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beasted86
11-07-2015, 10:19 PM
11/08 - 11/14 Schedule:
NOTE: ALL TIMES EASTERN


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Miami HEAT vs. Toronto Raptors
Sunday, Nov 08, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
6:00pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun


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Miami HEAT vs. Los Angeles Lakers
Tuesday, Nov 10, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
7:30pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun


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Miami HEAT vs. Utah Jazz
Thursday, Nov 12, 2015
AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
7:30pmET
Season Series: 0-0
TV: Fox Sports Sun

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 12:08 AM
Hate to jinx it but if this team is serious this should be a 3-0 week.

archdevil84
11-08-2015, 11:18 AM
Hate to jinx it but if this team is serious this should be a 3-0 week.

i agree. only serious challenge are the raptors and for some reason i think our team should match up pretty wel against them

beasted86
11-08-2015, 01:20 PM
Hear me out.. This might seem like a knee jerk reaction.. But if Dragic doesn't get it together soon, I think they should consider trading HIM, rather than Deng, Whiteside, or other suggestions I've been hearing lately.

We have to accept we're just not a "shooting/uptempo team". We have to be a defensive, half court team. It's what suits our personnel both short term 1-2 years and also mid term next 5 years considering Whiteside and Winslow into the fold.

With that said, I'd consider a Dragic for Jrue Holiday swap. Holiday has been the better long range shooter, has defensive discipline and is 4 years younger. I feel like NO would consider it because he would probably be a better fit there pushing the tempo out west with Davis and Ryan Andersen as the bigs and Tyreke Evans and Gordon able to run with him.

For us, if Holiday can work past his recent injury prone streak, he would be able to be a defensive PG adding to the group of Whiteside, Winslow and Deng. He also make $11M which would be 3-4M less than Dragic and give us more flexibility in the summer time to add free agents. But there remains the injury risk which is why I'd be hesitant.

beasted86
11-08-2015, 01:28 PM
When you look at Dragic's numbers it doesn't look like he's been bad...

12.5ppg, 4.3ast, 48%fg, 42%3PT.

But he's just been very passive, and the units that include him have not been efficient for us, and have been poor defensively.

I'm not sure how to get him going or mask his defense playing next to Wade who has fallen off defensively.

justinnum1
11-08-2015, 01:52 PM
When you look at Dragic's numbers it doesn't look like he's been bad...

12.5ppg, 4.3ast, 48%fg, 42%3PT.

But he's just been very passive, and the units that include him have not been efficient for us, and have been poor defensively.

I'm not sure how to get him going or mask his defense playing next to Wade who has fallen off defensively.

how many turnovers?

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 02:53 PM
Hear me out.. This might seem like a knee jerk reaction.. But if Dragic doesn't get it together soon, I think they should consider trading HIM, rather than Deng, Whiteside, or other suggestions I've been hearing lately.

We have to accept we're just not a "shooting/uptempo team". We have to be a defensive, half court team. It's what suits our personnel both short term 1-2 years and also mid term next 5 years considering Whiteside and Winslow into the fold.

With that said, I'd consider a Dragic for Jrue Holiday swap. Holiday has been the better long range shooter, has defensive discipline and is 4 years younger. I feel like NO would consider it because he would probably be a better fit there pushing the tempo out west with Davis and Ryan Andersen as the bigs and Tyreke Evans and Gordon able to run with him.

For us, if Holiday can work past his recent injury prone streak, he would be able to be a defensive PG adding to the group of Whiteside, Winslow and Deng. He also make $11M which would be 3-4M less than Dragic and give us more flexibility in the summer time to add free agents. But there remains the injury risk which is why I'd be hesitant.

I agree he definitely may be on the block. Disagree with Jrue though I definitely wouldn't want him I feel like he's out as much as Rose. He was definitely a good player and 3 and D would be awesome just not from him in my opinion. I wouldn't be opposed to a 3 and D wing player for Dragic and slide Wade to the PG since he's better with the ball in his hands and so is our team. The new 3 and D could guard opposing PGs so we wouldn't have to worry about Wade chasing them all the time. I don't see why this would be a problem since he basically plays PG for us as it is.

beasted86
11-08-2015, 04:17 PM
I agree he definitely may be on the block. Disagree with Jrue though I definitely wouldn't want him I feel like he's out as much as Rose. He was definitely a good player and 3 and D would be awesome just not from him in my opinion. I wouldn't be opposed to a 3 and D wing player for Dragic and slide Wade to the PG since he's better with the ball in his hands and so is our team. The new 3 and D could guard opposing PGs so we wouldn't have to worry about Wade chasing them all the time. I don't see why this would be a problem since he basically plays PG for us as it is.

It's been the same injury though for Holiday. Maybe now it's finally healed since they removed a rod from his leg now. He would have to prove beyond all doubt that he's past injury problems before considering trading for him.

beasted86
11-08-2015, 04:18 PM
how many turnovers?

2.3

That's not a terrible number either.

beasted86
11-08-2015, 04:23 PM
Either way it's on Spoelstra to get Dragic more involved in the offense if it's for the better of the team. Even if that means upsetting Wade.

He was the one talking about how he wants the team playing at a high pace, and here we are 6 games in ranked 27 in pace. It leads you to believe he doesn't have a handle on the team regardless of what you think of him as a coach otherwise.

beasted86
11-08-2015, 04:29 PM
The average age of the Clippers team is higher than the HEAT, yet they play at a much faster pace.

If DJ and Blake and old 35+ vets like Crawford and Pierce can get up and down the court, the HEAT should have no issue with Whiteside, Deng and anyone else trying to slow things down. If Spo really presses the urgency to play that style and puts the ball in Dragic's hands we might be more efficient.

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 05:43 PM
It's been the same injury though for Holiday. Maybe now it's finally healed since they removed a rod from his leg now. He would have to prove beyond all doubt that he's past injury problems before considering trading for him.

True I'm not sure but I think he's been held out some game this year and is on a minutes restriction.

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 05:45 PM
Wtf is the deal with Green? He was arguably the steal of the offseason, 6MOY candidate and the guy who took our offense and bench to the next level and best shooter. They won't give an update on anything.

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 05:47 PM
Carroll is out tonight. No excuse for a loss on our home court especially after that embarrassing terrible loss to the Pacers. Let's show tonight that this team is an actual threat.

archdevil84
11-08-2015, 07:10 PM
no offense to anyone but i dont realy like those jerseys

All-In
11-08-2015, 07:13 PM
no offense to anyone but i dont realy like those jerseys

None taken.....there god awful

archdevil84
11-08-2015, 07:19 PM
damn no matter how many players are near the basket. somehow wade always gets the ball to whiteside and somehow it always ends up in an and one for whiteside

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 07:27 PM
Whiteside is scoring all of our points

Let's blame him for us being down !

archdevil84
11-08-2015, 07:28 PM
wade looking good offensively, bad defensively

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 07:28 PM
Jerseys suck. Our interior D has been lousy. We need to start hitting those open J's so annoying when everyone missing but Wade

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 07:29 PM
Point blank shots for everyone smh.

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 07:30 PM
Whiteside is scoring all of our points

Let's blame him for us being down !

2 blocks as well but no reason he should be getting killed by Jonas and giving up point blank shots.

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 07:46 PM
Rio feeling himself a lil bit. Body language

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 07:48 PM
Chalmers and TJ putting in work

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 07:55 PM
Tyler Johnson has so much potential

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 07:56 PM
One of the issues with Whiteside covering his man is he has to help on all of our other players crap defense

Which leaves his man open

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 07:56 PM
And yeah those jerseys are ugly af

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 07:59 PM
Wade completely ruined the offense when he came back in

archdevil84
11-08-2015, 08:00 PM
i hate that foul wade drew. BS call. reminds me of harden. ugh

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 08:03 PM
Wade has been terrible at free throws since he was 24/24

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 08:04 PM
Bosh playing scared

archdevil84
11-08-2015, 08:04 PM
justice winslow is SO good. seriously

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 08:05 PM
Wtf Wade started the season great and has been terrible since.

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 08:07 PM
justice winslow is SO good. seriously

He really is

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 08:10 PM
Wtf Wade started the season great and has been terrible since.

Looks like end of last years Wade that would regularly go 6/22

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 08:15 PM
Starting unit is terrible.

Slug3
11-08-2015, 08:18 PM
Dragic needs to go. He doesn't fit in at all.

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 08:22 PM
Bosh starting out good

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 08:23 PM
Bosh stopped playing like a ***** finally

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 08:23 PM
Whiteside with a nice steal

Then got fouled on the other side!

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 08:26 PM
Whiteside beasting, omg he's a monster

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 08:36 PM
I'm loving Whiteside & Winslow

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 08:58 PM
I'd really like to see Johnson, Winslow and Whiteside on the floor together more

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 09:07 PM
DeRozan can't do **** against Winslow

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 09:08 PM
Bosh is on

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 09:09 PM
Wade and Whiteside don't even have to come back in cause the bench and bosh are killing

Winslow is a stud

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 09:09 PM
Bosh is on from 3

Hardaway Here
11-08-2015, 09:09 PM
Bosh earning his check for this game

WaDe03
11-08-2015, 09:15 PM
Wish Wade would've hit more shots but I'll take a blowout W with him not even playing that good. That's a good sign. Wade and Whiteside started the run and then the bench finished it. On to the next one I hope to see this same effort Tuesday from the get go.

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 09:16 PM
Blowout win and guess what?

Dragic and Deng weren't apart of it

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 09:17 PM
No way we keep Dragic over Whiteside if it comes down to that

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 09:18 PM
Why put Whiteside back in with the 3rd stringers?

Just to get hurt?

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 09:29 PM
This is how this team will look on the regular once it gets full Chemistry

SteBO
11-08-2015, 09:46 PM
I was worried about the defense...but wow has it been pretty impressive, especially in the second half of games.

justinnum1
11-08-2015, 10:14 PM
great win. worried about green coming back and taking tj's minutes

if dragic ever stops looking like trash, we might be contenders

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 10:33 PM
great win. worried about green coming back and taking tj's minutes

if dragic ever stops looking like trash, we might be contenders

If green comes back n takes minutes it better be chalmers

TJ has proved he needs to get serious minutes

AllBall
11-08-2015, 10:58 PM
My thoughts on this game:

-Good win, lets see if we can string 2 wins in a row for the first time this season
-The uniforms sort of grew on me, still prefer the home whites
-Thank you New York for gifting us Winslow, lol, just l-o-f'n-l
-McBob is earning his stay now 2 games in a row
-Dragic is playing his way to the trade block, I think even Deng is safer than him at this point considering there's more pressure on the PG
-It's good that the second unit has learned to play without Green and be a spark
-I would like to see Bosh get of to better starts
-I would like to see Whiteside stop falling asleep on defense
-With the other units doing solid, its beneficial so we can rest Wade. We need to manage his minutes and keep him fresh for the playoffs
-Laughing at Wade's new squish the bug shoe dance when the dagger shot comes

All-In
11-08-2015, 11:03 PM
The Bosh-McBob-Winslow-Rio-TJ lineup killed tonight.....it was very good defensively, Great game by McBob, lets see if he can string some good games together and if he becomes this consistently good he deserves more frontcourt minutes

Winslow needs to improve offensively, he needs to be more confident with his handle and his shot, hes a 19yr old rookie so its going to take time, as long as he keeps his fg% efficient he should steadily improve to be a great 2-way player

hotdalton18
11-08-2015, 11:53 PM
The Drummond vs Whiteside match ups are gonna be fun this year

Those 2 look like the top Centers to this point

beasted86
11-09-2015, 02:17 AM
The units with Chalmers-Johnson-Winslow have been great all season defensively.

They seem to just be all over the floor defensively and on the boards.

WaDe03
11-09-2015, 10:55 AM
Start Winslow his defense in the first unit will be what gets them going and gets them big leads to start the game. Deng can take more shots in the 2nd unit. I guess it doesn't really matter though since Winslow plays 30+ minutes anyways.

beasted86
11-09-2015, 11:05 AM
Based on the seesaw win-a-game, lose-a-game trend to this season so far, I should expect a loss to the Lakers which would be the absolute pits.

There's no way they should lose to that sucky team. Wade and Dragic need to dominate whoever is defending them, they have a clear advantage all night long.

justinnum1
11-09-2015, 11:48 AM
Based on the seesaw win-a-game, lose-a-game trend to this season so far, I should expect a loss to the Lakers which would be the absolute pits.

There's no way they should lose to that sucky team. Wade and Dragic need to dominate whoever is defending them, they have a clear advantage all night long.

wade is 34 and he will be good some games and bad others. he thinks he is kobe out there and chucks 20footers lol.

dragic, the supposed all star we spent 2 future firsts to get is the guy who needs to start showing up. if dragic was benched and rio started for him, we would have a better record right now, i am 100% certain of that. at some point dragic needs to start playing like the max player we thought we were getting or it will end up being one of the worst deals of all time. why pat ever thought wade and dragic would be a good fit is beyond me tho.

Mr. Baller
11-09-2015, 11:54 AM
We need to go on a winning streak right here. Every single game for the rest of the homestand is against a team we should beat. This is the easiest the schedule is gonna be for us and we need to take advantage

hotdalton18
11-09-2015, 02:45 PM
Lakers should be a 20 point win...there awful

WaDe03
11-09-2015, 04:21 PM
Big games from Wade and Dragic tomorrow night.

hotdalton18
11-09-2015, 09:07 PM
Big games from Wade and Dragic tomorrow night.

Idk about Dragic

But I'm thinking Wade will be motivated playing against Kobe

hotdalton18
11-09-2015, 11:21 PM
It sucks we could of gotten Reggie Jackson for less then Dragic

He is younger and actually plays defense

Mr. Baller
11-09-2015, 11:41 PM
It sucks we could of gotten Reggie Jackson for less then Dragic

He is younger and actually plays defense

He was restricted. Detroit would've matched

hotdalton18
11-09-2015, 11:52 PM
It sucks we could of gotten Reggie Jackson for less then Dragic

He is younger and actually plays defense

He was restricted. Detroit would've matched


No I'm saying we sent more to phx for Dragic then DET sent to okc for Jackson

N Jackson looks like the better player and is significantly younger

AllBall
11-10-2015, 12:51 AM
No I'm saying we sent more to phx for Dragic then DET sent to okc for Jackson

N Jackson looks like the better player and is significantly younger

Yes, but Detroit was able to offer something to Reggie that the HEAT and OKC couldn't...the opportunity to be "the man" on the team, which is what he wanted.

AllBall
11-10-2015, 01:11 AM
I'm thinking about Gerald Green. I know I shouldn't speculate, but I'm going to put my thoughts out there anyways. Its either one of the following:

A. If it was a drug related issue, I think it would have been disclosed. The league has a drug policy and they would have imposed a monetary fine and game penalty. So I don't think its that. Unless, the team somehow is currently doing an internal suspension and just listing him as "out" as to not draw media attention.

B. It may be that Green suffers from some sort of mental illness like depression and put himself in danger. This would explain the bleeding when he was found unconscious and Mario staying back for "support". Found this old article on Green, he went through some rough things:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/2/25/8100963/gerald-green-phoenix-suns-story-dunks


C. It could be he has a medical condition that caused him to bleed and pass out, but not life threatening (like Bosh's blood clot incident) and not something that would cause significant amount of time away. That would be the best case scenario.

Also, it would be difficult to move Dragic as he is the reason Green came to Miami. Then again we moved Zoran, so who knows.

Dade County
11-10-2015, 09:06 AM
The match ups I am interested in are Tyler Johnson playing against Clarkson & Russell.

I want to see how he matches up in their 1 on 1 battles. Even though Tj comes off the bench for Miami, I want to see if he can win those battles against Russell & Clarkson.

Also, I would like Whiteside to do in Hibbert tonight, and Winslow to check Kobe from time to time.

justinnum1
11-10-2015, 09:59 AM
I'm thinking about Gerald Green. I know I shouldn't speculate, but I'm going to put my thoughts out there anyways. Its either one of the following:

A. If it was a drug related issue, I think it would have been disclosed. The league has a drug policy and they would have imposed a monetary fine and game penalty. So I don't think its that. Unless, the team somehow is currently doing an internal suspension and just listing him as "out" as to not draw media attention.

B. It may be that Green suffers from some sort of mental illness like depression and put himself in danger. This would explain the bleeding when he was found unconscious and Mario staying back for "support". Found this old article on Green, he went through some rough things:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/2/25/8100963/gerald-green-phoenix-suns-story-dunks


C. It could be he has a medical condition that caused him to bleed and pass out, but not life threatening (like Bosh's blood clot incident) and not something that would cause significant amount of time away. That would be the best case scenario.

Also, it would be difficult to move Dragic as he is the reason Green came to Miami. Then again we moved Zoran, so who knows.

I hope he is ok, but i think we are better team without him. Anyone really want gerald green taking minutes from TJ? rio has been playing well. Let him take minutes from that guy we paid 85mil for and gave up 2 firsts but is playing like some backup scrub.

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 10:53 AM
Whiteside can Hibbert and Wade vs Kobe

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 10:54 AM
I'm thinking about Gerald Green. I know I shouldn't speculate, but I'm going to put my thoughts out there anyways. Its either one of the following:

A. If it was a drug related issue, I think it would have been disclosed. The league has a drug policy and they would have imposed a monetary fine and game penalty. So I don't think its that. Unless, the team somehow is currently doing an internal suspension and just listing him as "out" as to not draw media attention.

B. It may be that Green suffers from some sort of mental illness like depression and put himself in danger. This would explain the bleeding when he was found unconscious and Mario staying back for "support". Found this old article on Green, he went through some rough things:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/2/25/8100963/gerald-green-phoenix-suns-story-dunks


C. It could be he has a medical condition that caused him to bleed and pass out, but not life threatening (like Bosh's blood clot incident) and not something that would cause significant amount of time away. That would be the best case scenario.

Also, it would be difficult to move Dragic as he is the reason Green came to Miami. Then again we moved Zoran, so who knows.

I hope he is ok, but i think we are better team without him. Anyone really want gerald green taking minutes from TJ? rio has been playing well. Let him take minutes from that guy we paid 85mil for and gave up 2 firsts but is playing like some backup scrub.

No TJ

If anything take rios minutes cause he's just as up and down as green is

justinnum1
11-10-2015, 10:59 AM
No TJ

If anything take rios minutes cause he's just as up and down as green is

at least rio will get some steals and make some nice passes. green is a black hole shooting under 40% and is more likely to lose you a game than win you one. there is a reason he is making the vet min...

and i'm not a rio fan, but green does not play winning bb. he is a cheap nick young. someone that will get hot ever few games but most the time he is out there he is not making winning plays.

Mr. Baller
11-10-2015, 11:31 AM
Dragic should have a nice game tonight, the Lakers point guard defense is atrocious. They made Jose Calderon look good recently.

AllBall
11-10-2015, 11:39 AM
I hope he is ok, but i think we are better team without him. Anyone really want gerald green taking minutes from TJ? rio has been playing well. Let him take minutes from that guy we paid 85mil for and gave up 2 firsts but is playing like some backup scrub.

I wonder how it would be if we did the following:

TJ/Dragic
Wade/Mario
Green/Winslow
Bosh/McRoberts
Whiteside/*somebody

*Spo seems to be rotating 9 guys, and alternates with Bosh/Whiteside on second unit and goes to Birdman/Amare only if really needed. I suppose Deng could be thrown in every once in a while.

justinnum1
11-10-2015, 11:47 AM
I wonder how it would be if we did the following:

TJ/Dragic
Wade/Mario
Green/Winslow
Bosh/McRoberts
Whiteside/*somebody

*Spo seems to be rotating 9 guys, and alternates with Bosh/Whiteside on second unit and goes to Birdman/Amare only if really needed. I suppose Deng could be thrown in every once in a while.

No to any lineup that gives green more minutes. deng is awful but green starting would make us worse. you win by playing team ball, spurs, warriors...they pass the ball and find open players. green just tries to fill his stats. rather limit green to under 10min and play tj a lot more. also start seeing what jrish can do. look to package deng and green for a shooting sf.

i hope amare never plays another minute in a heat uni, he is that terrible.
bob is starting to look good.

pull dragic and bosh early for winslow and tj and stagger the minutes

AllBall
11-10-2015, 02:20 PM
It would be interesting to see if TJ had more minutes, but I'm not sure he is ready to carry that assignment. I compare him to Winslow who I have complete confidence in taking on any tasks, and he has actually played 30+ minute games. TJ has improved slightly in his FG% and 3P% from last year (small sample size, I know), with the same amount of minutes played.

Mr. Baller
11-10-2015, 02:39 PM
Well TJ will get more minutes tonight with no Chalmers or Green I would imagine.

justinnum1
11-10-2015, 02:46 PM
Well TJ will get more minutes tonight with no Chalmers or Green I would imagine.

Tj will be getting a lot of minutes. Jrich will probably see the court, excited about that.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 02:47 PM
I disagree with the hate for Green on here. He's our best shooter and could come out and give us 20 on any night.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 02:48 PM
Green is one of those guys who could check in during a tie game and by the time he checks out well have a double digit lead because he went off and we got some stops as well.

AllBall
11-10-2015, 02:51 PM
Tj will be getting a lot of minutes. Jrich will probably see the court, excited about that.

The only time I've noticed Jrich is when he is making obvious rookie mistakes, I'll try and pay more attention to see what his potential is.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 02:56 PM
The only time I've noticed Jrich is when he is making obvious rookie mistakes, I'll try and pay more attention to see what his potential is.

Yea I haven't really seen anything from him that tells me he should be getting playing time yet.

beasted86
11-10-2015, 03:17 PM
Richardson's outside shot needs a lot of work. I like his defensive aggressiveness, but I don't think he can be a rotation player on a playoff team. Its possible he proves me wrong though.

Based on preseason, I didn't think Winslow would be playing this many minutes per game, but he's clearly a different animal in his current role and with more polished vets on the court rather than the scrubs he was seeing time with in preseason.

Dade County
11-10-2015, 04:24 PM
Rio gone lol

Its nice to see that posters are finally seeing that Deng shouldnt be starting, I've been saying this for over 4months.

And if green just drove to the basketball more, that would help out everyone.

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 04:49 PM
Tj will compete for 6th man

He deserves the minutes that he's gonna get now

archdevil84
11-10-2015, 04:52 PM
wtf they traded rio? what a dumb move. He's been a spark defensively of the bench along with TJ and winsgod

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 04:54 PM
I like Stokes

He could prolly be back up C here

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 04:54 PM
wtf they traded rio? what a dumb move. He's been a spark defensively of the bench along with TJ and winsgod

Good move

TJ needs mass minutes and now he will get those even with green coming back

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 05:20 PM
Tj will compete for 6th man

He deserves the minutes that he's gonna get now

You talking about 6MOY or 6th man on our team? He won't compete for either lol.

beasted86
11-10-2015, 07:49 PM
wtf they traded rio? what a dumb move. He's been a spark defensively of the bench along with TJ and winsgod

Yeah, but its all about money apparently. That Chalmers, Johnson, Winslow unit has brought us back to life in at least 3 games this year.

I never pegged Arison for one of those "cheap" owners who's willing to make the team worse in the name of tax savings, but clearly that's his recent trend. The Mike Miller move, dumping Napier and now this. I can't bash owners like Reinsdorf and Sarver any more because Arison is in the same boat.

I'm also not going to be one of those biased fans who rationalizes the move beyond what it really is either. They aren't trying to improve the team with this move.

beasted86
11-10-2015, 07:52 PM
Rio gone lol

Its nice to see that posters are finally seeing that Deng shouldnt be starting, I've been saying this for over 4months.

And if green just drove to the basketball more, that would help out everyone.
If Deng is moved to the bench it better be to start Winslow.

I'm not sure I can watch a starting unit with Dragic, Wade, and Green defensively. Just saying that makes me want to throw up now.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 07:55 PM
If Deng is moved to the bench it better be to start Winslow.

I'm not sure I can watch a starting unit with Dragic, Wade, and Green defensively. Just saying that makes me want to throw up now.

I think Winslow will end up starting.

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 07:58 PM
Tj will compete for 6th man

He deserves the minutes that he's gonna get now

You talking about 6MOY or 6th man on our team? He won't compete for either lol.

Our team lol

AllBall
11-10-2015, 08:35 PM
wtf they traded rio? what a dumb move. He's been a spark defensively of the bench along with TJ and winsgod


Yeah, but its all about money apparently. That Chalmers, Johnson, Winslow unit has brought us back to life in at least 3 games this year.

I never pegged Arison for one of those "cheap" owners who's willing to make the team worse in the name of tax savings, but clearly that's his recent trend. The Mike Miller move, dumping Napier and now this. I can't bash owners like Reinsdorf and Sarver any more because Arison is in the same boat.

I'm also not going to be one of those biased fans who rationalizes the move beyond what it really is either. They aren't trying to improve the team with this move.

But then again, are we just being very short sighted here? Are we choosing to ignore what has been publicly stated by the HEAT for the past 2 years? They're positioning themselves for Durant and the 2016 off season.

Top 5 NBA Highest Payroll 15-16 [source] (http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/)

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
2. Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Los Angeles Clippers
4. Miami Heat
5. Golden State Warriors

The HEAT are still the #4 highest payroll! Look at the other names on that list. The defending champs, defending ECF champs and 2 legit WCF contenders. Realistically we want to make the playoffs, and reach the ECF, but we're not quite at the level to compete with the West. There is no way we can call Arison cheap when he is paying more money for a team that has a higher payroll than 86% of the league.

archdevil84
11-10-2015, 09:17 PM
lol. bench failing hard

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 09:17 PM
****ing terrible.

archdevil84
11-10-2015, 09:23 PM
wade is playing like a real noob these last 3 games

AllBall
11-10-2015, 09:28 PM
Not such a bad first outing for Jrich if plans it to get him worked into the rotation now.

I just hope we can win 2 games in a row for the first time this season.

archdevil84
11-10-2015, 09:30 PM
holy **** were playing like absolute garbage right now

beasted86
11-10-2015, 09:36 PM
The bench killed the momentum.

AllBall
11-10-2015, 09:39 PM
The bench killed the momentum.

Nah, Swaggy P just got hot. Winslow was playing good D, but he was lighting it up.

Slug3
11-10-2015, 09:56 PM
Great teams can usually put teams like LA away. If we can't do that this second half then we need to figure out what's wrong with us.

Slug3
11-10-2015, 09:58 PM
Man as wades career starts to end, he is going to really regret not developing a jumper.

Slug3
11-10-2015, 10:03 PM
God Wade can't even guard and almost dead MWP.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 10:04 PM
Wade wtf is the deal these last 3? Looked like the best SG in the league the first 5 games.

Slug3
11-10-2015, 10:18 PM
Wade wtf is the deal these last 3? Looked like the best SG in the league the first 5 games.

He's 33/34 now. I assume we will see the best Wade on days we have 2 days rest.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 10:24 PM
He's 33/34 now. I assume we will see the best Wade on days we have 2 days rest.

I think he'll be fine just going through a rough patch. He's starting to pick it up now though. Missing easy shots tonight.

Hardaway Here
11-10-2015, 10:35 PM
This is just a good defensive unit

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 10:37 PM
Glad we're smacking teams but these no 4th quarters are ****ing up Wades stats lol.

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 11:06 PM
Glad we're smacking teams but these no 4th quarters are ****ing up Wades stats lol.

Whiteside's stats lol , Wade wasn't really doing to much anyway

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 11:12 PM
Notes :

Again Whiteside is our best player imo, dude is putting up freak numbers and he's not even playing the 4th cause the games are blow outs

TJ is as good as I thought he was...gonna get better as the season goes

Love winslows defense

Bosh had a great game and it would be nice if he could play like that more often

Wade has been hard to watch lately...his defense is terrible and lazy...and his offense has looked like the end of last season...when it was hurting not helping

Good to see Mcroberts doing what he's doing

Richardson was impressive on D tonight

Dragic is pure trash in every part of the game....can't believe we gave up what we did...Johnson is doing everything better then him

Deng and Dragic can both be moved for the better of this team

Good win tonight against a team we should win against

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 11:19 PM
Wade got hot in the 3rd and probably would've continued in the 4th. He played good tonight still he was a +23 and had 6 assists and probably would've had more.

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 11:21 PM
Wade got hot in the 3rd and probably would've continued in the 4th. He played good tonight still he was a +23 and had 6 assists and probably would've had more.

5/14 and bad defense isn't a good game

He was better then Dragic tho , who I'm starting to really hate

SteBO
11-10-2015, 11:42 PM
Dragic will figure it out fellas....no need to overreact and hate the man.

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 11:51 PM
5/14 and bad defense isn't a good game

He was better then Dragic tho , who I'm starting to really hate

6 assists and a +23 is though. We were obviously better with him on the court.

hotdalton18
11-10-2015, 11:52 PM
Dragic will figure it out fellas....no need to overreact and hate the man.

Idk

This **** looks sad

WaDe03
11-10-2015, 11:53 PM
Dragic will figure it out fellas....no need to overreact and hate the man.

I don't hate him but we would probably be better if we traded him for a 3 and D wing and another piece or 2 and put Wade at PG we would probably be better.

Mr. Baller
11-11-2015, 12:33 AM
I don't hate him but we would probably be better if we traded him for a 3 and D wing and another piece or 2 and put Wade at PG we would probably be better.

Wade at PG would be an absolute disaster

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 12:41 AM
Wade at PG would be an absolute disaster

I don't think so. He pretty much plays PG as it is and adding another 3 and D guy means he wouldn't have to guard the opposing PG all game. He's easily our best playmaker.

AllBall
11-11-2015, 01:03 AM
Dragic will figure it out fellas....no need to overreact and hate the man.

I don't know man, I was harsh on McBob to figure it out a few games ago and he already has...and he was coming off an injury and not having played last season! I'm giving Dragic the same deadline, Dec. 1st or we'll send you away. Even Deng is doing more by hitting his 3's at least!

Dade County
11-11-2015, 02:58 AM
Good win for miami & they got to rest Wade again... Whiteside will learn that he shouldnt get upset that he doesnt get to play when we have the game in hand.

Mr. Baller
11-11-2015, 10:03 AM
I don't think so. He pretty much plays PG as it is and adding another 3 and D guy means he wouldn't have to guard the opposing PG all game. He's easily our best playmaker.

He can't guard opposing point guard at all anymore.

Slug3
11-11-2015, 10:27 AM
I don't think so. He pretty much plays PG as it is and adding another 3 and D guy means he wouldn't have to guard the opposing PG all game. He's easily our best playmaker.

I think its more because he wont be able to at all guard the other PG in games and would get killed on the defensive end. He was struggling to keep up with Meta last night.

justinnum1
11-11-2015, 10:45 AM
I don't know man, I was harsh on McBob to figure it out a few games ago and he already has...and he was coming off an injury and not having played last season! I'm giving Dragic the same deadline, Dec. 1st or we'll send you away. Even Deng is doing more by hitting his 3's at least!

we used 2 first rounders to get him lol. we are not sending him anywhere. we are stuck with him. just pray he gets better. pat was high off his *** when he made that deal. bad fit to start and now he plays worse than most backups

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 11:57 AM
He wouldn't guard the opposing PG it would be the 3 and D guard we get for Dragic. It's not like Dragic guards them any better.

king james
11-11-2015, 01:06 PM
Dragic isn't going anywhere. You have to remember that this is the 1st year that he hasn't played for his country over the summer which he said usually gets him prepared to hit the ground running when the NBA season arrives.

So give him a break and stop crying about him struggling. We are looking really good for a team that's practically new. We have a easy start to the season as far as our scheduling, where we can rack up some wins which will help our team become more cohesive. So let's just chill a little bit.

Also I find it strange how a lot of people are saying how they are mad that we got rid of Rio, Napier and some other guys. When I have heard some of the same guys talk about how they would trade him for a stick of gum. I'm not understanding this.

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 01:22 PM
2-0 on the week and I hope to be 3-0 after tomorrow night. I'd like to see Wade get back on track and Whiteside dominate Rudy Gobert who I think is very overrated. They beat us in Miami last year when Wade had 40+ so let's make sure and get payback tomorrow night.

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 01:47 PM
Rudy Gobert is listed as questionable tomorrow night.

Mr. Baller
11-11-2015, 02:25 PM
2-0 on the week and I hope to be 3-0 after tomorrow night. I'd like to see Wade get back on track and Whiteside dominate Rudy Gobert who I think is very overrated. They beat us in Miami last year when Wade had 40+ so let's make sure and get payback tomorrow night.

On what planet is Gobert overrated?

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 02:41 PM
On what planet is Gobert overrated?

Earth obviously. I see people overhyping him all the time and also claim that he's better than Whiteside. He's good just not as good and some people seem to think.

Mr. Baller
11-11-2015, 02:50 PM
Earth obviously. I see people overhyping him all the time and also claim that he's better than Whiteside. He's good just not as good and some people seem to think.

Coming into the year it could be debated who was better considering Whiteside was on a 50 game sample and showed a lot of immaturity. Gobert is an absolute defensive monster, and is not overrated in any way

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 02:56 PM
Coming into the year it could be debated who was better considering Whiteside was on a 50 game sample and showed a lot of immaturity. Gobert is an absolute defensive monster, and is not overrated in any way

50 games is a lot of games though I don't see why people tried to use that as an excuse. I've seen him overrated many times. I've seen people say he's the next best center in the league. That's definitely overrated whenever you have guys like Drummond who is like 22 and Whiteisde and Cousins who are still relatively young.

hotdalton18
11-11-2015, 04:35 PM
I don't think so. He pretty much plays PG as it is and adding another 3 and D guy means he wouldn't have to guard the opposing PG all game. He's easily our best playmaker.

He can't guard opposing point guard at all anymore.



He can't guard SG's either...doesn't even put up his hand half the time...doesn't care to fight through a screen either

hotdalton18
11-11-2015, 04:38 PM
Dragic isn't going anywhere. You have to remember that this is the 1st year that he hasn't played for his country over the summer which he said usually gets him prepared to hit the ground running when the NBA season arrives.

So give him a break and stop crying about him struggling. We are looking really good for a team that's practically new. We have a easy start to the season as far as our scheduling, where we can rack up some wins which will help our team become more cohesive. So let's just chill a little bit.

Also I find it strange how a lot of people are saying how they are mad that we got rid of Rio, Napier and some other guys. When I have heard some of the same guys talk about how they would trade him for a stick of gum. I'm not understanding this.

He's been playing like TRASH after getting paid max

So fans in a sports forum are gonna point that out

We've won these last 2 with him not contributing at all

justinnum1
11-11-2015, 05:52 PM
green punched someone

WaDe03
11-11-2015, 06:27 PM
He can't guard SG's either...doesn't even put up his hand half the time...doesn't care to fight through a screen either

Lol he's been a lot better defensively than you think.

hotdalton18
11-11-2015, 06:34 PM
He can't guard SG's either...doesn't even put up his hand half the time...doesn't care to fight through a screen either

Lol he's been a lot better defensively than you think.

The last 2 games is what I'm talking about

He's not going through screens , he's letting people run by him and not closing out on the 3

hotdalton18
11-11-2015, 06:35 PM
green punched someone

Did he punch the officer?

Slug3
11-11-2015, 07:16 PM
Did he punch the officer?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2588434-gerald-green-suspension-by-heat-reportedly-stems-from-assault

beasted86
11-11-2015, 09:32 PM
Miami is ranked 3rd in defense right now. Would be great if we can keep it up and stay in the top 8.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 12:46 AM
Miami is ranked 3rd in defense right now. Would be great if we can keep it up and stay in the top 8.

Was about to say the same thing. We're also 9th in offense I think which I think will get better when Wade gets his percentages up, Dragic gets more comfortable, and Green comes back. Would be awesome if we could finish top 8 in offense and top 5 in defense. If that's the case we have a chance.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 01:25 AM
Wade has assisted Whiteside on 19 of his 54 baskets (35.2%).

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 02:15 AM
Wade has assisted Whiteside on 19 of his 54 baskets (35.2%).

Yah , he's the only one with enough brains to pass it to him

Dragic passed on 3 lobs he could of hit Whiteside on last game

Dade County
11-12-2015, 02:18 AM
Iíve been thinking on how to wakeup are sleeping dragon.


Spo the past 4 games has been taking Bosh out the game sooner then the other starters, so he can put Bosh back in when Whiteside has a sit.

Also Bosh starts the 2nd qtr with the 2nd unit as the starters rest, then Spo pulls him out when the starters come back in mid 2nd qtr (then Bosh comes back in with under 4min left).


Iím thinking Spo should be doing the samething with Dragic, so he can play with that 2nd unit as well.

Dragic
Green (when he gets back)/ Tj/ Richardson
Winslow
McRob
Bosh


Dragic needs to be in a free flowing offense to be truly successful, Deng & Wade do not complement Dragic style of play.

Also I think Dragic is maybe nursing and injury or something. In the Minny game he was attacking the rim, but since then he hasnít shown any explosiveness.

Well thats my 2cents.

SteBO
11-12-2015, 09:32 AM
Dragic & Wade played great together last year.....so Dwyane shouldn't be considered a hindrance to Goran's style of play.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 12:07 PM
Dragic & Wade played great together last year.....so Dwyane shouldn't be considered a hindrance to Goran's style of play.

Exactly.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 12:42 PM
Wade missed shoot around this morning for personal reasons. Spo says he will play tonight though.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 01:10 PM
Gobert didn't participate in shootaround and is questionable for tonight still.

My guess is he won't play.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 03:52 PM
Dragic & Wade played great together last year.....so Dwyane shouldn't be considered a hindrance to Goran's style of play.

Then your saying Goran is straight trash

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 03:52 PM
Gobert didn't participate in shootaround and is questionable for tonight still.

My guess is he won't play.

That sucks

Was looking forward to him vs Whiteside

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 04:07 PM
Then your saying Goran is straight trash

No he's saying he hasn't played with Bosh at all and hasn't consistently played with Whiteside and others until this year.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 04:08 PM
Our defensive numbers with Bosh/MczRoberts are better than they are with Bosh/Whiteside. That's pretty shocking.

Slug3
11-12-2015, 04:31 PM
Our defensive numbers with Bosh/MczRoberts are better than they are with Bosh/Whiteside. That's pretty shocking.

Why? Whiteside has been a good rim protector and someone who is going to block shots, but on the PnR he has been pretty bad. Also when he goes for a block and misses he leaves his man wide open under the basket for an easy put back.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 04:36 PM
Why? Whiteside has been a good rim protector and someone who is going to block shots, but on the PnR he has been pretty bad. Also when he goes for a block and misses he leaves his man wide open under the basket for an easy put back.

Shocking because Whiteside is a lot taller and longer than McRoberts and I figured that alone would lead to better defensive numbers out of the 2 due to his length throwing people off but I guess I was wrong. I thought he might compete for DPOY but if he doesn't work on the things you mentioned that's definitely not happening.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 05:36 PM
We now have the 2nd best defense barely behind Golden State after last night.

Dade County
11-12-2015, 06:27 PM
Why? Whiteside has been a good rim protector and someone who is going to block shots, but on the PnR he has been pretty bad. Also when he goes for a block and misses he leaves his man wide open under the basket for an easy put back.

It's the combination of Deng, Wade & Sleeping Dragon.

If they let Winslow start, I am sure the starting unit would have better numbers then when Bosh & McRob; also you have to factor in that Bosh & McRob are playing against the 2nd unit of that team too.

SteBO
11-12-2015, 06:35 PM
Then your saying Goran is straight trash
He's trash right now, but later he won't be. You'll see.....

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 06:58 PM
Wade is out. I guess Richardson draws the start

archdevil84
11-12-2015, 07:04 PM
hm, was looking forward to seeing wade play. oh wel

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 07:15 PM
At least it's not for an injury these 6 days in between games will probably be good for Wade though. I hope we win every game matters.

SteBO
11-12-2015, 07:28 PM
Hopefully Dragic will be more assertive and actually make some shots...

justinnum1
11-12-2015, 07:28 PM
wade son is at the hospital, hope everything is ok.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 07:34 PM
Our defensive numbers with Bosh/MczRoberts are better than they are with Bosh/Whiteside. That's pretty shocking.

It's cause our starters around Whiteside are trash on d lol

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 07:41 PM
It's cause our starters around Whiteside are trash on d lol

Their defensive numbers say differently.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 07:52 PM
Gobert also out.

Dade County
11-12-2015, 08:24 PM
Another so called top center avoids Whiteside. lol

But seriously, first Howard now Gobert.

Maybe the Jazz might play small ball tonight.

SportsFanatic10
11-12-2015, 08:47 PM
I think a game like this might be what Dragic needs to get himself going again. It's unfortunate that Wade has to miss this one, but Dragic gets to be the go to guy on he perimeter and handle the ball more. I think he'll have a big game, he's off to a nice start.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 08:49 PM
Hmm without Wade , Dragic starts off hot...crazy

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 08:52 PM
Bosh 1-6 in the first few minutes

But hey , it's not like anyone else is on the team bosh!

SportsFanatic10
11-12-2015, 08:55 PM
Hello Mr. Richardson!!!

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 08:57 PM
Josh Richardson is on!

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:01 PM
Hmm without Wade , Dragic starts off hot...crazy

There's no reason he can't do these things with Wade on the court. He's been missing a lot of lay ups lately.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:02 PM
10 free throws to 2 smh.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:04 PM
Looks like Wade is still the only one that can get the ball to Whiteside.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:04 PM
Why would Mcroberts hack Hayward when he saw Whiteside about to block the shot?

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Looks like Wade is still the only one that can get the ball to Whiteside.

Exactly

I don't get it either

It's not hard to pass to the biggest body on the floor

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:15 PM
Why would Mcroberts hack Hayward when he saw Whiteside about to block the shot?

Better a McRoberts foul than a 3rd on Whiteside. The refs are always 50-50 on those calls when the players meet at the rim like that.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:15 PM
Tyler Johnson is a starter on some teams

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:16 PM
Beno to Bosh was nice. He's a lot smarter than Chalmers but more than likely won't see much clock this year.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:16 PM
Why would Mcroberts hack Hayward when he saw Whiteside about to block the shot?

Better a McRoberts foul than a 3rd on Whiteside. The refs are always 50-50 on those calls when the players meet at the rim like that.

Would of been Hassan's 2nd if it was called

Announcers got it wrong earlier when they said he had 2 already

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:17 PM
Love what I'm seeing from everyone in this first half.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:17 PM
Would of been Hassan's 2nd if it was called

Announcers got it wrong earlier when they said he had 2 already

They're terrible with their stats lol.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:17 PM
Beno to Bosh was nice. He's a lot smarter than Chalmers but more than likely won't see much clock this year.

When Wade n green are back he won't play at all

Good 3rd PG tho

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:18 PM
Love what I'm seeing from everyone in this first half.

Yep

Even bosh picked up his bad start

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:24 PM
If this game is another blow out for us I'd like to see jarnell stokes , I liked him coming out

Didn't really get a chance in Memphis

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:29 PM
Keep the lead guys. Hassan starting to pout too much.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:31 PM
We need Bosh in the offense with this group looks terrible.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:37 PM
This is why we need Wade the offense looks completely lost.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:39 PM
Whiteside has 8 rebounds and 3 blocks but hopefully his offensive game turns on in the 2nd half and the team looks to get him involved

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:40 PM
This is why we need Wade the offense looks completely lost.

Yep

Goran started hot then went right back to terrible lol

Dade County
11-12-2015, 09:49 PM
Spo should have left whiteside in for 2 more min.

& i have nothing good to say about Dargic...smh

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:55 PM
Jazz gang rebounding in Whiteside since nobody else on the team wants to help rebound lol

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:56 PM
Damn man smh. Whiteside missing point blank and getting bullied by Favors.

A game we should've kept the lead. Looks like we might give this one away.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:56 PM
Spo should have left whiteside in for 2 more min.

& i have nothing good to say about Dargic...smh

Yah Dragic is a joke to this point

Looks like we cut Goran and kept Zoran lol

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:57 PM
Damn man smh. Whiteside missing point blank and getting bullied by Favors.

A game we should've kept the lead. Looks like we might give this one away.

Getting bullied by favors?

As you type that Whiteside just sent his shot back then dunked on him

His hook shot is off tho

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:58 PM
Favors looking like the best defensive big in the league against us.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 09:59 PM
Getting bullied by favors?

As you type that Whiteside just sent his shot back then dunked on him

His hook shot is off tho

Favors is killing.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 09:59 PM
Favors looking like the best defensive big in the league against us.

Anybody can block shots when your guards through it up with no hope

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:00 PM
Getting bullied by favors?

As you type that Whiteside just sent his shot back then dunked on him

His hook shot is off tho

Favors is killing.

Yah he's doing good but he's not bullying anybody

He just got his **** packed then put on a poster lol

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:02 PM
Let's go keep up the effort.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:03 PM
Wow no way burks should've got that shot off.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:03 PM
Finally Dragic passes to Whiteside

When he's being triple covered...

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:04 PM
Wow no way burks should've got that shot off.

Agree

Right over a 6'11 bosh

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:04 PM
Whiteside offense just off tonight

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:05 PM
Whitesides videos of him knocking down midrange jumpers this summer were definitely deceiving.

lavilevi23
11-12-2015, 10:05 PM
Favors eating us for dinner

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:07 PM
Favors 17-5-5-3

Whiteside 5-10-5

Whitesides getting bullied.

lavilevi23
11-12-2015, 10:16 PM
Refs are jazz fans

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:17 PM
8 free throws to their 20.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:22 PM
Big shot Beno!

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:27 PM
We've missed 2 big tip shots. Easy ones too.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 10:47 PM
664996240644403200

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 10:49 PM
Literally the way Tyler is playing offensively is how the Heat imagined Goran would be playing

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:51 PM
Favors 17-5-5-3

Whiteside 5-10-5

Whitesides getting bullied.


Are you watching the game ?

People are beating there guys into the paint , Whiteside steps up...favors open for a score

Half his points came in bosh and only 1 of his blocks was on Whiteside

Favors is just on

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:52 PM
Literally the way Tyler is playing offensively is how the Heat imagined Goran would be playing

Johnson is better then Dragic

He's a starter in this league

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 10:53 PM
664996240644403200

Who is a fringe guy?

Johnson and Richardson ?

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:55 PM
Are you watching the game ?

People are beating there guys into the paint , Whiteside steps up...favors open for a score

Half his points came in bosh and only 1 of his blocks was on Whiteside

Favors is just on

Yes I'm watching the game obviously. Don't let your love for Whiteside blind you. If that's the case he needs to learn to play better help defense.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 10:56 PM
Who is a fringe guy?

Johnson and Richardson ?

I mean he was talking about turning fringe nba players at the time such as Whiteside, Johnson, etc. This was the 2nd part of the tweet I left out

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WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:56 PM
Who is a fringe guy?

Johnson and Richardson ?

Yea and to a point Whiteside. All came in to the Heat and they did a great job developing them and in Whitesides case getting his head right and giving him confidence.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:57 PM
I mean he was talking about turning fringe nba players at the time such as Whiteside, Johnson, etc. This was the 2nd part of the tweet I left out

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The tweet didn't link.

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 10:58 PM
Literally the way Tyler is playing offensively is how the Heat imagined Goran would be playing

Yes lol. It's crazy.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 10:59 PM
Fixed the tweet from previous post

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 10:59 PM
Give us one here Goran

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 11:01 PM
Wouldn't throw Winslow in as a fringe guy he kind of just came in and we didn't know his defense would be this good but I agree with everything he said.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 11:01 PM
Well if Dragic don't do **** else at least he hit 2 clutch free throws

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 11:02 PM
Wouldn't throw Winslow in as a fringe guy he kind of just came in and we didn't know his defense would be this good but I agree with everything he said.

The point was is that Spo doesn't get enough credit as a coach in this forum. He and his staff have developed a lot of these young guys and they all exceeded our expectations from when we first got them/signed them.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 11:03 PM
Nice win. 2 toughest games of the home stand out of the way

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 11:04 PM
Who is a fringe guy?

Johnson and Richardson ?

I mean he was talking about turning fringe nba players at the time such as Whiteside, Johnson, etc. This was the 2nd part of the tweet I left out

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I give him credit on Johnson for sure

Whiteside looks the same he did in China , but they did have the locker room to help his mental

And we will see if they can help Winslow grow his offense

If they can do that then clearly there improving in player progression

Slug3
11-12-2015, 11:06 PM
This was a night for Dragic to prove he could be someone who can help. Instead he played like trash. He honestly needs to be moved before the deadline.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 11:06 PM
I give him credit on Johnson for sure

Whiteside looks the same he did in China , but they did have the locker room to help his mental

And we will see if they can help Winslow grow his offense

If they can do that then clearly there improving in player progression

Ok and Beasley kills China. Doing it in China and doing it in the NBA is 2 WAYYYYY different things. Whiteside couldn't even see the court whenever he was on an NBA team before us. Our d-league and development system as just been fantastic the past couple years

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 11:07 PM
Are you watching the game ?

People are beating there guys into the paint , Whiteside steps up...favors open for a score

Half his points came in bosh and only 1 of his blocks was on Whiteside

Favors is just on

Yes I'm watching the game obviously. Don't let your love for Whiteside blind you. If that's the case he needs to learn to play better help defense.


He was off on offense for sure

But he wasn't bullied

If the guys would stop getting beat off the dribble he'd stop stepping up every other play and that would help stopping his guy from getting wide open looks

But he didn't look to motivated on offense today...I think gobert being out hurt his motivation...which is stupid but still

Dade County
11-12-2015, 11:08 PM
The point was is that Spo doesn't get enough credit as a coach in this forum. He and his staff have developed a lot of these young guys and they all exceeded our expectations from when we first got them/signed them.

How about Spo learns how to manage the game better and call time outs to stop other teams runs.


But whatever... I am not happy about this game, Miami should play better; big ups to Bosh & Tj.


And something most be wrong with Dragic.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 11:10 PM
I give him credit on Johnson for sure

Whiteside looks the same he did in China , but they did have the locker room to help his mental

And we will see if they can help Winslow grow his offense

If they can do that then clearly there improving in player progression

Ok and Beasley kills China. Doing it in China and doing it in the NBA is 2 WAYYYYY different things. Whiteside couldn't even see the court whenever he was on an NBA team before us. Our d-league and development system as just been fantastic the past couple years

He barley played in our d league system , he was killing in someone else's dleague to lol

I'm saying for the most part he played the same exact game as he does now

But what they did help is him not fouling

His improvement there was HUGE!

I hope they let Stokes play some dleague this year

Dade County
11-12-2015, 11:11 PM
This was a night for Dragic to prove he could be someone who can help. Instead he played like trash.

Agreed.

He should have controlled this game on the offensive end to me.


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He honestly needs to be moved before the deadline.


I don't think thats going to happen.

I think he is battling an injury, he isn't showing enough explosion.

hotdalton18
11-12-2015, 11:12 PM
The point was is that Spo doesn't get enough credit as a coach in this forum. He and his staff have developed a lot of these young guys and they all exceeded our expectations from when we first got them/signed them.

How about Spo learns how to manage the game better and call time outs to stop other teams runs.


But whatever... I am not happy about this game, Miami should play better; big ups to Bosh & Tj.


And something most be wrong with Dragic.

We won a game without Wade/Green against a decent team with another bad performance from Dragic

Winning at all shows improvement !

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 11:15 PM
He was off on offense for sure

But he wasn't bullied

If the guys would stop getting beat off the dribble he'd stop stepping up every other play and that would help stopping his guy from getting wide open looks

But he didn't look to motivated on offense today...I think gobert being out hurt his motivation...which is stupid but still

Sound like excuses to me. If anything his eyes should've lit up when he saw no Gobert.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 11:15 PM
How about Spo learns how to manage the game better and call time outs to stop other teams runs.


But whatever... I am not happy about this game, Miami should play better; big ups to Bosh & Tj.


And something most be wrong with Dragic.

Sigh.

justinnum1
11-12-2015, 11:19 PM
good win

WaDe03
11-12-2015, 11:19 PM
How about Spo learns how to manage the game better and call time outs to stop other teams runs.


But whatever... I am not happy about this game, Miami should play better; big ups to Bosh & Tj.


And something most be wrong with Dragic.

Not happy? We just beat a solid up and coming Jazz team without our best player and best bench player. I'm ecstatic not to mention now that the Jazz and Raptors are out of the way we have a huge chance to take advantage of this home stand.

Dade County
11-12-2015, 11:34 PM
Not happy? We just beat a solid up and coming Jazz team without our best player and best bench player. I'm ecstatic not to mention now that the Jazz and Raptors are out of the way we have a huge chance to take advantage of this home stand.

Satisfied with the win.

But Spo drives me crazy (he doesn't mange the flow of the game well). Spo reacts too late, he either puts a players in too late or leaves a player in too long; he also can't sense when the other team has control over the game, until it's to late.

And Dragic disappointed me again.


It was how Miami played (and what Spo didn't do), why I am not happy about this game.

SteBO
11-12-2015, 11:37 PM
Some of you people can't be satisfied. To beat a pretty good Utah team without one of your best players is a damn good win. And Hassan didn't even play that well....

Bosh was really good, and TJ really came up huge.

Mr. Baller
11-12-2015, 11:39 PM
Satisfied with the win.

But Spo drives me crazy (he doesn't mange the flow of the game well). Spo reacts too late, he either puts a players in too late or leaves a player in too long; he also can't sense when the other team has control over the game, until it's to late.

And Dragic disappointed me again.


It was how Miami played (and what Spo didn't do), why I am not happy about this game.

Alright coach, hindsight is always 20/20. Spo will never earn your respect, we could win by 30 and you will find a way to bash him

WaDe03
11-13-2015, 12:22 AM
Satisfied with the win.

But Spo drives me crazy (he doesn't mange the flow of the game well). Spo reacts too late, he either puts a players in too late or leaves a player in too long; he also can't sense when the other team has control over the game, until it's to late.

And Dragic disappointed me again.


It was how Miami played (and what Spo didn't do), why I am not happy about this game.

Come on man smh. We are playing great basketball and after tonight will have the #1 ranked defense in the league. A lot of that has to do with Spos rotations this season and defensive system. I've been on the record to be against Spo all the time but as of right now I don't have much negative to say about him.

WaDe03
11-13-2015, 12:36 AM
Timberwolves, Kings, Sixers, and Knicks to close out the 7 game homestand. I'm hoping we can take them all.

WaDe03
11-13-2015, 12:52 AM
We now have the best defense in the league. Who would thought that would've happened so soon? Or at all lol?