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bagwell368
08-01-2015, 04:21 PM
Obviously Napoli has been brutal this year, and we'd all like him to be gone - one way or another.

However, I keep hearing and seeing (not just here) BC getting killed over Napoli.

Well, it was a 3 yr/$39M contract. According to Fan Graphs, Napoli's seasons have been worth:

2013: $29.2M
2014: $18.4M
2015: $03.7M (projects for $4.5M or so)

By the numbers and the ring, he was clearly worth the deal over the time we've had him.

Victorino:$44.2M, $0.4M, $3.1M

Well we got a great year out of him, and a great year and halff out of Napoli - by the numbers, they were both good/great buys.

Lester is over FG $25M in '15 - Porcello at $1.8M - now that's something you can go after BC and LL over....

-Lavigne43-
08-01-2015, 07:46 PM
Remember Napoli's 3 year 39 year deal got nixed because of his hip issue. After 2013 he got a 2 year $32M deal, which turned out bad, but you can't complain about that after the 2013 season.

Bo Sox Fan
08-01-2015, 09:25 PM
Hanley Ramirez, Pablo Sandoval, Travis Shaw, Joey Votto... The replacements are endless for a fat man's position.

bagwell368
08-02-2015, 05:50 AM
Remember Napoli's 3 year 39 year deal got nixed because of his hip issue. After 2013 he got a 2 year $32M deal, which turned out bad, but you can't complain about that after the 2013 season.

That's right, thanks for pointing that out. So it was 3/$44M then, right? Still worth it.

bagwell368
08-02-2015, 05:53 AM
Hanley Ramirez, Pablo Sandoval, Travis Shaw, Joey Votto... The replacements are endless for a fat man's position.

Not sure about the wisdom of those first two names. I'm just pointing out both of those guys were worth the contract. Not the obvious fact fact about the current state that each is in.

How about the Sox farm system produces another Rizzo? That's what I would like.

papipapsmanny
08-02-2015, 12:43 PM
I think Shaw should be given a real shot. Just looking at his Walk rates in the minors and his 2014 stats tell me he can be productive and perhaps hit 25+ HRs. A .270/.345 line with 24 HRs doesn't seem that unrealistic.

He reminds of a better Mitch Moreland. I'm curious to see how he performs the rest of this year.