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beasted86
11-16-2015, 02:29 PM
11/15 - 11/21 Schedule:
NOTE: ALL TIMES EASTERN


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Miami HEAT vs. Minnesota Timberwolves
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
7:30pmET
Season Series: 1-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun


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Miami HEAT vs. Sacramento Kings
Thursday, Nov 19, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
7:30pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun


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Miami HEAT vs. Philadelphia 76ers
Saturday, Nov 21, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
8:00pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun

WaDe03
11-16-2015, 02:49 PM
It would be awesome and put us in great position going forward if we finish this home stand 7-0.

Slug3
11-16-2015, 04:52 PM
There should be no reason we don't win these 3.

WaDe03
11-16-2015, 06:27 PM
There should be no reason we don't win these 3.

Nope I'm hoping for a 7-0 homestand. 6-1 at the worst.

WaDe03
11-16-2015, 06:29 PM
Just a 3 game sample size but Green was letting opponents shoot only 31.8% from the field. If he can give us anywhere near that and stay around his 42% 3 point percentage then he's going to be huge for us.

naps
11-17-2015, 07:14 AM
Green is a great asset when his shots are falling for sure and can turn a game around single handedly once in a while but I am not sure how I feel about Green taking minutes from TJ/Winslow/Josh. That second unit with Bosh has been the brightest and most impressive thing about this team of this young season so far.

Have yall noticed how Chalmers been tearing it up for the Grizz? Getting to the line like crazy.

beasted86
11-17-2015, 09:49 AM
Green is a great asset when his shots are falling for sure and can turn a game around single handedly once in a while but I am not sure how I feel about Green taking minutes from TJ/Winslow/Josh. That second unit with Bosh has been the brightest and most impressive thing about this team of this young season so far.

Have yall noticed how Chalmers been tearing it up for the Grizz? Getting to the line like crazy.

As I said for a while now. Chalmers can play way above his skill level time to time and was perfect for our bench and insurance in case Dragic had to miss some time. I loved the tandem of him and Johnson over either Johnson and Richardson or Johnson and Udrih. That second unit with him, Johnson, and Winslow was a monster defensively... both the eye test and the metrics backed that up.

Our team was made weaker for tax savings. There's no day ever you could have came to me and asked whether I thought Udrih is a better player than Chalmers and I would have said yes.

But it is what it is. Hopefully Richardson can show us something. Ultimately he has a team option for next year and is much younger than Chalmers. Chalmers would have been a free agent and only here to help us for this season with a slim chance of being able to keep him next summer. So if Richardson can provide defense and improvement on his shot he can be a developing piece.

We needed to start going young at some point either way.

AllBall
11-17-2015, 03:28 PM
Rubio likely to be out tonight. Dragic don't suck FFS!

justinnum1
11-17-2015, 04:21 PM
nervous about green messing up our 2nd unit which is looking nice.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 05:16 PM
nervous about green messing up our 2nd unit which is looking nice.

Hes just going to take Marios minutes really.

SteBO
11-17-2015, 05:59 PM
Can't wait to see our full team again.....it's been too long. We just need to defend. The offense will come; but boy does Dragic need to get going.

justinnum1
11-17-2015, 06:51 PM
Hes just going to take Marios minutes really.

mario was playing well for us, green does one thing and he does that avg.

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 07:59 PM
mario was playing well for us, green does one thing and he does that avg.
We will need Green's offense over the course of the entire season. He's our best shooter and has been playing ok defense.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 08:06 PM
Hoping Richardson gets time today.

Dade County
11-17-2015, 08:07 PM
Minny will play tough tonight.

All-In
11-17-2015, 08:30 PM
I think this is the first time in a while where I can honestly say the Eastern Conference is good again(at least as of this moment).......the past few years 38-44 means you make the playoffs in the East, but if teams like Boston, Indiana, Milwaukee, Charlotte and Detroit keep on progressing the East playoffs are going to be challenging even for Cleveland.....Every game matters......lets get this win

That Rio trade really ticks me off......I've already vented in previous post's so Ill it leave at that

Green needs to shoot more corner 3's, he shoots way too many above the break 3's, 2013-2014 season he shot 66/141 corner 3's, thats 47%, if he can do that then he deserves minutes.....thats a huge if though

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 08:33 PM
Rio has a chip is why he's playing well

He's one of the most inconsistent players in the league

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 08:33 PM
Whiteside vs Towns and Winslow vs Wiggins should be fun

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 08:55 PM
Winslow hit a 3! Lol

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 08:56 PM
Dragic and Whiteside look on early

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 08:58 PM
Whiteside is the best shot blocker in the league

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 09:04 PM
Dragic learning how to pass to the big man finally!

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 09:11 PM
I know it's against the T-Wolves, but this team has the potential to be special if they put it all together.

Nice start by Dragic. Hope his family never leaves his side again!

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 09:13 PM
smh offense just died

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 09:17 PM
Waits for the lead to be gone then calls TO smh.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 09:29 PM
smh offense just died

No worries

Starters back in

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 09:33 PM
I know it's against the T-Wolves, but this team has the potential to be special if they put it all together.

Nice start by Dragic. Hope his family never leaves his side again!

Dragic plays like this we beat the cavs

He plays like all the other games , we don't

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 09:43 PM
Whiteside has an above average centers stats in the 1st half lol

12/9 and 5 blocks already

Would be awesome if we got another triple double with blocks

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 09:43 PM
And Dragic has finally arrived

12 points , 7 assist and his defense doesn't look so bad tonight !

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 09:44 PM
Dragic plays like this we beat the cavs

He plays like all the other games , we don't
Agreed. Starting unit is starting to develop chemistry finally. I think if Dragic can average at least 16-18 ppg, and 7-8 assists, we have a shot against the Cavs.

Bench is off tonight offensively, but that will change.

And as we all know, Whiteside is an absolute beast on both ends. Give that man his max deal!

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 09:49 PM
Whiteside has an above average centers stats in the 1st half lol

12/9 and 5 blocks already

Would be awesome if we got another triple double with blocks

He's loving that Wades back.

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 10:01 PM
Is Whiteside going to contest towns shot

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 10:05 PM
Bosh is -18 for +/-? I'm not watching the game ATM but wow.

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 10:05 PM
Whiteside hitting the dab

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 10:07 PM
Bosh is -18 for +/-? I'm not watching the game ATM but wow.

He's been terrible.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:10 PM
Is Whiteside going to contest towns shot

Idk man just 8 blocks so far

Wish he would contest more!

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:10 PM
Whiteside has an above average centers stats in the 1st half lol

12/9 and 5 blocks already

Would be awesome if we got another triple double with blocks

He's loving that Wades back.

Dragic actually has gotten it to Whiteside a lot this game

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:12 PM
So just started watching and I see Bosh is playing big time. Lol

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 10:16 PM
With the exception of Winslow, the bench has been awful tonight.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:16 PM
The score board has Whiteside with 8 blocks but he clearly has 9 and possibly already has a 10th one

What ********

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:19 PM
With the exception of Winslow, the bench has been awful tonight.

Starting with bosh since he plays with the bench

He kinda ruins the bench momentum when he's off

Mr. Baller
11-17-2015, 10:19 PM
He definitely has 9, I got home midway through half time and he has 4 this quarter

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 10:21 PM
Deng has been solid tonight.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:21 PM
He definitely has 9, I got home midway through half time and he has 4 this quarter

Will they fix it after the game or is it just stuck how they have it?

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:22 PM
I still remember Whiteside telling us his FT shooting wouldn't be a problem. Lol

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:23 PM
Will they fix it after the game or is it just stuck how they have it?

It depends on what the official box score for the NBA has. So they could.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:25 PM
Will they fix it after the game or is it just stuck how they have it?

It depends on what the official box score for the NBA has. So they could.

Hopefully he gets back in this one with some time left

Would love to see him get his 2nd triple double with blocks and he hasn't even played a full season worth of games yet lol

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 10:30 PM
They already fixed it they have him with 10

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:30 PM
Whiteside corrected to 10 blocks

Dude is amazing

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:31 PM
Winslows D is on point. But he needs to work on his offensive game which I'm sure will come. Too many traveling turnovers or not knowing where the out of bounds is.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:31 PM
They already fixed it they have him with 10

Crazy

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 10:32 PM
Game would be a blowout if not for all these damn TOs

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:32 PM
Winslows D is on point. But he needs to work on his offensive game which I'm sure will come. Too many traveling turnovers or not knowing where the out of bounds is.

Yep

Work on offense all off season

Id love to see him play live in summer league

Last sl game I went to he sat out

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:33 PM
4 days off seems like it killed our offensive and we are just doing nothing but turn the ball over.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:34 PM
McBob needs to just be taken out of the game for the rest of the game. Dude is not helping and just causing turnovers.

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 10:34 PM
Put the starters back in. Winslow and McBob just keep giving Minny the ball right now. Not helping us in this close game

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 10:38 PM
Get.Whiteside.In.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:38 PM
Looks like TO and missed FTs will be why we lose this one. No reason minny should even be in the game.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:39 PM
Spo just had to shove McBob down our throats tonight.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:40 PM
Spo waited till we completely lost the lead to make a change lol

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 10:41 PM
Idk why Spo didn't bring the starters back in sooner. He always wait until the lead is gone that is so frustrating

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 10:44 PM
Whiteside with a Shaq-esque type performance.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:49 PM
Whiteside with a Shaq-esque type performance.

How many triple doubles with 10+ blocks did Shaq have ?

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:51 PM
You would think with the way the refs are calling this game that Minny is at home.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:52 PM
Hack a Shaq should be thrown out of the game

Most boring , foul **** iv ever seen

Never liked it

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:53 PM
With the missed FTs and TO hurt us as well as Spo in the 4th.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:53 PM
Wade taking a terrible step back jumper when we need a bucket

Awesome

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 10:54 PM
.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:54 PM
Hack a Shaq should be thrown out of the game

Most boring , foul **** iv ever seen

Never liked it

Or you know Whiteside can actually make his FTs.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:55 PM
Can't stop them on offense

Just on fire smh

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:56 PM
I hope Wade makes no all star team or any NBA team. Dude clearly deserves nothing.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 10:56 PM
Hack a Shaq should be thrown out of the game

Most boring , foul **** iv ever seen

Never liked it

Or you know Whiteside can actually make his FTs.

A lot of centers miss FT

We've missed 16 as a team , so

Hardaway Here
11-17-2015, 10:56 PM
Fts and TOs just ridiculous

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:58 PM
A lot of centers miss FT

We've missed 16 as a team , so

So nothing. If Whiteside wants to play in close games down the stretch then he needs to make his FTs and not look at the NBA to change the rules for a select crappy shooters.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 10:59 PM
Fts and TOs just ridiculous

And Spo. Up 9 and he kept Winslow and McBob in to blow that lead.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:00 PM
A lot of centers miss FT

We've missed 16 as a team , so

So nothing. If Whiteside wants to play in close games down the stretch then he needs to make his FTs and not look at the NBA to change the rules for a select crappy shooters.


Can't do it with 2 minutes left So he will play anyway

If you foul , whoever has the ball should shoot the FT period

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 11:00 PM
I hope Wade makes no all star team or any NBA team. Dude clearly deserves nothing.
Can't wish that on him bro. He's frustrating all of us for sure, but he's the greatest Heat player ever. We want him in every all star game.

If he's not playing at an all star level, then this team is in trouble.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:00 PM
Fts and TOs just ridiculous

And Spo. Up 9 and he kept Winslow and McBob in to blow that lead.


Let's not forget how ****ing garbage Wade has been like 4 games in a row

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:01 PM
I hope Wade makes no all star team or any NBA team. Dude clearly deserves nothing.
Can't wish that on him bro. He's frustrating all of us for sure, but he's the greatest Heat player ever. We want him in every all star game.

If he's not playing at an all star level, then this team is in trouble.

We won the 3 before this without him being good at all

Slug3
11-17-2015, 11:02 PM
Can't wish that on him bro. He's frustrating all of us for sure, but he's the greatest Heat player ever. We want him in every all star game.

If he's not playing at an all star level, then this team is in trouble.

I'm sorry but Wade got in last year for all star on name alone. This year he does not deserve it at all.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:03 PM
Reasons we lost

Wade has his 4th garbage game in a row

Spo gave up 2 leads letting certain line ups stay in way to long

Bosh was complete trash

Dragic didn't do **** in the 2nd half

Missed FT's and TO's killed us to

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 11:03 PM
Bosh finishes with a +/- of -36. Holy ****.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 11:03 PM
Can't do it with 2 minutes left So he will play anyway

If you foul , whoever has the ball should shoot the FT period

Yeah but with 4 min left it was still a close and winnable game then they sent him to the line and that was that.

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 11:04 PM
We won the 3 before this without him being good at all
Yes, against scrub teams. He can't play like this over the course of an entire season if we expect the Heat to be a top 3 team in the East.

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 11:04 PM
This is ****ing ridiculous. Terrible game by Wade, Bosh, Spo, free throws, and turnovers.

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 11:05 PM
Yes, against scrub teams. He can't play like this over the course of an entire season if we expect the Heat to be a top 3 team in the East.

Nope Wade is the key and he's been terrible lately.

AllBall
11-17-2015, 11:08 PM
How many triple doubles with 10+ blocks did Shaq have ?

24 pts / 28 rebounds / 15 bocks - November 20, 1993

Slug3
11-17-2015, 11:08 PM
Nope Wade is the key and he's been terrible lately.

I think Whiteside and Bosh are more key than Wade. They have good games then we are good. Bosh struggled today and it hurt us. Even with the FTs and TOs we had a chance to win it. Wades going to be someone that goes off for 25/30 every so often but that's about it. Wade as a super star is done and as a star is pretty much about to die. He's hesding quickly into a support role.

Also Whiteside is going to be getting paid a lot of money.

WadeCounty
11-17-2015, 11:09 PM
Blames on everyone except Whiteside even with his missed free throws.

That being said so much for him saying he worked on his free throws in the off season and using the cut hand injury as an excuse of why he was missing free throws at the end of last season, he just can't make them period. The fact he couldn't this game will lead other coaches to do the same, can one ****ing time as a Heat fan can I get a good free throw shooting team?!?!?! DAMMIT!!!

Winslow with his 6 TO's, he was going for a different type of double double -_-

SteBO
11-17-2015, 11:09 PM
I missed the whole game...but boy when I look at these stats it's obvious Miami just beat themselves tonight. 14/30 from the FT line is atrocious and 22 turnovers is just as bad if not worse, because those are 22 possessions we don't even get a shot at the basket. Everything else from a team standpoint is good enough to beat any team in the NBA.....but what about the lineups? Can anyone fill me in on how Spo managed the rotation?

AllBall
11-17-2015, 11:10 PM
Bosh finishes with a +/- of -36. Holy ****.

This is more of a result of being on the floor at the same time with Green, who sucked.

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 11:10 PM
Our bench was terrible tonight. Every single one of them. If we lose one of these last 3 at home were ****ing garbage.

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 11:11 PM
I hate when we waste monster games like this from Whiteside! He has been the Heats most consistent player so far...

Never thought I would say that.

DQL
11-17-2015, 11:13 PM
Idk why Wade was only -2 while Bosh was a whooping -36. Wade just doesn't give a **** anymore. I hope this diva retires soon so the HEAT can start someone who actually wants to play.

The HEAT must regret trading Chalmers now. He had great synergy with our 2nd unit and could create a bit. Cheap *** owner.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 11:15 PM
This is more of a result of being on the floor at the same time with Green, who sucked.

Him and all the bench guys. Winslow, Mcroberts, Green, and Johnson all sucked tonight. I'm sure Spo will note the lack of interior presence when Bosh and Mcroberts are acting as the frontcourt.

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 11:16 PM
We need a 3 point specialist in our starting line-up. Wasn't the reason we lost, and Deng was hitting them tonight, but I can't stand Bosh shooting as many 3's as he does. Need him to focus more on the mid range game.

I think we may need to explore trading Deng or McBob for that 3-point specialist.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 11:19 PM
I missed the whole game...but boy when I look at these stats it's obvious Miami just beat themselves tonight. 14/30 from the FT line is atrocious and 22 turnovers is just as bad if not worse, because those are 22 possessions we don't even get a shot at the basket. Everything else from a team standpoint is good enough to beat any team in the NBA.....but what about the lineups? Can anyone fill me in on how Spo managed the rotation?

Second unit didn't play good. Winslow, McBob and Green were all pretty bad today. We were up 9 to start the 4th and McBob and Winslow had a good 4 minutes where I think they committed 5/6 TOs between them and probably should have been pulled. But everyone besides Whiteside and Deng played bad today. Wade loved to take the hardest shot he could come up with and Bosh really was a no factor.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 11:20 PM
Idk why Wade was only -2 while Bosh was a whooping -36. Wade just doesn't give a **** anymore. I hope this diva retires soon so the HEAT can start someone who actually wants to play.

The HEAT must regret trading Chalmers now. He had great synergy with our 2nd unit and could create a bit. Cheap *** owner.
Did we even need to trade Chalmers? He could have just as well played backup SG and I would been just fine with keeping Green out for an extended period of time or even cutting him if it meant keeping Chalmers. The trade might look better down the line but it is looking plain awful right about now.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 11:21 PM
Idk why Wade was only -2 while Bosh was a whooping -36. Wade just doesn't give a **** anymore. I hope this diva retires soon so the HEAT can start someone who actually wants to play.

The HEAT must regret trading Chalmers now. He had great synergy with our 2nd unit and could create a bit. Cheap *** owner.

Wade was on the floor a lot with Deng and Whiteside and it really helped his +/-. Bosh got to play with Green who looked like he hadn't played in a month.

SteBO
11-17-2015, 11:21 PM
Idk why Wade was only -2 while Bosh was a whooping -36. Wade just doesn't give a **** anymore. I hope this diva retires soon so the HEAT can start someone who actually wants to play.

The HEAT must regret trading Chalmers now. He had great synergy with our 2nd unit and could create a bit. Cheap *** owner.
Oh sweet Lord. I understand that gift-wrapping a home game to another team is frustrating....but let's chill w/ the Wade and Arison slandering. Mickey's done more than enough for this franchise to have anyone rationally bash him for trading a long since peaked player like Chalmers. And as for Wade, he had a less than stellar game. That's it. No more than that.

Slug3
11-17-2015, 11:23 PM
Did we even need to trade Chalmers? He could have just as well played backup SG and I would been just fine with keeping Green out for an extended period of time or even cutting him if it meant keeping Chalmers. The trade might look better down the line but it is looking plain awful right about now.

I mean it's not my money, but I know We didn't want to trade him but needed to open playing time for TJ as well as work on getting under the repeater tax. I'm sure We will trade Birdman and picks for nothing around the trade deadline to get below the 90 million. I'm assuming they hope we can get under this year which would start next year as our first time over it and be able to add pieces for a few years for title runs.

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 11:26 PM
Oh sweet Lord. I understand that gift-wrapping a home game to another team is frustrating....but let's chill w/ the Wade and Arison slandering. Mickey's done more than enough for this franchise to have anyone rationally bash him for trading a long since peaked player like Chalmers. And as for Wade, he had a less than stellar game. That's it. No more than that.
Agreed. My last resort with the Heat's issues will be placing blame on Wade or Arison.

Not that they can do no wrong, but they have done far too much good for me to start ripping them a new one.

I'm still personally happy they traded Chalmers. Regardless of how he's playing with Memphis or how we played tonight. Dude wasn't performing for us and wasn't worth the tax burden. Very simple.

AllBall
11-17-2015, 11:26 PM
Him and all the bench guys. Winslow, Mcroberts, Green, and Johnson all sucked tonight. I'm sure Spo will note the lack of interior presence when Bosh and Mcroberts are acting as the frontcourt.

No sir, we lost this game because of turnovers and not making free throws. Bosh had nothing to do with it.

Everyone likes to pick out the player that scored the least or that they dislike the most and protect the player they love the most after a loss.

Winslow, Wade, Whiteside and McRoberts. That's the group of the worst offenders in this game.

Winslow 50% from the line. Whiteside 22% from the line.

No need to over complicate this people, turnovers and free throws cost us this game. Not offense. Not defense.

I'm not going to dismiss Whitesides poor free throw performance because he got a triple double. He wants to be the man and get paid, then he has to step up in the clutch.

Wade-a-minute
11-17-2015, 11:29 PM
For those complaining about the Chalmers trade...

Chalmers would not have won us this game tonight. We lost because of turnovers and being mistake machine, he probably would've just contributed to that tonight.

Minus the 1st quarter, we just played a bad game, that's all... On to the next.

SteBO
11-17-2015, 11:30 PM
^AllBall's got it right. This is the first real bad game from the FT line I've seen box score wise from Whiteside, though I could be missing one. In any event, you aren't even gonna beat the 76ers shooting that poorly from the line and turning it over that much. For a team to drop 41 points on you in a quarter while shooting poorly.....just really odd.

WaDe03
11-17-2015, 11:35 PM
We're about to get smacked Thursday

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 11:35 PM
No sir, we lost this game because of turnovers and not making free throws. Bosh had nothing to do with it.

Everyone likes to pick out the player that scored the least or that they dislike the most and protect the player they love the most after a loss.

Winslow, Wade, Whiteside and McRoberts. That's the group of the worst offenders in this game.

Winslow 50% from the line. Whiteside 22% from the line.

No need to over complicate this people, turnovers and free throws cost us this game. Not offense. Not defense.

I'm not going to dismiss Whitesides poor free throw performance because he got a triple double. He wants to be the man and get paid, then he has to step up in the clutch.

I wasn't pinning it on Bosh I meant Bosh playing with all the bench guys and not just Green was the reason why his +/- was so low. I can certainly concur with what your saying though it's always Spo or Bosh's fault every time we lose and Whiteside, Winslow, and Wade's glory when we win.

SteBO
11-17-2015, 11:36 PM
And what do guys think of McRoberts? I still like him for this team, but he needs to make himself a factor on offense. It's like teams know he isn't gonna shoot....he took one shot today and I know he's a good 3pt shooter.

SteBO
11-17-2015, 11:38 PM
We're about to get smacked Thursday
Whiteside's gonna have problems with DMC, but outside of him I'm not worried. If we don't beat ourselves, we shouldn't have too much of a problem unless Rudy Gay does what he always does against us.....drop at least 30. Dude always makes jumpers against us.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-17-2015, 11:41 PM
And what do guys think of McRoberts? I still like him for this team, but he needs to make himself a factor on offense. It's like teams know he isn't gonna shoot....he took one shot today and I know he's a good 3pt shooter.

He adds plenty of value to the team, I think he just needs more time to mesh with a lot of the new faces as well as continuing to get acclimated with the ones from last year.

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:48 PM
Bosh finishes with a +/- of -36. Holy ****.

This is more of a result of being on the floor at the same time with Green, who sucked.




And a result of bosh being garbage

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:51 PM
For those complaining about the Chalmers trade...

Chalmers would not have won us this game tonight. We lost because of turnovers and being mistake machine, he probably would've just contributed to that tonight.

Minus the 1st quarter, we just played a bad game, that's all... On to the next.


Chalmers is trash

He's just hot right now

hotdalton18
11-17-2015, 11:53 PM
Him and all the bench guys. Winslow, Mcroberts, Green, and Johnson all sucked tonight. I'm sure Spo will note the lack of interior presence when Bosh and Mcroberts are acting as the frontcourt.

No sir, we lost this game because of turnovers and not making free throws. Bosh had nothing to do with it.

Everyone likes to pick out the player that scored the least or that they dislike the most and protect the player they love the most after a loss.

Winslow, Wade, Whiteside and McRoberts. That's the group of the worst offenders in this game.

Winslow 50% from the line. Whiteside 22% from the line.

No need to over complicate this people, turnovers and free throws cost us this game. Not offense. Not defense.

I'm not going to dismiss Whitesides poor free throw performance because he got a triple double. He wants to be the man and get paid, then he has to step up in the clutch.


Are you ****ing kidding me? Lmao

Whiteside's few missed FT's didn't lose this game

Wade and Bosh are most to blame for being our main "scorers" and being garbage on both ends

TO's and free theirs as well but bosh and Wade get a big portion of this loss

WaDe03
11-18-2015, 12:01 AM
Now that I'm not as pissed off and thought about it, regardless of Wade and Boshs **** play that they better figure out the bench gave up the big leads Wade and Bosh helped us get. Every bench player was terrible and although Wade and Bosh played bad they were making good solid plays with the first unit.

hotdalton18
11-18-2015, 12:08 AM
Now that I'm not as pissed off and thought about it, regardless of Wade and Boshs **** play that they better figure out the bench gave up the big leads Wade and Bosh helped us get. Every bench player was terrible and although Wade and Bosh played bad they were making good solid plays with the first unit.


You realize Bosh was in with the bench every time the "bench" was in right ?

Wade helped in the 1st half and hurt in the 2nd

Bosh didn't help in either half

Slug3
11-18-2015, 12:13 AM
Are you ****ing kidding me? Lmao

Whiteside's few missed FT's didn't lose this game

Wade and Bosh are most to blame for being our main "scorers" and being garbage on both ends

TO's and free theirs as well but bosh and Wade get a big portion of this loss

Whitesides missed FTs where part of it. We were still close when they did the hack a Whiteside. If he made them he would have stayed in the game and kept us close.

AllBall
11-18-2015, 12:13 AM
And what do guys think of McRoberts? I still like him for this team, but he needs to make himself a factor on offense. It's like teams know he isn't gonna shoot....he took one shot today and I know he's a good 3pt shooter.

When he came into the game it was during that turnover spree and he became a part of it. I've called off the hounds on him for the time being.


Are you ****ing kidding me? Lmao

Whiteside's few missed FT's didn't lose this game

Wade and Bosh are most to blame for being our main "scorers" and being garbage on both ends

TO's and free theirs as well but bosh and Wade get a big portion of this loss

Wait on one cotton picking moment there buddy. You can't expect to buy the proposition tha "we should run the offense through Whiteside" and "he should be the go to guy" and when in the clutch he starts to foul, turnover the ball, get all butterfingers, and botch free throws and give him a pass. Either we hold him to a high standard and run the offense through him or we hold him to a low standard and run the offense through someone else. You can't have it both ways.

WaDe03
11-18-2015, 12:15 AM
You realize Bosh was in with the bench every time the "bench" was in right ?

Wade helped in the 1st half and hurt in the 2nd

Bosh didn't help in either half

What I said must be over your head.

hotdalton18
11-18-2015, 12:19 AM
Are you ****ing kidding me? Lmao

Whiteside's few missed FT's didn't lose this game

Wade and Bosh are most to blame for being our main "scorers" and being garbage on both ends

TO's and free theirs as well but bosh and Wade get a big portion of this loss

Whitesides missed FTs where part of it. We were still close when they did the hack a Whiteside. If he made them he would have stayed in the game and kept us close.


So them scoring on every possession those last few minutes were cause the couple of free throws?

Or the fact that our two best scorers according to most people didn't do ****

hotdalton18
11-18-2015, 12:20 AM
You realize Bosh was in with the bench every time the "bench" was in right ?

Wade helped in the 1st half and hurt in the 2nd

Bosh didn't help in either half

What I said must be over your head.

You said bosh helped us get leads which is false

He was garbage along with the bench players

hotdalton18
11-18-2015, 12:21 AM
And what do guys think of McRoberts? I still like him for this team, but he needs to make himself a factor on offense. It's like teams know he isn't gonna shoot....he took one shot today and I know he's a good 3pt shooter.

When he came into the game it was during that turnover spree and he became a part of it. I've called off the hounds on him for the time being.


Are you ****ing kidding me? Lmao

Whiteside's few missed FT's didn't lose this game

Wade and Bosh are most to blame for being our main "scorers" and being garbage on both ends

TO's and free theirs as well but bosh and Wade get a big portion of this loss

Wait on one cotton picking moment there buddy. You can't expect to buy the proposition tha "we should run the offense through Whiteside" and "he should be the go to guy" and when in the clutch he starts to foul, turnover the ball, get all butterfingers, and botch free throws and give him a pass. Either we hold him to a high standard and run the offense through him or we hold him to a low standard and run the offense through someone else. You can't have it both ways.


He can't hit free throws

So keep him out from 4 minute mark to 2 minute mark every close game

AllBall
11-18-2015, 12:25 AM
He can't hit free throws

So keep him out from 4 minute mark to 2 minute mark every close game

So what's your excuse for his turnovers and fouls? :rolleyes:

WaDe03
11-18-2015, 12:34 AM
Who's our best scorers then hotdalton?

And for those saying Wade isn't the most important piece he's the only player on our team that can take over in the 4th and close out a game.

WaDe03
11-18-2015, 12:55 AM
We need to get Wade and bosh going from the get go on Thursday.

hotdalton18
11-18-2015, 09:53 AM
He can't hit free throws

So keep him out from 4 minute mark to 2 minute mark every close game

So what's your excuse for his turnovers and fouls? :rolleyes:


He has improved major on fouls, what are you talking about bro

He just had his 2nd triple double with blocks and your trying to pick him apart while saying bosh who was ****ing garbage and -36 is not to blame at all

Get it together

hotdalton18
11-18-2015, 09:57 AM
Who's our best scorers then hotdalton?

And for those saying Wade isn't the most important piece he's the only player on our team that can take over in the 4th and close out a game.

He's the only player that used* to take over and close games

Wade sadly is still our best play maker but Whiteside is our best scorer , not pure scorer

Whiteside needs people to get it to him down low....can't really create on offense but is clearly the most efficient scorer we have...and the more shots we can get him down low the better

AllBall
11-18-2015, 10:43 AM
He has improved major on fouls, what are you talking about bro

He just had his 2nd triple double with blocks and your trying to pick him apart while saying bosh who was ****ing garbage and -36 is not to blame at all

Get it together

There is more to the game of basketball than the flashy stuff (points, blocks, steals). Composure is a big part of it as well (fouls, turnovers, assists).

Slug3
11-18-2015, 11:07 AM
So them scoring on every possession those last few minutes were cause the couple of free throws?

Or the fact that our two best scorers according to most people didn't do ****

Well I can see you will be defending Whiteside the rest of the year regardless of what he does. But if he hits those FTs the game stays close and he doesn't have to be taken out and our defense is a little tighter on the wings as they know Whiteside is back there. Its not on Whiteside only that we lost this game, but yes his FTs and those of Winslow hurt us today as well as the TO from Winslow and Wade.

WaDe03
11-18-2015, 11:08 AM
He's the only player that used* to take over and close games

Wade sadly is still our best play maker but Whiteside is our best scorer , not pure scorer

Whiteside needs people to get it to him down low....can't really create on offense but is clearly the most efficient scorer we have...and the more shots we can get him down low the better

So 1 or 2 games changes what he did all of last season taking over in the 4th with that trash *** team we had last year. He led the league in 4th quarter scoring for most of last year and if you recall took over a lot of games in the 4th but didn't pull some out because the garbage like Ennis Beasley and Walker surrounding him on the court. You sound dumb as hell.

Our best scorers in order are Wade, Bosh, then you have either Dragic, Green, or Whiteisde. Dragic will continue to get better and Green can get super hot whenever he gets back in the swing of things. I'm sorry your teams best scorer isn't someone who can only dunk and have an occasional hookshot. We get the ball to him enough we need to be worried about giving the ball to Wade who barely even touched it in the 4th. Wade ran the fast break with Dragic last night great the whole game and never once touched the ball and was basically wide open for lay ups. Terrible decision making for the 1 guy on the team that wants to run.

Whiteside has a triple double, Deng scores 20, Dragic has his best game although he was trash in the second half, the opposing team shoots 30 something % from the field and we lose by double digits on our homecourt. How tf does that happen? The worst game of the season or tied with the Pacers game. Let's not get in this trend of giving games up after we get a 10 point lead like we did last season 25-30 times. We've done it twice so far this season. If you get down double digits against the Warriors the games over. We need to keep the effort up and when our starters get a big lead our bench doesn't need to come in and **** it up.

Anyways now that I'm done with my rant there's no reason we shouldn't win the next 3 games and I expect Wade and Bosh to be huge for us going forward after their terrible game. If not were ****ed. I said I'd be ecstatic with 7-0 but will be happy with 6-1 so I'm sticking to what I said.

AllBall
11-18-2015, 01:47 PM
Well, looking forward now to the next challenge.

Sacramento is ranked #1 in the league for pace at 103.3 possessions per game and #6 in scoring at 103.8 points per game.

I don't think turnovers will be an issue as we had one of the lowest turnover averages in the leauge at 13.1 before the last game.

Things I want to see for next game: Another solid outing by Dragic and Deng, higher team assist totals and more contribution from Wade and Bosh.

SteBO
11-19-2015, 09:18 AM
Wade & Bosh won't both be terrible in the same game again.....and I expect Whiteside continue doing what he's doing well. We just beat ourselves with awful FT shooting and turnovers, both of which are correctable. Everything else from a team standpoint, despite Wade & Bosh's awful showing, was good enough for a 9-point 4th quarter lead. The regular season is all about creating good habits for the playoffs, so it's important they not make the other night a regular occurence. I expect better tonight against SAC.

WaDe03
11-19-2015, 04:48 PM
No Cousins tonight. Absolutely no reason we should lose.

Wade-a-minute
11-19-2015, 05:00 PM
No Cousins tonight. Absolutely no reason we should lose.
Should be a blowout really.

AllBall
11-19-2015, 05:57 PM
Should be a blowout really.

Thanks for the jinx, lol.

archdevil84
11-19-2015, 06:37 PM
i'm looking for a big breakout night for either wade or bosh

SteBO
11-19-2015, 07:02 PM
After that T-Wolves game, I just want a win. The "should be a blowout" take almost never applies.

Slug3
11-19-2015, 08:33 PM
No Cousins tonight. Absolutely no reason we should lose.

That probably just means we will play sloppy and lose. Championship teams tend to blow the weaker teams out. We tend to play down to their talents.

SteBO
11-19-2015, 09:12 PM
Oh look an Amare sighting...that's cool to see.

AllBall
11-19-2015, 09:23 PM
Welcome to the HEAT Amare, geez! o.O

Hardaway Here
11-19-2015, 09:32 PM
Start was sloppy but they are picking it up it seems. Foul trouble with Whiteside may come back to hurt

SteBO
11-19-2015, 09:51 PM
Refs took Whiteside out of rhythm....no rebounds, no blocks, and only one FG on 2 shots.

SteBO
11-19-2015, 09:59 PM
Dragic...c'mon bro.

Hardaway Here
11-19-2015, 10:13 PM
Whiteside back in it and Wade is on lets go

SteBO
11-19-2015, 10:24 PM
We're allowing the entry pass inside way too easily....WCS got a ton of easy baskets that way.

Slug3
11-19-2015, 10:40 PM
I cannot believe Winslow missed a wide open layup there. That's a 4 point swing.

SteBO
11-19-2015, 10:40 PM
Justice really needs to fix that jump shot...

Slug3
11-19-2015, 10:47 PM
Spo has been leaving players in too long when they are struggling.

SteBO
11-19-2015, 10:49 PM
Bellinelli....you beat us in the Finals. Leave us alone damnit lol

Hardaway Here
11-19-2015, 10:50 PM
The 3's he is hitting at least 3 of em were straight up lean ins. All off balance so annoying

WaDe03
11-20-2015, 12:45 AM
Man this forum sucks lol. Was at work so couldn't post but seems we have more post when we lose than we do when we win. Watching the game now and glad to see Wade and Bosh get back to their ways. We won with them playing the way they did tonight and that's when we are at our best. Wade could've shot a little better but definitely missed a couple he'd love to have back. That was a bogus call on the steal he had on Rondo too. Whiteside didn't play much but got his 4 blocks so we're good on his average still leading the league.

Hardaway Here
11-20-2015, 01:00 AM
Man this forum sucks lol. Was at work so couldn't post but seems we have more post when we lose than we do when we win. Watching the game now and glad to see Wade and Bosh get back to their ways. We won with them playing the way they did tonight and that's when we are at our best. Wade could've shot a little better but definitely missed a couple he'd love to have back. That was a bogus call on the steal he had on Rondo too. Whiteside didn't play much but got his 4 blocks so we're good on his average still leading the league.

Less to complain about when winning. To be honest the lost was a closer game throughout and a lot more exciting than this game.

hotdalton18
11-20-2015, 02:24 AM
Was watching my Jaguars tonight so didn't get to watch

Looks like Wade and Bosh did good

Whiteside did well in limited minutes

Dragic average as hell

Mr. Baller
11-20-2015, 08:03 AM
Was watching my Jaguars tonight so didn't get to watch

Looks like Wade and Bosh did good

Whiteside did well in limited minutes

Dragic average as hell

Whiteside got in early foul trouble and came out a little disengaged to start 2nd half, once he got his first bucket in 2nd half he really picked it up. Sat in crunch time since Kings went small and Bosh was having the better game.

unleashthebeast
11-20-2015, 10:46 AM
Whiteside is averaging more blocks per game than 7 teams. 7 TEAMS. That's insane :laugh2:

justinnum1
11-20-2015, 10:48 AM
dragic is terrible. just an awful fit. such a shame that we are basically force feeding this guy minutes. has a PER of 11 lmao. chamlers per is 20. wades per is under 20 lol.

but for real, when is this scrub going to not be such a net negative for the heat?


what was riley thinking paring a poor shooter that likes to play fast and needs the ball in his hand with wade?

wade is a better ball handler than dragic. wade likes to play slow. wade needs to shooter next to him for spacing. this team could be a contender with the right PG, but we will probably have to settle for 2nd round ceiling smh. cant wait to see dragic guarding kyrie LMAO.

and im not even going to start with gerald"shooting under 30% from the field"green. that scrub should be in the dleague. playing him over jrich is criminal. there was a reason no one wanted that scrub and he was available for the min lmao

Slug3
11-20-2015, 11:15 AM
Whiteside got in early foul trouble and came out a little disengaged to start 2nd half, once he got his first bucket in 2nd half he really picked it up. Sat in crunch time since Kings went small and Bosh was having the better game. I don't see Whiteside playing much down the stretch in close games since he cant make his FTs.

justinnum1
11-20-2015, 11:18 AM
I don't see Whiteside playing much down the stretch in close games since he cant make his FTs.

he made them all last night.

whiteside problem last night was when he got in foul trouble, he played scared and was totally ineffective out there in the 2nd qtr. he was afraid to contest shots to not pick up a 3rd foul.

hotdalton18
11-20-2015, 11:39 AM
Whiteside got in early foul trouble and came out a little disengaged to start 2nd half, once he got his first bucket in 2nd half he really picked it up. Sat in crunch time since Kings went small and Bosh was having the better game. I don't see Whiteside playing much down the stretch in close games since he cant make his FTs.


When the Kings tried to hack a Shaq him didn't he make them all? Lol

hotdalton18
11-20-2015, 11:40 AM
Was watching my Jaguars tonight so didn't get to watch

Looks like Wade and Bosh did good

Whiteside did well in limited minutes

Dragic average as hell

Whiteside got in early foul trouble and came out a little disengaged to start 2nd half, once he got his first bucket in 2nd half he really picked it up. Sat in crunch time since Kings went small and Bosh was having the better game.

That's his only issue to me

He seems to be a little out of it on defense when he's not getting shots

WaDe03
11-20-2015, 12:09 PM
Whiteside is also too worried about his stats. Anytime someone on the heat grab a rebound close to him he hangs his head back and shakes his head with a pouting look on his face. I think he'll be even better once he stops doing stuff like that and doesn't worry about his numbers and just goes out and plays.


Wade looked awesome tonight and was very aggressive on both ends. We need that Wade every night and well be pretty much unbeatable.

If Dragic doesn't get his head out of his *** by New Years he needs to go for a player or 2 that can shoot and defend. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since its early but I don't see it changing.

justinnum1
11-20-2015, 12:46 PM
Whiteside is also too worried about his stats. Anytime someone on the heat grab a rebound close to him he hangs his head back and shakes his head with a pouting look on his face. I think he'll be even better once he stops doing stuff like that and doesn't worry about his numbers and just goes out and plays.


Wade looked awesome tonight and was very aggressive on both ends. We need that Wade every night and well be pretty much unbeatable.

If Dragic doesn't get his head out of his *** by New Years he needs to go for a player or 2 that can shoot and defend. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since its early but I don't see it changing.

wade cant play like that everynight. half his games he will look like an elite player, the other half we would be better off if he wasn't playing lol.

WaDe03
11-20-2015, 02:26 PM
wade cant play like that everynight. half his games he will look like an elite player, the other half we would be better off if he wasn't playing lol.

Body and health wise he's looked great this year. He's just had a few games the shots weren't falling but I think he'll clean that up. It would help him a lot if teams had to worry about Dragic as a scoring threat but they don't since he's garbage. 2 games he sat out the 4th quarter so there's no telling if he would've scored more but that's usually his best quarter. I think people are over exaggerating his last 4 games. It'll be nice if he starts getting some calls.

Slug3
11-20-2015, 03:51 PM
When the Kings tried to hack a Shaq him didn't he make them all? Lol

He Made 4 FTs, its not like he was 12-12 or something. There were nights where Shaq was like 12-13 on FTs, that didn't make him a good FT shooter. Whiteside got a few FTs and made them. But most the time he is going to be missing them.

hotdalton18
11-20-2015, 05:11 PM
Whiteside is also too worried about his stats. Anytime someone on the heat grab a rebound close to him he hangs his head back and shakes his head with a pouting look on his face. I think he'll be even better once he stops doing stuff like that and doesn't worry about his numbers and just goes out and plays.


Wade looked awesome tonight and was very aggressive on both ends. We need that Wade every night and well be pretty much unbeatable.

If Dragic doesn't get his head out of his *** by New Years he needs to go for a player or 2 that can shoot and defend. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since its early but I don't see it changing.

I think he worries about that stuff cause he's worried about getting paid

Cause he's almost 27 and still hasn't been paid yet

Once that happens then that prolly goes away

hotdalton18
11-20-2015, 05:13 PM
When the Kings tried to hack a Shaq him didn't he make them all? Lol

He Made 4 FTs, its not like he was 12-12 or something. There were nights where Shaq was like 12-13 on FTs, that didn't make him a good FT shooter. Whiteside got a few FTs and made them. But most the time he is going to be missing them.


If he makes 4-4 more often teams won't hack him

WaDe03
11-20-2015, 10:05 PM
I think he worries about that stuff cause he's worried about getting paid

Cause he's almost 27 and still hasn't been paid yet

Once that happens then that prolly goes away

He's getting paid this offseason that's a fact. Some players are just more worried about their stats than they should be.

Dade County
11-20-2015, 11:15 PM
All of the centers/big men we wanted to see Whiteside face, haven't been able to play against him. The NBA is planning something. Lol

WaDe03
11-20-2015, 11:41 PM
If we lose to the Sixers I'll probably deactivate my account lol.

beasted86
11-21-2015, 12:35 PM
dragic is terrible. just an awful fit. such a shame that we are basically force feeding this guy minutes. has a PER of 11 lmao. chamlers per is 20. wades per is under 20 lol.

but for real, when is this scrub going to not be such a net negative for the heat?


what was riley thinking paring a poor shooter that likes to play fast and needs the ball in his hand with wade?

wade is a better ball handler than dragic. wade likes to play slow. wade needs to shooter next to him for spacing. this team could be a contender with the right PG, but we will probably have to settle for 2nd round ceiling smh. cant wait to see dragic guarding kyrie LMAO.

and im not even going to start with gerald"shooting under 30% from the field"green. that scrub should be in the dleague. playing him over jrich is criminal. there was a reason no one wanted that scrub and he was available for the min lmao

I think they were a little too fearful of Wade injuries and were looking for a semi replacement player if the worst came to worst.

Dragic has been straight garbage. I read something like he's shooting 28% from outside 10 feet. His defense is worse than 33 year old Wade who's already on the decline athletically.

They will need to consider a trade before the deadline.

Indiana seems set on playing fast, how about George Hill for Dragic swap? Totally serious on that idea, LOL. That's how far his value has fallen within this team.

WaDe03
11-21-2015, 12:57 PM
I think they were a little too fearful of Wade injuries and were looking for a semi replacement player if the worst came to worst.

Dragic has been straight garbage. I read something like he's shooting 28% from outside 10 feet. His defense is worse than 33 year old Wade who's already on the decline athletically.

They will need to consider a trade before the deadline.

Indiana seems set on playing fast, how about George Hill for Dragic swap? Totally serious on that idea, LOL. That's how far his value has fallen within this team.

I wouldn't be mad at that at least Hill can shoot the 3 and defend.

beasted86
11-21-2015, 01:16 PM
I wouldn't be mad at that at least Hill can shoot the 3 and defend.

I agree, it's just sort of asinine the thought of giving up 2 first round picks for George Hill.

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 01:53 PM
I think he worries about that stuff cause he's worried about getting paid

Cause he's almost 27 and still hasn't been paid yet

Once that happens then that prolly goes away

He's getting paid this offseason that's a fact. Some players are just more worried about their stats than they should be.

One injury could change that tho , so it's prolly in his mind

naps
11-21-2015, 04:05 PM
I can't believe how Dragic has been playing. It's like he has his life set with the 80+ mill deal he just got and decided not to take it seriously anymore. But I am still holding my hopes up that he will eventually figure this thing out. I am telling myself it's early in the season and I don't wanna give up on him yet. Damn, I sound too optimistic lol. Can't believe we gave up 2 firsts for him wow. But when the trade was made it looked like the right move for us. Imagine how Riley is feeling right now. Makes you realize GM/president of a franchise is not an easy position to be in.

Mr. Baller
11-21-2015, 04:25 PM
The thing with Dragic is he is missing all easy shots. Its not like he isn't getting the good looks.

WaDe03
11-21-2015, 04:37 PM
Yea he's missed multiple lay ups and you're just like wtf. He needs to get it together though. There's no way he stays here if he's playing like this unless were the 1st or 2nd seed or something which we almost are right now.

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 04:54 PM
Hopefully Whiteside treats the Okafor match up like he treated the towns match up the other night

SteBO
11-21-2015, 06:05 PM
Dragic WILL get it together.....he's way too good a player not to.

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 07:51 PM
Dragic WILL get it together.....he's way too good a player not to.

Hopefully

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:14 PM
Whiteside in the first couple possessions

Low post score

Double teamed getting a wide open Deng for 3

Blocked Okafor's first attempt

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:15 PM
Wade just air balled a jumper from the free throw line...

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:16 PM
Dragic ****ing sucks

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:19 PM
Winslow 3!

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:36 PM
Okafor just put a nice move on Mcroberts lol

SteBO
11-21-2015, 09:39 PM
This team really makes me loathe them sometimes...this start is inexcusable.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 09:41 PM
The bench has a combined +/- of -47 in about 4 minutes time. Welp.

Wade n Fade
11-21-2015, 09:42 PM
This is ridiculous. I don't want to lose to the 76ers, but it looks like it will happen. Cannot make a basket. And all these stupid fouls on our end.

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:42 PM
76ers on a 20-4 run lol

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 09:43 PM
This is ridiculous. I don't want to lose to the 76ers, but it looks like it will happen. Cannot make a basket. And all these stupid fouls on our end.

It's not close to happening yet lol


This is embarrassing for sure but no way it's over yet

archdevil84
11-21-2015, 09:58 PM
we ****ig gotta match up. god damn. haha love it wade

archdevil84
11-21-2015, 10:01 PM
wade the only one showing up so far

archdevil84
11-21-2015, 10:09 PM
jesus christ on offense EVERYTHING is up to wade. is he's not in the game theres nothing and i mean NOTHING

archdevil84
11-21-2015, 10:11 PM
pretty impressive stat for whiteside

Slug3
11-21-2015, 10:15 PM
I mean this game and the minny game and even Sacramento without cousins shows what type of team we are. We always seem to think we are a top team in the eat, but sorry we are a middle to end of the playoff team. We don't put teams away we should clearly be beating.

Slug3
11-21-2015, 10:18 PM
Also I'm ready to move on from dragic like yesterday and Bosh is getting up there. No way guys should be making this type of money to put up this type of performance. Bosh is getting paid 20+ million and he cannot have crappy games like this. It's like 2 in a week now.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 10:21 PM
Without Wade they'd be up 30 easy. I know UD going off on em right now

Slug3
11-21-2015, 10:24 PM
Without Wade they'd be up 30 easy. I know UD going off on em right now

It shouldn't even come to that. We are playing one of the worst teams in the NBA and we look worse.

AllBall
11-21-2015, 10:29 PM
Was asleep, woke up, turn on TV, down by 15 to 76ers at half. WTF?

Ummm, let Green keep shooting 3's and get out of his shooting slump this game and hope for a win???

Bring out UD, Birdman and Udrih??? Hell if no one else is doing it, might as well let them have at it.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 10:34 PM
LOL a combined whopping 15 points in the half for everyone on the team not named Dwyane Wade.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 10:36 PM
I just don't understand why they don't just start games like this. Why does it always take a smack to the face in the first half. It's ridiculous

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 10:36 PM
It shouldn't even come to that. We are playing one of the worst teams in the NBA and we look worse.

couldn't agree more.

Slug3
11-21-2015, 10:41 PM
couldn't agree more.

This was a 7 game home stand that we probably should have went 7-0 and put us in good position. Sigh.

AllBall
11-21-2015, 10:49 PM
Crap, Bosh gets a tech...I like the anger since I was wondering if this team even gives a damn, but now Winslow comes back in and lets face it folks, as a rook he's a turnover machine.

Slug3
11-21-2015, 10:53 PM
Crap, Bosh gets a tech...I like the anger since I was wondering if this team even gives a damn, but now Winslow comes back in and lets face it folks, as a rook he's a turnover machine.

Yeah I noticed that as well. It looks like he's so indecisive and it causes him to throw it away a lot or travel. I have not seen someone get called for traveling as much as he has so far.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 10:59 PM
Crap, Bosh gets a tech...I like the anger since I was wondering if this team even gives a damn, but now Winslow comes back in and lets face it folks, as a rook he's a turnover machine.

Lol just got done saying that myself. I love his effort, but damn he just cant hold on to the ball and makes some dumb plays. He will adjust I'm sure but it's just costing them.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:00 PM
Yeah I noticed that as well. It looks like he's so indecisive and it causes him to throw it away a lot or travel. I have not seen someone get called for traveling as much as he has so far.

Don't forget his out of bound TOs. He has had too many of those already.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:02 PM
Green has just been useless

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 11:07 PM
Chalmers' energy is really giving us a boost tonight...oh wait

Slug3
11-21-2015, 11:09 PM
I honestly think we should look to trade dragic by the trade deadline. Now I wish we would have lost out on signing him.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:13 PM
Hit a damn ft

AllBall
11-21-2015, 11:14 PM
Chalmers' energy is really giving us a boost tonight...oh wait

Uldrich did a good job

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 11:14 PM
In the bonus with 7:40 left.

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:16 PM
Green would finally hit a 3 when it dont matter

Slug3
11-21-2015, 11:16 PM
Here we go again with all these missed FTs. At what point do we as a team start to work on this?

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 11:16 PM
Uldrich did a good job

Which Nordic variation is that?

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:20 PM
Winslow couldn't believe he made that ****. Face said it all

Slug3
11-21-2015, 11:20 PM
I'm sorry but if Winslow can't stop turning it over and can't make FTs we might have to reduce his role.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 11:21 PM
Atta boy

AllBall
11-21-2015, 11:23 PM
Which Nordic variation is that?

No idea, I think I spelled it like I say it :laugh2:

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 11:27 PM
Whiteside almost with another triple double but holy ****

Why is this team so asleep?

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:30 PM
We should've already took the lead 3 stops in a row and nothing to show

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 11:32 PM
No idea, I think I spelled it like I say it :laugh2:

haha.

Despite how Dragic is getting trashed right now, he's +17 right now.

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 11:32 PM
Wow we are terrible with free throws

AllBall
11-21-2015, 11:33 PM
Right on cue, Winslow shuffle travel :facepalm:

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:34 PM
Winslow wtf you shouldve passed once Wade cut

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 11:37 PM
This hack a Shaq **** is hurting the game , this is so boring

Even with Whiteside hitting these , it's so boring

Hardaway Here
11-21-2015, 11:38 PM
Making up for that TO good **** Winslow

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 11:40 PM
Why did Whiteside get taken out ? He's hitting his free throws better then everyone else on the team...the **** makes no sense

AllBall
11-21-2015, 11:42 PM
Making up for that TO good **** Winslow

I think Winslow has officially taken on the Rio role, frustrating turnovers combined with excellent plays.

Slug3
11-21-2015, 11:43 PM
Right on cue, Winslow shuffle travel :facepalm:

It's crazy how often he does it. We are 12 games into the season and he had yet to figure it out.

Slug3
11-21-2015, 11:44 PM
Gerald green and his high power 3 point shooting. And his only points are from FTs. Lol

Slug3
11-21-2015, 11:46 PM
Boy we did all we could go lose that game.

HandsOnTheWheel
11-21-2015, 11:48 PM
Good teams find ways to win games, no matter the circumstances.

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 11:51 PM
Ultimate sleeper game

hotdalton18
11-21-2015, 11:55 PM
Gerald green with defensive energy is something I like !

AllBall
11-21-2015, 11:55 PM
Good teams find ways to win games, no matter the circumstances.

Wade found a way to lead us to a win, let's be real. It's true what Wade referred to at the end...outside of Wade, Bosh and Deng this team's core does not have the experience of winning at the highest level of the NBA.

hotdalton18
11-22-2015, 12:01 AM
Good teams find ways to win games, no matter the circumstances.

Wade found a way to lead us to a win, let's be real. It's true what Wade referred to at the end...outside of Wade, Bosh and Deng this team's core does not have the experience of winning at the highest level of the NBA.

Yep

Looks like this is the Wade we will have the rest of the year


Great/terrible/great/terrible lol

SteBO
11-22-2015, 12:01 AM
Obviously satisfied with the win....but boy are we not in sinc. We go through these awful stretches on offense, and the only reason we stay in the game is because our defense holds up its end. We're fortunate PHI doesn't have the talent to close out games like these.....play like this against the Knicks and we're gonna lose. That said, there were some good....

1) Winslow really looked like a rookie tonight, but his mental fortitude to overcome his mistakes was great to watch. He had a huge three-point play, caught a lob from Wade, and had a huge tip-in to pretty much seal the deal.

2) Whiteside's made his FT's when PHI pulled the ***** move out.

3) Wade was awesome all night long.

4) Despite Bosh being a no-show for most the game, he made the big shot to tie it up, rebounded the ball, and defended the paint well.

Still waiting for Goran to introduce himself and for the bench to be more consistent. Seriously, Isiah ****ing Canaan & Covington tore them apart.

SteBO
11-22-2015, 12:02 AM
Oh and Gerald Green's late game defense was nice to see.

hotdalton18
11-22-2015, 12:14 AM
5-1 in the last 6

Wade came to play tonight n was huge

Bosh was solid

Whiteside is clearly the best blocking big in the league...if he would of played the 4th he would of had another triple double...n he's 8-10 the last 2 games when teams try to hack a Shaq him

Winslow was messing up a lot but also came up with some huge plays in the clutch...good to see from a 20 year old

Tyler Johnson needs to shoot more when he's on the floor

Loved greens energy in the 4th

AllBall
11-22-2015, 12:18 AM
Yo bro, Winslow is 19...you're 4 months early. :laugh2:

hotdalton18
11-22-2015, 12:53 AM
Yo bro, Winslow is 19...you're 4 months early. :laugh2:

Oh **** lol

WaDe03
11-22-2015, 01:49 AM
Thank God for Wade! He's clearly our best player. I love the way he played the first 5 games and these last 2 and I think he'll keep it up because he sees that's what this team needs. He looks great Heath wise.

Whiteside had a good game and other than that that's about it.

Bosh has to be more consistent and dragic has to be traded if he isn't better by the deadline.

Deng hurt so I wonder who will start next game if he's out. I would guess Winslow or someone is going to get cooked by Melo. We better come out ready to play against the Knicks or its over. Melo is in a groove and Kristaps is probably going to end up being rookie of the year and is playing great.

hotdalton18
11-22-2015, 02:56 AM
Thank God for Wade! He's clearly our best player. I love the way he played the first 5 games and these last 2 and I think he'll keep it up because he sees that's what this team needs. He looks great Heath wise.

Whiteside had a good game and other than that that's about it.

Bosh has to be more consistent and dragic has to be traded if he isn't better by the deadline.

Deng hurt so I wonder who will start next game if he's out. I would guess Winslow or someone is going to get cooked by Melo. We better come out ready to play against the Knicks or its over. Melo is in a groove and Kristaps is probably going to end up being rookie of the year and is playing great.

I hope Wade stays this way to but there's no reason to believe he will...he's the end of last years Wade...sometimes he's gonna be great and sometimes he's gonna be terrible

The 4 game stretch he had that was terrible wasn't just random

Hopefully he's rested and ready to go when it's playoff time

WaDe03
11-22-2015, 03:34 AM
I hope Wade stays this way to but there's no reason to believe he will...he's the end of last years Wade...sometimes he's gonna be great and sometimes he's gonna be terrible

The 4 game stretch he had that was terrible wasn't just random

Hopefully he's rested and ready to go when it's playoff time

Nah.

Dade County
11-22-2015, 11:12 AM
I mean this game and the minny game and even Sacramento without cousins shows what type of team we are. We always seem to think we are a top team in the eat, but sorry we are a middle to end of the playoff team. We don't put teams away we should clearly be beating.

Its going to be hard, but try not to be fooled; lots of fans of teams are going through this right now.

I think the leauge agenda right now, is to give the illusion of parity somewhat (& ofcourse the same old gambling).

Miami right now is the 2nd or 3rd best team in the East, even though their performance isn't notting to brag about.

Some nights they will play up to their capabilities, & other nights they will look like everyone isnt on the same page (which is a lie).

From what i am noticing, Miami should have only one lost so far. Atl, Pacers & Minny losses are all crap.

justinnum1
11-22-2015, 01:08 PM
I agree, it's just sort of asinine the thought of giving up 2 first round picks for George Hill.

Would love to ask riley what he was thinking when he wanted dragic.

hotdalton18
11-22-2015, 03:11 PM
Are you guys on crack??

Do you not get NBA chemistry?

This is a good team

Remember when bron first came here or how the cavs looked at the beginning of last year?


We have to build chemistry , that will take about half a season with everyone healthy...

So it's gonna be up and down until then

So the fact that we're 5-1 in the last 6 is awesome

Wait till we have full chemistry