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Lionel20
04-14-2016, 09:51 PM
*There are some players that may have a high enough win score to be included but failed to meet the MP cutoff
*All players are listed by my own version of Player Value converted into Wins
* Player Value is based on "Alternative Wins Shares" and "Value Over Replacement Player" formulas, however significantly changed to include more defensive metrics (Primarily SportsVU defensive tracking). ETC.

*Most importantly ALL players' Value stats are on an ALL-TIME scale, for instance enabling cross-era comparisons: How does Draymond Green's play so far compare with 1971 Elvin Hayes. In order to accomplish this, I needed a balanced era to serve as a level field of comparison - the 90s was selected. It may have been a bit favorable to Centers, but compared to other era's I believe their was more of a competitive balance from all positions. Today's game, for a variety of reasons, has neutralized the Center position, and the rules are more favorable for parameters players, making it almost impossible to reasonably compare these players to players from other era's without league average and league quality adjustments.

Well, I've made those reasonable adjustments. I thought I'd mentioned this so that viewers can read my work better. All of my player evals are from an all-time reference and perspective. I can break down all my formulas if requested, from my Usage Rate on down. Just think of it as reverse inflation, this is how Kevin Durant eg 2016 numbers look from within balanced context.


Name Wins
1 LeBron James 15.73
2 Stephen Curry 14.65
3 James Harden 14.57
4 Kevin Durant 14.28
5 Russell Westbrook 13.89
6 Draymond Green 12.79
7 Kawhi Leonard 12.23
8 Karl-Anthony Towns 12.09
9 Paul Millsap 12.08
10 DeAndre Jordan 12.08
11 Chris Paul 11.78
12 Andre Drummond 11.50
13 Anthony Davis 11.44
14 Paul George 11.33
15 John Wall 11.11
16 Al Horford 10.95
17 Kyle Lowry 10.85
18 Kemba Walker 10.83
19 LaMarcus Aldridge 10.80
20 Pau Gasol 10.72
21 Brook Lopez 10.72
22 DeMarcus Cousins 10.68
23 Hassan Whiteside 10.52
24 Jimmy Butler 10.37
25 Isaiah Thomas 10.28
26 Giannis Antetokounmpo 10.25
27 DeMar DeRozan 10.08
28 Greg Monroe 9.95
29 Klay Thompson 9.48
30 Marcin Gortat 9.48
31 Damian Lillard 9.43
32 Khris Middleton 9.20
33 Carmelo Anthony 9.19
34 Andrew Wiggins 9.06
35 Dwyane Wade 9.01
36 Dwight Howard 9.00
37 Nikola Vucevic 8.98
38 Thaddeus Young 8.74
39 Rajon Rondo 8.68
40 Enes Kanter 8.54
41 C.J. McCollum 8.52
42 Derrick Favors 8.28
43 Dirk Nowitzki 7.88
44 Gordon Hayward 7.85
45 Monta Ellis 7.84
46 Kevin Love 7.78
47 Tobias Harris 7.74
48 Jeff Teague 7.71
49 Nikola Jokic 7.69
50 Robin Lopez 7.67
51 Victor Oladipo 7.65
52 Nicolas Batum 7.56
53 Goran Dragic 7.52
54 Tristan Thompson 7.41
55 Ricky Rubio 7.39
56 Marvin Williams 7.29
57 Gorgui Dieng 7.17
58 Reggie Jackson 7.03
59 Rudy Gay 7.01
60 Avery Bradley 6.93
61 Zach Randolph 6.92
62 Ed Davis 6.91
63 Steven Adams 6.89
64 Jae Crowder 6.89
65 Will Barton 6.88
66 Kenneth Faried 6.87
67 Evan Turner 6.86
68 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope6.82
69 Rudy Gobert 6.81
70 Kristaps Porzingis 6.80
71 Mason Plumlee 6.77
72 Trevor Ariza 6.74
73 Serge Ibaka 6.73
74 Jared Sullinger 6.71
75 Jonas Valanciunas 6.70
76 Zaza Pachulia 6.58
77 J.J. Redick 6.55
78 Aaron Gordon 6.55
79 Nerlens Noel 6.54
80 Taj Gibson 6.40
81 Marcus Morris 6.36
82 Chris Bosh 6.34
83 Luol Deng 6.26
84 Amir Johnson 6.25
85 Ryan Anderson 6.20
86 Jabari Parker 6.14
87 George Hill 6.14
88 Jrue Holiday 6.04
89 Darren Collison 6.04
90 Lou Williams 5.98
91 Jordan Clarkson 5.93
92 Marc Gasol 5.91
93 Ian Mahinmi 5.83
94 Mike Conley 5.79
95 P.J. Tucker 5.76
96 Otto Porter 5.75
97 Cody Zeller 5.75
98 Rodney Hood 5.67
99 Kyrie Irving 5.67
100 Clint Capela 5.63
101 Danilo Gallinari 5.59
102 Tony Parker 5.57
103 Ish Smith 5.49
104 Gary Harris 5.37
105 Julius Randle 5.33
106 Evan Fournier 5.32
107 Tim Duncan 5.32
108 Kent Bazemore 5.25
109 Bismack Biyombo 5.23
110 Jamal Crawford 5.23
111 Courtney Lee 5.22
112 Deron Williams 5.18
113 Al-Farouq Aminu 5.14
114 Jahlil Okafor 5.08
115 Joe Johnson 5.07
116 Elfrid Payton 5.03
117 Andrew Bogut 5.00
118 Wesley Matthews 4.97
119 Jerami Grant 4.95
120 Blake Griffin 4.94
121 Zach LaVine 4.92
122 Chandler Parsons 4.90
123 Raymond Felton 4.90
124 Tyson Chandler 4.84
125 Thabo Sefolosha 4.79
126 David West 4.76
127 Brandon Knight 4.74
128 Jordan Hill 4.73
129 Derrick Rose 4.72
130 Trevor Booker 4.72
131 Patrick Beverley 4.69
132 Jeremy Lin 4.66
133 Bradley Beal 4.65
134 Jeff Green 4.63
135 Shabazz Muhammad 4.61
136 Derrick Williams 4.57
137 Andre Iguodala 4.54
138 Kosta Koufos 4.53
139 Harrison Barnes 4.47
140 Allen Crabbe 4.47
141 Willie Cauley-Stein 4.45
142 Cory Joseph 4.45
143 Dennis Schroder 4.41
144 J.R. Smith 4.41
145 Jared Dudley 4.37
146 T.J. McConnell 4.35
147 Ramon Sessions 4.34
148 D'Angelo Russell 4.28
149 Brandon Bass 4.28
150 Langston Galloway 4.24
151 Omri Casspi 4.19
152 J.J. Barea 4.19
153 Kyle Korver 4.17
154 Shane Larkin 4.14
155 Ersan Ilyasova 4.09
156 Nikola Mirotic 4.08
157 Jose Calderon 4.07
158 Arron Afflalo 4.06
159 Kelly Olynyk 4.05
160 Michael Carter-Williams 4.03
161 Kobe Bryant 4.02
162 Lavoy Allen 4.01
163 Shaun Livingston 4.01
164 Patrick Patterson 3.98
165 Alex Len 3.96
166 Patrick Mills 3.94
167 Danny Green 3.91
168 Robert Covington 3.87
169 Aron Baynes 3.87
170 Tony Allen 3.85
171 Mirza Teletovic 3.83
172 Myles Turner 3.83
173 Mario Chalmers 3.81
174 Jeremy Lamb 3.76
175 JaMychal Green 3.76
176 Manu Ginobili 3.72
177 Al Jefferson 3.68
178 Jon Leuer 3.66
179 Timofey Mozgov 3.65
180 Eric Bledsoe 3.65
181 Marcus Smart 3.64
182 Maurice Harkless 3.62
183 Frank Kaminsky 3.59
184 Matt Barnes 3.55
185 Boris Diaw 3.55
186 Justise Winslow 3.49
187 Terrence Ross 3.48
188 Darrell Arthur 3.45
189 Nene Hilario 3.42
190 Markieff Morris 3.41
191 Larry Nance Jr. 3.38
192 Andre Roberson 3.35
193 Dion Waiters 3.35
194 Luis Scola 3.30
195 Matthew Dellavedova 3.27
196 Roy Hibbert 3.17
197 Devin Booker 3.12
198 Joffrey Lauvergne 3.07
199 Gerald Henderson 3.06
200 Eric Gordon 3.02
201 Bobby Portis 3.00
202 Austin Rivers 2.97
203 Wesley Johnson 2.97
204 Isaiah Canaan 2.96
205 Kyle Anderson 2.95
206 Donald Sloan 2.92
207 Mike Scott 2.90
208 Lance Stephenson 2.87
209 Jerryd Bayless 2.85
210 Emmanuel Mudiay 2.83
211 T.J. Warren 2.81
212 Toney Douglas 2.81
213 Hollis Thompson 2.76
214 Jason Smith 2.75
215 Garrett Temple 2.75
216 C.J. Miles 2.72
217 Marcus Thornton 2.71
218 Nik Stauskas 2.65
219 Dante Cunningham 2.64
220 Trey Burke 2.63
221 Corey Brewer 2.61
222 Gerald Green 2.56
223 Devin Harris 2.55
224 Rodney Stuckey 2.53
225 Alonzo Gee 2.51
226 Omer Asik 2.49
227 Doug McDermott 2.49
228 Trey Lyles 2.43
229 Marco Belinelli 2.41
230 Bojan Bogdanovic 2.38
231 Wayne Ellington 2.38
232 E'Twaun Moore 2.36
233 Channing Frye 2.35
234 Ty Lawson 2.35
235 D.J. Augustin 2.32
236 Anthony Tolliver 2.31
237 Jarrett Jack 2.31
238 Terrence Jones 2.28
239 Leandro Barbosa 2.26
240 Shelvin Mack 2.22
241 Jerian Grant 2.18
242 Meyers Leonard 2.14
243 Luc Mbah a Moute 2.07
244 Jonas Jerebko 2.06
245 Spencer Hawes 2.03
246 Randy Foye 1.95
247 Raul Neto 1.93
248 Aaron Brooks 1.89
249 Lance Thomas 1.87
250 Iman Shumpert 1.87

valade16
04-15-2016, 01:41 AM
Bron over Steph? Right from the beginning we can see your formula doesn't pass the most basic eye test. And Harden 3rd? I don't see how that's possible because the only argument Bron could possibly have over Steph is if you think his defense was superior, but if that's the case and defense is so heavily weighed, no way should Harden be #3...

Also, a big LOL to the idea that Gortat brought more wins to the Wizards than Lillard to the Blazers.

DanG
04-15-2016, 02:42 AM
No one has an argument over Steph.

DJ over CP3? lullz

should be:

1. Steph
2. KD
3. LeBron
4. Kawhi
5. Westbrook

It's just the regular season though.

WaDe03
04-15-2016, 04:03 AM
LeBron is still the best player in the world. Everyone knows he just coasts during the regular season he's been doing it for years.

DanG
04-15-2016, 04:31 AM
LeBron is still the best player in the world. Everyone knows he just coasts during the regular season he's been doing it for years.

30/5/7 on 50/45/90. 73 wins, championship. There is no argument against Curry. Only maybe if LeBron goes crazy in the finals and beats GSW, but good luck with that.

ewing
04-15-2016, 08:46 AM
Bron over Steph? Right from the beginning we can see your formula doesn't pass the most basic eye test. And Harden 3rd? I don't see how that's possible because the only argument Bron could possibly have over Steph is if you think his defense was superior, but if that's the case and defense is so heavily weighed, no way should Harden be #3...

Also, a big LOL to the idea that Gortat brought more wins to the Wizards than Lillard to the Blazers.


:laugh:

Hawkeye15
04-15-2016, 09:39 AM
LeBron is still the best player in the world. Everyone knows he just coasts during the regular season he's been doing it for years.

nah, Steph fits the bill now. He was the best player last year, and has now added another year of evidence. Meaning, he took over as the best

WaDe03
04-15-2016, 12:11 PM
nah, Steph fits the bill now. He was the best player last year, and has now added another year of evidence. Meaning, he took over as the best

LeBron was head and shoulders better than anyone in the series and a far superior 2-way player. The LeBron we've seen the last few weeks is playoff LeBron and he's been the best player for about the last month now that he's serious.

Scoots
04-15-2016, 12:45 PM
He did say he adjusted the numbers to favor size.

In that context it's not surprising that guards are below where you expected them to be.

FlashBolt
04-15-2016, 02:29 PM
I second that LeBron is still the best player. The sheer totality of it is one guy just has to do more for his team. I watched the Warriors beat other teams handily without Curry having great games. The Warriors are 16-3 when Curry shoots borderline 40% from the field. The Cavs are 3-10 when James does so. It obviously doesn't tell the whole story but when one guy has a terrible shooting night, you know his team is great enough to still blow the other team away. The other guy has to excel every game in order for his team to have a fighting chance (1-4, 4-14 without LeBron the past two seasons) ---> that equates to I believe the fifth worst record in the NBA if done through a season. (However, LeBron sitting out probably screws up their rotation, etc. but this team just isn't good when LeBron is out). Again, Draymond is arguably the DPOY and a top ten player. Klay is a top 3 SG. Harrison Barnes, Iggy (FMVP), Bogut, Shaun Livingston. It's much easier to play better when you have such a roster so I don't think looking into stats really dissolves the situation here. On a purely basketball standpoint, I still think LeBron is the best player.

valade16
04-15-2016, 07:08 PM
He did say he adjusted the numbers to favor size.

In that context it's not surprising that guards are below where you expected them to be.

By why adjust the numbers to favor size? If a bigger player is better, you shouldn't have to adjust to make it so, it should show up in the numbers.

Not to mention size is most definitely not the factor that is tearing up the league right now. If anything he should adjust it to favor high volume/high percentage 3pt shooters...

naps
04-15-2016, 07:32 PM
nah, Steph fits the bill now. He was the best player last year, and has now added another year of evidence. Meaning, he took over as the best


I agree he is the best right now. But I am not sure he was the best player last year. He was the mvp and best player on the best team but as an individual? Not sure.

Scoots
04-15-2016, 07:57 PM
By why adjust the numbers to favor size? If a bigger player is better, you shouldn't have to adjust to make it so, it should show up in the numbers.

Not to mention size is most definitely not the factor that is tearing up the league right now. If anything he should adjust it to favor high volume/high percentage 3pt shooters...
You'll have to ask him why he normalizes a list of players this year to the 90s game. But that's what he said he did.

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JAZZNC
04-15-2016, 08:38 PM
Paul Millsap a top 10 NBA player and Draymond Green ahead of Kawhi.....list is all over the place.

JasonJohnHorn
04-16-2016, 10:59 AM
I appreciate the effort here.

But much as we'd like to think any formula will tell the whole story, it never will.

Besides, I don't think it is even worth differentiating between the 198th best player, and the 197th best player.