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JordansBulls
06-18-2015, 06:47 PM
Stole this on another site.

http://i.imgur.com/knJuzdk.jpg


Matchups like NCAA Tourney but team with higher seed has HCA. The seedings were based off of win percentage.

Who wins?

InRoseWeTrust
06-18-2015, 07:12 PM
I don't know the roster breakdowns well enough, but I'd have to think one of the Kobe/Shaq Laker teams. Just don't know which one.

kdspurman
06-18-2015, 07:17 PM
All circumstances the same, I think 2014 Spurs. 01 Lakers though.. Feels like they should be a finals match up right there lol

ManningToTyree
06-18-2015, 07:18 PM
I wound up with the 2000 lakers winning but I don't agree with the seeding and that could affect the outcome.

JPS
06-18-2015, 07:23 PM
00 Lakers win. 06 heat beat the 15 warriors in first round. Seeding is bad, but no matter how you seed it 00 Lakers are winning.

Dade County
06-18-2015, 07:28 PM
HEAT!

If there is no entertainment reasons added into it (meaning prolonging series). HEAT over Lakers. Shaq fouls out in game 6.

lamzoka
06-18-2015, 07:29 PM
Yea im going with 2000 Lakers too. Warriors would've probably beat '06 Heat, but they wouldn't survive either of the Spurs team in the second round

Hawkeye15
06-18-2015, 07:38 PM
bummer, the 2 I have meet in round 2 (14' Spurs and 01' Lakers).

So whichever team wins that game runs it to me.

Ebbs
06-18-2015, 07:41 PM
Prime JB would've made a pill.

I think probably 01 Lakers.

PowerHouse
06-18-2015, 07:47 PM
2001 Lakers would not be denied.

Hawkeye15
06-18-2015, 07:50 PM
2001 Lakers would not be denied.

they need to get through the 14' Spurs in round 2 first.....

That team (Spurs) last year was like watching what James Naesmith was envisioning when he invented the sport. They were a perfect machine.

xnick5757
06-18-2015, 07:51 PM
08 Celtics were pretty good


back when Rondo and Perkins were legit

Tony_Starks
06-18-2015, 07:57 PM
'01 Lakers beats '10 Lakers in the Finals. '15 Warriors and '07 Spurs would've been a helluva matchup tho in the second round....

LA_Raiders
06-18-2015, 08:01 PM
01 Lakers

rJeezy
06-18-2015, 08:10 PM
Just check Kobe and Shaq's numbers in 2001. Not to mention the Lakers have been Popovich's Achilles heel since God knows when.

Raps08-09 Champ
06-18-2015, 08:13 PM
The seeds are all ****ing wrong.

MTar786
06-18-2015, 08:15 PM
01 lakers and its not even close imo.

1st place) 01 lakers
2nd place) 14 spurs
3rd place) 12 heat ,09 lakers or 2000 lakers (cant decide)

Raps08-09 Champ
06-18-2015, 08:15 PM
It's gotta be a prime Shaq team.

PowerHouse
06-18-2015, 08:19 PM
they need to get through the 14' Spurs in round 2 first.....

That team (Spurs) last year was like watching what James Naesmith was envisioning when he invented the sport. They were a perfect machine.

I remember watching the 2001 Lakers slaughter everyone they faced in the playoffs like it was yesterday and the same thing you just said about the '14 Spurs could also be said about the '01 Lakers. Not taking anything away from that Spurs team but remember they did struggle a lot with the Mavs in the 1st round.

MTar786
06-18-2015, 08:24 PM
lol looking at the table, the 01 lakers have to go through the toughest competition. just like they did in 01 and still swept everyone pretty much. kings and spurs could have won it all if they didnt have to face the lakers

SteveNash
06-18-2015, 08:40 PM
06 Heat
05 Spurs
08 Celtics
09 Lakers
04 Pistons
02 Lakers
01 Lakers
12 Heat

05 Spurs
08 Celtics
04 Pistons
01 Lakers

08 Celtics
01 Lakers

01 Lakers

kdspurman
06-18-2015, 09:41 PM
I remember watching the 2001 Lakers slaughter everyone they faced in the playoffs like it was yesterday and the same thing you just said about the '14 Spurs could also be said about the '01 Lakers. Not taking anything away from that Spurs team but remember they did struggle a lot with the Mavs in the 1st round.

I was under the assumption it was the finals teams, not necessarily the way they played in previous series.

But in terms of what Hawk said, I think the Lakers were absolutely a machine, but not in the sense that he meant it. They played completely different

SportsFanatic10
06-18-2015, 09:52 PM
So this is single game elimination? If that's the case it's pretty hard to predict since anything can happen in one game.

Shlumpledink
06-18-2015, 10:10 PM
2001 Lakers. Too dominant of a Shaq, too dominant of a Kobe. Good luck everybody else.

KMackSackAttack
06-18-2015, 10:27 PM
01' lakers

Steelersfan84
06-18-2015, 10:50 PM
2001 Lakers

Jarvo
06-19-2015, 02:21 AM
2014 Spurs or 01 Lakers.

Sadds The Gr8
06-19-2015, 03:16 AM
The seeds are all ****ing wrong.
This.

01 Lakers win tho

naps
06-19-2015, 05:24 AM
No team in NBA history could beat the 2014 Spurs final's team. They displayed the way you should play this game and make the opposition absolutely helpless and do nothing but watch how beautiful and cruel this game could be. You could assemble and field the best defensive team of all time against them, still you would get punked.

Jenceman
06-19-2015, 07:15 AM
01 Lakers dominated the playoffs like never seen before. Same would happen here.

HoopsDrive
06-19-2015, 07:38 AM
The winner is whichever team has the better prime Shaq in it.

Minimal
06-19-2015, 07:43 AM
One of those Shaq Laker teams.

joedaheights
06-19-2015, 07:53 AM
All circumstances the same, I think 2014 Spurs. 01 Lakers though.. Feels like they should be a finals match up right there lol

The 2014 spurs? Against Shaq?? You can't be serious. Duncan's corpse isn't going to slow down oneal and neither are any other two spurs. I hate the lakers and hated them then cause of My first jordan doll Bryant and his light bulb looking halfro, but they'd murder the spurs.

As would the 03 spurs. Duncan, Parker and ginobili all in their athletic prime?? Ginobili dunked all over Shaq twice and I mean threw it down over contact. And that team had Bruce Bowen and Stephen Jackson when he actually was pre crazy Stephen Jackson and playing solid ball.

03 spurs v. 02 lakers winner smashes the rest of the way with the exception of having to face the 01 lakers. It was 1998 the last time a Anyone could guard a prime oneal. No one in today's league could.

PhillyFaninLA
06-19-2015, 07:57 AM
All circumstances the same, I think 2014 Spurs. 01 Lakers though.. Feels like they should be a finals match up right there lol

This is what my thoughts are. I think the 01 Lakers probably win it.

IBleedPurple
06-19-2015, 08:17 AM
No team in NBA history could beat the 2014 Spurs final's team. They displayed the way you should play this game and make the opposition absolutely helpless and do nothing but watch how beautiful and cruel this game could be. You could assemble and field the best defensive team of all time against them, still you would get punked.:laugh2:

MonroeFAN
06-19-2015, 10:06 AM
^you can laugh all you want, shaq was dominant in 03/04 as well, and the lakers made mince meat out of their western competition.


Then they got their *** kicked in the finals.

I think the Spurs smoke them, old Duncan does the same thing 6'7" Ben Wallace did.

xnick5757
06-19-2015, 10:19 AM
No team in NBA history could beat the 2014 Spurs final's team. They displayed the way you should play this game and make the opposition absolutely helpless and do nothing but watch how beautiful and cruel this game could be. You could assemble and field the best defensive team of all time against them, still you would get punked.

i feel like the 08 Celtics would match up extremely well against the 2014 Spurs

joedaheights
06-19-2015, 11:16 AM
i feel like the 08 Celtics would match up extremely well against the 2014 Spurs

Here are teams who would kill the 2014 spurs... And this is without digging deep...

1967 Sixers
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1982 Lakers
1983 Sixers
1984 Celtics
1985 Lakers
1986 Celtics
1987 Lakers
1989 Pistons
1991 Bulls
1992 Bulls
1995 Rockets
1996 Bulls
2001 Lakers
2002 Lakers
2003 Spurs

Those are the teams who murder the spurs

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-19-2015, 11:41 AM
00 Lakers win. 06 heat beat the 15 warriors in first round. Seeding is bad, but no matter how you seed it 00 Lakers are winning.

Warriors would beat the heat,

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-19-2015, 11:44 AM
bummer, the 2 I have meet in round 2 (14' Spurs and 01' Lakers).

So whichever team wins that game runs it to me.

The 01 lakers would kill the 14 Spurs. They need Duncan in his prime

Jayb587
06-19-2015, 11:48 AM
could 2014 kawhi contain 2001 kobe???? IDK, doubt it. also 2001 shaq is destroying 2014 Duncan. so im taking 2001 Lakers, to beat everyone, including the 90's bulls lol.

Hawkeye15
06-19-2015, 11:52 AM
I remember watching the 2001 Lakers slaughter everyone they faced in the playoffs like it was yesterday and the same thing you just said about the '14 Spurs could also be said about the '01 Lakers. Not taking anything away from that Spurs team but remember they did struggle a lot with the Mavs in the 1st round.

read my first post haha. Like I said, these 2 teams meet in round 2 (sad...), so whatever teams comes out of that game is running the table to me.

The Spurs "struggled" for 2.5 games, then toyed with them, and every team going forward, the rest of the playoffs. And if we are talking about FINALS teams only, the 2014 Spurs are the best finals team I have seen in that group listed. But I think it would be a sweet series, and either team can win it. One thing I do see favoring the Lakers, is they were constantly a pain in the *** to the Spurs in the Shaq era, but the 2015 Spurs are a different team than back then, so who knows.

one of those (01' Lakers or 14' Spurs) is winning it for me.

Jayb587
06-19-2015, 11:56 AM
2001 lakers

JasonJohnHorn
06-19-2015, 05:34 PM
I'd really like the 2014 Spurs and the 08 Celtics. The 10 Lakers and the 00 Lakers are pretty tight as well. I'd be rooting for the 04 Pistons.

I think this Warriors team, the LBJ Heat teams, and the Mavs would all struggle.

kobe4thewinbang
06-19-2015, 08:00 PM
Could somebody provide the rosters, with at least the players that weren't benchwarmers? I think the 4-1 Spurs would win, but Kobe and Shaq were pretty tough. I also think the Pistons would be a dark horse. They shut down the Lakers and nearly repeated against the Spurs w/Horry. And we should construct a better seeding order. Just have the regular NBA seeding twice over, so 1vs16, 2vs15, 8vs9/7vs8 in the first round.

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-20-2015, 02:48 AM
No team in NBA history could beat the 2014 Spurs final's team. They displayed the way you should play this game and make the opposition absolutely helpless and do nothing but watch how beautiful and cruel this game could be. You could assemble and field the best defensive team of all time against them, still you would get punked.:laugh2:

Double :laugh2:

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-20-2015, 02:51 AM
I remember watching the 2001 Lakers slaughter everyone they faced in the playoffs like it was yesterday and the same thing you just said about the '14 Spurs could also be said about the '01 Lakers. Not taking anything away from that Spurs team but remember they did struggle a lot with the Mavs in the 1st round.

read my first post haha. Like I said, these 2 teams meet in round 2 (sad...), so whatever teams comes out of that game is running the table to me.

The Spurs "struggled" for 2.5 games, then toyed with them, and every team going forward, the rest of the playoffs. And if we are talking about FINALS teams only, the 2014 Spurs are the best finals team I have seen in that group listed. But I think it would be a sweet series, and either team can win it. One thing I do see favoring the Lakers, is they were constantly a pain in the *** to the Spurs in the Shaq era, but the 2015 Spurs are a different team than back then, so who knows.

one of those (01' Lakers or 14' Spurs) is winning it for me.

Lakers win 4-1 without a doubt.

hidalgo
06-20-2015, 07:09 AM
2014 Spurs, best team since MJ's dynasty Bulls

i do think the dynasty Bulls would beat them, & the 86 Celtics. but that 2014 Spurs, (that ball movement, wow) they are the best since MJ's final season in Chicago. they were very impressive indeed

MTar786
06-20-2015, 07:19 AM
i think 2001 lakers would beat any team ever assembled

KnicksorBust
06-20-2015, 07:40 AM
15 Warriors

YAALREADYKNO
06-20-2015, 07:57 AM
01 Lakers would probably take it. There playoff run was dominant. 15-1 in those playoffs

Alan Shore
06-20-2015, 08:21 AM
01 Lakers or 14 Spurs, but I'd like to add 2004 Pistons to the mix. They could shut anyone down.

KnicksorBust
06-20-2015, 09:45 PM
Who on the 01 Lakers could even try and guard Curry? Warriors are perfect to take that team out. Iggy making Kobe work.

DaBear
06-20-2015, 10:09 PM
No team in NBA history could beat the 2014 Spurs final's team. They displayed the way you should play this game and make the opposition absolutely helpless and do nothing but watch how beautiful and cruel this game could be. You could assemble and field the best defensive team of all time against them, still you would get punked.

:laugh2: OK buddy

DaBear
06-20-2015, 10:09 PM
01 Lakers

IversonIsKrazy
06-21-2015, 01:20 AM
THe 2 best teams are 14 spurs and 01 lakers. What's funny is 2014 spurs is the best spurs team, but 2007 spurs prlly make it the farthest b/c of the bracket set-up. 01 lakers win it all tho.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 01:40 AM
Who on the 01 Lakers could even try and guard Curry? Warriors are perfect to take that team out. Iggy making Kobe work.

Who's guarding Shaq?

numba1CHANGsta
06-21-2015, 02:25 AM
01 Lakers by far the best team since the Jordan Bulls era

Raidaz4Life
06-21-2015, 08:37 AM
01 Lakers and didn't even really need to think about it

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 08:37 AM
Who on the 01 Lakers could even try and guard Curry? Warriors are perfect to take that team out. Iggy making Kobe work.

Who's guarding Shaq?

Bogut obviously. I would like to know how the Lakers plan on guarding Steph Curry and the Warriors small ball lineup.

LA4life24/8
06-21-2015, 09:44 AM
01 Lakers or 14 Spurs, but I'd like to add 2004 Pistons to the mix. They could shut anyone down.

I'm with you here... surprised no one is mentioning that 04 pistons team.... they were so solid on defense

But really for me its gotta be 01 Lakers 14 spurs and then I'll take 04 pistons

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 11:25 AM
Lol Small ball lineup with a Prime Shaq.....

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 11:33 AM
Lol Small ball lineup with a Prime Shaq.....

No real response huh? Figured. Lmao.

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 11:35 AM
Curry would abuse dfish to epic proportions.

Federal Reserve
06-21-2015, 12:44 PM
Lakers needed the refs to beat the Kings. The true champions win without needing calls.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 01:35 PM
No real response huh? Figured. Lmao.

You really want me to respond? I'm not even sure if you're serious.... Did you see Prime Shaq? He was absolutely unstoppable. Bogut would foul out by half time, they would need constant double teams... Kobe would go off, and no one is getting to the rim, Warriors would need to be extra hot from the outside to even have a chance against this all time dominant team.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 01:37 PM
Lakers needed the refs to beat the Kings. The true champions win without needing calls.

😂 so Horry's buzzer beating game winner had nothing to do with it? OT? Both teams got calls and Lake show just wanted it more.

That Kings team was so good, they would be a top 3 team now, maybe even the best team (no disrespect to the Champs)

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-21-2015, 03:12 PM
Who on the 01 Lakers could even try and guard Curry? Warriors are perfect to take that team out. Iggy making Kobe work.

Who's guarding Shaq?

Bogut obviously. I would like to know how the Lakers plan on guarding Steph Curry and the Warriors small ball lineup.

Is this real life?

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 03:19 PM
No real response huh? Figured. Lmao.

You really want me to respond? I'm not even sure if you're serious.... Did you see Prime Shaq? He was absolutely unstoppable. Bogut would foul out by half time, they would need constant double teams... Kobe would go off, and no one is getting to the rim, Warriors would need to be extra hot from the outside to even have a chance against this all time dominant team.

Yes I watched Shaq since LSU. He couls get his 40ppg it wouldn't mean they win. Kobe would go off? Lmao. Did you see what the Warriors just did to Lebron? He couldnt even shoot 40%. Still waiting to hear how the Lakers could guard Curry. Extra hot? They have two career 40% 3pt shooters. It wouldnt take much.

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 03:22 PM
Who on the 01 Lakers could even try and guard Curry? Warriors are perfect to take that team out. Iggy making Kobe work.

Who's guarding Shaq?

Bogut obviously. I would like to know how the Lakers plan on guarding Steph Curry and the Warriors small ball lineup.

Is this real life?

Lol. Another non-response. That Lakers team was not nearly as athletic as the Warriors. They would get crushed in the transition game.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 03:52 PM
There would be no transition game, all you would have to do is throw the ball down low in the paint. Then Shaq monster slam and a foul. Yes Kobe would go off, Shaq would need to be consistently double teamed, I'm not taking anything away from the Warriors but they would have no way of stopping the Diesel.

KB24PG16
06-21-2015, 04:12 PM
01 lakers

LakersIn5
06-21-2015, 04:38 PM
01 lakers. Stop comparing 2015 cavs vs the warriors to the 01 lakers. It aint even fair. Lebrn had to be no.1 2 and 3 option thus the less than 40%fg so stop hating. I dont care if curry scores 40 a game vs 01 lakers. (Which i doubt, he cant even average 30 against delly) 01 kobe would lock klay, fox would equalize iggy and horry would be wide open all day when green and bogut double shaq the entire game.

2001 lakers easily

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-21-2015, 04:40 PM
There would be no transition game, all you would have to do is throw the ball down low in the paint. Then Shaq monster slam and a foul. Yes Kobe would go off, Shaq would need to be consistently double teamed, I'm not taking anything away from the Warriors but they would have no way of stopping the Diesel.

Yeah I'm not sure what world Knicksorbust is living in right now.

Switch
06-21-2015, 04:56 PM
Yes I watched Shaq since LSU. He couls get his 40ppg it wouldn't mean they win. Kobe would go off? Lmao. Did you see what the Warriors just did to Lebron? He couldnt even shoot 40%. Still waiting to hear how the Lakers could guard Curry. Extra hot? They have two career 40% 3pt shooters. It wouldnt take much.

I suggest you get off whatever drugs youre on

This isn't even close and no real argument against the 01 lakers

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 09:22 PM
There would be no transition game, all you would have to do is throw the ball down low in the paint. Then Shaq monster slam and a foul. Yes Kobe would go off, Shaq would need to be consistently double teamed, I'm not taking anything away from the Warriors but they would have no way of stopping the Diesel.

Kobe isn't better than Lebron. You make no sense. How can he go off against the best perimeter defense in the league?

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 09:25 PM
01 lakers. Stop comparing 2015 cavs vs the warriors to the 01 lakers. It aint even fair. Lebrn had to be no.1 2 and 3 option thus the less than 40%fg so stop hating. I dont care if curry scores 40 a game vs 01 lakers. (Which i doubt, he cant even average 30 against delly) 01 kobe would lock klay, fox would equalize iggy and horry would be wide open all day when green and bogut double shaq the entire game.

2001 lakers easily

Finally a real post. LeBron was guarded 1 on 1 by Iggy in each of the last 3 games. If Iggy can lock up Bron he can lock up Kobe. Do you think the Lakers would shoot a hard double at Curry everytime? With Shaq that would be comical. He would get torches guarding Curry on the perimeter or you would force Fisher to chase around the screen (a nightmare) or go UNDER which would give the best 3pt shooter in NBA history wide open 3s.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 09:28 PM
😂 I'm done.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 09:30 PM
How many players are on the court for each team?

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 09:30 PM
There would be no transition game, all you would have to do is throw the ball down low in the paint. Then Shaq monster slam and a foul. Yes Kobe would go off, Shaq would need to be consistently double teamed, I'm not taking anything away from the Warriors but they would have no way of stopping the Diesel.

Yeah I'm not sure what world Knicksorbust is living in right now.

Lol the world where a 67 win start of a dynasty team who surgically elimated and replaced the best player in the world gets criminally underrated.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 09:32 PM
:smoking: pass it this way mang

KnicksorBust
06-21-2015, 09:34 PM
Lol that's what I thought. Another fake.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 10:48 PM
😂 bro you can talk about it all you want, the facts are you're absolutely wrong. Shaq would destroy.


I keep it cool as ****, I'm not trying to troll you but don't sit there and think you're on a high horse. Everyone disagrees wth you.... For a reason. But I respect your decision.

GREATNESS ONE
06-21-2015, 10:49 PM
So I keep it classy. 👌🏼

Teeboy1487
06-21-2015, 11:00 PM
You guys underestimate those younger Spurs teams imo.

lakerboy
06-22-2015, 01:28 AM
Who on the 01 Lakers could even try and guard Curry? Warriors are perfect to take that team out. Iggy making Kobe work.

Lol Dreymond and Bogut couldn't even handle Tristan Thompson and Mozgov. Shaq would drop 50 on that Warriors team.

Dreymond is like 6'7. Shaq will have a field on this series.

Fish will guard Curry.

And LOL @ Iggy guarding Kobe. In 2001, here's a list of people who guarded Kobe:
Doug Christie (Kings)
Bruce Bowen (Spurs)
Scottie Pippen (Blazers)
Raja Bell (Sixers)

These are all ELITE defenders.

Yes. In one year, the 01 Lakers beat the Spurs, Kings, Blazers and Sixers.

I honestly think this 2001 Lakers is one of the best of all time. I don't know if any of MJ's teams could beat them.

mjt20mik
06-22-2015, 01:32 AM
Lol Dreymond and Bogut couldn't even handle Tristan Thompson and Mozgov. Shaq would drop 50 on that Warriors team.

Dreymond is like 6'7. Shaq will have a field on this series.

Fish will guard Curry.

And LOL @ Iggy guarding Kobe. In 2001, here's a list of people who guarded Kobe:
Doug Christie (Kings)
Bruce Bowen (Spurs)
Scottie Pippen (Blazers)
Raja Bell (Sixers)

These are all ELITE defenders.

Yes. In one year, the 01 Lakers beat the Spurs, Kings, Blazers and Sixers.

I honestly think this 2001 Lakers is one of the best of all time. I don't know if any of MJ's teams could beat them.

I lol'd when I read the other post too.

The Warriors won an excuse me championship this year. Seeding was in their favour, but they wouldn't have gotten out of the west if they faced the Spurs. Also, a healthy Cavs team would have beat them for sure.

2000/2001 Lakers team would have annihilated them. Kobe was insane, they had depth, and Shaq would have Draymond Green his *****.

numba1CHANGsta
06-22-2015, 03:13 AM
I just don't see who would stop a prime Shaq+a pre-prime Kobe who was pretty damn good for his age at the time. With the triangle+Phil coaching, no team could stop them. That 01 Lakers team swept the Spurs and the Spurs are probably the second best team out of this group of teams. Kinda sucks we never got to see a prime Kobe+Shaq vs MJ+Pippen or LeBron+Wade+Bosh, would have been epic af

Kyben36
06-22-2015, 04:38 AM
ill take one of the spurs team myself, 4/12 chance for hell sake, 25% chance one of the teams win, everyone allways under estimates them,

numba1CHANGsta
06-22-2015, 05:14 AM
ill take one of the spurs team myself, 4/12 chance for hell sake, 25% chance one of the teams win, everyone allways under estimates them,

And which one of those Spurs teams could beat the 01 Lakers? 14' Spurs? an old Duncan going up a prime Shaq? no way the Spurs win that series

Kyben36
06-22-2015, 06:56 AM
It honestly depends on other things as well, for as dominate as shaq was, He would not be as dominate today. He would not be able to bully the way the nba has changed today even over the last 10 years. as good as Shaq was in 01, or 00,

Also, who do the 01 lakers have to guard Duncan, shaq gona guard him hitting 15 foot bank shots all day.


2003 lakers still had shaq, kobe, and the gang, but they beat them did they not. 4-2 in the Conference simi finals. and dont give me shaq was old. he was averaging 27 points and 11 rebounds at age 30 and Kobe was Prime athletic 24 year old Kobe too.

dont Fans Love to think that Shaq and Kobe can carry them to the promis land, and they did for a while, till teams like the Spurs in 2003 and 2004 pistons figured out how to beat them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GwjNWJHYg0
Hell, 1999 David Robinson Swept the Lakers and held Shaq Down. with the help of ROY Tim Duncan of course.

kdspurman
06-22-2015, 08:00 AM
And which one of those Spurs teams could beat the 01 Lakers? 14' Spurs? an old Duncan going up a prime Shaq? no way the Spurs win that series

I'd be curious to see how Shaq holds up with the way the Spurs ran and moved the ball so much in the half court.

Just as you say how could we stop Shaq, how would the Lakers slow down that offense? They certainly weren't as deep either.

I think it'd be a fun match up to see either way

thenaj17
06-22-2015, 10:03 AM
bummer, the 2 I have meet in round 2 (14' Spurs and 01' Lakers).

So whichever team wins that game runs it to me.

Exactly this.

Easily the best 2 teams of these whole 16 but happen to be 6 & 14 seeds because of reg season records...

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 11:25 AM
😂 bro you can talk about it all you want, the facts are you're absolutely wrong. Shaq would destroy.


I keep it cool as ****, I'm not trying to troll you but don't sit there and think you're on a high horse. Everyone disagrees wth you.... For a reason. But I respect your decision.

:laugh: Nothing you said was fact and you didn't even back up your opinion with anything of substance.

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 11:36 AM
Lol Dreymond and Bogut couldn't even handle Tristan Thompson and Mozgov. Shaq would drop 50 on that Warriors team.

Dreymond is like 6'7. Shaq will have a field on this series.

Fish will guard Curry.

And LOL @ Iggy guarding Kobe. In 2001, here's a list of people who guarded Kobe:
Doug Christie (Kings)
Bruce Bowen (Spurs)
Scottie Pippen (Blazers)
Raja Bell (Sixers)

These are all ELITE defenders.

Yes. In one year, the 01 Lakers beat the Spurs, Kings, Blazers and Sixers.

I honestly think this 2001 Lakers is one of the best of all time. I don't know if any of MJ's teams could beat them.

They couldn't handle them? huh? Mozgov/TT combined for about 24ppg. Mozgov had one great game that took place during a blow-out win for GState. That's hardly impressive.

First of all, this idea that you can use "well Kobe did well against Doug Christie!" to prove that he would do well against Iguodala and the entire Warriors defense makes no sense to me. Let's break it down:

You have 35 year old past his prime Pippen who had just posted his worst season since the late 80s.
Doug Christie was in his prime. So I will give you that one. Kobe shot 47/20/86 in that series.
Bruce Bowen. He was on Miami that year. Nice try though. LOL
Raja Bell. He played about 15mpg during that series and Kobe shot terribly at 41/33/84. Yikes.

Suddenly doesn't look nearly so great. You are using players who are at the end of their careers, players from THE WRONG team, and players that played 15mpg to prove your argument. Weak.

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 11:41 AM
I lol'd when I read the other post too.

The Warriors won an excuse me championship this year. Seeding was in their favour, but they wouldn't have gotten out of the west if they faced the Spurs. Also, a healthy Cavs team would have beat them for sure.

2000/2001 Lakers team would have annihilated them. Kobe was insane, they had depth, and Shaq would have Draymond Green his *****.

The Warriors were so clearly better than the rest of the league this season. They were the best defensive team in the league and the 2nd best offensive team in the league. They had chemistry. They had depth. They would have dismantled the Spurs just as easily as they did the Pelicans, Grizzlies, Rockets, Cavs.

kdspurman
06-22-2015, 11:44 AM
The Warriors were so clearly better than the rest of the league this season. They were the best defensive team in the league and the 2nd best offensive team in the league. They had chemistry. They had depth. They would have dismantled the Spurs just as easily as they did the Pelicans, Grizzlies, Rockets, Cavs.

That is doubtful... SA would have matched up just fine against them. Kawhi/Green routinely slow down Curry/Thompson, and they have the ability to play small or big + the depth to match GS's bench.

lakerboy
06-22-2015, 11:47 AM
The Warriors were so clearly better than the rest of the league this season. They were the best defensive team in the league and the 2nd best offensive team in the league. They had chemistry. They had depth. They would have dismantled the Spurs just as easily as they did the Pelicans, Grizzlies, Rockets, Cavs.

No doubt the Warriors were the best team this season. But come on man, do you really think they'll beat any of the Shaq/Kobe Lakers teams? That's crazy. Dreymond Green is 6'7 and will be annihilated alive by Shaq on the court. I'm not even going on Kobe anymore, just Shaq.

I even think the Spurs team last year would kill this GSW team. As good as they are, this GSW team underachieved in the finals actually. I think even next year they'll be better. Bogut and Klay never really showed up in the finals.

lakerboy
06-22-2015, 11:50 AM
I'd be curious to see how Shaq holds up with the way the Spurs ran and moved the ball so much in the half court.

Just as you say how could we stop Shaq, how would the Lakers slow down that offense? They certainly weren't as deep either.

I think it'd be a fun match up to see either way

How would you rank the Spurs teams? The '14 Spurs were good but I thought the 2006/07 Spurs that killed Lebron would have a great shot at beating them. Younger Timmy and younger Manu would be fun to watch again.

mjarmentasr
06-22-2015, 02:19 PM
Whichever Lakers team it was that went 15-1 in the playoffs that year. Nobody is beating that team 4 times in a series. Shaq was unstoppable.

GREATNESS ONE
06-22-2015, 02:22 PM
Whichever Lakers team it was that went 15-1 in the playoffs that year. Nobody is beating that team 4 times in a series. Shaq was unstoppable.

Idk bro, Bogut & Greens would slow him down and the Splash brothers would annihilate the Lakers in transition 😂

mjarmentasr
06-22-2015, 02:29 PM
Idk bro, Bogut & Greens would slow him down and the Splash brothers would annihilate the Lakers in transition ��

No, they wouldn't. We are moving away from dominant big men cuz there aren't any. All the dominant big men in the NBA right now cant shoot. Boogie is the dominant big rt now, and Shaq would make him look small. Watching those playoffs was like watching a high school kid play against a bunch of 8th graders. Forget the old overweight Shaq from the end of his Laker career and his Miami and Phoenix days. He couldn't even get off the ground by then. That year Shaq was at the top of the Mt.

People Forget.

GREATNESS ONE
06-22-2015, 02:34 PM
No, they wouldn't. We are moving away from dominant big men cuz there aren't any. All the dominant big men in the NBA right now cant shoot. Boogie is the dominant big rt now, and Shaq would make him look small. Watching those playoffs was like watching a high school kid play against a bunch of 8th graders. Forget the old overweight Shaq from the end of his Laker career and his Miami and Phoenix days. He couldn't even get off the ground by then. That year Shaq was at the top of the Mt.

People Forget.


I'm with ya homie 👌🏼

mjarmentasr
06-22-2015, 02:38 PM
No doubt the Warriors were the best team this season. But come on man, do you really think they'll beat any of the Shaq/Kobe Lakers teams? That's crazy. Dreymond Green is 6'7 and will be annihilated alive by Shaq on the court. I'm not even going on Kobe anymore, just Shaq.

I even think the Spurs team last year would kill this GSW team. As good as they are, this GSW team underachieved in the finals actually. I think even next year they'll be better. Bogut and Klay never really showed up in the finals.

Im glad Lebron lost, - again........... I just don't like that guy. But people are acting like GSW were one of the best teams ever. im glad they won. Steph looks like a genuine good guy and I was glad to see the western conf win again. But....

I don't have any illusions, I think if Kyrie were healthy and Love was at full strength the Cavs win....... and they would have done it playing bigs against small ball. I just hope Oklahoma City is at full strength next year and are good enough to thwart Lebron again.

kdspurman
06-22-2015, 02:46 PM
How would you rank the Spurs teams? The '14 Spurs were good but I thought the 2006/07 Spurs that killed Lebron would have a great shot at beating them. Younger Timmy and younger Manu would be fun to watch again.

I think they would beat that 2007 team. I know TD was younger and Manu was obviously better, but this team was probably deeper, whereas that 2007 relied a lot on the big 3. Guys like Horry, Barry, & Finley played big roles at different times, I think this 2014 team was too good both offensively and defensively.

Even TD at his age now is still able to use his smarts to be an elite defender and score when needed.

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 02:54 PM
That is doubtful... SA would have matched up just fine against them. Kawhi/Green routinely slow down Curry/Thompson, and they have the ability to play small or big + the depth to match GS's bench.

The team that knocked the Spurs out didn't even get to the WCF. Duncan/Parker/Manu are not the same. Kawhi is showing the potential of carrying more of a load but even he fell apart the end of the Clippers series. A team in the transition of eras is not going to knock out the best team in the game.

Bruno
06-22-2015, 03:08 PM
zero point debating Lakers Warriors until we clarify which eras rules we are playing under. if you can't touch golden state (like today), it'd be hard for the physical Laker teams to play their kind of ball on the defensive end.

also, hacking Shaq is a problem. although it would slow down the game which favors the Lakers.

I think a 31 year old Iggy is better suited against a 30 year old LBJ. at his age, guarding a 23 year old who's at the height of his athleticism would be a problem for GS. imo.

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 03:12 PM
No doubt the Warriors were the best team this season. But come on man, do you really think they'll beat any of the Shaq/Kobe Lakers teams? That's crazy. Dreymond Green is 6'7 and will be annihilated alive by Shaq on the court. I'm not even going on Kobe anymore, just Shaq.

I even think the Spurs team last year would kill this GSW team. As good as they are, this GSW team underachieved in the finals actually. I think even next year they'll be better. Bogut and Klay never really showed up in the finals.

I've yet to see anyone make a reasonable argument why they wouldn't. Go back and re-read the counter arguments people are making. It consists of "what are you smoking?" "you're crazy" AND "shaq would dunk the ball." The more of that I read the more convinced I am that "Shaq would dunk the ball" is all you have and that wouldn't be enough to beat the deepest elite 2-way Finals Champion since the 80s.

kdspurman
06-22-2015, 03:15 PM
The team that knocked the Spurs out didn't even get to the WCF. Duncan/Parker/Manu are not the same. Kawhi is showing the potential of carrying more of a load but even he fell apart the end of the Clippers series. A team in the transition of eras is not going to knock out the best team in the game.

That first line really doesn't have much to do with anything. This game is all about match-ups and the Spurs matched up better with GS than they did the Clips.

The same Spurs going through a transition won each finals game last year with a 14.5-point margin of victory, which was the highest in NBA Finals history + some other records they set during that run. They got hit with some injuries and that's what slowed them down. Duncan was solid all year, Parker was hurt all year, and Manu is who he is at this point.

They would have easily been GS's toughest opponent.

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 03:15 PM
zero point debating Lakers Warriors until we clarify which eras rules we are playing under. if you can't touch golden state (like today), it'd be hard for the physical Laker teams to play their kind of ball on the defensive end.

also, hacking Shaq is a problem. although it would slow down the game which favors the Lakers.

I think a 31 year old Iggy is better suited against a 30 year old LBJ. at his age, guarding a 23 year old who's at the height of his athleticism would be a problem for GS. imo.

And this is how you make an argument.

I would assume you would put them in the modern game which does favor Golden State. How do you guard Curry?

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 03:27 PM
That first line really doesn't have much to do with anything. This game is all about match-ups and the Spurs matched up better with GS than they did the Clips.

The same Spurs going through a transition won each finals game last year with a 14.5-point margin of victory, which was the highest in NBA Finals history + some other records they set during that run. They got hit with some injuries and that's what slowed them down. Duncan was solid all year, Parker was hurt all year, and Manu is who he is at this point.

They would have easily been GS's toughest opponent.

You say "they got hit with some injuries" as if that helps your argument? Manu and Parker are not the same players. Manu is out the door and Paker's game does not age well at all. It shows. The fact that these players are dealing with injuries and are past their prime just makes the Spurs an even weaker bounceback candidate. You also want to critique me for posting irrelevant information but try and use the Spurs points different from 2014 as proof? Come on KD.

kdspurman
06-22-2015, 03:35 PM
You say "they got hit with some injuries" as if that helps your argument? Manu and Parker are not the same players. Manu is out the door and Paker's game does not age well at all. It shows. The fact that these players are dealing with injuries and are past their prime just makes the Spurs an even weaker bounceback candidate. You also want to critique me for posting irrelevant information but try and use the Spurs points different from 2014 as proof? Come on KD.

I'm saying it's irrelevant to say "the team you lost to didn't even make the WCF". What does that prove? The playoffs have always been about matchups. Hell, the Clippers would have been a tougher match up then the Rockets were to GS, and they too lost to the Rockets.

I brought up their injuries cause they aren't a 7th seed if they didn't lose guys throughout the year that they did. It's not an excuse, but I'm not going to ignore what actually happened. I and most people realize they are not a "1st round exit team", even though it ended that way.

At the end of the day though, you've got your opinions & i've got mine.

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 03:41 PM
I'm saying it's irrelevant to say "the team you lost to didn't even make the WCF". What does that prove? The playoffs have always been about matchups. Hell, the Clippers would have been a tougher match up then the Rockets were to GS, and they too lost to the Rockets.

I brought up their injuries cause they aren't a 7th seed if they didn't lose guys throughout the year that they did. It's not an excuse, but I'm not going to ignore what actually happened. I and most people realize they are not a "1st round exit team", even though it ended that way.

At the end of the day though, you've got your opinions & i've got mine.

Right and I defend mine. Meanwhile you just joined the list of people that was directly faced with a specific set of arguments and dodged it.

kdspurman
06-22-2015, 03:44 PM
Right and I defend mine. Meanwhile you just joined the list of people that was directly faced with a specific set of arguments and dodged it.

Your argument is "The spurs would have lost to the Warriors because the team they lost to didn't make the WCF"

My argument is" The Spurs have the personnel to match up against GS and are just as deep and versatile"

YOU'RE better than that.... Your opinion doesn't make it true. Match up history has shown the Spurs play the Warriors very well, even if you look at the RS alone (though that doesn't tell the whole story and it's a small sample size)

GREATNESS ONE
06-22-2015, 03:46 PM
😂

ILLUSIONIST^248
06-22-2015, 04:43 PM
zero point debating Lakers Warriors until we clarify which eras rules we are playing under. if you can't touch golden state (like today), it'd be hard for the physical Laker teams to play their kind of ball on the defensive end.

also, hacking Shaq is a problem. although it would slow down the game which favors the Lakers.

I think a 31 year old Iggy is better suited against a 30 year old LBJ. at his age, guarding a 23 year old who's at the height of his athleticism would be a problem for GS. imo.

And this is how you make an argument.

I would assume you would put them in the modern game which does favor Golden State. How do you guard Curry?

Ever heard of Kobe Bryant?

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 09:44 PM
Right and I defend mine. Meanwhile you just joined the list of people that was directly faced with a specific set of arguments and dodged it.

Your argument is "The spurs would have lost to the Warriors because the team they lost to didn't make the WCF"

My argument is" The Spurs have the personnel to match up against GS and are just as deep and versatile"

YOU'RE better than that.... Your opinion doesn't make it true. Match up history has shown the Spurs play the Warriors very well, even if you look at the RS alone (though that doesn't tell the whole story and it's a small sample size)

You honestly think that is my argument? Re-read the posts I specifically made to you about the Spurs and you will see my other points. Do you honestly believe that the 2015 Spurs are better than the 2014 Spurs?

KnicksorBust
06-22-2015, 09:48 PM
zero point debating Lakers Warriors until we clarify which eras rules we are playing under. if you can't touch golden state (like today), it'd be hard for the physical Laker teams to play their kind of ball on the defensive end.

also, hacking Shaq is a problem. although it would slow down the game which favors the Lakers.

I think a 31 year old Iggy is better suited against a 30 year old LBJ. at his age, guarding a 23 year old who's at the height of his athleticism would be a problem for GS. imo.

And this is how you make an argument.

I would assume you would put them in the modern game which does favor Golden State. How do you guard Curry?

Ever heard of Kobe Bryant?

The fact that you think that is enough of an answer is proof that your response is superficial. How will Kobe guard the pick and roll? Will the Lakers hedge and double like the Cavs? How can Fisher possibly guard Klay Thompson? So now you have an exhausted Kobe running into screens for 40 minutes and being guarded by elite athletes like Iggy and you have a gross mismatch of Fish guarding Klay. Plus you still haven't even answered the question how you will actually guard Steph. The more you people make these weak replies the easier it is to see how right I am.

GREATNESS ONE
06-22-2015, 10:48 PM
Funny because you seem to be the only person who thinks they're right.


More power to you ✊🏼

YAALREADYKNO
06-22-2015, 10:56 PM
What the *******??? Crazy to think a 6'7 draymond green who couldn't even keep Tristan Thompson off the glass would contain 01 Shaq and don't even get me started on bogut. The man who was benched because he couldn't check mozgov and he's supposed to slow down shaq? Lololol GTFO!!!

YAALREADYKNO
06-22-2015, 10:56 PM
What the *******??? Crazy to think a 6'7 draymond green who couldn't even keep Tristan Thompson off the glass would contain 01 Shaq and don't even get me started on bogut. The man who was benched because he couldn't check mozgov and he's supposed to slow down shaq? Lololol GTFO!!!

birdstealsit
06-22-2015, 11:18 PM
08 Celtics or 04 Pistons.

Dat defense.

kdspurman
06-23-2015, 08:41 AM
You honestly think that is my argument? Re-read the posts I specifically made to you about the Spurs and you will see my other points. Do you honestly believe that the 2015 Spurs are better than the 2014 Spurs?

You did say that.. And you also said Manu & Parker weren't the same players (they had similar struggles last year as well, so I don't see why that would matter now)

But no, they are not better than the 2014 team, but that doesn't change the fact that they would match up the best with GS. Who would have won is anyone's guess, but no one could play the way GS makes you play like SA could have. Small/Big/Fast/Slow, however.

KnicksorBust
06-23-2015, 06:58 PM
You did say that.. And you also said Manu & Parker weren't the same players (they had similar struggles last year as well, so I don't see why that would matter now)

But no, they are not better than the 2014 team, but that doesn't change the fact that they would match up the best with GS. Who would have won is anyone's guess, but no one could play the way GS makes you play like SA could have. Small/Big/Fast/Slow, however.

There is not a doubt in my mind that we have already seen the best of Duncan/Manu/Ginobili. Duncan is due for his collapse but we already saw it with Manu and TP. There is no debate imo on whether or not Parker will be able to play to an advanced age. He won't. He was all speed and layups. A slight rebound? Maybe but nothing like the player that I considered a top 5 MVP candidate a few years ago. It took long enough but I no longer see the Spurs as a threat in the West. I didn't buy it this year which is why in all my bracket pools I had the Clippers. I'm envious that I never got to enjoy a reign of success like you did as a fan of SAS but it's clearly over and the fact that you think they would have been able to be a 67 win Champion is showing some homerism. Especially because you admit they are getting worse.

kdspurman
06-23-2015, 07:33 PM
There is not a doubt in my mind that we have already seen the best of Duncan/Manu/Ginobili. Duncan is due for his collapse but we already saw it with Manu and TP. There is no debate imo on whether or not Parker will be able to play to an advanced age. He won't. He was all speed and layups. A slight rebound? Maybe but nothing like the player that I considered a top 5 MVP candidate a few years ago. It took long enough but I no longer see the Spurs as a threat in the West. I didn't buy it this year which is why in all my bracket pools I had the Clippers. I'm envious that I never got to enjoy a reign of success like you did as a fan of SAS but it's clearly over and the fact that you think they would have been able to be a 67 win Champion is showing some homerism. Especially because you admit they are getting worse.

It honestly has nothing to do with homerism. I'm not the only one who's said they had the best chance to beat GS. Damn near every analyst said the same, and many folks on here as well.

That's fine you don't consider them a threat, everyone has their own opinions on what teams are threats and who isn't. I've heard they weren't threats since they were bounced by OKC 3 years back. I know that regardless of what most people say, as long as they have certain pieces in place and Pop, they will be a threat.

I don't listen to much of the chatter about SA, many times it's off base. I will defend them when I see fit and say my piece, and that's about it. Bottom line, you think they'd have no chance against GS, I and others feel differently. That's the beauty of sports forums

KnicksorBust
06-23-2015, 09:39 PM
There is not a doubt in my mind that we have already seen the best of Duncan/Manu/Ginobili. Duncan is due for his collapse but we already saw it with Manu and TP. There is no debate imo on whether or not Parker will be able to play to an advanced age. He won't. He was all speed and layups. A slight rebound? Maybe but nothing like the player that I considered a top 5 MVP candidate a few years ago. It took long enough but I no longer see the Spurs as a threat in the West. I didn't buy it this year which is why in all my bracket pools I had the Clippers. I'm envious that I never got to enjoy a reign of success like you did as a fan of SAS but it's clearly over and the fact that you think they would have been able to be a 67 win Champion is showing some homerism. Especially because you admit they are getting worse.

It honestly has nothing to do with homerism. I'm not the only one who's said they had the best chance to beat GS. Damn near every analyst said the same, and many folks on here as well.

That's fine you don't consider them a threat, everyone has their own opinions on what teams are threats and who isn't. I've heard they weren't threats since they were bounced by OKC 3 years back. I know that regardless of what most people say, as long as they have certain pieces in place and Pop, they will be a threat.

I don't listen to much of the chatter about SA, many times it's off base. I will defend them when I see fit and say my piece, and that's about it. Bottom line, you think they'd have no chance against GS, I and others feel differently. That's the beauty of sports forums

Agreed. Classy response. People have told me I can sound condescending at times so I appreciate you staying respectful. I hope your Spurs prove me wrong and go on another deep run next year. At the end of the day my main point is that this year's Warriors team is severely underrated both as a current team (already posts in a thread about them losing in round 1 next year) and a historic team.

kdspurman
06-23-2015, 10:17 PM
Agreed. Classy response. People have told me I can sound condescending at times so I appreciate you staying respectful. I hope your Spurs prove me wrong and go on another deep run next year. At the end of the day my main point is that this year's Warriors team is severely underrated both as a current team (already posts in a thread about them losing in round 1 next year) and a historic team.

Ha.. Of course man. No need in getting disrespectful cause of a disagreement. It is what it is.

I also hope we can prove folks wrong as well, TD (nothing official yet) looks to be coming back for maybe a year or 2, so this is probably the last ride. I've become spoiled to a certain degree, and like I said I've heard the "too old" "window closed" talk probably since 2007 or 2008. So I don't really sweat it too much when people say they're done. There's certain expectations I have for them, and they could very well be unreasonable at times. But until Duncan calls it quits, I feel like there will always be enough pieces around him for them to make some noise. & Since Kawhi came on board, I think that just brought us even more time to keep that window open.

And I can agree with you about the Warriors team. If I'm being honest, they did underwhelm me a bit in the finals, I was expecting more, but that shouldn't take away what they did prior to that series and in the RS. They played really, really good ball on both ends all season.

Lots of teams have some "?'s" heading into the summer with FA's and what not. We'll see what happens... Should be exciting though.

AntiG
06-23-2015, 11:14 PM
01 Lakers or 08 Celtics. The Lakers had Shaq in his most dominant form, and that Celtics team was downright unstoppable with their mix of fluid teamwork/chemistry, depth, offensive efficiency, intensity and arguably the best or 2nd best defense ever.

GREATNESS ONE
06-24-2015, 12:00 AM
No one, not Wilt, not Kareem, not KG, not Duncan, nobody is stopping 01 Shaq.

Bruno
06-24-2015, 12:36 AM
And this is how you make an argument.

I would assume you would put them in the modern game which does favor Golden State. How do you guard Curry?
Call me crazy but I'd put prime Fisher on him all series and I'd have my big men hedge low and cut off the passing lanes. I think with the way Golden State is constructed giving up the passing lanes and allowing them to move the ball is more deadly, from a strategy perspective which considers stamina.

For better or for worse I'd let Curry 'get his' and I'd attempt to lock down the rest of the team; Kobe on Klay (or Fox on Klay, Kobe on Iggy which might allow Kobe to roam). Plus, Curry wouldn't have it as easy on the defensive end against Fisher. 2001 was the best post-season of Fishers career; the guy literally shot 52% from three, on a .618 TS% with a a WS/48 of .206, which is all-star level. Curry would have to chase Fisher as an elite floor spreader all series, which would exhaust him, especially if you're baiting him into carrying their offense. Sure he flirts with 50 points a couple of times, but has a dud as well; the point is to get the series to 2-2 and hope that you've exhausted him by the time close out games start happening.

Chronz
06-24-2015, 11:04 AM
Call me crazy but I'd put prime Fisher on him all series and I'd have my big men hedge low and cut off the passing lanes. I think with the way Golden State is constructed giving up the passing lanes and allowing them to move the ball is more deadly, from a strategy perspective which considers stamina.

For better or for worse I'd let Curry 'get his' and I'd attempt to lock down the rest of the team; Kobe on Klay (or Fox on Klay, Kobe on Iggy which might allow Kobe to roam). Plus, Curry wouldn't have it as easy on the defensive end against Fisher. 2001 was the best post-season of Fishers career; the guy literally shot 52% from three, on a .618 TS% with a a WS/48 of .206, which is all-star level. Curry would have to chase Fisher as an elite floor spreader all series, which would exhaust him, especially if you're baiting him into carrying their offense. Sure he flirts with 50 points a couple of times, but has a dud as well; the point is to get the series to 2-2 and hope that you've exhausted him by the time close out games start happening.

Why not put Kobe on Steph and allow Fish to chase Klay? Kobe would clamp down on Klay but Fish would do more than respectable on Klay. Hes adept at fighting through screens and cant be bodied up by bigger players. Hes always done a good job defending bigger players. And was Kobe as great of a free safety back then? I know when he was on Rondo he did an EXCELLENT job at jamming the middle. JVG called it Pippen-esque.