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Vee-Rex
11-25-2015, 12:58 AM
Assuming the Cavs are 1st, who is second best in the East right now? Who will finish the season as the 2nd best and most capable of defeating the Cavs in the playoffs?

leprechaun5
11-25-2015, 01:02 AM
Defeating the Cavs? Nobody! Finishing second? Probably Bulls, but with the way Paul George is playing right now I can see Indy putting up a fight.

kdspurman
11-25-2015, 01:06 AM
Idk if Cavs will definitely end up as the 1 seed, but I think Indy probably has the best chance as of now to defeat them in a 7 game series

bucketss
11-25-2015, 01:19 AM
idk why toronto isn't an option

tredigs
11-25-2015, 01:47 AM
I'd have to side with Miami having the best shot at it. Especially if they can figure out how to properly use Dragic, who has been horrible.

FlashBolt
11-25-2015, 01:55 AM
My money is on the Bulls for now but I can easily see Miami being that team if they somehow can get Dragic going and also, Green can be a helpful boost in the bench. This Heat team should be dominating with how well Whiteside has been playing. 15/11/5 blocks in only 29 minutes. It's either Bosh has a great game and Wade doesn't or vice versa. More consistency and they would be right up there as the 2nd. Pacers are winning because of defense but I'm afraid they aren't a high scoring team. It might work out occasionally but you're going to have to score when teams heat up.

Arch Stanton
11-25-2015, 03:26 AM
Going with the Bulls who almost went up 3-1, had LeBron missed that 3 in Chicago. The Bulls were also dealing with an injured Noah and Gasol. On the other end the Cavs were without Kyrie and Love. I think the Bulls pose the biggest threat, but Miami, Washington, Indy, and the Pistons could make some noise. I think Atlanta could threaten other teams, but not the Cavs.

ManningToTyree
11-25-2015, 04:06 AM
Miami

goingfor28
11-25-2015, 05:52 AM
1 Miami
2 Chicago
3 Indiana

I don't think anybody else has even a remote chance at winning the east

It would be really fun watching Miami and Cleveland battle in the ECF

KnicksorBust
11-25-2015, 08:59 AM
Hawks for me. Love their frontcourt and they have plenty of shooters and chemistry on offense. They have the best chance against the Cavs. Heat a close second.

Raptors should definitely be on this poll though.

SteBO
11-25-2015, 09:05 AM
Right now, I'll say Chicago. I think by regular season's end, it could be Miami, but they've got to get a shooter. Miami's got a good defense, but that alone likely isn't gonna beat the Cavs if they're fully healthy. Not sold on Indiana, but they've been a surprise early that's for sure.

IndyRealist
11-25-2015, 09:19 AM
Pacers are winning because of defense but I'm afraid they aren't a high scoring team. It might work out occasionally but you're going to have to score when teams heat up.

Defense doesn't win championships anymore? :P

Give the offense time, they are running a completely new system and people have been injured.

SteBO
11-25-2015, 09:23 AM
Defense doesn't win championships anymore? :P

Give the offense time, they are running a completely new system and people have been injured.
Same things are happening with Miami. PG's offense alone is keeping you guys afloat....also helps that CJ Miles can occasionally explode like he did @WSH last night.

LanceUpperCut
11-25-2015, 09:35 AM
How is there no Toronto or Washington choice? I mean Indy is a half game up on TO and the Raps have played 11 of 15 games on the road and Washington is 6-5, Kind of crazy how TO has played 4 more games then Washington already.

As for the question I'd say it's Chicago but it's awful close and should be a good competitive season in the East.

kdspurman
11-25-2015, 09:37 AM
Yea I would have Miami followed by Indy I think but they're very close. We'll have to see how they're looking at the ASB but Miami is playing some great defense early on

1225
11-25-2015, 10:22 AM
Pacers are winning because of defense but I'm afraid they aren't a high scoring team. It might work out occasionally but you're going to have to score when teams heat up.

They're averaging 101 PPG, and the last 3 games they've had 112, 123, and 123.

FlashBolt
11-25-2015, 05:18 PM
They're averaging 101 PPG, and the last 3 games they've had 112, 123, and 123.

And they rank bottom ten in scoring. So they had some high scoring games lately but let's not proclaim them the GSW or something. They need more scoring from Monta.

FlashBolt
11-25-2015, 05:20 PM
Defense doesn't win championships anymore? :P

Give the offense time, they are running a completely new system and people have been injured.

It does but if you can't score (Which is what Memphis has had issues with the previous seasons), it gets difficult to win games. Bulls had that same issue as well. Their defense was excellent but their lack of scoring forced them to make up for it defensively. It's not always going to work. You need a balance.

SportsFanatic10
11-25-2015, 05:46 PM
It will probably be the Heat as long as they stay reasonably healthy. I still would like to see them find a solid 3pt specialist along the way from buyouts or a trade though.

KnicksorBust
11-25-2015, 06:22 PM
How is there no Toronto or Washington choice? I mean Indy is a half game up on TO and the Raps have played 11 of 15 games on the road and Washington is 6-5, Kind of crazy how TO has played 4 more games then Washington already.

As for the question I'd say it's Chicago but it's awful close and should be a good competitive season in the East.

Good call about Washington. If there is a healthy Wall-Beal that team would be dangerous .

Ironman5219
11-25-2015, 10:26 PM
It will be: 1 cleveland 2 Miami 3 hawks 4 Toronto 5 wahinton 6 bulls 7 indy 8 Detroit

Ironman5219
11-25-2015, 10:29 PM
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IndyRealist
11-26-2015, 12:57 AM
Good call about Washington. If there is a healthy Wall-Beal that team would be dangerous .

Washington really doesn't look very good at the moment, and just lost by a fair margin to a surprising 9-6 Charlotte team. Why isn't Charlotte on the list?

dalton749
11-26-2015, 01:44 AM
Toronto should be up there right now. League leading 11 road games, 5 home but a 10-6 record is tough

Cal827
11-26-2015, 02:04 AM
Miami and Toronto I think are 2 and 3 (and probably the teams with the best shot of taking Cleveland down)

Miami has Wade, Bosh, an underrated Bench, and of course, that dominant Centre out of nowhere. I think they have the best shot at taking Cleveland down, fairly easily over the other teams. They seem to have the least flaws (well, other than injuries)

Toronto's team is much better defensively compared to the end of last season, very good wing defenders, and as mentioned before 10-6 despite the Western Road Trip (wins @ OKC, Dallas, LAC). In all but one of their losses (Miami), they've been in the game, and had the lead late in the 4th, including in Golden State. Of course, the Raptors biggest issue is gonna be inside unless Patterson/Scola go beserk, or Byombo becomes the next Whiteside since JV is out for a bit :laugh2:

WOwolfOL
11-26-2015, 02:09 AM
Oh how awesome it would be if Miami beat the Cavs in the playoffs

1225
11-26-2015, 09:24 AM
And they rank bottom ten in scoring. So they had some high scoring games lately but let's not proclaim them the GSW or something. They need more scoring from Monta.

They rank in the top 15 in scoring. And 4th in defensive scoring. Nobody is proclaiming them to be GSW.

Sofnr
11-26-2015, 10:28 AM
I'll stick with the Bulls as the 2nd best until i see a reason not to. They were the biggest threat to the Cavs last year. They've got a whole new system in place this year and have still managed to play well enough to keep the 2nd best record in the East. They don't look amazing but they've been adequate and they have just as much room to improve as these teams like Miami and Indiana that people think will get better. I expect them to be a better looking team at the end of the year then now if they can stay healthy. They're deep and experienced. I don't think they have much shot of knocking off Cleveland but i'd take them over anybody else in the East.

LanceUpperCut
11-26-2015, 01:15 PM
I think people need to stop looking at records right now some teams have had much hard sch. Going just by rosters I think Chi is number 2 and Mia/Tor/Atl are interchangeable for the 3rd spot.

dalton749
11-26-2015, 04:00 PM
Miami has played the least amount of road games so far so I expect them to come down a bit. Will probably be a very close battle from 2-6 or so with nobody really being clear cut above the rest

Shammyguy3
11-27-2015, 07:45 PM
I'll go with Indiana - 2nd best defense in the league so far this year, and perhaps the 2nd best player in the Eastern Conference. Their offensive rating is 13th, not terrible. Enough to go with that defense to be the 2nd best in the East. The Bulls are not that team so long as Rose is on our team because he's so inconsistent. And the Bulls are a team full of 1-way players outside of Jimmy Butler.

JasonJohnHorn
11-29-2015, 07:14 PM
I love the Hawks, but it seems like the steam of last season has been taken out of them; almost like they were worn down from it.

Toronto should be an option here. They have the second most wins and the third fewest losses and they are essentially even in the standings with MIA and IND.


Miami is my pick though. They have two all-stars (Wade and Bosh) and Whiteside is playing like a beast. If they still have LBJ, the season would be over already.

On top of that, Deng and Dragic and a nice bench with Haslem, Amare, Andersen, McRobert, and Chalmers.


Pretty good on paper.

KnicksorBust
11-29-2015, 08:16 PM
Good call about Washington. If there is a healthy Wall-Beal that team would be dangerous .

Washington really doesn't look very good at the moment, and just lost by a fair margin to a surprising 9-6 Charlotte team. Why isn't Charlotte on the list?

Nobody believes in them. The big thing people are missing about CHA is that Nic Batum is looking good again. Haven't heard a PEEP about him.

HoopsDrive
11-30-2015, 01:29 AM
For the sake of a competitive finals, I really hope it's one of the Cavs/Bulls/Hawks/Heat that wins out. Every other team out there looks like lunch meat to the likes of the Warriors/Spurs. Raptors are an interesting choice though, they have some decent matchups against the Hawks and Cavs.

Hardaway Here
11-30-2015, 08:55 AM
I just don't feel the Hawks. Heat, Bulls, and Pacers thus far have the best chance to take out Cavs and whoever comes out West.

Yanks All Day
11-30-2015, 12:07 PM
When it comes down to it, I don't think any team in the East can beat Cleveland 4 out of 7 games. The Cavs are playing really well to start the year, and they're doing it without Kyrie Irving or Iman Shumpert. Their offense AND defense will be improving when those two get back. Furthermore, they've figured out how to use Kevin Love. He's a monster again. He's averaging 20 and 12 and his shooting percentages are currently above his career averages. That is not good news for a conference that couldn't stop Cleveland when they didn't know how to use one of the best PF in basketball.

I'd think the team most likely to give the Cavs trouble would be the Miami Heat, provided Dwyane Wade is healthier than he has been in the last 5 years. If he's even hobbled a little, as usually happens as the season progresses, they'd have no chance. I do think Miami is a 3 point shooter away from really solidifying that number 2 spot, but they have the scoring, rebounding, and interior defense needed to give Cleveland some troubles.

Indiana is interesting because of Paul George's resurgence. I don't think Monta Ellis is the solution as their #2 scorer, though. The Wizards are everyone's flashy pick, but outside of Wall and Beal, they're not even competing with Cleveland anywhere on the court. Toronto is, and has been, an average team that occasionally shows flashes. Atlanta doesn't look the same as last year. Chicago is always an interesting pick, but we haven't seen them beat a LeBron James-led team yet, and I don't think they're going to start now. Derrick Rose hasn't been the same in 3-4 years. Unless he does a complete 180, they're not beating Cleveland.

Honestly, the team that could really grow into a problem is the Milwaukee Bucks. They have a young, long, athletic core of players. Greg Monroe is a legitimate center and they have two young stars in Giannis Anteokuunmpo and Jabari Parker. Henson is an athletic, long big man who plays pretty good defense. For them, I think Jabari Parker is still being eased back into NBA shape and they need a better point guard. Michael Carter-Williams can provide spurts, but he's got nearly a 1:1 assist to turnover ratio. I think Jason Kidd can really coach young players. They're more of a "future" team, but they can gel. I wouldn't be surprised to see them as a 5 seed by the end of the year and make some noise. I don't think they're ready to beat Cleveland yet at all, but I think they're the "all-potential" team.

SportsFanatic10
11-30-2015, 03:47 PM
I love the Hawks, but it seems like the steam of last season has been taken out of them; almost like they were worn down from it.

Toronto should be an option here. They have the second most wins and the third fewest losses and they are essentially even in the standings with MIA and IND.


Miami is my pick though. They have two all-stars (Wade and Bosh) and Whiteside is playing like a beast. If they still have LBJ, the season would be over already.

On top of that, Deng and Dragic and a nice bench with Haslem, Amare, Andersen, McRobert, and Chalmers.


Pretty good on paper.

Chalmers was traded to the Grizz...the Heat reserves look like this right now:

T. Johnson / B. Udrih
G. Green / J. Richardson
J. Winslow /
J. McRoberts / U. Haslem / J. Stokes
A. Stoudemire / C. Andersen