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kdspurman
05-18-2015, 01:44 PM
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May 20 Game 1 at Atlanta, 7:30 p.m. (TNT)

May 22 Game 2 at Atlanta, 8:30 p.m. (TNT)

May 24 Game 3 at Cleveland, 8:30 p.m. (TNT)

May 26 Game 4 at Cleveland, 8:30 p.m. (TNT)

May 28 Game 5 (if necessary) at Atlanta, 8:30 p.m. (TNT)

May 30 Game 6 (if necessary) at Cleveland, 8:30 p.m. (TNT)

June 1 Game 7 (if necessary) at Atlanta, 8:30 p.m. (TNT)


Projected Starting Lineups:

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C: Timofy Mozgov
PF: Tristan Thompson
SF: Lebron James
SG: J.R. Smith
PG: Kyrie Irving


Projected Starting Lineups:
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C: Al Horford
PF: Paul Milsap
SF: Demare Carroll
SG: Kyle Korver
PG: Jeff Teague


Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland

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Phillips Arena, Atlanta

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MinnesotaFtw
05-18-2015, 01:47 PM
Cavs in 6.

still1ballin
05-18-2015, 02:28 PM
:yawn:

Vee-Rex
05-18-2015, 02:45 PM
Kyrie Irving practiced today in full. He may not be 100% come gametime, but he should be much more healthy than he was during the Bulls series.

So I'm gonna be bold. Assuming there are no further injuries, I'm taking Cleveland in 5. LBJ and Kyrie have a terrific series, and this Cavs team find a new defensive identity w/o Love that was started during the Bulls series.

Teeboy1487
05-18-2015, 02:54 PM
Cavs in 5. The Hawks have no answer for Lebron James and that will be their downfall when the games are close.

Jarvo
05-18-2015, 03:15 PM
This gonna be an boring *** series I think, Cavs win in 6.

HoopsDrive
05-18-2015, 03:22 PM
Hard to predict this one, Cavs will probably be the favorite for most people but the Hawks match pretty well with them aside from not having the personnel that can reliably check LeBron... but then again very few teams can claim that feat.

The Hawks to me are a better unit but the Cavs have LeBron so it's a close call. If guys like Korver and Teague can remain consistent for stretches I see the Hawks pulling away.

lol, please
05-18-2015, 03:33 PM
I see the Hawks surprising everyone and taking this in 5. We see the best Hawks team all season before they implode against a better team from the West in the Dubs or Rockets.

MinnesotaFtw
05-18-2015, 03:48 PM
I don't think there is anyway the Hawks can pull this out. LeBron is going to dominate this series, and I would even say so without Irving as well.

JLeBeau76
05-18-2015, 03:48 PM
Outside of the Spurs, who had more years and more talent, the Hawks brand of ball doesn't translate well to a seven game series. After two games there isn't going to be anything new to show opponents so it'll basically come down to alot of isolation ball.



With Atlanta not having a goto guy, and the Cavs having one (two if Irving is at least 70%), the edge will go to them.



Cavs in six

Minimal
05-18-2015, 04:57 PM
Cavs in 5

FlashBolt
05-18-2015, 05:56 PM
Kyrie Irving practiced today in full. He may not be 100% come gametime, but he should be much more healthy than he was during the Bulls series.

So I'm gonna be bold. Assuming there are no further injuries, I'm taking Cleveland in 5. LBJ and Kyrie have a terrific series, and this Cavs team find a new defensive identity w/o Love that was started during the Bulls series.

I think Irving went out and said that the only way for him to get healthy is by not playing. I'm assuming he needs a couple of weeks more of not playing before he can really get healthy. This 1 week rest will surely help but you have to wonder just how much he's going through even though they had 1 week for the Bulls series as well.

goingfor28
05-18-2015, 06:09 PM
Go Hawks!

lol, please
05-18-2015, 06:10 PM
Go Hawks!
:clap:

Vee-Rex
05-18-2015, 06:19 PM
I think Irving went out and said that the only way for him to get healthy is by not playing. I'm assuming he needs a couple of weeks more of not playing before he can really get healthy. This 1 week rest will surely help but you have to wonder just how much he's going through even though they had 1 week for the Bulls series as well.

That's true.

He looked fairly ok starting off in game 6, then he stepped on Thompson's foot and re-aggravated his injury. If he can be somewhat like that game 6 start against the Bulls then I suppose Cavs fans can only be grateful.

You're right though, a 7 game series can be long. I'm not sure he'll last as long as needed. That really blows.

FlashBolt
05-18-2015, 06:21 PM
That's true.

He looked fairly ok starting off in game 6, then he stepped on Thompson's foot and re-aggravated his injury. If he can be somewhat like that game 6 start against the Bulls then I suppose Cavs fans can only be grateful.

You're right though, a 7 game series can be long. I'm not sure he'll last as long as needed. That really blows.

I'm thinking the Cavs should start Delly and see how it goes before inserting Kyrie. It may come to a point where Cleveland might beat Hawks if J.R./Shump/Delly (who is a better defender than Kyrie)/Thompson step up like they did in g6 vs Bulls. Kyrie HAS to be close to healthy if they want to beat the Warriors or else Curry will just start raining threes.

Vee-Rex
05-18-2015, 06:42 PM
@joevardon: I'm forbidden from Periscoping this, but Kyrie is shooting and jumping casually with no problem.

@FSOhioZJackson: LeBron and Kyrie are the last two Cavs shooting after practice, by a large margin. There's a lesson here but I'm busy thinking about lunch.

Thanks to JLeBeau76

FraziersKnicks
05-18-2015, 07:08 PM
I had Cavs in 6 against the Bulls and I'll go with the same prediction here.

numba1CHANGsta
05-19-2015, 03:45 AM
I love how the NBA is giving the Cavs all this time off just so Irving and the rest of the roster can rest LOL the NBA is a disgrace, don't even watch this series we all know the Cavs are going to win

FraziersKnicks
05-19-2015, 04:03 AM
I love how the NBA is giving the Cavs all this time off just so Irving and the rest of the roster can rest LOL the NBA is a disgrace, don't even watch this series we all know the Cavs are going to win

:laugh2: :rolleyes:

The conference finals were always scheduled to start on the 19th (west) and 20th (east). But everything's to benefit the Cavs isn't it...

It's not like the Hawks have got all this time off as well is it...

FlashBolt
05-19-2015, 05:06 PM
I love how the NBA is giving the Cavs all this time off just so Irving and the rest of the roster can rest LOL the NBA is a disgrace, don't even watch this series we all know the Cavs are going to win

Yeah, because that's totally what they're doing... And if the Cavs lose, it's because LeBron sucks. If the Cavs win, it's because it is fixed.

Ryan328
05-19-2015, 05:45 PM
Cavs in 6

nastynice
05-20-2015, 01:13 AM
:laugh2: :rolleyes:

The conference finals were always scheduled to start on the 19th (west) and 20th (east). But everything's to benefit the Cavs isn't it...

It's not like the Hawks have got all this time off as well is it...

they didn't. the league forced them to play d league games

lol, please
05-20-2015, 12:52 PM
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?891839-May-20-2015-NBA-Playoffs

vBookie event is up!!

:dance:

lol, please
05-20-2015, 04:41 PM
Taking the under here (198 -105)

DEFENSE!!! Go Hawks!

kdspurman
05-20-2015, 05:56 PM
I like the Hawks chances in this series. They need to play the way that got them the #1 seed, ball movement, solid execution, and knocking down the 3. Korver definitely needs to get going though

Bostonjorge
05-20-2015, 06:18 PM
No one is watching this series

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 08:20 PM
Bud is a protege of Pop so you already know he's going to give Lebron the Spurs treatment. Back up and dare him to shoot. Lebron is 42% for the playoffs and was a pitiful 11% of threes against Chicago going 3 for 28 from deep. He's building a brick house, they'll build a wall around him and live with taking open Js.

That and the fact that Lebron doesn't get to relax on D like he did against offensively anemic Noah and I got the Hawks in 7. Kyrie will do his thing but I don't think it will be enough.

And by the way the Hawks are a 1 point underdog tonight even though they're at home for those who are enamored with such things .....

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 08:38 PM
This is going to be a good series. The quality of basketball is the best we've seen out of the east this year. These are the rightful teams playing each other.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 08:45 PM
I love how the NBA is giving the Cavs all this time off just so Irving and the rest of the roster can rest LOL the NBA is a disgrace, don't even watch this series we all know the Cavs are going to win

Fail

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 08:47 PM
Hoping we can weather the storm for the first half. If we're within 6 at the half I'll be happy.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 08:48 PM
LeBron is being too passive. I don't understand how he approaches these games sometimes.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 08:51 PM
Irving looks pretty hot from 3 so far, he might be warming up for a good series. Apparently he said he feels no pain from his injuries anymore.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 08:52 PM
IMO this is the Cavs toughest series. I think the NBA champs are coming out of the east this year. No clue who is gonna win this. Don't like how the Cavs are looking against them early. The Hawks just play better, and Teague can outplay Kyrie. Gonna be super tough series for the Cavs to win.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 08:56 PM
Irving looks pretty hot from 3 so far, he might be warming up for a good series. Apparently he said he feels no pain from his injuries anymore.

That's what they all say. A week off certainly would give that impression but I really doubt he's 100%. Probably so his defense won't be exposed.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 08:57 PM
IMO this is the Cavs toughest series. I think the NBA champs are coming out of the east this year. No clue who is gonna win this. Don't like how the Cavs are looking against them early. The Hawks just play better, and Teague can outplay Kyrie. Gonna be super tough series for the Cavs to win.

No way either of these teams even gets 6 games out of the Warriors bro. But you are right, this will be a major challenge for Cleveland. The Hawks are no fluke.....

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 08:57 PM
Tristan is gonna be a serious problem for the Hawks.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 09:02 PM
Need to see James be more aggressive. Carroll can't stop him. No reason for him to be "limited."

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 09:03 PM
IMO this is the Cavs toughest series. I think the NBA champs are coming out of the east this year. No clue who is gonna win this. Don't like how the Cavs are looking against them early. The Hawks just play better, and Teague can outplay Kyrie. Gonna be super tough series for the Cavs to win.

I like the way we look at the end of the 1st. 6 turnovers vs their 1. They're shooting a much better percentage. They're playing their game and are only winning by 6.

So far I think they're 0/3 when shooting in the last 4 secs of the shot clock.

It will be a tough series for sure but I think we're good so far.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 09:11 PM
Weather that storm, boys. Hawks are playing their absolute best basketball at home and it's a tie game.

kdspurman
05-20-2015, 09:11 PM
jr keeping the cavs in it. he gets hot in a hurry man

ManRam
05-20-2015, 09:12 PM
hawks in 6

kdspurman
05-20-2015, 09:12 PM
Weather that storm, boys. Hawks are playing their absolute best basketball at home and it's a tie game.

both teams have been off for a bit. neither team is playing their absolute best, i think thats evident lol

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:17 PM
Seen a lot of bs calls for the hawks thus far

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 09:20 PM
Seen a lot of bs calls for the hawks thus far

Cavs getting no calls when driving.

I hate when LeBron plays like this. Most unstoppable force in the NBA yet he just holds on to the ball and just shoots a contested jumper. Drive man.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 09:20 PM
Seen a lot of bs calls for the hawks thus far

It starts lol. I think it's been decently officiated

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 09:21 PM
Game swinging back and forth. Our transition defense is looking terrible. Gotta step it up there.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 09:21 PM
Officiating is fine. Please don't start that mess.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 09:26 PM
Carroll frustrated. He is no Jimmy Butler. Not in the least. Hawks gonna have a long series dealing with LBJ.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:27 PM
Didn't like the call on delledova when he and Teague went for the loose ball. Teague put his hand on Delly's shoulder and pulled him back and then flopped and got the call.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:29 PM
Carroll frustrated. He is no Jimmy Butler. Not in the least. Hawks gonna have a long series dealing with LBJ.

I think Lebron just shows Carrol more respect. Not settling for jumpers like he'd take against the Bulls. I'll feel better about this series if Bron keeps his pace high and attacks relentlessly. Doesn't need to shoot, just attack and dish and suck the defense in. They are guarding him as a team so he needs to not look for his shot, and just continue to attack spots so he can get other guys open looks.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:34 PM
As long as Bron keeps going down low like he is, and playing like Charles Barkley, the Cavs will be able to win, but its still gonna be tough.

Minimal
05-20-2015, 09:35 PM
If Cavs have a better help defense on point guards, they would be up by 10 by now.

nastynice
05-20-2015, 09:36 PM
Damn Lebron is a beast. Love that my boy curry got mvp but lebron still the best player in the nba, easy

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:36 PM
If Cavs have a better help defense on point guards, they would be up by 10 by now.

Agreed, but I think they are scared to help because of the 3 ball. But they need to at least give a different look from time to time cause the PG are getting to the hole at will.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 09:36 PM
LeBron is getting hacked but that's the usual. That's why I laugh when people complain about him not getting fouls called on him - dude gets fouled all the time.

Nice first half. Our transition defense and at the rim has been terrible. We're doing a great job sticking to Korver though.

I like the way we look. If we can take a 6 point lead going into the 4th I'm happy.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 09:39 PM
Cavs are going to lose this series.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:40 PM
The breakdown showing just how much attention Bron gets. Every time he looks at the hoop, he's got at least 3 guys looking back at him ready to take a step in as soon as he takes his first step. Ive never seen so much attention on a player since Shaq.

JordansBulls
05-20-2015, 09:41 PM
Cavs are going to lose this series.

You think so? Hawks need to win games 1 and 2 at home to have a chance.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 09:45 PM
ernie is kind of annoying.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 09:45 PM
You think so? Hawks need to win games 1 and 2 at home to have a chance.

Just need one in ATL. Cleveland's far from unstoppable at home. I think ATL wins in 7. Kyrie is not healthy and that will probably only get worse going forward.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:47 PM
Cavs are going to lose this series.

I mean, do you really think its possible for you to be objective about a team with Bron on it. lol

Halfway playing.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 09:48 PM
I mean, do you really think its possible for you to be objective about a team with Bron on it. lol

Halfway playing.

You'd have a good laugh if you saw my posts from 09-11. I was written off as a Lebron apologist/homer.

I could care less about him either way at this point.

I won't be putting any money on this series, but if I did it would be on ATL.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:50 PM
ernie is kind of annoying.

He's just an ultra nerd at heart hanging with 3 of the "cool kids" so sometimes the chump in him comes out.

Were you referring to when Shaq pulled on Kenny's shoe and he got all scared/pissed?

bucketss
05-20-2015, 09:52 PM
over and back?

bucketss
05-20-2015, 09:53 PM
He's just an ultra nerd at heart hanging with 3 of the "cool kids" so sometimes the chump in him comes out.

Were you referring to when Shaq pulled on Kenny's shoe and he got all scared/pissed?

lol yeah that was weird.

mikekhelxD
05-20-2015, 09:53 PM
How can you miss that call? Lol

bucketss
05-20-2015, 09:56 PM
lebron 7-50 in the playoffs from three

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 09:56 PM
Bron stop shooting shots outside of 8 feet! You dont need to.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 09:59 PM
c'mon man im sick of injuries. gotta feel for all these guys

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:00 PM
Lebron was better @21 than he is right now.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:01 PM
I want them to show the ankle roll. I wanna see where the fans feet were. Floyd is at all the Bron games.

flea
05-20-2015, 10:02 PM
Honestly I'd put Horford on Lebron here and there to switch up the looks. If he wants to work in the mid-post let him deal with a bruiser.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:04 PM
Tristian Thompson is gonna come up on a fat contract this summer!

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:04 PM
Tristan is huuuuuugggggggeeeeee!

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:05 PM
Thompson and mozgov are killing the Hawks on the boards. Hawks are too small

flea
05-20-2015, 10:06 PM
There have been a few fishy calls on the Hawks screens. It's to be expected, but at least don't T them up when they have legitimate complaints.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:07 PM
Nice stop by Teague on lebron in the open court

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:07 PM
Irving just isn't as aggressive as he used to be. No lift on his shots either.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:08 PM
Irving just isn't as aggressive as he used to be. No lift on his shots either.

He's hurt dude. Doesn't look like himself at all.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 10:08 PM
they missed a foul on lebron there, honestly i don't blame guys like bron and blake griffin for flopping. they get absolutely hacked a lot, but don't get the calls they should at times.

WITZ
05-20-2015, 10:08 PM
Nice stop by Teague on lebron in the open court

Yea it was a nice slap on the wrist because he def didn't get ball :laugh2:

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:11 PM
Yea it was a nice slap on the wrist because he def didn't get ball :laugh2:

A few years ago that woulda be a poster

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:13 PM
Lebron was better @21 than he is right now.

So your saying he's been the best player in the NBA for 9 years. I agree.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:15 PM
C'mon ref. That was a foul. If I'm Blatt, I sit Irving the rest of this series. Seriously, this guy is not better than Delly right now.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:15 PM
So your saying he's been the best player in the NBA for 9 years. I agree.
It's apparent he's no longer the best player in the league, but yes he was for 7-9 years.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:15 PM
Antic thought that was a charge? Lol

bucketss
05-20-2015, 10:16 PM
It's apparent he's no longer the best player in the league, but yes he was for 7-9 years.

who is than?

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:16 PM
Like what Im seeing from Bron

goingfor28
05-20-2015, 10:17 PM
Some wack *** refereeing these past 2 min

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:17 PM
JR MF'n Swish!

bucketss
05-20-2015, 10:18 PM
it would be funny if the cavs run through the east without love and with a hobbled kyrie.

mngopher35
05-20-2015, 10:18 PM
Jr smith is on tonight, that step back was dirty

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:18 PM
No...no, bad shot JR! SWISH. Good shot JR!

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:18 PM
who is than?

Better players than Lebron? Curry and AD.

lamzoka
05-20-2015, 10:19 PM
The fix is in.

Hawks got no chance. The league won't let it happen. Cavs and lebron are just a sexier match up in the finals than the Hawks. It's all about rating.

Hawkize31
05-20-2015, 10:19 PM
it would be funny if the cavs run through the east without love and with a hobbled kyrie.

It would be even more funny if they ran through the East and the Western Conference Champion without Love and with a hobbled Kyrie.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:19 PM
They were looking to give mislay something. Good thing he's missing free throws

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:19 PM
Atlanta defense not looking good. We're missing wiiiide open shots.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:20 PM
ATL's shots feel tight right now. They're pushing them.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:21 PM
Holy crap. Bazemore

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:21 PM
Lol @ the refs fixing it... Grow up. James has been fouled more than two times..

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:22 PM
I can't say his name enough. Tristan!!!! He's dennis Rodman on the offensive glass. Its unreal.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:24 PM
TT really is an incredible offensive rebounder. Always in the right spot. Always attacking.

I have a feeling that shot doesn't count. SO close though. Might make or break the game for them.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:24 PM
Cavs lineup should be:

Mosgov
Thompson
James
Shump
Smith

Most productive group.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:24 PM
Schroeder is the new Rondo....and not in a good way

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:25 PM
Blatt needs to sit Kyrie for the entire series like I said.. They might not need him for this series if Smith is this good.

L8kers4life
05-20-2015, 10:25 PM
it would be funny if the cavs run through the east without love and with a hobbled kyrie.

It would not be funny it should be expected. LeBron is too good, and the East isnt good enoough to trully complete. This is no knock on LeBRon, Cavs even without Love have more talent then the Hawks, hawks play great team ball, but have no go to scorer, shoot too many jump shots, really have no one to check LeBron and are undersized and unproven. LeBron can and will lead them easily past the hawks and it wont be close.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:26 PM
I wanted us up by 6 going into the 4th. I think we're in good shape.

Atlanta has gotten lots of easy buckets as expected. But they suck at the end of shot clocks when we defend the gimmicks well. They have no one to guard LBJ. They won't outrebound us.

If we limit our turnovers and hit our open shots in the 4th we got this game.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:27 PM
Swish!

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:27 PM
Wow jr lol

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:28 PM
Lmfao. Well, when in doubt, just have JR Smith have the best game of his life.

WITZ
05-20-2015, 10:28 PM
Jr Swish thanks phil jackson :clap:

ManRam
05-20-2015, 10:28 PM
Happy for JR, man.

:dance:

bucketss
05-20-2015, 10:29 PM
It would not be funny it should be expected. LeBron is too good, and the East isnt good enoough to trully complete. This is no knock on LeBRon, Cavs even without Love have more talent then the Hawks, hawks play great team ball, but have no go to scorer, shoot too many jump shots, really have no one to check LeBron and are undersized and unproven. LeBron can and will lead them easily past the hawks and it wont be close.

they have 4 all stars, i honestly don't think cavs have more talent considering how hobbled irving is.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:29 PM
Knicks with the tank fail yesterday and JR Swish career high in 3s today.

Damn homey!

L8kers4life
05-20-2015, 10:29 PM
Cavs lineup should be:

Mosgov
Thompson
James
Shump
Smith

Most productive group.

This team is Loaded, look how good that lineup looks even without, Love and Irving, that is a playoff lineup right there, and much better defensively than with Love.-

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:30 PM
J.........................r.......................

ironkobe
05-20-2015, 10:31 PM
warriors got to chance against this cavs team

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:31 PM
Korver had been a complete liability. He can't defend or rebound.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:31 PM
If JR keeps this up for the rest of the playoffs, then Cavs will win the Chip pretty easily

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:32 PM
Hawks have no one to go to

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:32 PM
Jr put da team on his back doe.

mngopher35
05-20-2015, 10:32 PM
Unreal, go jr

Minimal
05-20-2015, 10:32 PM
JR cant miss

ManRam
05-20-2015, 10:34 PM
Take a fun trip down memory lane. Did you bash the Cleveland in-season moves? Probably.

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?882821-Woj-Cavs-have-a-trade-set-to-move-Waiters&

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:34 PM
Yeah get Kyrie out of there

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:35 PM
If JR keeps this up for the rest of the playoffs, then Cavs will win the Chip pretty easily

Hahah... correct.

Impossible, but correct.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:35 PM
This team is Loaded, look how good that lineup looks even without, Love and Irving, that is a playoff lineup right there, and much better defensively than with Love.-

How are they loaded in comparison with the remaining teams? Take the best player out of each team in the playoffs right now and the Cavs would rank in fourth behind Houston>Hawks>Warriors. I agree, they have a decent team (much better than James previous Cavs squad), but it really isn't stacked.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:35 PM
Jr put da team on his back doe.

Only in the east coast can JR Swish singlehandedly beat you!

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:35 PM
Take a fun trip down memory lane. Did you bash the Cleveland in-season moves? Probably.

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?882821-Woj-Cavs-have-a-trade-set-to-move-Waiters&

:laugh:

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:36 PM
Why is Irving still out there?

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:36 PM
Korver had been a complete liability. He can't defend or rebound.

Thats the Korver I know. Playing on a team with awesome ball rotation makes him nice, but if the ball rotation slows, he's not even an NBA player anymore. He's just flat garbage if he's not getting open looks.

Minimal
05-20-2015, 10:36 PM
This team is Loaded, look how good that lineup looks even without, Love and Irving, that is a playoff lineup right there, and much better defensively than with Love.-
LOL. That lineup looks good, because of 1 player. Replace that player with Carmelo and its a bottom feeder lineup.

Bring The Heat
05-20-2015, 10:36 PM
Must be tough being a knick fan. The tank ending up being a fail, and now seeing JR smith in the ECF raining threes lol..

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:37 PM
Time to let Bron dictate. Hell either get to the rim or get open shots for everyone else.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:37 PM
Lots of time left. I don't feel comfortable. They're at home, they'll be fired up.

meloman1592
05-20-2015, 10:37 PM
Lol didn't all you guys call jr smith trash? Look at him now

L8kers4life
05-20-2015, 10:38 PM
they have 4 all stars, i honestly don't think cavs have more talent considering how hobbled irving is.

They have 4 all stars but that is sayin nothing in the east. Not 1 of those 4 guys would sniff the all star team in the west. Lets just look whats on the floor right now.

Teague / Irving I will take irving hurt or not.
Shump/ Korver, I will take Korver
LeBron/ Carroll I will take Lebron
Thompson/ Milsap I will take Thompsons size, defense and rebounding
Horford/ Mozgov, I will take Horford, but Mozgov's size will give him trouble

3 point shooting Cavs
defense Cavs
coaching toss up probably Budenholzer
Size/Length Cavs
Bench Scoring Cavs (Jr Smith is easily the best bench player) Cavs also have Deledova, Miller, Jones
Homecourt/ Atlanta

Cavs are easily better

Not sure how anyone could pick the undersized Hawks, but trust me, theyhave no chance..

ManRam
05-20-2015, 10:38 PM
Only in the east coast can JR Swish singlehandedly beat you!

I mean, if any team's 4th or 5th best player shoots 8 for 11 from three you're probably going to be winning regardless of who you're playing. East or West. Assuming the rest of the team hasn't been completely incompetent.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:40 PM
LBJ iso is DEMORALIZING when he hit that shot. Hawks have no true all- stars and it's killing them

L8kers4life
05-20-2015, 10:42 PM
How are they loaded in comparison with the remaining teams? Take the best player out of each team in the playoffs right now and the Cavs would rank in fourth behind Houston>Hawks>Warriors. I agree, they have a decent team (much better than James previous Cavs squad), but it really isn't stacked.


I never said they were better than the west teams, I just said better than the Hawks. And that hawks team is severely overrated, as i stated earlier, not one of their 4 all stars would sniff the all star game in the west.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:42 PM
This series is over

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:42 PM
JR Smith is the only Cav bench player who has scored. Also, their leading scorer.

Seeing ATL down the stretch reminds me of how far they have fallen from their early season play. So strange. I still wouldn't be surprised to see them win in 7 though. Cavs were very fortunate they got an All-Time performance out of JR.

Whoever wins this series is getting swept.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:42 PM
Take a fun trip down memory lane. Did you bash the Cleveland in-season moves? Probably.

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?882821-Woj-Cavs-have-a-trade-set-to-move-Waiters&

Some things said on that thread:
LOLOLOL. Yes, let's improve the team by getting JR Smith!

How Phil got rid of JR is beyond me. Basically what it sounds like is the Knicks basically traded Shumpert for Jackson

JR Smith :confused:

if they get JR smith, seems like useless move,considering they're the same player.

That's madness. How,just tell me how Phil Jackson could send JR Smith away. I'm speechless.

**** that,I'm done. We could have him as our GM if that idiot called Jim Buss wasn't Lakers's boss.

Phil Jackson is a genius.





And I was just saying earlier the Knicks weren't done moving pieces. We somehow managed to get rid of JR and absorb no more money!

Phil

ManRam
05-20-2015, 10:42 PM
shiiitttt...

grabbing before he landed. no bueno.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 10:43 PM
omg another injury this is so sad.

northsider
05-20-2015, 10:43 PM
Really bad hyper extension.

Matter.
05-20-2015, 10:43 PM
ouch carroll

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:44 PM
Hopefully Carroll is fine. Might be a hyper extended leg. Why did the refs call a foul? No one touched him

chi-townlove1
05-20-2015, 10:44 PM
That's the series

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:45 PM
I never said they were better than the west teams, I just said better than the Hawks. And that hawks team is severely overrated, as i stated earlier, not one of their 4 all stars would sniff the all star game in the west.

They are better than the Hawks because LeBron James is that great. Sorry to break it to ya but this Cavs team isn't really all that special right now with a hobbled Irving and Love. Korver>Smith. Teague>Irving at this point. Horford>Mos. Thompson>Milsap. The key is James and he makes up a bunch for these inconsistencies. It's kinda like how Pelicans are just an okay team but because Davis is so good, you gotta give the Pelicans some respect.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 10:45 PM
Wow looks like another bad injury. Horrible

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 10:46 PM
Never seen injuries decimate teams this badly in the playoffs. Feels like every team has went thru some major injury

akagiredsuns
05-20-2015, 10:46 PM
And that is how you get a torn ACL. What a shame the kid has potential. But you just know the pain in his eyes

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:46 PM
Nevermind, Carrol's out for the series. And that's the series.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 10:47 PM
Cavs just won the series.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:48 PM
And that is how you get a torn ACL. What a shame the kid has potential. But you just know the pain in his eyes

Kid? Isn't he almost 30? Lol

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:48 PM
Only healthy team are the Warriors.. WOW. Sucks but it is what it is. Think Cavs win now after I've seen how undersized Milsap/Horford really are.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:48 PM
Carroll done? Peace out ATL!

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:49 PM
Carroll done? Peace out ATL!

No offense but he wasn't gonna stop Bron. That's the only reason he was there.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:50 PM
Well, it's could've been a good series. Now we'll just have to wait n see who cavs will be playing in the finals.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:51 PM
Well, it's could've been a good series. Now we'll just have to wait n see who cavs will be playing in the finals.

Cavs vs Warriors, no doubt about it.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 10:52 PM
I remember earlier in the year thinking how sneaky good it was for ATL to have Sefolosha + Carrol on Lebron for perimeter D in a potential ECF matchup.

So much for that I guess.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 10:52 PM
Cavs vs Warriors, no doubt about it.

Yea, I'm thinking so too.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:52 PM
I remember earlier in the year thinking how sneaky good it was for ATL to have Sefolosha + Carrol on Lebron for perimeter D in a potential ECF matchup.

So much for that I guess.

Haha, way to post that on the Warriors vs Rockets thread

Hawkize31
05-20-2015, 10:53 PM
10 point game... ATL not totally dead yet. Couple clutch 3s and this is a ballgame.

Chronz
05-20-2015, 10:53 PM
You'd have a good laugh if you saw my posts from 09-11. I was written off as a Lebron apologist/homer.

I could care less about him either way at this point.
Sad how often you have to point that out. At some point these claims of bias wear thin. Haven't you already broke It Down to him?

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 10:54 PM
LBJ iso is killing our offense

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 10:54 PM
Carroll done? Peace out ATL!

No offense but he wasn't gonna stop Bron. That's the only reason he was there.


You can't stop a great player. The point is Carroll was the best equipped to make Lebron work the hardest. Without him its a wrap!

bucketss
05-20-2015, 10:55 PM
lebrons handle use to be a lot tighter in years past

ManRam
05-20-2015, 10:56 PM
this cavs team isn't good enough to be declaring a series over 3/4ths of the way thru game 1...

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 10:58 PM
Clippers choke job 2.0....

Jarvo
05-20-2015, 10:58 PM
**** you Eastern Conference! The NBA should really look into having the best 16 teams in The League make The Playoffs.

flea
05-20-2015, 10:59 PM
Coach Bud switched up his coverage, and it's working. Milsap is not a great defender but I think having size on Lebron at times is disruptive. I wonder if Coach Bud won't go with Brand seeing some minutes a C so he can put Horford on Lebron at times. Horford is a very agile big man, probably the most agile C in the league, and is a very disciplined defender. Better strength too - it's just too bad that Milsap can't check Mozgov or Thompson at an adequate level.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 11:01 PM
Sad how often you have to point that out. At some point these claims of bias wear thin. Haven't you already broke It Down to him?

He wasn't here, so he doesn't know. -shrug

No Kyrie to close the game here. Impressive call by Blatt. Not every coach would do that.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 11:02 PM
lebron was hacked

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 11:02 PM
Lebron can't score right now, where's Jr?!

KobeOwnSU
05-20-2015, 11:02 PM
Don't choke bro...

tredigs
05-20-2015, 11:02 PM
Do you guys think the Spurs would have beat either of these teams? I feel like they'd have swept either.

jerellh528
05-20-2015, 11:04 PM
Do you guys think the Spurs would have beat either of these teams? I feel like they'd have swept either.

Spurs, clips, grizz, the list goes on lol

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 11:04 PM
Cavs should be ashamed of themselves right now.

flea
05-20-2015, 11:05 PM
Do you guys think the Spurs would have beat either of these teams? I feel like they'd have swept either.

If their PGs shoot better than 35% they win. If they perform merely average it might very well be a sweep. Very few teams can compete with the frontcourt depth the Spurs have.

mngopher35
05-20-2015, 11:05 PM
Do you guys think the Spurs would have beat either of these teams? I feel like they'd have swept either.

This cavs team wouldn't have a chance but if healthy I think they could compete. Spurs would definitely beat either of these teams though.

flea
05-20-2015, 11:05 PM
Reggie Miller is basically wrong about everything he says. Great player but man I get tired of listening to him blather.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 11:06 PM
Can someone please explain to me why Milsap has been guarding Lebron like he has Steph Curry range?

LakersIn5
05-20-2015, 11:06 PM
**** you Eastern Conference! The NBA should really look into having the best 16 teams in The League make The Playoffs.

I agree but in this case how can you complain? The 4 remaining teams have the 4 best records in the season.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:06 PM
James got fouled the last two drives. Cavs 100% healthy would have competed against any team.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 11:07 PM
Lmfao... Reggie is so right here. WHAT is Millsap doing guarding LBJ 40 feet out? The dude is shooting 14% from three and is 3x faster than you. I might give him a cushion? Maybe?

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 11:07 PM
Do you guys think the Spurs would have beat either of these teams? I feel like they'd have swept either.

Stop trolling, man. You came into this thread for that one purpose. Just stfu.

flea
05-20-2015, 11:07 PM
Can someone please explain to me why Milsap has been guarding Lebron like he has Steph Curry range?

Lebron has a loose handle but nobody could play him like that in his prime. Kawhi proved you can crowd him, make him more turnover prone, and otherwise cause him to exert energy when he would prefer not to.

IBleedPurple
05-20-2015, 11:07 PM
You can't stop a great player. The point is Carroll was the best equipped to make Lebron work the hardest. Without him its a wrap!Was still a wrap battle until they gave LeBonds the lane.

ManRam
05-20-2015, 11:08 PM
hawks 4-23515 from three and JR Smith went absolutely NOVA tonight. They still were right there. Not convinced this is gloom and doom for the Hawks at all. Not to mention Kyrie getting benched in favor of Delly again.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 11:09 PM
Stop trolling, man. You came into this thread for that one purpose. Just stfu.

It was an addition to this guys post:
**** you Eastern Conference! The NBA should really look into having the best 16 teams in The League make The Playoffs.


Stop crying child. Your team's doing great -- they have a shot at the title after all.

My question is very valid, and very interesting. How often is a 1st round loser such a better team than a team in the Finals?

ChI_ShIzzLe
05-20-2015, 11:11 PM
Warriors are gonna run a train through either of these teams. Now I'm kind of glad the Bulls lost cuz we would've got swept in the Finals if we managed to get there.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:12 PM
It was an addition to this guys post:


Stop crying child. Your team's doing great -- they have a shot at the title after all.

My question is very valid, and very interesting. How often is a 1st round loser such a better team than a team in the Finals?

And the Spurs may very well have beaten the Warriors too.. Just wait till the Finals. Saying the things you said in any fan's direction may come off the wrong way. It's like me going to the Warriors vs Rockets thread and saying the exact same stuff you said. True or not, it's annoying.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 11:12 PM
Golden State is probably watching this game and laughing hysterically right now!

flea
05-20-2015, 11:12 PM
hawks 4-23515 from three and JR Smith went absolutely NOVA tonight. They still were right there. Not convinced this is gloom and doom for the Hawks at all. Not to mention Kyrie getting benched in favor of Delly again.

I agree. Still think the Cavs should be favored, but even though the Cavs have better rebounding they aren't going to win the battle on the boards by as much as they did this game - not to mention the night of JR. Lebron also managed to be good tonight in spite of not shooting well, that's not always the case - especially against good Ds. This is going to be a solid series.

IKnowHoops
05-20-2015, 11:13 PM
haters gone hate.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:13 PM
hawks 4-23515 from three and JR Smith went absolutely NOVA tonight. They still were right there. Not convinced this is gloom and doom for the Hawks at all. Not to mention Kyrie getting benched in favor of Delly again.

Lol benched? What the hell is wrong with you dude was limping up and down the court playing hurt...

Jarvo
05-20-2015, 11:14 PM
It was an addition to this guys post:


Stop crying child. Your team's doing great -- they have a shot at the title after all.

My question is very valid, and very interesting. How often is a 1st round loser such a better team than a team in the Finals?


My Spurs are gone but if they were still in, No doubt.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 11:14 PM
And the Spurs may very well have beaten the Warriors too.. Just wait till the Finals. Saying the things you said in any fan's direction may come off the wrong way. It's like me going to the Warriors vs Rockets thread and saying the exact same stuff you said. True or not, it's annoying.

Sorry bud, this is the NBA forum, not their team homepage thread. They won't like everything they see.

Agreed that the Spurs could have beat the Warriors. I don't think that takes away from my point what so ever? The Clippers also would have smoked both these squads if this is the level they're currently at.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:14 PM
Some of you honestly think James is gonna sit there and let the Warriors just run over them. EVERY game has their pros and cons. Let's see what happens when it happens.. Cause if the Cavs do somehow win, we all know you're all going to say "WOW STACKED GOOD JOB REFS!!!!! OMGZ!!!!"

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:15 PM
Sorry bud, this is the NBA forum, not their team homepage thread. They won't like everything they see.

Agreed that the Spurs could have beat the Warriors. I don't think that takes away from my point what so ever? The Clippers also would have smoked both these squads if this is the level they're currently at.

It's also a game thread between Cavs vs Hawks so the convo should be regarding what goes on in the game and not what you think would have happened if this or that happened.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:15 PM
To all the people trashing Cleveland, this team is playing with Kyrie at 25% and Love out. That's 2 out of the big 3 and two of the top 20 NBA players. Just them beating Chicago and winning is impressive to me.

ManRam
05-20-2015, 11:15 PM
Lol benched? What the hell is wrong with you dude was limping up and down the court playing hurt...

Did you catch who was closing out the game for the Cavs? That was my point. He didn't play the final ~9 minutes.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:16 PM
Lol benched? What the hell is wrong with you dude was limping up and down the court playing hurt...

What's wrong with what he is saying? Kyrie was benched... rightfully so. They don't need him+Delly is better right now.

tredigs
05-20-2015, 11:17 PM
Some of you honestly think James is gonna sit there and let the Warriors just run over them. EVERY game has their pros and cons. Let's see what happens when it happens.. Cause if the Cavs do somehow win, we all know you're all going to say "WOW STACKED GOOD JOB REFS!!!!! OMGZ!!!!"

The Cavs were the preseason favorites to win the Finals, and have never once not been the favorites to come out of the East (personally I had the Hawks, but Vegas didn't).

What James wants doesn't really matter. Their team is heavily outmatched. It's not going to be close.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:20 PM
The Cavs beat the Warriors by double digits the last time they played and the big 3 scored over 80 points. So yes a healthy Cleveland team is very capable. The Warriors are just fortunate they are pretty much the only team the injury bug has not bitten this post season.

ManRam
05-20-2015, 11:21 PM
To all the people trashing Cleveland, this team is playing with Kyrie at 25% and Love out. That's 2 out of the big 3 and two of the top 20 NBA players. Just them beating Chicago and winning is impressive to me.

The East is weak. But I think if you told 1,000,000 people before the season started that LeBron would get to the Finals without Love and with Kyrie sitting on the bench late in games, all 1,000,000 people would laugh at you. There's some needed perspective here. With what he's working with, even against the East, it's a feat. But it is still the East. But still, look at who he's winning games with.

JR was a malcontent non-"winner" on a dysfunctional team who basically became a punch line
Shump is a career 10 PER player and 7.7 point scorer coming from dysfunctional team
Mozgov was mostly noted for getting dunked on
Delly is Delly...a 2nd round nobody
Tristan is the only high draft pick potential non-role player of the bunch


Those 5 guys? Those are who LeBron is closing out playoff games with two series in a row. It's pretty weird.


And because of that: 1) it's super impressive if they win these two series vs. Chicago and Atlanta, two solid teams and 2) why they'll get crushed in the Finals by vastly deeper/healthier/superior teams

bucketss
05-20-2015, 11:21 PM
Warriors are gonna run a train through either of these teams. Now I'm kind of glad the Bulls lost cuz we would've got swept in the Finals if we managed to get there.

you're probably right but than again i thought the same thing back in 2012, looking at how hard miami was struggling with boston.

ChI_ShIzzLe
05-20-2015, 11:21 PM
To all the people trashing Cleveland, this team is playing with Kyrie at 25% and Love out. That's 2 out of the big 3 and two of the top 20 NBA players. Just them beating Chicago and winning is impressive to me.

The Bulls ****ed themselves more so than the Cavs beat them. Warriors aren't gonna have 8 minute scoring droughts.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:22 PM
The East is weak. But I think if you told 1,000,000 people before the season started that LeBron would get to the Finals without Love and with Kyrie sitting on the bench late in games, all 1,000,000 people would laugh at you. There's some needed perspective here. With what he's working with, even against the East, it's a feat. But it is still the East. But still, look at who he's winning games with.

JR was a malcontent non-"winner" on a dysfunctional team who basically became a punch line
Shump is a career 10 PER player and 7.7 point scorer coming from dysfunctional team
Mozgov was mostly noted for getting dunked on
Delly is Delly...a 2nd round nobody
Tristan is the only high draft pick potential non-role player of the bunch


Those 5 guys? Those are who LeBron is closing out playoff games with two series in a row. It's pretty weird.

good post

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 11:23 PM
The Cavs were the preseason favorites to win the Finals, and have never once not been the favorites to come out of the East (personally I had the Hawks, but Vegas didn't).

What James wants doesn't really matter. Their team is heavily outmatched. It's not going to be close.

You (and others) are spraying everywhere and quickly turning this thread into a West/East pissing contest. So yes, just stop.

Jarvo
05-20-2015, 11:23 PM
I agree but in this case how can you complain? The 4 remaining teams have the 4 best records in the season.

Best records but not to sound like an Ahole but I just don't believe in ATL and almost every knew they would be exposed. I wanted it to be Cavs Vs Wiz but hey

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:24 PM
The Bulls ****ed themselves more so than the Cavs beat them. Warriors aren't gonna have 8 minute scoring droughts.

The Cavs have some players that can give the Warriors trouble. Shumpert is the perfect defender on Curry, and TT could give draymond fits rebounding in the post.

If Irving can get healthy for the finals, Cleveland has a shot. And healthy as in becoming one of the top slashers in the league that he can be

Minimal
05-20-2015, 11:24 PM
Some of you are overrating Warriors too much... Cavs have one of the best perimeter defenses in the league, thats pretty much what you need to stop Warriors.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 11:25 PM
Man how quickly people scream about how the Hawks are done/finished after 1 game, but were saying the Hawks would be in the finals before it. Wow.

JordansBulls
05-20-2015, 11:27 PM
To all the people trashing Cleveland, this team is playing with Kyrie at 25% and Love out. That's 2 out of the big 3 and two of the top 20 NBA players. Just them beating Chicago and winning is impressive to me.

If Gasol wasn't a wuss and played games 4 and 5 Chicago would have won in 5. Too bad he was a wuss though.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:28 PM
The Cavs were the preseason favorites to win the Finals, and have never once not been the favorites to come out of the East (personally I had the Hawks, but Vegas didn't).

What James wants doesn't really matter. Their team is heavily outmatched. It's not going to be close.

Preseason favorites, you mean before Love was injured and Irving wasn't hobbled? C'mon, stop it. Vee-Rex is right. This isn't a East vs West pissing match. Go create a thread and discuss it there. There are people who want to talk about the game between these two teams without getting into the nonsense. It's not hard to understand that so please stop being arrogant.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:29 PM
Some of you are overrating Warriors too much... Cavs have one of the best perimeter defenses in the league, thats pretty much what you need to stop Warriors.

EXACTLY. People fail to see good perimeter defense can stop GS, they aren't a post team. Shumpert is a top defender, JR Smith when he wants can be a good defender, and when LeBron tries he can shut anyone down.

TT down low is also a tough match-up for Green.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:29 PM
Man how quickly people scream about how the Hawks are done/finished after 1 game, but were saying the Hawks would be in the finals before it. Wow.

Yeah, I just took a look at the Cavs vs Chicago thread, more people had Hawks than Cavs. Now, when the Cavs are up 1-0, the Hawks are suddenly an 8th seed. It's a fricking joke man. People just love to hate.

ChI_ShIzzLe
05-20-2015, 11:29 PM
you're probably right but than again i thought the same thing back in 2012, looking at how hard miami was struggling with boston.

Boston was a true championship caliber team that had won with that group. Heat won because they had the best duo in the league and they were all relatively healthy. The Bulls were not what we thought they would be mainly due to Noah not being himself and Gasol getting hit with an untimely injury. The Hawks don't have anyone on that team that scares you. When Lebron goes up against Curry and the gang he won't have Wade and Bosh to watch his back.

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 11:29 PM
Best records but not to sound like an Ahole but I just don't believe in ATL and almost every knew they would be exposed. I wanted it to be Cavs Vs Wiz but hey

lolol nooo. I was one of the FEW people who think they would be exposed.

Now people think they're auto-done over one game? The posters on this site are a joke. DeMarre Carroll CLEARLY couldn't guard LeBron so that in and of itself isn't the reason the Hawks won't win the series.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:30 PM
If Gasol wasn't a wuss and played games 4 and 5 Chicago would have won in 5. Too bad he was a wuss though.

Lol and if Love played and Irving doesn't get hurt its either a sweep or Cleveland wins in 5.

ewing
05-20-2015, 11:30 PM
The Hawks are going to need to make some major defensive adjustments. They let LeBron get a small on him and get to the post over and over again and then had Milsap guarding LeBron at 1/2 court. Which actually wasn't as horrible as it could have been. You have adjust to your comp on some level. I get that they switch near everything, but you are in a playoff series now you need to tailor your game plan. Before i saw milsap on Bron and when he was tearing them up in the paint i thought maybe you put Harford on him and totally dare him to shoot from 20 feet out, then Carroll goes down and Milsap picks him up full court LOL. I actually thought Blazemore (thats what i call him) did the best job of anyone on Bron, although he looks a little small on him. Anyway a disappointing performance form the Hawk if you ask me just b/c some of the things they did just seemed stupid.

Nikeman
05-20-2015, 11:31 PM
With a 1-0 lead, if I am the Cavs, I rest Irving at this point. This Cavs team can compete against ATL without Irving, but they need him for GS.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:31 PM
Boston was a true championship caliber team that had won with that group. Heat won because they had the best duo in the league and they were all relatively healthy. The Bulls were not what we thought they would be mainly due to Noah not being himself and Gasol getting hit with an untimely injury. The Hawks don't have anyone on that team that scares you. When Lebron goes up against Curry and the gang he won't have Wade and Bosh to watch his back.

Lmfao, just stop. James saved the Heat's season against the Celtics. Arguably the best game in a playoff elimination game. Speaking of Wade and Bosh... funny how James leaves and they are off at home watching the NBA Playoffs... in which they were a huge part of when James was there. HUH!

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 11:31 PM
Shout out to the New York Pig Department for taking out the Hawks next best perimeter defender BTW....

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:33 PM
Shout out to the New York Pig Department for taking out the Hawks next best perimeter defender BTW....

You mean the one who couldn't stop James in OKC anyways? Sefalosha is too small for James. I'd argue that KD defended him better. I watched Sefa get backed down 99% of the time and he's way too slow for him as well.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:33 PM
Huge issues for Cavs:

Kyrie Irving
James has to clean up that 3PT shot.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 11:34 PM
Boston was a true championship caliber team that had won with that group. Heat won because they had the best duo in the league and they were all relatively healthy. The Bulls were not what we thought they would be mainly due to Noah not being himself and Gasol getting hit with an untimely injury. The Hawks don't have anyone on that team that scares you. When Lebron goes up against Curry and the gang he won't have Wade and Bosh to watch his back.

Lmfao, just stop. James saved the Heat's season against the Celtics. Arguably the best game in a playoff elimination game. Speaking of Wade and Bosh... funny how James leaves and they are off at home watching the NBA Playoffs... in which they were a huge part of when James was there. HUH!

Well technically Bosh has been home or in a hospital bed with a blood clot in his lung since the all-star break but don't let facts get in the way of your fabricated narrative....

bucketss
05-20-2015, 11:34 PM
If Gasol wasn't a wuss and played games 4 and 5 Chicago would have won in 5. Too bad he was a wuss though.

well he couldn't run, how is he gonna play?

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 11:36 PM
Shout out to the New York Pig Department for taking out the Hawks next best perimeter defender BTW....

You mean the one who couldn't stop James in OKC anyways? Sefalosha is too small for James. I'd argue that KD defended him better. I watched Sefa get backed down 99% of the time and he's way too slow for him as well.

Nobody can stop a great player bro. I find it kindof odd I have to tell you this twice......

ChI_ShIzzLe
05-20-2015, 11:36 PM
Lmfao, just stop. James saved the Heat's season against the Celtics. Arguably the best game in a playoff elimination game. Speaking of Wade and Bosh... funny how James leaves and they are off at home watching the NBA Playoffs... in which they were a huge part of when James was there. HUH!

We all know if Bosh was there the Heat likely make the playoffs. Obviously if Lebron can make these nobodies look like world beaters, then Wade and Bosh would play like the superstars they are more so than now. Unfortunately these nobodies aren't Wade and Bosh and they may not be enough to beat the Warriors.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 11:37 PM
Well technically Bosh has been home or in a hospital bed with a blood clot in his lung since the all-star break but don't let facts get in the way of your fabricated narrative....

now lets look at miamis record before bosh went down.what were they? like seven games below .500?

ewing
05-20-2015, 11:39 PM
The East is weak. But I think if you told 1,000,000 people before the season started that LeBron would get to the Finals without Love and with Kyrie sitting on the bench late in games, all 1,000,000 people would laugh at you. There's some needed perspective here. With what he's working with, even against the East, it's a feat. But it is still the East. But still, look at who he's winning games with.

JR was a malcontent non-"winner" on a dysfunctional team who basically became a punch line
Shump is a career 10 PER player and 7.7 point scorer coming from dysfunctional team
Mozgov was mostly noted for getting dunked on
Delly is Delly...a 2nd round nobody
Tristan is the only high draft pick potential non-role player of the bunch


Those 5 guys? Those are who LeBron is closing out playoff games with two series in a row. It's pretty weird.


And because of that: 1) it's super impressive if they win these two series vs. Chicago and Atlanta, two solid teams and 2) why they'll get crushed in the Finals by vastly deeper/healthier/superior teams


holy crap get out your violin. Jr Smith doesn't have the potential to be more then a role player? Are you mental?

ManRam
05-20-2015, 11:39 PM
now lets look at miamis record before bosh went down.what were they? like seven games below .500?

They were 8 games under .500. The last game he played was a drubbing by the Cavs. ;)

Vee-Rex
05-20-2015, 11:39 PM
I'd definitely like to talk about the game. What the Cavs need to do, and what the Hawks need to do as well. Sucks there aren't many Hawks fans on these forums.

Kyle Korver IMO isn't contributing enough offensively to compensate for his terrible defense and rebounding. He has to find a way to get free of the screens more often. Today we mostly had Shumpert on him so if we keep it that way we'll most likely limit him.

Horford/Milsap are getting outrebounded probably every game of the series. They can't get bigger... I'm not sure what they can do about this.

JR Smith won't have another game like this, but maybe Delly will get hot next game. Maybe Shumpert will start raining. Maybe James Jones. Hawks don't have anyone to guard LBJ so their defense is forced to collapse and we have open shooters on the perimeter. We missed some wide open shots tonight that we might make next game, so it'll most likely make up for JR's production.

Atlanta has no go-to man... it's killing them at the end of every possession that does not end with an easy bucket under the basket. Drive in with Teague, he kicks it out to Korver, he's defended well, they move the ball around and are defended well, shot clock is at 5 seconds... who's gonna score?

I think Atlanta may have more success if they can find a way to get Horford going in the post. Tristan defended him well this game though... not sure what more ATL can do.

I still say Cavs in 5. When you don't have anyone to guard LBJ is causes lots and lots of problems. It's a dominoe effect.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:41 PM
Well technically Bosh has been home or in a hospital bed with a blood clot in his lung since the all-star break but don't let facts get in the way of your fabricated narrative....

And they replaced him with Dragic and even with Whiteside's newfound dominance, they still couldn't make the playoffs.. when a team that many thought were tanking and had just traded their best player (Celtics) made it. Stop it. Even with Bosh, they were below .500 and still just in the 7-8th seed.


We all know if Bosh was there the Heat likely make the playoffs. Obviously if Lebron can make these nobodies look like world beaters, then Wade and Bosh would play like the superstars they are more so than now. Unfortunately these nobodies aren't Wade and Bosh and they may not be enough to beat the Warriors.

And they replaced him with Dragic and even with Whiteside's newfound dominance, they still couldn't make the playoffs.. when a team that many thought were tanking and had just traded their best player (Celtics) made it. Stop it. Even with Bosh, they were below .500 and still just in the 7-8th seed. Norris Cole was shipped out but he fit so well with the Heat when James was there. Chalmers became a bench player. Wade couldn't carry a team like many insisted he could. Dragic was there but he's no James. Bosh was there but he isn't any better than last season. Whiteside became a top 5 center in the 2nd half of the season and they still can't make the playoffs. How many more excuses do you guys really need? When a team that many believes were tanking and also, traded their best player (which would lead many to stamp that they are tanking), makes the playoffs, there are no excuses to be made.



Nobody can stop a great player bro. I find it kindof odd I have to tell you this twice......

Yeah, and that's the thing.. Sefalosha couldn't stop him in any measure. It wasn't like he made things tough on James at all. Watch the games and you'll see. Stop going by what everyone says and acting as if Sefalosha could even contain James. He's way too small.

ManRam
05-20-2015, 11:42 PM
holy crap get out your violin. Jr Smith doesn't have the potential to be more then a role player? Are you mental?

Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:42 PM
now lets look at miamis record before bosh went down.what were they? like seven games below .500?

That's how you know they are clueless. It's excuses after excuses and when you debunk them, they just troll another thread.

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:43 PM
holy crap get out your violin. Jr Smith doesn't have the potential to be more then a role player? Are you mental?

Check the Cavs trading Waiters thread. J.R. was getting wrecked on and they said he was toxic. Comes to the Cavs and he's a sixthman again? Wonder why.

ewing
05-20-2015, 11:48 PM
Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

not even slightly.

Tony_Starks
05-20-2015, 11:49 PM
Well technically Bosh has been home or in a hospital bed with a blood clot in his lung since the all-star break but don't let facts get in the way of your fabricated narrative....

now lets look at miamis record before bosh went down.what were they? like seven games below .500?

OR how about we look at their record when Bosh and Wade actually played together since they were both taking turns missing games when Bosh went down.....

If you're going to tell the story tell the entire story. You can't just say he left and they missed the playoffs like we don't know the Heat had a injury riddled season with multiples guys in and out and 2 done for the season early....

ewing
05-20-2015, 11:52 PM
Check the Cavs trading Waiters thread. J.R. was getting wrecked on and they said he was toxic. Comes to the Cavs and he's a sixthman again? Wonder why.


check the thread I started after the trade where i asked if the Cavs title hopes where pinned to JR and his sobriety. When James Jones or Boobie Gibson hits 8 threes its b/c of Bron. When JR does it largely while Bron is resting it's b/c JR has game.

bucketss
05-20-2015, 11:54 PM
OR how about we look at their record when Bosh and Wade actually played together since they were both taking turns missing games when Bosh went down.....

wade has been missing and playing through injury almost his whole tenure with bron, nothing new. thats why i stopped calling that team stacked some time during the 2012 playoffs

FlashBolt
05-20-2015, 11:56 PM
OR how about we look at their record when Bosh and Wade actually played together since they were both taking turns missing games when Bosh went down.....

wade sat more games last season than this... didn't see you making any excuses last season.

ewing
05-20-2015, 11:57 PM
what abut Moz? He only noted for getting dunk on. He has always been his guy and Shump is a was a quality 3 and D when the knicks were decent too. he was huge when the Knick were a 50 win team. Of course the Cavs suck without Bron but is really necessarily to trash anyone he plays with?

ManRam
05-20-2015, 11:59 PM
not even slightly.

JR at times has been a great 6th man. In 2013 he was an exceptional 6th man. Never has he ever been considered anything more than a role player...often a good one, sometimes a detrimental one. Dude had to go to China for a year. Players that are more than role players don't go to China for a year. Look at the contracts he's signed. Role player contracts. He was traded for scraps just this season. No one thought he was worth anything.

You're being delusional if you think JR is anything more than a streaky role player. I've loved how he's fit in in Cleveland, but still, that's as the team's 6th or so best player...not anything more.

Just read any article about JR right before or after he was traded this year.

On any given night he can light things up. Those nights come very inconsistently lately.