2015 ATRD Archive Thread

[homestarunner93]

Canton requests Eric Dickerson. They have 30 minutes OTC for their second pick since their second player on the list was taken.

[Plague]

Eric Dickerson and Tim Brown

[Plague]

Are the draft times PST? EST? CST? MST?

[BDawk4Prez]

Chuck Bednarick - Eagles

[homestarunner93]

Are the draft times PST? EST? CST? MST?

EST. Sorry. I will add that. Nice picks, by the way.

[The Long Shot]

are the draft times pst? Est? Cst? Mst?

est.

[Plague]

EST. Sorry. I will add that. Nice picks, by the way.

It's tough. The goal of the game is not to pick who you like best, but to pick who you think everyone else thinks is the best.

[killthesux]

Pick 58 is OTB, looking to trade down

[homestarunner93]

It's tough. The goal of the game is not to pick who you like best, but to pick who you think everyone else thinks is the best.

Yep. That is part of the challenge.

[Norm]

It's tough. The goal of the game is not to pick who you like best, but to pick who you think everyone else thinks is the best.

So true.

[The Jokemaker]

So your team is in essence a reflection of how you view others. Deep psychological thinking here

[The Long Shot]

So your team is in essence a reflection of how you view others. Deep psychological thinking here

PSD: Psychological Sports Daily

[BDawk4Prez]

EST. Sorry. I will add that. Nice picks, by the way.

What about me? :sad2:

[Ebbs]

Worst funking homer picks ^.

We expected nothing less

[homestarunner93]

What about me? :sad2:

Liked the first turn better, but certainly not bad.

[Ebbs]

Predict which round I draft a cowboy.

[Norm]

Predict which round I draft a cowboy.

Every round after this?

[homestarunner93]

Steagles request Earl Campbell

[BDawk4Prez]

Liked the first turn better, but certainly not bad.

Tony, chuck, both?

[homestarunner93]

Tony, chuck, both?

Both solid. Gonzalez a little bit of a reach.

[homestarunner93]

Maroons request Dan Hampton.

[Ebbs]

Kevin Greene

[homestarunner93]

Triangles select John Randle.

[killthesux]

Titans select CB Darrell Green

[homestarunner93]

Cowboys request Calvin Johnson.

[The Jokemaker]

Per the All Americans list, they select the big man Warren Sapp, Defensive Tackle.

[rawz]

finally off work! thanks homestarunner93

[homestarunner93]

You got it

[The Long Shot]

Vikings will continue the trend of over-drafting wide receivers and will select WR-Marvin Harrison.

[BCB mwat15]

62. Staleys select S Larry Wilson.

[StriveGreatness]

#64 available

[The Jokemaker]

With the 63rd pick, the Miami Dolphins select the flamboyant physical freak Terrell Owens, Wide Receiver.

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Ed Reed, FS

[AP=MVP]

Roller takes John Hannah

[Wrench]

KTS has my list, so don't be skipping me lol

[Quinnsanity]

We'll take Lee Roy Selmon

[warfelg]

Hey guys, can you PM me as well as VM me when I'm up. Throughout the day I tend to use the tapatalk app, which doesn't notify you of VM's.

I think that should go as a good rule of thumb. Because I think it would be a raw deal for someone to be skipped because they weren't checking VM's in an app that doesn't let you.

[Wrench]

Junior Seau, LB

[Andrei00]

Jets are looking to trade down from our 5th round pick. PM me or Quinn if you're interested.

[homestarunner93]

By the way, no need to wait on me for skips with the timeslot system. If someone is past their time, the next team is free to pick.

[rawz]

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[rawz]

so its 1124 eastern, which, i believe should be my time slot, so i picked... am i correct that that was ok?

[rawz]

im always looking to trade... any player i have is on the block. :D

[rawz]

plan.. Run, run and run some more. Use Bo Jackson to pound it. Use gayers and Curtis to mix it up, and to catch lots of short passes. create mismatches. then, when they cant take it anymore, blow the top off with a deep bomb to the fastest man on the field, and the tallest calvin Johnson. The line we rebuilt for the most part the best line in the history of the nfl, the 90's cowboys line. Lots of nasty-ness. Will over power, and out dominate everyone. On defense, they will stay fresh, cause of the offense we run. Just play it safe. 4 man rush, zone coverage. Don't allow anything big. grind it out. haley, Harvey will get sacks. big man in the middle will clog it up to stop the run. Our linebackers are fierce, and our safeties are tier 1, and will intimidate receivers. We have turnover causing players.


KANSAS COWBOYS
Offensn
George Blanda QB 50's, 60's, 70's
Warren Moon QB 80's/90's

Gale Sayers RB 60's HOF
Bo Jackson RB 80's
Curtis Martin RB 90's

Calvin Johnson WR 2000's
Drew Pearson WR 70's

Wayne Millner TE 30's/40's

Tony Boselli LT 90/00
Bruce Matthews C/G 80's/90's HOF
Joe Watson C 50's
Larry Little Guard HOF 70
Erik Williams RT 90

Nate Newton, G/OT 90's
Mark Stepnoski, C 90's

Defense

Charles Haley DE 90s HOF
Sam Adams DT 90/00
William the fridge perry DT 80's
Harvey Martin DE 70's

Mike singletary LB 80's HOF
Chuck Howley LB 60's
Joe Watson LB 50's

Emmitt Thomas CB 70's HOF
Jimmy hill CB 60's

troy polamalu S 2000's
Jim Thorpe S 20's

20-40's=3
50's =3
60's=3
70's=4
80's=3
90/00=7

[Ebbs]

I'm confused don't see where the time slots are listed.

[homestarunner93]

I'm confused don't see where the time slots are listed.

Announcements

[homestarunner93]

I'm confused don't see where the time slots are listed.

Announcements

[homestarunner93]

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[homestarunner93]

Colts send:
Gino Marchetti
Round 4 (pick OTC)
Round 12

wolverines send:
Derrick Thomas
Round 7
Round 11

[Ebbs]

CB Mike Haynes

[Ebbs]

Question: in the case of Marshall Faulk who is 90's/00's equally. Can I sit on it and make him whichever is better for me later or do I have to declare him one and stick with it?

[Andrei00]

Question: in the case of Marshall Faulk who is 90's/00's equally. Can I sit on it and make him whichever is better for me later or do I have to declare him one and stick with it?

Weren't 90's and 00's counting as one decade?

[Wrench]

Weren't 90's and 00's counting as one decade?

Need 2 for each, with 7 as a max for 90's and up.

[Andrei00]

Need 2 for each, with 7 as a max for 90's and up.

I see. Thanks!

[unleashthebeast]

Ken Houston to the Colts

[Wrench]

Michael Strahan, DE

[unleashthebeast]

Colts, will get all the **** up later

QB: Fran Tarkenton (60s/70s)
RB: Walter Payton (80s)
FB: Marion Motley (40s)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (00s)
WR: Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch (50s)
WR: Charley Taylor (70s)
WR: Chad Johnson (00s)

LT: Bob Brown (60s)
LG: George Connor (50s)
C: George Svendsen (30s)
RG: Gene Hickerson (60s)
RT: Ron Mix (60s)


DT: Vince Wilfork (00s)
NT: Curley Culp (70s)
DE: Bruce Smith (90s)

OLB: Derrick Thomas (90s)
ILB: Marion Motley (40s)
ILB: George Connor (50s)
Nickel LB: Luke Kuechly (00s)
OLB: Andre Tippett (80s)


CB: Champ Bailey (00s)
FS: Deron Cherry (80s)
SS: Jack Tatum (70s)
CB: Louis Wright (80s)
NB: Pat Fischer (60s)

[StriveGreatness]

73 otb

[Andrei00]

New York Jets

"The Gang Green"

Offense:

*QB: Aaron Rodgers (00's) -- 4x Pro Bowl (2009, 2011, 2012, 2014), 2x First Team All-Pro (2011, 2014), 1x Second Team All-Pro (2012), Super Bowl Champion (XLV), Super Bowl MVP, 2x NFL MVP (2011, 2014), AP Athlete of the Year (2011), 2x FedEx Air NFL Player of the Year (2011, 2014). NFL Records for Highest career passer rating in a regular season (106.4), Only quarterback to have a career rating of over 100.0 in both regular and posteason; Most consecutive seasons of over 100.0 rating (5); Lowest career interception % (1.6); Best TD-to-INT ratio all-time (4.00); Third highest career completion percentage (65.9%); Most TDs over 70 yards; Only quarterback with over 4,000 yards in each of his first two seasons as a starter; 2,286/3,475 passes; 65.8% completion percentage; 28,578 yards; 226 TDs; 57 INTs; 106.0 QB Rating
*RB: Ernie Nevers (40's)-- HoF, 5x All-Pro (1926, 1927, 1929, 1930, 1931), NFL 1920s All-Decade Team, NFL 50th Anniversary All-Time Team, NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time team, NFL Record for points scored in a single game (40); ranked #89 on NFL Network's Top 100 Greatest Players; called "the football player without a fault" by Coach Glenn Scobey "Pop" Warner
Situational RB: Chuck "The Spin Doctor" Foreman (70's) -- 5x Pro Bowl (1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977), 4x All-Pro (1974, 1975, 1976, 1977), NFL Rookie of the Year (1973); NFC Player of the Year by Sporting News (1974), by UPI (1976); 5,950 rushing yards, 3.8 yards/run average, 53 TDs; 3,156 receiving yards, 9.0 yards/catch average, 23 TDs; Very elusive back and a very solid option as a pass-catcher out of the backfield
**FB: Jim Brown (60's) -- HoF, 9x Pro Bowl, 8x All-Pro ('57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '63, '64, '65), 1957 NFL Rookie of the Year, 4x NFL MVPs (1957, 1958, 1963, 1965), 8x NFL Rushing Champion, NFL 1960s All-Decade Team, NFL 50th Anniversary Team, NFL 75th Anniversary Team; Ranked #2 on NFL Network's Top 100 Greatest Players; named by Sporting News as the greatest football player ever; 12,312 rushing yards, 5.2 yards/run average, 104.3 yards/game average (highest all-time), 106 rushing TDs; 262 receptions, 2,499 receiving yards, 20 receiving TDs
*WR: Michael "The Playmaker" Irvin (90's) -- HoF, 5x Pro Bowl (1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995), 1x First Team All-Pro (1991), 2x Second Team All-Pro (1992, 1993), NFL 1990s All-Decade Team; Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor, Dallas Cowboys all-time leader in receiving yards; Ranked #92 on NFL Network's Top 100 Greatest Players; NFL Record for single season games of 100+ receiving yards (11); 750 receptions, 11,904 yards, 65 TDs
*WR: Raymond Berry (60's) -- HoF, 6x Pro Bowl (1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1963, 1964), 3x First Team All-Pro (1958, 1959, 1960), 2x Second Team All-Pro (1957, 1965), NFL 1950s All-Decade Team, NFL 50th Anniversary Team, NFL 75th Anniversary Team; NFL Record for most catches in a league championship game (12); 631 receptions, 9,275 yards, 68 TDs
Slot WR: Wes Chandler (80's) -- 4x Pro Bowl (1979, 1982, 1983, 1985), 1x First Team All-Pro (1982), 1x Second Team All-Pro (1979); San Diego Chargers Hall of Fame, San Diego Chargers 40th & 50th Anniversary Team; Holds NFL record for most receiving yards per game in a single season; 559 receptions, 8,966 yards, 56 TDs
*TE: Todd Christensen (80's) -- 5x Pro Bowl (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987), 4x All-Pro (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986); 461 receptions, 5,872 yards, 41 TDs
*LT: Richmond Webb (90's) -- 7x Pro Bowl (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996), 4x All-Pro (1992, 1993, 1994, 1995), NFL 1990s All-Decade Team, UPI AFL-AFC Rookie of the Year, Dolphins Honor Roll
*LG: Walt Kiesling (40's) -- HoF, 3x All-Pro (1929, 1930, 1932), NFL 1920s All-Decade Team
*C: Jim Ringo (50's) -- HoF, 10x Pro Bowl (1957-1965, 1967), 6x First Team All-Pro (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963), 3x Second Team All-Pro (1958, 1964, 1966), NFL 1960s All-Decade Team
*RG: Bill Fralic (80's) -- 4x Pro Bowl (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989), 2x AP First Team All-Pro (1986, 1987), 2x NEA First Team All-Pro (1986, 1988), 1x AP Second Team All-Pro (1988), NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
*RT: Roosevelt "Rosey" Brown (50's) -- HoF, 9x Pro Bowl (1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1962, 1964, 1965), 6x First Team All-Pro (1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1962), NFL 1950s All-Decade Team, NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team; Ranked #57 on The Sporting News' list of The 100 Greatest Football Players

Defense:

*DE: Eugene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb (50's) -- 3x Pro Bowl (1958, 1959, 1962), 2x AP First Team All-Pro (1958, 1959), 3x NEA First Team All-Pro (1958, 1959, 1961)
*NT: Haloti Ngata (00's) -- 5x Pro Bowl (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013), 5x All-Pro (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012); He was voted #17 on NFL's list of Top 100 Players of 2010, #9 of 2011, #42 of 2012, #45 of 2013, #82 of 2015; 445 tackles, 25.5 sacks, 5 INTs, 6 FFs
*DE: Rosey Grier (60's) -- 2x Pro Bowl (1956, 1960), 3x All-Pro (1956, 1958, 1959); Member of the "Fearsome Foursome" with the Los Angeles Rams; 44.5 career sacks, 2 safeties
*ROLB: Lee Roy Selmon (70s) -- HoF, 6x Pro Bowl (1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984), 3x First Team All-Pro (1979, 1980, 1982), 2x Second Team All-Pro (1978, 1984), NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1979), NFL Defensive Lineman of the Year (1979), NFL 1980s All-Decade Team; Voted to Pro Football Weekly's All-Time 3-4 Defensive Team; "A grown man at work among a bunch of boys"; 742 tackles, 78.5 sacks, 28.5 FFs
*ILB: Jack Lambert (70's) -- HoF, 9x Pro Bowl ('75-'83), 7x First Team All-Pro (1975, 1976, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983), 1x Second Team All-Pro (1978), 2x Pittsburgh Steelers Team MVP, NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (1974), NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1976), NEA NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1983), NFL 1970s All-Decade Team, NFL 1980s All-Decade Team, NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team; Ranked #29 on NFL Network's Top 100 Players All-Time; Ranked #8 on NFL Network's Most Feared Tacklers All-Time, #5 on NFL Network's Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time; Jersey #58 retired; 1,479 tackles (1,045 solo), 23.5 sacks, 28 INTs
*ILB: Randy Gradishar (70's) -- 7x Pro Bowl (1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1983), 5x First Team All-Pro (1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981), 1x Second Team All-Pro (1983), NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1978), 2x Denver Broncos MVP, 2x Football Digest Linebacker of the Year; Voted to Pro Football Weekly's All-Time 3-4 Defensive Team; Several Times finalist for HoF; 2,049 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 20 INTs
*LOLB: Neil Smith (90's) -- 6x Pro Bowl (1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997), 1x First Team All-Pro (1993), 3x Second Team All-Pro (1992, 1995, 1997), NFL 1990s All-Decade Team; 624 Tackles, 104.5 sacks, 4 INTs
*CB: Lester Hayes (80's) -- 5x Pro Bowl (1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984), 1x First Team All-Pro (1980), 5x Second Team All-Pro (1979, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984), NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1980), NFL 1980s All-Decade Team; Recognized as one the greatest shutdown corners in NFL history; 39 career INTs
*CB: Ronde Barber (00's) -- 5x Pro Bowl (2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008), 3x First Team All-Pro (2001, 2004, 2005), 2x Second Team All-Pro (2002, 2006), NFL 2000s All-Decade Team; 1,231 tackles, 28 sacks, 166 pass deflections, 47 INTs, 15 FFs, 12 TDs
NB: Nnamdi Asomugha (00's) -- 3x Pro Bowl (2008, 2009, 2010), 4x All-Pro (2006, 2008, 2009, 2010), NFL 2000s All-Decade Team (Fox Sports, USA Today), 2x Oakland Raiders MVP; Established himself as a shutdown corner and one of the, if not the, best in the league during his time; 407 tackles, 2.0 sacks, 72 pass deflections, 15 INTs, 2 FFs
*FS: George McAfee (40's) -- HoF, 1x First Team All-Pro (1941), NFL 1940s All-Decade Team, NFL 75th Anniversary Team; Chicago Bears #5 retired; 25 career INTs
*SS: Kenny Easley (80's) -- 5x Pro Bowl (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987), 4x First Team All-Pro (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985), 1x Second Team All-Pro (1987), NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1984), NFL 1980s All-Decade Team, Seattle Seahawks 35th Anniversary Team; 8 sacks, 32 INTs, 3 TDs

[Andrei00]

Raymond Berry, WR

[homestarunner93]

Question: in the case of Marshall Faulk who is 90's/00's equally. Can I sit on it and make him whichever is better for me later or do I have to declare him one and stick with it?

You can wait until later. Basically don't care until clubhouses are locked at the end of the game.

[Ebbs]

You can wait until later. Basically don't care until clubhouses are locked at the end of the game.

Ok sweet.

[AP=MVP]

Paul Krause - Roller

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Jim Parker

[The Jokemaker]

With the 74th pick, the Miami Dolphins select cornerback Herb Adderley.

[BCB mwat15]

I can't figure out how to search from tapatalk. If this guy is gone then skip me and I'll make it up later.

75. Staleys select TE Kellen Winslow

[The Long Shot]

With the 76th pick, the Vikings select CB-Willie Brown.

[TDjacksonville]

77 all americans select ozzie newsome

[Ebbs]

Are the top 10 corners and WR's all gone now?

[rawz]

cowboys take troy polamalu safety

[Wrench]

Willie Lanier, LB

[homestarunner93]

Triangles select LaDanian Tomlinson

[Ebbs]

Ugh, hmm what to do

[Ebbs]

Forrest Gregg

[The Jokemaker]

With the 82nd pick, the Miami Dolphins select linebacker Bobby Bell

[homestarunner93]

Steagles skipped

[BDawk4Prez]

Darrelle Shaver Revis

[Plague]

Can canton make both of theur picks now?

[Plague]

Cantons first pick emmit smith

[Plague]

Cantons second pick te john mackey

[BDawk4Prez]

Joe Schmidt, welcome to Philly.

[homestarunner93]

Westy has missed a pick already, so he's skipped

[homestarunner93]

MOAR TIME SLOTS

Round 7

103. Baltimore Colts - 4:15-4:30
104. Duluth Eskimos - 4:30-5:00
105. New York Jets - 5:00-5:30
106. Providence Steam Roller - 5:30-6:00
107. Los Angeles Raiders - 6:00-6:30
108. Miami Dolphins - 6:30-7:00
109. Decatur Staleys 7:00-7:30
110. Minnesota Vikings - 7:30-8:00
111. Buffalo All-Americans - 8:00-8:30
112. Kansas City Cowboys - 8:30-9:00
113. Tennessee Titans - 9:00-9:30
114. Dayton Triangles - 9:30-10:00
115. Baltimore Colts (via Wolverines) - 10:00-10:30
116. Pottsville Maroons - 10:30-11:00
117. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 11:00-11:30
118. Philadelphia Eagles - 11:30-12:00 AM
119. Canton Bulldogs - 7/29 AM 10:00-10:15

Round 8

120. Canton Bulldogs - 10:15-10:30
121. Philadelphia Eagles - 10:30-11:00
122. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 11:00-11:30
123. Pottsville Maroons - 11:30-12:00
124. Detroit Wolverines - PM 12:00-12:30
125. Dayton Triangles - 12:30-1:00
126. Tennessee Titans - 1:00-1:30
127. Kansas City Cowboys - 1:30-2:00
128. Buffalo All-Americans - 2:00-2:30
129. Minnesota Vikings - 2:30-3:00
130. Decatur Staleys - 3:00-3:30
131. Pottsville Maroons (via Dolphins) - 3:30-4:00
132. Los Angeles Raiders - 4:00-4:30
133. Providence Steam Roller - 4:30-5:00
134. New York Jets - 5:00-5:30
135. Duluth Eskimos - 5:30-6:00
136. Detroit Wolverines (via Colts) - 6:00-6:15

Round 9

137. Baltimore Colts - 6:15-6:30
138. Duluth Eskimos - 6:30-7:00
139. New York Jets - 7:00-7:30
140. Providence Steam Roller - 7:30-8:00
141. Los Angeles Raiders - 8:00-8:30
142. Miami Dolphins - 8:30-9:00
143. Decatur Staleys - 9:00-9:30
144. Minnesota Vikings - 9:30-10:00
145. Buffalo All-Americans - 10:00-10:30
146. Kansas City Cowboys - 10:30-11:00
147. Tennessee Titans - 11:00-11:30
148. Dayton Triangles - 11:30-12:00 AM
149. Detroit Wolverines - 7/30 AM 10:00-10:30
150. Pottsville Maroons - 10:30-11:00
151. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 11:00-11:30
152. Philadelphia Eagles - 11:30-12:00
153. Canton Bulldogs - PM 12:00-12:15

Round 10

154. Canton Bulldogs - 12:15-12:30
155. Philadelphia Eagles - 12:30-1:00
156. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 1:00-1:30
157. Pottsville Maroons - 1:30-2:00
158. Detroit Wolverines - 2:00-2:30
159. Dayton Triangles - 2:30-3:00
160. Tennessee Titans - 3:00-3:30
161. Kansas City Cowboys - 3:30-4:00
162. Buffalo All-Americans - 4:00-4:30
163. Minnesota Vikings - 4:30-5:00
164. Decatur Staleys - 5:00-5:30
165. Miami Dolphins - 5:30-6:00
166. Los Angeles Raiders - 6:00-6:30
167. Providence Steam Roller - 6:30-7:00
168. New York Jets - 7:00-7:30
169. Tennessee Titans (via Eskimos) - 7:30-8:00
170. Baltimore Colts - 8:00-8:15

[homestarunner93]

Maroons skipped

[unleashthebeast]

Colts here will take one bad *** mother ****er. FB/LB Marion Motley

[homestarunner93]

Triangles take DE Richard Dent.

[killthesux]

Titans select WR James Lofton

[TDjacksonville]

I'll make my pick since I'm off of work tomorrow

[TDjacksonville]

Sent board to homestar. Don't use my old board.

[warfelg]

With their skipped pick the Pottsville Maroons select Steve Van Buren, RB/CB

[rawz]

Cowboys take Jim thorpe

[The Long Shot]

Sayers-Jackson-Thorpe would be a killer lineup if we were playing in the 1920's.

[homestarunner93]

AAs request Emlen Tunnell

[The Long Shot]

With the 95th pick, the Vikings will select CB-Dick LeBeau.

[TDjacksonville]

Sayers-Jackson-Thorpe would be a killer lineup if we were playing in the 1920's.
Thorpes a bit overrated. No stats to prove or disprove how good he was.

I did like that lebeau pick

[homestarunner93]

Thorpes a bit overrated. No stats to prove or disprove how good he was.

I did like that lebeau pick

Didn't you take him in like the 2nd round last year?

[TDjacksonville]

Didn't you take him in like the 2nd round last year?
Probably but then I realized how hard he was to sell

[homestarunner93]

Probably but then I realized how hard he was to sell

"hard sell" and "overrated" are two entirely different things

[rawz]

idk.. he wasn't just a good football player either. was said to be the greatest athlete of the 20th century. won Olympic gold medals, played multiple professional sports, and was an all American...

plus, you start talking players before 1960, is there any player with better name recognition? I think everyone knows or has heard of jim Thorpe. and at round 6, think its good value.

first all time redraft, so I could be mistaken, but, IMO, you have an all time redraft, this guy needs to be in on it. :)

[Plague]

The negative when playing a game of peoples opinion is that its hard to have a accurate opinion of a player you never seen player before. Thats why so many people dismiss Wilt Chamberlin or Oscar Robertson in comparison to Michael Jordan, and almost surely 20-30 years from now people will dismiss Michael Jordan for some more recent talent.

[warfelg]

Jim Thorpe and Jim Brown were greats because they both played other sports. In fact both had said if there was money (like any) in lacrosse that they might not have played football. Both altered the sport of lacrosse to where there were rule changes.

[BCB mwat15]

Staleys select LB Ted Hendricks

[TDjacksonville]

idk.. he wasn't just a good football player either. was said to be the greatest athlete of the 20th century. won Olympic gold medals, played multiple professional sports, and was an all American...

plus, you start talking players before 1960, is there any player with better name recognition? I think everyone knows or has heard of jim Thorpe. and at round 6, think its good value.

first all time redraft, so I could be mistaken, but, IMO, you have an all time redraft, this guy needs to be in on it. :)
Yes but who is too say he dominated the nfl. Yes he was an exceptional athlete and that could have dominated in the very early years of the nfl and other professional leagues. I highly doubt there was that many players who were 6 foot 1 200 pounds who was as athletic than him and keep in mind the olinemen were genuinely around 220 pounds back in those days.

When he became a professional player he was 32 years old and wasn't a full time starter until his 4th season according to pro-football reference.

It is essentially a huge question mark and the only real way to make him worth a big early selection is 2 have him as a 2 way player but it would seem you are quite loaded at the running back position.

[The Jokemaker]

With the 97th pick the Miami Dolphins are proud to add "Iron" Mike Ditka, Tight End

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Derrick Brooks

[WildWesty]

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[AP=MVP]

Roller - Shannon Sharpe

[Ebbs]

K the time slots can't be right.
Dates are off. I'm not sure it's updated via trades

[Quinnsanity]

The Jets take quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

[Wrench]

Paul Warfield, WR to the Eskimos

[homestarunner93]

K the time slots can't be right.
Dates are off. I'm not sure it's updated via trades

The dates are fine. All trades are updated on the draft board. I'm not going to update both spots. You can find your pick on the draft board, then find it on the time slots. Really not that hard.

[unleashthebeast]

With my first pick, give the Colts CB Champ Bailey

[unleashthebeast]

All the NTs are MINE. Curley Culp to Baltimore

[Wrench]

Lem Barney, CB to the Eskimos

[Quinnsanity]

Lester Hayes, CB

[AP=MVP]

Roller - Carl Eller, DE

[rawz]

You know, this might be a little contreversial, but i think im going to keep thorpe out of my back field and make him a starting cornerback. he has the size, speed. And seemed to have excelled at DB has well.... yep, i think thorpe can be a starting cb.

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Buck Buchanan

[The Jokemaker]

With pick 108, the Miami Dolphins select one of their own legends, Jason Taylor, Defensive End.

[BCB mwat15]

Staleys select S Willie Wood

[homestarunner93]

You know, this might be a little contreversial, but i think im going to keep thorpe out of my back field and make him a starting cornerback. he has the size, speed. And seemed to have excelled at DB has well.... yep, i think thorpe can be a starting cb.

Think safety might be a better fit, but I like him better at DB than RB in this

[Wrench]

Being he has a award name for him for best top defensive back in college football I think so as well.

[Greet]

Brian Urlacher to Minnesota

[rawz]

Being he has a award name for him for best top defensive back in college football I think so as well.

Excellent point. Didn't think of that haha.

[TDjacksonville]

Aa selects wr sterling sharpe

[rawz]

cowboys take bruce mathews C/G

[killthesux]

Titans select DE Howie Long

[homestarunner93]

Triangles select CB Mel Renfro.

[unleashthebeast]

**** you all for making me take this value pick

Colts want QB Roger Staubach

[Norm]

You know, this might be a little contreversial, but i think im going to keep thorpe out of my back field and make him a starting cornerback. he has the size, speed. And seemed to have excelled at DB has well.... yep, i think thorpe can be a starting cb.

I'd play him at safety. People will let that slide but use him as someone they can expose at CB. He played "Safety" esentially anyways, by what information I was ever able to find.

[homestarunner93]

Pottsville requests WR Lynn Swann

[homestarunner93]

Steagles skipped for previously missed picks

[rawz]

will come down to who i got and what my options are at corner and safety....

[BDawk4Prez]

Coming for the QB.

JJ Watt

[BDawk4Prez]

Bring on the boos!

[homestarunner93]

Canton has been OTC and looking at the draft thread for like an hour. Skipped. BDawk is up.

[BDawk4Prez]

Leo Nomellini - Eagles

[warfelg]

Maroon's select Harry Carson, OLB Giants.

[Plague]

Canton has been OTC and looking at the draft thread for like an hour. Skipped. BDawk is up.

I am at work. So I have not been looking at the damm thread for a hour. My home computer which is not where I work is logged in right now. I said this early in the thread that would be the case.my picks are doug atkins and db tunnell

[The Long Shot]

I am at work. So I have not been looking at the damm thread for a hour. My home computer which is not where I work is logged in right now. I said this early in the thread that would be the case.my picks are doug atkins and db tunnell

Tunnel is already taken.

[Plague]

Tunnel is already taken.

Thanks.

I will take Gene Upshaw

[unleashthebeast]

Ebbs wants Art Shell

[homestarunner93]

Cortez Kennedy come on down

[killthesux]

Titans select CB/S Charles Woodson

[rawz]

Charles Haley cowboys

[homestarunner93]

Vikings send:

Round 8, Pick 129
Round 18

Titans send:

Round 9, Pick 147
Round 14, Pick 228

[TDjacksonville]

Aa takes Jimmy Johnson cb

[killthesux]

Titans pick OLB Demarcus Ware

[BCB mwat15]

Staleys select DT Arnie Weinmeister

[homestarunner93]

Pottsville requests Brian Dawkins.

[homestarunner93]

Raiders request Larry Allen.

[AP=MVP]

Roller Chris Doleman

[Quinnsanity]

Left Tackle Rosey Brown

[Wrench]

Ernie Stautner, DT

[Ebbs]

Steve Atwater, we need our killer.

[unleashthebeast]

Colts want Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch

[Wrench]

Tony Dorsett, RB

[Quinnsanity]

Safety Kenny Easley

[AP=MVP]

Steam Roller -- Jonathan Ogden

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Willie Davis

[Quinnsanity]

Question, if it's close, we more or less have autonomy when it comes to player decades, right? Like Lee Roy Selmon played from '76-84, so he has eligibility for both the 70's and the 80's, correct? The same is more or less true for Raymond Berry (he played more seasons in the 60's, but has far more accolades in the '50s). Basically, if they were relevant and the years were close enough, we can pick which decades to use our guys, correct?

[Ebbs]

Won't be Nazi's about it, I think it says. If it's close a year or two type thing whatever. Or at least that's what it was in the past.

[unleashthebeast]

If someone played an entire decade though they have to be used in that decade, that has been made pretty clear to me

[Wrench]

---------------

[The Jokemaker]

With pick 142, the Miami Dolphins will select cornerback Aeneas Williams

[BCB mwat15]

Staleys select Center Dwight Stephenson

[The Long Shot]

Vikings will take OG-Randall McDaniel.

[homestarunner93]

Question, if it's close, we more or less have autonomy when it comes to player decades, right? Like Lee Roy Selmon played from '76-84, so he has eligibility for both the 70's and the 80's, correct? The same is more or less true for Raymond Berry (he played more seasons in the 60's, but has far more accolades in the '50s). Basically, if they were relevant and the years were close enough, we can pick which decades to use our guys, correct?

Selmon is eligible for either. Berry is only eligible for 60s.

[homestarunner93]

If someone played an entire decade though they have to be used in that decade, that has been made pretty clear to me

Some people swearing that has to be the case, but you haven't heard it from me. If a guy played 9 years in one decade and 10 years in another, for example, you can use him in either.

[Norm]

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[homestarunner93]

Colts send:
Mean Joe Greene
Ken Houston
Roger Staubach

Eagles send:
Walter Payton
Tony Gonzalez
Round 11 (pick 186)

[Wrench]

Some people swearing that has to be the case, but you haven't heard it from me. If a guy played 9 years in one decade and 10 years in another, for example, you can use him in either.

I told him that but was was asking about a guy who had 7 in one and 10 in the other, or somthing along those lines.

[TDjacksonville]

Lou groza

[WildWesty]

Damn. I'm stuck on mobile without any way to search to see if these guys are taken, but I'll start making my picks now, just let me know if the guys are taken.

1. Walter Jones
2. Mike Webster
3. Antonio Gates
4. Sam Huff

[homestarunner93]

Damn. I'm stuck on mobile without any way to search to see if these guys are taken, but I'll start making my picks now, just let me know if the guys are taken.

1. Walter Jones
2. Mike Webster
3. Antonio Gates
4. Sam Huff

all clear and you are up to date on your picks

[homestarunner93]

Cowboys select Emmitt Thomas

[The Long Shot]

Vikings select WR-Fred Biletnikoff.

[Plague]

.

[The Long Shot]

.

[Norm]

Triangles want Torry Holt

[Ebbs]

Jim Otto? If he's there

[homestarunner93]

Pottsville requests Wilbur "Pete" Henry.

[Plague]

.

[homestarunner93]

Round 11

171. Baltimore Colts - 8:15-8:30
172. Duluth Eskimos - 8:30-9:00
173. New York Jets - 9:00-9:30
174. Providence Steam Roller - 9:30-10:00
175. Los Angeles Raiders - 10:00-10:30
176. Miami Dolphins - 10:30-11:00
177. Decatur Staleys - 11:00-11:30
178. Minnesota Vikings - 11:30-12:00
179. Buffalo All-Americans - 7/31 AM 10:00-10:30
180. Kansas City Cowboys - 10:30-11:00
181. Tennessee Titans - 11:00-11:30
182. Dayton Triangles - 11:30-12:00
183. Baltimore Colts (via Wolverines) - PM 12:00-12:30
184. Pottsville Maroons - 12:30-1:00
185. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 1:00-1:30
186. Baltimore Colts (via Philadelphia Eagles) - 1:30-2:00
187. Canton Bulldogs - 2:00-2:15

Round 12

188. Canton Bulldogs - 2:15-2:30
189. Philadelphia Eagles - 2:30-3:00
190. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 3:00-3:30
191. Miami Dolphins (via Maroons) - 3:30-4:00
192. Detroit Wolverines - 4:00-4:30
193. Dayton Triangles - 4:30-5:00
194. Tennessee Titans - 5:00-5:30
195. Kansas City Cowboys - 5:30-6:00
196. Buffalo All-Americans - 6:00-6:30
197. Minnesota Vikings - 6:30-7:00
198. Decatur Staleys - 7:00-7:30
199. Miami Dolphins - 7:30-8:00
200. Los Angeles Raiders - 8:00-8:30
201. Providence Steam Roller - 8:30-9:00
202. New York Jets - 9:00-9:30
203. Duluth Eskimos - 9:30-10:00
204. Detroit Wolverines (via Colts) - 10:00-10:15

Round 13

205. Detroit Wolverines (via Colts) - 10:15-10:30
206. Duluth Eskimos - 10:30-11:00
207. New York Jets - 11:00-11:30
208. Providence Steam Roller - 11:30-12:00
209. Los Angeles Raiders - 8/01 AM 10:00-10:30
210. Miami Dolphins - 10:30-11:00
211. Decatur Staleys - 11:00-11:30
212. Minnesota Vikings - 11:30-12:00
213. Buffalo All-Americans - PM 12:00-12:30
214. Kansas City Cowboys - 12:30-1:00
215. Tennessee Titans - 1:00-1:30
216. Dayton Triangles - 1:30-2:00
217. Detroit Wolverines - 2:00-2:30
218. Pottsville Maroons - 2:30-3:00
219. Phil-Pitt Steagles - 3:00-3:30
220. Philadelphia Eagles - 3:30-4:00
221. Canton Bulldogs - 4:00-4:15

[Plague]

I tried to send my list to Homestarrunner but it says he has exceeded saved storage capacity. I will try again tomorrow morning because I wont be available at my pick time.

[Plague]

I sent my picks to Norm. I won't be available at the time of my picks so don't skip me. I tried to send my list to Homestarrunner but he has exceeded storage capacity.

[BDawk4Prez]

Steagles is skipped because UTB said so.

Eagles would like to welcome Rob Gronkowski to the squad.

[homestarunner93]

Bulldogs request Nick Buoniconti. Working on figuring out the second pick.

[homestarunner93]

Had a list snafu, so going to set off the time slots. Hopefully we can catch back up. For now, everyone has 30 minutes once they go on the clock. If you won't be around, please send lists so we can keep it moving and catch back up.

[Plague]

Roger wehrli cb

[Plague]

Yes to nick as the other pick

[BDawk4Prez]

Marcus Allen to Philly please.

[WildWesty]

Fred Dean
Chris Hanburger

[WildWesty]

Mentioned it in the draft thread, but I'm out of town till Sunday and have access to deathly slow wifi once/twice a day. Yall could feel free to skip me whenever my picks are up and I'll make the makeup pick when I can

[homestarunner93]

war has been online and hasn't picked, so he's getting Art Monk, WR, from his list.

[Ebbs]

Mel Hein

[homestarunner93]

Andy Robustelli

[killthesux]

titans select QB Troy Aikman

[rawz]

chuck howley, LB cowboys

[warfelg]

war has been online and hasn't picked, so he's getting Art Monk, WR, from his list.

Thanks Homie. Sorry. Like I've said a few times, If I happen to post during the day it's from tapa, as I'm at work. Can I please for the 10th time, (this isn't to you Homie, but in general) be PM'd and VM'd. You can't see if you have a VM without using the full site.

[The Long Shot]

Vikings select HB/WR/DB Frank Gifford.

[BCB mwat15]

I think I'm up.

Staleys select OT Orlando Pace

[The Jokemaker]

With the 165th pick, the Miami Dolphins select Thurman Thomas, running back and only player to lead league in 4 straight seasons in yards from scrimmage.

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Otto Graham

[homestarunner93]

Steam Roller requests Andre Reed, WR

[Quinnsanity]

center Jim Ringo

[Quinnsanity]

Someone make some. Or else.

[killthesux]

Titans select Dr. Doom, Robert Brazile

[unleashthebeast]

C Jim Ringo
OLB Andre Tippett

To Baltimore please

[unleashthebeast]

OL/LB George Connor, since Ringo is gone

[Wrench]

Yale Lary, S

[Ebbs]

Question: Since people flop LT and RT around, LDE / RDE, LOLB and LDE. .. . Whatever even though they may or may not have ever played the position. Can I move guys around? I.e. A CB at safety, a C at LG/RG, a FB at TE if I think it makes me better?

[Andrei00]

Randy Gradishar, LB

[AP=MVP]

Steam Roller - Jack Christiansen

[Wrench]

Pretty sure you can play anyone about any where, just got to sell it.

[StriveGreatness]

LA Raiders will take Franco Harris

[homestarunner93]

Question: Since people flop LT and RT around, LDE / RDE, LOLB and LDE. .. . Whatever even though they may or may not have ever played the position. Can I move guys around? I.e. A CB at safety, a C at LG/RG, a FB at TE if I think it makes me better?

Depends on what you're talking about. Can you play a tackle at either tackle spot? Yes. Can you interchange 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLBs? Yes. Now, if you're asking if you can put a pure TE at FB or a pure WR at TE, the answer is no. Basically I don't care unless it's offensive skill positions, but I won't let someone twist the positional spots like that to gain a blatant advantage like that. I think that's the route you were going. If you have a question, just check with me.

[The Jokemaker]

Miami Dolphins will select with pick 176 Clyde "Bulldog" Turner, OLB, OC

[BCB mwat15]

Staleys select WR Charlie Joiner

[The Long Shot]

Vikings will select TE/DE-Pete Pihos.

[Norm]

Depends on what you're talking about. Can you play a tackle at either tackle spot? Yes. Can you interchange 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLBs? Yes. Now, if you're asking if you can put a pure TE at FB or a pure WR at TE, the answer is no. Basically I don't care unless it's offensive skill positions, but I won't let someone twist the positional spots like that to gain a blatant advantage like that. I think that's the route you were going. If you have a question, just check with me.

Let him do it, then DQ him.

[WildWesty]

Already can tell I'm going to love TLS' team with the Gifford and Pihos picks. Pihos is incredibly underrated having played (and won championships) with probably the greatest Eagle ever (aside from White, maybe) in SVB, but a true stud with versatility to play DE, WR, TE, and you could argue HB too IMO. The guy lead the league in receiving three years in a row playing mostly TE, which I feel like is pretty insane

[TDjacksonville]

Dave wilcox
Richard sherman

[The Jokemaker]

Offensive Power Rankings:
Ok first off, this was made based on clubhouse. If you made a pick but haven't added it to clubhouse then don't come to the lounge or chatzy bashing for your low ranking. Update ya ****. Second, I tried not to hold too much against teams lacking oline or most of the players but obviously the more you have the better it (generally) ranks you. Third, if you don't like it, make ya own damn rankings. And finally, my team is excluded.

1. Steagles - like the dan marino, earl, moss, largent combo. Plus an already great sack evader has two great lineman in front
2. eskimos - great foundation here, elway has his share of fans/haters but he has been surrounded with some great talent. Warfield never put up gawdy numbers but was a phenomenal player for the 70s phins and will be a great deep threat weapon. Hutson is arguably the GOAT at WR while Dorsett will do well not necessarily having to be the bellcow.
3. raiders - good start here. Big fan of otto graham but he needs some weapons to throw too. He does have a great duo in sanders/harris and you have to assume sanders will be the lead guy. Still, I like the versatility Harris offers and with Parker/Allen in front, they can be a run dominant team. Could be one of the top depending on how it fills out
4. Jets - First off, F the Jets. Second, while I'm not huge on the Rodgers pick, this is a talented core. Berry and Irvin are great weapons for Rodgers while Jim Brown will punish defenses all day. Throw in a talented oline and you’ve got the makings of a solid squad here. Of course it could all go to pot depending on the rest of the draft.
5. Steamrollers - Montana is arguably the best so you can't doubt that. Like the balanced start but needs a run game and more weapons for Joe to work with. Sharpe will be their goto guy it looks like and given his abilities I think he will cause a lot of trouble for offenses. I put this team where I did because I like where it is going a bit more due to my assumption of it being a west coast offense where a RB isn't as critical as multiple dependable targets in the pass game. Sharpe is a gamebreaker and the line is formidable with Ogbagosh and Hannah.
6. bulldogs - I like this team but my problem is the dickerosn/smith combo. Are they starting together? Who's the starter? Emmitt was a great master of none but great at several and thrived behind a great offensive line, which this team has none right now. Really like the passing attack. Brady loves his TEs more than Giselle's deflated boobs (she snuck in for plastic surgery recently) and Mackey provides a fantastic wepaon for him. Plus Tim Brown is one of the more underappreciated guys IMO and will be a solid go-to receiver for Cheady.
7. vikings - AP and gifford are a nice combo but have to figure AP will be the main back with gifford spending time equally at WR/RB. Harrison and biletnikoff are a formidable duo, not the best ever but gives whatever QB they choose weapons. Real stars on this team are on the OL. One seen as the greatest of all time and the other one of the best Gs out there who can run to get up the field to block. like the potential depending
8. wolverines - good offensive line foundation, like the rice/faulk combo but needs more to fully assess where it is going. This ranking would be lower if not for the Rice factor.
9. Staleys - The more I look the more I like. Unitas is phenomenal and will have Winslow who can exploit mismatches all day. The offensive line can hold off the tough defenses enough for whatever run game is here to play and protect Unitas enough.
10. Triangles - Looking at the defense, this isn't an offensive team. LT, Favre, and Holt are great but obviously more needs to be done (and I'm sure it will be filled with underappreciated superstar gems). Favre's tendency for turnovers will be a concern and getting more offensive weapons in general will be needed. Holt is great but against these brutal secondaries he'll need help. This team is where it is because I like the core trifecta enough to think it has potential.
11. titans - some may **** on the aikman pick but I don’t hate it as much as others. Aikman worked with great talent around him and he has that with Lofton and Carter, the latter of which known for his phenomenal hands. Still, a lot of pieces missing and it could be solid or total garbage depending on who those picks are
12. Maroons - Solid potential. Like what Young can bring to a team with his versatility and SVB was a fantastic back in his era. Weak spot here is at WR and TE where Young flat out needs more weapons. His mobility makes up for the lack of an oline for now but will need to be addressed.
13. All-Americans - The talent here is great but unsure of the mesh. Peyton needs more weapons. While OJ and Bronko are great, I feel like their combined brutish doesn't fit a Peyton offense very well. Ozzie is nice but Peyton needs weapons to go against the tough defenses in this thing. Going forward though has some really strong potential.
14. Cowboys - There is talent on this team just some of it should have been around later. I love Bo but another weapon could have been added in his place. Sayers is a dynamite gamebreaker and Megatron has been a force. Has potential to not be a cellar offense depending on who is picked up going forward.
15. Eagles - I like Staubach and Allen but the offense needs work. Gronk is still relatively unproven but has proven to be a dominant player in today's NFL. Still, as a core trio, it is one of the weaker units (and taking one look at the defense will show you this team's focus)
16. Colts - This team sucks, no need to look further.

[homestarunner93]

If Favre is turnover prone, then so are:

*Troy Aikman
*Dan Marino
*John Elway
*Roger Staubach
*Johnny Unitas
*Otto Graham
*Sammy Baugh

..and several other HoF/future HoF QBs that will be drafted in this. All of these guys had a INT% over 3%. Favre's was 3.3%. Only Aikman, Marino, and Elway were marginally better than Favre. The rest were worse by .4% or more.

Yes, Brett Favre threw a lot of interceptions. He also has like 900 more attempts than Peyton, and about 1800 more attempts than the next guy (Marino). He's not any more turnover-prone than like half of the QBs in this game. It's a stupid narrative.

[rawz]

Drew Pearson WR

[warfelg]

If Favre is turnover prone, then so are:

*Troy Aikman
*Dan Marino
*John Elway
*Roger Staubach
*Johnny Unitas
*Otto Graham
*Sammy Baugh

..and several other HoF/future HoF QBs that will be drafted in this. All of these guys had a INT% over 3%. Favre's was 3.3%. Only Aikman, Marino, and Elway were marginally better than Favre. The rest were worse by .4% or more.

Yes, Brett Favre threw a lot of interceptions. He also has like 900 more attempts than Peyton, and about 1800 more attempts than the next guy (Marino). He's not any more turnover-prone than like half of the QBs in this game. It's a stupid narrative.

I compare it to Jamie Moyer's comment when he gave up his 500th HR:
"You don't get that many chances to give up a bad play by being bad."

Basically Favre had a chance at that many INTs because he was good enough to be around that long.

[The Jokemaker]

I wasn't referring to just interceptions but to favre's gunslinger mentality which led to forcing a throw when it wasn't necessary and such. His reputation is that of a wildcard when he gambles. Sometimes paid off huge, other times didnt. I'm not saying favre is a bad QB or one of the worst in the game because that's ludicrous.

[homestarunner93]

Titans request TE Dave Casper

[homestarunner93]

Triangles select Jack Butler, S

[BDawk4Prez]

15/16 with easily the best D in the redraft. Lulz.

And if not best, top 2.

[Wrench]

If you didn't read, his power rankings where about the O only not the defence.

[warfelg]

If you didn't read, his power rankings where about the O only not the defence.

I'm not a fan of that. Football is a game on both sides. Rating a team on half of it is silly. Do you rank teams by the offense only?

I dunno. I think offense only PR's dont grasp what scheme someone is thinking or how good the overall team is.

[Plague]

I won't be available at my time of the draft so I sent my list to Homestarrunner

[unleashthebeast]

Deron Cherry, S, to the Colts

[Andrei00]

I'm not a fan of that. Football is a game on both sides. Rating a team on half of it is silly. Do you rank teams by the offense only?

I dunno. I think offense only PR's dont grasp what scheme someone is thinking or how good the overall team is.

He's not ranking them overall based on offensive side only, he's ranking each team's offense, exclusively. I don't really get it why that can be considered a bad thing.

[warfelg]

Maroons pick Alex Wojciechowicz C/LB

[unleashthebeast]

Colts want OT Ron Mix

[unleashthebeast]

Steagles were skipped by the way, per westy's request

[Ebbs]

I have the 8th best offense? The best line so far hands down, with the GOAT, and best dual threat RB ever?

I appreciate the PR's and it's natural, especially in this game to think your team is the greatest. It's not a finished product but lol I feel like my O is off to a dope start.

[homestarunner93]

Bulldogs request Andre Johnson and Mike Webster. Someone please let the next person know they're otc

[AP=MVP]

Webster's been gone a while

[Plague]

Canton will then take lemsr parrish if webster os gone

[BDawk4Prez]

Len Ford, come to philly please.

[homestarunner93]

I wasn't referring to just interceptions but to favre's gunslinger mentality which led to forcing a throw when it wasn't necessary and such. His reputation is that of a wildcard when he gambles. Sometimes paid off huge, other times didnt. I'm not saying favre is a bad QB or one of the worst in the game because that's ludicrous.

But if he threw interceptions at about the same rate as the top guys on that list, and significantly less than some guys like Baugh/Graham/Unitas, then how is he more "turnover-prone?" And if those guys aren't "gunslingers," then they just have the turnover-proneness with a lesser likelihood for big plays, right? If he's "forcing balls" and the end-result is a turnover about as much or less than these other guys, then it's a net win by the numbers.

It's not just you. It's a poor narrative surrounding Favre's career that just isn't true. He threw the most INTs of anyone ever because he had the most pass attempts of anyone ever. Yeah, he took chances that someone like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or Joe Montana might not take, but he obviously came out on top a lot more than not. And he's more turnover-prone than those precision master guys, but not most of the QBs in this. And his ability to generate big plays due to his ability outside of the pocket + his creativity + his cannon arm is better than maybe any QB in this game.

[The Jokemaker]

He's not ranking them overall based on offensive side only, he's ranking each team's offense, exclusively. I don't really get it why that can be considered a bad thing.

This is correct. Offense only, only acknowledged defense on a few but it made no impact.

I think its clear why few do power rankings, few are satisfied and most upset by position. UST a bunch of people mad about their "disrespect".

[Ebbs]

Lol, I'm not mad. But it's a game. Half the fun is debating stuff.

I love that you did PR's. But the aim of the game is to convince people your team is the best lol.

[The Jokemaker]

With the 191st pick, the Miami Dolphins select one of their own, fullback Larry Csonka.

[homestarunner93]

Yeah I'm not "upset" over the PRs. Actually a good reason for me to get on my soapbox and dispel the biggest misconception about Favre.

[The Jokemaker]

Lol, I'm not mad. But it's a game. Half the fun is debating stuff.

I love that you did PR's. But the aim of the game is to convince people your team is the best lol.

Fair point!