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j-bay
10-03-2015, 08:04 PM
But the industry expectation is Boston will get an ace, and many executives believe the Red Sox will aggressively pursue David Price ó perhaps because Dombrowski traded for Price in Detroit. To do this, Bostonís ownership would have to alter its philosophy not to give lavish long-term deals that take pitchers deep into their 30s.
http://nypost.com/2015/10/03/is-red-soxs-sudden-rise-for-real-3-questions-before-the-stamp/

ruckus16969
10-04-2015, 11:10 AM
He would honestly be the only one that got me excited. Him or Greinke but Greinke would have to be on a much shorter deal

-Lavigne43-
10-04-2015, 03:05 PM
Article is based off of total speculation. The Red Sox need pitching, and Dombrowski once traded for Price, so the Red Sox must be planning on pursuing Price specifically. No real substance.

Vincent33
10-07-2015, 05:36 PM
Well duh. Red Sox considered to be going after <insert FA top tier SP here> this off-season.

EEasyA
10-07-2015, 05:57 PM
David Price needs to be the Red Sox Top priority. I said before the season began, the Red Sox weren't going to make the playoffs or win a championship without an ace, and look what happended.

Bo Sox Fan
10-07-2015, 06:11 PM
David Price being the top priority for the Red Sox and the Red Sox being the top priority for David Price are two totally different things. Historically he hates Boston and would rather beat them than join them. Pass.

Cueto has said he'd love to play in Boston, but his arm might be a mess. I don't want to pass on him, but common sense says...

Jordan Zimmerman is the guy to target in FA'cy. Jeff Samardijia wouldn't be a bad plan B as long as there is an ace in the fold via trade.

-Lavigne43-
10-07-2015, 06:59 PM
Yeah, you can't ignore the bad blood between Price and the Red Sox. The Red Sox have to be at the bottom of his personal list. If we sign him it will be because we severely outbid everyone else.

EEasyA
10-07-2015, 07:57 PM
Yes there is a little bit of bad blood between Price & Red Sox, but that doesn't mean it can't be resolved. I think the whole situation gets overblown sometimes. At the end of the day if the Red Sox shows him that they really want him here in Boston, and pays him close to market value for a top pitcher ( say 27, 28 mil, I believe he signs here.

He is not going to pass up all that money because he was mad at David Ortiz for hitting a home run off him, and admiring it . That's very trivial.

ruckus16969
10-08-2015, 05:21 PM
Price would be absolute first TOR of this FA class if I was any GM in the league that had the money and is in need.

If didn't want to come here because of the things that happened in the past then he don't have tough enough skin anyways. The guy is a pro. The team that gives him the best to win and the most money or some combo of that is the team that will get him. We have both the talent and the money.

Next year Price and Ortiz will be doing DD commercials and raising money for the Jimmy Fund while ring Boston Strong and winning allot of games.

RedSoxtober
10-08-2015, 11:07 PM
David Price needs to be the Red Sox Top priority. I said before the season began, the Red Sox weren't going to make the playoffs or win a championship without an ace, and look what happended.
The Red Sox projected themselves as an 86-88 win team with the middle-of-the-road rotation they had and finished 10 games shy of that. Their expectation was to be competitive in a tightly bunched AL East. Had HanRam and Panda performed anywhere remotely like their expectations then their estimates might have been pretty accurate. They were spot on about the nature of the AL East in which they were competing.


Yes there is a little bit of bad blood between Price & Red Sox, but that doesn't mean it can't be resolved. I think the whole situation gets overblown sometimes. At the end of the day if the Red Sox shows him that they really want him here in Boston, and pays him close to market value for a top pitcher ( say 27, 28 mil, I believe he signs here.

He is not going to pass up all that money because he was mad at David Ortiz for hitting a home run off him, and admiring it . That's very trivial.
I think this classically underestimates the fact that baseball (and, really, every job) is personal. Working with someone that you cannot stand is draining. It's truly one of those areas in which you might convince yourself that all those dollars can buy your happiness... and you'll be wrong.

That said, what do you think will happen if Theo offers him roughly the same money? It wouldn't be difficult to convince Price to reunite with his old manager or to become part of a dominant starting rotation in order to become part of a generation changing world series winner. The Cubs are roughly $25M below their peak payroll, have another $38M coming off their guaranteed payroll (thanks to club controlled and arb level players so that number comes down), and have a very excited fan base. In other words, Theo probably has a blank check to make this happen.

MG956
10-10-2015, 01:16 PM
...That said, what do you think will happen if Theo offers him roughly the same money? It wouldn't be difficult to convince Price to reunite with his old manager or to become part of a dominant starting rotation in order to become part of a generation changing world series winner. The Cubs are roughly $25M below their peak payroll, have another $38M coming off their guaranteed payroll (thanks to club controlled and arb level players so that number comes down), and have a very excited fan base. In other words, Theo probably has a blank check to make this happen.

After reading what I bold'd I think any other outcome is ridiculous. I just hope the Cubs don't go all the way this year and we meet them in a World Series soon. That would be a dream series for many reasons.

As for the actual Price rumor, we will be or have been rumored to want every major player at every level of baseball, whether they are available or not. It's just noise.

-Lavigne43-
10-10-2015, 03:00 PM
If any team offers him roughly the same money he will choose that team over the Red Sox.

Yeah, the Cubs are going to be a really scary team if the pitchers they sign don't bust. The one thing that may stop them from filling up their payroll is that Arrieta is a free agent after 2017, and his agent is Boras.

GrkGawdofWalkz
10-12-2015, 09:46 AM
Pretty much makes sense. He's the alpha in free agency and he doesn't have draft pick compensation. I really do love Zimmerman as well.

You could definitely get me salivating over a starting pitching staff of.

1) David Price (L)
2) Jordan Zimmerman (R)
3) Eduardo Rodriguez (L)
4) Clay Buchholz (R)
5) Wade Miley (L)

I mean I would ultimately like upgrades over Miley and Buchholz, but it would be a strong 1-3.

Obscureathletes
10-13-2015, 06:56 PM
Stuck with Porcello, I'd love to see them get someone like Price, which would slot him at the #2 where he belongs.

That said, he could reasonably command 6-7 years on the open market, which could scare them away (Though perhaps not with Dombrowski at the helm)--Either way, if they make the leap for him they NEED at least 2-3 excellent years out of him. The concern about him not liking Boston could also be the kind of thing that would make the Sox have to offer much more than the next team.

Oakmont_4
10-14-2015, 09:38 AM
I think Dombrowski's first presser was very telling on where his mindset is with this club. To me it seems like he's pretty content with 90% of the roster...So those expecting a flurry of offseason moves and acquisitions are more than likely going to be disappointed.

My takes.
-The OF is set, looking to bring in a 4th OFer. Because of our versatility we already have, I'd expect this to be a corner OFer.
-Positions 1B, 2B, SS, 3B are set. (Hanley/Shaw/Travis, Pedroia, X, Pablo - Brock)
-C seems to be set, mostly dependent on Vasquez recovery
-Porcello is our #3 starter
-Miley/E-Rod/Owens are the back end of the rotation
-Dombrowski views Bucholtz as an Ace but wants him at #2
-Tazawa is the SU man. Koji remains Closer but will also bring in another Closer for backup.

So from what I gather we're going to target 3-5 top end players and acquire them via trade or Free Agency to fill the following holes
-Ace pitcher
-#4 OFer
-Power BP arm (I think Kelly might slot in here)
-Closer for Koji insurance
-Another BP arm (lefty specialist)

I'm pretty much in agreement that that's really all this team needs. I'd like to accomplish this via Free Agency, which would leave our farm in tact which can be used to improve the club at the trade deadline if needed.

We are not going to sign/trade for 2 top end pitchers, it's not going to happen, so I'd get it out of your heads now.

Trading Pablo and Hanley doesn't seem realistic based on last years performance and their contracts. If we trade them we're eating the majority of the money and still not getting much back in return so I can see why Dombrowski wouldn't even bother. It's best to work with the players and get them in shape. Don't guarantee them starting positions and let them battle in Spring Training with the youth.

The only part I'm not solid on is relying on Clay. At this point in his career I think you treat him as a 5th starter. You can't build around him in spots 1-3 in the rotation because he's not going to be healthy the entire season. I'd like to look at Clay/Owens as the #5 spot in the rotation. Start Owens in AAA and WHEN Clay goes down you call up Owens. Simple. Let Clay walk in the offseason or deal him at the deadline if he makes it there healthy.

Bo Sox Fan
10-14-2015, 11:21 AM
So he basically said,

- I'm signing the horse ace SP I know best in David Price.

- I'm trading for former closer, a LHP in Sean Doolittle from Oakland.

- I'm swapping Rick Porcello for a LHH corner outfielder in Andre Ethier from the Dodgers because I like our SP pitching depth and I don't trust Castillo.

That's exactly what I got!

Oakmont_4
10-14-2015, 03:12 PM
So he basically said,

- I'm signing the horse ace SP I know best in David Price.

- I'm trading for former closer, a LHP in Sean Doolittle from Oakland.

- I'm swapping Rick Porcello for a LHH corner outfielder in Andre Ethier from the Dodgers because I like our SP pitching depth and I don't trust Castillo.

That's exactly what I got!

I agree with pretty much all of that, except he seemed pretty solid on Porcello as a #3.

Would love Price and Doolittle...Even better would be Gray and Doolittle but that's just semantics.

GrkGawdofWalkz
11-01-2015, 08:51 AM
So he basically said,

- I'm signing the horse ace SP I know best in David Price.

- I'm trading for former closer, a LHP in Sean Doolittle from Oakland.

- I'm swapping Rick Porcello for a LHH corner outfielder in Andre Ethier from the Dodgers because I like our SP pitching depth and I don't trust Castillo.

That's exactly what I got!

If you cannot get anything better than Ethier you have issues. They can have Hanley back for Ethier. I'd welcome that in a heartbeat.

ruckus16969
11-01-2015, 05:43 PM
I'm not sure Price wants to come here but he definitely make the most sense. Wouldn't cost prospects or draft pick. Is an absolute beast. If Price was smart he would want to choose a team like Boston. Set up to win for years. Has the money to spend spend spend to get the best players possible for the teams needs.

RedSoxtober
11-01-2015, 10:06 PM
I'm not sure Price wants to come here but he definitely make the most sense. Wouldn't cost prospects or draft pick. Is an absolute beast. If Price was smart he would want to choose a team like Boston. Set up to win for years. Has the money to spend spend spend to get the best players possible for the teams needs.

The Cubs are "a team like Boston. Set up to win for years. Has the money to spend spend spend". They have a core built around power with an IF that averages 23yrs old and locked up through 2021 plus Soler (23) in the OF. They're also shedding a lot of FA money from a payroll that's still $25M below their peak with a rabid fan base hoping to break their own curse. Unfortunately I do not see much chance of beating them out for Price.

-Lavigne43-
11-01-2015, 11:39 PM
The Cubs are "a team like Boston. Set up to win for years. Has the money to spend spend spend". They have a core built around power with an IF that averages 23yrs old and locked up through 2021 plus Soler (23) in the OF. They're also shedding a lot of FA money from a payroll that's still $25M below their peak with a rabid fan base hoping to break their own curse. Unfortunately I do not see much chance of beating them out for Price.

Plus in Theo's end of the season press conference he said they would add SP. Cubs or Dodgers for sure.

ruckus16969
11-03-2015, 01:59 PM
I wasn't saying he is going to sign here. Just stating that's something we have going for us. If we offer 3m a year more the Cubs he may come here.

May is my bolder word just to lazy to bold it