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kdspurman
04-14-2016, 07:17 PM
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Game 1: Detroit Pistons at Cleveland Cavaliers, Sunday, April 17 at 3 p.m. on ABC
Game 2: Detroit Pistons at Cleveland Cavaliers, Wednesday, April 20 at 8 p.m. on TNT
Game 3; Cleveland Cavaliers at Detroit Pistons, Friday April 22 at 7 p.m. on ESPN
Game 4: Cleveland Cavaliers at Detroit Pistons, Sunday, April 24 at 8:30 p.m. on TNT
Game 5*: Detroit Pistons at Cleveland Cavaliers, Tuesday, April 26, time and TV TBD
Game 6*: Cleveland Cavaliers at Detroit Pistons, Thursday, April 28, time and TV TBD
Game 7*: Cleveland Cavaliers at Detroit Pistons, Saturday, April 30, time and TV TBD

*If Necessary


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Scoots
04-14-2016, 09:13 PM
Go Pistons!

I don't think the Pistons can do it unless the Cavs blow up and the Pistons play their absolute best for every game.

Chronz
04-14-2016, 09:29 PM
You can't sleep on these eastern teams anymore if you're Cleveland. Detroit has the players to abuse the Cavs defensive weaknesses , anyone know if Reggie is fully healthy?

JasonJohnHorn
04-14-2016, 09:36 PM
The Cavs have much better 3-pt shooters; and they have the three best offensive players in the series, I think.

SVG is a solid playoff coach, and should be able to make adjustments to frustrate the Cavs, but I don't think this series will go past 6 games, and I'm guessing it will likely go 5.

But Chronz is right....in the east, I think any team has a legit shot to beat any team, and you can't sleep on anybody.


The biggest problem for the Cavs is the coaching inexperience. It didn't stop them form going all the way to the finals last year, but two years n a row.... it will be rough.

SVG and Vogel are likely the best playoff coaches in the East right now.

ManningToTyree
04-15-2016, 01:33 AM
Cavs sweep

naps
04-15-2016, 04:41 AM
Cavs in 6. I think LeBron wont go crazy early in the playoffs and pace himself up with time. Pistons steal 2 games.

R. Johnson#3
04-15-2016, 09:54 AM
Before the season started I predicted the Cavs as a 1st round exit and I'm sticking by it. Lebron is going to have to out coach SVG.

ewing
04-15-2016, 10:40 AM
Pistons in 7. This will be EPIC EPIC

Tony_Starks
04-15-2016, 10:49 AM
When you factor in the wear and tear of Lebron doing 5 straight Finals, along with the discord with the team this year and the Pistons surge.....a upset is very possible.

Vampirate
04-15-2016, 10:55 AM
Cavs in 5, Drummond might win a game as he's easily the best big in the series.

SteBO
04-15-2016, 08:35 PM
Cavs in a competitive 5 games.

ewing
04-15-2016, 09:41 PM
When you factor in the wear and tear of Lebron doing 5 straight Finals, along with the discord with the team this year and the Pistons surge.....a upset is very possible.

i hope so but i am doubtful especially with how explosive LeBron has looked at the end of the season. It like he more healthy then he has been in years. Anyway, hopefully he chokes. Pistons in a an epic 7 game series.

Dade County
04-15-2016, 09:52 PM
Cav's in 5.


I believe they will aim to end this quick, remember last year Love got hurt in the 1st rd.

DanG
04-16-2016, 10:27 AM
Sweeep. Just too much experience on the Cavs.

Scoots
04-16-2016, 01:51 PM
The biggest problem for the Cavs is the coaching inexperience

I think LeBron is fairly experienced.

Chronz
04-16-2016, 02:00 PM
I think LeBron is fairly experienced.
Lue practically coached the team last year. Lest we forget him saving Blatt

Scoots
04-16-2016, 04:10 PM
LeBron practically coached the team this year. Lest we forget him saving Lue

Fixed it.

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IKnowHoops
04-16-2016, 06:03 PM
i think lebron is fairly experienced.

lol

eDush
04-16-2016, 06:08 PM
I like how the Cavs roster (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=cavs%20roster) looks when i googled it led by Lebron playing the violin :laugh2:.

I like it more then how our roster look from Google. Anyways, Cavs should win this series and move on....

Chronz
04-17-2016, 03:35 PM
Fixed it.

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Bron doesn't wear suits come playoffs and he wasn't the guy who saved the lame coach from unparalleled failure

ewing
04-17-2016, 03:47 PM
is it too soon to start blaming LeBron's teammates?

kdspurman
04-17-2016, 03:48 PM
Pistons are gonna be a tough out for the Cavs. They seem to play them well

ewing
04-17-2016, 03:51 PM
impressed by Blake's D even though Ivring has made a couple shots on him

ewing
04-17-2016, 03:54 PM
Pistons aint scurred.

ewing
04-17-2016, 03:57 PM
refs not doing the Pistons any favors

Tg11
04-17-2016, 03:59 PM
Pistons are taking it to the Cavs early I am surprised shocked even

basch152
04-17-2016, 04:04 PM
I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this.

The pistons matchup against the cavs well. The cavs are clearly the better team, but that doesn't matter if they match you well.

Tg11
04-17-2016, 04:08 PM
Yeah that's true but offensively on paper though the Cavs are a much better team the much more superior of the 2

Chronz
04-17-2016, 04:08 PM
is it too soon to start blaming LeBron's teammates?
You trying to blame Bron already?

Chronz
04-17-2016, 04:09 PM
I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this.

The pistons matchup against the cavs well. The cavs are clearly the better team, but that doesn't matter if they match you well.
SVG knows this. He's experienced it vs Bron before

Tg11
04-17-2016, 04:11 PM
Like even though they are down right now I mean the Cavs in all likelihood will still win this game

ewing
04-17-2016, 04:12 PM
You trying to blame Bron already?

Nah, he had a positive impact. was completely bailed out by the refs but a positive impact

ewing
04-17-2016, 04:16 PM
Gotta feel good if you are a Pistons guy. I don't they can keep up this shooting but the Cavs played real well, got all the calls, and you are still beating by 2 at the half on the road. Go Pistons.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2016, 04:23 PM
Cavs playing the Detroit Warriors right now. JFC they are hitting every shot, difficult or not. All their points are outside the paint. And they're a terrible jump shooting team.

If the Cavs can maintain they should be able to win this game.

ewing
04-17-2016, 04:23 PM
Like even though they are down right now I mean the Cavs in all likelihood will still win this game

Pistons cant keep up this shooting but i don't think Ivring love and Bron will all play that well either. pistons by 5.

ewing
04-17-2016, 04:27 PM
Cavs playing the Detroit Warriors right now. JFC they are hitting every shot, difficult or not. All their points are outside the paint. And they're a terrible jump shooting team.

If the Cavs can maintain they should be able to win this game.

they are not a terrible shooting team. they are not elite but they can shoot. can they shoot that well? No. nobody can.

basketballkitty
04-17-2016, 04:49 PM
Detroit might go into the Tank in the 4th, but they are holding their own on a night where both Love and Irving are having the games of their lives. So if they lose today...with those guys having games like they are...man, that will be depressing for the Cavs.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:01 PM
Piston bench is going to be the difference. hopefully they can push it to 10 before LeBron get back in

Vee-Rex
04-17-2016, 05:02 PM
Detroit might go into the Tank in the 4th, but they are holding their own on a night where both Love and Irving are having the games of their lives. So if they lose today...with those guys having games like they are...man, that will be depressing for the Cavs.

Lol both Love and Kyrie have had much much better games. Not to mention they're both better offensively than anyone on the Pistons roster.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:05 PM
Didn't sit Bron long.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:08 PM
Moz the only big off the bench for Clev and he's only played 3 mins.

TrueFan420
04-17-2016, 05:09 PM
I love how when the Warriors fouled a player at the end of the 3rd to pick up an extra possession JVG just repeats over and over again "change the rule." But when the Cavs do it to Drummond to gain an extra possession at the end of the 3rd JVG says it smart and lauds the play.

basch152
04-17-2016, 05:15 PM
Lebron is crying like a little ***** right now. Damn.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:16 PM
I love how when the Warriors fouled a player at the end of the 3rd to pick up an extra possession JVG just repeats over and over again "change the rule." But when the Cavs do it to Drummond to gain an extra possession at the end of the 3rd JVG says it smart and lauds the play.


Jeff is definitely rooting for the Pistons more then any team in the playoffs. he could both think they should change the rule and that it is a smart play.

Mell413
04-17-2016, 05:17 PM
I like Lebron but that's not a shot.

Bostonjorge
04-17-2016, 05:17 PM
Refs ruining a good game. Refs won't let Detroit win today.

basch152
04-17-2016, 05:17 PM
Holy ****, lebron needs a tech. Crying hardcore.

TrueFan420
04-17-2016, 05:19 PM
Jeff is definitely rooting for the Pistons more then any team in the playoffs. he could both think they should change the rule and that it is a smart play.

If Jeff was rooting for the Pistons he'd say change the rule again. Drummond was fouled cause he can't shoot FT to save his life and the Cavs got an extra possession.

I keep noticing it more and more and really wish they'd stop having JVG and Mark Jackson anounce Warriors games. The bias is unreal.

Jarvo
04-17-2016, 05:20 PM
Pistons getting ****ed by the refs

TrueFan420
04-17-2016, 05:23 PM
Pistons getting ****ed by the refs
Yea they are

Bostonjorge
04-17-2016, 05:23 PM
No moving screen?

Blink
04-17-2016, 05:24 PM
Irving/LeBron/Love just too much for my young Pistons.

Bostonjorge
04-17-2016, 05:28 PM
Without the refs this cavs team is not that good

basketballkitty
04-17-2016, 05:29 PM
Reggie Jackson trying to go all Russell Westbrook too much, that is why they will likely lose. Too bad he can't play like a player who is a TEAM player.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:32 PM
Reggie Jackson trying to go all Russell Westbrook too much, that is why they will likely lose. Too bad he can't play like a player who is a TEAM player.

he lost his cool. cavs did get some help from the refs though

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:33 PM
If Jeff was rooting for the Pistons he'd say change the rule again. Drummond was fouled cause he can't shoot FT to save his life and the Cavs got an extra possession.

I keep noticing it more and more and really wish they'd stop having JVG and Mark Jackson anounce Warriors games. The is unreal.

Jeff's brother is the coach and Pres for the Pistons he is definitely rooting for the Pistons.

TrueFan420
04-17-2016, 05:35 PM
Jeff's brother is the coach and Pres for the Pistons he is definitely rooting for the Pistons.
I'm sure he is. But from the comment he made compared to the comment he made about the Warriors it doesn't read that way.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:38 PM
I'm sure he is. But from the comment he made compared to the comment he made about the Warriors it doesn't read that way.

there is nothing to read.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2016, 05:47 PM
I like how Pistons fans thought the refs were fine (other sites) but the anti LeBron dudes are crying.

Ft disparity was even until the late clock-saving fouls by the Pistons.

I originally thought this would be a 5 game series, but now I think it's going 4.

ewing
04-17-2016, 05:50 PM
I like how Pistons fans thought the refs were fine (other sites) but the anti LeBron dudes are crying.

Ft disparity was even until the late clock-saving fouls by the Pistons.

I originally thought this would be a 5 game series, but now I think it's going 4.

you're team got a little help. it happens when you are the one seed n have a 4 time MVP on your team.

flea
04-17-2016, 05:55 PM
Lebron got the calls he's gotten for the last 10 years. If you think it was always fair then you thought that game was called fairly. SVG didn't think it was and he said so before the 2nd quarter, but he also said he knows how this goes. Pistons would have won if they had made the Cavs pay on the glass, but Love played well so oh well. Still got a chance in the series IMO, albeit a small one.

Chronz
04-17-2016, 06:00 PM
The refs were fine, hardly worth mentioning. Even in blowout losses the refs were worse in other games these playoffs.

Chronz
04-17-2016, 06:04 PM
Lebron got the calls he's gotten for the last 10 years. If you think it was always fair then you thought that game was called fairly. SVG didn't think it was and he said so before the 2nd quarter, but he also said he knows how this goes. Pistons would have won if they had made the Cavs pay on the glass, but Love played well so oh well. Still got a chance in the series IMO, albeit a small one.
Not surprised that an opposing coach birches about the refs, but only svg begins to whine before halftime, no wonder he's known as the master of panic by his hof bigmen. Bron barely got to the line today, they Could've easily given him a few 5050 calls but didn't. Refs actually had one of their better showings today

Scoots
04-17-2016, 06:06 PM
Cavs are in for a fight

IKnowHoops
04-17-2016, 06:10 PM
Detroit has to shoot 50% from 3 to beat the Cavs.

Bron had one of his passive games today.

Refs gave the Pistons a few phantom calls. That one on Iman Shumpert on Reggie Jackson comes to mind when he didn't even touch dude with a swipe and Reggie went easily to the hoop for and an one.

likemystylez
04-17-2016, 06:11 PM
Cavs are in for a fight

This- Pistons fans should feel very very very encouraged by this game. They got a rare A game from the cavs big 3, and this was a winnable game for the pistons.Im rooting hard for the pistons now, and Stanley Johnson is a stud

Chronz
04-17-2016, 06:13 PM
Detroit has to shoot 50% from 3 to beat the Cavs.

Bron had one of his passive games today.

Refs gave the Pistons a few phantom calls. That one on Iman Shumpert on Reggie Jackson comes to mind when he didn't even touch dude with a swipe and Reggie went easily to the hoop for and an one.
Those aren't phantom calls, incorrect calls yes, but you gotta know you can't swipe that hard when you've been caught out of position that badly. That's a foul most of the time and the refs aren't robots so they will rely on what they've learned

Vee-Rex
04-17-2016, 06:19 PM
you're team got a little help. it happens when you are the one seed n have a 4 time MVP on your team.

I disagree. You guys are complaining as if it was outrageously one of the worst officiated games ever. Wasn't even close.

But I get it. LeBron getting away with a foul call and yelling at a ref sticks out much more than 40000 uncalled fouls against him. Dude took 3 jump shots out of 19 total shots and only went to the line TWICE. People are too biased and obtuse to see it any other way, though.

I'll be the first to admit when the refs are favoring the Cavs, and I never complain when the Cavs get shafted. This game was nothing crazy at all.

Detroit hit everything for 3 and a half quarters. They'll be tough throughout the series but their ceiling is 1 win.

Scoots
04-17-2016, 06:29 PM
Those aren't phantom calls, incorrect calls yes, but you gotta know you can't swipe that hard when you've been caught out of position that badly. That's a foul most of the time and the refs aren't robots so they will rely on what they've learned

This. When the ref is shielded from a play they go by the swipe and sound and experience ... even if the slow motion replay says the call was wrong.

My response to all of these "blown call" conversations is going to be the same from now on. We need a 4th ref. 2 high and 2 low.

ewing
04-17-2016, 06:29 PM
I disagree. You guys are complaining as if it was outrageously one of the worst officiated games ever. Wasn't even close.

But I get it. LeBron getting away with a foul call and yelling at a ref sticks out much more than 40000 uncalled fouls against him. Dude took 3 jump shots out of 19 total shots and only went to the line TWICE. People are too biased and obtuse to see it any other way, though.

I'll be the first to admit when the refs are favoring the Cavs, and I never complain when the Cavs get shafted. This game was nothing crazy at all.

Detroit hit everything for 3 and a half quarters. They'll be tough throughout the series but their ceiling is 1 win.



if you case is the Bron doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from the refs your wrong.

Scoots
04-17-2016, 06:31 PM
I never complain when the Cavs get shafted.

I'm not out to prove that true or false, but if that's true then good for you man ... that's hard to do for most people. I certainly occasionally ***** about bad calls even though I understand they tend to even out.

ewing
04-17-2016, 06:32 PM
It wasn't a really poorly called game. A couple questionable calls down the stretch seemed worse then they were b/c Bron got away with 3 clear offensive fouls in the 1st half.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2016, 06:39 PM
It wasn't a really poorly called game. A couple questionable calls down the stretch seemed worse then they were b/c Bron got away with 3 clear offensive fouls in the 1st half.

He was also smacked/hit/fouled about 8 other times but doesnt get the calls because of his size.... See how that works? This was the best officiated game of all the first round games by far and if any team go the favor of the calls in this game it was Detroit if at all.... It was a great game and a great officiated game on both sides.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2016, 06:40 PM
I like how Pistons fans thought the refs were fine (other sites) but the anti LeBron dudes are crying.

Ft disparity was even until the late clock-saving fouls by the Pistons.

I originally thought this would be a 5 game series, but now I think it's going 4.

This is basically all it is in a nut shell and it will always be this way and continue.... it was a great officiated game period.

ewing
04-17-2016, 06:42 PM
He was also smacked/hit/fouled about doesnt get the calls because of his size.[/B]... See how that works? This was the best officiated game of all the first round games by far and if any team go the favor of the calls in this game it was Detroit if at all.... It was a great game and a great officiated game on both sides.


When did this doesn't get calls b/c of this size myth get created?

TrueFan420
04-17-2016, 06:48 PM
When did this doesn't get calls b/c of this size myth get created?

Shaq started it all

ewing
04-17-2016, 06:50 PM
Shaq started it all

at least Shaq was bigger and stronger then everyone else on the court

numba1CHANGsta
04-17-2016, 06:56 PM
Another cakewalk to the Finals for LeBron, no wonder this guy only plays on an Eastern Conference team lol

IKnowHoops
04-17-2016, 07:02 PM
Those aren't phantom calls, incorrect calls yes, but you gotta know you can't swipe that hard when you've been caught out of position that badly. That's a foul most of the time and the refs aren't robots so they will rely on what they've learned

Phantom...Incorrect, yeah I get what your saying about swiping like that, but if you swipe that hard and there is no foul sound or no jolt by the arm or body of Reggie then he didn't touch him. The refs just basically are guessing out there. But the point was both teams got some calls. Its wrong for posters on this site to say Pistons got cheated out there when they benefited from incorrect calls.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2016, 07:09 PM
Another cakewalk to the Finals for LeBron, no wonder this guy only plays on an Eastern Conference team lol

yea because the heat/celtics/raptors/pacers are garbage :rolleyes:

If we are using the conferences I think the cavs are currently playing a harder matchup then the warriors are.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2016, 07:39 PM
When did this doesn't get calls b/c of this size myth get created?

It's not a myth, LeBron regularly takes a lot of contact and doesn't get calls because his body is strong enough where he doesn't go flying on the floor all the time. The dude is built like a tank. He uses his off-arm a lot, but so does a lot of other players - the focus is just harder on LeBron as it is for every other thing.

Take a look at this tidbit. It's over a month old, but interesting nonetheless. It sums up all the whining people do about referees as well:

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2016/03/lebron-james-free-throws-chart/

Reading the article in its entirety is interesting information, but just by looking at the chart you'll see that despite the fact LeBron drives to the rim more than any other player in the league (except Westbrook), he gets less foul calls.

Anyone blowing their top over LeBron's off-hand should be receptive to the fact that he regularly gets hacked and doesn't get fouls. And guess what? Every other fanbase feels that they're getting shafted too.

It's just how it works. I agree with Scoots that there should be 4 referees. I had the same idea a long time ago and I really don't see what the harm would be.

basch152
04-17-2016, 07:51 PM
It's a complete myth.

If anythibg i see lebron get a **** ton of pansy touch calls that shouldn't be called.

He also creates contact and gets calls often.

SteBO
04-17-2016, 08:44 PM
It's not a myth at all. I watched it for four years in Miami, for all the hits LBJ takes when he drives to the basket he doesn't get anywhere near the calls Durant and Harden get, and with significantly less contact when discussing the latter two. Shaq went through the same ****. A foul is a foul no matter how strong and well built a player is. There shouldn't be different rules for different players. I get officials are human and the game can be hard to officiate, but at some point these refs need to be held more accountable. This is worst of all professional sports leagues when it comes to officiating, and I don't think its close.

More-Than-Most
04-17-2016, 08:59 PM
It's not a myth at all. I watched it for four years in Miami, for all the hits LBJ takes when drives to the basket he doesn't get anywhere near the calls Durant and Harden get, and with significantly less contact when discussing the latter two. Shaq went through the same ****. A foul is a foul no matter how strong and well built a player is. There shouldn't be different rules for different players. I get officials are human and the game can be hard to officiate, but at some point these refs need to be held more accountable. This is worst of all professional sports leagues when it comes to officiating, and I don't think its close.

100 percent spot on

bucketss
04-17-2016, 09:34 PM
lebron detractors should really try choosing their battles, honestly they make it harder for those who have legit criticism to be taken seriously..

ewing
04-17-2016, 10:06 PM
It's not a myth, LeBron regularly takes a lot of contact and doesn't get calls because his body is strong enough where he doesn't go flying on the floor all the time. The dude is built like a tank. He uses his off-arm a lot, but so does a lot of other players - the focus is just harder on LeBron as it is for every other thing.

Take a look at this tidbit. It's over a month old, but interesting nonetheless. It sums up all the whining people do about referees as well:

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2016/03/lebron-james-free-throws-chart/

Reading the article in its entirety is interesting information, but just by looking at the chart you'll see that despite the fact LeBron drives to the rim more than any other player in the league (except Westbrook), he gets less foul calls.

Anyone blowing their top over LeBron's off-hand should be receptive to the fact that he regularly gets hacked and doesn't get fouls. And guess what? Every other fanbase feels that they're getting shafted too.

It's just how it works. I agree with Scoots that there should be 4 referees. I had the same idea a long time ago and I really don't see what the harm would be.


He opened the game matched with Marcus Morris. Morris is comparable in a size and strength to LeBron. next round it will probably be Milsap and Al Horford if not is will be Jae and Amir. you are buying your own BS. For this theory to hold water he has to be bigger and stronger then everyone else. thats your starting point and its BS

Munkeysuit
04-17-2016, 10:11 PM
Let's be honest, the Pistons played damn near perfect until Reggie exploded and lost his mind at the end, and lets keep this honesty going with the fact that the Pistons will NEVER shoot this good for the remainder of this series, so Jeff Van Gundy was right! this game was the one shot they had to steal one in Cleveland. Cavs will adjust and that will be all she wrote for Detroit...there are no moral victories.

rocket
04-17-2016, 11:28 PM
I like how Pistons fans thought the refs were fine (other sites) but the anti LeBron dudes are crying.

Ft disparity was even until the late clock-saving fouls by the Pistons.

I originally thought this would be a 5 game series, but now I think it's going 4.

you won by 5 points with the refs giving you every single call and non call.

slow down buddy don't get too happy :laugh2:

rocket
04-17-2016, 11:29 PM
Reggie Jackson trying to go all Russell Westbrook too much, that is why they will likely lose. Too bad he can't play like a player who is a TEAM player.

yeah that was pretty dumb of him. should've kept the ball moving

kobe4thewinbang
04-17-2016, 11:44 PM
I like this Pistons team, though. I wouldn't object if they were legit contenders under SVG's watch soon. I think OKC will miss Reggie Jackson and KVP is a stud. Also, Drummond inhales rebounds.

Vee-Rex
04-17-2016, 11:57 PM
you won by 5 points with the refs giving you every single call and non call.

slow down buddy don't get too happy :laugh2:

Lol every single call and non call? Really? You obviously haven't seen anything, kid.

Bostonjorge
04-18-2016, 12:35 AM
Refs let James do whatever he wanted. Detroit had that game locked up and more importantly could of broke the fragile minded cavs.

IKnowHoops
04-18-2016, 02:00 AM
Refs let James do whatever he wanted. Detroit had that game locked up and more importantly could of broke the fragile minded cavs.

The fragile mind of Bron haters make the Cavs look like the Spartans on 300

prodigy
04-18-2016, 02:16 AM
first i wanna give credit to the Pistons. They showed a lot of heart and left everything out on that court. I admire that.

second, I think the Cavs were caught by surprise with Detroit 3pt shooting. Pistons don't shoot many so the Cavs didn't close out very hard expecting Detroit to drive more. Clearly the cavs got the message now and I don't expect Pistons to shoot like that again.

third, A few Pistons played way above their skill level mostly in that 1st half. I fully expect them to come back down to earth rest of series.

Next game will most likely be a Cavs blowout and Cavs will close it out in Detroit. Mad respect for Pistons putting up much better fight then many other teams.

basch152
04-18-2016, 02:19 AM
The fragile mind of Bron haters make the Cavs look like the Spartans on 300

Lebron was whining harder than i have ever seen anyoje whine over calls. I think the fragile mind criticism is pretty legit.

prodigy
04-18-2016, 02:21 AM
Refs let James do whatever he wanted. Detroit had that game locked up and more importantly could of broke the fragile minded cavs.

I hope you say the same thing after watching the Warriors play. I mean James Harden goes to the FT line 100 times more then anyone in the NBA and the refs said FU to him.

Thats honestly my biggest fear when Cavs meet warriors in the finals. Refs taking care of the NBA's baby.

prodigy
04-18-2016, 02:24 AM
Lebron was whining harder than i have ever seen anyoje whine over calls. I think the fragile mind criticism is pretty legit.

Name one player who doesn't complain. go ahead I'll wait.... I never understood this. Listen as a cavs i don't care for lebron like i use too. for clear reasons. But every player complains, its just more public because he's the best player on the planet for the last 10 years.

More-Than-Most
04-18-2016, 03:23 AM
Lebron was whining harder than i have ever seen anyoje whine over calls. I think the fragile mind criticism is pretty legit.

So you have never watched Iverson/Kobe or the Rockets game the other night?

IKnowHoops
04-18-2016, 05:22 AM
Lebron was whining harder than i have ever seen anyoje whine over calls. I think the fragile mind criticism is pretty legit.

I look at the source though...Lebron haters...and I can't take anything they say negative about Lebron seriously. But wait, wasn't it the Pistons that showed fragility when they got Teched for crying over a call (worse than Lebron). Yeah pretty sure that happened yet in your eyes Lebron cried more and the Cavs are more fragile even though the Tech on detroit illustrates why your wrong. The fragile mind criticism is the opposite of legit.

Munkeysuit
04-18-2016, 08:55 AM
Lebron James has a fragile mind? ...so says the man who reduces himself to a screen name and an avatar to express his opinions in the small corner of the internet...sitting behind a computer screen mind you, possibly in the same PJ's he hasn't washed for a week, all while eating a bowl of cereal because this topic is way too important to waste any time cooking a decent meal over. I mean a 30 year old multi millionaire athlete, that owns multiple homes, multiple businesses and is endorsed by some of the biggest companies in the world, all while maintaining a flawless physique, 3 kids and a marriage, starring in movies and commercials and on countless covers of magazines, who also has his own non profit organization by the way and is part owner of a european soccer team! the same guy that at age 18 has accomplished what most men never get to even dream of accomplishing in their entire lives, he made it to the NBA, the highest level of basketball and well lets just say he's pretty successful at that too! 12 time All Star, 2 time All Star MVP, Rookie of the Year, 4 time league MVP, 2 time Champion, 2 time Finals MVP, 11th ALL TIME in scoring and I'm supposed to take your opinion seriously?...SERIOUSLY?

Tony_Starks
04-18-2016, 09:35 AM
When you slide Kevin Love to center that Cleveland Big 3 is NO joke.

Almost more fun to watch than the previous Miami Super team because Kyrie is younger and still has that spring in his step.

I even witnessed Kyrie and Love playing defense!!!

Mr. Baller
04-18-2016, 09:41 AM
When you slide Kevin Love to center that Cleveland Big 3 is NO joke.

Almost more fun to watch than the previous Miami Super team because Kyrie is younger and still has that spring in his step.

I even witnessed Kyrie and Love playing defense!!!

They've tried Love at center against Miami and got killed with it. All depends on matchups, definitely works better against Detroit.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 10:31 AM
Lol @ these guys claiming LeBron got all the calls. He had four FTA and all came in the fourth. He got away with some calls.. big deal. Reggie Jackson was traveling all game. At the end of the day, Cavs capitalized while Pistons didn't. Horrible officiating judgement comes from the hate you guys have.

JWO35
04-18-2016, 11:37 AM
The "LeBron non-calls" was not the deciding factor of the game IMO. It was the Cavs offensive output in the 4th while the Pistons top performers (KCP, Morris, etc.) started to cool down. Plain and simple. Love at Center was the icing on the cake IMO. I'm not buying "This was Detroit's only chance" and "If they couldn't win this one its over" talk. Pistons played far from perfect. Yeah they were lights out from deep, but only ended the game shooting 51% from deep (higher than average, but far from the 60+% clip they were shooting earlier). IMO the Pistons can still steal a game or 2 if they don't commit so many turnovers (10 compared to CLE's 4) and don't allow too many offense rebounds(5 from DET and 12 from CLE). If anything the Cavs Big 3(81pts out of 106) played more perfect than Detroit's entire team and still only won by 5pts. Of course Detroit will come back to earth from deep, but I doubt Cleveland's Big 3 can play any better than this too.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 12:23 PM
The "LeBron non-calls" was not the deciding factor of the game IMO. It was the Cavs offensive output in the 4th while the Pistons top performers (KCP, Morris, etc.) started to cool down. Plain and simple. Love at Center was the icing on the cake IMO. I'm not buying "This was Detroit's only chance" and "If they couldn't win this one its over" talk. Pistons played far from perfect. Yeah they were lights out from deep, but only ended the game shooting 51% from deep (higher than average, but far from the 60+% clip they were shooting earlier). IMO the Pistons can still steal a game or 2 if they don't commit so many turnovers (10 compared to CLE's 4) and don't allow too many offense rebounds(5 from DET and 12 from CLE). If anything the Cavs Big 3(81pts out of 106) played more perfect than Detroit's entire team and still only won by 5pts. Of course Detroit will come back to earth from deep, but I doubt Cleveland's Big 3 can play any better than this too.

It wasn't like Kyrie played amazing, though. Plus, LeBron wasn't really forcing anything but more-so getting Love+Irving involved the entire game. I do agree that the Pistons gave it a tough game but they average 9 threes per game on 36% shooting. They made 15 threes on 51% shooting. That's 18 points extra on incredibly efficiency. That's probably never going to happen again this series. I don't think Cavs played great that game, either. Love and James were really the only ones who had a great game. Bench was relatively MIA as well.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 12:37 PM
You can't sleep on these eastern teams anymore if you're Cleveland. Detroit has the players to abuse the Cavs defensive weaknesses , anyone know if Reggie is fully healthy?http://financeseeyou.com/red/images/24.gif http://financeseeyou.com/red/images/7.gif
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He looked healthy to me. I definitely agree that the EC is no joke right now. Excluding the LAC/Warriors/Spurs/OKC, you can make the case that every EC playoff team is better than the remaining four WC playoff teams. Crazy how one year turned it all around. Remember when they were considering removing the conferences and just having the best sixteen teams?

Mr_Jones
04-18-2016, 12:37 PM
Lebron James has a fragile mind? ...so says the man who reduces himself to a screen name and an avatar to express his opinions in the small corner of the internet...sitting behind a computer screen mind you, possibly in the same PJ's he hasn't washed for a week, all while eating a bowl of cereal because this topic is way too important to waste any time cooking a decent meal over. I mean a 30 year old multi millionaire athlete, that owns multiple homes, multiple businesses and is endorsed by some of the biggest companies in the world, all while maintaining a flawless physique, 3 kids and a marriage, starring in movies and commercials and on countless covers of magazines, who also has his own non profit organization by the way and is part owner of a european soccer team! the same guy that at age 18 has accomplished what most men never get to even dream of accomplishing in their entire lives, he made it to the NBA, the highest level of basketball and well lets just say he's pretty successful at that too! 12 time All Star, 2 time All Star MVP, Rookie of the Year, 4 time league MVP, 2 time Champion, 2 time Finals MVP, 11th ALL TIME in scoring and I'm supposed to take your opinion seriously?...SERIOUSLY?

Lol yes because you get paid a lot of money and are given made up awards means that you're a great person. Reality of the situation is that he is an entertainer. Majority of athletes are braindead who likely couldn't do much else in the world.

You sound like one of those eleven year olds who replies to criticism with: "Well, check his bank account!"

"flawless physique" gayyyyyyyyyy

Mr_Jones
04-18-2016, 12:39 PM
LeBron fan or not, a foul is a foul and you'd be blind to not see what was going on out there. Never seen a mental midget bigger than that dude.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 12:42 PM
LeBron fan or not, a foul is a foul and you'd be blind to not see what was going on out there. Never seen a mental midget bigger than that dude.

It's not that difficult to comprehend that superstars get the benefit of the calls. Really, if that is your argument, you should quit watching the NBA because it will always happen. You can thank Jordan for that, really. Yeah, there were missed calls here and there but no one talks about guys like Reggie Jackson and Drummond getting away with traveling at all. The guy only had four FT's and it came in the fourth quarter. Cavs didn't even get more FT's than the Pistons (considering they had more possessions) in a FT-possessions ratio. I can certainly make the case that refs have been starting to not give LeBron calls as well. He's averaging only 6 FTA's per game this season.. that's ridiculous for a player of his stature.

Vee-Rex
04-18-2016, 12:53 PM
The "LeBron non-calls" was not the deciding factor of the game IMO. It was the Cavs offensive output in the 4th while the Pistons top performers (KCP, Morris, etc.) started to cool down. Plain and simple. Love at Center was the icing on the cake IMO. I'm not buying "This was Detroit's only chance" and "If they couldn't win this one its over" talk. Pistons played far from perfect. Yeah they were lights out from deep, but only ended the game shooting 51% from deep (higher than average, but far from the 60+% clip they were shooting earlier). IMO the Pistons can still steal a game or 2 if they don't commit so many turnovers (10 compared to CLE's 4) and don't allow too many offense rebounds(5 from DET and 12 from CLE). If anything the Cavs Big 3(81pts out of 106) played more perfect than Detroit's entire team and still only won by 5pts. Of course Detroit will come back to earth from deep, but I doubt Cleveland's Big 3 can play any better than this too.

A+ post, man.

But I gotta throw this at you... :D

Love played great and I'll be the first to tell you that he won't play that well regularly. But Kyrie missed a lot of layups he can normally make.

Also, the Cavs are gonna have a game when Channing Frye put up 14 points on 4/6 from 3pt and 2/2 from the line...

The Cavs are gonna have a game when JR goes 6/9 from 3pt range with 20 points.

Or Delly is gonna finish 3/5 from 3 with 14 points and 9 assists.

The Cavs can not only play better, but they can make up for the fact that their big 3 (Kevin Love anyway) won't regularly have games like they did game 1.

Detroit? There is no scenario that I see where their guys will play better overall. Other than Drummond scoring a few extra points and pulling down a few more rebounds, they can't really play better.

And the Cavs didn't even bother trying to hack-a-Dre at all. He was 1/2 from the line.

I just don't see how it'll get much better from Detroit.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 01:01 PM
A+ post, man.

But I gotta throw this at you... :D

Love played great and I'll be the first to tell you that he won't play that well regularly. But Kyrie missed a lot of layups he can normally make.

Also, the Cavs are gonna have a game when Channing Frye put up 14 points on 4/6 from 3pt and 2/2 from the line...

The Cavs are gonna have a game when JR goes 6/9 from 3pt range with 20 points.

Or Delly is gonna finish 3/5 from 3 with 14 points and 9 assists.

The Cavs can not only play better, but they can make up for the fact that their big 3 (Kevin Love anyway) won't regularly have games like they did game 1.

Detroit? There is no scenario that I see where their guys will play better overall. Other than Drummond scoring a few extra points and pulling down a few more rebounds, they can't really play better.

And the Cavs didn't even bother trying to hack-a-Dre at all. He was 1/2 from the line.

I just don't see how it'll get much better from Detroit.

They didn't hack Dre because I think they took him out for the remaining minutes. Detroit played way above their ability while the Cavs didn't. When you look at the game, only Love had a great game (compared to the average games he has played). LeBron didn't play excellent (because he was trying to get others involved) but we all know he's most dangerous when he's active and engaged offensively. It is not a coincidence that Love+Irving both took more shots than LeBron despite LeBron having a good shooting night. Look to see Irving+Love gaining confidence from game 1. If not, look to see LeBron going for a 30 point game. Not much to be said about the rest of the Cavs. J.R. made timely threes but he wasn't in rhythm like he usually is. Delly is one of the best three point shooters on the team but was 0-4.

IMO, Tristan is going to have a tough game going against Drummond this series here and it's why Love was matched up against him for the majority of the ending game. I wouldn't mind seeing Frye in there if Drummond starts dominating Love in the post. But really, I don't expect Pistons to be that great offensively for the rest of the series (outside the fourth). They aren't a great three point shooting team at all.

CHANGO
04-18-2016, 03:05 PM
This was the best game of the weekend. Close, competitive and very well officiated. Pistons came to play and Love & Irving woke up. You can see that Lebron is coasting just giving shots to Irving and Love to get the confidence going. Hope that we can see a competitive series with this two teams.

BTW the "Eastern Conference is weak, cake walk" excuse doesn't apply anymore, please keep that in the past, that coupon has already expired. If you want to use that coupon, you need to change EC to "Western Conference". Thank you.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 03:08 PM
This was the best game of the weekend. Close, competitive and very well officiated. Pistons came to play and Love & Irving woke up. You can see that Lebron is coasting just giving shots to Irving and Love to get the confidence going. Hope that we can see a competitive series with this two teams.

BTW the "Eastern Conference is weak, cake walk" excuse doesn't apply anymore, please keep that in the past, that coupon has already expired. If you want to use that coupon, you need to change EC to "Western Conference". Thank you.

WC had its moment. EC eventually caught up due to their rebuilding stage being close to finished. I think it's equally competitive right now.

CHANGO
04-18-2016, 03:16 PM
WC had its moment. EC eventually caught up due to their rebuilding stage being close to finished. I think it's equally competitive right now.

Right now it isn't, playoffs for the West are a joke, Rockets vs Warriors, the Rockets all season long was a joke of a team and very inconsistent. Grizzlies with a D-League team, if they had Gasol, Conley and Chalmers they would be competitive but no, they don't have those players right now. Then the banged up Mavs against the freak duo of OKC. Barea, Deron, Lee banged up and Parsons out, add to the fact that Westbrook is a freak and nobody on that Mavs team can stop him and the same applies with Durant and that's another easy win. Only competitive series on the West is the Blazers vs Clippers and we shall see that one because it can be over quick too.

It's just an ugly playoff picture for the West.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 03:19 PM
Right now it isn't, playoffs for the West are a joke, Rockets vs Warriors, the Rockets all season long was a joke of a team and very inconsistent. Grizzlies with a D-League team, if they had Gasol, Conley and Chalmers they would be competitive but no, they don't have those players right now. Then the banged up Mavs against the freak duo of OKC. Barea, Deron, Lee banged up and Parsons out, add to the fact that Westbrook is a freak and nobody on that Mavs team can stop him and the same applies with Durant and that's another easy win. Only competitive series on the West is the Blazers vs Clippers and we shall see that one because it can be over quick too.

It's just an ugly playoff picture for the West.

It's a joke because the top four teams in the West are just too good. Put Warriors/OKC/Spurs/Clippers on the East and the 5-8 spots would be just as dreadful.

CHANGO
04-18-2016, 08:07 PM
It's a joke because the top four teams in the West are just too good. Put Warriors/OKC/Spurs/Clippers on the East and the 5-8 spots would be just as dreadful.

You are reaching, Celtics, Hornets, Pacers and Pistons are damn good teams, compare them with the Blazers, injured Mavs, injured Grizzlies and the Rockets and you can see the disparity.

I'm not arguing that the West is heavy on the top, everyone knows that, but you can't tell me that the injured Mavs/Grizzlies and the no-defense-can't-run-fastbreaks Rockets are great teams or better than the 5 to 8 Eastern teams.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 08:12 PM
You are reaching, Celtics, Hornets, Pacers and Pistons are damn good teams, compare them with the Blazers, injured Mavs, injured Grizzlies and the Rockets and you can see the disparity.

I'm not arguing that the West is heavy on the top, everyone knows that, but you can't tell me that the injured Mavs/Grizzlies and the no-defense-can't-run-fastbreaks Rockets are great teams or better than the 5 to 8 Eastern teams.

Can you prove that?

CHANGO
04-18-2016, 09:01 PM
Can you prove that?

Can you prove the top 4 teams on the West would have an easy ride if they were in the East? :o

SteBO
04-18-2016, 09:59 PM
Lol yes because you get paid a lot of money and are given made up awards means that you're a great person. Reality of the situation is that he is an entertainer. Majority of athletes are braindead who likely couldn't do much else in the world.

You sound like one of those eleven year olds who replies to criticism with: "Well, check his bank account!"

"flawless physique" gayyyyyyyyyy
This post wreaks of hater, I'm sorry. You're bringing up "majority" of athletes as if they're relevant. Aside from a select few (arguable), LBJ is on a far different level from other athletes across sports. He isn't just an entertainer anymore. Saying he has a fragile mind is moronic to be kind.

FlashBolt
04-18-2016, 10:53 PM
Can you prove the top 4 teams on the West would have an easy ride if they were in the East? :o

I could but I won't. Why? Because if you are the one disputing my argument, then you should be the one to find the fault in it.

rocket
04-19-2016, 01:18 AM
LeBron fans: Cavs fans and Heat fans

:laugh: that's awful

prodigy
04-19-2016, 05:18 AM
A+ post, man.

But I gotta throw this at you... :D

Love played great and I'll be the first to tell you that he won't play that well regularly. But Kyrie missed a lot of layups he can normally make.

Also, the Cavs are gonna have a game when Channing Frye put up 14 points on 4/6 from 3pt and 2/2 from the line...

The Cavs are gonna have a game when JR goes 6/9 from 3pt range with 20 points.

Or Delly is gonna finish 3/5 from 3 with 14 points and 9 assists.

The Cavs can not only play better, but they can make up for the fact that their big 3 (Kevin Love anyway) won't regularly have games like they did game 1.

Detroit? There is no scenario that I see where their guys will play better overall. Other than Drummond scoring a few extra points and pulling down a few more rebounds, they can't really play better.

And the Cavs didn't even bother trying to hack-a-Dre at all. He was 1/2 from the line.

I just don't see how it'll get much better from Detroit.

Very well said agree 100%

jerellh528
04-20-2016, 08:21 PM
Good start by Detroit so far

ewing
04-20-2016, 08:43 PM
Is Stanley Johnson this good?

basch152
04-20-2016, 08:47 PM
Is Stanley Johnson this good?

Yes. He's beem great all year.

ewing
04-20-2016, 09:07 PM
is it me or does SVG always have this look like he just smelled something really bad

zn23
04-20-2016, 09:18 PM
Cav's 11/20 from 3 and only up by 2. Has to be a moral victory for the Pistons but if they can't start knocking down some 3's they're in big trouble.

tdg823
04-20-2016, 09:27 PM
Lebron fans are the Donald Trump supporters of the NBA. Remember when he said he could shot somebady and people'd still support him? Lebron could literally punch someone in the face on a drive, fall unconscious into him and you guys would say lebron got mugged. Like someone said earlier, it's been like this for at least ten years. If you didn't see it his first stint in cleveland or in miami, you're not going to notice it now. In fact when I watch him play anymore he's seemed to tone down the offensive fouls somewhat this year. He was much more blatant and frequent with it in the past. And yes, every year I watch less and less NBA. It's an insult to my intelligence to have to witness blatant (to varying degrees) superstar calls and act lack everything's even. His go to move is an off arm forearm shiver, come playoff time I had no doubt it would resurface. Foul discrepancies are a poor way to gauge this argument though. He goes to the basket, initiates contact and you want me to feel bad he doesn't get more whistles? In the words of the immortal Flavor Flav, "I can't do nothin' for you man"

aman_13
04-20-2016, 09:38 PM
Detroit is playing really well. They played well enough to win game 1. This could be a very interesting series if they win tonight.

jason
04-20-2016, 09:41 PM
Piston is playing good basketball right now.. Cleveland just hitting it from 3 right now

FlashBolt
04-20-2016, 09:46 PM
Detroit is playing with more energy but any time a team with LeBron shoots 1 ft 30 minutes into the game, you know it's being horribly officiated.

FlashBolt
04-20-2016, 09:49 PM
Lebron is so full of himself..

basch152
04-20-2016, 09:49 PM
Detroit is playing with more energy but any time a team with LeBron shoots 1 ft 30 minutes into the game, you know it's being horribly officiated.

Lol. Smh, you think the refs are favoring the pistons? Seriously?

ewing
04-20-2016, 09:53 PM
not a good time for JR Smith to have one of these 10 three games, also Tobias has been bad. I like him and liked the move but he hasn't been good

FlashBolt
04-20-2016, 09:53 PM
Lol. Smh, you think the refs are favoring the pistons? Seriously?

When did I say that? I simply stated that it's impossible for a LeBron-type team to have 1 FT 30 min in. As in, it's probably never happened before ever. I already stated that Pistons were playing with more energy.

On a side note, LeBron has the highest BBIQ I've ever seen. It's beautiful to watch.

basch152
04-20-2016, 09:59 PM
not a good time for JR Smith to have one of these 10 three games, also Tobias has been bad. I like him and liked the move but he hasn't been good

He seems shaken. Don't know whats up with him

basch152
04-20-2016, 10:00 PM
When did I say that? I simply stated that it's impossible for a LeBron-type team to have 1 FT 30 min in. As in, it's probably never happened before ever. I already stated that Pistons were playing with more energy.

On a side note, LeBron has the highest BBIQ I've ever seen. It's beautiful to watch.

Lebron has not attacked the basket one time.

All his points so far are 3s, turn around fades, and wide open lobs.

It has nothing to do with officiating.

The cavs in general haven't attacked the basket much. Getting a lot of 3s.

If they had more FTs then i would question the officiating.

FlashBolt
04-20-2016, 10:01 PM
TT can't rebound against guys who are clearly bigger than him. Would love to see Mosgov play a few minutes just to make it more difficult for the Pistons. Also, Kyrie is not a natural playmaker. Dribble dribble, stop, then stands there for 4 seconds looking clueless. If LeBron isn't there, they need Delly to sub in and be the playmaker.

FlashBolt
04-20-2016, 10:02 PM
Lebron has not attacked the basket one time.

All his points so far are 3s, turn around fades, and wide open lobs.

It has nothing to do with officiating.

So where did I say anything about LeBron specifically? Cavs shot 1 FT in 30 minutes. That's never happened before in a LeBron-led team.

basch152
04-20-2016, 10:07 PM
So where did I say anything about LeBron specifically? Cavs shot 1 FT in 30 minutes. That's never happened before in a LeBron-led team.

And then i edited it to point out the cavs as a whole haven't attacked the basket, they're getting a lot of 3s and open shots.

Literally nothing to do with officiating.

Vee-Rex
04-20-2016, 10:14 PM
Pistons overachieved game 1. They'll likely play the Cavs tough a few quarters each game and lose.

As I said before - Kevin Love will be inconsistent but JR and Delly will step it up from time to time.

JWO35
04-20-2016, 10:16 PM
Pistons overachieved game 1. They'll likely play the Cavs tough a few quarters each game and lose.

As I said before - Kevin Love will be inconsistent but JR and Delly will step it up from time to time.

You guys should give Steve Blake the game ball

WaDe03
04-21-2016, 12:18 AM
Stanley is talking so much **** about LeBron after game 2 lol. He's fired up, if he's not careful LeBron is going to come out and put 50 on him.

FlashBolt
04-21-2016, 12:53 AM
Stanley is talking so much **** about LeBron after game 2 lol. He's fired up, if he's not careful LeBron is going to come out and put 50 on him.

Yeah, idk why he's so pumped when he had the worst +/- on his team today. -22. Hopefully LeBron uses it as more motivation to end these Pistons in four. I was thinking it may go 5-6 but we haven't really seen an engaged/interested LeBron yet.

ISIAH_THOMAS
04-21-2016, 01:58 AM
Stan knows Pistons have no shot to win this series so he is going to get his shots in now. Interested to see game 3. Have a feeling a fight is going to happen before the series is over

this and the OKC/Mavs series are now my fav series

More-Than-Most
04-21-2016, 02:22 AM
Lebron has not attacked the basket one time.

All his points so far are 3s, turn around fades, and wide open lobs.

It has nothing to do with officiating.

The cavs in general haven't attacked the basket much. Getting a lot of 3s.

If they had more FTs then i would question the officiating.

Without even using the watching the game crap I will just give you this...

http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2016/eastseries1/?ls=iref:nba:scoreboard

The highlights... The first 4 highlights are him attacking and going to the bucket. 2 of the plays were clear as day fouls... The officiating in this series is fine but you honestly did not watch the game at all considering this was just the highlights... actually watching the game he went to the basket several times and was contacted several times.... Again the officiating is no an issue but James does not get calls because of his size and this is another game that showed just that.

prodigy
04-21-2016, 03:10 AM
Stanley seems really shaken. I wonder if pistons players that sit on the bench will beat the crap out of him. considering Stanley thinks every player who don't get 30min a game should be in the stands.

naps
04-21-2016, 05:09 AM
Pistons will be tough to beat at home. They lost their chance in game 1. They really could make it a series if their defense stepped up in that game.
Also wtf is up Stanley Johnson? He looks like a whore looking for attention. Talk about being in the undeserved spotlight. He needs to play better, A LOT better in order to open his mouth like this. It's one thing when SVG opens his mouth but it's completely unwarranted when this rookie wants a piece of it. I have a good feeling LeBron will drop 40+ next game.

SteBO
04-21-2016, 07:04 AM
I like Stanley Johnson a lot because the kid is fearless, has pride, and doesn't back down from anyone. But he rambled a little too long there and that just comes from immaturity and not understanding the circumstances you're facing. LBJ is never a guy you wanna poke.....he feeds off that.

SteBO
04-21-2016, 08:33 AM
Just saw that LBJ dunk in the 2nd quarter....he REALLY enjoyed that one lol.

ewing
04-21-2016, 08:47 AM
I like Stanley Johnson a lot because the kid is fearless, has pride, and doesn't back down from anyone. But he rambled a little too long there and that just comes from immaturity and not understanding the circumstances you're facing. LBJ is never a guy you wanna poke.....he feeds off that.

Bron's coming either way. Stanley's comments where stupid but he is a young kid that plays hard. I like him

STRIKERC
04-21-2016, 10:29 AM
Some of you hug LeBron's nuts tighter that Savannah.
You all are so ready to rip a rookie but too deep in Bron's colon to call him out on jawing with a rookie.
Stanley is firmly planted in his head, and he's only a rookie.

Let's see how much trash spits out when he goes against grown men like Kawhi and Iggy.

cmellofan15
04-21-2016, 11:33 AM
Some of you hug LeBron's nuts tighter that Savannah.
You all are so ready to rip a rookie but too deep in Bron's colon to call him out on jawing with a rookie.
Stanley is firmly planted in his head, and he's only a rookie.

Let's see how much trash spits out when he goes against grown men like Kawhi and Iggy.

most people here object to people talking off the court and sounding butt hurt like Johnson...Lebron has done it too and people don't condone it. all in all, it's a rookie mistake and he'll probably learn from it after Lebron turns the intensity up on him. but you seem to have a problem with trash talk on the court...which to me just sounds like:

1. you're just a softie who doesn't enjoy competition on the court

or

2. you feel like you've been personally victimized by Lebron.

if you're going with option 1 i'd just suggest that you stop watching because that's the competitive nature of the game. if it's option 2 then I hope you can learn to forgive Lebron for whatever he has done to you.

FlashBolt
04-21-2016, 12:08 PM
No one is questioning Stanley's toughness but he has no clue what he's talking about and thus, should have just shut his mouth. He didn't get in LeBron's head... if Lance and his silly antics couldn't, what makes you think some guy who LeBron consistently has scored on when it's a 1-on-1 coverage, thinks he can? BTW, I think the league needs to clear this up: When LeBron attacks the rim, he should not be penalized because a 190 lb guard thinks it's a good idea to defend him. That's like putting Reggie Jackson on Shaq and then hoping the refs will feel sympathy. The sheer size advantage coupled with LeBron's force is too much for a 250 lb'er to handle... even SVG acknowledged that the plan was to get LeBron under foul trouble via offensive fouls. It's such a lame loophole. Small guards need to be taught a lesson.

Tony_Starks
04-21-2016, 12:36 PM
Stanley is a solid young player with promise but he must've still been celebrating 420.

Don't bark up that tree, that tree may fall on you.

Lebron may very well give him a nice 40 piece as a going away present before the Pistons are dismissed.

STRIKERC
04-21-2016, 02:44 PM
If i'm playing against a guy and he felt the need to bump into me while walking off the court i don't need a rocket scientist to tell me he has my attention.
Stanley is at fault for talking but i haven't seen one person call Bron out for bumping into the guy purposefully.
You guys can continue worshiping him.

FlashBolt
04-21-2016, 03:03 PM
If i'm playing against a guy and he felt the need to bump into me while walking off the court i don't need a rocket scientist to tell me he has my attention.
Stanley is at fault for talking but i haven't seen one person call Bron out for bumping into the guy purposefully.
You guys can continue worshiping him.

That bump wasn't a huge issue... Noticed, no one cares about what Johnson did other than what he said. Calling the Cavs bench "cheerleaders" when he's 19 and proved nothing yet is disrespectful and shows his immaturity. Is he talking about Richard Jefferson? Mosgov? These guys may be in the bench but they deserve more respect than being called cheerleaders. I guess Stanley Johnson thinks he's some sort of superstar or something.

Tony_Starks
04-21-2016, 03:41 PM
If i'm playing against a guy and he felt the need to bump into me while walking off the court i don't need a rocket scientist to tell me he has my attention.
Stanley is at fault for talking but i haven't seen one person call Bron out for bumping into the guy purposefully.
You guys can continue worshiping him.

I'm far from a worshipper but I loved Bron bumping him. This is a grown mans game, if you're going to talk like Stanley did then be prepared to back it up. He's the one poking the bear.

I admire the kid for not backing down but there's a line between being standing your ground and being delusional.

He's talking about being in Lebrons head when in reality he's getting tossed around like a rag doll!

WaDe03
04-21-2016, 03:42 PM
His defense on LeBron has been garbage anyways. People in the media are trying to hype it up but he's dominating Stanley. ESPN stats and info tweeted it but he's basically scored on Stanley on every shot attempt against him.

Vee-Rex
04-21-2016, 04:27 PM
PlAyOfF LeBrOn GoAt-MoDe AcTiVaTeD

https://vine.co/v/iFIaXOKOwjF

rocket
04-21-2016, 05:45 PM
No problem with what Stanley said. At the end of the day LeBron is going for that title and doesn't need a rookie to motivate him to do it

And at the end of the day the Warriors are going to win it all the next 2 years minimum so LeBron going try hard mode won't matter. He's going to burn out lol

STRIKERC
04-21-2016, 05:54 PM
I'm far from a worshipper but I loved Bron bumping him. This is a grown mans game, if you're going to talk like Stanley did then be prepared to back it up. He's the one poking the bear.

I admire the kid for not backing down but there's a line between being standing your ground and being delusional.

He's talking about being in Lebrons head when in reality he's getting tossed around like a rag doll!

The bump came before the talk. Stanley wouldn't have talked if LeBron hadn't bumped. In fact he wouldn't have been asked about any of this had the bump not occurred.

You're trying too hard to fit in that LeBron lingerie.

JWO35
04-21-2016, 06:26 PM
Stanley is talking so much **** about LeBron after game 2 lol. He's fired up, if he's not careful LeBron is going to come out and put 50 on him.

As a Piston fan I love this from our rookie. We need guys like this that just won't back down...the chances of the Pistons winning this series are slim, but they aren't just going to back down (*cough* Hornets & Celtics *cough*).

If this lights a fire under LeBron so be it, but I like to hear this type of talk instead of just the typical BS most people give when they're interviewed. Looks like SVG "realness" is rubbing off on this team and I like it honestly

Vee-Rex
04-21-2016, 10:46 PM
As a Piston fan I love this from our rookie. We need guys like this that just won't back down...the chances of the Pistons winning this series are slim, but they aren't just going to back down (*cough* Hornets & Celtics *cough*).

If this lights a fire under LeBron so be it, but I like to hear this type of talk instead of just the typical BS most people give when they're interviewed. Looks like SVG "realness" is rubbing off on this team and I like it honestly

I'm feeling it.

That's exactly how I'd want my young team to approach it. Play with confidence and a chip on your shoulder no matter who you're playing against. It really bodes well for the future of Detroit, especially with SVG as coach.

I bet this next game in the Palace is gonna be intense. Can't wait!

FlashBolt
04-22-2016, 12:48 PM
Yeah, I definitely like the kid's attitude but can anyone explain why he called the Cavs bench "cheerleaders"? That's disrespectful and one day, he'll be out of the league if he doesn't grow the hell up. Who the hell is teaching him that nonsense? Does he not understand that his own team has these "cheerleaders"?

WaDe03
04-22-2016, 01:55 PM
Yeah, I definitely like the kid's attitude but can anyone explain why he called the Cavs bench "cheerleaders"? That's disrespectful and one day, he'll be out of the league if he doesn't grow the hell up. Who the hell is teaching him that nonsense? Does he not understand that his own team has these "cheerleaders"?

He won't be out of the league, he has a bright future. I agree though he needs to watch his mouth because he's hurting his teams chances and he's also at risk of getting his own teammates pissed at him that may not play many minutes.

JWO35
04-22-2016, 04:37 PM
Yeah, I definitely like the kid's attitude but can anyone explain why he called the Cavs bench "cheerleaders"? That's disrespectful and one day, he'll be out of the league if he doesn't grow the hell up. Who the hell is teaching him that nonsense? Does he not understand that his own team has these "cheerleaders"?

:facepalm:

More-Than-Most
04-22-2016, 07:50 PM
Drummon just forearmed lebron to the head/face and nothing... xD

IKnowHoops
04-22-2016, 07:55 PM
Drummon just forearmed lebron to the head/face and nothing... xD

But Bron gets all the calls doe

More-Than-Most
04-22-2016, 09:00 PM
But Bron gets all the calls doe

lol yup

numba1CHANGsta
04-22-2016, 11:11 PM
Cavs are acting like they're playing in the NBA Finals out there lol cocky teams never win in the end though

WaDe03
04-23-2016, 12:00 AM
Bad game for LeBrons standards only 20-13-7.

SteBO
04-23-2016, 07:16 AM
Bad game for LeBrons standards only 20-13-7.
From an efficiency standpoint maybe, but when the two teammates you're relying on are playing the way they're playing right now, it hardly matters especially in the first round. Can't lie, I've been really impressed with how Love and Irving have been playing.

ewing
04-23-2016, 07:56 AM
Drummon just forearmed lebron to the head/face and nothing... xD

its b/c Bron is bigger and stronger

ewing
04-23-2016, 08:01 AM
Disappointing night for the Pistons. gotta give respect to the Cavs. I don't think the Pistons are a typical 8 seed. one seeds often take the first round lightly and if the Cavs did this round it could have been dangerous but they are taking care of business. anyway, you could tell tonight that Detroit just wasn't going to get over that hump. I think JR corner 3 and AD needing to be taken out in the 4th were big moments. I liked that Tobias starting trying to get closer in the 4th and got some buckets. I think Detroit can attack a bit more but they have played very well. They also aren't quite sure what to do with the ball in end game situations but that comes with experience.

Anyway quote of the night- JVG "you can kick it up there and do better then 35%"

ewing
04-23-2016, 08:03 AM
From an efficiency standpoint maybe, but when the two teammates you're relying on are playing the way they're playing right now, it hardly matters especially in the first round. Can't lie, I've been really impressed with how Love and Irving have been playing.

Irving can fill it up I'm not surprised when he does. Love has been great in a lot of areas though. He was a play maker out of the post tonight.

More-Than-Most
04-23-2016, 08:23 AM
its b/c Bron is bigger and stronger

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25563933/watch-andre-drummond-got-away-with-a-forearm-to-lebron-james-face

How is this not called? how is this a basketball play? Next time why not just sucker punch James instead?

ewing
04-23-2016, 08:27 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25563933/watch-andre-drummond-got-away-with-a-forearm-to-lebron-james-face

How is this not called? how is this a basketball play? Next time why not just sucker punch James instead?

cause the ref didn't see it. Bron threw one at AD in game one and got away with it. He also had a push off on Steve Blake in this game that was 30 feet from the hole with no one around him everyone in the gym saw it. These guys miss calls.

WaDe03
04-23-2016, 11:59 AM
From an efficiency standpoint maybe, but when the two teammates you're relying on are playing the way they're playing right now, it hardly matters especially in the first round. Can't lie, I've been really impressed with how Love and Irving have been playing.

I was just being sarcastic that's a monster game but people will look at efficiency and say it was a bad game. They have been playing pretty well. We'll see if they can keep it up.

FlashBolt
04-23-2016, 05:48 PM
:facepalm:

My comment had more to do with how he thinks of his own bench. Calling them cheerleaders for cheering for their own team just shows the type of thinking that goes on in his mind. "Oooh, I'm playing and guarding LeBron James! Everyone else is a cheerleader! And I'm 19!" Pretty sure this kid is thinking along those lines. Again, I have nothing wrong with him talking about LeBron. Just the fact he thinks people who are in the bench should be called cheerleaders.

prodigy
04-24-2016, 04:18 AM
Some of you hug LeBron's nuts tighter that Savannah.
You all are so ready to rip a rookie but too deep in Bron's colon to call him out on jawing with a rookie.
Stanley is firmly planted in his head, and he's only a rookie.

Let's see how much trash spits out when he goes against grown men like Kawhi and Iggy.

ummm, you know who LeBron is right? lol he's been around for a couple years. Lebron had talked trash and takin it from people better then Kawhi and def Iggy. Not sure what makes you think he hasn't.

prodigy
04-24-2016, 04:22 AM
I'm feeling it.

That's exactly how I'd want my young team to approach it. Play with confidence and a chip on your shoulder no matter who you're playing against. It really bodes well for the future of Detroit, especially with SVG as coach.

I bet this next game in the Palace is gonna be intense. Can't wait!

I'm sorry I cant take SVG for real. not to be mean but he's a short little ball of fat. he's sooo ugly lol. I'm going to heck but its true. If Stanley can speak his mind I can too.

eDush
04-24-2016, 07:12 PM
I'm sorry I cant take SVG for real. not to be mean but he's a short little ball of fat. he's sooo ugly lol. I'm going to heck but its true. If Stanley can speak his mind I can too.

Not sure what that has to do with coaching. As long as he can prepare his players to play and remain focus and play the game the right way (clean). That's all you can ask for which SVG has done and it was a great hire by the Pistons :nod: Not only that, he reap the wild wind during the trading deadline as a GM by stealing Harris from the Magic when most everyone else had cold feet and did nothing.

SVG > Thibs as far as control of basketball decisions goes and building a team the right way goes when all is said and done imho :nod:

eDush
04-24-2016, 07:16 PM
FYI - SVG was the Warriors 2nd choice had Kerr decided to take that Knicks job which seem so long ago and i think we would have won a championship with him as well :nod:

FlashBolt
04-24-2016, 10:17 PM
I'm a LeBron nuthugger but I gotta say, this guy has the greatest IQ in basketball history. It's beautiful...

FlashBolt
04-24-2016, 11:08 PM
nice hook by reggie jackson..

nastynice
04-24-2016, 11:12 PM
Kyrie been a stud all game long! I feel like he's legit growing these playoffs

nastynice
04-24-2016, 11:13 PM
lol, ****, filthy *** dunk!

2-15's4-22's
04-24-2016, 11:14 PM
Good game so far Kyrie is ballin doing Lebrons job

Crackadalic
04-24-2016, 11:18 PM
Detroit needs discipline when they play bit other then that the future is bright

Vincent
04-24-2016, 11:18 PM
Reggie Jackson really feeling himself

FlashBolt
04-24-2016, 11:23 PM
This is why shooting FT's is such a huge deal. Drummond didn't play like the final 7 minutes...

Yanks All Day
04-24-2016, 11:26 PM
Detroit might have just been swept, but they played nothing like an 8 seed. There's a bright future for these Pistons.

On the other hand, Cleveland played a great series. Their 3 stars are clicking. Make no mistake, this version of the Cavaliers can beat any team in the NBA. They're an exceptionally talented team.

FlashBolt
04-24-2016, 11:28 PM
If Kyrie can play like this, IDC who your PG is.. they will have to play great. This is the Kyrie they needed all season long. He was active in defense and looked like the franchise player while LeBron just let Kyrie take over.

numba1CHANGsta
04-25-2016, 12:32 AM
Thankful that this snorefest of a series is over

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 12:34 AM
Thankful that this snorefest of a series is over

That was the best series so far...

Vee-Rex
04-25-2016, 12:52 AM
Glad it's over. Hopefully Atl/Bos goes 7 games so we get plenty of rest.

nastynice
04-25-2016, 12:55 AM
Thankful that this snorefest of a series is over

Snore fest? Did u watch the last two games? Both went down to the last 1-2 min

basch152
04-25-2016, 01:04 AM
Snore fest? Did u watch the last two games? Both went down to the last 1-2 min

3/4 games were down the last few minutes and the fourth was back and forth until half way through the third.

****, the first game had 20 somethinglead changes, how could that possibly be a snorefest?

prodigy
04-25-2016, 02:19 AM
Not sure what that has to do with coaching. As long as he can prepare his players to play and remain focus and play the game the right way (clean). That's all you can ask for which SVG has done and it was a great hire by the Pistons :nod: Not only that, he reap the wild wind during the trading deadline as a GM by stealing Harris from the Magic when most everyone else had cold feet and did nothing.

SVG > Thibs as far as control of basketball decisions goes and building a team the right way goes when all is said and done imho :nod:

My point still stands lol. He seems like a really good coach! Even in game 4 he was clapping and I'm just like wtf is a walrus doing on the floor.

As far as him winning a ship if he was coach of warriors. Do they have Curry, Thompson, green etc...? playing against a Love and Irving-less cavs team? they better win lol.

ewing
04-25-2016, 05:34 AM
shame the Cavs get championship treatment even though they have never won anything. Reggie was clearly fouled twice on the way down the floor and a 3rd time on the shot. well good series, it a shame the Pistons couldn't get one, the final ending wasn't going to change but i would have liked to see them not get swept.

Tony_Starks
04-25-2016, 09:05 AM
It there's such a thing as a competitive sweep that was one. The Pistons played tough, that experience will help them next season.

Kyrie did his thing, it was a good warm up for him. 26 points 5 assist and shooting over 50% from the field and 3.... Impressive.

eDush
04-25-2016, 09:35 AM
shame the Cavs get championship treatment even though they have never won anything. Reggie was clearly fouled twice on the way down the floor and a 3rd time on the shot. well good series, it a shame the Pistons couldn't get one, the final ending wasn't going to change but i would have liked to see them not get swept.

Reggie would have gotten the call if he had slash to the basket to tie the game instead of thinking he was Curry in taking that awkward looking 3 to be the hero. He's cocky with no substance if you know what I mean:nod:

valade16
04-25-2016, 09:55 AM
It there's such a thing as a competitive sweep that was one. The Pistons played tough, that experience will help them next season.

Kyrie did his thing, it was a good warm up for him. 26 points 5 assist and shooting over 50% from the field and 3.... Impressive.

It's funny because I'm seeing all these articles like "the Cavs are focused" or "They've finally found out how to use the Big 3" or "Cavs on a mission to win the title" portraying them as focused and finally the juggernaught we'd all thought they'd be and I'm watching this series thinking they are legit struggling against Detroit for long stretches.

That series does not inspire me at all in terms of their ability to go toe to toe with the Warriors or Spurs for an entire series.

ewing
04-25-2016, 10:06 AM
Reggie would have gotten the call if he had slash to the basket to tie the game instead of thinking he was Curry in taking that awkward looking 3 to be the hero. He's cocky with no substance if you know what I mean:nod:


He was forcing but I don't know if he could have gotten to the basket. Not sure if he had time and he might have just coughed it up with Ivring bodying him so hard. The right play might have been to give it up but i think he was fouled. There was a lot of contact in the open floor with both guys in motion. It seemed pretty visible. I think the ref had to have seen contact but he decided to swallow his whistle for the possession unless someone got decapitated. Sometimes that's it works on final possessions. I do question if they would have called it the same the other way. he is cocky but he does have some substance :nod:

eDush
04-25-2016, 10:19 AM
Reggie would have gotten the call if he had slash to the basket to tie the game instead of thinking he was Curry in taking that awkward looking 3 to be the hero. He's cocky with no substance if you know what I mean:nod:


He was forcing but I don't know if he could have gotten to the basket. Not sure if he had time and he might have just coughed it up with Ivring bodying him so hard. The right play might have been to give it up but i think he was fouled. There was a lot of contact in the open floor with both guys in motion. It seemed pretty visible. I think the ref had to have seen contact but he decided to swallow his whistle for the possession unless someone got decapitated. Sometimes that's it works on final possessions. I do question if they would have called it the same the other way. he is cocky but he does have some substance :nod:
He initiated the contact with that pronounce body lean and that would never jive with the refs. No difference than flopping. He had time as there were like 4 sec left before he decided to be the hero. I don't think anyone was open near the basket.

ewing
04-25-2016, 10:27 AM
He initiated the contact with that pronounce body lean and that would never jive with the refs. No difference than flopping. He had time as there were like 4 sec left before he decided to be the hero. I don't think anyone was open near the basket.


he was pushing as hard as he could and released the final shot with a second on the clock. he had no chance to get to the hole. He did lean but but Irving also bodied him twice on the way down, took a swipe, and might have been on his hip regardless. i thought he was fouled

Tony_Starks
04-25-2016, 10:42 AM
It's funny because I'm seeing all these articles like "the Cavs are focused" or "They've finally found out how to use the Big 3" or "Cavs on a mission to win the title" portraying them as focused and finally the juggernaught we'd all thought they'd be and I'm watching this series thinking they are legit struggling against Detroit for long stretches.

That series does not inspire me at all in terms of their ability to go toe to toe with the Warriors or Spurs for an entire series.

Well Detroit is not your typical 8th seed team. That team is balanced and well coached, I'd go so far to say they would've beat most of the other teams in the east playoffs.

To beat them 4 straight is nothing to sneeze at, that series could've easily went 6 if they weren't focused.

ewing
04-25-2016, 10:47 AM
Well Detroit is not your typical 8th seed team. That team is balanced and well coached, I'd go so far to say they would've beat most of the other teams in the east playoffs.

To beat them 4 straight is nothing to sneeze at, that series could've easily went 6 if they weren't focused.


I agree. i think Clev over matched them as would have the Heat. I think they have a legit shot against the rest of the east.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 10:53 AM
It's funny because I'm seeing all these articles like "the Cavs are focused" or "They've finally found out how to use the Big 3" or "Cavs on a mission to win the title" portraying them as focused and finally the juggernaught we'd all thought they'd be and I'm watching this series thinking they are legit struggling against Detroit for long stretches.

That series does not inspire me at all in terms of their ability to go toe to toe with the Warriors or Spurs for an entire series.

I do agree partially with what you said but at the end of the day, this Pistons team was much better than your typical 8th seed. Their starting five can compete against any team and with SVG coaching, it was never going to be easy. The great thing is you saw Kyrie play with hunger. Love was actively being aggressive the entire series and did his job rebounding against Drummond. I thought LeBron did a great job controlling the pace of the game. What the Pistons lack was star power to end games. I am laughing at those who think that Reggie Jackson was fouled. Kyrie played great defense by staying in front of him. Reggie Jackson was trying to force contact (like Harden but he's no Harden) and tried to be on the BREAKING NEWS headlines on ESPN/NBA.com. There was a wide open lane. He should have went to the line by forcing a paint shot because he has great handles. Instead, he just kept barging in like an armored truck shooting an unnecessary three.

ManRam
04-25-2016, 11:11 AM
I just voted Cavs in 4.

ManRam
04-25-2016, 11:13 AM
Well Detroit is not your typical 8th seed team. That team is balanced and well coached, I'd go so far to say they would've beat most of the other teams in the east playoffs.

I don't think the Cavs did anything impressive but I do agree that Detroit is better than your usual 8th seed. And I'd go so far as to say that they're better than 2, maybe 3, of the WC playoff teams. It was a decent first round test, but I think Detroit is a unique match up to what they'll see from here on out as well.

eDush
04-25-2016, 11:24 AM
Well Detroit is not your typical 8th seed team. That team is balanced and well coached, I'd go so far to say they would've beat most of the other teams in the east playoffs.

I don't think the Cavs did anything impressive but I do agree that Detroit is better than your usual 8th seed. And I'd go so far as to say that they're better than 2, maybe 3, of the WC playoff teams. It was a decent first round test, but I think Detroit is a unique match up to what they'll see from here on out as well.
Agreed, when you have the most gifted center in Drummond, you can beat anyone and we have lost to them so I know. They could have taken the Grizzlies, Rox and maybe the Mavs but have the misfortune of facing the favorite to win it all according to the odd makers.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 12:04 PM
Agreed, when you have the most gifted center in Drummond, you can beat anyone and we have lost to them so I know. They could have taken the Grizzlies, Rox and maybe the Mavs but have the misfortune of facing the favorite to win it all according to the odd makers.

They could easily beat the Blazers. Blazers don't match up well against the starting five of Detroit. Grizzlies/Rockets/Mavs are just total jokes right now. Not in the sense of disrespect but all their main guys are injured. Plus, Rockets are a mess. Tied up in the half, no Steph, and they come out playing a preseason type effort game.

Vee-Rex
04-25-2016, 02:40 PM
I get it, the Pistons in 4 guys are trolls, but I wonder why people chose Pistons in 7?

eDush
04-25-2016, 02:57 PM
I get it, the Pistons in 4 guys are trolls, but I wonder why people chose Pistons in 7?Not trolls but homers of the deep end that would pick the Pistons to sweep the Cavs. Like all homers, reality is beyond their grasp to comprehend match up no matter how good the opponents are. If I say we will sweep the Spurs, that makes me a homer cause any rational fan know that is not likely, regardless of any impact due to injuries.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 03:13 PM
Majority of those game 7 voters via Piston aren't from Piston fans.

cmellofan15
04-25-2016, 03:41 PM
Not trolls but homers of the deep end that would pick the Pistons to sweep the Cavs. Like all homers, reality is beyond their grasp to comprehend match up no matter how good the opponents are. If I say we will sweep the Spurs, that makes me a homer cause any rational fan know that is not likely, regardless of any impact due to injuries.

aren't you the guy that said PG>KD? lmao

eDush
04-25-2016, 05:24 PM
Not trolls but homers of the deep end that would pick the Pistons to sweep the Cavs. Like all homers, reality is beyond their grasp to comprehend match up no matter how good the opponents are. If I say we will sweep the Spurs, that makes me a homer cause any rational fan know that is not likely, regardless of any impact due to injuries.

aren't you the guy that said PG>KD? lmao

That's not a homer statement. It's not even a man crush thing since it's arguable that George is better than Durant on some aspect then on others. He doesn't talk smack nor the need to elbow rookies and is a mild mannered but very talented professional like a Duncan:nod:

Now I ask someone if KD was on that Pacers squad instead of PG, would they be a better team or not and how so.... ...care to respond to that?

basch152
04-25-2016, 05:56 PM
I don't think a single voter is even a pistons fan... so yeah, stupid little rant.

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 06:07 PM
That's not a homer statement. It's not even a man crush thing since it's arguable that George is better than Durant on some aspect then on others. He doesn't talk smack nor the need to elbow rookies and is a mild mannered but very talented professional like a Duncan:nod:

Now I ask someone if KD was on that Pacers squad instead of PG, would they be a better team or not and how so.... ...care to respond to that?

This is just a blatant attempt of showing you can't evaluate players at all. PG is arguably just a better defender. His defense hasn't been too amazing compared to a few seasons ago either. So what are we looking at? Who's the better scorer? Kevin Durant is probably the greatest pure scorer we've ever seen. Paul George is very inefficient compared to the other elites. KD is universally ranked as a top five player and has been for the past what? five seasons? Paul George may not even be a top ten in some lists (though he is on mine). KD is a better rebounder and passer. He's a better playmaker. He is just a better player. If you think PG>KD, then you think PG is a top five player.. He's not. When ranking players, I would put it as this: (Not adding any frontcourt players).

Tier 1: KD, LeBron, Westbrook, Curry, CP3, Kawhi, Harden.
Tier 2: Paul George, Klay Thompson, Butler, Kyrie Irving.
Tier 3: Dragic.

CHANGO
04-25-2016, 06:37 PM
This was the best series so far. Close games, lead changes, good defense, great offense, I like it.

Big props to Kyrie, I'm always criticizing him for his defense and his shot selection but man, he played great in this series, defended pretty well and hit some amazing shots. Cavs looking scary, this was no easy 8th seed, Pistons are a great team and also great coached team.

CHANGO
04-25-2016, 06:47 PM
They could easily beat the Blazers. Blazers don't match up well against the starting five of Detroit. Grizzlies/Rockets/Mavs are just total jokes right now. Not in the sense of disrespect but all their main guys are injured. Plus, Rockets are a mess. Tied up in the half, no Steph, and they come out playing a preseason type effort game.

:eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:

eDush
04-25-2016, 07:07 PM
This is just a blatant attempt of showing you can't evaluate players at all. PG is arguably just a better defender. His defense hasn't been too amazing compared to a few seasons ago either. So what are we looking at? Who's the better scorer? Kevin Durant is probably the greatest pure scorer we've ever seen. Paul George is very inefficient compared to the other elites. KD is universally ranked as a top five player and has been for the past what? five seasons? Paul George may not even be a top ten in some lists (though he is on mine). KD is a better rebounder and passer. He's a better playmaker. He is just a better player. If you think PG>KD, then you think PG is a top five player.. He's not. When ranking players, I would put it as this: (Not adding any frontcourt players).

Tier 1: KD, LeBron, Westbrook, Curry, CP3, Kawhi, Harden.
Tier 2: Paul George, Klay Thompson, Butler, Kyrie Irving.
Tier 3: Dragic.

:laugh2: Because i take George over Durant, it shows that i can't evaluate players at all. For me, i would always take a two way superstar over a one way superstar all day long while all you care about is the stats which explain why you put Harden at the first tier but Klay in the 2nd tier while i would Klay>Harden all day long cause i care about winning which is more than what they put up on the box scores that you seem to advocate but i guess you really showed me huh.

PG + Klay > KG + Harden all day long. Defense is very important for me and it should be for stars as well but what do i know.

Head to head matchup just a month ago between PG and KD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dAtigJi3Ts)

And if i were to build a team, i would not hesitate to take my boy George over Durant because he plays both side of the ball well (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1880078-which-superstar-would-you-rather-build-around-kevin-durant-or-paul-george) :nod:

And Durant knows this.... (https://thecauldron.si.com/usa-basketball-post-practice-paul-george-drives-dunks-vs-kevin-durant-386093636120#.u4e17sfu0):speechless:

:dance:

FlashBolt
04-25-2016, 07:33 PM
:laugh2: Because i take George over Durant, it shows that i can't evaluate players at all. For me, i would always take a two way superstar over a one way superstar all day long while all you care about is the stats which explain why you put Harden at the first tier but Klay in the 2nd tier while i would Klay>Harden all day long cause i care about winning which is more than what they put up on the box scores that you seem to advocate but i guess you really showed me huh.

PG + Klay > KG + Harden all day long. Defense is very important for me and it should be for stars as well but what do i know.

Head to head matchup just a month ago between PG and KD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dAtigJi3Ts)

And if i were to build a team, i would not hesitate to take my boy George over Durant because he plays both side of the ball well (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1880078-which-superstar-would-you-rather-build-around-kevin-durant-or-paul-george) :nod:

And Durant knows this.... (https://thecauldron.si.com/usa-basketball-post-practice-paul-george-drives-dunks-vs-kevin-durant-386093636120#.u4e17sfu0):speechless:

:dance:

You can't evaluate players precisely because you think PG is better than KD.

1) Durant's defense is very underrated. He struggles against bigger guys but his length makes up for it. PG's defense hasn't been the same since he was injured. Your two way player argument doesn't work at all since KD's offense is 1000000x better than PG's while PG's defense is just a tad better. Not enough to melt the tipping point.

2) I put Harden there because he can still carry a team. Klay can't do that. He would not be leading this Rockets team to and in the playoffs at all. He's a great two-way player but much of his success is based off riding two other great players who are better than him: Green and Curry. There are plenty of games in which Klay has struggled and his team has managed to win handily. Not many in which Harden has a bad game and his team comes out winning.

3) Funny that you used a H2H matchup. Even in that game, KD went for 33-13-8 on 55% shooting. PG went 45-7-4 on 48% shooting. If you ask me, KD was a much more efficient scorer and player that game.

Here's the real data for their career, btw, since you claim PG is such a great defender and use pointless arguments to support it.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=duranke01&p2=georgpa01

Now quit the nonsense. KD is better than PG and that's coming from someone who is a fan of both players. I don't have to be biased to realize this.

Kush McDaniels
04-25-2016, 07:58 PM
KD is better than PG, and it's not close.

cmellofan15
04-26-2016, 01:43 PM
you put KD on that Pacers team they would be better and wouldn't have been as inconsistent as they were this year because they'd have a much better player.

TrueFan420
04-27-2016, 10:22 AM
Pistons owner and Cavs owner teaming up to bring an MLS franchise to Detroit.