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spreadeagle
02-13-2016, 04:59 PM
Smooth move Dolan
TORONTO – Toronto Raptors All-Star guard Kyle Lowry was ready to pack his bags and contact a real estate agent in December of 2013. He thought Toronto was trading him to the New York Knicks.

“That deal was done,” Lowry told USA TODAY Sports about a trade that would’ve sent him to the Knicks, and the Raptors would have received Metta World Peace, Iman Shumpert and a future first-round draft pick.

Imagine Lowry as the Knicks’ point guard, which is exactly what they need.

But the Knicks killed the deal, at the request of Knicks owner James Dolan, according to people familiar with the situation. Dolan was smarting from a deal with then-Denver Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri, who traded Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks for a handful of valuable assets. Dolan was worried Ujiri, now Toronto’s GM, was getting the best of the Knicks again.

It was also a pivotal point in the direction of Ujiri’s Raptors. Two weeks earlier, he had traded Rudy Gay to Sacramento and was ready to trade Lowry to the Knicks. Toronto was on the verge of a rebuild.

Instead, the Raptors kept Lowry, made the playoffs that season, last season and are now in second place in the East.

“At the end of the day, the decision was made for me to be here and it worked out equally, perfectly for both parties,” said Lowry who is in the second year of four-year, $48 million contract.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/raptors/2016/02/13/raptors-kyle-lowry-2013-trade-knicks-deal-done/80339726/?hootPostID=adccceb7717d4f06c00982382bb5014a

Aust
02-13-2016, 05:10 PM
Of course Dolan was involved.

mike_noodles
02-13-2016, 05:17 PM
But the Knicks killed the deal, at the request of Knicks owner James Dolan, according to people familiar with the situation. Dolan was smarting from a deal with then-Denver Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri, who traded Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks for a handful of valuable assets. Dolan was worried Ujiri, now Toronto’s GM, was getting the best of the Knicks again.

Sounds like BS. If he was that butthurt over the Carmelo deal, why would he have allowed a better draft pick to be traded to Ujiri for a lesser player just six months earlier? Unless he was actually "smarting" over the Bargnani trade.

aman_13
02-13-2016, 05:30 PM
It was the Bargs trade.

HeartOfStarks
02-13-2016, 05:36 PM
While obviously I'd love to have Lowry, had this happened we probably wouldn't have KP right now. So I'm happy with how that worked out anyway.

IndyRealist
02-13-2016, 05:37 PM
If you can't evaluate whether you're being taken advantage of in a deal, should you really be making decisions?

HeartOfStarks
02-13-2016, 05:45 PM
If you can't evaluate whether you're being taken advantage of in a deal, should you really be making decisions?

Well Dolan should never be making any decisions Bball-wise, he's proven himself to be absolutely horrid at it. It's reason #1 for our perpetual stink over the past decade and a half.

Hopefully he sells the team one day and never returns, that would be freakin glorious but also possibly a miracle, cause I don't see him doing it anytime soon. He really is a terrible, terrible owner for the Knicks though which is a secret to no one.

FriedTofuz
02-13-2016, 06:04 PM
At least it worked out for the knicks too, Krisptaps Porzingis is a future MVP candidate, I can see that guy being better than dirk and the keys will be given to him once the knicks trade Anthony.

HouRealCoach
02-13-2016, 06:29 PM
Thank you, no need to keep trading first rounders

GiantsSwaGG
02-13-2016, 06:47 PM
Dolan finally got it right lol not trading for Lowry got us KP

Jets012
02-13-2016, 07:54 PM
Let's cool it a little bit, Kristaps is really really good for a rookie and all, but there's no guarantee at all that he every produces as well as Kyle Lowry as this year.

WOwolfOL
02-13-2016, 08:09 PM
Dirk is KP's floor

bucketss
02-13-2016, 08:17 PM
Dirk is KP's floor

:rolleyes::crazy:

Sadds The Gr8
02-13-2016, 08:23 PM
lol at assuming KP will be better than Dirk. Dirk is like top 20 all-time...

HouRealCoach
02-13-2016, 08:33 PM
Let's cool it a little bit, Kristaps is really really good for a rookie and all, but there's no guarantee at all that he every produces as well as Kyle Lowry as this year.

There's also no guarantee that Kyle Lowry's career wouldn't take a fall in a Knicks jersey like a bunch of others in the last 15 years

xxplayerxx23
02-13-2016, 08:39 PM
Let's cool it a little bit, Kristaps is really really good for a rookie and all, but there's no guarantee at all that he every produces as well as Kyle Lowry as this year.


End of the day I'll take a 20 year old stud rookie over Kyle Lowry when Kyle Lowry wouldn't of made this team anything more then a 2nd round Ko anyway

jimm120
02-13-2016, 09:38 PM
Sounds like BS. If he was that butthurt over the Carmelo deal, why would he have allowed a better draft pick to be traded to Ujiri for a lesser player just six months earlier? Unless he was actually "smarting" over the Bargnani trade.

As a knick fan, I remember quite clearly.

It wasn't "butthurt" over the Melo deal. Everyone was fine with that (though the ideal thing was getting Melo in the offseason after the lockout and thus saving the assets to bring in Paul or something).

Dolan and the Knicks were "butthurt" over the Bargnani deal. At the time, it looked bad (Novak and 2016 1st for Bargs). By this time, it was already looking HORRIBLE. Bargs trade was that bad. They were almost going to have to GIVE a 1st rounder to get rid of him...and somehow got a 1st rounder AND managed to make it unprotected.

Dolan wanted nothing with that.

zn23
02-13-2016, 11:29 PM
They wouldn't have gotten Porzingis though...

I'd rather have Prozingis for the next 10+ years than have Lowry for 3-4 years.

KnicksorBust
02-14-2016, 07:37 PM
Dirk is KP's floor

:laugh:

aman_13
02-14-2016, 07:39 PM
^lol

Scoots
02-15-2016, 12:24 AM
KP is really awesome, the literal definition of the word. BUT he's young, and he's tall ... health, development, and league adjustments are going to be an interesting thing to watch with him.

Lowry took a LONG time to get very good ... it's a shame he isn't appreciated now that he's finally made it.

dalton749
02-15-2016, 03:07 AM
It's good that they got porzingis, but they would probably have a really good team right now if the deal went down. Lowry and Melo is a really good 1-2, they could have enticed a top free agent for sure, at the very least Carroll would end up there last year.

More-Than-Most
02-15-2016, 04:13 AM
lol at assuming KP will be better than Dirk. Dirk is like top 20 all-time...

Its not worth man lol.

nycericanguy
02-15-2016, 10:04 AM
It's good that they got porzingis, but they would probably have a really good team right now if the deal went down. Lowry and Melo is a really good 1-2, they could have enticed a top free agent for sure, at the very least Carroll would end up there last year.

maybe they win 45-50 games and make a nice run, but they werent going to win anything of significance and they'd be locked into that aging roster now with no KP and no picks in 2016 or 2018.

Getting a true franchise player is the hardest thing to do in the NBA, and franchise players are what win titles.

KP has a legit chance to be that, his rookie year for a 19/20 year old has been great, better than KG & Dirk and on par with AD. And his range for a guy his size is something never before seen. He's ahead of the curve.

ghettosean
02-15-2016, 10:28 AM
It was the Bargs trade.

This