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beasted86
03-30-2016, 10:07 AM
03/28 - 04/04 Schedule:
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Miami HEAT Vs Brooklyn Nets
Monday, March 28, 7:30 PM

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Miami HEAT @ Los Angeles Lakers
Wednesday, March 30, 10:30 PM


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Miami HEAT @ Sacramento Kings
Friday, April 1, 10:00 PM


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Miami HEAT @ Portland Trailblazers
Saturday, April 2, 10:00 PM

beasted86
03-30-2016, 10:08 AM
Good win against Brooklyn, they have to at least grab the next two against LA and Sacramento

archdevil84
03-30-2016, 12:03 PM
we cant afford to lose vs the blazers. right now we have an ever so slight lead on the celtics and hornets in the loss colomn. hawks are even but 2 wins ahead. Every game matters

beasted86
03-30-2016, 02:36 PM
I'm hoping whatever conflict with Nick Young and Russell continue tonight and the HEAT blow them out and get rest early.

I don't want Wade, Johnson, Deng or Whiteside to have to play at all in the 4th. Save them for the back to back starting Friday.

naps
03-30-2016, 02:47 PM
I want to see a lot of Josh MacRoberts tonight. Spo needs to figure out if he will be in the playoff rotation already. He needs to get accilimated into the system perfectly. He is a kind of player who is kinda hard to play with unless you are accustomed to playing alongside him enough because he is such a terrific distributor.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 03:42 PM
I want to see we are getting in playoff shape and not be lazy any of these games and beat the teams we should. Blazers should be a tough one, but we should still get them.

WaDe03
03-30-2016, 06:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing more of playoff Wade tonight.

All-In
03-30-2016, 09:05 PM
Winslow should sit tonight.......Hopefully we get a nice lead at Lakers, restrict some minutes too

archdevil84
03-30-2016, 09:54 PM
last duel ever between wade and kobe, wish i could watch it

Slug3
03-30-2016, 10:44 PM
It's been like 4 shots from LA to start and I've seen nothing but open jumpers from them. Hope we don't fall into a lazy half ***** game.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 10:45 PM
last duel ever between wade and kobe, wish i could watch it

Nose bleeds were starting at over $200 a ticket. I wanted to go but didn't want to spend that.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 10:49 PM
I can't believe that Hibbert went from killing us to pretty much sucking and being one of the worst starting centers in the league. I'm sure there are even a lot of backups that are better.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:03 PM
Our second unit is absolutely killing us.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:06 PM
It's been awhile. But that quarter the second unit blew a 13 point lead in about 5 minutes. A good mixture of missing open shots and playing bad D. So far Whiteside looks very disinterested out there for some reason.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:10 PM
We might need to sit dragic. That illness looks like it could affecting him. Looks a little slow and his shot looks off. Might as well just rest him.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:13 PM
Seems like I only get to tune into games where Winslow shoots bad. Lol

Also I'm talking to myself tonight. Lol

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:17 PM
Wow bench point so far.

Lakers -20.

Heat -1

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:17 PM
And what the ****. Whiteside 0-4 on FTs.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:25 PM
Man seems like so far only Wade and JJ are here to play. Everyone else is playing like crap.

Mr. Baller
03-30-2016, 11:26 PM
The Mob forgot to show up

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:27 PM
And Dieng.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:28 PM
The Mob forgot to show up

Start of the 2nd the bench had 1 point. I don't think they have scored at all the quarter.

WaDe03
03-30-2016, 11:36 PM
The bench was terrible. Terrible first half but the vets are pulling through for us.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:53 PM
Good to see the starters didn't want to leave the bench hanging this second half and decided to come out like crap.

Slug3
03-30-2016, 11:58 PM
Richardson is playing so poorly on both ends.

HandsOnTheWheel
03-31-2016, 12:00 AM
Completely out of sync

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:05 AM
I haven't been watching too much lately when we have been playing Greg. But damn do they look bad tonight.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:08 AM
Boy rook 1 and rook 2 have been pretty bad tonight as well.

HandsOnTheWheel
03-31-2016, 12:21 AM
:facepalm: Smh

SteBO
03-31-2016, 12:21 AM
Disgusting performance tonight.....what an eyesore

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:21 AM
Rooks a powerful 1-12 tonight with Richardson shooting 0-8. Lol. Rough night. I don't know when the team got in, but they had to have gone partying late last night or something. They look like dog crap out three. A fight for the 3 seed and this is what we are showing up with.

beasted86
03-31-2016, 12:22 AM
Yeah, I have a bad feeling they will let this one go. Pitiful.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:25 AM
We really got hurt once Kobe went out for good. He was terrible for them. Lol

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:28 AM
Whitesides numbers look OK. But Hibbert has outplayed him so far tonight.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:35 AM
Damn Winslow is playing some lazy D.

HandsOnTheWheel
03-31-2016, 12:37 AM
Getting all the stops with no boards. Smhh

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:38 AM
We have let them shoot 25 more shots so far than us due to their 20 offensive rebounds and our turnovers. We didn't come prepared tonight at all and I can only assume we just though we would walk in here and get an easy win.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:42 AM
If we still lose. It was nice to see Whiteside dove for that lose ball.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:43 AM
Best thing about the Lakers is their unbiased commentators.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:46 AM
Man wades jumped looks like he's got a lot of legs under him tonight. Good to see. Now get a stop.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:49 AM
The fact they are shooting 33% for the entire game and it's a tie game is horrible.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 12:52 AM
Why are our game winning or tying plays always look like a soupy garbage?

naps
03-31-2016, 12:52 AM
Wade hits everything but cant hit the winner. A very familiar sequence. When was the last time he hit a buzzer beater winner? Must be years.

Mr. Baller
03-31-2016, 12:53 AM
Somebody screwed that up, Deng was pissed

Slug3
03-31-2016, 01:01 AM
They have run the pick on Whiteside this whole OT and we have not even come close to stopping it.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 01:06 AM
With such short time I'm going to assume we run either a play with the pass to the bucket. Or the one we seem to love where it's to wade in the corner for a falling away 3.

HandsOnTheWheel
03-31-2016, 01:07 AM
Pathetic.

Slug3
03-31-2016, 01:07 AM
Tank the season for that top 10 protected pick. Lol

Honestly there is playing down to your opponents level. And then there is going above and beyond to do that like today.

beasted86
03-31-2016, 02:03 AM
Too many turnovers, fouls, and gave up too many offensive boards.

This team simply doesn't have enough shooting. When Richardson and Johnson are off we are total garbage that can be zoned.

TJ and Bosh aren't going to come to the rescue hitting shots after missing such a long time.

SteBO
03-31-2016, 07:26 AM
Just a disgraceful team performance. Richardson had been shooting 3's at a torid rate for a month, so him hitting the wall hard last night isn't at all a shock and Johnson has been missing 3's left and right for a while now. On top of that, he hasn't been aggressive in looking for his shot which can be a blessing and a curse. Without those two guys at least being average from out there, our shooting isn't ever gonna be consistently good enough. Hassan was good overall, but Hibbert had his way with him out there during key stretches of the game (offensive rebounds being the biggest one). The turnovers are gonna be the teams' biggest achilles heel heading into the playoffs.

All-In
03-31-2016, 07:52 AM
Damn Winslow is playing some lazy D.

Winslow playing was a bad idea, his knee isnt going to get any better playing 5 games in 7 nights upcoming

beasted86
03-31-2016, 08:51 AM
The scouting report is clearly out there now.

Teams are consistently going into a zone defense against us over the past 2-3 weeks. Spo needs to spend entire practices coaching offensive sets against it because I expect to see it often in the playoffs.

archdevil84
03-31-2016, 08:56 AM
this is ridiculous. every time we got a golden opportunity to grab the third seed we just blow it. the hawks lost to the raptors giving us a lead in the loss colomn. we have a great chance to finally snatch the third seed and not give it away and we blow it by losing to the lakers. the LAKERS, who are 15-59. this is just straight up emberassing. we are supposed to beat this team by atleast 20 points. Why are we SO damn inconsistent....

Slug3
03-31-2016, 09:42 AM
this is ridiculous. every time we got a golden opportunity to grab the third seed we just blow it. the hawks lost to the raptors giving us a lead in the loss colomn. we have a great chance to finally snatch the third seed and not give it away and we blow it by losing to the lakers. the LAKERS, who are 15-59. this is just straight up emberassing. we are supposed to beat this team by atleast 20 points. Why are we SO damn inconsistent....

Outside of Wade/Dieng and Whiteside, everyone else was pretty horrible tonight. But for some reason we could get a stop, but not secure the rebound. It led to them having 20 offensive boards and at one time towards the end of the 4th had taken almost 25 more shots than us in the entire game. Thats why they were able to shoot so bad and win.

SteBO
03-31-2016, 09:58 AM
Outside of Wade/Dieng and Whiteside, everyone else was pretty horrible tonight. But for some reason we could get a stop, but not secure the rebound. It led to them having 20 offensive boards and at one time towards the end of the 4th had taken almost 25 more shots than us in the entire game. Thats why they were able to shoot so bad and win.
Whiteside played 39 minutes....and by the end of the game Hibbert & Randle were grabbing the offensive rebounds over him. That screams fatigue to me, because once the Lakers made a run during the third quarter, Hassan came in and never came out. I get the 8 man rotation has been working, but during this stretch it wouldn't hurt to play McBob and give Green spot minutes especially on late season west coast trip.

beasted86
03-31-2016, 10:37 AM
McRoberts has a tendency to hold the ball, and teams know he isn't a threat to score. His rebounding is poor and he seems to be foul prone. I don't expect him in the playoff rotation. Spo will just play more Stoudemire.

Green plain sucks because he can't shoot anymore, so he's fairly useless. He is completely one dimensional.

I wonder if Dorrell is still an option. We should sign him for the last 3 games of the season and play him 35 minutes a game. Let him prove if he's a better option than Green or TJ who hasn't shot a 3PTer for 4 months.

All-In
03-31-2016, 06:54 PM
Whiteside played 39 minutes....and by the end of the game Hibbert & Randle were grabbing the offensive rebounds over him. That screams fatigue to me, because once the Lakers made a run during the third quarter, Hassan came in and never came out. I get the 8 man rotation has been working, but during this stretch it wouldn't hurt to play McBob and give Green spot minutes especially on late season west coast trip.

I agree with this....the 8 man rotation is fine for the playoffs but with 8 games left, minute reduction and body preservation is more important than seeding, especially when our "best" players are 30-34 yr old......Green and McBob and maybe even Haslem should be getting 20-25 min a night until the postseason starts..........Winslow's knee isnt right, Dragic has a bad ankle and was sick, Deng has a bad thigh, Wade and JJ are 34 and Whiteside has never played this many minutes in his nba career....we end the season playing 5 games in 7 nights, we need to expand the rotation to at least 10-11, have our starters play a maximum of 30 minutes a game and rest our players judiciously from game to game, for this team, I think fresh legs are more important than seeding

lavilevi23
04-01-2016, 01:38 AM
We're lucky Cousins is suspended for tomorrows game... They better get a W!

Slug3
04-01-2016, 10:57 PM
Green hits a few shots and gets a few lucky bounces and he wants to start taking the worst shots possible.

Slug3
04-01-2016, 11:06 PM
See when green sets his feet and gets a good open look he's been money tonight.

Slug3
04-01-2016, 11:35 PM
Watching green tonight has been so weird. He will have one or 2 awesome plays. Then have like one or 2 head scratchers. But at least so far he's mostly been positive.

Slug3
04-01-2016, 11:47 PM
Joe is in a bad shooting slump lately.

Slug3
04-01-2016, 11:58 PM
They have literally shot 3 times more FTs than us and we have committed over double the fouls. It's almost like they are trying to help them catch up.

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:01 AM
We blew a 24 point lead. Fantastic.

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:02 AM
Whiteside looks like he doesn't even want to be playing. Lol

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:06 AM
Richardson has also hit a rough patch.

lavilevi23
04-02-2016, 12:09 AM
Man if we lose this..

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:09 AM
So is Spo going to put Green back in? It's rare he's hot like this and it will be a shame if we don't let him finish it.

Dade County
04-02-2016, 12:17 AM
I really dont care for Spo as a coach

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:20 AM
Wow we are actually going to lose. I wonder if it's because we kept calling plays for Winslow to go one on one like he's got his great offensive game or something.

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:24 AM
I really dont care for Spo as a coach

We blew the lead because he refuses to ride the hot hand of Green. His biggest weakness is he can't adjust his substations to go with the hot hand. Instead if someone goes out at the 4 minute mark then he takes him out regardless. He's done this his whole coaching career and I still remember all the times he killed Wades momentum.

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:25 AM
So Whiteside gets grabbed by the neck and it's not a flagrant? It's almost as if these refs don't care to show those biases tonight.

Slug3
04-02-2016, 12:37 AM
That was a terrible win. Lol

flashelement
04-02-2016, 12:44 AM
That was a terrible win. Lol

This time of the year I'll take it. Especially after that brutal loss in L.A

naps
04-02-2016, 12:57 AM
Winslow sucks offensively. Can't shoot, can't finish around the rim, doesn't have a floater. Yes I know he is pretty awesome defensively but goddamn his offense sucks. He needs to really focus on finishing around the rim and start developing a floater this off-season. His shooting will take years to come around if it ever does, it looks ugly and he doesn't have good shooting mechanics. So if he becomes a good finisher, at least he can use his athleticism to become a slasher.

beasted86
04-02-2016, 01:14 AM
With them playing defense like this against scrub teams there's no way they win tomorrow in Portland.

SteBO
04-02-2016, 01:20 AM
With them playing defense like this against scrub teams there's no way they win tomorrow in Portland.
Offense too. I'm not fooled by the 112 points we put up, that's a bad defense we went up against and the offense in the second half was disgraceful. Dragic has shown all year long that he's incapable of running a half court offense effectively. Hassan had 4 shots total because neither him nor anyone else could get him the ball. He's also very passive when the game slows. The good thing is, we won't have to hear anymore #withoutwade for a VERY long time. Tonight showed how important he really is because in the playoffs the game is gonna slow down, and he's a vastly superior half court setup man than Dragic.....

beasted86
04-02-2016, 01:25 AM
Winslow sucks offensively. Can't shoot, can't finish around the rim, doesn't have a floater. Yes I know he is pretty awesome defensively but goddamn his offense sucks. He needs to really focus on finishing around the rim and start developing a floater this off-season. His shooting will take years to come around if it ever does, it looks ugly and he doesn't have good shooting mechanics. So if he becomes a good finisher, at least he can use his athleticism to become a slasher.
You have to be patient and remember he just turned 20 a few days ago.

Look at Stanley Johnson and Mario Hezonja who you were so high on entering the draft. All 3 of them have huge holes in their game right now.

I just want Winslow to get some playoff experience and to keep working hard. I definitely like the (good) Stephenson comparison. I see him developing more handles and being that type of triple double threat, but not a volume scorer or shooter.

Wade n Fade
04-02-2016, 02:00 AM
With them playing defense like this against scrub teams there's no way they win tomorrow in Portland.

Boston beat GSW after a back to back for one of the most historic upsets ever. It's bigger than Brock Lesnar vs the Undertaker. Point is anything can happen in the NBA.

naps
04-02-2016, 02:58 AM
You have to be patient and remember he just turned 20 a few days ago.

Look at Stanley Johnson and Mario Hezonja who you were so high on entering the draft. All 3 of them have huge holes in their game right now.

I just want Winslow to get some playoff experience and to keep working hard. I definitely like the (good) Stephenson comparison. I see him developing more handles and being that type of triple double threat, but not a volume scorer or shooter.

I know he is still pretty young. And I do have patience but it gets frustrating during games when you see him getting blocked or not being able to finish after doing the harder part (setting himself up in a position from where you should be able to finish that play). I mean I dont really care about his shooting and I wont until his 3rd year (I feel it will take longer for him to become good at it than most), but I expect him to finish a lil better than he does now and I certainly expect him to improve a lot on it next year. He needs to just keep defenses honest or else it becomes a 4 vs 5. Knowing he is mature and a gym rat, I am expecting a much improved year offensively (not necessarily per game stats) next season.

naps
04-02-2016, 03:05 AM
Oh and no I never wanted Stanley Johnson (I think you are mixing me up with someone else). I was high on three players: Winslow, Cauley-Stein, Mario. I said many times Winslow would be the best player of this draft in the long run (Ofcourse, I was wrong, it's KAT) and I wished if we could trade up to get him. Funny how that turned out. I thought we had a real shot at Cauley-Stein and an outside shot at Mario. I also clearly didn't want Devin Booker. Crazy how scouting reports work.

Slug3
04-02-2016, 09:25 AM
Winslow sucks offensively. Can't shoot, can't finish around the rim, doesn't have a floater. Yes I know he is pretty awesome defensively but goddamn his offense sucks. He needs to really focus on finishing around the rim and start developing a floater this off-season. His shooting will take years to come around if it ever does, it looks ugly and he doesn't have good shooting mechanics. So if he becomes a good finisher, at least he can use his athleticism to become a slasher.

The only positive tonight was Winslows game by the rim. Had a nice and 1 and a few others go in as the clock was winding down. But as a whole his offensive game is still pretty raw. There were times it looked like we were running iso plays for him. I hope we really were not and he just did that on himself. But it was ugly. Lol

beasted86
04-02-2016, 09:40 AM
Yeah I meant Mario not Johnson.

Leading into the draft I didn't think Winslow was going to drop and didn't really read scouting reports. All I knew about him was he played well in the final 4.

I wanted either Johnson or Booker.

Regardless I'm very satisfied with the tools and maturity I see from Winslow. He's above the curve defensively, he seems to have a knack for cuts and getting to tap outs and loose balls. He naturally plays like a forward. I think in time he will develop more handles and passing skills. They are grooming him the right way asking him to bring the ball up and play point in summer league. His shooting should also come along in 2-3 years and I expect him to be a dependable mid range and corner 3 like Deng, but his strengths will never be volume 3 attempts and weaving pick and rolls like a PG/SG. And he will definitely improve finishing in traffic.

archdevil84
04-02-2016, 09:40 AM
We blew the lead because he refuses to ride the hot hand of Green. His biggest weakness is he can't adjust his substations to go with the hot hand. Instead if someone goes out at the 4 minute mark then he takes him out regardless. He's done this his whole coaching career and I still remember all the times he killed Wades momentum.

oh boy, dont remind me of that ****. it was literally EVERY SINGLE TIME wade got hot he got pulled out of the game. it was ridiculous

WaDe03
04-02-2016, 12:46 PM
oh boy, dont remind me of that ****. it was literally EVERY SINGLE TIME wade got hot he got pulled out of the game. it was ridiculous

Yea he better not be doing that **** in the playoffs.

lavilevi23
04-02-2016, 10:55 PM
We look like complete garbage

WaDe03
04-02-2016, 11:22 PM
Don't be surprised when Dragic and McRoberts are traded this summer to keep Whiteside and go after KD/LeBron

lavilevi23
04-02-2016, 11:32 PM
Looking more and more like a 1st round exist team

Slug3
04-03-2016, 12:05 AM
Honestly this teams peak is making it out of the first round. Anything after that is extra. If any of you are putting too much into this then stop now.

naps
04-03-2016, 12:10 AM
We look so ****ing lost out there. Defense sucks. Like I warned right before the trip it just might be a 1-2 trip...oh well

naps
04-03-2016, 12:15 AM
Our defensive rebounding has gone south as well throughout this trip. Other teams are constantly getting second, sometimes third opportunities in one possession. That's more like committing turnovers. Cant win games playing so lazy and clueless on your own end.

WaDe03
04-03-2016, 12:26 AM
You guys realize we have about 50 PPG on the bench right? Wade Bosh and TJ will hopefully all be back. Wade Tuesday TJ within the next week and Bosh is unknown.

lavilevi23
04-03-2016, 12:36 AM
We need Bosh back asap

Slug3
04-03-2016, 12:48 AM
You guys realize we have about 50 PPG on the bench right? Wade Bosh and TJ will hopefully all be back. Wade Tuesday TJ within the next week and Bosh is unknown.

You sound like you are waiting for something that will never happen.

WaDe03
04-03-2016, 12:52 AM
You sound like you are waiting for something that will never happen.

You sound like someone that's given up on the season when we had absolutely no chance of winning without Wade tonight.

naps
04-03-2016, 03:17 AM
Bosh is done for the season. He is not coming back. I read somewhere last week or may be 10 days ago he was still on blood thinners. It's literally impossible for him to resume full-contact basketball activities and get ready for a playoff grind from here on. Just not enough time. My gut feeling is he will try to make it back for next season even if the doctors warns him not to, just because he is still not ready to to give up the only thing he has known since he was a kid. If it recurrs next season, I think he will have to call it a career. Basketball is not bigger than life. And I just don't think some of you guys that are so confident he is coming back understand how dangerous and lethal this is. It's not an INJURY, the man can die on the court at any time.

Mr. Baller
04-03-2016, 09:01 AM
I'm pretty sure if I told you guys at the beginning of the season that we didn't have Chris Bosh for the entire 2nd half and the playoffs and we would still make the 2nd round you guys would be thrilled. This team is not playing its best right now, still got 10 days to fix the mistakes. Just relax.

SteBO
04-03-2016, 09:47 AM
I'm pretty sure if I told you guys at the beginning of the season that we didn't have Chris Bosh for the entire 2nd half and the playoffs and we would still make the 2nd round you guys would be thrilled. This team is not playing its best right now, still got 10 days to fix the mistakes. Just relax.
Hard to see this while losing 2 of 3 including a loss to an awful Lakers team, but you're on the money here. We have the right mix and veterans and youth, and the most of the mistakes we're making are fixable.

Dade County
04-03-2016, 11:55 AM
Don't be surprised when Dragic and McRoberts are traded this summer to keep Whiteside and go after KD/LeBron

I think teams like Miami & the Lakers will try to go after them both... especially if they both lose to GS/Curry.

Sale Lbj he can transition to the pg role, & KD does the.bulk of the scoring.

Lbj
Shooter(JRich or TJ)...Wade 6 man
Shooter(?)
KD
Whiteside

Lol

But i think everything is fine... Bosh will come back just when Miami needs him (script plot lol). & HEAT will be in the ECF, facing the Cavs.

I think LBj beats us in 7 games, but we enjoy the ride & move on to Pat trying to get both Lbj & KD on the same team.

Thee End

naps
04-04-2016, 01:43 AM
Bosh's blood clot is scripted? Jesus...

Slug3
04-05-2016, 03:49 PM
I think teams like Miami & the Lakers will try to go after them both... especially if they both lose to GS/Curry.

Sale Lbj he can transition to the pg role, & KD does the.bulk of the scoring.

Lbj
Shooter(JRich or TJ)...Wade 6 man
Shooter(?)
KD
Whiteside

Lol

But i think everything is fine... Bosh will come back just when Miami needs him (script plot lol). & HEAT will be in the ECF, facing the Cavs.

I think LBj beats us in 7 games, but we enjoy the ride & move on to Pat trying to get both Lbj & KD on the same team.

Thee End

I feel at the moment we are way to inconsistent as a team. I think 2nd round is probably the best we do and with a little luck we could make it to the ECF. I can also see us having a few bad games in the first round and have a bad first round exit. Its just too hard to gage where this team is.