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kdspurman
04-14-2016, 08:13 PM
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Game 1: Sun April 17 Charlotte at Miami 5:30PM TNT
Game 2: Wed April 20 Charlotte at Miami 7:00PM NBA TV
Game 3: Sat April 23 Miami at Charlotte 5:30PM TNT
Game 4: Mon April 25 Miami at Charlotte TBD TBD
Game 5*: Wed April 27 Charlotte at Miami TBD TBD
Game 6*: Fri April 29 Miami at Charlotte TBD TBD
Game 7*: Sun May 1 Charlotte at Miami TBD TBD

*If Necessary



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Projected Starting Lineups:



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Scoots
04-14-2016, 09:10 PM
I want the Heat to win, but if Batum is healthy the Hornets win it. What would this Hornets team be like if MKG was playing?

Chronz
04-14-2016, 09:26 PM
This series reminds me of Alonzo, Steve Smith and Glen Rice for some inexplicable reason

JasonJohnHorn
04-14-2016, 09:55 PM
Tough to call this one I think. I'm guessing the Heat will win, but I think the officials will be leaning toward Miami. It's a better story if the Cavs end up facing the Heat. I don't think the NBA cares to see Charlotte go deep. But Miami has the talent and experience to take the series as well.


If this was Deng and Wade form 4 or 5 years ago, I'd heavily favour the Heat.

kobe4thewinbang
04-15-2016, 12:23 AM
No MKG, but I am shocked that Charlotte turned around their season and has connected as a unit. Wade has rings with Bosh, and Whiteside's a beast, but I think Charlotte could do it. Have they gotten out of the second round since inception?

naps
04-15-2016, 12:50 AM
Assuming everyone stays healthy, I say Heat in 6. But Charlotte has been very very good since allstar break. They are a dangerous team.

WaDe03
04-15-2016, 01:19 AM
If Batum is healthy it helps them but as for MKG we could say what would the Heat be like if we had Bosh and TJ. I think Heat get it done in 5. Wouldn't be surprised if it goes to 6 or even 7 but I think the vets get it done for us.

WaDe03
04-15-2016, 01:20 AM
Whiteside starts now btw.

FlashBolt
04-15-2016, 01:24 AM
Miami has the advantage here clearly on experience. Dragic is going to have to play well because Kemba is no easy task. Miami in six. Hornets have been impressive lately which begs the question, how good would this team be if Al Jefferson was actually healthy? I think we would have saw a 50 win team here. Whiteside should be eating these guys alive. Hopefully Heat feed him down the post.

ManningToTyree
04-15-2016, 01:28 AM
I like this hornets team but Heat in 6

kdspurman
04-15-2016, 09:28 AM
Whiteside starts now btw.

Thanks.. Just updated

archdevil84
04-15-2016, 09:49 AM
is jefferson not playing? cause normally he's one of those centers that always destroys whiteside just like vuvevic from the magic. If he's not playing it sure is gonna make life easier for whiteside

kdspurman
04-15-2016, 10:08 AM
is jefferson not playing? cause normally he's one of those centers that always destroys whiteside just like vuvevic from the magic. If he's not playing it sure is gonna make life easier for whiteside

I think he comes off the bench now

basketballkitty
04-15-2016, 10:49 AM
The Heat are Fool's Gold people. Yes they have a lot of experience. But they have a 1.6 Pt differential as a 3rd seed....worse then the 4 teams below them. Charlotte is almost twice as good. They have Kemba, who is having his best season. And no one on Miami can even come close to checking him defensively. Miami can try to manipulate the Refs by using their Olt timers and experience, and MAYBE that works. But if not...Charlotte will win it.

Jarvo
04-15-2016, 11:24 AM
Heat in 6

Scoots
04-15-2016, 12:36 PM
If the Hornets are hot for the series they could easily take it. One of the better first round series to watch.

Sadds The Gr8
04-15-2016, 01:28 PM
Heat in 6. I think Heat just matchup better but Kemba is gonna eat.

beasted86
04-15-2016, 01:55 PM
No MKG, but I am shocked that Charlotte turned around their season and has connected as a unit. Wade has rings with Bosh, and Whiteside's a beast, but I think Charlotte could do it. Have they gotten out of the second round since inception?
Which inception? From since their 2005 inception they haven't won a single game in the playoffs in 2 tries.

From their reformed history if you count from 1988 after they brought back the Hornets from New Orleans in 2013, no they haven't gotten past the 2nd round.

FlashBolt
04-15-2016, 02:20 PM
The Heat are Fool's Gold people. Yes they have a lot of experience. But they have a 1.6 Pt differential as a 3rd seed....worse then the 4 teams below them. Charlotte is almost twice as good. They have Kemba, who is having his best season. And no one on Miami can even come close to checking him defensively. Miami can try to manipulate the Refs by using their Olt timers and experience, and MAYBE that works. But if not...Charlotte will win it.

Experience matters. Just ask the Raptors and Hawks. They choke it up every playoffs.

Dade County
04-15-2016, 02:45 PM
Heat in 6. I think Heat just matchup better but Kemba is gonna eat.

Agreed. Dragic cant stay infront of Kemba.

HEAT should still have enough to get pass them. Miami should force kemba to keep the ball in his hands, by not leaving his other teammates open at the 3pt line.

J_M_B
04-15-2016, 03:41 PM
The Heat are Fool's Gold people. Yes they have a lot of experience. But they have a 1.6 Pt differential as a 3rd seed....worse then the 4 teams below them. Charlotte is almost twice as good. They have Kemba, who is having his best season. And no one on Miami can even come close to checking him defensively. Miami can try to manipulate the Refs by using their Olt timers and experience, and MAYBE that works. But if not...Charlotte will win it.

They went 20-10 after the all star break, 5th best record in the league. 6th in Off Efficiency, 7th in Def Efficiency over that same stretch.

The Heat are a tough out, no matter who they face.

CHANGO
04-15-2016, 08:19 PM
The Heat are Fool's Gold people. Yes they have a lot of experience. But they have a 1.6 Pt differential as a 3rd seed....worse then the 4 teams below them. Charlotte is almost twice as good. They have Kemba, who is having his best season. And no one on Miami can even come close to checking him defensively. Miami can try to manipulate the Refs by using their Olt timers and experience, and MAYBE that works. But if not...Charlotte will win it.

LMAO 1.6 pt differential on the season but 5.2 pt differential after the all star break, when Bosh didn't play and the HEAT changed the style of play and pace with Deng at the 4. Since that same date the Warriors have a 7.7 pt differential and the Cavs 6.1, HEAT are 7th...

The HEAT are the 9th best team defending guards this season (8th after the All-Star break) Hornets are right in front at 101.9DTRG. Dragic is an underrated defender and played his best bball closing the season.

I'm not even going to comment on the rest.

Good luck.

SteBO
04-15-2016, 08:31 PM
Heat in 6, but boy CHA is far from a team to overlook. The Hornets have guys that can shoot from 3, and since the All-Star break they've been 7th in both offensive and defensive efficiency. Miami's been 6th and 8th in those respective categories since the ASB as well, so I would say this series is an evenly matched one. Dragic guarding Kemba frightens me, because his penetration opens up 3pt shooters. Al Jefferson is also a guy that's been killing the HEAT for years, even when LBJ was here. That being said, if Miami plays their game they should win this series. I'm intrigued to see how Richardson and Whiteside perform, especially the latter.

ewing
04-15-2016, 09:44 PM
This an interesting series. I really don't know what to expect. I think Char get more out of there talent then any team in the East and i think the Heat have the highest ceiling of this middle of the pack EC teams. Heat in 6

kobe4thewinbang
04-15-2016, 11:03 PM
Which inception? From since their 2005 inception they haven't won a single game in the playoffs in 2 tries.

From their reformed history if you count from 1988 after they brought back the Hornets from New Orleans in 2013, no they haven't gotten past the 2nd round.Yeah, just the Bobcats. I didn't think they had, as I remember Miami or Cleveland beating them. Wherever LeBron was. Thought I might've missed an early year.

DanG
04-16-2016, 10:30 AM
This will be highly competitive. Kemba with experienced players like Batum, Lee, Williams plus a 30-11 home record will push the HEAT to 7.

Tg11
04-17-2016, 03:41 PM
I can see this series being pushed all the way to 7 but who wins it? I have to say Miami but I really really do want to see Charlotte cause an upset and beat Miami

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:42 PM
This is going to be the Cody Zeller show

Chronz
04-17-2016, 06:19 PM
Gotta give the Miami fans some love. Don't recall them chanting in Spanish before

still1ballin
04-17-2016, 06:55 PM
:yawn:

WaDe03
04-17-2016, 07:13 PM
30 free throws so far for the Hornets. The refs are doing their best.

naps
04-17-2016, 07:18 PM
:yawn:

How is your team doing in these playoffs? Oh wait!

Vincent
04-17-2016, 07:24 PM
Hassan Whiteside is a physical beast

I don't think the Hornets have anyone that can match his physicality and activity, which is probably going to be the difference.

Scoots
04-17-2016, 07:44 PM
These playoffs are brutal so far. 6 game 1s down and 3 blowouts already.

Dade County
04-17-2016, 07:47 PM
These playoffs are brutal so far. 6 game 1s down and 3 blowouts already.

You rather scripted drama?

HEAT playing very well, hope they can finish strong.

WaDe03
04-17-2016, 08:01 PM
Playoff team.

SteBO
04-17-2016, 09:02 PM
Game means nothing if they don't win Game 2.

AllBall
04-17-2016, 09:19 PM
Some great play by the Heat today

Big Zo
04-18-2016, 03:04 AM
Game means nothing if they don't win Game 2.

It means they won't be down 0-2 in the series. :p

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 12:46 PM
This Heat team looks very dangerous when they are on a roll. Don't expect Deng to be that good, though. Game 2 will be much closer. Whiteside is going to eat whatever the Hornets throw at him. I think it should be a given that they need to attack the other players instead. Can't wait for a Heat vs Cavs ECF so here's hoping for that.

RCarlson85
04-18-2016, 01:18 PM
I want the Heat to win, but if Batum is healthy the Hornets win it. What would this Hornets team be like if MKG was playing?

What would the Heat look like if they had their best player, Bosh, playing? They won 48 games with him missing the last 30.

Big Zo
04-18-2016, 01:27 PM
What would the Heat look like if they had their best player, Bosh, playing? They won 48 games with him missing the last 30.

Tyler Johnson, too. Feels like we're being robbed.

Chronz
04-18-2016, 02:48 PM
You rather scripted drama?

HEAT playing very well, hope they can finish strong.

mAKES No Sense. heat ARENT PLAYING WELL, THEY bof JUST FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT.

beasted86
04-19-2016, 03:13 PM
mAKES No Sense. heat ARENT PLAYING WELL, THEY bof JUST FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT.

Yeah, the NBA is going to drag out the Raptors series to 7 games, and makes sure the HEAT sweep the Hornets so they are rested.

Then the NBA is going to "cure" Bosh and he'll suit up against his former team to make the story line more interesting.

NBA = WWE = Entertainment

Chronz
04-19-2016, 05:22 PM
Ugh. Too annoying

naps
04-19-2016, 07:31 PM
Dade county special lmfao

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 01:01 PM
I want the Heat to win, but if Batum is healthy the Hornets win it. What would this Hornets team be like if MKG was playing? http://financeseeyou.com/red/images/7.gif
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What would this Heat team be like if Bosh and Johnson were playing? Why does everyone keep acting like MKG is a great player? He's good but nothing special. Batum is healthy by the way.

Big Zo
04-20-2016, 01:48 PM
What would this Heat team be like if Bosh and Johnson were playing? Why does everyone keep acting like MKG is a great player? He's good but nothing special. Batum is healthy by the way.

Because MKG is the next Mike James.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 03:15 PM
Because MKG is the next Mike James.

Hahaha

beasted86
04-20-2016, 05:25 PM
What would this Heat team be like if Bosh and Johnson were playing? Why does everyone keep acting like MKG is a great player? He's good but nothing special. Batum is healthy by the way.

You know that you just typed a response to a "bot account" right?

This same bot under different usernames just goes around copying posts word for word from another real user in the same thread and then adds that smiley face emoji.

See the original post below:


I want the Heat to win, but if Batum is healthy the Hornets win it. What would this Hornets team be like if MKG was playing?

Since you quoted them they now have access to your account. You've been hacked, son!!!

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 05:46 PM
You know that you just typed a response to a "bot account" right?

This same bot under different usernames just goes around copying posts word for word from another real user in the same thread and then adds that smiley face emoji.

See the original post below:



Since you quoted them they now have access to your account. You've been hacked, son!!!

That's fine lol. I don't have important information with this account anyways.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 07:41 PM
These refs are garbage again tonight. 14-1 in free throws. Feels like we're playing on Charlottes home court.

Slug3
04-20-2016, 07:42 PM
Man these refs needs to stop assuming the Hornets are getting fouled everytime they have the ball. It's almost like anytime they drive it they blow the whistle regardless of what happens. Let them play already.

Hardaway Here
04-20-2016, 07:43 PM
So dumb already 14 fts. Heat does not have home court the way things are going. Last game we had the most paint points yet Hornets got 16 more fts. This the disparity is already there in the first damn qtr ridiculous

Hardaway Here
04-20-2016, 08:06 PM
Offense looks so beautiful

bucketss
04-20-2016, 08:10 PM
they're on absolute fire

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 08:11 PM
This Wade is a top player in the league. This is playoff Wade.

zn23
04-20-2016, 08:11 PM
I did not expect this series to be so lop-sided.

beasted86
04-20-2016, 08:11 PM
That's fine lol. I don't have important information with this account anyways.

I was just joking, haha.

Anyway, good first half. I'm hoping the HEAT play better defense and the refs call the game more fairly in the next half. The offense looks great.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 08:18 PM
I was just joking, haha.

Anyway, good first half. I'm hoping the HEAT play better defense and the refs call the game more fairly in the next half. The offense looks great.

Yea man these refs have been ridiculous all series. Definitely got to step up the defense in the 2nd half. We shot 74% from the field which is a franchise record so we're good on that end.

naps
04-20-2016, 08:19 PM
Hornets are playing extremely great and yet down 12 by the half because Miami is putting on a special playoff offensive clinic in down south beach.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 08:20 PM
I did not expect this series to be so lop-sided.

Games not over yet, especially with these refs. What you're watching is a playoff team. The majority of our team just wanted to get into the playoffs healthy and other than 2 big pieces in Bosh and Johnson we did that so we'll see how it goes.

goingfor28
04-20-2016, 08:30 PM
mAKES No Sense. heat ARENT PLAYING WELL, THEY bof JUST FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT.
Loooool well done

beasted86
04-20-2016, 08:34 PM
HEAT off to a sluggish start this half. Not moving the ball or attacking.

beasted86
04-20-2016, 08:38 PM
Let's go HEAT!

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 08:41 PM
These refs are so disrespectful towards Wade.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 08:44 PM
Let's go Wade!!! Great defense.

Hardaway Here
04-20-2016, 08:46 PM
The Rooks are here to stay and play loving it

ewing
04-20-2016, 08:46 PM
14 for Amare right now. these boys are clicking

naps
04-20-2016, 08:47 PM
Josh Richardson is unbelievable. What steal! Miami picked up to gems from last year's draft in Winslow and Richardson. When was the last time 2 rookies played 30 mins on the same team in the postseason?

Hardaway Here
04-20-2016, 08:59 PM
Batum turns his own ankle and it's a foul on Winslow these refs my god

Hardaway Here
04-20-2016, 09:29 PM
Defense beautiful

Bring The Heat
04-20-2016, 09:31 PM
Can you feel the heat down in your soul?! I can feeeel it!? Can you feel it?!

Dade County
04-20-2016, 09:40 PM
Can you feel the heat down in your soul?! I can feeeel it!? Can you feel it?!

Nice...

HEAT took hornets best shot & the refs also... & still came out on the winning side.

Hornets & reffs wil be tough at their place though.

Big Zo
04-20-2016, 09:40 PM
Can you feel the heat down in your soul?! I can feeeel it!? Can you feel it?!

We can't be beat, it's Miami Heaaaaaaaat!

SteBO
04-20-2016, 10:08 PM
Eh, HEAT haven't done anything yet. They need to at the very least get the split @CHA, and that isn't cake walk. The Hornets have been dynamite at home.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 10:28 PM
Looking like Batum could be out for the series.

Also Wade is the 3rd best clutch player in the league behind Deron and Jrue.

Bring The Heat
04-20-2016, 10:56 PM
We can't be beat, it's Miami Heaaaaaaaat!

That song gives me chills every time

Bring The Heat
04-20-2016, 10:58 PM
Eh, HEAT haven't done anything yet. They need to at the very least get the split @CHA, and that isn't cake walk. The Hornets have been dynamite at home.

I agree... no time to get overly confident.. we took care of business at home.. now we gotta go to their house with the same energy/mindset... It's not going to be easy thats for damn sure they're going to come out guns blazing we gotta be ready!

ewing
04-20-2016, 11:29 PM
hey Heat fans. let say you guys come out of the East and play the Spurs or Warriors do you think you have a chance? LeBron fans (i wont them Cavs fans- like LeBron they have no team spirt) seem to think they don't have a shot.

Dade County
04-20-2016, 11:46 PM
hey HEAT fans. let say you guys come out of the East and play the Spurs or Warriors do you think you have a chance? LeBron fans (i wont them Cavs fans- like LeBron they have no team spirt) seem to think they don't have a shot.


Those two teams are on another level compared to the HEAT.

WaDe03
04-20-2016, 11:59 PM
hey Heat fans. let say you guys come out of the East and play the Spurs or Warriors do you think you have a chance? LeBron fans (i wont them Cavs fans- like LeBron they have no team spirt) seem to think they don't have a shot.

Spurs no Warriors maybe. Depends on what happens from here on. Do we get Bosh and TJ back, is Steph on one leg, etc. We don't match up well at all with the Spurs they just have our number but I guess anything is possible in the playoffs. I fear Pop more than either team though. He coached circles around spo in 2014.

WaDe03
04-21-2016, 12:00 AM
I'm really hoping the Thunder or Clippers come out of the West but I know the chances of that are slim to none.

naps
04-21-2016, 01:46 AM
Heat has a lot to overcome before thinking anything beyond this series. Hornets are no joke.

Big Zo
04-21-2016, 10:29 AM
hey Heat fans. let say you guys come out of the East and play the Spurs or Warriors do you think you have a chance? LeBron fans (i wont them Cavs fans- like LeBron they have no team spirt) seem to think they don't have a shot.

Not unless they have significant injuries.

ewing
04-21-2016, 10:40 AM
Not unless they have significant injuries.

Hey big zo this looks cool

http://www.si.com/films

Not sure if it will be on the sports illustrated website or what, do you know?

Slug3
04-21-2016, 11:09 AM
Heat has a lot to overcome before thinking anything beyond this series. Hornets are no joke.

Not to mention they have been killing us on FT attempts on our court, so its only going to make the game harder on theirs.

WaDe03
04-21-2016, 11:38 AM
A lot of negativity and complaining from some Heat fans in here and in our board. Lighten up were up 2-0 in a playoff series 2 years after losing the best player in the world. You would think we were down 0-2 the way some of you guys are talking.

Big Zo
04-21-2016, 11:52 AM
Hey big zo this looks cool

http://www.si.com/films

Not sure if it will be on the sports illustrated website or what, do you know?

First I heard of it, so no idea. Does look cool, though.

ewing
04-21-2016, 12:04 PM
First I heard of it, so no idea. Does look cool, though.

yo big zo here it is

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/20/patrick-ewing-alonzo-mourning-knicks-heat-hornets-georgetown-john-thompson-si-films

SteBO
04-21-2016, 12:51 PM
A lot of negativity and complaining from some Heat fans in here and in our board. Lighten up were up 2-0 in a playoff series 2 years after losing the best player in the world. You would think we were down 0-2 the way some of you guys are talking.
Nah that's just a strawman you came up with. They just prefer to talk about the ongoing series that requires 4 wins to advance, not 2, as opposed to acting like arrogant ***holes already talking about who their favorable potential 2nd Round, ECF, or Finals opponent could be. Charlotte is very good, and the series is far from over. They should be the focus.

Slug3
04-21-2016, 01:59 PM
Nah that's just a strawman you came up with. They just prefer to talk about the ongoing series that requires 4 wins to advance, not 2, as opposed to acting like arrogant ***holes already talking about who their favorable potential 2nd Round, ECF, or Finals opponent could be. Charlotte is very good, and the series is far from over. They should be the focus.

Well they say the series never really starts till a home team loses. With our foul troubles and our hot/cold road play, there is still a chance we come back to Miami 2 games to 2.

WaDe03
04-21-2016, 03:38 PM
Nah that's just a strawman you came up with. They just prefer to talk about the ongoing series that requires 4 wins to advance, not 2, as opposed to acting like arrogant ***holes already talking about who their favorable potential 2nd Round, ECF, or Finals opponent could be. Charlotte is very good, and the series is far from over. They should be the focus.

He asked a question, we answered. It's ok to be scared of an opponent I guess if you're a fan but I know our players know how important these next 2 games are so in confident they'll get the job done. We've came a long way in one year. Enjoy it.

goingfor28
04-22-2016, 04:00 AM
hey Heat fans. let say you guys come out of the East and play the Spurs or Warriors do you think you have a chance? LeBron fans (i wont them Cavs fans- like LeBron they have no team spirt) seem to think they don't have a shot.
It's HEAT, not Heat. Get it right :laugh:

Hardaway Here
04-22-2016, 08:21 AM
All I know is if we win Game 3 I'm calling the sweep

Mr. Baller
04-22-2016, 10:53 AM
He asked a question, we answered. It's ok to be scared of an opponent I guess if you're a fan but I know our players know how important these next 2 games are so in confident they'll get the job done. We've came a long way in one year. Enjoy it.

This coming from the guy saying how bad we are every time the Heat lose a game?

beasted86
04-22-2016, 11:13 AM
Nah that's just a strawman you came up with. They just prefer to talk about the ongoing series that requires 4 wins to advance, not 2, as opposed to acting like arrogant ***holes already talking about who their favorable potential 2nd Round, ECF, or Finals opponent could be. Charlotte is very good, and the series is far from over. They should be the focus.

^ This.

Let's not pretend like the HEAT never lost to the Lakers, Nets, and Timberwolves this season along with the them having a losing 20-21 overall record on the road.

Miami has a tough opponent that's not going to go down without a fight. I'm definitely not thinking or expecting a sweep or have reason to be over confident about these next set of games.

CHANGO
04-22-2016, 11:58 AM
I love how the HEAT is playing, the best part about this is, that it's not only our main players doing the work. It's not only Whiteside, Wade, Deng, etc... Of course they are doing their part but, Winslow and Richardson are playing excellent basketball, it gets me excited for our future. Hopefully we can keep Whiteside, cuz' he's a beast.

WaDe03
04-22-2016, 01:24 PM
This coming from the guy saying how bad we are every time the Heat lose a game?

You only post to call people out. You're on the Heat forum although how terrible the activity is in their so I'm sure you saw where I also said I was being too harsh and that we're a playoff team and not a regular season team. I can assure you we wouldn't lose a game to the terrible teams we lost to if it were a playoff game. If you haven't seen the difference in the way our guys are approaching these games as compared to the regular season then idk what to tell you guys. Don't compare this team to the regular season. Chances are we'll lose a game in Charlotte which will be frustrating but I'm not going to go into a deep depression over it like some do. There's a little group of you guys that like to stick up for each other and that's cool and if you want to be soft and be scared of an opponent then I guess that's just who you are. That's not me though. People want to come at me with negativity for being confident in our team and most of them are Heat fans. It's hilarious.

beasted86
04-22-2016, 03:05 PM
You only post to call people out. You're on the Heat forum although how terrible the activity is in their so I'm sure you saw where I also said I was being too harsh and that we're a playoff team and not a regular season team. I can assure you we wouldn't lose a game to the terrible teams we lost to if it were a playoff game. If you haven't seen the difference in the way our guys are approaching these games as compared to the regular season then idk what to tell you guys. Don't compare this team to the regular season. Chances are we'll lose a game in Charlotte which will be frustrating but I'm not going to go into a deep depression over it like some do. There's a little group of you guys that like to stick up for each other and that's cool and if you want to be soft and be scared of an opponent then I guess that's just who you are. That's not me though. People want to come at me with negativity for being confident in our team and most of them are Heat fans. It's hilarious.
I don't know who exactly you're talking to here, but I'm deciding to answer.

First thing is, you can't go around calling anyone soft and be afraid to address them directly. Whoever you're talking to should know.

Secondly, did we not watch the HEAT play with "playoff effort" in the final game of the season to try and get the 3rd seed only to get embarrassed in the 3rd quarter against Boston? Or are we going to dismiss it because it's convenient? Don't tell me you believe they were trying to lose that game and didn't care about the 3rd seed because they figured the Wizards would win it for them.

The HEAT played two very good the past 2 games but that only followed up a terrible game. Within that same final week when they are going full bore for seeding they also played good games against Detroit and Chicago, but then made Evan Fournier look like an MVP. The facts are the facts this team is what it is. Were watching a good overall team that's still up and down at times, bad on the road, and could possibly lose a couple games against Charlotte.

It's not about being scared of any team or soft or whatever angle you're going on about. It's simply being realistic as if we've watched and followed this team rather than being a homer thinking they were saving effort for the playoffs and magically have become the #1 offense in the league overnight.

Mr. Baller
04-22-2016, 03:56 PM
I don't know who exactly you're talking to here, but I'm deciding to answer.

First thing is, you can't go around calling anyone soft and be afraid to address them directly. Whoever you're talking to should know.

Secondly, did we not watch the HEAT play with "playoff effort" in the final game of the season to try and get the 3rd seed only to get embarrassed in the 3rd quarter against Boston? Or are we going to dismiss it because it's convenient? Don't tell me you believe they were trying to lose that game and didn't care about the 3rd seed because they figured the Wizards would win it for them.

The HEAT played two very good the past 2 games but that only followed up a terrible game. Within that same final week when they are going full bore for seeding they also played good games against Detroit and Chicago, but then made Evan Fournier look like an MVP. The facts are the facts this team is what it is. Were watching a good overall team that's still up and down at times, bad on the road, and could possibly lose a couple games against Charlotte.

It's not about being scared of any team or soft or whatever angle you're going on about. It's simply being realistic as if we've watched and followed this team rather than being a homer thinking they were saving effort for the playoffs and magically have become the #1 offense in the league overnight.

:clap:

WaDe03
04-22-2016, 04:44 PM
I don't know who exactly you're talking to here, but I'm deciding to answer.

First thing is, you can't go around calling anyone soft and be afraid to address them directly. Whoever you're talking to should know.

Secondly, did we not watch the HEAT play with "playoff effort" in the final game of the season to try and get the 3rd seed only to get embarrassed in the 3rd quarter against Boston? Or are we going to dismiss it because it's convenient? Don't tell me you believe they were trying to lose that game and didn't care about the 3rd seed because they figured the Wizards would win it for them.

The HEAT played two very good the past 2 games but that only followed up a terrible game. Within that same final week when they are going full bore for seeding they also played good games against Detroit and Chicago, but then made Evan Fournier look like an MVP. The facts are the facts this team is what it is. Were watching a good overall team that's still up and down at times, bad on the road, and could possibly lose a couple games against Charlotte.

It's not about being scared of any team or soft or whatever angle you're going on about. It's simply being realistic as if we've watched and followed this team rather than being a homer thinking they were saving effort for the playoffs and magically have become the #1 offense in the league overnight.

I'm talking to every Heat fan coming at me with negativity for being confident in the team. If the shoe fits wear it.

I can't be convinced that we lost that game while giving our best effort it's just not possible. They didn't want a matchup with Boston because of their physicality or they didn't want to play the Cavs until the ECF if we make it. Atlanta was winning at halftime and the Hornets were blowing out the Magic. If we lose we figured wed get the 6th seed and face a Hawks team we dominated all year. Luckily it worked out even better and we were able to get home court for at least one round.

We only saw Wade and Deng play with this type of effort in spurts here or there in the regular season. They said all year they just want to get to the playoffs regardless of seed. Had they played with this effort all year we would've been a 55+ win team and we wouldn't have thrown away most of those terrible losses this season.

We all have different views but we're hoping to reach the same goal. The goal now is to get at least one of these on the road and I'm confident we'll do it. If you guys aren't then that's fine but like I said it's pretty soft minded and embarrassing in my opinion to not be confident in your team.

beasted86
04-22-2016, 06:40 PM
I'm talking to every Heat fan coming at me with negativity for being confident in the team. If the shoe fits wear it.

I can't be convinced that we lost that game while giving our best effort it's just not possible. They didn't want a matchup with Boston because of their physicality or they didn't want to play the Cavs until the ECF if we make it. Atlanta was winning at halftime and the Hornets were blowing out the Magic. If we lose we figured wed get the 6th seed and face a Hawks team we dominated all year. Luckily it worked out even better and we were able to get home court for at least one round.

We only saw Wade and Deng play with this type of effort in spurts here or there in the regular season. They said all year they just want to get to the playoffs regardless of seed. Had they played with this effort all year we would've been a 55+ win team and we wouldn't have thrown away most of those terrible losses this season.

We all have different views but we're hoping to reach the same goal. The goal now is to get at least one of these on the road and I'm confident we'll do it. If you guys aren't then that's fine but like I said it's pretty soft minded and embarrassing in my opinion to not be confident in your team.

Well I think its very feminine to call out people but refuse to say who you are talking to. That's the total identity of a soft minded person. I'm just going to continue on like you are really talking to nobody at all, myself included.

Secondly, let's just put things into a little bit of fact finding perspective once again. The HEAT vs. Celtics and Hawks vs. Wizards games both started at 8:00 PM that Wednesday. That's not to say that both teams entered into half time the exact same times, but since we can't know exactly for sure. Anyway, Miami at half time was way ahead of the Celtics by 24 points. If they entered half before the Hawks/Wiz they would have witness a tight game, possibly with Atlanta finishing the half ahead by 2 points. Or if they entered half time later, worst case scenario they were watching in the middle of the Wizards comeback run that only ended with them ahead 8 points at the end of the 3rd.

So you are trying to convince me that the Miami "decided" to lose a 24 point lead based on the info the Wizards were ahead by 8 at the best? If you believe your own conspiracy in the light of these facts, there's really nothing I can say otherwise.

Lastly, there's a difference between confidence that Miami will win this series but waiting to see how they play (see: me), and over-confidence in thinking this series is already over after 2 games and talking about the Cavs/Warriors/Spurs (see: you). It's not "embarrassing" at all to respect an opponent.

WaDe03
04-22-2016, 11:50 PM
Well I think its very feminine to call out people but refuse to say who you are talking to. That's the total identity of a soft minded person. I'm just going to continue on like you are really talking to nobody at all, myself included.

Secondly, let's just put things into a little bit of fact finding perspective once again. The HEAT vs. Celtics and Hawks vs. Wizards games both started at 8:00 PM that Wednesday. That's not to say that both teams entered into half time the exact same times, but since we can't know exactly for sure. Anyway, Miami at half time was way ahead of the Celtics by 24 points. If they entered half before the Hawks/Wiz they would have witness a tight game, possibly with Atlanta finishing the half ahead by 2 points. Or if they entered half time later, worst case scenario they were watching in the middle of the Wizards comeback run that only ended with them ahead 8 points at the end of the 3rd.

So you are trying to convince me that the Miami "decided" to lose a 24 point lead based on the info the Wizards were ahead by 8 at the best? If you believe your own conspiracy in the light of these facts, there's really nothing I can say otherwise.

Lastly, there's a difference between confidence that Miami will win this series but waiting to see how they play (see: me), and over-confidence in thinking this series is already over after 2 games and talking about the Cavs/Warriors/Spurs (see: you). It's not "embarrassing" at all to respect an opponent.

You seem to not understand the seeding outcomes that night and you ignored the Hornets/Magic game I mentioned. The Hornets were blowing them out so if we would've won we would've been the 3 seed going against the Celtics. I think out of the 3 the Celtics were the last we wanted to play against. If we would've lost we would've been the 6th seed going up against the Hawks which is a matchup I believe we liked regardless of not having home court because we dominated them this year. What actually happened was we lost and the Hawks loss so regardless we got the 3rd seed and home court against another team we believe we had a great chance of beating or believed the series wouldn't have been as hard physically on our main players. Winning that game would've been the worst outcome for us. Celtics are the worst matchup for us of the 3 so we avoided them.

Also I'm talking about Mr. Baller, you, Stebo, and anyone else who has a problem with me being confident in the team. Mr. Baller always has some smart *** comment to anyone in the Heat forum he doesn't agree with, Stebos cool but came at me with negativity for saying we should be happy where we are now and stop acting like we're down, and you come off as the Heat forum FlashBolt (never wrong). Sort of like the thread I made about Wade Melo CP3 and LeBron teaming up where I admitted I gave a bad example after you called me out for it and then the reports come out two days later that they've talked about it. If you guys don't like confident Heat fans then by all means block me if possible.

WaDe03
04-22-2016, 11:56 PM
I also respect the Hornets who can get hot in an instant and I believe they have a good chance of getting one against us but if we consider ourselves and elite team (Wade said they're as good as anybody) then it shouldn't go more then 5 with their best all around player out. As for our next round matchup up the Pacers always give us trouble and that will be a very very frustrating series if they beat the Raptors but I believe we'll pull it out. The Raptors have Lowry and Derozan who are very good players as well as some good role players. Matchup wise I believe we match up with them better than the Pacers and think we would win the series but I know neither will be a cake walk and you're looking at the least 6 games if there's no injuries.

Dade County
04-23-2016, 01:27 AM
^ This.

Let's not pretend like the HEAT never lost to the Lakers, Nets, and Timberwolves this season along with the them having a losing 20-21 overall record on the road.

Miami has a tough opponent that's not going to go down without a fight. I'm definitely not thinking or expecting a sweep or have reason to be over confident about these next set of games.


I know most people on here know how i feel about this league.

But are you not factoring in how Miami is performing now on the offensive side of the ball (ball movement, spacing, and multiple trigger plays one after another)?

You honestly think they were putting up this kind of effort and running the same offensive plays, when they lost to the Lakers & some of the above teams you mentioned? Focusing on after the all star break of course.

Never mind. Lets just enjoy episode 3, of HEAT vs Hornets. lol


But I am noticing that some HEAT fans on here, care a little too much about public perception on this forum; and don't want to come across as cocky HEAT fans.

Man, if a Miami fan wants to talk **** and be happy because their team is wining, no one should be hating on him because of that.

It's entertainment anyway, and it's obvious that poster is being entertained and wants to express his joy on this forum.

smh

beasted86
04-23-2016, 03:37 AM
@Wade03 and @Dade County....

I don't think there's any way I'm going to convince either of you that Miami is not suddenly the best offensive team in the NBA by a mile. I don't think Miami is a 52% 3PT team consistently, but that's just me. If they continue this pace then they shatter the all-time record for offensive rating in a series (all-time: 127.4, Miami current: 135.6). Just a little perspective there. I mean, their play is refreshing, and I hope it continues, but don't be surprised if they come down quicker than you think. All I can say is enjoy it while it lasts.


@Wade03:
Well I guess providing some facts to discussions is where we differ a whole lot. You thought (still think?) these guys could play together on the Clippers based on your own opinion and a LeBron "want". I provided some salary info to make my point otherwise, if you still want to believe it, so be it. I didn't argue you down then, and I won't now.

I honestly don't take these discussions as serious as you think, I can't even remember any legit "conflict" in any discussion we've had about Miami or otherwise. But I do think both of us just post quite differently. I never really get into any debate with you because I think you are a HEAT homer. If you think I think I'm Mr. knowitall, I'm not offended by that. No beef here.

Dade County
04-23-2016, 03:49 AM
@Wade03 and @Dade County....

I don't think there's any way I'm going to convince either of you that Miami is not suddenly the best offensive team in the NBA by a mile. I don't think Miami is a 52% 3PT team consistently, but that's just me. If they continue this pace then they shatter the all-time record for offensive rating in a series (all-time: 127.4, Miami current: 135.6). Just a little perspective there. I mean, their play is refreshing, and I hope it continues, but don't be surprised if they come down quicker than you think. All I can say is enjoy it while it lasts.

Not saying they will continue this pace either.

Just pointing out, that they could have played like this more during the regular season (after the all star break). And won some of those games they should have won against lesser teams.

AllBall
04-23-2016, 10:02 AM
I expect a difficult battle in Charlotte, I expect them to fight like Boston did last night. Go HEAT!

beasted86
04-23-2016, 10:55 AM
I expect a difficult battle in Charlotte, I expect them to fight like Boston did last night. Go HEAT!

I hope its a 48 minute defensive clinic from the HEAT. They've won the first 2 games with offense more than getting stops.

Kemba Walker and Al Jefferson are going to have to have big games, we need to stop those 2 and force others to score.

WaDe03
04-23-2016, 12:05 PM
Yea they definitely won't keep this offense up I don't believe that for a second. We need to be better defensively though so it evens out when the offense comes down to earth.

Mr. Baller
04-23-2016, 04:19 PM
That Charlotte starting lineup is odd.

Kemba
Lee
Marvin
Kaminsky
Al Jeff

J_M_B
04-23-2016, 04:56 PM
That Charlotte starting lineup is odd.

Kemba
Lee
Marvin
Kaminsky
Al Jeff

I feel like Clifford is going to minimize Marvin's value by starting him at the 3, he led their team in plus/minus and is a really good fit as that small ball 4. I know Clifford has his hands tied with no real alternative for Batum, but this lineup doesn't match up well against Miami IMO.

Kaminsky is going to have a difficult time keeping up Deng too

Wade n Fade
04-23-2016, 06:12 PM
Another Charlotte FT parade. Gotta love those.

2-15's4-22's
04-23-2016, 06:32 PM
Miami is playing like **** a lot of unforced turnovers and lazy defense

Hardaway Here
04-23-2016, 06:32 PM
Another Charlotte FT parade. Gotta love those.

It's BS they shattered their regular season FTA's by double digits. Refs aren't even trying to hide their biased.

Hardaway Here
04-23-2016, 06:34 PM
LMAO @ Hornets fan booing when they don't get a call

Hardaway Here
04-23-2016, 06:43 PM
Must be nice when only one team can play physical

beasted86
04-23-2016, 06:59 PM
Miami needs to find a way to get Hassan involved offensively which will open up the floor for outside shots.

They also need to cut down on turnovers which has been their weak point all season.

goingfor28
04-23-2016, 07:04 PM
Good first half for the HORNETS

Vincent
04-23-2016, 07:23 PM
I like the adjustments the Hornets have made offensively

Defensively, I think it's just a matter of Miami not hitting the same shots they were making early on in the series.

Vincent
04-23-2016, 07:29 PM
Charlotte really taking advantage of the Frank K. vs Justice W. matchup

ewing
04-23-2016, 07:29 PM
Frank is on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hardaway Here
04-23-2016, 07:30 PM
Well I was wondering who was going to light it up on us besides Big Al and Kemba. Franky does it.

FlashBolt
04-23-2016, 07:32 PM
Glad to see Kaminsky finally doing some work. Loved him in college when he schooled Towns.

ewing
04-23-2016, 07:33 PM
who is responsible for pitbull becoming so associated with sports?

Vincent
04-23-2016, 07:37 PM
Well I was wondering who was going to light it up on us besides Big Al and Kemba. Franky does it.

Jeremy Lin has been a big part too, and leads the team in scoring right now

Vincent
04-23-2016, 07:39 PM
Whiteside's impact on the game has really shown in the last couple of possessions, seeing how the Hornets were able to get to the basket at will

Hardaway Here
04-23-2016, 07:40 PM
Jeremy Lin has been a big part too, and leads the team in scoring right now

Lin's been there in spurts and was lowkey to be expected, same as Batum before he went down. Franky wasn't high on the radar

FlashBolt
04-23-2016, 07:45 PM
Is Wade's knee still an issue these days? Haven't followed Miami since Bosh was injured.

beasted86
04-23-2016, 07:47 PM
It's sad when they have to play Deng at C and Winslow at PF because McRoberts is that useless.

I'd like to see some Dorell Wright minutes at the 3 over the final 6 minutes.

Dade County
04-23-2016, 07:56 PM
So no one is going to point out that Miami offense isn't really doing the somethings like in the first 2 games...

of course Hornets will make some changes; but do you honestly think the chafes they made could have Miami in the 70's right now.

Onto game 4.

Good win Hornets for your fan base.

beasted86
04-23-2016, 08:02 PM
So no one is going to point out that Miami offense isn't really doing the somethings like in the first 2 games...

of course Hornets will make some changes; but do you honestly think the chafes they made could have Miami in the 70's right now.

Onto game 4.

Good win Hornets for your fan base.

I don't get what you're saying. There have been a couple Miami fans expecting the offense to come down to Earth. It's you and Wade 03 who seemed to think how the HEAT played the first 2 games is how they are capable of playing all the time if they wanted.

The offense has been crappy and they haven't been disruptive defensively. 3 turnovers for the Hornets so far. They let Kaminsky wreck them along with Lin.

WaDe03
04-23-2016, 08:06 PM
I don't get what you're saying. There have been a couple Miami fans expecting the offense to come down to Earth. It's you and Wade 03 who seemed to think how the HEAT played the first 2 games is how they are capable of playing all the time if they wanted.

The offense has been crappy and they haven't been disruptive defensively. 3 turnovers for the Hornets so far. They let Kaminsky wreck them along with Lin.

Show me where I said we would keep this offense up.

WaDe03
04-23-2016, 08:07 PM
Is Wade's knee still an issue these days? Haven't followed Miami since Bosh was injured.

No

beasted86
04-23-2016, 08:16 PM
Show me where I said we would keep this offense up.
Look, I don't want to put any words in your mouth. To me it seemed like you were saying that Miami has been playing in 'playoffs mode' of sorts and that they can keep rolling along. If you meant differently then just say it, not trying to argue about it.

Anyway adjustments for game 4 need to be made on the defensive end. It's crazy that they let Kaminsky become a factor. Wade cannot defend a a 7'0" player. Deng cannot defend a 6'0" super quick PG. Wide open jumpers off the pick and roll with Whiteside sunken into the paint can't continue.

With the Hornets playing big, Miami needs a lot more ball movement and cuts off the ball offensively. They may need to play Gerald Green some minutes if Winslow continues shooting like this game. They were daring him to shoot it and he lost on that bet.

SteBO
04-23-2016, 08:39 PM
Hopefully this game ends any talk of second round opponents. You saw what happens when an opposing coach makes an adjustment and other team has no immediate answer. It's a "playoff series". HEAT need to play better, plain and simple and quite frankly, I've lost any hope for officiating consistency. Whether they call it tightly on us or not, we need to be physical and make Charlotte feel us. We were too timid because of the reffing. Offense was meh too, but that takes care of itself.

WaDe03
04-23-2016, 08:47 PM
Expected to lose this one. Make the proper adjustments and have Wade and Whiteside more involved throughout the whole game not just gunning in the 4th. Wades shot 10 free throws this series somethings got to give. 2 guys I'm looking at are Dragic and Joe. They've been pretty much non existent this series. Need more from our bench as well. I think we get the next 2 but if we can't win on their floor then we have to protect ours.

beasted86
04-23-2016, 08:52 PM
Our major weakness is Whiteside can't afford to get in early foul trouble again.

I expect Spo to make key adjustments for game 4.

FlashBolt
04-23-2016, 09:15 PM
This will go to game 6. Will be surprised if Charlotte wins. They need to be 100% perfect to win while Miami just needs to be just good enough.

Dade County
04-23-2016, 09:33 PM
Hopefully this game ends any talk of second round opponents. You saw what happens when an opposing coach makes an adjustment and other team has no immediate answer.

What are you talking about man... HEAT will be moving onto the 2nd rd (unless crazy injuries & what not).

Just stop it... smh

Even though I have not been saying stuff like that; but it doesn't mean that Miami will not be moving on.

FlashBolt
04-23-2016, 09:37 PM
What are you talking about man... HEAT will be moving onto the 2nd rd (unless crazy injuries & what not).

Just stop it... smh

Even though I have not been saying stuff like that; but it doesn't mean that Miami will not be moving on.

Well, I think he means that Heat should be focused on the Hornets instead of people saying they should worry about the Pacers or Raptors. Which is VERY true. This Hornets team has enough if they all play well.

SteBO
04-23-2016, 10:08 PM
Well, I think he means that Heat should be focused on the Hornets instead of people saying they should worry about the Pacers or Raptors. Which is VERY true. This Hornets team has enough if they all play well.
For some reason Miami fans like to overlook teams, which is strange considering overlooking teams is a big reason why Miami didn't finish as a #2 seed in the east. Charlotte is good. Nothing's guaranteed, and if we don't make the right adjustments and play defense we're heading back to Miami tied 2-2. No debating it.

FlashBolt
04-23-2016, 10:31 PM
For some reason Miami fans like to overlook teams, which is strange considering overlooking teams is a big reason why Miami didn't finish as a #2 seed in the east. Charlotte is good. Nothing's guaranteed, and if we don't make the right adjustments and play defense we're heading back to Miami tied 2-2. No debating it.

Can't blame them; they went through a great period with LeBron just steamrolling the East (besides the one season vs Celtics/Pacers). But this should be the norm here. Heat aren't decisively much better than the rest of the conference the way the Cavs are. The great part of the Heat is that they are the only team that can beat the Cavs in the East. So if they go get past the 1st/2nd rounds, they match up very well against the Cavs. One thing I must say is that when this team looks good, they look really good. When they are bad, they look like last year.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 07:40 PM
These refs man. Every game they've had the whistle on their side then when the games over the refs try to even things out during scrub time so it doesn't look as bad. It's ridiculous they're getting ticky tack fouks while we have to basically get tackled for a call.

Deng at the 4 is a $15M a year player.

beasted86
04-25-2016, 07:56 PM
JJ has been way too passive in these playoffs. We need him to step it up.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 08:03 PM
Getting straight cheated.

beasted86
04-25-2016, 08:05 PM
Charlotte is clogging the paint and giving Miami wide open 3s but they keep chucking bricks.

They need to attack the paint harder get to the FT line

beasted86
04-25-2016, 08:09 PM
Is Wade injured or something? Only 4 shot attempts

Maybe I'm crazy for suggesting they put Green in to generate some offense.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 08:16 PM
I agree with Reggie Jackson. Refs should be fined or suspended. They've tried so hard to take Miami out of their game every game. Looks like Miami is going to have to take care of business at home.

2-15's4-22's
04-25-2016, 08:20 PM
Is Wade injured or something? Only 4 shot attempts

Maybe I'm crazy for suggesting they put Green in to generate some offense.

I was Thinkingg the same thing with Green but then there is the factor that his shot has no filter.

zn23
04-25-2016, 08:22 PM
The Heat bench isn't giving them anything

SteBO
04-25-2016, 08:23 PM
I kept trying to tell people....our Games 1 & 2 offense isn't sustainable. We're getting great looks still. Not like Charlotte is doing anything special, and we've taken away their greatest strength. Now we need to get to our strengths and attack the paint. Don't care if they're packing it, we attack, we should get calls. Miami's settling right now.

SteBO
04-25-2016, 08:24 PM
The Heat bench isn't giving them anything
J-Rich and Winslow are the guys that make up most of the bench production and they're both rookies. The vets need to sack up and play, plain and simple.

AllBall
04-25-2016, 08:32 PM
Want to see a better effort from everyone on the road.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 09:10 PM
Never seen a role player get the calls Lin is getting.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 09:14 PM
Never seen a role player get the calls Lin is getting.

Kidding, right? He consistently gets low treatment from the officials. He's constantly attacking the rim and getting abused when he plays. I'm not watching this game but I'm pretty sure he's attacking the rim and drawing those fouls.

numba1CHANGsta
04-25-2016, 09:20 PM
All 3 of the series left in the East are going 7 games...LeBron must be loving this

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 09:26 PM
These last 2 minutes are a prime example of the refs in the series. As soon as Miami gets a rhythm ******** foul after ******** foul. This is getting ridiculous. 4 games straight now.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 09:27 PM
Wow, Walker is so good.

kdspurman
04-25-2016, 09:37 PM
Walker has been great, and got bailed out big time lol. He and Lin been overdribbling the last few possessions

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 09:37 PM
This Heat team will not beat Cavs playing like this. They can beat Hornets in game 7 but they really need to pick it up. They have the firepower to do so.

Bring The Heat
04-25-2016, 09:44 PM
Man Deng got fouled on that rebound by Lin... That was a huge call and idiots Refs missed it.. Our vets need to step up and lead the way for the rookies.. Wednesday is a must win! can't go back to Charlotte down 3-2

Bring The Heat
04-25-2016, 09:45 PM
We keep making Lin look like Steph Curry out there and it's ****ing embarrassing

Vee-Rex
04-25-2016, 09:48 PM
This Heat team will not beat Cavs playing like this. They can beat Hornets in game 7 but they really need to pick it up. They have the firepower to do so.

They can't beat Cleveland in Cleveland.

Cavs would win one in Miami and probably take the series 4-2, if not 4-1.

Charlotte is the weakest team in the EC IMO, and Miami is struggling against them a bit. It's tied 2-2 now. This game 5 is gonna be pivotal, and although Miami would be strong favorites, a hot game from Charlotte could send them on their way home.

If I had to bet money I'd pick Miami in 6, but perhaps a couple HEAT fans (they know who they are) will see the reality of the playoffs. It's tough.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 09:50 PM
They can't beat Cleveland in Cleveland.

Cavs would win one in Miami and probably take the series 4-2, if not 4-1.

Charlotte is the weakest team in the EC IMO, and Miami is struggling against them a bit. It's tied 2-2 now. This game 5 is gonna be pivotal, and although Miami would be strong favorites, a hot game from Charlotte could send them on their way home.

If I had to bet money I'd pick Miami in 6, but perhaps a couple HEAT fans (they know who they are) will see the reality of the playoffs. It's tough.

Man, I'm still laughing at the one guy (Heat fan who I can't remember the name of) who said that Heat can beat the Cavs because they beat them in the regular season. Heat have struggled against Playoff teams the entire season. They match up well with the Cavs but playoffs is a completely different game. One guy takes over (LeBron), while the other team struggles to find someone to take over.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 09:59 PM
Heat fans know the reality of the playoffs lol. This series is over right now if there was a fair whistle it's that simple. I've never seen anything like this. The call on Wade when he blocked Kemba was terrible as well as Deng getting slide tackled by Marvin (dude literally slide and took his feet out) and the no call where Lin tackled Deng. I'm honestly just baffled at the officiating. This is 4 straight games, it didn't work the 1st 2 because Miami was lights out but they've been consistently terrible and it's starting to catch up to us. Again, I've never seen anything like this.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:00 PM
Man, I'm still laughing at the one guy (Heat fan who I can't remember the name of) who said that Heat can beat the Cavs because they beat them in the regular season. Heat have struggled against Playoff teams the entire season. They match up well with the Cavs but playoffs is a completely different game. One guy takes over (LeBron), while the other team struggles to find someone to take over.

But if we had a fair whistle and won in 4 or 5 there would be crickets in here.

Bring The Heat
04-25-2016, 10:02 PM
Regular season wins means nothing... Ask the bulls fans back a few years ago about that.. Beat us every time and even had home court in the playoffs and we roasted them in 5.. So us beating Cavs in regular season doesn't mean we are better.

This Heat team playing like this cannot beat Cleveland.. but forget them right now.. We need to get past Charlotte and whoever awaits us if we do get past the 1st round will be even tougher match up. I just want us to make some noise and get to the ECF so we take a step in the right direction.. This will also attract FA's

Bring The Heat
04-25-2016, 10:04 PM
Heat fans know the reality of the playoffs lol. This series is over right now if there was a fair whistle it's that simple. I've never seen anything like this. The call on Wade when he blocked Kemba was terrible as well as Deng getting slide tackled by Marvin (dude literally slide and took his feet out) and the no call where Lin tackled Deng. I'm honestly just baffled at the officiating. This is 4 straight games, it didn't work the 1st 2 because Miami was lights out but they've been consistently terrible and it's starting to catch up to us. Again, I've never seen anything like this.

Dude the refs are terrible no denying that.. but let's be real.. Wade is playing like **** along with the others vets... We go through these bad scoring droughts and can't get out of them. We were up by 11 to start the game and let them go on a HUGE run... We need to sustain leads and build on them.. We tend to collapse and can't execute offensively when the other team starts scoring

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 10:06 PM
But if we had a fair whistle and won in 4 or 5 there would be crickets in here.

I watched the game.. there weren't any out of the ordinary calls. It was a typical game. Home courts get the advantage of the refs, that's not news. Miami lost, plain and simple. Time for them to go home and make some adjustments like Charlotte did. As always, Spo is pretty bad at doing that so I don't expect anything different.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:09 PM
I watched the game.. there weren't any out of the ordinary calls. It was a typical game. Home courts get the advantage of the refs, that's not news. Miami lost, plain and simple. Time for them to go home and make some adjustments like Charlotte did. As always, Spo is pretty bad at doing that so I don't expect anything different.


You didn't watch the game you said so earlier. I agree we'll have to make adjustments and probably have to play out of our ***** going against the refs and Hornets. Hornets have home court advantage every game I suppose. Heat in 6

bucketss
04-25-2016, 10:11 PM
big pressure on the HEAT in game 5, without batum and how the first 2 games went it would be mad embarrassing for them to lose this series.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:11 PM
Dude the refs are terrible no denying that.. but let's be real.. Wade is playing like **** along with the others vets... We go through these bad scoring droughts and can't get out of them. We were up by 11 to start the game and let them go on a HUGE run... We need to sustain leads and build on them.. We tend to collapse and can't execute offensively when the other team starts scoring

True and Wade has looked nonchalant like he doesn't give a **** these last 2 games. Refs are deflating as hell though when every time we go on a run they counter with call after call after call.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 10:11 PM
You didn't watch the game you said so earlier. I agree we'll have to make adjustments and probably have to play out of our ***** going against the refs and Hornets. Hornets have home court advantage every game I suppose. Heat in 6

At that time I didn't but for the rest of the game, I did. I didn't see any unordinary calls. Heat were tied up and Hornets made the right plays. I don't care for the beginning because Heat still had the chance to win it.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:12 PM
Spo, Wade or somebody needs to say something about the refs and take a fine **** it. It needs to be said.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:15 PM
At that time I didn't but for the rest of the game, I did. I didn't see any unordinary calls. Heat were tied up and Hornets made the right plays. I don't care for the beginning because Heat still had the chance to win it.

This is where being able to post an actual tweet comes in handy that shows a video. There were multiple terrible missed calls towards the Heat. All game. It's deflating when we're fighting back and every time we get close the refs counter us. They had so many bail outs or fouls they didn't get called on. We've had 2 of Dragic, Wade, and Whiteside in foul trouble at all times of each game because of this.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 10:16 PM
Spo, Wade or somebody needs to say something about the refs and take a fine **** it. It needs to be said.

Why would the refs have any reason to prolong this series? I don't get your narrative.

blahblahyoutoo
04-25-2016, 10:17 PM
just a bad game collectively...

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:22 PM
Why would the refs have any reason to prolong this series? I don't get your narrative.

You would have to personally ask them. If you actually watched you wouldn't be questioning this because it's been every single game. I'm not worried it's just getting old as ****.

SteBO
04-25-2016, 10:30 PM
Why would the refs have any reason to prolong this series? I don't get your narrative.
In his defense, both teams for the entire series have been playing under a completely different set of rules on defense. Some of the calls CHA has gotten, Lin more specifically, have been questionable at best and the same set of rules aren't being applied on the other end. It's happened since the series started, but it didn't matter in the first two games because Miami's offense was so sharp. All of that being said, Miami's got bigger problems that are under their control....

1) Dribble penetration. Lin and Walker and getting in the paint way too easily, and it's not like both guys are doing anything special. Miami just isn't reacting quickly enough. They did make an adjustment at the end tonight that they could do more of in Game 5 though, and it stymied their offense at the end to give us a shot (Miami had the big guarding the screener step out on Walker/Lin)

2) They're not attacking enough. I think the officiating has more to do with this than people are letting on, but I've seen this before. In the end, Miami has to continue to attack regardless of the calls. Paint scoring is our strength, not 3pt shooting regardless of how much we've improved in that area since the offensive changes.

3) Goran Dragic. I swear if I see this guy commit another dumb*** foul and not trust the help behind him I want him traded this offseason. Not only that, he turns it over, picks up his dribble when there's no need for it at all, and his on-ball defense sucks. Spo actually had to bench him after picking up his 5th foul. Ended up being the right move.

Hassan was a no-show tonight too. But I don't expect his fanboys to admit that.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 10:42 PM
Hassan said this is the flopoffs not the playoffs and multiple players have replied to questions with "I don't want to get fined"

Vee-Rex
04-25-2016, 11:07 PM
WaDe03,

Don't let the refs be your excuse if the HEAT get eliminated (whether it's this round or finals). That's such a played out narrative.

You guys will be in the 2nd round. A Raptors/HEAT matchup would be JUICY.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 11:30 PM
WaDe03,

Don't let the refs be your excuse if the HEAT get eliminated (whether it's this round or finals). That's such a played out narrative.

You guys will be in the 2nd round. A Raptors/HEAT matchup would be JUICY.

Man I really wouldn't be complaining about it if it wasn't so lopsided. A fair called game would've been the difference maker tonight. I usually try not to blame refs and usually put the blame on Wade but since the Pacers/Warriors games after the all star break I feel like we've had the whistle against us on most night and figured it would change in the playoffs. Hassan said it best "I thought the playoffs were supposed to be physical, this isn't physical at all" he then said guys drive the lane and throw their heads back and the refs call it every time. He called it a flop fest. Multiple players were passive aggressive in their comments about officiating as well. I'm just glad they're finally saying something about it because this is the 4th straight game.

Lin has gotten the same amount of foul calls this series as Harden and LeBron have. Meanwhile Wade has to literally be tackled to get to the line. He's shot 14 free throws this series which for someone who attacks like him is very low. Somethings not right with this picture.

WaDe03
04-25-2016, 11:32 PM
I'm just fed up with it honestly I tune in to watch the players play and hope to see a great game but the refs have taken over this series. As Stebo said it didn't matter the first 2 games because we were lights out, then we go on the road and struggle but could've pulled out at least 1 (tonight) if we had fair calls. I think the Heat will win the series and I think they will do it in 6 but it's frustrating when we should be letting some of our older guys get some rest.

Redrum187
04-26-2016, 01:00 AM
I'm just fed up with it honestly I tune in to watch the players play and hope to see a great game but the refs have taken over this series. As Stebo said it didn't matter the first 2 games because we were lights out, then we go on the road and struggle but could've pulled out at least 1 (tonight) if we had fair calls. I think the Heat will win the series and I think they will do it in 6 but it's frustrating when we should be letting some of our older guys get some rest.

I feel you. It sort of makes you think of the 2006 NBA Finals doesn't it? :speechless:

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 01:14 AM
I feel you. It sort of makes you think of the 2006 NBA Finals doesn't it? :speechless:

It makes me think of every game I watch Harden play.

BallDontLie
04-26-2016, 08:34 AM
lol the crying about the refs is tooooo funny. Did the refs let the Hornets go on a 36-8 run after they went down double digits? Miami had their chances and they couldnt get it done. Also Whiteside is a terrible defender when hes not blocking shots, how did he finish 3rd in DPOY? Hornets are taking this series.

AllBall
04-26-2016, 08:39 AM
Man, I'm still laughing at the one guy (Heat fan who I can't remember the name of) who said that Heat can beat the Cavs because they beat them in the regular season.

Oh how convenient, you can't remember who posted that? Why don't you go find the post that doesn't exist because you're making stuff up. :rolleyes:

You're the one who has brought up the Cavs in this thread. I'm content with the Heat making it to the second round, I don't have an expectation of ECF when they have 2 rookies in the core of our rotation, as great as they have been. Indiana has a better chance at this point of getting to the ECF and being more of a challenge.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 10:14 AM
lol the crying about the refs is tooooo funny. Did the refs let the Hornets go on a 36-8 run after they went down double digits? Miami had their chances and they couldnt get it done. Also Whiteside is a terrible defender when hes not blocking shots, how did he finish 3rd in DPOY? Hornets are taking this series.

I've seen multiple pictures of Dragic getting hacked going to the rim, Kemba holding Dragics jersey right in front of the refs face, videos of Deng getting tackled twice with no call multiple Wade drives he was fouls on etc. just this morning and I've only been awake for about 2 hours. I couldn't care less about what you have to say. If you watched any of the games you would see because it's clear as day and if you haven't noticed you probably need to stop watching all together because you're clueless as to what's going on out there.

BallDontLie
04-26-2016, 10:35 AM
let me guess the heat didnt get away with any calls? i did watch the game, youre just a whiny homer who cant handle being outplayed again.

Vee-Rex
04-26-2016, 12:01 PM
Man I really wouldn't be complaining about it if it wasn't so lopsided. A fair called game would've been the difference maker tonight. I usually try not to blame refs and usually put the blame on Wade but since the Pacers/Warriors games after the all star break I feel like we've had the whistle against us on most night and figured it would change in the playoffs. Hassan said it best "I thought the playoffs were supposed to be physical, this isn't physical at all" he then said guys drive the lane and throw their heads back and the refs call it every time. He called it a flop fest. Multiple players were passive aggressive in their comments about officiating as well. I'm just glad they're finally saying something about it because this is the 4th straight game.

Lin has gotten the same amount of foul calls this series as Harden and LeBron have. Meanwhile Wade has to literally be tackled to get to the line. He's shot 14 free throws this series which for someone who attacks like him is very low. Somethings not right with this picture.

LeBron has shot 15 free throws the entire first round. You're making it seem like he is living at the line when Wade has shot 1 MORE free throw than Bron in the same amount of games (Wade has shot 16 free throws, not 14). LBJ has not been getting nearly the amount of foul calls this year as he should, but 'thems the breaks'.

Lumping him in with Harden (who shot 15 free throws in game 2 alone and has a total of 36 in 4 games) is just silly.

With all that said, just looking at the numbers, you do seem to have a point about Lin. His FtR during the season is .403, whereas so far in the playoffs it's .701. That's an incredible jump, and an incredible amount of free throws to be taking per shot attempt.

I'll agree that it's off and Lin is likely the beneficiary of some terrible calls. But come on, man. It's easy enough to just check stats. It lets me know you're posting mostly out of emotion.

Dade County
04-26-2016, 12:04 PM
Spo, Wade or somebody needs to say something about the refs and take a fine **** it. It needs to be said.

It's going to be hard for some fans to actually put into action what I am about to say.

Spo & Wade knows whats going on, Deng & JJ too... But the NBA is a business. The NBA spent the entire season when it comes to the East, giving off the impression that the East is balanced (besides the Cav's of course).


Everyone can see how the refs are being onside, but we can also see that are vets are not playing up to their standards, because they know the deal & they can't fight it. In the end HEAT players feel that they are moving onto the next round, and this is just apart of the business (N.O fans have something to look forward to next season... fans across the league believe that the East is tough when it comes to the middle of the pac teams...etc)

So try to enjoy the show, and be ready to have to deal with this again in the 2nd rd.

Bless

BallDontLie
04-26-2016, 12:44 PM
hahahaha i feel bad for the cool heat fans. The refs cost them the game and the series and league are rigged. unreal.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 02:23 PM
LeBron has shot 15 free throws the entire first round. You're making it seem like he is living at the line when Wade has shot 1 MORE free throw than Bron in the same amount of games (Wade has shot 16 free throws, not 14). LBJ has not been getting nearly the amount of foul calls this year as he should, but 'thems the breaks'.

Lumping him in with Harden (who shot 15 free throws in game 2 alone and has a total of 36 in 4 games) is just silly.

With all that said, just looking at the numbers, you do seem to have a point about Lin. His FtR during the season is .403, whereas so far in the playoffs it's .701. That's an incredible jump, and an incredible amount of free throws to be taking per shot attempt.

I'll agree that it's off and Lin is likely the beneficiary of some terrible calls. But come on, man. It's easy enough to just check stats. It lets me know you're posting mostly out of emotion.

I'm not saying he's getting as much foul calls as LeBron and Harden as a figure of speech. Jeremy Lin, Harden, and LeBron have all drawn 24 fouls in the first round so far. I'm not saying that as a negative towards LeBron I'm saying it as how the **** is Lin getting the same amount of calls as the best player in the world in LeBron and a guy that looks to only to get fouled in Harden? Not to mention he's a bench player and doesn't play as much as either of those guys.

The Hornets shot 20 free throws a game in the regular season, their shooting about 30.5 in the playoffs. The Heat I believe have been called for 94 fouls, the Hornets 77. Of those 77 a lot were called at the ends of games 1 and 2 when the game was already over, there was a much bigger difference in those games than the end results show.

The Heat fouled 18 times a game in the regular season, they're fouling 24 a game in the playoffs. What happened to the playoffs being physical? When two of Dragic Wade and Whiteside are always in foul trouble the team is going to be in trouble and that's what we've been playing with all series. Win or lose this series us become a straight **** show because the refs have taken over. I'm just glad some players have started to call it out whether it's Whiteside pointing out all the flopping or guys saying they would comment but don't want to get fined.

Anyone who thinks I'm making **** up or making bad excuses go to @Tshields44 Twitter account, he has Bosh as his avi I believe. He's posted multiple plays.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 02:27 PM
hahahaha i feel bad for the cool heat fans. The refs cost them the game and the series and league are rigged. unreal.

The series isn't over and they definitely cost us last nights game. League isn't rigged. Go to @Tshields44 Twitter account and then come back and see me.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 02:32 PM
Wade and dragic have 57 drives so far for 7 fouls in the series.

Lin has 46 drives go 14 fouls.

This dude plays like 10 less mpg than LeBron and Harden but has drawn the same amount of fouls.

The Heat were top 5 in not fouling during the regular season, now they lead the league in the playoffs.

I'm just in here speaking facts!

FlashBolt
04-26-2016, 02:40 PM
I never saw these Heat fans claim anything was rigged when they were just destroying the league.. curious as to where this new phenomenon is coming from. Also funny how Vee-Rex debunked the argument that LeBron gets all the calls. They must not be watching the same thing or are just heavily influenced by rhetoric. LeBron ranks 32nd in FTA in the postseason right now. Harden attempts more than twice the FTA LeBron does... putting them in the same category at this point makes zero sense. If you're advocating about not receiving enough calls, fine, but just make sure you know what you're talking about beforehand.

FlashBolt
04-26-2016, 02:41 PM
Wade and dragic have 57 drives so far for 7 fouls in the series.

Lin has 46 drives go 14 fouls.

This dude plays like 10 less mpg than LeBron and Harden but has drawn the same amount of fouls.

The Heat were top 5 in not fouling during the regular season, now they lead the league in the playoffs.

I'm just in here speaking facts!

Someone should remind you that the playoffs =/= regular season.

BallDontLie
04-26-2016, 03:40 PM
Wade and dragic have 57 drives so far for 7 fouls in the series.

Lin has 46 drives go 14 fouls.

This dude plays like 10 less mpg than LeBron and Harden but has drawn the same amount of fouls.

The Heat were top 5 in not fouling during the regular season, now they lead the league in the playoffs.

I'm just in here speaking facts!

you do realize no one agrees with you, right?

also are you trying to say Lin hasnt actually been fouled as many times as hes driven to the net, hes getting ghost calls?

FlashBolt
04-26-2016, 03:41 PM
you do realize no one agrees with you, right?

also are you trying to say Lin hasnt actually been fouled as many times as hes driven to the net, hes getting ghost calls?

Only some Heat fans agree... It's ridiculous man.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 03:53 PM
Can't quote you for some reason FlashBolt, show me where I said LeBron gets all the calls. FTA isn't what I'm singling out. LeBron and Harden have both drawn 24 fouls this postseason. Lin has drawn 24 fouls in 10 less minutes per game. Does nothing seem wrong about that to you? I'm here here stating different facts and statistics and no one is paying attention to them for some reason. It's plain as ****ing day they're getting all the calls. As I said go view that Twitter page I mentioned.

All I'm asking for is fair officiating so the game is in the hands of the players and the team who outperforms the other can win and move on, not the team that is getting most of the calls.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 03:58 PM
you do realize no one agrees with you, right?

also are you trying to say Lin hasnt actually been fouled as many times as hes driven to the net, hes getting ghost calls?

He's getting ghost calls or soft *** calls. As Stebo said were playing under different sets of rules. Go to the Twitter account I mentioned and see yourself.

Idgaf if no one agrees lol I'm stating facts while others are just coming in here and saying nah man it's been fair I watched 5 minutes of that game last night. I'm supporting my argument that the refs have been one sided with numbers like you numbers guys like but for some reason I guess you guys are just reading over them. If you've actually watched I have no idea how you can say officiating hasn't been one sided as ****. Another team getting screwed by the refs, the Raptors.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 04:00 PM
Someone should remind you that the playoffs =/= regular season.

Exactly, what happened to "playoff fouls" or "letting them play" in the playoffs. In this series it has been softer than the regular season for one team while much tougher for the other. All I'm asking for is fair officiating. If you don't see this you have to be blind.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 04:00 PM
Don't come back at me with some half *** argument until you check that Twitter page out.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 04:35 PM
If somebody wants to tell me how to post tweets on here I'll put them on here myself.

FlashBolt
04-26-2016, 04:43 PM
Exactly, what happened to "playoff fouls" or "letting them play" in the playoffs. In this series it has been softer than the regular season for one team while much tougher for the other. All I'm asking for is fair officiating. If you don't see this you have to be blind.

My point is that strategies used in the playoffs are much different than the regular season. The Heat are underestimating this team and especially, Lin. Lin's attacking of the basket is causing problems for the Heat so it's most definitely something they didn't prepare as much for. It's too late to be complaining about calls for the other team and vice-versa. Heat still had a chance to win the game and they couldn't execute while the Hornets did. Don't blame the refs on this one... blame Spo for his terrible preparations.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 04:50 PM
They definitely haven't underestimated them. They call them the Warriors in the east based on their play style. That's high praise. You can't execute whenever you have every single call going against you. You've been on here awhile do you know how to post tweets? You can see the exact plays I'm talking about and the times they were at during the game.

Again call after call going against you will deflate a team. We excuted at the end we were making 3s getting to the rim and all that but they were getting so many questionable calls while we got absolutely nothing.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 04:52 PM
Also it's very deflating when 2 of your best players at the least are in foul trouble and either on the bench or forced to not play aggressive.

beasted86
04-26-2016, 06:09 PM
It's going to be hard for some fans to actually put into action what I am about to say.

Spo & Wade knows whats going on, Deng & JJ too... But the NBA is a business. The NBA spent the entire season when it comes to the East, giving off the impression that the East is balanced (besides the Cav's of course).


Everyone can see how the refs are being onside, but we can also see that are vets are not playing up to their standards, because they know the deal & they can't fight it. In the end HEAT players feel that they are moving onto the next round, and this is just apart of the business (N.O fans have something to look forward to next season... fans across the league believe that the East is tough when it comes to the middle of the pac teams...etc)

So try to enjoy the show, and be ready to have to deal with this again in the 2nd rd.

Bless

NBA = WWE = Entertainment

Dade County
04-26-2016, 06:39 PM
I never saw these Heat fans claim anything was rigged when they were just destroying the league.. curious as to where this new phenomenon is coming from. Also funny how Vee-Rex debunked the argument that LeBron gets all the calls. They must not be watching the same thing or are just heavily influenced by rhetoric. LeBron ranks 32nd in FTA in the postseason right now. Harden attempts more than twice the FTA LeBron does... putting them in the same category at this point makes zero sense. If you're advocating about not receiving enough calls, fine, but just make sure you know what you're talking about beforehand.

I always have.

Next

beasted86
04-26-2016, 06:51 PM
They definitely haven't underestimated them. They call them the Warriors in the east based on their play style. That's high praise. You can't execute whenever you have every single call going against you. You've been on here awhile do you know how to post tweets? You can see the exact plays I'm talking about and the times they were at during the game.

Again call after call going against you will deflate a team. We excuted at the end we were making 3s getting to the rim and all that but they were getting so many questionable calls while we got absolutely nothing.
Use the codes: [ tweet ] ID HERE [ /tweet ] without the spaces, and copy the URL from the app or from your address bar to get the ID.

For example:

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/724794719725740032

The tweet ID would be: 724794719725740032

Result:
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beasted86
04-26-2016, 06:55 PM
I always have.

Next

^This.

I can vouch for him being a consistent conspiracy theorist throughout his time here.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 08:09 PM
Use the codes: [ tweet ] ID HERE [ /tweet ] without the spaces, and copy the URL from the app or from your address bar to get the ID.

For example:

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/724794719725740032

The tweet ID would be: 724794719725740032

Result:
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Appreciate that, I will post them here in a little bit when I get the chance.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 08:16 PM
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Just testing this post out, will post multiple here soon.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 08:41 PM
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This isn't including Marvin Williams slide tackle on Deng when he was going for a loose ball and it was a no call.

End of discussion. If you're still trying to argue this hasn't been one sided officiating idk what to tell you.

WaDe03
04-26-2016, 10:34 PM
*crickets*

FlashBolt
04-26-2016, 11:24 PM
What you're doing is nitpicking every single little thing. Calls are going to be missed more than not. Refs aren't hawks who have replays on hand. Besides, many of those videos aren't even showing an angle that I can say is for sure a foul. Either way, I don't think fouls is the reason you guys aren't playing well. Miami can't defend the paint at all while Hornets are one of the best to do it this season. If you think this is bad, just wait till you have to play the Raptors and DeRozan+Lowry get all the calls.

Dade County
04-26-2016, 11:30 PM
Big Ups WaDe03!

I just don't understand how you can see all of this, but haven't notice other things about this league. Go back and watch how Lbj gave Dallas a title in 2011.

Dade County
04-26-2016, 11:33 PM
^This.

I can vouch for him being a consistent conspiracy theorist throughout his time here.


:laugh2:

That word conspiracy theorist, doesn't command respect. I rather be called, a person that see's through organize deception.

FlashBolt
04-26-2016, 11:55 PM
Big Ups WaDe03!

I just don't understand how you can see all of this, but haven't notice other things about this league. Go back and watch how Lbj gave Dallas a title in 2011.

And won you guys the titles in 2012/2013 and gave you the best seasons in Miami Heat history.. and left your team and you guys couldn't even make the playoffs.. and now you're struggling but try and pin it down on the refs. Fourth quarter, 75-76, Charlotte up by 1. I don't believe any foul calls were called unless they were on purpose (fouling to shoot FT's). Charlotte wins the game. Blame the foul calls all you want but it didn't cost you guys the game. Besides, if you guys were clamoring about how "great' this Heat team was, then you shouldn't have to worry about a few missed foul calls. This thread is just filled with nonsense and there aren't any Charlotte fans here so it's pretty much the majority of Heat fans ranting about something because their team just isn't playing well.

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 12:12 AM
What you're doing is nitpicking every single little thing. Calls are going to be missed more than not. Refs aren't hawks who have replays on hand. Besides, many of those videos aren't even showing an angle that I can say is for sure a foul. Either way, I don't think fouls is the reason you guys aren't playing well. Miami can't defend the paint at all while Hornets are one of the best to do it this season. If you think this is bad, just wait till you have to play the Raptors and DeRozan+Lowry get all the calls.

Sometimes you just have to admit you're wrong and move on man. I gave you like 10+ plays of both ******** calls for them or no calls for us. It's that simple. You obviously don't know the effects ridiculous fouls and no calls can have on the game. It's deflating as hell especially when it's so repetitive and especially when you're making a come back so you get hit with a bunch of bs fouls. This team is very good when we're allowed to play I dot think there's any arguing that and I've seen you say it multiple times as well.

FlashBolt
04-27-2016, 12:26 AM
Sometimes you just have to admit you're wrong and move on man. I gave you like 10+ plays of both ******** calls for them or no calls for us. It's that simple. You obviously don't know the effects ridiculous fouls and no calls can have on the game. It's deflating as hell especially when it's so repetitive and especially when you're making a come back so you get hit with a bunch of bs fouls. This team is very good when we're allowed to play I dot think there's any arguing that and I've seen you say it multiple times as well.

K, I'll make you a deal. I will go through the four games viewing all of Charlotte's possessions. If I find ten fouls, you promise to stop commenting until the season is over. Deal?

*Ten fouls that Hornets didn't get but should have been called against the Heat.

Dade County
04-27-2016, 12:37 AM
And won you guys the titles in 2012/2013 and gave you the best seasons in Miami Heat history..

He was apart of it for sure... Why bring that up?

It's not like he would of won anything if he stayed with the Cav's. They wouldn't have been able to get those cheat picks.



and left your team and you guys couldn't even make the playoffs..

Well, they had no real incentive to actually fight for a playoff spot. The team wasn't good enough, so why not get a pick.

Also, Lbj tied Pat hands until the very end on making any plays for another elite player. But you should know all of that already.

Are you trolling?



and now you're struggling but try and pin it down on the refs. Fourth quarter, 75-76, Charlotte up by 1. I don't believe any foul calls were called unless they were on purpose (fouling to shoot FT's).

Wrong poster, I am not blaming anything on the Refs this series; they work for the league and do what they have to do.

Re-read my post. I target players. lol




Charlotte wins the game. Blame the foul calls all you want but it didn't cost you guys the game. Besides, if you guys were clamoring about how "great' this Heat team was, then you shouldn't have to worry about a few missed foul calls.

From everything I have seen, throughout the year and these playoffs, Miami is a level above the Hornets.

HEAT will move onto the 2nd rd, when everything is said and done.



This thread is just filled with nonsense and there aren't any Charlotte fans here so it's pretty much the majority of Heat fans ranting about something because their team just isn't playing well.

Yeah it's sad, Hornets don't really have a fan base on here.

But you can not throw away what WaDe03 posted, it shows the fans that are blind to the bad calls of a game, what Miami is going through; but its whatever.

beasted86
04-27-2016, 12:40 AM
And won you guys the titles in 2012/2013 and gave you the best seasons in Miami Heat history.. and left your team and you guys couldn't even make the playoffs.. and now you're struggling but try and pin it down on the refs. Fourth quarter, 75-76, Charlotte up by 1. I don't believe any foul calls were called unless they were on purpose (fouling to shoot FT's). Charlotte wins the game. Blame the foul calls all you want but it didn't cost you guys the game. Besides, if you guys were clamoring about how "great' this Heat team was, then you shouldn't have to worry about a few missed foul calls. This thread is just filled with nonsense and there aren't any Charlotte fans here so it's pretty much the majority of Heat fans ranting about something because their team just isn't playing well.

This HEAT team is great? If we're great without our leading scorer then damn... I expect to win 60+ games next year if everyone is healthy.

Miami has played tough and was able to grab the 3 seed, but I haven't heard anyone call Miami great, not even the homers.

I also think you're exaggerating this "majority of HEAT fans" BS

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 01:05 AM
K, I'll make you a deal. I will go through the four games viewing all of Charlotte's possessions. If I find ten fouls, you promise to stop commenting until the season is over. Deal?

*Ten fouls that Hornets didn't get but should have been called against the Heat.

In 4 games I'm sure you could. What you're not understanding is all the videos and pics I posted were from game 4 only. How do you not see we're getting ****ed by the refs? I repeat, all of this was one game.

FlashBolt
04-27-2016, 01:07 AM
He was apart of it for sure... Why bring that up?

It's not like he would of won anything if he stayed with the Cav's. They wouldn't have been able to get those cheat picks.



Well, they had no real incentive to actually fight for a playoff spot. The team wasn't good enough, so why not get a pick.

Also, Lbj tied Pat hands until the very end on making any plays for another elite player. But you should know all of that already.

Are you trolling?



Wrong poster, I am not blaming anything on the Refs this series; they work for the league and do what they have to do.

Re-read my post. I target players. lol




From everything I have seen, throughout the year and these playoffs, Miami is a level above the Hornets.

HEAT will move onto the 2nd rd, when everything is said and done.



Yeah it's sad, Hornets don't really have a fan base on here.

But you can not throw away what WaDe03 posted, it shows the fans that are blind to the bad calls of a game, what Miami is going through; but its whatever.

So you get the same player and you complain about one missed opportunity instead of acknowledging that he even gave that team the position to be in such a situation to begin with? I don't know if Cavs would have made the Finals but I do know he is largely responsible for why Miami Heat were the most talked about team in recent memory (outside the Warriors). I'm an OKC (originally Seattle) fan. We never win and haven't won a thing. But if KD manages to win two rings for us and then decides to jet off to his hometown, I would never trash him. Look at teams like the Sixers/Minnesota/Suns.. they are just in terrible situations. I'm just glad we have an opportunity to win a championship every season. But here you are, trying to blame LeBron for what he didn't do.


This HEAT team is great? If we're great without our leading scorer then damn... I expect to win 60+ games next year if everyone is healthy.

Miami has played tough and was able to grab the 3 seed, but I haven't heard anyone call Miami great, not even the homers.

I also think you're exaggerating this "majority of HEAT fans" BS

There was one of you who said Miami could beat Cavs because they beat them in the regular season. It was a really old thread so I don't remember the exact one but it's there. I never said they were great. I simply told everyone what was going to happen. They have less than a .200 record against current playoff teams. That's never a good sign. Btw, 3rd seed is just as good as 6th seed. So...

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 01:09 AM
And won you guys the titles in 2012/2013 and gave you the best seasons in Miami Heat history.. and left your team and you guys couldn't even make the playoffs.. and now you're struggling but try and pin it down on the refs. Fourth quarter, 75-76, Charlotte up by 1. I don't believe any foul calls were called unless they were on purpose (fouling to shoot FT's). Charlotte wins the game. Blame the foul calls all you want but it didn't cost you guys the game. Besides, if you guys were clamoring about how "great' this Heat team was, then you shouldn't have to worry about a few missed foul calls. This thread is just filled with nonsense and there aren't any Charlotte fans here so it's pretty much the majority of Heat fans ranting about something because their team just isn't playing well.

Also this is proof you didn't watch. There were multiple terrible calls or no calls in the 4th quarter. You are just pulling stuff out of your *** looking for an argument. A lot of the videos posted were from the 4th quarter. Like I said sometimes you just have to admit you're wrong and move on.

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 01:10 AM
So you get the same player and you complain about one missed opportunity instead of acknowledging that he even gave that team the position to be in such a situation to begin with? I don't know if Cavs would have made the Finals but I do know he is largely responsible for why Miami Heat were the most talked about team in recent memory (outside the Warriors).



There was one of you who said Miami could beat Cavs because they beat them in the regular season. It was a really old thread so I don't remember the exact one but it's there. I never said they were great. I simply told everyone what was going to happen. They have less than a .200 record against current playoff teams. That's never a good sign. Btw, 3rd seed is just as good as 6th seed. So...

Didn't you just recently say the Heat could make things really interesting for the Cavs? Don't contradict yourself.

FlashBolt
04-27-2016, 01:12 AM
Also this is proof you didn't watch. There were multiple terrible calls or no calls in the 4th quarter. You are just pulling stuff out of your *** looking for an argument. A lot of the videos posted were from the 4th quarter. Like I said sometimes you just have to admit you're wrong and move on.

Lol, I'm done with you. Not even your fellow Heat fan(s) agree with you and just think you're being biased. I never said the fourth quarter to the entirety. At one point, the Heat were down 1. There were no BS calls the remainder of the game since then. Charlotte just made the shots cause Walker was going bananas. Give it up, you're just reaching for excuses as to why your team hasn't been up to your expectations and now, may face a first round exit. I'm done with you. I'm going to be rooting for the Heat just for that ECF story matchup but I also don't mind Charlotte beating the Heat so I don't have to read your crappy whining about common foul calls being missed.

FlashBolt
04-27-2016, 01:13 AM
Didn't you just recently say the Heat could make things really interesting for the Cavs? Don't contradict yourself.

Really interesting doesn't mean they can beat them.. it means they can match up well with them. And that was when Bosh was healthy.

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 01:26 AM
Really interesting doesn't mean they can beat them.. it means they can match up well with them. And that was when Bosh was healthy.

This was 100% in the last month. Month may even be too long probably last week or 2.

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 01:33 AM
Lol, I'm done with you. Not even your fellow Heat fan(s) agree with you and just think you're being biased. I never said the fourth quarter to the entirety. At one point, the Heat were down 1. There were no BS calls the remainder of the game since then. Charlotte just made the shots cause Walker was going bananas. Give it up, you're just reaching for excuses as to why your team hasn't been up to your expectations and now, may face a first round exit. I'm done with you. I'm going to be rooting for the Heat just for that ECF story matchup but I also don't mind Charlotte beating the Heat so I don't have to read your crappy whining about common foul calls being missed.

Of the 3 Heat fans In here 2 have openly agreed with me about the refs. Those were Dade County and Stebo. I know Beasted does too deep down but doesn't want to complain about the refs so i do it for all of HeatNation.

I would be done too if I were I've posted videos, pictures, and stats while you've just pull **** out of your *** the whole time trying to come up with some sort of argument. After the point you mentioned, Wade foul on Kembas drive (definitely not a foul check the video I posted), Deng getting tackled by Lin when he had the offensive rebound (check the video/picture definitely a foul, Deng getting slide tackled by Marvin with no call (don't have a video of this one), all 3 of these happened after the point in time you said where it was a one point game. So again, every picture and video I posted was in the matter of one game how that doesn't seem ridiculous to you is beyond me. Also you don't seem to understand the affect fouls have on a game and have personally never been in one of these in game situations in your life so your understanding take another hit in that regard. Do not come at me with another half assed argument. I posted proof, you're posting nonsense.

BallDontLie
04-27-2016, 08:19 AM
He's getting ghost calls or soft *** calls. As Stebo said were playing under different sets of rules. Go to the Twitter account I mentioned and see yourself.

Idgaf if no one agrees lol I'm stating facts while others are just coming in here and saying nah man it's been fair I watched 5 minutes of that game last night. I'm supporting my argument that the refs have been one sided with numbers like you numbers guys like but for some reason I guess you guys are just reading over them. If you've actually watched I have no idea how you can say officiating hasn't been one sided as ****. Another team getting screwed by the refs, the Raptors.

lol first i didnt watch the game, now i watched 5 min? heat homers are the worst, talk about sore losers. im not rading some dudes twitter page that fits your agenda that doesnt mean jackshit. no one is out to get the heat, the league doesnt care about them anymore. Maybe tell Dragic to learn how to play defense or you know not allow them to go on a 30 point run lol

BallDontLie
04-27-2016, 08:21 AM
*crickets*

forget it.

BallDontLie
04-27-2016, 08:25 AM
Lol, I'm done with you. Not even your fellow Heat fan(s) agree with you and just think you're being biased. I never said the fourth quarter to the entirety. At one point, the Heat were down 1. There were no BS calls the remainder of the game since then. Charlotte just made the shots cause Walker was going bananas. Give it up, you're just reaching for excuses as to why your team hasn't been up to your expectations and now, may face a first round exit. I'm done with you. I'm going to be rooting for the Heat just for that ECF story matchup but I also don't mind Charlotte beating the Heat so I don't have to read your crappy whining about common foul calls being missed.

i regret adding more posts in here. im going to have to block these guys its mindblowing having to read the homerism and BS conspiracy theories. ill just come back in after the Hornets hopefully take this series.

ewing
04-27-2016, 08:47 AM
dear God just stop :crying:. even if you were right its just undignified

ewing
04-27-2016, 08:48 AM
anyway, i will be watching tonight but not live. If i were to guess Jeremy Lin averages about 24 and 5 in games I watch for his career. I do not know how tape delay effect this.

SteBO
04-27-2016, 09:15 AM
For our own sanity can't we just say that officiating played a factor but wasn't THE reason? The refs wouldn't matter if Dragic and Wade played like they gave a damn.....can't get outplayed by Walker and Lin and expect to win playoff games.

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 09:33 AM
lol first i didnt watch the game, now i watched 5 min? heat homers are the worst, talk about sore losers. im not rading some dudes twitter page that fits your agenda that doesnt mean jackshit. no one is out to get the heat, the league doesnt care about them anymore. Maybe tell Dragic to learn how to play defense or you know not allow them to go on a 30 point run lol

Did I say you said you only watched 5 minutes. I was referring to FlashBolt who said he was watching at the very end.

Again, I've posted multiple sources of us getting ****ed by the refs and that was all in one game. Say what you want but they were allowed to do whatever they wanted without being called for it. If you don't understand that idk what to tell you. I'm just asking for a fair series.

WaDe03
04-27-2016, 09:37 AM
For our own sanity can't we just say that officiating played a factor but wasn't THE reason? The refs wouldn't matter if Dragic and Wade played like they gave a damn.....can't get outplayed by Walker and Lin and expect to win playoff games.

The fact that the refs are even a factor is a problem in itself though. We shouldn't have to worry about beating the Hornets and the refs. Also they can't be as aggressive if they're always in foul trouble. It's always 2 of Wade, Whiteside, and Dragic who are in foul trouble. Kills aggressiveness because you can't attack the basket like you normally would with guys flopping left and right for a foul. You watched the game. There were multiple times we made runs then would be hit with BS calls like the Wade on Kemba Walker shooting foul. It's deflating as hell.

ewing
04-27-2016, 09:40 AM
Did I say you said you only watched 5 minutes. I was referring to FlashBolt who said he was watching at the very end.

Again, I've posted multiple sources of us getting ****ed by the refs and that was all in one game. Say what you want but they were allowed to do whatever they wanted without being called for it. If you don't understand that idk what to tell you. I'm just asking for a fair series.


well if you can satisfy your confirmation bias through internet sources your opinion must be solid. you should ask these other posters for an apology

SteBO
04-27-2016, 10:28 AM
i regret adding more posts in here. im going to have to block these guys its mindblowing having to read the homerism and BS conspiracy theories. ill just come back in after the Hornets hopefully take this series.
The bias is strooongggg here haha....you and others in this thread really shouldn't allow the opinions of others rile you up like this. It's not less unbecoming than what you're responding to.

Dade County
04-27-2016, 10:28 AM
So you get the same player and you complain about one missed opportunity instead of acknowledging that he even gave that team the position to be in such a situation to begin with? I don't know if Cavs would have made the Finals but I do know he is largely responsible for why Miami Heat were the most talked about team in recent memory (outside the Warriors). I'm an OKC (originally Seattle) fan. We never win and haven't won a thing. But if KD manages to win two rings for us and then decides to jet off to his hometown, I would never trash him. Look at teams like the Sixers/Minnesota/Suns.. they are just in terrible situations. I'm just glad we have an opportunity to win a championship every season. But here you are, trying to blame LeBron for what he didn't do.


lbj was a very big part that Miami was a contending team. Never said other wise.

I was just pouting out to WaDe03 that if he can see whats going on now, he should be able to see what Lbj did in 2011. Thats all.

You made it a big deal.


i regret adding more posts in here. im going to have to block these guys its mindblowing having to read the homerism and BS conspiracy theories. ill just come back in after the Hornets hopefully take this series.

LoL

Not happening, see you in rd 2.



dear God just stop :crying:. even if you were right its just undignified

:laugh2:


For our own sanity can't we just say that officiating played a factor but wasn't THE reason? The refs wouldn't matter if Dragic and Wade played like they gave a damn.....can't get outplayed by Walker and Lin and expect to win playoff games.

You are right, thats why I blame players for the most part. But the refs are making sure that Miami plays ball, if you know what I mean.

SteBO
04-27-2016, 10:31 AM
The fact that the refs are even a factor is a problem in itself though. We shouldn't have to worry about beating the Hornets and the refs. Also they can't be as aggressive if they're always in foul trouble. It's always 2 of Wade, Whiteside, and Dragic who are in foul trouble. Kills aggressiveness because you can't attack the basket like you normally would with guys flopping left and right for a foul. You watched the game. There were multiple times we made runs then would be hit with BS calls like the Wade on Kemba Walker shooting foul. It's deflating as hell.
Well, let's not forget. These are things that's been happening since Game 1, and yet we still have the advantage in a 2-2 tie. We have two wins because our vets and Hassan were more or less pulling their weight. These last two games, we've jacked up a lot of 3s. Defense isn't the problem. Offense has been.

BallDontLie
04-27-2016, 10:33 AM
The bias is strooongggg here haha....you and others in this thread really shouldn't allow the opinions of others rile you up like this. It's not less unbecoming than what you're responding to.

im not riled up i just cant believe that someone could feel so strongly that refs cost them a game that they choked away. I blocked him so i dont have to read that crap anymore. I really just personally would like to see the Hornets win the series even before it started, its different ya know.

goingfor28
04-27-2016, 10:52 AM
Did I say you said you only watched 5 minutes. I was referring to FlashBolt who said he was watching at the very end.

Again, I've posted multiple sources of us getting ****ed by the refs and that was all in one game. Say what you want but they were allowed to do whatever they wanted without being called for it. If you don't understand that idk what to tell you. I'm just asking for a fair series.
Your team had LeBron for 4 years, you got plennnnnty of bs calls that went your teams way

beasted86
04-27-2016, 11:55 AM
There was one of you who said Miami could beat Cavs because they beat them in the regular season. It was a really old thread so I don't remember the exact one but it's there. I never said they were great. I simply told everyone what was going to happen. They have less than a .200 record against current playoff teams. That's never a good sign. Btw, 3rd seed is just as good as 6th seed. So...

You're a total joke of a poster.

It goes from all of us thinking the HEAT are great to one poster you may or may not remember from some old thread. And then attempting to discredit a team that won the 3rd seed without their best player. SMH.

Miami is 14-16 on the season vs the East top 8, and 20-26 overall against playoff teams. I would prefer it if you GTFOH with your fairy tale stats.

Miami is playing with house money. Anything they do positive in these playoffs is just to get the young guys experience or setup free agency pitches as in "look what we did without Bosh" sales efforts.

FlashBolt
04-27-2016, 01:30 PM
You're a total joke of a poster.

It goes from all of us thinking the HEAT are great to one poster you may or may not remember from some old thread. And then attempting to discredit a team that won the 3rd seed without their best player. SMH.

Miami is 14-16 on the season vs the East top 8, and 20-26 overall against playoff teams. I would prefer it if you GTFOH with your fairy tale stats.

Miami is playing with house money. Anything they do positive in these playoffs is just to get the young guys experience or setup free agency pitches as in "look what we did without Bosh" sales efforts.

Actually, the joke is you. I said I remember a Heat fan saying the Heat can beat the Cavs, thus, implying they were great. The Cavs are a great team so you obviously have to be great to beat them. Maybe you should stop quoting me if you have no idea what is being spoken.

FlashBolt
04-27-2016, 01:32 PM
Guys, the refs are out to get the Heat because they want the Hornets to face the Cavs.. it's just been revealed. They want the storied matchup between Lin vs LeBron.