2015 ATRD Archive Thread

[The Jokemaker]

With pick 363, Kenosha wants some guy named *zooms in on card to read it*, Earl Thomas, safety.

Fans were reportedly puzzled by the selection by having no idea who this was.

[TDjacksonville]

Sonny Jurgensen QB

[SteelCurtain]

The St Louis Rams request AFL All Time Team safety Goose Gonsoulin

[The Jokemaker]

I'm looking to move up to an upcoming pick from my 22nd pick. Willing to move my 23rd and 24th picks.

[Wrench]

Dons are skipped, reached a 2 hour total.

[SteelCurtain]

The Steelers will take NT Fred Smerlas
The St Louis Rams will take safety George Saimes and CB Bobby Boyd

[SteelCurtain]

Shoot! Boyd is gon. Give the Rams Butch Byrd instead.

[Wrench]

371. San Francisco 49ers- 30 mins up
372. Chicago Cardinals - skipped
373. Detroit Wolverines - skipped
374. Houston Oilers - otc

[killthesux]

Vikings send:
- pick 20.358
- pick 21.363

Maroons send:
- Ed Meador
- pick 24.425

[richiesaurus310]

The 49ers welcome home the only athlete to win an Olympic medal and Super Bowl ring in the same year, NT Michael Carter

[Wrench]

374. Houston Oilers- 30 mins up
375. Philadelphia Eagles- otc

[The Jokemaker]

Titans want Jay Hilgenberg, Guard

[QB_Eagles]

375. Philadelphia Eagles - 2 hours up
376. Decatur Staleys - skipped
377. Washington Senators - otc

[Andrei00]

Todd Christensen, TE

[BDawk4Prez]

Cornell Green

[Andrei00]

Ben Coates, TE to make up for the fact that I screwed up and Christensen was already selected.

[valade16]

The Houston Oilers select John Madden, HC

[Norm]

Lance Briggs with skipped pick please.

[Wrench]

378. Baltimore Colts - 2 hours up

Round 22 - 2 Hours

379. Baltimore Colts- skipped
380. Washington Senators- otc

[Andrei00]

Chad Johnson, WR

[Wrench]

382. Philadelphia Eagles - 30 mins have past and no pick
383. Houston Oilers - otc

[Wrench]

Eagles wants bob keuchenberg

[Wrench]

383. Houston Oilers - 30 mins up
384. Detroit Wolverines- SKIPPED
385. Chicago Cardinals- SKIPPED
386. San Francisco 49ers - otc

[richiesaurus310]

49ers select CB Gary Green

[valade16]

The Houston Oilers select Joe Fortunato, LB

[Wrench]

387. Tennessee Titans via St Louis Rams - 2 hours up
388. SKIP
389. Kenosha Maroons- Erich Barnes, CB
390. Pittsburgh Steelers - otc

[SteelCurtain]

The Steelers will take 1973 Defensive Player of the Year S Dick Anderson!

[Norm]

Darren Woodson

[The Jokemaker]

Duluth Eskimos take Pat "Mighty Mouse" Fischer, CB.

[StriveGreatness]

Pat Swilling, LB and Art Powell, WR with skipped picks

[killthesux]

William the Refrigerator Perry with 1 Skipped picked

[Norm]

KTS wants Dave Whitsell with his other skip

[Wrench]

394. Minnesota Vikings - 2 hours up
395. Duluth Eskimoes - otc

[The Jokemaker]

With the 395th pick, the Duluth Eskimos make their final selection the great Billy Joe "Hulk" Dupree, tight end.

http://www.footballcardgallery.com/1978_Topps/470/Billy_Joe_DuPree.jpg

[Wrench]

I'll take Steve McMichael, DT and Dennis Smith, SS

[TDjacksonville]

The 49ers welcome home the only athlete to win an Olympic medal and Super Bowl ring in the same year, NT Michael Carter
Sorry to Burst your Bubble But he didn't do it in the Same Calendar Year so not really the same year.

[The Long Shot]

Vikings take OG-Kent Hill with our skipped pick.


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[The Jokemaker]

Pick 398, Duluth Eskimos select HOF wide receiver Dante "Ice Cube" Lavelli

[Wrench]

He won the medal at the 84' games and won the SB in the 84' season.

Same year.

[The Long Shot]

Vikings select OG-Dick Barwegan.


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[TDjacksonville]

Jay Novacek TE

[TDjacksonville]

He won the medal at the 84' games and won the SB in the 84' season.

Same year. Super bowl is Played in 85 thus New Year.

[Norm]

Who cares.

[killthesux]

Titans select OG Bob Talamini

[Wrench]

With activity about dead I'd say just open the rest of the draft up and let people finish their drafts.

[Norm]

DB Bobby Dillon

[SteelCurtain]

The Steelers will take WR Mark "Super" Duper !

[QB_Eagles]

Kenosha Maroons select Harold Jackson, WR

[QB_Eagles]

406. St Louis Rams request Steve Jordan, TE
407. Pittsburgh Steelers request Jimmy Johnson, HC
408. Chicago Cardinals - skipped
409. Detroit Wolverines - skipped
410. Houston Oilers - OTC

[valade16]

Houston Oilers select Jake Scott, S

[BDawk4Prez]

Earl knows Bo.

Bo knows Earl.

Welcome to the Eagles Bo Jackson.

[QB_Eagles]

412. Decatur Staleys - skipped
413. Washington Senators - OTC

[BDawk4Prez]

With activity about dead I'd say just open the rest of the draft up and let people finish their drafts.

Agree

[Norm]

It's only going to take a couple more days... Just let it go. It's not the end of the world.

[BDawk4Prez]

Aaron Rodgers.

Come get em.

[QB_Eagles]

413. Washington Senators - 1 hour is up
414. + 415. Baltimore Colts - OTC

[cubbybear2290]

1st skip: Tom Fears, WR

[cubbybear2290]

2nd Skip- Bill Willis, Guard

[cubbybear2290]

Skip 3 - Mike Stratton

[cubbybear2290]

4th Skip - Bob Jeter, CB.

[QB_Eagles]

2nd Skip- Bill Willis, Guard
He already got picked. List has a typo: "Bill Wills"

[QB_Eagles]

414. Baltimore Colts - 1 hour is up
415. Baltimore Colts - skipped
416. Washington Senators - skipped
417. Decatur Staleys - OTC

[cubbybear2290]

He already got picked. List has a typo: "Bill Wills"

fixed with Alex Wojciechowicz

[cubbybear2290]

5th Skip - Ed Budde, Guard

[cubbybear2290]

6th Skip - Ricky Watters

[cubbybear2290]

Last Skip - Marv Levy, HC

[BDawk4Prez]

Eagles would like to welcome a guy who doesn't get near the love in this game, or in real life for that matter.

Welcome to Philly Mr. Warren Moon.

[valade16]

The Houston Oilers select Walt Kiesling, G

[QB_Eagles]

417. Decatur Staleys - 30 mins are up
418. Philadelphia Eagles - picked
419. Houston Oilers - picked
420. Detroit Wolverines - skipped
421. Chicago Cardinals - skipped
422. San Francisco 49ers - OTC

[cubbybear2290]

Safety, Rodney Harrison

[Andrei00]

Jack Rudnay, C

[Andrei00]

and also Riley Odoms, TE

[QB_Eagles]

422. San Francisco 49ers - 1 hour is up
423. Kenosha Maroons select Chris Hinton, OL
425. Minnesota Vikings - OTC

[The Long Shot]

Vikings select FB-John Henry Johnson.

[QB_Eagles]

426. San Francisco 49ers - skipped
427. Los Angeles Dons - OTC

[Wrench]

427. Los Angeles Dons- skipped
428. Tennessee Titans- otc

[Wrench]

428. Tennessee Titans- - SKIP
429. St Louis All Stars- otc

[TDjacksonville]

George Trafton C

[TDjacksonville]

Howard Mudd G then

[The Long Shot]

Vikings select TE-Rich Caster.

[The Jokemaker]

Tom Rathman, full back.

[Wrench]

Joe Perry, FB and Miller Farr, CB

[Norm]

G Randy Cross with skipped pick.

[SteelCurtain]

The Steelers will take CB Carl Lee

[TDjacksonville]

Vikings skipped as an hour has passed.

ill take Jeff Bostic C

[richiesaurus310]

49ers with skipped picks select TE Raymond Chester and welcome home C Bruce Bosley

[TDjacksonville]

titans skipped for having a skip

[Norm]

G Conrad Dobler

[SteelCurtain]

The Steelers will take 1965 Bert Bell Award (Player of the Year ) winner, TE Pete Retzlaff!

[QB_Eagles]

440. Kenosha Maroons select Seth Joyner, OLB
442. Tennessee Titans - auto skip
443. San Francisco 49ers - OTC

[richiesaurus310]

49ers select the other O.J., RB Ottis Anderson

[valade16]

The Chicago Cardinals and the Detroit Wolverines both have active skips.

The Houston Oilers select Christian Okoye, FB.

Philadelphia Eagles are OTC.

[BDawk4Prez]

Bill Bergey, LBB

Welcome home, Bill.

[The Long Shot]

Vikings select WR-John Jefferson.


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[QB_Eagles]

448. Decatur Staleys - 1 hour is up
449. Washington Senators - OTC

[Andrei00]

George Halas, HC

[QB_Eagles]

450. Baltimore Colts - autoskip
451. Baltimore Colts - autoskip
452. Washington Senators - OTC again

[Andrei00]

Leroy Kelly, HB

[BDawk4Prez]

Mac Speedie, yeah, he's gotta be legit with a name like that.

[QB_Eagles]

There's been some talk about holding a FA adding up to 4 players for a roster of 30 total. (including HC)

KTS was pretty clear in chat a week ago or so that there would be not FA period after the draft.

I'd say we wait on holding one until he's back to clarify this.

[valade16]

The Houston Oilers select Hewritt Dixon, TE/FB

[QB_Eagles]

456. Detroit Wolverines - autoskip
457. Chicago Cardinals - autoskip
458. San Francisco 49ers - OTC

[QB_Eagles]

KTS just clarified that there a no wait times in round 26.

Everyone who still has picks left can make them now.

[QB_Eagles]

With back-to-back picks in round 26, Kenosha Maroons select:

Cookie Gilchrist, RB
Randall Cunningham, QB

[TDjacksonville]

Ted Washington NT
Haloti Ngata DE

[QB_Eagles]

Tennessee Titans request Gary Fencik, S

[richiesaurus310]

49ers welcome home Bill Walsh's right hand man, 5 time Super Bowl champion (2 as a head coach) George Seifert

[QB_Eagles]

Tennessee Titans request Mike Cofer, LB

[QB_Eagles]

Tennessee Titans request Jumpy Geathers, DT

[QB_Eagles]

Tennessee Titans request Russ Francis, TE

[cubbybear2290]

Kicker, Jan Stenerud

[Norm]

There's been some talk about holding a FA adding up to 4 players for a roster of 30 total. (including HC)

KTS was pretty clear in chat a week ago or so that there would be not FA period after the draft.

I'd say we wait on holding one until he's back to clarify this.

People need to know for these picks. I'd say of EVERYONE else wants it.... It should happen. He's the only one I've seen against it.

[TDjacksonville]

People need to know for these picks. I'd say of EVERYONE else wants it.... It should happen. He's the only one I've seen against it.
hes also against it

[Norm]

hes also against it
Eagles is?

Why

[TDjacksonville]

Eagles is?

Why
yes cuz he doesnt see the point in it

[Norm]

yes cuz he doesnt see the point in it

We've always done it though.

[TDjacksonville]

We've always done it though.
i know ;)

[QB_Eagles]

Eagles is?

Why
Yeah, I think it would make sense if everyone only drafted 22 players + 1 HC, to have an extra free agency after that.

As it stands, everybody already has 3 backups, so why the need to add more?

Also when it comes to kickers and punters, when it's on a first come first serve basis that sort of defeats the point, because there are only a handful of renown specialists, especially when you can't pick from the 90s/00s.

But as I said in chat, if there's a fixed time when free agency will be held, then I wouldn't mind it.

[valade16]

We shouldn't do P and K because that's stupid. I get that we already have 3 backups but those backups had to be specific positions so we didn't really have any flexibility. If people want more they should have it, at this point since they can't be 90's+ players anyway, I seriously doubt there is a scenario where a player picked in FA makes me rank one team ahead of another.

[Wrench]

We are not doing P and K, haven't for a few games now.

[BDawk4Prez]

Who wants to coach this team? Bill Cowher does. Welcome Bill.

[Norm]

We are not doing P and K, haven't for a few games now.

Norm invented this trend. You are all welcome.

[Norm]

Yeah, I think it would make sense if everyone only drafted 22 players + 1 HC, to have an extra free agency after that.

As it stands, everybody already has 3 backups, so why the need to add more?

Also when it comes to kickers and punters, when it's on a first come first serve basis that sort of defeats the point, because there are only a handful of renown specialists, especially when you can't pick from the 90s/00s.

But as I said in chat, if there's a fixed time when free agency will be held, then I wouldn't mind it.
We get three backups?

I'm still confused to be honest. I thought I only got a nickel corner and an extra tight end by the rules lol

[Norm]

Dons want Bill Parcells

[Norm]

Cookie!

[valade16]

We get three backups?

I'm still confused to be honest. I thought I only got a nickel corner and an extra tight end by the rules lol

2 HBs, 3WRs, 2 TEs, 5 OL, 1 QB is 13 players, so 2 backups on O and 1 on D (Nickel CB)

[Norm]

2 HBs, 3WRs, 2 TEs, 5 OL, 1 QB is 13 players, so 2 backups on O and 1 on D (Nickel CB)
That's no flexibility. I should be able to get an extra DL or LB if I want.

[valade16]

That's no flexibility. I should be able to get an extra DL or LB if I want.

Agreed.

[QB_Eagles]

We are not doing P and K, haven't for a few games now.
I have no problem with it then; we only need to come up with a time when FA picks are made and how many are allowed.

I'm wondering though why Cubby picked a kicker.

[Norm]

I have no problem with it then; we only need to come up with a time when FA picks are made and how many are allowed.

I'm wondering though why Cubby picked a kicker.

Cubby was probably used to old rules.

I wanna get in here on this first.

I'm in favor of 4 more guys.

But, no more WRs. We've never had more than 3 WRs on a team. I don't want some team to win on the exploit of having 4 or 5 against a guy who doesn't have 4 or 5 CBs. That's just silly.

Extra DL, LBs, and DBs. Or a HB or extra OL if you really want to. HB makes the most sense.

Valade suggested one more modern slot, at first I thought screw that, but it's actually a good idea now that I think of it. As long as he's NOT a starter. So it's just a reserve. That can't hurt anything at this point.

[QB_Eagles]

Cubby was probably used to old rules.

I wanna get in here on this first.

I'm in favor of 4 more guys.

But, no more WRs. We've never had more than 3 WRs on a team. I don't want some team to win on the exploit of having 4 or 5 against a guy who doesn't have 4 or 5 CBs. That's just silly.

Extra DL, LBs, and DBs. Or a HB or extra OL if you really want to. HB makes the most sense.

Valade suggested one more modern slot, at first I thought screw that, but it's actually a good idea now that I think of it. As long as he's NOT a starter. So it's just a reserve. That can't hurt anything at this point.
I'm against additional modern guys. There are still some big names out there, so distributing them in any way other than a draft would be unfair. Also I don't think them being backups or not would make a difference in the main. Additionally, it would probably lead to arguments about how this or that backup can beat this or that starter, which defeats the point of having backups and starters in the first place.

I'd say add three more guys without positional restrictions, but keeping the decade restrictions. I think more than three would be excessive and kinda pointless.

It probably would have been better to draft only 22 starters and then let everyone add 5 or so backups in free agency. Now quite a few teams are stuck with backup TEs they won't even use.

[Wrench]

I agree on no more modern slots.

Also like to point out you don't have to add 4 guys if you don't want to. I may add one guy at most myself. Adding guys to just add them doesn't work in your favor IMO.

[QB_Eagles]

Also like to point out you don't have to add 4 guys if you don't want to. I may add one guy at most myself. Adding guys to just add them doesn't work in your favor IMO.
Makes sense.

[valade16]

The fact there are some big name modern guys kind of shows the current rules were overly restrictive no?

We need to cap WRs, because what if somebody gets 2 WRs in FA and runs a 5 wide set and the other team only has 3 CBs? They auto lose almost...

[Norm]

The fact there are some big name modern guys kind of shows the current rules were overly restrictive no?

We need to cap WRs, because what if somebody gets 2 WRs in FA and runs a 5 wide set and the other team only has 3 CBs? They auto lose almost...

This

Max 3 WRs has been the rule for eternity.

There's no reason to change that.

Honestly, I don't wanna do FA anymore. Just end it. Activity is dead, nobody can agree on how, KTS doesn't want to do it, somehow it'll end up messing someone's team up in a matchup when it shouldn't. It's just a headache at this point.

[Norm]

I agree on no more modern slots.

Also like to point out you don't have to add 4 guys if you don't want to. I may add one guy at most myself. Adding guys to just add them doesn't work in your favor IMO.

There's also zero chance it will hurt you.

Like Valade said, there's still a few modern "studs" and the rest of the eras still have some good players, sure, but nothing like what's modern left.

Again though, I want to make sure 3 WRs is max. We don't need everyone adding a top 5 current NFL WR as their 4th WR lol. I guess they can't bc they've all maxed their slots though likely. But still.

[Norm]

I'm against additional modern guys. There are still some big names out there, so distributing them in any way other than a draft would be unfair. Also I don't think them being backups or not would make a difference in the main. Additionally, it would probably lead to arguments about how this or that backup can beat this or that starter, which defeats the point of having backups and starters in the first place.

I'd say add three more guys without positional restrictions, but keeping the decade restrictions. I think more than three would be excessive and kinda pointless.

It probably would have been better to draft only 22 starters and then let everyone add 5 or so backups in free agency. Now quite a few teams are stuck with backup TEs they won't even use.

We can distribute other players without a draft but not modern players :/

I don't see how we can let people not restrict WRs. I'm going to run to pick 2 WRs and 2 DBs if we don't. Because I want to have 5 WRs and everyone is going to want 5 WRs and so I'll need more DBs. Instead of getting something else like a reserve d lineman in there or whatever.

The 2TE rule change was weird. I think it used to be a combination of 4 RB/TE. So you could have 3 RBs and 1 TE if you wanted.

[Wrench]

Yea 3 WR should also stay max.

No limits on D players so you can create any D you want. 3 WR, 2 TE and 3-4 RBs should be enough on O.

[Wrench]

I'll pick Keith Byars, TE/RB to finish my draft.

If you have picks to make, make them.

[TDjacksonville]

gonna need to set a deadline for making up missed picks and FA start/end if we are going to do it

[The Jokemaker]

I have 4 WRs but I can drop one depending on the rules, just let me know.

[valade16]

If you have not done so finish your remaining picks and update your clubhouse!

[BDawk4Prez]

Last pick for me, Gronk needs a buddy on the other side, welcome Billy Cannon.

[valade16]

Below are my offensive power rankings. I have seperated them into "Passing Offense", "Rushing Offense" and "Total Offense". NOTE: I get that your team has X Hall of Famers and Y player did so and so. This is an All-Time, All of the teams are good, but this is about in the context of these 17 teams, which are the best and worst. Consider that the 9th best QB in the history of football is a below average starter in this.

Best Passing Offenses:

1. Canton Bulldogs - started with the best WR (and #1 overall pick) Jerry Rice and continued to stock up on offense from there. Waited a bit on QB but still got a good one in Fran Tarkenton. What makes this passing offense so great is that every player perfectly fits in their role: Rice and Holt both have ample experience playing off another dynamic WR, Welker is an excellent slot WR, Newsome is one of the best receiving TEs ever and Thurman Thomas is an excellent receiver out of the backfield. When all 5 weapons are on the field they seem unstoppable. POTENTIAL WEAKNESS: Tarkenton doesn't always get the appreciation he deserves and may struggle to win votes vs. another stacked offense with a Top 5 All-Time QB.

2. San Francisco 49ers - Strength of this offense relies heavily on it's monster 1-2 punch at WR, TO and Megatron. Both are big WRs who are a nigthmare to cover. Add in one of the best receiving TEs of all-time in Shannon Sharpe and John Elway has a lot of big bodies to throw to. Tommy McDonald was a TD machine (10 TD Avg. from 58-63) and Ottis Anderson is an underrated receiver out of the backfield. This team has the best Red Zone passing offense in the game. POTENTIAL WEAKNESS: Doesn't go 5-6 at receiving options like other elite passing teams, could be slowed down by a strong secondary.

3. Tennessee Titans - No, it's not just because I'm biased. Joe Montana has an unparralleled assortment of weapons to throw to. The 3 WRs perfectly compliment each other, Largent the sure handed #1, Joiner the complementary #2 and Ellard the deep threat. Gonzo is the best receiving TE in NFL History and Tomlinson is among the best receiving HBs in NFL History. The icing on the cake is that all of these pieces fit perfectly into the WCO they're tryign to run, and they have the 2 architects of it (Montana and Walsh) to oversee it. POTENTIAL WEAKNESS: Not as prolific as some of the other offenses, if it becomes a shootout not sure they have enough deep threats to compete.

Honorable Mentions: Baltimore Colts, Pittsburgh Steelers

Worst Passing Offenses:

1. Chicago Cardinals - Team's first offensive selection was in Round 5 (Isaac Bruce) and they only spent 2 of their top 8 picks on Offense; and it shows. Warner to Bruce is a nice combo and a natural pairing, but after that there is little depth. Don Maynard is a good #2 WR and Marcus Allen is a good receiver out of the backfield. Team didn't invest in the OL until later which is problematic because Warner was a deep thrower (and Maynard a deep WR) and I'm not sure he'll have time to deliver the ball.

2. Philadelphia Eagles - Warren Moon, while an all-timer and great player, is one of the worst starters in this game. Yes he is throwing to Gronk, which is a great weapon, but outsideof that it gets dicey. Wayne is not a #1 quality WR in this and Mac Speedie is a virtual unknown. Bobby Mitchell is a great 3rd WR however. Both Campbell and Bo were abysmal at catching passes out of the backfield. I'm just not sure what this passing offense does consistently outside throw to Gronk.

3. All-Stars - It's just difficult for me to see the passing offense being taken very seriously with their QB even with the quality WR corps. Easily the worst starting QB in the game.

Best Rushing Offenses:

1. Pittsburgh Steelers - Jim Brown augmented by Bronko Nagurski is some serious power. They are running behind a good offensive line led by Jonathon Ogden and Art Shell on the outside and Dermonti Dawson and Alan Faneca on the inside. Ditka was a very good blocker at TE as well and Peyton is one of the best Play-Action QBs ever, so defenses will always have that split second hesitation.

2. Detroit Wolverines - We've all heard the refrain: Barry never had a good team around him or an offensive line that can block. Well now Barry has the best OL in the game. Parker, Otto, Hannah, Yary and Larry Allen reads like a whos who of "greatest OL ever". The icing on the cake is Red "The Galloping Ghost" Grange.

3. Baltimore Colts - Features the single season NFL Yards leader Erick Dickerson and he is backed up by Roger Craig, giving them 2 1,500 yard rushers in the same backfield. Blocking for them is a line featuring Walter Jones, Gene Upshaw, Will Shields, and Bob St. Clair. John Mackey is a good blocking TE as well. Both HBs are capable of running up the gut or to the outside, if both are in there's simply no way to tell who is running or where.

Honorable Mentions: Philadelphia Eagles, Duluth Eskimos


Best Offenses:

1. Pittsburgh Steelers - Peyton Manning once again has a loaded offense. Peyton and Jim Brown have an incredible 15 All-Pro 1st Team selections between them. Add a top TE, top WR, top OL and plenty of depth (their worst receiving option is Mark Duper) and this offense is absolutely stacked. The only question I have is can Peyton and Brown coexist on a set number of touches?

2. Baltimore Colts - Is it fitting that a Peyton and a Brady led offense are 1 and 2? I sincerely hope these teams meet in the playoffs! Offense is incredibly balanced and can throw a variety of formations and looks at opposing defenses. Their twin TE set should be absolutely devastating. Had they been able to get BB as their HC it would have been teh icing on the cake.

3. Tennessee Titans - Did the Head Coach influence my decision? Absolutely! Reuniting perhaps the best Coach/QB combo in NFL history was perfect and the team has built a well balanced offense that should run the WCO to perfection.

Honorable Mention: Canton Bulldogs, Duluth Eskimos

[valade16]

Best Defensive Lines:

1. Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Strahan, Mean Joe Greene, Cortez Kennedy, Neil Smith

2. Minnesota Vikings - Jared Allen, Merlin Olsen, Joe Klecko, Carl Eller

3. Washington Senators - Deacon Jones, Randy White, Art Donovan, Doug Atkins

Honorable Mentions: Canton Bulldogs (Youngblood, Randle, McMichael, Humphrey), Houston Oilers (Dean, Lilly, Hampton, Freeney)

Best Linebackers:

1. All-Stars - Lawrence Taylor, Patrick Willis, Tom Jackson, Derrick Thomas

2. Decatur Staleys - Charles Haley, Mike Stratton, Junior Seau, Rickey Jackson

3. Washington Senators - Chris Hanburger, Dick Butkus, Sam Mills

Honorable Mention: PIttsburgh Steelers (Lanier, Nagurski, Lloyd), Kenosha Maroons (Ham, Huff, Joyner)

Best Secondaries:

1. Chicago Cardinals - CBs: Deion Sanders, Bobby Boyd. S: Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu

2. Houston Oilers - CBs: Night Train Lane, Eric Allen. S: Ronnie Lott (also NB), Steve Atwater, Jake Scott

3. Washington Senators - CBs: Mike Haynes, Lem Barney, Ronde Barber. S: Willie Wood, LeRoy Butler

Honorable Mentions: Los Angeles Dons (C. Woodson, Sherman, Easley, D. Woodson, Dillon), Duluth Eskimos (Blount, A. Williams, Dawkins, Shell)


Best Defenses:

1. All-Stars - Team features the monster pass rush of LT and DT off the edge which is scary enough, but the team also has a potent CB combo (Brown/Hayes), Ed Reed at Safety and Patrick Willis and Tom Jackson at LB. There's no time to throw and even if there was, there's probably nobody to throw to. Team waited on DL and still managed to get players that perfectly fit the defense. Alzado, Ted Washington and Haloti Ngata is a ton of size upfront that can stifle the run but also put pressure on the QB up the middle. This defense will be extremely hard to score on.

2. Washington Senators - Dick Butkus leads a defense that is good at every level. A monster offensive line led by Deacon Jones and Randy White, a stifling secondary led by Mike Haynes, Lem Barney and Willie Wood, and a versatile LB Corps which in addition to Butkus, features Hanburger and Sam Mills? This defense has it all. You can't overload the pass or run against this team, it is good at every level.

3. Houston Oilers - Defense is led by a secondary that features three of the hardest hitters of all-time in Night Train Lane, Ronnie Lott and Steve Atwater who were ranked 2nd, 4th, and 9th on NFL Networks "Top 10 most feared hitters" list. Team also features playmakers up front with Bob Lilly and Dan Hampton, as well as versatile playmaker at MLB (Brian Urlacher).

Honorable Mentions: Kenosha Maroons, Canton Bulldogs

Worst Defenses:

1. Baltimore Colts - Team chose to load up on offensive talent and it shows. Only 2 of their first 10 picks were on Defense (Singletary and Ken Houston). Underwhelming DL, a so so pass rush from Swilling and Brazile and an average CB duo don't bode well for this team. Singletary is there to clean things up vs. the run however.

2. Detroit Wolverines - Their first defensive player picked was in the 7th Round (S Ken Wilson). The team simply lacks top end defensive talent. They were able to find some quality players at all levels such as Chris Doleman at DL, Zach Thomas at LB and Lemar Parish/Louis Wright at CB. There's just very little talent that can completely take over a game at this level.

3. Tennessee Titans - There are some bright spots on this D, Jack Lambert holding down the middle, Leslie O'Neal and Julius Peppers providing the pass rush at DE and Law/Lynch in the secondary. The problem is after them there is very little quality to form a complete unit. Stan Jones, Gary Fencik and Dave Brown are definite weak points on the D and William Perry is more name than production. This defense seems easy to exploit.

[Wrench]

Alright I don't know what KTS is doing so I'm just going to try and get this thing finished. (Going to start it at 9:00 AM 8/27/2016)

You may select up to 4 more players IF you wish too, 25 players and a coach is all that is required. (For every two way player you are using you will have to take one less) (Only 29 positions and a coach can be filled) Keep in mind the decade requirements/maxes still applies. (So you can't add a 90-00's unless you have room)

There is also a THREE player limit on WR and TWO player limit on TE. Every other position has no limit.

Just use the draft thread to make selections, or drop/add guys if needed.

Also please wait at least one hour between FA adds. You can do as many Add/Drops as needed in any time.

[Wrench]

The Draft ends tomorrow at 9:00AM and Free Agency will start. Make sure you have 26 draft selections before then.

Please wait ONE hour between free agent adds when it starts. Use this as the Drop/Add thread as well. (If you drop someone you can add a guy immediately after).


You may select up to 4 more players IF you wish too, 25 players and a coach is all that is required. (For every two way player you are using you will have to take one less) (Max of 29 positions and a coach can be filled) Keep in mind the decade requirements/maxes still applies. (So you can't add a 90-00's unless you have room)

There is also a THREE player limit on WR and TWO player limit on TE. Every other position has no limit.

[SteelCurtain]

The Steelers will add 1960s All Decade Team member, Mr. Falcon Tommy Nobis as our reserve LBer!

[QB_Eagles]

When does this thing go to voting? I have written some stuff for my team but it's about 3/4th finished and I'm pretty busy until Wednesday.

[richiesaurus310]

49ers welcome home as a free agent CB Eric Wright

[richiesaurus310]

49ers add RB Paul Hornung

[SteelCurtain]

With our first pick of FA, the Steelers will take Hugh "The King" McElhenny!

[QB_Eagles]

Kenosha Maroons free agency:

Roger Brown, DT

[TDjacksonville]

Jethro pugh

[TDjacksonville]

When does this thing go to voting? I have written some stuff for my team but it's about 3/4th finished and I'm pretty busy until Wednesday.
I guess u missed the part 1 per hour;)

[SteelCurtain]

With our 2nd pick in FA, the Steelers will take our big nickel safety, Johnny "Blood" McNally!

[richiesaurus310]

49ers add LB John Anderson

[SteelCurtain]

Woth our 3rd FA pick-up, the Steelers will add AFL All Time DT Houston Antwine to beef up our run D.

[richiesaurus310]

49ers add LB Carl Banks

[QB_Eagles]

Speedy Duncan, CB

[The Jokemaker]

I drop Dante Lavelli due to the max limit of WRs of 3.

[The Jokemaker]

I'll take the explosive HOF runningback George McAfee with my first FA selection.

[TDjacksonville]

Give me Dante Lavelli.

[Wrench]

I'm thinking let FA go and let people finish their clubhouses by Monday at 8:00 PM.

All trades, picks and clubhouses will need to be done by then. Gives you the weekend, should be enough.


If KTS never shows I guess I will go though the houses and make sure everyone has played by the rules and we can start voting Tuesday.

[QB_Eagles]

Art Still, DE

[QB_Eagles]

I can't finish my clubhouse until Monday.

Well, I will try, but probably won't be able to.

[TDjacksonville]

Ollie Matson RB

[TDjacksonville]

Mike Michalske G

[TDjacksonville]

drop Steve Hutchinson

[TDjacksonville]

Luke Kuechly ILB

[richiesaurus310]

Isn't Luke Kuechley not eligible in this? He's only played 4 seasons.

[Wrench]

He isn't indeed, must have 5 seasons or be retired.

[TDjacksonville]

He isn't indeed, must have 5 seasons or be retired.


Isn't Luke Kuechley not eligible in this? He's only played 4 seasons.
He's in his 5th year. Season has essentially started so 5 years he's been playing.

Also he was drafted last years game so there's that.

[The Long Shot]

Vikings drop WR-John Jefferson and add RB-Billy Sims.


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[Wrench]

He's in his 5th year. Season has essentially started so 5 years he's been playing.

Also he was drafted last years game so there's that.

5 seasons completed, and who cares if he was last year. We didn't have this rule in place last year.

Don't be stupid, just replace him.

[TDjacksonville]

5 seasons completed, and who cares if he was last year. We didn't have this rule in place last year.

Don't be stupid, just replace him.
Rule was in place last year and nope.

[Wrench]

You sir are wrong, regardless the rule is very clear. If you don't want to be DQ'd I'd suggest a new player.


If you are drafting a current player, they must have a minimum of 5 years played in the NFL

[Wrench]

I cut Keith Byars, TE

[Wrench]

John David Crow, TE to replace him.

[Norm]

I can't finish my clubhouse until Monday.

Well, I will try, but probably won't be able to.

I could, but I'm not going to lol. I'll remember to do it tomorrow. I forgot all about this.

[QB_Eagles]

I assume TDJ is going to pick Steve Hutchinson back up, so I won't steal him away. ;)

Anyway, I updated my clubhouse with what I got, but can't finish it until tomorrow evening. So I would appreciate it if voting didn't start until Wednesday. :)

[Norm]

2. Minnesota Vikings - Jared Allen, Merlin Olsen, Joe Klecko, Carl Eller

How is this above

Reggie White
Buck Buchannon
Ernie Stautner
Willie Davis


..........

:/ I didn't even get honorable mention.

We're not longer friends Valade. lol

[Wrench]

BF1 beta dropped so you get a few more days to get your clubhouses in order.

[The Jokemaker]

Sucks about Bridge

[Norm]

BF1 beta dropped so you get a few more days to get your clubhouses in order.

It's being DDOS, get to work.

lol

[Wrench]

Ugh yea...

I went though them and messaged the 5 guys who still need to do them, give him a day or so.

I'll post who can be voted on like Friday afternoon when I get home from work.

[valade16]

Yeah not sure what happened there lol. clearly the rankings aren't perfect.

[The Jokemaker]

Sounds good, good work Wrench

[QB_Eagles]

Maroons drop CB Speedy Duncan :(

[Wrench]

Pittsburgh Steelers
Canton Bulldogs
San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans
Duluth Eskimos
Los Angeles Dons
Minnesota Vikings
Kenosha Maroons
Washington Senators
Houston Oilers
St. Louis Rams
Philadelphia Eagles
All Stars (Do not vote on his team with Kuechly, Jackson is the starter)

13 teams, send your ballots to me with them ranked 1st to 12th (You do not place your team)

[Norm]

Yeah not sure what happened there lol. clearly the rankings aren't perfect.

haha, I would have been fine with honorable mention. I felt dumb when the best part of my team wasn't even top 5.

[valade16]

haha, I would have been fine with honorable mention. I felt dumb when the best part of my team wasn't even top 5.

Yours is better than mine really lol, guess I was a homer on that one.

I'm not sure it's the best part of your D actually, your secondary is righteous. Very similar construction of your team to mine actually lol.

[Norm]

Yours is better than mine really lol, guess I was a homer on that one.

I'm not sure it's the best part of your D actually, your secondary is righteous. Very similar construction of your team to mine actually lol.

I just figured since I had 4 HOF DL and I took them all relatively early that it was probably the best part i guess

[TDjacksonville]

Pittsburgh Steelers
Canton Bulldogs
San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans
Duluth Eskimos
Los Angeles Dons
Minnesota Vikings
Kenosha Maroons
Washington Senators
Houston Oilers
St. Louis Rams
Philadelphia Eagles
All Stars (Do not vote on his team with Kuechly, Jackson is the starter)

13 teams, send your ballots to me with them ranked 1st to 12th (You do not place your team) Kuechly is the STARTER. I give 0 F's about this-tick tack 5 year rule. hes a 5th year player Based on NFL Experience. he plays 1 Snap which he will by the time this game is wrapped he will be eligible.

the 5 year rule isnt Clearly defined. a guy like Bo Jackson can play 4 years and Be drafted cuz he retired but Kuechly cant be drafted cuz hes had 4 years of Stats and is active. makes 0 sense if u asked me.

[Norm]

Kuechly is the STARTER. I give 0 F's about this-tick tack 5 year rule. hes a 5th year player Based on NFL Experience. he plays 1 Snap which he will by the time this game is wrapped he will be eligible.

the 5 year rule isnt Clearly defined. a guy like Bo Jackson can play 4 years and Be drafted cuz he retired but Kuechly cant be drafted cuz hes had 4 years of Stats and is active. makes 0 sense if u asked me.

That rule shouldn't exist but it's pretty obvious according to the rules he's not eligible dude.

[TDjacksonville]

That rule shouldn't exist but it's pretty obvious according to the rules he's not eligible dude.
he is eligible as soon as 1 snap tho ;)
that would give him "5 years"

[QB_Eagles]

Come on now, TDJ, just pick up Hutchinson again and be done with it.

Kuechly is very clearly not allowed according to the rules. Even when he plays 1 snap he hasn't yet played a full year.

Besides that, in my opinion, changing Kuechly and Michalske for Jackson and Hutchinson makes your team worse.

[TDjacksonville]

All-Stars Drop LB Tom Jackson

[The Long Shot]

You're outvoted, tdj. Change it.


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[TDjacksonville]

You're outvoted, tdj. Change it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk lol nope. i dont have to do anything

[Wrench]

Then you don't get voted on :punish:


Not sure why you are making this such a big deal, Jackson to Kuechly doesn't make your team any better. Rule is very easy to read in that an active player much have 5 years played, Kuechly has 4. Therefore you can't have him.

[TDjacksonville]

Then you don't get voted on :punish:


Not sure why you are making this such a big deal, Jackson to Kuechly doesn't make your team any better. Rule is very easy to read in that an active player much have 5 years played, Kuechly has 4. Therefore you can't have him.
according to the NFL hes a 5th year player. he plays the next game hes got "5 years". its completely dumb to say u cant have young current stud but u can have for example Bo Jackson who doesn't have 5 years but u can pick him cuz hes retired.

[Wrench]

according to the NFL hes a 5th year player. he plays the next game hes got "5 years". its completely dumb to say u cant have young current stud but u can have for example Bo Jackson who doesn't have 5 years but u can pick him cuz hes retired.

Does not compute.

[TDjacksonville]

Does not compute.
5 years with a game played counts as 5 years.
He plays Thursday so he would be by definition having played nfl for 5 years;)

[Wrench]

The draft is over, he has 4 years played. It's not hard to understand.

[Norm]

I'm voting TDj #1

FIGHT THE POWER

And just change it you goof.

I'll probably do my voting tomorrow, I'm just not in the mood for it today and I don't want to half *** it like usual or just copy someone else's like got me in trouble once lol

[SteelCurtain]

I'll send mine in tonight. Been working a ton lately.

[Wrench]

I only have 4 of the 12 ballots in right now, need to start sending them in guys.

[richiesaurus310]

I think we waited too long to finish this up

[Norm]

I don't wanna do anything doe...I'll try and do them later. Hopefully I'll feel motivated for once.

[BDawk4Prez]

Tdj proving again why people didn't like him playing these games. Leave bo alone!

I'll send mine tomorrow.

[TDjacksonville]

Tdj proving again why people didn't like him playing these games. Leave bo alone!

I'll send mine tomorrow.

tell me how much sense it is to have a Guy Like Bo who had played 4 seasons in the NFL and is retired and eligible and a Current guy like Kuechly whos played just about the same amount and is 5 times the NFL player Bo is isnt.

[BDawk4Prez]

tell me how much sense it is to have a Guy Like Bo who had played 4 seasons in the NFL and is retired and eligible and a Current guy like Kuechly whos played just about the same amount and is 5 times the NFL player Bo is isnt.

It makes sense because there are rules. The rules are clear.

Same reason you can't count an all decades team as the year to slot someone, it sucks, but it's a rule.

Same reason I can't call moon an 80s player because his time in Canada doesn't count. It's the rule.

Follow the rules. Simple.

[valade16]

Sorry Wrench, came down with Pneumonia and was bed ridden for the past week. I'll get mine in tonight.

[Wrench]

I now have 8 ballots, here is who I'm waiting on. Please send them in soon or your team will be eliminated.

Tennessee Titans
Los Angeles Dons
Minnesota Vikings
Philadelphia Eagles
St Louis All Stars

[TDjacksonville]

I now have 8 ballots, here is who I'm waiting on. Please send them in soon or your team will be eliminated.

Tennessee Titans
Los Angeles Dons
Minnesota Vikings
Philadelphia Eagles
St Louis All Stars
As u said" I'm dq'ed "for Luke

[Wrench]

That's your own fault, I told people to vote on your team without him and they have done so. But you can be that way, I could careless.

Eagles is the only one left then, I'll give him the rest of the day and then tomorrow after work will tally the votes.


With how long this has taken with KTS leaving I'm thinking top 6 to playoffs or should we just do top 4? 4 might be best with the season starting, that way we only have three games.

[valade16]

That's your own fault, I told people to vote on your team without him and they have done so. But you can be that way, I could careless.

Eagles is the only one left then, I'll give him the rest of the day and then tomorrow after work will tally the votes.


With how long this has taken with KTS leaving I'm thinking top 6 to playoffs or should we just do top 4? 4 might be best with the season starting, that way we only have three games.

How many teams are still left? I think if think it should be 8 just for ease of scheduling (and inclusivity). That's 7 games over 3 iterations. Not too many IMO.

[Wrench]

Only 12 (possible only 11), 8 is way to many.

[Norm]

Only 12 (possible only 11), 8 is way to many.

6 with a bye?

[richiesaurus310]

6 with the first 2 getting a bye would be the same amount of rounds as 8? Both would have 3 rounds.

[TDjacksonville]

That's your own fault, I told people to vote on your team without him and they have done so. But you can be that way, I could careless.

Eagles is the only one left then, I'll give him the rest of the day and then tomorrow after work will tally the votes.


With how long this has taken with KTS leaving I'm thinking top 6 to playoffs or should we just do top 4? 4 might be best with the season starting, that way we only have three games.i told them not to.
u said if i play him hes DQed and theres no Tom jackson on my depth chart so your essentially putting a guy i didnt have on my roster on my roster.

[QB_Eagles]

With how long this has taken with KTS leaving I'm thinking top 6 to playoffs or should we just do top 4? 4 might be best with the season starting, that way we only have three games.
I'd say 8.

The question really only is 8 or 4. Doing 6 with byes doesn't shorten how long this is going to run only how many matches there are.

[Wrench]

I think he was talking about maybe 6 total with 2 getting byes, that would be good too. two games, two games and then SB.

[QB_Eagles]

I think he was talking about maybe 6 total with 2 getting byes, that would be good too. two games, two games and then SB.
Doesn't really matter lengthwise. With 8 you have: 4 games, 2 games, SB.

[Wrench]

It matters with them being put in the main and the season starting tomorrow. 4 game threads clogs it up. I'll work on doing the rankings tonight.

[Wrench]

1st: Pittsburgh Steelers avg 2.1 (High 1st Low 4th)
2nd: Canton Bulldogs avg. 2.2 (High 1st Low 8th)
3rd: Duluth Eskimos avg. 4.5 (High 2nd Low 7th)
4th: Los Angeles Dons avg. 5.1 (High 2nd Lowest 10th)
5th: Houston Oilers avg. 5.4 (High 2nd Low 7th)
6th: San Francisco 49ers avg. 6 (High 3rd Lowest 11th)
7th: Kenosha Maroons avg. 7 (High 3rd Low 12th)
8th: Minnesota Vikings avg. 7.1 (High 5th Low 10th)
9th: Washington Senators avg. 7.9 (High 2nd (Low 11th)
10th: Philadelphia Eagles avg. 8.4 (High 1st Low 12th)
11th: St. Louis Rams avg. 8.5 (High 4th Low 12th)

[The Long Shot]

I'm 8th in the rankings so I vote that we have an 8-team playoff. ;)

EDIT: In all seriousness, the difference between a four game first round and a two game first round is hardly earth-shattering.


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[richiesaurus310]

I'm the 6th seed I dgaf either way 😎

[The Jokemaker]

Woo I'm 3rd seed!

[Norm]

Doesn't really matter lengthwise. With 8 you have: 4 games, 2 games, SB.
Top voted teams should get an actual advantage

[Norm]

4th. Nice. Teams above me are really legit too

[QB_Eagles]

Top voted teams should get an actual advantage
They face the lowered voted teams, don't they?

I don't know why you are responding to this now. I argued for 8 teams before playoff seeding was out. Am I supposed to argue even harder now that I know I came in 7th?

[Norm]

They face the lowered voted teams, don't they?

I don't know why you are responding to this now. I argued for 8 teams before playoff seeding was out. Am I supposed to argue even harder now that I know I came in 7th?
Lol. I've always pushed byes. They play lower seeds but upsets are so with the main voting

[valade16]

When are the matchups going up?

[The Jokemaker]

Not ONE person has mentioned my amazing clubhouse and nicknames. Does anybody else have Method Man and Ghostface Killah on their team? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

[Wrench]

Need to figure out how many teams and what not before we do match ups. Have to get ahold of one of the NFL mods as well, I just have been busy with work.

This wasn't my job to do this to start but I'm trying lol.

[Norm]

Not ONE person has mentioned my amazing clubhouse and nicknames. Does anybody else have Method Man and Ghostface Killah on their team? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

I mentioned it in my voting PM. I said "I'm annoyed I had to read that" or something. lol

[The Jokemaker]

I mentioned it in my voting PM. I said "I'm annoyed I had to read that" or something. lol

:'(

I try and put some flair in things...

[The Long Shot]

RIP.

Seriously, I may not be playing these games much longer if we're going to continue not seeing them through to their conclusion.


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[Norm]

I keep thinking I'll post them but IDK what's going on at this point.

[The Long Shot]

I keep thinking I'll post them but IDK what's going on at this point.

Yeah. And FYI the last person I'm bashing here is Wrench; I applaud him for taking the burden midway through. But this seems to be a common theme with these games recently, which annoys me.

[Norm]

Maybe we need someone who's designated to do the after game stuff. The voting, the matchups. The guys who do the regular game get too burnt out.

[The Jokemaker]

Maybe we need someone who's designated to do the after game stuff. The voting, the matchups. The guys who do the regular game get too burnt out.

This is a good idea.

[Norm]

Have to remember it for the next time before the game when we do suggestions or whatevs.

[valade16]

If anyone is still interested I can post the matchups.

[Norm]

If anyone is still interested I can post the matchups.

Might as well.

[Wrench]

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