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kdspurman
02-08-2016, 03:49 PM
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kdspurman
02-08-2016, 03:49 PM
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kdspurman
02-08-2016, 03:49 PM
Wednesday February 10th, 2016






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kdspurman
02-08-2016, 03:50 PM
Thursday February 11th 2016



Wizards @ Bucks
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Pelicans @ Thunder
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Scoots
02-08-2016, 04:12 PM
Looks like several potentially good games and several potential blowouts.

CHANGO
02-08-2016, 09:41 PM
I just can't stand Hawks home games, I hate that organ to death. Annoying as ****.

jerellh528
02-08-2016, 10:18 PM
Why won't Kobe just let the tank roll

zn23
02-08-2016, 10:46 PM
Whatever great years Pau has left, he's wasting them away playing with the Bulls. I feel like a contender can pick up Pau next season and make a nice run. He's playing at a high level in his 15th season and hasn't shown signs of decline.

Vee-Rex
02-09-2016, 12:12 AM
I just can't stand Hawks home games, I hate that organ to death. Annoying as ****.

Ahahaha for some reason I love it. And I like the (insert player) for threeeeeeeeeeeee soundbite the Hawks play when someone hits it from 3.

Aust
02-09-2016, 12:34 AM
Julius Randle, 36 rebounds in his last two games.

Another good game like the Spurs game. Close and an L.

kdspurman
02-09-2016, 09:31 AM
Ahahaha for some reason I love it. And I like the (insert player) for threeeeeeeeeeeee soundbite the Hawks play when someone hits it from 3.

Yea, dude hits the high notes with those lol

The organ is cool, kinda has that stadium feel to it. But every now and again they should change it up. The Knicks do the organ thing too, but they play normal music occasionally too.

Scoots
02-09-2016, 12:16 PM
Spurs/Heat the highlight of today's games, followed by Warriors/Rockets.

All of these teams will be looking to go into the all-star break with a win.

tredigs
02-09-2016, 12:52 PM
Why won't Kobe just let the tank roll

He took 25 shots with 0 assists and couldn't quite seem to match his teams overall 31% FG% for the night. I'd say he's doing his part my man.

lol, please
02-09-2016, 04:45 PM
Just when we thought it wasn't possible...

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?904898-WCF-Rivals-Klay-vs-Harden-II!-Rockets-(27-26)-Warriors-(46-4)

NEW RECORDS OF HYPE ARE SET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tredigs
02-09-2016, 06:56 PM
Wow. Marc Gasol's foot is broken. Not that they were going to actually do anything this season, but that puts the hammer on this teams legacy as a whole. The ultimate playoff "test team". Like a UFC litmus test fighter you have to go through to see if you're legit or not.

kdspurman
02-09-2016, 07:08 PM
Wow. Marc Gasol's foot is broken. Not that they were going to actually do anything this season, but that puts the hammer on this teams legacy as a whole. The ultimate playoff "test team". Like a UFC litmus test fighter you have to go through to see if you're legit or not.

Tough break for them. Curious to see if they can stay in the PO picture.. maybe another date with you guys( but in the first round but)is in the cards

tredigs
02-09-2016, 08:02 PM
Tough break for them. Curious to see if they can stay in the PO picture.. maybe another date with you guys( but in the first round but)is in the cards

It's definitely debatable to me if they'll make it. In a normal year in the WC this decade, no chance. I think they will struggle to stay above .500 to be honest.

Vinny642
02-09-2016, 09:37 PM
LMAO apparently MSG was booing Russell... smh why

kdspurman
02-09-2016, 10:21 PM
It's definitely debatable to me if they'll make it. In a normal year in the WC this decade, no chance. I think they will struggle to stay above .500 to be honest.

Yea. Just with the bottom half struggling , I feel like who knows, anything can happen.

It'll be tough though. Portland /.Utah could both get in though now. for me, with Memphis being 8 games over .500 , and the 7-9 teams flirting with. 500, they might be able to grind out enough wins to stay in the picture

kdspurman
02-09-2016, 11:10 PM
Whiteside showing his immaturity again... what a tool

jason
02-09-2016, 11:55 PM
Warriors started this game crazy fast

tredigs
02-10-2016, 12:10 AM
Isn't it interesting that you can see that Curry is just using this quarter to essentially make fun of James Harden and his comments last year? He normally does not embarrass his opponents like this so early.

jason
02-10-2016, 12:13 AM
Curry caught fire early in this game.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 12:18 AM
It's funny hearing Barry say Curry's quarter "reminds him of when Reggie would get going".

Curry just had a better quarter than Reggie's best in his entire NBA career. 6 threes. Miller's most in his NBA career was 8 in a game. Nobody in history has ever been this good on offense. Not Jordan or Wilt. Nobody.

Vee-Rex
02-10-2016, 12:49 AM
It's funny hearing Barry say Curry's quarter "reminds him of when Reggie would get going".

Curry just had a better quarter than Reggie's best in his entire NBA career. 6 threes. Miller's most in his NBA career was 8 in a game. Nobody in history has ever been this good on offense. Not Jordan or Wilt. Nobody.

Yeah, idk about that. You'd have a little more weight if you said scoring, but total offense? Jordan has had more efficient seasons, and was a far better at 2pt fgs, while being an extremely gifted passer.

I say this having watched many of GS's games, and watching Curry light the rockets up right now.

The ONLY thing in Curry's corner is the fact that his mpg is less, but who knows, Curry might be less efficient if he was putting in 40mpg.

Curry's numbers are slowly dropping as well. We're witnessing legendary basketball from him, but by seasons end his numbers may look a little more human.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 01:03 AM
Yeah, idk about that. You'd have a little more weight if you said scoring, but total offense? Jordan has had more efficient seasons, and was a far better at 2pt fgs, while being an extremely gifted passer.

I say this having watched many of GS's games, and watching Curry light the rockets up right now.

The ONLY thing in Curry's corner is the fact that his mpg is less, but who knows, Curry might be less efficient if he was putting in 40mpg.

Curry's numbers are slowly dropping as well. We're witnessing legendary basketball from him, but by seasons end his numbers may look a little more human.
Yeah, actually no. Jordan never had a season close to this efficient as a scorer, and also never even had a season close to as efficient as Curry on 2pt field goals (Curry's the guard/wing paint scorer in the NBA and scores >57% inside the arc; a lower volume of course, but better than Jordan's best ever). He's also a better passer than MJ and creates MUCH more defensive pressure on the perimeter that opens up easy/open looks for his teammates. As for the 40 mpg comment, all I can say is that I HIGHLY doubt it would negatively effect him. He rarely gets to play them obviously, but he's not only the highest PPP 4th quarter player, but has a PER >40 in the 4th quarter right now. It's close games when he's actually called upon/tries that he absolutely crushes the most right now.

Nothing is slowly dropping. People said that exact comment a month and a half ago. Then he went on a 3 week tear where he averaged 34/6/7 on 55/50/95 with a PER over 35. He put up 51 on an 87% TS% 2 games ago (not included in those #'s). He has 26 on a 95% TS% at the half tonight.

Lol, wake up dude.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 01:30 AM
No player other than Curry has scored from the field in 13 minutes? That's ridiculous, they're playing like **** right now. Curry's D is miserable right now also.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 01:31 AM
Finally, Bogut bucket.

goingfor28
02-10-2016, 01:35 AM
Go Rockets!

Get hype!


There's never been this much hype!

I am glad to see its not a blowout. Most GS games on TV are a snooze fest bc it's over by halftime.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 01:39 AM
Disappointed in their play, but not gonna lie I'm pretty excited to see a real 4th Q.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 01:41 AM
More bad Curry D tonight. A reach like that on Harden was his 3rd year ****.

Edit: At least he's good at making up for his mistakes.

Vee-Rex
02-10-2016, 01:55 AM
Yeah, actually no. Jordan never had a season close to this efficient as a scorer, and also never even had a season close to as efficient as Curry on 2pt field goals (Curry's the guard/wing paint scorer in the NBA and scores >57% inside the arc; a lower volume of course, but better than Jordan's best ever). He's also a better passer than MJ and creates MUCH more defensive pressure on the perimeter that opens up easy/open looks for his teammates. As for the 40 mpg comment, all I can say is that I HIGHLY doubt it would negatively effect him. He rarely gets to play them obviously, but he's not only the highest PPP 4th quarter player, but has a PER >40 in the 4th quarter right now. It's close games when he's actually called upon/tries that he absolutely crushes the most right now.

Nothing is slowly dropping. People said that exact comment a month and a half ago. Then he went on a 3 week tear where he averaged 34/6/7 on 55/50/95 with a PER over 35. He put up 51 on an 87% TS% 2 games ago (not included in those #'s). He has 26 on a 95% TS% at the half tonight.

Lol, wake up dude.

Jordan has had close seasons, it's not as big of a gap as you're making it out to be. Curry (in the last 20'ish games) is averaging just under 49% FG per game, which is a bit of a drop, and that's factoring in that amazing 3 week tear you just mentioned. By the end of the season, he could be around Jordan's best at 2pt FG% (he's at 57% now, Jordan's was 55%, how is this not close??), or maybe even worse.

In terms of efficiency, they're not as far apart as you're making them out to be, and we still have 30 games to go.

Personally, I feel that TS% is a bit of a flawed stat when measuring pure efficiency as the formula places wayyyy too much emphasis on certain things (gives way too much credit to FTs, among other things).

http://badmanbureau.com/2014/03/05/the-truth-about-true-shooting-percentage/

Curry's game happens to reflect perfectly for an insanely high TS%, which doesn't necessarily mean he's the most efficient player ever, just that it's tailored to fit the formula of TS%.

Players like Jordan have never led the league in TS%, whereas guys like Nene and Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry and Mutombo have. Given their smaller, more specific spheres of impact on the game, I don't feel it's appropriate to assume they're more efficient than Curry or MJ (Chandler has had multiple seasons with higher TS% than Curry).

There's currently no perfect way to measure true efficiency but I find it hard to believe that overall, Curry's sooooo efficient that he ***** on Jordan.

I think it's pretty close.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:00 AM
Respect to Harden for showing up after that miserable 1st Q.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:06 AM
@Vee-Rex, I'm busy but it was your comments of Jordan was "FAR BETTER at 2pt field goals" etc that is what was way off. You said a guy who is averaging 31/5/7 on 51/48/94 over the past month of games (going up tonight) is "slowing down". Consider that comment for a minute.

Captain Moroni
02-10-2016, 02:19 AM
This team GSW is so much fun to watch. Just incredible

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:22 AM
I lost a lot of money on Barnes making that last 3 lmao. Smh.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:24 AM
Definitely an entertaining game overall. Every game other than the San Antonio beatdown were solid tonight.

c.c.
02-10-2016, 02:24 AM
My Rockets stink so bad, I'm still hoping for the odor to go away 😭

Vee-Rex
02-10-2016, 02:25 AM
@Vee-Rex, I'm busy but it was your comments of Jordan was "FAR BETTER at 2pt field goals" etc that is what was way off. You said a guy who is averaging 31/5/7 on 51/48/94 over the past month of games (going up tonight) is "slowing down". Consider that comment for a minute.

Curry's having the better season in 2pt efficiency (just barely) than Jordan's best, while being fresh on 32mpg. Just this one season of his. With 30 games left.

And yeah, his numbers have gone down compared to the beginning of the season.

I believe FG% is a more fair (though not perfect) stat to measure efficiency than TS% because of how flawed TS% is. FG% in the very least is raw enough to have more meaning. I'd be happy to go into why I feel this way.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:32 AM
Curry's having the better season in 2pt efficiency (just barely) than Jordan's best, while being fresh on 32mpg. Just this one season of his. With 30 games left.

And yeah, his numbers have gone down compared to the beginning of the season.

I believe FG% is a more fair (though not perfect) stat to measure efficiency than TS% because of how flawed TS% is. FG% in the very least is raw enough to have more meaning. I'd be happy to go into why I feel this way.

PPP is better than both, but no, there's no explanation you can give to me that will dissuade the fact that one shot is taken from ~25 feet while the other can be a layup, and the longer shot is worth another point. Beyond that, the gravity he draws defensively due to stretching his opponents creates more space for his teammates than an attacking wing (even as good as MJ) is able to create. It's a major part of the reason why the rest of the team as a whole is shooting a combined 40% from three. They get clean looks.

The rub on his elite 3pt shooting is that he's also the best ball handler in the game and will blow by you if you over commit. And again, is also top-tier elite at the rim. There's no answer for him defensively.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:42 AM
^Other than just miss his shots. That 2nd half was his most off shooting I've seen this season. Almost air-balled that dead open 3 in the 4th.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 02:53 AM
Reminds me of Showtime: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/video/warriors-fast-break-061135046.html

Gander13SM
02-10-2016, 05:24 AM
Houston were throwing some playoff type adjustments at them tonight

Scoots
02-10-2016, 11:42 AM
Yet another thread turns into a Jordan vs thread :rolleyes:

kdspurman
02-10-2016, 12:26 PM
Wow, didn't realize Utah has won 7 straight. Houston is now in 8th with Portland on their tails

edit: and houston plays in portland tonight.

Vee-Rex
02-10-2016, 12:45 PM
PPP is better than both, but no, there's no explanation you can give to me that will dissuade the fact that one shot is taken from ~25 feet while the other can be a layup, and the longer shot is worth another point. Beyond that, the gravity he draws defensively due to stretching his opponents creates more space for his teammates than an attacking wing (even as good as MJ) is able to create. It's a major part of the reason why the rest of the team as a whole is shooting a combined 40% from three. They get clean looks.

The rub on his elite 3pt shooting is that he's also the best ball handler in the game and will blow by you if you over commit. And again, is also top-tier elite at the rim. There's no answer for him defensively.

That's cool, as I understand the desire to give 3-point shots more weight.

I just think the fact that they're worth 3 points instead of 2 is enough weight as is. PPG is often a stat (along with others) used to measure a player's offensive output, and I imagine if Curry shot less 3's, he'd probably average less PPG (like last year). Of course, he'd be a bit more efficient as a result.

If Curry was averaging 25ppg shooting the percentages he's shooting now, people would be less awed by his offensive prowess. So in effect, he's tremendously benefiting from shooting MORE 3's (averaging 30ppg) already, so why should prioritize a stat such as TS% that is not only flawed, but giving even MORE credit to shooting 3's than what is already naturally occurring?

The detriment to firing up tons of 3's is efficiency, and you're effectively eliminating that detriment by weighing 3's even more, while simultaneously adding more benefit to doing it because it's worth an extra point.

It works the same with free throws being weighted at 0.44 each.

With FG%, Jordan has has multiple more efficient seasons than Curry's best, and if he had jacked up more 3's (at least during the years he shot well from deep), he'd have lower efficiency but more PPG.

While I concede that in terms of TS% Curry is more efficient ( and currently just barely more efficient in 2pt%), in the end, especially accounting for MPG (and lets not get into playoff numbers) I think there's far too many variables used to make the blanket statement: "Nobody in history has ever been this good on offense"

Vee-Rex
02-10-2016, 12:54 PM
By the way, the above is my opinion - sorry I didn't phrase it that way.

Tre has a solid case for his argument.

Scoots
02-10-2016, 02:03 PM
Wow, didn't realize Utah has won 7 straight. Houston is now in 8th with Portland on their tails

edit: and houston plays in portland tonight.

I was looking at that too.

The Warriors have 2 games left against the Grizzlies, Jazz, and Mavs, and 3 against the Blazers ... it looks like the battle for the bottom half of that bracket will have a lot of Warriors possible semi-coasting games in it while those teams fight for the playoff lives. Should be an interesting end to the season.

I don't know that the Spurs or Warriors really "show up" for any of their remaining games before the playoffs. I love that there are 4 teams close together ... and with Gasol going down Memphis could easily join that group.

That said, that gap from the top of the bracket to the bottom means the first round of the playoffs may not be very exciting.

kdspurman
02-10-2016, 08:26 PM
Kawhi has that MJ/Kobe spin fade away down man.

YankeeFan25
02-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Funny how the possible Kobe and LeBron trade talk that went down in 2007 comes out now the day the 2 teams play each other.

kdspurman
02-10-2016, 08:36 PM
Very early quadruple double watch for Rondo after the 1st lol

3 steals
4 points
4 assists
4 rebounds

jerellh528
02-10-2016, 09:23 PM
Funny how the possible Kobe and LeBron trade talk that went down in 2007 comes out now the day the 2 teams play each other.

Espn.

More-Than-Most
02-10-2016, 09:34 PM
sigh sixers gonna win : (

Oka has 18 after 2

jerellh528
02-10-2016, 09:38 PM
sigh sixers gonna win : (

Oka has 18 after 2

At the rate the 6ers have been playing, I wouldn't be surprised if you guys ended 3rd or 4th worst. Ish has been a difference maker, even though there are still losses, the games are far more competative.

More-Than-Most
02-10-2016, 09:48 PM
At the rate the 6ers have been playing, I wouldn't be surprised if you guys ended 3rd or 4th worst. Ish has been a difference maker, even though there are still losses, the games are far more competative.

Yup it makes me both happy and sad because they would have destroyed OKA not having help like ish around him... Now we will likely be 3rd or 4th... I dont mind losing out on simmons but it will hurt losing out on a top 2 pick

kdspurman
02-10-2016, 10:20 PM
Skiles drew up a helluva play

xbrackattackx
02-10-2016, 10:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Imf187/status/697609226839953412


What happen?

kdspurman
02-10-2016, 10:56 PM
Kawhi and LMA been doing work lately. Big game winner for Kawhi. Mills was also terrific

Magic played great.

CHANGO
02-10-2016, 11:18 PM
I love when analysts on NBAtv and other networks are reviewing a Lakers game and say something like "and Kobe was ON-FIRE, Kobe lately have been playing great"... I'm excited waiting to see the final boxscore expecting 40pts on 20 shots for Kobe and when I see it, Kobe with 19pts on 25 fricking shots. It's pathetic watching the experts say nonsense like that, that's just blatantly feeding the masses with ********.

But Kobe, I need you tonight, go OFF on those last 2 minutes. :D

tredigs
02-10-2016, 11:30 PM
That's cool, as I understand the desire to give 3-point shots more weight.

I just think the fact that they're worth 3 points instead of 2 is enough weight as is. PPG is often a stat (along with others) used to measure a player's offensive output, and I imagine if Curry shot less 3's, he'd probably average less PPG (like last year). Of course, he'd be a bit more efficient as a result.

If Curry was averaging 25ppg shooting the percentages he's shooting now, people would be less awed by his offensive prowess. So in effect, he's tremendously benefiting from shooting MORE 3's (averaging 30ppg) already, so why should prioritize a stat such as TS% that is not only flawed, but giving even MORE credit to shooting 3's than what is already naturally occurring?

The detriment to firing up tons of 3's is efficiency, and you're effectively eliminating that detriment by weighing 3's even more, while simultaneously adding more benefit to doing it because it's worth an extra point.

It works the same with free throws being weighted at 0.44 each.

With FG%, Jordan has has multiple more efficient seasons than Curry's best, and if he had jacked up more 3's (at least during the years he shot well from deep), he'd have lower efficiency but more PPG.

While I concede that in terms of TS% Curry is more efficient ( and currently just barely more efficient in 2pt%), in the end, especially accounting for MPG (and lets not get into playoff numbers) I think there's far too many variables used to make the blanket statement: "Nobody in history has ever been this good on offense"

Here. A very simple way to look at it that I think will help you understand why FG% is a poor stat to gauge scoring prowess; The goal of an offense is to score the most amount of points on the fewest amount of possessions (do you agree?). Curry is using less offensive possessions to score his 30 PPG than Jordan ever did, and as a result it offers more opportunities for his teammates to also score. It's really that simple. Like I mentioned earlier, PPP (points per possession) is better than both. But TS% is certainly far more relevant than FG%.

tredigs
02-10-2016, 11:33 PM
Curry's accuracy with the lefty behind the back passes is absurd.

zn23
02-11-2016, 12:28 AM
The Bulls are in for one hell of a decline next season, when they lose Pau. They'll also lose Rose, which at this point isn't a big deal, but they're leaving Jimmy Butler with nothing to work with. They are Leaving Butler by himself with Portis and Taj Gibson.

5ass
02-11-2016, 12:47 AM
Skiles drew up a helluva play

Yeah that was good, and he's generally pretty good drawing up plays after TO, but we're so young we have trouble inbounding the ball sometimes. Fournier was great tonight though, obviously Kawhi is better but he put up a good fight. I like how the Magic played tonight. Kawhi made a good shot over Gordon at the end of the game and some key defensive plays. Still Gordon played great defense on the possessions he guarded him earlier in the game, even played great defense on Duncan and Draw for multiple possessions. I love Gordon, and I hope he follows in Leonard's footsteps and becomes a great two way player.

CHANGO
02-11-2016, 12:48 AM
The Bulls are in for one hell of a decline next season, when they lose Pau. They'll also lose Rose, which at this point isn't a big deal, but they're leaving Jimmy Butler with nothing to work with. They are Leaving Butler by himself with Portis and Taj Gibson.

They are on a losing streak without Butler, he is definitely the best or most important player on that roster.

It just shows the importance of Butler and also shows that he's the 2nd best SG on the league behind Harden. He's very underrated here.

Aust
02-11-2016, 01:08 AM
Lebron stole D'Angelo Russel's ability to have kids. That's just cruel.

zn23
02-11-2016, 01:15 AM
You have to wonder if Daryl Morey's position is going to be in jeopardy. The Rockets are a mess. Ty Lawson was a flop. They fired McHale after 11 games, and they aren't doing much better without him. Defensively they've gotten way worse, which is surprising considering they have pretty much the same roster as last season and they were top 6 in defensive efficiency last year.

Saddletramp
02-11-2016, 03:44 AM
You have to wonder if Daryl Morey's position is going to be in jeopardy. The Rockets are a mess. Ty Lawson was a flop. They fired McHale after 11 games, and they aren't doing much better without him. Defensively they've gotten way worse, which is surprising considering they have pretty much the same roster as last season and they were top 6 in defensive efficiency last year.

I have no idea what's going on but it's embarrassing to watch.

jerellh528
02-11-2016, 04:51 AM
Crazy how everyone was praising him for his stat ball approach

Scoots
02-11-2016, 11:44 AM
Funny how the possible Kobe and LeBron trade talk that went down in 2007 comes out now the day the 2 teams play each other.

Not so much funny, but on purpose. They said it was written in 2007 but they held back to not burn a source. This is the best time to release the story to hype the game.

Vee-Rex
02-11-2016, 01:47 PM
Really enjoyed watching the Lakers/Cavs last night. Hopefully it's not the last time we see Bron and Kobe play each other (Cavs/Lakers play again in March).

Cool stat:

Kyrie Irving last 8 games:

27/6/3 on 55%FG