clearly shows when the right leg landed on the floor after the foul and he jumped again to give the kick.

Shaq also said if Jones got suspended, then so should Green. It's the same thing. Barkley was saying Green is too important to his team to be suspended and the rest of the guys shot him down on that real quick.

Saddletramp
05-23-2016, 02:14 PM
:laugh: That's the worst way he could have ever tried to debunk the comparison.

He's either trying so hard to downplay this because he knows he ****ed up or he's an even bigger idiot than I thought.

Probably both.

Stunner
05-23-2016, 02:25 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/StuJackson32/status/734588300414062592


Stu Jackson
Stu Jackson‏ @StuJackson32

Never observed a player jump stop then have reason kick his leg upward into a groin area @NBA players are great athletes and know body moves
May 22, 2016, 10:34:33 PM


LMAOO

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/724348591049871360/video/1

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 02:30 PM
Shaq also said if Jones got suspended, then so should Green. It's the same thing. Barkley was saying Green is too important to his team to be suspended and the rest of the guys shot him down on that real quick.

Didn't watch that part, I'm glad they agree that he should be suspended.

But I don't expect a lot from guys who are judges on a Dunk Competition involving $100K and judge dunks like "oh you are from Phoenix so Imma give you 2 points for that", "oh this was a nice dunk Imma give you 95" 10 minutes later, "THE BEST DUNK OF THE NIGHT, OH MY GOD, CRAZY, Imma give you a 94"...

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 02:46 PM
sf-fanatic just compared NFL to NBA in terms of physical activity... this is hopeless. In baseball, pushing a guy is considered a "fight." In the NBA, pushing a guy is considered part of the game. Someone in NFL hitting another in the groin is completely reasonable and expected because they can attack all parts of the body. Someone in NBA hitting another in the groin is not reasonable and expected. What you have is Green being Green. An immature and dirty player. I've never seen Green kick his leg upwards like that anyway.. Adams fouled his arm and that was before Draymond was even in a jumping motion. If the league does not suspend him, I'm not watching NBA again.. kills my passion to know that they are trying to help another team.

t_money25
05-23-2016, 02:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bUhrzIlVFA

Dwyane Wade got suspended 1 game for that kick on Sessions. Dahntay Jones got suspended 1 game for his hit on Biyombo.

There is absolutely no way Green should not get a game. It'll confirm so much about the league if they let him get away with it (like they let him get away with other crap).

I'm with you on this. I watched it a dozen times just to make sure. IMO the only question here is how many games will he be suspended as opposed to will he get suspended at all. The Jones and Wade situations weren't as blatant as what Green did yesterday....

James Harden was suspended for a kick to the nuts too

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2382797-james-harden-suspended-1-game-for-kicking-lebron-james-latest-details-reaction

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 03:19 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/StuJackson32/status/734588300414062592


Stu Jackson
Stu Jackson‏ @StuJackson32

Never observed a player jump stop then have reason kick his leg upward into a groin area @NBA players are great athletes and know body moves
May 22, 2016, 10:34:33 PM


LMAOO

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/724348591049871360/video/1


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/724348536603561984/pu/vid/180x320/bX5ezT3CtEsvB4kD.mp4

Thanks for that. In no way that's a normal motion.

It just shows more prove that he is a d-bag, Motiejunas and him were going at each other all series long and clearly he wanted to kick him in the nuts but he missed blatantly.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 03:21 PM
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/724348536603561984/pu/vid/180x320/bX5ezT3CtEsvB4kD.mp4

Thanks for that. In no way that's a normal motion.

It just shows more prove that he is a d-bag, Motiejunas and him were going at each other all series long and clearly he wanted to kick him in the nuts but he missed blatantly.

Did he just try to soccer kick someone? WTF??

GoferKing_
05-23-2016, 03:23 PM
Can't suspend Green because A) there's no way to definitively prove it was intentional and more importantly B) it will decide the fate of the series and cost the NBA lots of money.

Big fine, Warriors still lose the good ol fashion way.

How can you not prove it was intentional? Dude did you see his leg? It is an unnatural move what he did there. If someone doesn't see this as intentional he is blind.

KnicksFan4Years
05-23-2016, 03:41 PM
Even questioning the intentionality of it shows you how shady that was!

My daughter (5th grade) said that was bad, he should be thrown out.

Look, the NBA can spin it any way they want to, but when you suspend a guy for putting one foot over the foul line during an altercation, how in the world can you justify not suspending Green? When someone elbows someone above the shoulders (even accidentally) they get suspended. This was highly questionable at the best and blatantly deliberate at the worst. The NBA needs to suspend Green not only because it is the right thing to do, but also to send a message that this kind of play is not tolerated.

As for the NBA, the fix was in for Golden State last season when they came back against Memphis. Memphis was winning and beating them inside and Golden State could do little. But the NBA couldn't let their "MVP" get unceremoniously eliminated that early and easily, so the refs changed the way they called the games by swallowing the whistle inside and letting GS hack Memphis and "magically" the Warriors came back and won the series. After that, I knew the Warriors would win even when they were down against the LeBrons.

The last team to beat the NBA story line was the Dallas Mavericks who converted tough field goal after tough field goal and a lot that should have been And 1's. You can't fix it when they're hitting everything even when you foul them.

koreancabbage
05-23-2016, 03:45 PM
How can you not prove it was intentional? Dude did you see his leg? It is an unnatural move what he did there. If someone doesn't see this as intentional he is blind.

they are just ignorant or too prideful to admit what they saw.

and yes he should be suspended. you put yourself in a situation to do something so dumb to jeopardize yourself and your team. pay the price. not saying that they will but he should be

If they do suspend Green, and OKC goes on to win the series he's gonna be the scapegoat of the century. LOL.

KnicksFan4Years
05-23-2016, 04:05 PM
I used to like Green in college and followed him into the NBA, but as him and Golden State have gotten "better" I have soured on him. He is a dirty player and the NBA allows him to be in order to support the narrative that he is such whiz defender that allows the Warriors smallball attack to work because he can "defend" taller opponents. He is good, and I take nothing from him, but if I was allowed to be as physical and dirty as him I could be a decent defender in the NBA also.

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 04:08 PM
I used to like Green in college and followed him into the NBA, but as him and Golden State have gotten "better" I have soured on him. He is a dirty player and the NBA allows him to be in order to support the narrative that he is such whiz defender that allows the Warriors smallball attack to work because he can "defend" taller opponents. He is good, and I take nothing from him, but if I was allowed to be as physical and dirty as him I could be a decent defender in the NBA also.

lol, please would argue that he's just doing whatever it takes to win.

celticsman2009
05-23-2016, 04:36 PM
Not dirty, but just a bit douchey.

smith&wesson
05-23-2016, 04:38 PM
he is a dirty player... Great player but has an immature mind.

Chronz
05-23-2016, 04:48 PM
lol, please would argue that he's just doing whatever it takes to win.
That's what heart looks like bro. Certainly better than flopping

KnicksFan4Years
05-23-2016, 05:08 PM
lol, please would argue that he's just doing whatever it takes to win.

"whatever it takes" is often a line of thinking that leads people to commit crimes, etc. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Green was not a dirty player in college. He played hard, was skilled and had above average BBIQ.

In the NBA he has improved his skills, but to physically compete with bigger, taller players at his position he has resorted to being a dirty player. The Knicks playoff run a few years ago was halted by Garnett nearly pulling Melo's arm out of it's socket.

I guarantee you if it was Randy Foye that came off the bench and kicked Steph Curry the way Green did to Adams, Foye would have a) been thrown out of the game b)been vilified by the media/analysts c) NBA would have immediately made a statement admonishing the play and gave the hint of impending suspension d)suspended Foye for multiple games.

Dirty is as dirty does. Green hasn't been dirty for just the playoffs or just this game, he's been becoming an increasingly dirty player since entering the NBA. Like I said before, I rooted for Green at Michigan State. I was hoping the Knicks would find a way to draft him when he came out of college. I have soured on him because he has resorted to becoming a dirty player.

lol, please
05-23-2016, 05:28 PM
Absolutely not. He's a gym class try hard, and I ****ing love him for it.

:clap:

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 05:49 PM
:clap:

But if Curry got socked in the nuts twice by Foye you would be emailing Adam Silver... let's face it. He needs to be suspended because this isn't the first time he's pulled this crap. 2/2 times he has hit Adams in the groin. Something's got to give.

lol, please
05-23-2016, 07:02 PM
But if Curry got socked in the nuts twice by Foye you would be emailing Adam Silver... let's face it. He needs to be suspended because this isn't the first time he's pulled this crap. 2/2 times he has hit Adams in the groin. Something's got to give.

Not sure how that's the same thing, and how is he going to kick him in the balls when Curry is usually around the perimeter and not battling inside like a PF. If Foye dives at Currys knees or ankles knowing he has injured them both in his career then heck yes he better find himself working at a Taco Bell somewhere, we don't need that here in this league.

I love how you act like you wouldn't be here defending Green if he was on the Thunder though...

nastynice
05-23-2016, 07:14 PM
sf-fanatic just compared NFL to NBA in terms of physical activity... this is hopeless. In baseball, pushing a guy is considered a "fight." In the NBA, pushing a guy is considered part of the game. Someone in NFL hitting another in the groin is completely reasonable and expected because they can attack all parts of the body. Someone in NBA hitting another in the groin is not reasonable and expected. What you have is Green being Green. An immature and dirty player. I've never seen Green kick his leg upwards like that anyway.. Adams fouled his arm and that was before Draymond was even in a jumping motion. If the league does not suspend him, I'm not watching NBA again.. kills my passion to know that they are trying to help another team.

Before I was kinda neutral. Now I hope they don't suspend him, just so u stop watching basketball!

ManRam
05-23-2016, 07:17 PM
it's woj-official: he's not getting suspended.

and especially after jones got suspended for a much less egregious play, we have the most obvious example that i can remember of a star getting preferential treatment from the nba. this is a HORRIBLE look for them...especially, again, because of dahntay.

eDush
05-23-2016, 07:18 PM
I don't want to see him get suspended because if he does then GS has an excuse if they lose the series.

So trueThat soo bs! If he gets suspended and they lose...he be the scapegoat for why they lost and will never live it down. Only Heat fans can't see the forest to the trees....

koreancabbage
05-23-2016, 07:20 PM
That soo bs! If he gets suspended and they lose...he be the scapegoat for why they lost and will never live it down. Only Heat fans can't see the forest to the trees....

well you don't have to worry about that anymore LOL

he's not suspended.

kdspurman
05-23-2016, 07:21 PM
The NBA is a joke with their favoritism lol they're setting a dangerous example

ManRam
05-23-2016, 07:24 PM
as i said in the other thread: this decision is the single most egregious case of preferential treatment for stars from the nba that i can recall. after the dahntay suspension, this had to be a suspension.

very roger goodellian with the absurdly inconsistent and make-it-up-as-we-go-along

Green_Monster
05-23-2016, 07:25 PM
Holy ****, that's awful. They're basically saying that your discipline depends on how good you are.

lol, please
05-23-2016, 07:30 PM
The NBA is a joke with their favoritism lol they're setting a dangerous example

Can you prove it was intentional/malicious though? That's all i'm asking.

kdspurman
05-23-2016, 07:31 PM
I remember Zach Randolph being suspended after Adams pushed him and he pushed him back and made contact with his neck. They suspended him for a game 7. I don't see how what Green did isn't far worse.

kdspurman
05-23-2016, 07:34 PM
Can you prove it was intentional/malicious though? That's all i'm asking.

Surely this isn't the first time the league had to determine if there was intent. There's no way of really knowing sometimes. But Green has a reputation of questionable plays, and that should be factored.

Green gets away with a lot, has all year. Maaaaybe if it was the regular season, he gets suspended a game, but even that is questionable. If that was someone from another team, it's a suspension, and 1 that doesn't take all day to decide

Stunner
05-23-2016, 07:36 PM
And of course he isn't suspended smh

Green_Monster
05-23-2016, 07:37 PM
Can you prove it was intentional/malicious though? That's all i'm asking.

Even though I think it's quite obviously intentional, that hasn't mattered in the past. Kelly Olynyk pulled on Kevin Love's arm in the playoffs last year and got suspended for the first game this year. Do you think Olynyk purposely tried to injure his arm, or did he just pull Love away so his teammate could reach the ball first? Clearly, intent didn't matter to the NBA then.

lol, please
05-23-2016, 07:37 PM
Surely this isn't the first time the league had to determine if there was intent. There's no way of really knowing sometimes. But Green has a reputation of questionable plays, and that should be factored.

Green gets away with a lot, has all year. Maaaaybe if it was the regular season, he gets suspended a game, but even that is questionable. If that was someone from another team, it's a suspension, and 1 that doesn't take all day to decide

I guess I just have a problem with people saying "oh if this is another player and another team it's an automatic suspension".

I hate favoritism and "star calls" as they call it, I just don't see this as being that here.

At what point are you being objective about calls as a league, and at what point are you blatantly being purposely inconsistent?

:confused:

LA_Raiders
05-23-2016, 07:41 PM
It was not that bad. I would not suspend him. I have seen worst and get away with it....

sf-fanatic
05-23-2016, 07:42 PM
Surely this isn't the first time the league had to determine if there was intent. There's no way of really knowing sometimes. But Green has a reputation of questionable plays, and that should be factored.

Green gets away with a lot, has all year. Maaaaybe if it was the regular season, he gets suspended a game, but even that is questionable. If that was someone from another team, it's a suspension, and 1 that doesn't take all day to decide

It seems like everyone is hating on Green and not one person brought up the context. Jones incident also occurred with 10 seconds left in the 4th quarter of a 15 point game (a game which is already decided). Green's incident happened midway through the 2nd quarter in a game that was within 2 at that time. I think the NBA really tries to look at the argument of both sides. Honestly, I think Green's game 2 incident was accidental and Green's game 3 "looked" intentional. Green pushes the rules and might be turning into a headcase but I dont see many clear examples of "dirty" plays with intent to injure.

NYKnickFanatic
05-23-2016, 07:49 PM
Hahaha, NBA back at it again.

Maybe it's just me, but Jones' "punch" did not look as bad as Green's kick.

Can't believe they didn't suspend him. ****ing nuts.

If he would have been ejected from the game, I could understand the no suspension.

MTL_123
05-23-2016, 07:52 PM
this is crazy lol

How can you not get suspended for that

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 08:55 PM
Hahaha, NBA back at it again.

Maybe it's just me, but Jones' "punch" did not look as bad as Green's kick.

Can't believe they didn't suspend him. ****ing nuts.

If he would have been ejected from the game, I could understand the no suspension.

IDK how can anyone say Jones "punch" was intentional and worthy of a suspension and Green wasn't.

It's amazing honestly. Just the NBA doing business. As always.

CHANGO
05-23-2016, 08:57 PM
I guess I just have a problem with people saying "oh if this is another player and another team it's an automatic suspension".

I hate favoritism and "star calls" as they call it, I just don't see this as being that here.

At what point are you being objective about calls as a league, and at what point are you blatantly being purposely inconsistent?

:confused:

LOL, PlEASE!!!

Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 09:18 PM
This is the biggest black eye on the NBA in a while

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Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 09:20 PM
We're seeing a great job of ref favoritism in both conference finals right now. Just ugly ugly ugly.

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Jamiecballer
05-23-2016, 09:22 PM
Start a #nbaisajoke on twitter

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ewing
05-23-2016, 09:42 PM
I guess I just have a problem with people saying "oh if this is another player and another team it's an automatic suspension".

I hate favoritism and "star calls" as they call it, I just don't see this as being that here.

At what point are you being objective about calls as a league, and at what point are you blatantly being purposely inconsistent?

:confused:

right now

FlashBolt
05-23-2016, 10:30 PM
Huge stain on NBA right now... people will forget about it but I will forever know that they screwed this one up blatantly.. they knew that people would be talking about the decision and still decided to not suspend him.

gaughan333
05-23-2016, 10:46 PM
Huge stain on NBA right now... people will forget about it but I will forever know that they screwed this one up blatantly.. they knew that people would be talking about the decision and still decided to not suspend him.

They don't care because people will continue to watch. We've seen questionable situations in the past, yet people still watch.

I have largely stopped watching the NBA for reasons such as this. The game that is played is barely competitive basketball at this point. It's really kinda sad. It makes it very hard to get into a game when it is so clear that the league has chosen teams/players that they alter the rules of the game for.

Saddletramp
05-23-2016, 10:48 PM
It seems like everyone is hating on Green and not one person brought up the context. Jones incident also occurred with 10 seconds left in the 4th quarter of a 15 point game (a game which is already decided). Green's incident happened midway through the 2nd quarter in a game that was within 2 at that time. I think the NBA really tries to look at the argument of both sides. Honestly, I think Green's game 2 incident was accidental and Green's game 3 "looked" intentional. Green pushes the rules and might be turning into a headcase but I dont see many clear examples of "dirty" plays with intent to injure.

Cover up bro, you keep showing your homerism.

Jeffy25
05-23-2016, 11:04 PM
It wont matter... He is immune to punishment from the NBA.

and correct

ewing
05-23-2016, 11:28 PM
Just like everything else in this world. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

WaDe03
05-23-2016, 11:48 PM
Unbelievable.

blahblahyoutoo
05-23-2016, 11:48 PM
I wouldn't say dirty but that kick was intentional. You can tell by the way he turned and looked and no one had said anything yet. He looked like that guilty kid with the 'what' face.

not only that, but if it were really unintentional, he would've gone to apologize.

PayDaPiper
05-23-2016, 11:55 PM
not only that, but if it were really unintentional, he would've gone to apologize.

would you want to hear an apology after intentionally or unintentionally getting kicked in the nuts? lol

Its over and done with, a trip to the finals should be secured with both teams having their best on the court, not a top player being suspended on a judgment call.

blahblahyoutoo
05-23-2016, 11:58 PM
This is the biggest black eye on the NBA in a while

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dude, you didn't have to get all racist in here.

WaDe03
05-24-2016, 12:23 AM
would you want to hear an apology after intentionally or unintentionally getting kicked in the nuts? lol

Its over and done with, a trip to the finals should be secured with both teams having their best on the court, not a top player being suspended on a judgment call.

If that's the case the then Ibaka should kick Curry as hard as he can in the nuts and say it was an accident and they can keep going back and forth because no one is going to get suspended.

PayDaPiper
05-24-2016, 12:28 AM
If that's the case the then Ibaka should kick Curry as hard as he can in the nuts and say it was an accident and they can keep going back and forth because no one is going to get suspended.

So apparently you know for a fact it was intentional, if this was Durant and Bogut, Durant would not be suspended either. You don't even have a dog in the race why do you care so much

Why suspend Green when intent cant be proven and just give the series to the Thunder

lol, please
05-24-2016, 12:31 AM
So apparently you know for a fact it was intentional, if this was Durant and Bogut, Durant would not be suspended either. You don't even have a dog in the race why do you care so much

Why suspend Green when intent cant be proven and just give the series to the Thunder

to be fair, he has a right to be upset. The Heat were getting all the calls last round and they still lost. And it was stated multiple times that it really can't be proven that Green did it intentionally, but everyone wants to just ride the same narrative that Green is dirty and somehow the Warriors are getting a pass to the finals. Green was interviewed about it and he said he didn't even realize he kicked him and that he is surprised anyone would have the audacity to say it was intentional. People ignore the facts that aren't convenient for them.

gaughan333
05-24-2016, 12:59 AM
yes, because a player has absolutely never lied before. Especially not when admitting, "i kicked dude in the nuts" would surely result in a suspension.

Saddletramp
05-24-2016, 01:04 AM
to be fair, he has a right to be upset. The Heat were getting all the calls last round and they still lost. And it was stated multiple times that it really can't be proven that Green did it intentionally, but everyone wants to just ride the same narrative that Green is dirty and somehow the Warriors are getting a pass to the finals. Green was interviewed about it and he said he didn't even realize he kicked him and that he is surprised anyone would have the audacity to say it was intentional. People ignore the facts that aren't convenient for them.

How does someone not know when they're looking at a guy and kick him anywhere in his body until there's contact? If this was Bogut and Curry, you'd be screaming bloody murder.

ClassyAshyLarry
05-24-2016, 01:33 AM
Well what would you do if he call you a monkey? ...you think a about that before you accuse someone of being dirty as oppose to say swift justice.

I would um... Ignore it... Because I'm an adult.

WaDe03
05-24-2016, 02:06 AM
to be fair, he has a right to be upset. The Heat were getting all the calls last round and they still lost. And it was stated multiple times that it really can't be proven that Green did it intentionally, but everyone wants to just ride the same narrative that Green is dirty and somehow the Warriors are getting a pass to the finals. Green was interviewed about it and he said he didn't even realize he kicked him and that he is surprised anyone would have the audacity to say it was intentional. People ignore the facts that aren't convenient for them.

The L2M reports say otherwise. They ****ed the Heat in late game situations. Just be happy that once again the NBA is letting the Warriors do whatever they want.

WaDe03
05-24-2016, 02:09 AM
So apparently you know for a fact it was intentional, if this was Durant and Bogut, Durant would not be suspended either. You don't even have a dog in the race why do you care so much

Why suspend Green when intent cant be proven and just give the series to the Thunder

Because Jones was suspended just yesterday for much less. It's pure favoritsm and the NBA trying to get as much money as possible. It doesn't matter if it means the Warriors lose, you're not allowed to do that you can't just bend the rules for one team like they have all season. Green can do no wrong in the eyes of the NBA.

Chicagofaithful
05-24-2016, 02:53 AM
Lol yeah that looks like he did it on purpose. This should be a suspension.

OMG I was debating all day with friends from both the bay area and Oklahoma. This settles the debate. LOL this is so obvious. :puke:

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 03:10 AM
Cover up bro, you keep showing your homerism.

Not a cover up. Everyone is circle jerking about suspending green. Might as well change this to a Green bashing thread. The nba treated this like a trial. Would like to see mature arguments as to why the NBA sided with no suspension. Let's try to have an intelligent discussion instead of people threatening to boycott the NBA which the NBA wont even notice (or people dont do) lol.

Saddletramp
05-24-2016, 03:22 AM
Not a cover up. Everyone is circle jerking about suspending green. Might as well change this to a Green bashing thread. The nba treated this like a trial. Would like to see mature arguments as to why the NBA sided with no suspension. Let's try to have an intelligent discussion instead of people threatening to boycott the NBA which the NBA wont even notice (or people dont do) lol.

Intelligent discussion like comparing NBA nut kicking to NFL scrums? Or that the Jones incident happened with ten seconds left in an obvious loss so it matters more than a second quarter close game? Because those are some of your points and they don't fall under the realm of intelligent discussion.

GoferKing_
05-24-2016, 04:10 AM
Can you prove it was intentional/malicious though? That's all i'm asking.

Everyone that has eyes can see it was intentional... stop embarrassing yourself dude...

IBleedPurple
05-24-2016, 04:17 AM
Edit: Wrong thread

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 04:20 AM
Intelligent discussion like comparing NBA nut kicking to NFL scrums? Or that the Jones incident happened with ten seconds left in an obvious loss so it matters more than a second quarter close game? Because those are some of your points and they don't fall under the realm of intelligent discussion.

1) Grabbing/kicking/punching/squeezing balls is not a common NFL move. The NFL and NBA are both contact sports, with the NFL being a little more physical.

2) The time of the incident is actually important here but you can continue to downplay the importance for some reason. When a game is already decided, it is common for the losing team to commit hard fouls out of frustration. The NBA actually has always had quick trigger to eject players that foul hard (or start trouble) at the end of games because its less likely to be a "common basketball move". The NBA probably viewed Jones foul as a frustration (and unnecessary) foul when the game was already decided. Although I do believe Green's was probably intentional, he does have an argument, but only a small one. Could the NBA prove that Green's was 100% intentional ? Just like you cant find someone guilty without solid proof.

Green could argue with -

1) He was trying to sell a call although admitting to flopping would be kind of weak. We have seen some weird after contact actions to sell a call.

2) He would not intentionally kick Adams in the groin area because he saw what happened to Jones earlier and knew the consequences. At least any intelligent person would know this. I think Green is smart but some of the things he does has me wondering.

3) A key reason why Jones was suspended was because of a closed fist with a "small wind up." I dont think a case can be made for ill intent from Green. People bring up the game 2 incident but Kiki already said that game 2 incident was an accident. Don't think Green can be labeled as a "repeat offender" because of this. If it was Harrison Barnes would people view this differently ?

4) Dahntay Jones suspension probably comes from his reputation as a cheap shot artist. Here are some incidents, 2009 kicking the feet of Kobe Bryant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6BWYMjTs3c
and 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=89&v=O17UdfvSH-o . It's pretty known Jones isnt a contributor on any team and his role is the "enforcer" in hockey. How convenient that 10 seconds into the game he finds himself punching Biyombo in the nuts ?

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 04:23 AM
Heres the interview with Kiki the guy that made the decision

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/playoffs/2016/05/23/kiki-vandeweghe-draymond-green-steven-adams-playoffs/84830916/

GoferKing_
05-24-2016, 04:33 AM
No ill intent... dude... so in you opinion that leg move that Green made was a regular move? You play basketball like that? Dayum.

Wow, so what that a guy that made the decision gives an interview? You think he will say somethink like "I know I'm making a bad decision here, but we do not want to suspend Green because of the money and so GSW have a chance to go to the finals.". Please.

Is there also a question about Jones suspension? I guess not.

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 04:40 AM
No ill intent... dude... so in you opinion that leg move that Green made was a regular move? You play basketball like that? Dayum.

Wow, so what that a guy that made the decision gives an interview? You think he will say somethink like "I know I'm making a bad decision here, but we do not want to suspend Green because of the money and so GSW have a chance to go to the finals.". Please.

I didnt say its a regular move. But its difficult to prove that its not a regular move. Its kind of similar to law. No one is saying Green is "innocent" its just that he wasnt proven to be guilty.

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 04:41 AM
No ill intent... dude... so in you opinion that leg move that Green made was a regular move? You play basketball like that? Dayum.

Wow, so what that a guy that made the decision gives an interview? You think he will say somethink like "I know I'm making a bad decision here, but we do not want to suspend Green because of the money and so GSW have a chance to go to the finals.". Please.

Is there also a question about Jones suspension? I guess not.

There was a question about Jones suspension somewhere in there I think. I think he said he saw Jones close his fist and pull the arm back (resembling a wind up). Didnt really watch Jones replay closely though.

GoferKing_
05-24-2016, 04:56 AM
Yes, it is there. But come on, on what move you leg goes that high up with such speed?

I know you are probably a GSW supporter, but dude, if it was Boogie he would be suspended for 10 games, intentional or not. Green gets away with jumping on the refs, throwing tantrums, etc. I hate when DMC does that instead focusing on the game and more than half of the techs he gets are deserved, but Green doing the same thing is immune to techs.

nastynice
05-24-2016, 06:19 AM
I think he purposely kicked his leg, kinda being floppy, I don't think he meant to hit Adams junk tho. I don't know, either way it was sloppy on green's end

Heediot
05-24-2016, 07:53 AM
LOL, GS fans still believe Green is innocent. Cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias is real.

sjbirds
05-24-2016, 08:15 AM
So apparently you know for a fact it was intentional, if this was Durant and Bogut, Durant would not be suspended either. You don't even have a dog in the race why do you care so much

Why suspend Green when intent cant be proven and just give the series to the Thunder

Because Jones was suspended just yesterday for much less. It's pure favoritsm and the NBA trying to get as much money as possible. It doesn't matter if it means the Warriors lose, you're not allowed to do that you can't just bend the rules for one team like they have all season. Green can do no wrong in the eyes of the NBA.
What was it then when wade should have been suspended?

WaDe03
05-24-2016, 11:16 AM
What was it then when wade should have been suspended?

Suspended for what? I know Wade got suspended for kicking sessions in the nuts and Green isn't **** to Wade but they're showing favoritsm for the Warriors. They can't have the team they helped go 73-9 lose at all let alone the conference finals.

Chronz
05-24-2016, 12:18 PM
Can you prove it was intentional/malicious though? That's all i'm asking.

Intent is irrelevant that's why it's such a polarizing decision

Vee-Rex
05-24-2016, 01:40 PM
Intent is irrelevant that's why it's such a polarizing decision

Exactly.

Intent is irrelevant in these decisions.

Saddletramp
05-24-2016, 01:58 PM
1) Grabbing/kicking/punching/squeezing balls is not a common NFL move. The NFL and NBA are both contact sports, with the NFL being a little more physical.

2) The time of the incident is actually important here but you can continue to downplay the importance for some reason. When a game is already decided, it is common for the losing team to commit hard fouls out of frustration. The NBA actually has always had quick trigger to eject players that foul hard (or start trouble) at the end of games because its less likely to be a "common basketball move". The NBA probably viewed Jones foul as a frustration (and unnecessary) foul when the game was already decided. Although I do believe Green's was probably intentional, he does have an argument, but only a small one. Could the NBA prove that Green's was 100% intentional ? Just like you cant find someone guilty without solid proof.

Green could argue with -

1) He was trying to sell a call although admitting to flopping would be kind of weak. We have seen some weird after contact actions to sell a call.

2) He would not intentionally kick Adams in the groin area because he saw what happened to Jones earlier and knew the consequences. At least any intelligent person would know this. I think Green is smart but some of the things he does has me wondering.

3) A key reason why Jones was suspended was because of a closed fist with a "small wind up." I dont think a case can be made for ill intent from Green. People bring up the game 2 incident but Kiki already said that game 2 incident was an accident. Don't think Green can be labeled as a "repeat offender" because of this. If it was Harrison Barnes would people view this differently ?

4) Dahntay Jones suspension probably comes from his reputation as a cheap shot artist. Here are some incidents, 2009 kicking the feet of Kobe Bryant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6BWYMjTs3c
and 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=89&v=O17UdfvSH-o . It's pretty known Jones isnt a contributor on any team and his role is the "enforcer" in hockey. How convenient that 10 seconds into the game he finds himself punching Biyombo in the nuts ?

That's better. Still don't agree with comparing it to football scrums and the time thing, but you e fleshed out your points well enough that see what you're saying. Green is getting the dirty label that he deserves though so I hope he's looked at more closely in the future like Cousins.

And I read the interview. Kiki is just covering up his decision on why he differentiated the two instances. I don't buy it.

Saddletramp
05-24-2016, 02:00 PM
Intent is irrelevant that's why it's such a polarizing decision

Wonder if we're going to see a lot more leg kick outs now on jump shots and runs to the rim. They're setting a bad precedent here.

blahblahyoutoo
05-24-2016, 02:04 PM
2) He would not intentionally kick Adams in the groin area because he saw what happened to Jones earlier and knew the consequences. At least any intelligent person would know this. I think Green is smart but some of the things he does has me wondering.


the fact that you think green is smart tells me that you're not.

cmellofan15
05-24-2016, 02:08 PM
Wonder if we're going to see a lot more leg kick outs now on jump shots and runs to the rim. They're setting a bad precedent here.

Yeah, that's what we would like to think. But in a similar case any other player will be suspended because there is apparently no consistency.

Saddletramp
05-24-2016, 02:11 PM
Yeah, that's what we would like to think. But in a similar case any other player will be suspended because there is apparently no consistency.

Oh I know, and that'll be equally funny/pathetic.

WaDe03
05-24-2016, 02:31 PM
Go ahead and hand the Warriors the trophy, it's what the NBA wants.

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 04:04 PM
the fact that you think green is smart tells me that you're not.

Green is smart, but hes also a wacko. Decision making is such an important part of the role he plays and he excels at it. Everyone has a different definition for "smart." Not losing any sleep if you dont think I am.

sf-fanatic
05-24-2016, 04:12 PM
That's better. Still don't agree with comparing it to football scrums and the time thing, but you e fleshed out your points well enough that see what you're saying. Green is getting the dirty label that he deserves though so I hope he's looked at more closely in the future like Cousins.

And I read the interview. Kiki is just covering up his decision on why he differentiated the two instances. I don't buy it.

I would have understood if Green got suspended and was actually expecting it based on the Jones ruling, but I also thought Jones shouldnt have been suspended. The NBA cares about the viewers and stars are a big part of it. Everyone acts surprised but its been like that for at least 10 years.

blahblahyoutoo
05-24-2016, 04:20 PM
Green is smart, but hes also a wacko. Decision making is such an important part of the role he plays and he excels at it. Everyone has a different definition for "smart." Not losing any sleep if you dont think I am.

green is a meathead with absolutely no self control over his own emotions. that's a sign of weak minded person. he could easily cost his team the series if he gets another flagrant or had the league been fair and suspended him for a game or two. how's that for being smart?

also, just listening to him speak in post game interviews, one could clearly tell the level of his intelligence.

Saddletramp
05-24-2016, 05:25 PM
I would have understood if Green got suspended and was actually expecting it based on the Jones ruling, but I also thought Jones shouldnt have been suspended. The NBA cares about the viewers and stars are a big part of it. Everyone acts surprised but its been like that for at least 10 years.

Green tries to sell that he didn't know that he kicked him but how can you throw your leg out and come in contact with anything and not know that you did? And he never even apologized (to everyone's knowledge) or seemed apologetic after the game about it. He was more trying to play off that he didn't know and that he of course wouldn't have done something like that instead of saying that he didn't mean to and that wasn't his intention but he's sorry that it happened.

1 He's dirty for doing it.
2 He's a punk for lying about it.
3 He's an idiot for thinking anyone (that's not a biased fan) would believe him that he didn't even know that he did it, let alone that he meant to or not.
4 He's disgraceful for not manning up to it and apologizing even if it wasn't intentional.
5 He's weak minded for putting his team at risk of losing him.

And that doesn't even cover the NBA's side of it.

This whole thing puts to rest if he's dirty or not. Also puts to rest if he's an idiot or not. Also puts to rest how the NBA blatantly favors money over rules.

It's pathetic.

GoferKing_
05-24-2016, 07:22 PM
Green tries to sell that he didn't know that he kicked him but how can you throw your leg out and come in contact with anything and not know that you did? And he never even apologized (to everyone's knowledge) or seemed apologetic after the game about it. He was more trying to play off that he didn't know and that he of course wouldn't have done something like that instead of saying that he didn't mean to and that wasn't his intention but he's sorry that it happened.

1 He's dirty for doing it.
2 He's a punk for lying about it.
3 He's an idiot for thinking anyone (that's not a biased fan) would believe him that he didn't even know that he did it, let alone that he meant to or not.
4 He's disgraceful for not manning up to it and apologizing even if it wasn't intentional.
5 He's weak minded for putting his team at risk of losing him.

And that doesn't even cover the NBA's side of it.

This whole thing puts to rest if he's dirty or not. Also puts to rest if he's an idiot or not. Also puts to rest how the NBA blatantly favors money over rules.

It's pathetic.

Best post around here.

blahblahyoutoo
05-24-2016, 07:35 PM
exactly. the first inclination of any decent human who wasn't intentionally trying to hurt someone, immediately after inadvertently hurting someone, is to apologize and check to see if he's ok.

green's reaction? walk away as if nothing happened when he clearly knew what happened. that's a pretty obvious sign of guilt.

Stunner
05-25-2016, 12:07 AM
-30

Redrum187
05-25-2016, 01:48 AM
Green just can't stop... sucking. Wtf happened to him?!

Saddletramp
05-25-2016, 04:03 AM
Green just can't stop... sucking. Wtf happened to him?!

He got shook. Like I've been saying, he's mentally weak.

GoferKing_
05-25-2016, 04:30 AM
Green with another kick people.. this tim when he was falling he intentionally kicked in forget who in the leg...

Stunner
05-25-2016, 10:55 AM
Since the kick he's 1-12 , 8 turnovers and -61

Vinylman
05-25-2016, 12:06 PM
green tries to sell that he didn't know that he kicked him but how can you throw your leg out and come in contact with anything and not know that you did? And he never even apologized (to everyone's knowledge) or seemed apologetic after the game about it. He was more trying to play off that he didn't know and that he of course wouldn't have done something like that instead of saying that he didn't mean to and that wasn't his intention but he's sorry that it happened.

1 he's dirty for doing it.
2 he's a punk for lying about it.
3 he's an idiot for thinking anyone (that's not a biased fan) would believe him that he didn't even know that he did it, let alone that he meant to or not.
4 he's disgraceful for not manning up to it and apologizing even if it wasn't intentional.
5 he's weak minded for putting his team at risk of losing him.

And that doesn't even cover the nba's side of it.

This whole thing puts to rest if he's dirty or not. Also puts to rest if he's an idiot or not. Also puts to rest how the nba blatantly favors money over rules.

It's pathetic.

bam!!!!!!!!!!!!

kdspurman
05-25-2016, 12:09 PM
Since the kick he's 1-12 , 8 turnovers and -61

Basketball Gods and OKC doing what the league wouldn't

Stunner
05-25-2016, 01:08 PM
Basketball Gods and OKC doing what the league wouldn't

Highkey think Lil B let that KD curse go on the low low

Stunner
05-30-2016, 09:56 PM
Lmao Draymond at it again

Saddletramp
05-31-2016, 04:53 AM
I like how he sold it like he got fouled so hard and then when they both got a foul, he just shook it off like it never happened. Thought they'd be giving him the concussion protocol but that's a ******** rule that the NBA doesn't take seriously, either. The dude is such a punk. How can anyone cheer for him and have any sort of self respect?

lol, please
05-31-2016, 05:13 AM
I like how he sold it like he got fouled so hard and then when they both got a foul, he just shook it off like it never happened. Thought they'd be giving him the concussion protocol but that's a ******** rule that the NBA doesn't take seriously, either. The dude is such a punk. How can anyone cheer for him and have any sort of self respect?

Maybe because he plays with heart, passion, he is a defensive difference maker, and his fouls are unintentional.

Saddletramp
05-31-2016, 01:58 PM
Maybe because he plays with heart, passion, he is a defensive difference maker, and his fouls are unintentional.

Unintentional? Do you even believe that? Give it up. Your guy is dirty and everyone (including most Warriors fans) know this. He's the main reason the Warriors are turning into the villains of the NBA.

CHANGO
05-31-2016, 02:24 PM
Yeah that takedown on Adams looked to me intentional and dirty.

JAZZNC
05-31-2016, 03:22 PM
Green is a completely overrated douche bag. He somehow has the league backing him because he should have been suspended. I have no idea how that loudmouthed moron isn't given a technical every single game. He is far from good enough of a player to be getting away with what he does (nobody should get away with the **** he pulls). I wish he played in the 80's or 90's where guys would have just beat his ***/knocked his *** down a rung or two. Unfortunately he gets to play against a bunch of soft big men. I dunno, I just think he is like KG....the fakest "tough guy" you will ever come across. Just a punk plain and simple.

GoferKing_
05-31-2016, 03:37 PM
Maybe because he plays with heart, passion, he is a defensive difference maker, and his fouls are unintentional.

Oh, dude...

lol, please
05-31-2016, 03:50 PM
Oh, dude...

:confused:

ok. Let me guess, you can prove malicious intent?

Where do we draw the line between physical play / banging inside, and actual dirty play intended to hurt someone?

Scoots
05-31-2016, 09:53 PM
I think a lot of what people complain about Green isn't dirty. But he's crossed the line a few times this playoffs. Right now he's tending toward dirty ... he needs to adjust.

FlashBolt
05-31-2016, 09:58 PM
:confused:

ok. Let me guess, you can prove malicious intent?

Where do we draw the line between physical play / banging inside, and actual dirty play intended to hurt someone?

You prove it when the guy is always doing it... and has been doing it. Look at all the dirty plays in the OKC vs Warriors game.. you'll find that 99% of it involves Green doing something unorthodox. Once? Twice? Fine.. but he's done MULTIPLE dirty plays that can result to injuries.

Scoots
05-31-2016, 10:47 PM
You prove it when the guy is always doing it... and has been doing it. Look at all the dirty plays in the OKC vs Warriors game.. you'll find that 99% of it involves Green doing something unorthodox. Once? Twice? Fine.. but he's done MULTIPLE dirty plays that can result to injuries.

Keep in mind I just said he's been dirty. But doing something and proving intent are two very different things. You can infer intent, but the only way to prove it is if Green said he meant to do it or he told someone before he did it that he was going to do it.

Saddletramp
05-31-2016, 10:55 PM
C'mon, Scoots. Par for the course with some of these chuckleheads but you're better than that. And he's not going to admit it because on top of being a dirty player, he's also a filthy liar.

Sone players have done far less and gotten the dirty reputation.

nastynice
05-31-2016, 11:16 PM
Green is a completely overrated douche bag. He somehow has the league backing him because he should have been suspended. I have no idea how that loudmouthed moron isn't given a technical every single game. He is far from good enough of a player to be getting away with what he does (nobody should get away with the **** he pulls). I wish he played in the 80's or 90's where guys would have just beat his ***/knocked his *** down a rung or two. Unfortunately he gets to play against a bunch of soft big men. I dunno, I just think he is like KG....the fakest "tough guy" you will ever come across. Just a punk plain and simple.

Let's be real now, green wouldn't be the one getting his *** beat. Green beating some ***, yea, I could see that :cool:

nastynice
05-31-2016, 11:25 PM
Keep in mind I just said he's been dirty. But doing something and proving intent are two very different things. You can infer intent, but the only way to prove it is if Green said he meant to do it or he told someone before he did it that he was going to do it.

There are 2 things that could POSSIBLY be dirty, the nut kick and the takedown. Both are pretty common moves made basically on a nightly basis by any given player during the reg season (flailing after a foul, taking someone down with you). Maybe he's dirty, maybe he's not, maybe he's tip toeing that line, I really don't think so, but everyone's gonna see it thru their own eyes.

Calling a player dirty is a pretty heavy thing IMO, last yr when the narrative On Delly was that he's dirty I didn't agree, even tho he injured multiple players, so of course I'm not gonna think green is dirty for pulling some pretty common moves.

I think the nut kick was pretty clearly not dirty, im a little iffy on the takedown. I get he was pushed down, I get that he just grabbed Adams to bring him down too, but the way/angle he had Adams arm at didn't look good. At all. Wether it was simply him grabbing anything and that's just what he got a hold of, or wether he was legit trying to put Adams in a potential injury situation, I don't know. Based on his history I go with the former, but doesn't mean I 100% rule out the latter

t_money25
05-31-2016, 11:52 PM
I personally could care less whether or not he's considered dirty but the kick to the nuts and the arm takedown are intentional

GoferKing_
06-01-2016, 03:49 AM
:confused:

ok. Let me guess, you can prove malicious intent?

Where do we draw the line between physical play / banging inside, and actual dirty play intended to hurt someone?

Oh, bro...

FlashBolt
06-01-2016, 11:15 AM
Keep in mind I just said he's been dirty. But doing something and proving intent are two very different things. You can infer intent, but the only way to prove it is if Green said he meant to do it or he told someone before he did it that he was going to do it.

At this point, I don't need further proof. If it continues happening (which has been true), I can only assume that he plays dirty. Like I said, once or twice is okay. Basketball is a physical sport. Hitting the guy's nuts twice in two games but then all of a sudden, you stop hitting it because you can get suspended? He also pulled Adams arm on purpose. He also tripped Enes Kanter on purpose... I can name more but those are the most obvious ones.

Vee-Rex
06-01-2016, 01:35 PM
When GS fans are resigned to, "It could or could not be intentional/dirty... I don't know." then I think that pretty much sums up that the dude is dirty lol.

In the OKC series alone, Green has:

Knee'd Adams in the groin
Kicked Adams in the groin
High-kicked and grazed Westbrook in the face
Tripped up Kanter with his legs
Arm-bar take-down on Adams

That's not counting tackling Beasley in the regular season, undercutting Evan Turner in the regular season, among other plays in the regular season.

I realize GS fans want to be hesitant and patient on this, but IF WE WERE TO CALL ANYONE DIRTY, then Green definitely takes the cake right now. He earned it.

I'm hoping Scoots and nastynice and whoever else favors GS can at least acknowledge the above ^^^ even if your personal feelings towards Green may have you believing otherwise.

/end thread

FlashBolt
06-01-2016, 01:55 PM
When GS fans are resigned to, "It could or could not be intentional/dirty... I don't know." then I think that pretty much sums up that the dude is dirty lol.

In the OKC series alone, Green has:

Knee'd Adams in the groin
Kicked Adams in the groin
High-kicked and grazed Westbrook in the face
Tripped up Kanter with his legs
Arm-bar take-down on Adams

That's not counting tackling Beasley in the regular season, undercutting Evan Turner in the regular season, among other plays in the regular season.

I realize GS fans want to be hesitant and patient on this, but IF WE WERE TO CALL ANYONE DIRTY, then Green definitely takes the cake right now. He earned it.

I'm hoping Scoots and nastynice and whoever else favors GS can at least acknowledge the above ^^^ even if your personal feelings towards Green may have you believing otherwise.

/end thread

To them, it's not dirty because he's just doing whatever it takes.. he has heart!

eDush
06-03-2016, 05:20 AM
In today's nba, he's the closest thing to dirty.
https://youtu.be/1H2HjiQb-kk I agree after further review :(

GoferKing_
06-03-2016, 05:45 AM
Green with another kick...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4yLGz-HcLQ

nastynice
06-03-2016, 06:52 AM
When GS fans are resigned to, "It could or could not be intentional/dirty... I don't know." then I think that pretty much sums up that the dude is dirty lol.

In the OKC series alone, Green has:

Knee'd Adams in the groin
Kicked Adams in the groin
High-kicked and grazed Westbrook in the face
Tripped up Kanter with his legs
Arm-bar take-down on Adams

That's not counting tackling Beasley in the regular season, undercutting Evan Turner in the regular season, among other plays in the regular season.

I realize GS fans want to be hesitant and patient on this, but IF WE WERE TO CALL ANYONE DIRTY, then Green definitely takes the cake right now. He earned it.

I'm hoping Scoots and nastynice and whoever else favors GS can at least acknowledge the above ^^^ even if your personal feelings towards Green may have you believing otherwise.

/end thread

The Adams take down is a little iffy, and I say that because of the position Adams arm was in. Everything leading up to it, I can't say anything negative about. Adams fouls him, green starts falling, takes Adams down with him. Nothing "dirty" there. It just doesn't sit well with me that Adams arm was vulnerable. Obviously green is off balance and falling, so him just grabbing anything on his way down is a very possible and realistic exolanation of what could've happened. But it could also be wrong. This much I can acknowledge.

All ur other examples are pretty bs. The first nut shot to Adams, u really think that was dirty or intentional? That's crazy. That means u got s lil hateration in u. I told u I see u in the other thread, lol.

CHANGO
06-03-2016, 01:13 PM
Stop fighting Warriors butterflies, he's just dirty. Accept it and move on.

Jeffy25
06-03-2016, 01:14 PM
That kick and flop to Kyrie was unacceptable and clearly over done.

Green needs to go play professional soccer

koreancabbage
06-03-2016, 03:06 PM
Green is now dirty. straight up.

If he's falling down/flopping, he's gonna make sure you're gonna feel him too.

He believes he can get a two in one.

1) a foul on the opposing player
2) get a cheap shot in because they don't call that stuff on the player being fouled