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beasted86
12-13-2015, 03:49 PM
12/13 - 12/19 Schedule:
NOTE: ALL TIMES EASTERN


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Miami HEAT vs. Memphis Grizzlies
Sunday, Dec 13, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
6:00pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun


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Miami HEAT @ Atlanta Hawks
Monday, Dec 14, 2015
Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA
8:00pmET
Season Series: 0-1
TV: Fox Sports Sun


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Miami HEAT @ Brooklyn Nets
Wednesday, Dec 16, 2015
Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
7:30pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun, ESPN


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Miami HEAT Vs. Toronto Raptors
Friday, Dec 18, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
8:00pmET
Season Series: 1-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 04:13 PM
0-4

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 04:43 PM
0-4

haha damn man have a little bit of faith ;)
we had a HORRIBLE week but we can stil be a decent team. the game at brooklyn should atleast be a guaranteed win and perhaps we can win in toronto aswell

beasted86
12-13-2015, 04:50 PM
I see .500 basketball for the next 2 weeks looking ahead at our schedule.

Although there are multiple winnable games, the HEAT will be playing 8 games in 14 days and have 2 sets of back to backs starting tonight.

justinnum1
12-13-2015, 04:58 PM
I see .500 basketball for the next 2 weeks looking ahead at our schedule.

Although there are multiple winnable games, the HEAT will be playing 8 games in 14 days and have 2 sets of back to backs starting tonight.

atl looks like a sure loss so we better win tonight or we can be under .500 by next week.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 05:36 PM
haha damn man have a little bit of faith ;)
we had a HORRIBLE week but we can stil be a decent team. the game at brooklyn should atleast be a guaranteed win and perhaps we can win in toronto aswell

Sorry, if I'm wrong I'll just say I'm dyslexic and meant 4-0 lol.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 07:30 PM
Awesome Wade looks out of it so far and Winslow is still shooting 3s.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 07:37 PM
Playing with no effort. Who the **** do we think we are.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 07:41 PM
This is what we brought Green here for.

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 07:53 PM
wade is looking completely lost on defense. it pains me to say this but its seriously getting as bad as hardens defense

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 07:55 PM
look at that. wade wtf are you doing

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 08:00 PM
We look horrible

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:03 PM
damn spo actually did a good thing by pulling out wade for this last defensive possesion

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 08:03 PM
Dragic GTFO trade this bastard

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 08:05 PM
Wades a *****. No effort at all. I guess this is what our team will look like on back to backs.

Slug3
12-13-2015, 08:09 PM
Glad I'm not watching the game. Lol

hotdalton18
12-13-2015, 08:21 PM
Dragic and Wade *** first half

Dragic has went right back to the garbage little ***** that he is

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:23 PM
there goes wade again. getting crossed easily by courtney lee

Slug3
12-13-2015, 08:28 PM
Dragic needs to be traded already. Possibly for Chalmers.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 08:28 PM
Thank god. I was worried Wade might actually come out and play good in the second half. Good thing I was wrong.

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:33 PM
Thank god. I was worried Wade might actually come out and play good in the second half. Good thing I was wrong.

gotta keep that 0-4 prediction intact right :P

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:34 PM
jesus fcking christ look at that shot. what kind of offense is this? do we have ANY gameplan at all? or do we just win by green jacking up contested threes?

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 08:39 PM
Can't wait to trade Dragic.

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:40 PM
poor papa johns, theyre not gonna sell a lot of pizza's like this. People aint buying them when theyre expansive

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:41 PM
tbh, i would love a pizza so much right now

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 08:44 PM
Imagine if it was Devin Booker we were kicking it out too instead of Winslow.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 08:47 PM
They're shooting like 60% from 3.

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 08:50 PM
who the fck is jamicheal green?

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 08:54 PM
who the fck is jamicheal green?

Lmao I was thinking the same

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 08:58 PM
Get Winslow out the game damn.

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 09:00 PM
I think we need a trade fast

HandsOnTheWheel
12-13-2015, 09:04 PM
poor papa johns, theyre not gonna sell a lot of pizza's like this. People aint buying them when theyre expansive

lmao.

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 09:10 PM
lol dragic, even i wouldve made that easy layup

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 09:13 PM
lol thanks for losing us the game wade

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 09:15 PM
Wade retire now

HandsOnTheWheel
12-13-2015, 09:18 PM
Atta boy!!

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 09:18 PM
holy **** i just made the biggest fool of myself all time

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 09:19 PM
Nvm Wade im sorry

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 09:22 PM
unbelievable lol. i'm absolutely stunned

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 09:23 PM
Wade is a god. Add another game winner to the resume. Even when he's playing bad if you give him a shot to win the game hell more than likely come through.

SteBO
12-13-2015, 09:23 PM
Whoa....how did we pull this game out? Missed the 4th quarter.

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 09:24 PM
Nvm Wade im sorry

Hahahaha

archdevil84
12-13-2015, 09:26 PM
wade has been clutch for us the whole year ofcourse. coming through again in the final moments

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 09:28 PM
This is a huge win for us

Slug3
12-13-2015, 09:28 PM
Whoa....how did we pull this game out? Missed the 4th quarter.

Yeah I stopped watching as well. Lol

hotdalton18
12-13-2015, 09:32 PM
Awesome , we beat a team is gets blown out all the time with a game winner

Trade Dragic now

Mr. Baller
12-13-2015, 09:33 PM
Whoa....how did we pull this game out? Missed the 4th quarter.

We benched Hassan

WaDe03
12-13-2015, 09:36 PM
Awesome , we beat a team is gets blown out all the time with a game winner

Trade Dragic now

A trade needs to be made obviously but anyway you look at it this is a really good win. Nobody played that good except Bosh and Jeff Green and Matt Barnes were playing out of their ***** and we got the W.

lavilevi23
12-13-2015, 11:14 PM
We do need floor spacers desperately.

justinnum1
12-13-2015, 11:59 PM
still way to much iso ball. dragic is trash. got lucky that memphis sucks also.

WaDe03
12-14-2015, 01:02 AM
still way to much iso ball. dragic is trash. got lucky that memphis sucks also.

We're 27th in the league in total ISO plays. We don't ISO near as much as other teams.

WaDe03
12-14-2015, 01:08 AM
Just watched the final play of the game again. They said Wade insisted on guarding Conley and he locked him up. Literally cut him off on every move he made which lead to a TO. Great defense.

justinnum1
12-14-2015, 10:28 AM
We're 27th in the league in total ISO plays. We don't ISO near as much as other teams.

source?

Mr. Baller
12-14-2015, 01:35 PM
source?

Ethan skolnik and Matt Moore of CBS

hotdalton18
12-14-2015, 04:55 PM
Whoa....how did we pull this game out? Missed the 4th quarter.

We benched Hassan


Yeah that's the reason

Because that's been working so good

SteBO
12-14-2015, 06:19 PM
Yeah that's the reason

Because that's been working so good
Look man, I like Hassan as much as the next guy, but if last night doesn't prove that Hassan isn't part of the our plans in late game situations, then I don't know what will. I watched the replay. The moment we went small, we started playing better defensively and started getting better looks offensively and this is against a team that actually plays conventionally.

SteBO
12-14-2015, 09:39 PM
Alright show of hands, who else Al Horford was gonna nail that shot at the buzzer....

SportsFanatic10
12-14-2015, 09:45 PM
Turnovers are really getting annoying with this team....especially Winslow's, I know he's a rookie but his turnovers are just terrible.

hotdalton18
12-14-2015, 10:21 PM
Yeah that's the reason

Because that's been working so good
Look man, I like Hassan as much as the next guy, but if last night doesn't prove that Hassan isn't part of the our plans in late game situations, then I don't know what will. I watched the replay. The moment we went small, we started playing better defensively and started getting better looks offensively and this is against a team that actually plays conventionally.


Look man

We got blown out the few games before that with the same strategy

One game and now it's the right choice

1-3 doesn't make that a good move lol

hotdalton18
12-14-2015, 10:22 PM
Teams playing well right now

AllBall
12-14-2015, 10:23 PM
One of the best halves I've seen this year from the Heat. They're playing with quick feet, hand movement, defense...keeping things moving and frantic for the Hawks.

AllBall
12-14-2015, 10:30 PM
Evidence that the NBA has makeup calls:

Dragic is standing in front of Horford, Horford swings elbow and knocks tooth out of Dragic's mouth, Dragic gets a foul call even though the injury caused him to get benched.

Next possession, the refs call a 3 sec defense violation on Horford with an automatic Tech.

:facepalm:

SportsFanatic10
12-14-2015, 10:40 PM
Every time Winslow drives it's a charge, travel, bad pass, or he loses the handle on the ball. It's been that way all season so far, soo frustrating.

AllBall
12-14-2015, 11:09 PM
So it seems the Hawk's game plan is to literally punch people in the mouth, lol

WTF was up with that uppercut on Bosh by Teauge?

Mr. Baller
12-14-2015, 11:21 PM
very nice team win

AllBall
12-14-2015, 11:22 PM
lol @ Let's Go Heat chants in Atlanta

Game OVER. On to the next one!

SteBO
12-14-2015, 11:24 PM
Probably our best win to date...and on a night where Wade wasn't just wasn't there. This style of play is our best bet to win consistently.

justinnum1
12-15-2015, 12:56 AM
we beat the tough teams and lose to the easy ones. LMFAO

WaDe03
12-15-2015, 02:06 AM
Good game tonight but everyone in my opinion. Wades shots weren't falling but he rebounded and assisted good with some big assists in the 4th. Udrih was awesome tonight. Whiteside played well. Dragic was awesome and Bosh needs to consistently play like this. Dent was awesome. Green was what we brought him here for. If the team can continue this play from now on once Wade gets back to himself probably next game well be a force. One thing that needs to change is that the last 3 games Wade has shot 1 free throw and it was a technical tonight. It's been both a lack of attacking the rim which he finishes most of the time and a lack of calls which pisses me off.

Dade County
12-15-2015, 03:08 AM
we beat the tough teams and lose to the easy ones. LMFAO


Yeah you notice that too...

I wonder why that is.

beasted86
12-15-2015, 08:09 PM
Look man

We got blown out the few games before that with the same strategy

One game and now it's the right choice

1-3 doesn't make that a good move lol

Took control of last night's game with Whiteside on the bench most of the 3rd and all of the fourth.

Like I've said repeatedly, unless he improves his free throw shooting he will stay on the bench late in games. Regardless of what he does defensively he's a liability.

He's 1% worse of a shooter from FT than he was last year (50 vs 49) so far this season. So you can stop preaching that he has improved now.

hotdalton18
12-15-2015, 11:23 PM
Look man

We got blown out the few games before that with the same strategy

One game and now it's the right choice

1-3 doesn't make that a good move lol

Took control of last night's game with Whiteside on the bench most of the 3rd and all of the fourth.

Like I've said repeatedly, unless he improves his free throw shooting he will stay on the bench late in games. Regardless of what he does defensively he's a liability.

He's 1% worse of a shooter from FT than he was last year (50 vs 49) so far this season. So you can stop preaching that he has improved now.

Most the 3rd? Lol

We were up big until he went out with a few minutes left in the 3rd

Starting losing the lead

Then got it back

Sitting Whiteside is not a good idea

We're 2/3 doing it and last night all we did was keep the same lead when he went out lol

AllBall
12-16-2015, 06:13 PM
we beat the tough teams and lose to the easy ones. LMFAO

So blowout loss to Brooklyn tonight by 20?

archdevil84
12-16-2015, 08:43 PM
ugh its jaret jack. another one of those gary neal scrubs that scores 30 against us

archdevil84
12-16-2015, 08:52 PM
how many points does jack has already? he's killing us once again

Slug3
12-16-2015, 08:59 PM
how many points does jack has already? he's killing us once again

Lopez is killing us more. I'm not watching but what is Whiteside doing on him?

SteBO
12-16-2015, 09:14 PM
Every ****ing year with this Ellington dude...every.....****ing......year!

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 09:35 PM
Would probably have a bigger lead going into the half if we knew how to hit the hot hand. Wade didn't attempt a single shot in the 2nd. Oh well I'll take the lead especially after being down 10.

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 09:59 PM
Can we give Wade the ****ing ball more?

Hardaway Here
12-16-2015, 10:19 PM
Lineup isn't producing any ****ing offense. SMH

SteBO
12-16-2015, 10:20 PM
Spo, axe this lineup...and quickly.

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:25 PM
Tyler get hurt again?

SteBO
12-16-2015, 10:26 PM
Spo, this lineup has been in waayyy too long. Inexcusable.

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:27 PM
Spos rotations this second half have been awful.

SteBO
12-16-2015, 10:27 PM
Tyler get hurt again?
No, Spo likes Udrih

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:27 PM
Guessing Tyler is still hurting. That would be a huge loss for this team.

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:28 PM
Another timeout and no subs! Wtf?

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:30 PM
No, Spo likes Udrih

I like Udrih too, but Tyler plays one bad half and is out of the rotation. Seems a little crazy to me

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:30 PM
Another timeout and no subs! Wtf?

While the pattern has been different tonight, the timing of subs are usually right at 6 minutes in the 4th

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:31 PM
Let's go! Wade the GOAT! They've been itching to get back into the game.

Hardaway Here
12-16-2015, 10:31 PM
Wade is the Heat period.

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:32 PM
While the pattern has been different tonight, the timing of subs are usually right at 6 minutes in the 4th

You sure? I thought it's around 8.

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:33 PM
Honestly, if Deng is going to embrace the stretch 4 role that he didnt want to play previously, this makes McRoberts much more expendable.

Hardaway Here
12-16-2015, 10:34 PM
You sure? I thought it's around 8.

Always a bit under 7 minutes

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:34 PM
Love that the past 2 games the bench is having fun.

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:36 PM
Honestly, if Deng is going to embrace the stretch 4 role that he didnt want to play previously, this makes McRoberts much more expendable.

I'd say it's a for sure thing he's gone this year. Just for the simple fact it'll free up 5-6 million this summer. May not be much but could change a 10M deal for someone into a 15m deal which is a huge difference when you look at it like that.

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:37 PM
Yeah I could see it too if we make a move at the deadline. Deng as the 4 has been such an effective lineup for us. Would love to keep Luol next year if he wants to go there full time

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:40 PM
Good lord Wade tried to pop that ball with the block lol

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:41 PM
I would also love to keep luol. Even as the backup 3/4

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:41 PM
That is a god awful call

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:42 PM
Come on don't give it up. We've made some bad decisions these last couple plays.

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:42 PM
Terrible call

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:43 PM
Good **** Wade!

WaDe03
12-16-2015, 10:44 PM
You gotta make your move right there and seal the game Wade

Slug3
12-16-2015, 10:44 PM
Didn't get to watch. Just see the box score. Anyone got quick recap on tonight?

Mr. Baller
12-16-2015, 10:44 PM
Thank you Lionel for not fouling.

hotdalton18
12-17-2015, 12:32 AM
When Whiteside and Wade are both on this team is really good

hotdalton18
12-17-2015, 12:57 AM
N how about Winslow going 3 for 3 from 3PT range?

Keep working on it young fella

archdevil84
12-18-2015, 10:46 PM
GG has been on fire lately

SteBO
12-18-2015, 11:21 PM
Oh look another home game where we beat ourselves more than the opponent. The turnovers are irksome and annoying, and 85-90% of them were unforced.

hotdalton18
12-18-2015, 11:31 PM
Lmaooo as soon as we took Hassan out in the 4th we got blown out x)

In the paint

Hopefully this shuts some people up

beasted86
12-18-2015, 11:31 PM
Yeah, turnovers are the Achilles heal, which is brought on by lack of spacing.

Bosh was way too timid tonight offensively and should have been putting more pressure on them. The two dunks were nice, but I needed to see him get to the FT line more than once. Guys like Richardson and Haslem cannot be playing on a supposed playoff team.

We really need Johnson and McRoberts back, soon hopefully.

hotdalton18
12-18-2015, 11:36 PM
Wade's stats don't look bad but he was bad

So many TO's

Bad defense and not getting back at the end

WaDe03
12-19-2015, 01:50 AM
The Raptors shot ridiculous percentages in the paint and from mid range in the 2nd half. That can't happen with Bosh and Whiteside down there. Wade needs to chill with the turnovers and Demar got that Harden home cooking on our own floor smh. Dragic started strong but he needed to finish strong. Bosh was nowhere to be found again. Our lack of depth right now is hurting us as well.

WaDe03
12-19-2015, 01:52 AM
Wade's stats don't look bad but he was bad

So many TO's

Bad defense and not getting back at the end

Not near as bad as Bosh (our max player)

SteBO
12-19-2015, 08:51 AM
Not near as bad as Bosh (our max player)
Agreed with this. Bosh needs to be more consistent.

hotdalton18
12-19-2015, 06:36 PM
Wade's stats don't look bad but he was bad

So many TO's

Bad defense and not getting back at the end

Not near as bad as Bosh (our max player)



Agree

Bosh needs to step up also

When there bad , we are terrible

hotdalton18
12-19-2015, 06:36 PM
Spo needs to go asap tho...we get the lead down to one with Whiteside in the game...takes him out mid 4th and we lose by 10+

All-In
12-19-2015, 08:48 PM
Some interesting numbers:

Bosh does spot-ups 27.8% of the time at a .88ppp which is the 42nd percentile which is alright but as a roll-man of the PnR he does it 24.6% of the time at a 1.16ppp which is the 83rd percentile which is very good

Whiteside does post-ups 26.1% of the time at a .68ppp which is the 14th percentile which is god awful but as a roll-man he does it 17.3% of the time at a 1.33ppp which is the 95th percentile which is amazing

I think the numbers are self-explanatory.....the most dangerous man in a "Pick and Roll" offense is the roll-man