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ILLUSIONIST^248
07-01-2015, 04:30 PM
How will the contracts given out today and in the near future effect the new cba/teams cap space moving forward. Which contracts are good and which ones will be trouble?

5ass
07-01-2015, 04:33 PM
it won't affect things much at all. In fact its best to lock up these guys today before the salary cap jumps.

ILLUSIONIST^248
07-01-2015, 04:35 PM
it won't affect things much at all. In fact its best to lock up these guys today before the salary cap jumps.

It's not like any team is getting a good deal. Almost all contracts given out are overpaid as if the cap has already jumped

ManRam
07-01-2015, 04:38 PM
I think if you think every contract offered is an "overpay" than the reality is that none of them really are. The market is painfully obvious at this point....and it's unlike anything we've been used to.

What it mostly means is that the owners will have an even weaker case than they did last CBA...a CBA that they eventually were the ones to budge. The league is healthy. Teams have money and are willing to spend. Contracts will only continue to sky.

All you have to do is look at this...

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We gotta change how we think of things. We're on the verge of by far the greatest change business-wise that we've probably ever seen in the NBA.


To answer your question: I don't think any of these contracts will hurt any of their teams. Even the worst one of the day: TT getting $20M per. The Cavs are going to be operating above the cap even after it spikes, and they're aware of that. Since that's the case, all that matters is how much the owner is willing to spend...because it won't change how they can attack FA. In terms of signing guys, it won't impact them really at all.

Singler got 5 years somehow...but $5M for 4/5ths of the length of that contract will be less than 5% of the cap. You can absolutely pay a 8th/9th man that. As long as he stays alive, it's not gonna hurt the Thunder.


Now's the time for undesirable/small markets to overpay for guys. There will never be a better time.

RLundi
07-01-2015, 04:53 PM
How will the contracts given out today and in the near future effect the new cba/teams cap space moving forward. Which contracts are good and which ones will be trouble?

*affect

THE MTL
07-01-2015, 05:03 PM
I feel like these contracts are based off of the new cba already

Wade n Fade
07-01-2015, 05:06 PM
FA is often overspending to get or keep talent. At the end of the day, each player is overpaid relative to their job description, but that's the nature of the business and society. But back to the main post. I think Aldridge determines the West champs because San Antonio getting him and the Dubs losing Green puts the Spurs back in the saddle for one last hoorah. Wade shapes the east because if he stays in Miami, it's only top heavy. If he leaves to say LA, it means that the middle to bottom of the east is a crap shoot. Carroll to Toronto shows role players will get paid. If I were Chicago or Washington, it's do or die here because their money is tied into many guys and they need to improve to keep up. Washington has a good bargain in PP. As much as I hate him, he's a clutch player and provides rock steady numbers and chemistry.

kobe4thewinbang
07-02-2015, 12:38 AM
I'm a bit shocked about guys like Jerebko, Aminu and Amir are getting big deals (Jerebko's 20million). Are they worth that?

LA_Raiders
07-02-2015, 12:52 AM
This is ridiculous so far. Let's see where all these overpaying will take them...

Scoots
07-02-2015, 02:25 AM
It's not overpaying. The fact is that the players as a group are wildly underpaid. The Players represent the vast majority of the product the NBA is selling, the NBA made an estimated $5 billion this year ... there are 450 players in the NBA, the CBA says the players get approximately 50% of the revenue ... ($5B / 450) * 50% = $5.6M as the average salary for NBA players ... the actual average for last year is $4.9M. On average NBA players are underpaid 14% based on that. Those numbers are for last year. Next year the league revenue is estimated to be $6.7B which means the average NBA player should be making $7.4M a year or an increase over last year of $2.5M PER PLAYER MORE, or an increase of 50%. So since there are 15 players on the team and the bottom 5 players average around $1.5M last year and the middle 5 average around $6M and the top 5 average around $11M ... those numbers next year are going to jump but the jump is going to be mostly in the middle and top of the rosters, so the middle 5 guys are going to average $10M and the top 5 $15M. That is the new normal.

If you think the players don't "deserve" 50% of the revenue, keep in mind that the largest portion of the money the players don't get is going to the team owner, and other than write checks what did he do to entertain you? If anyone is "overpayed" it's the owners.

Now if you have a problem with NBA revenue ... well that's on you. You are a fanatical fan of the NBA and are supporting the machine by paying for TV and merchandise. Just stop watching and they will make less money.

Munkeysuit
07-02-2015, 02:38 AM
It's not overpaying. The fact is that the players as a group are wildly underpaid. The Players represent the vast majority of the product the NBA is selling, the NBA made an estimated $5 billion this year ... there are 450 players in the NBA, the CBA says the players get approximately 50% of the revenue ... ($5B / 450) * 50% = $5.6M as the average salary for NBA players ... the actual average for last year is $4.9M. On average NBA players are underpaid 14% based on that. Those numbers are for last year. Next year the league revenue is estimated to be $6.7B which means the average NBA player should be making $7.4M a year or an increase over last year of $2.5M PER PLAYER MORE, or an increase of 50%. So since there are 15 players on the team and the bottom 5 players average around $1.5M last year and the middle 5 average around $6M and the top 5 average around $11M ... those numbers next year are going to jump but the jump is going to be mostly in the middle and top of the rosters, so the middle 5 guys are going to average $10M and the top 5 $15M. That is the new normal.

If you think the players don't "deserve" 50% of the revenue, keep in mind that the largest portion of the money the players don't get is going to the team owner, and other than write checks what did he do to entertain you? If anyone is "overpayed" it's the owners.

Now if you have a problem with NBA revenue ... well that's on you. You are a fanatical fan of the NBA and are supporting the machine by paying for TV and merchandise. Just stop watching and they will make less money.

Well said! totally agree.

BKLYNpigeon
07-02-2015, 02:52 AM
money!