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leprechaun5
07-01-2015, 07:33 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Iman Shumpert has agreed to a deal with Cleveland, league source tells Yahoo

4yr/40M.

lamzoka
07-01-2015, 07:36 PM
That payroll gon be like $200M next season

NYSpirit1
07-01-2015, 07:36 PM
The Cavs payroll now stands at $107 million, an NBA record and they still have 8 roster spots to fill.

LeBron ($22 mil), Irving ($22 mil), Love ($20 mil), Thompson ($16 mil), Varejao ($10 mil), Shumpert ($10 mil), Mozgov ($5 mil).

By the time they fill their roster, they'll have a $115 million dollar payroll and probably pay well over $100 million in luxury tax for a $215 million dollar payroll.

WITZ
07-01-2015, 07:36 PM
Nice Him & Mozgod played a big part of the defense stepping up big time in the 2nd half of the season. Giving him a pass on his finals performance due to playing with 1 shoulder.

Cal827
07-01-2015, 07:38 PM
The Cavs payroll now stands at $107 million, an NBA record and they still have 8 roster spots to fill.

LeBron ($22 mil), Irving ($22 mil), Love ($20 mil), Thompson ($16 mil), Varejao ($10 mil), Shumpert ($10 mil), Mozgov ($5 mil).

By the time they fill their roster, they'll have a $115 million dollar payroll and probably pay well over $100 million in luxury tax for a $215 million dollar payroll.

Wait... Lebron hasn't resigned yet :laugh2:

NYSpirit1
07-01-2015, 07:39 PM
The Cavs are completely locked into this roster, with a monster front court and literally 0 depth from the wing position or PG off the bench. Thing is, they can't sign anyone else now, except for the minimum. And for the next four years too. Even when the cap is $109 mil, they'll still be way over and only have the mini mid level.

LeBron better hope they win that chip.

NYSpirit1
07-01-2015, 07:39 PM
Wait... Lebron hasn't resigned yet :laugh2:

So add another $5 mil to that.

goingfor28
07-01-2015, 07:40 PM
Wait... Lebron hasn't resigned yet :laugh2:
He obviously will though. He isn't going anywhere.

Vinylman
07-01-2015, 07:43 PM
The Cavs are completely locked into this roster, with a monster front court and literally 0 depth from the wing position or PG off the bench. Thing is, they can't sign anyone else now, except for the minimum. And for the next four years too. Even when the cap is $109 mil, they'll still be way over and only have the mini mid level.

LeBron better hope they win that chip.

They can still trade Haywoods deal for a wing and a TPE... they have alot more levers they can pull.

NYSpirit1
07-01-2015, 07:44 PM
They can still trade Haywoods deal for a wing and a TPE... they have alot more levers they can pull.

Someone's just gonna give up a good player for nothing?

Vinylman
07-01-2015, 07:45 PM
Someone's just gonna give up a good player for nothing?

yes... they will add picks... did you see what the ******* idiot knicks took for Shump and JR...

case closed

bucketss
07-01-2015, 07:46 PM
lmao thats one expensive *** team,

Rivera
07-01-2015, 07:47 PM
With the contracts handing out this is a great deal. It's the most I would pay him honestly.

Good deal for the cavs

WITZ
07-01-2015, 07:47 PM
yes... they will add picks... did you see what the ******* idiot knicks took for Shump and JR...

case closed

Lmao awesome example :laugh:

IndyRealist
07-01-2015, 07:57 PM
They can still trade Haywoods deal for a wing and a TPE... they have alot more levers they can pull.

That just adds on more salary. They'd be better off adding cheap vets and keeping their picks to add depth in the next few years, I'd think.

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2015, 07:59 PM
Lol


commissioner,

it would be a travesty to allow the lakers to acquire chris paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn't appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for dwight howard. (they would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for howard.) when the lakers got pau gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in marc gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don't see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that i do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the washington generals?

Please advise...

Dan g.

bleedprple&gold
07-01-2015, 07:59 PM
Lebron likes you = get paid double what you're worth

Vinylman
07-01-2015, 08:00 PM
That just adds on more salary. They'd be better off adding cheap vets and keeping their picks to add depth in the next few years, I'd think.

nah... its a mix and match game at this point... add as many assets as you can and sort it out later

and like i said they could just trade him and a first or second to anyone and create a massive TPE

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2015, 08:01 PM
The Cavs payroll now stands at $107 million, an NBA record and they still have 8 roster spots to fill.

LeBron ($22 mil), Irving ($22 mil), Love ($20 mil), Thompson ($16 mil), Varejao ($10 mil), Shumpert ($10 mil), Mozgov ($5 mil).

By the time they fill their roster, they'll have a $115 million dollar payroll and probably pay well over $100 million in luxury tax for a $215 million dollar payroll.


The 'King' needs his team $100 mil over every other team to field a winner. The CBA is a joke.

Vinylman
07-01-2015, 08:02 PM
The 'King' needs his team $100 mil over every other team to field a winner. The CBA is a joke.

yep... it will all change in two years... the other owners won't put up with it

nysportsfan23
07-01-2015, 08:04 PM
Cavs will be over the cap for the next 4 years wow.

NYSpirit1
07-01-2015, 08:04 PM
This entire thing is a mockery and will inevitably lead to another lockout. After the 2010 season, you had small market owners *****ing that the glamour cities were getting all the stars and wanted to implement all these harsh luxury tax numbers and rules so they can't sign guys.

Then precisely the guy leading the charge, does what he 'despised' all those years, because he can now. Hypocrite at it's finest. This league should remove the salary cap, then we'll really see who is boss. Knicks and Lakers will be handing out $50 mil per year deals while teams like the Cavs couldn't compete.

NYSpirit1
07-01-2015, 08:06 PM
I can't even believe the Cavs are allowed to do something like this, to have such an embarrassment of riches, to have all their luck fall this way, that this can go $50 million over the cap number in a given year and still be able to keep all of these guys.

Isn't this what was being complained about for years? It's the reason the Knicks never ended up with CP3 in 2011-2012, because of all the harsh rule changes. Guys like Dan Gilbert didn't want the big market teams having these kind of payrolls, but yet he gets the opportunity to do so and runs with it.

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2015, 08:10 PM
Hypocrite = Dan Gilbert

Jarvo
07-01-2015, 08:27 PM
This team BETTER win a championship lol

BKLYNpigeon
07-01-2015, 08:28 PM
Looks crazy now, but in 2 years they will be right within the salary cap when it goes up to 108+ mil.

LA_Raiders
07-01-2015, 08:32 PM
Lol, commish should stop this insanity.

Vinylman
07-01-2015, 08:35 PM
Looks crazy now, but in 2 years they will be right within the salary cap when it goes up to 108+ mil.

no they won't ... in two years bron salary will be $10 million more per year... and all those deals negotiated today will go up a minimum of 6-7 million combined

bucketss
07-01-2015, 08:42 PM
This entire thing is a mockery and will inevitably lead to another lockout. After the 2010 season, you had small market owners *****ing that the glamour cities were getting all the stars and wanted to implement all these harsh luxury tax numbers and rules so they can't sign guys.

Then precisely the guy leading the charge, does what he 'despised' all those years, because he can now. Hypocrite at it's finest. This league should remove the salary cap, then we'll really see who is boss. Knicks and Lakers will be handing out $50 mil per year deals while teams like the Cavs couldn't compete.

except he actually traded a future all star/superstar and another #1 pick for love, signed lebron fair and sqaure. he drafted irving.its nothing like what happened with the lakers trying to get the best pg in the league and saving money in very lopsided trades.

True Sports Fan
07-01-2015, 08:47 PM
Someone's just gonna give up a good player for nothing?

He's unguarenteed. Someone will take the extra cap room

KnicksorBust
07-02-2015, 12:20 AM
Terrible deal. If t he y want to pay 100 mil in tax good for them but no way you are getting 40 mil of value from Shump. Should have coaxed RayRay out of retirement.

kobe4thewinbang
07-02-2015, 12:28 AM
Good. Now he can work on his jumpshot and consistency.

More-Than-Most
07-02-2015, 12:36 AM
i thought he was going to the lakers? God damn that first is looking good for philly next year

More-Than-Most
07-02-2015, 12:39 AM
all these james haters are mad because they thought they were losing love and shump and so on lol

colinskik
07-02-2015, 12:42 AM
Nice Him & Mozgod played a big part of the defense stepping up big time in the 2nd half of the season. Giving him a pass on his finals performance due to playing with 1 shoulder.

not wise.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-02-2015, 12:42 AM
Isiah Thomas doing work :laugh:

colinskik
07-02-2015, 12:47 AM
This entire thing is a mockery and will inevitably lead to another lockout. After the 2010 season, you had small market owners *****ing that the glamour cities were getting all the stars and wanted to implement all these harsh luxury tax numbers and rules so they can't sign guys.

Then precisely the guy leading the charge, does what he 'despised' all those years, because he can now. Hypocrite at it's finest. This league should remove the salary cap, then we'll really see who is boss. Knicks and Lakers will be handing out $50 mil per year deals while teams like the Cavs couldn't compete.


I can't even believe the Cavs are allowed to do something like this, to have such an embarrassment of riches, to have all their luck fall this way, that this can go $50 million over the cap number in a given year and still be able to keep all of these guys.

Isn't this what was being complained about for years? It's the reason the Knicks never ended up with CP3 in 2011-2012, because of all the harsh rule changes. Guys like Dan Gilbert didn't want the big market teams having these kind of payrolls, but yet he gets the opportunity to do so and runs with it.

Everybody,

Read these posts.

GoferKing_
07-02-2015, 06:15 AM
I won't be surprised if the whole NBA explodes in a couple of years. Medicore players getting top dollar, when the cap goes up those same medicore players will be taking all-star contracts. This league is a joke.

MonroeFAN
07-02-2015, 07:01 AM
After watching Shumpert, JR & Delly, I'm not convinced they are NBA players even.

I'm not going to suggest it was an overpay, because there is no such thing anymore in the NBA.

Scoots
07-02-2015, 12:00 PM
The next CBA may well add losing draft picks to being over the tax limit just like now teams lose the MLE if they are over the tax. It's all to make it harder to build a team when you are over the tax.