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Lionel20
04-16-2015, 09:30 PM
With the reg season coming to a close, I thought post the data I compiled from 2014-15. I'm not going to take the time to explain my own formula, I've done that in other threads.

I've converted each "player value" into a more accurate version of win contributions.



Rank Name Wins
1 Stephen Curry 16.00
2 James Harden 15.54
3 Chris Paul 14.86
4 Anthony Davis 14.16
5 DeAndre Jordan 12.81
6 Russell Westbrook 12.27
7 LeBron James 11.90
8 Pau Gasol 11.81
9 Damian Lillard 11.58
10 John Wall 10.81
11 LaMarcus Aldridge 10.75
12 Kyrie Irving 10.68
13 Klay Thompson 10.67
14 Marc Gasol 10.64
15 Andre Drummond 10.60
16 Jimmy Butler 10.24
17 Tim Duncan 9.99
18 Al Horford 9.98
19 Nikola Vucevic 9.90
20 Paul Millsap 9.78
21 Blake Griffin 9.77
22 Kevin Love 9.58
23 Eric Bledsoe 9.53
24 Gordon Hayward 9.43
25 Tyson Chandler 9.40
26 Draymond Green 9.28
27 Kawhi Leonard 9.26
28 Ty Lawson 9.11
29 Rudy Gobert 9.08
30 Marcin Gortat 8.98
31 DeMarcus Cousins 8.94
32 Jeff Teague 8.71
33 Derrick Favors 8.71
34 Greg Monroe 8.55
35 Zach Randolph 8.51
36 Trevor Ariza 8.48
37 Kyle Lowry 8.36
38 Rudy Gay 8.22
39 Tyreke Evans 8.20
40 Danny Green 8.17
41 Brook Lopez 8.11
42 Dirk Nowitzki 8.06
43 Goran Dragic 8.01
44 Jonas Valanciunas 7.79
45 Kyle Korver 7.71
46 Enes Kanter 7.70
47 Khris Middleton 7.57
48 Mike Conley 7.52
49 Monta Ellis 7.51
50 DeMarre Carroll 7.35
51 J.J. Redick 7.34
52 Markieff Morris 7.27
53 Kenneth Faried 7.25
54 Joe Johnson 7.22
55 Tobias Harris 7.21
56 Al Jefferson 7.21
57 Gorgui Dieng 7.14
58 Nerlens Noel 7.13
59 Giannis Antetokounmpo 7.02
60 Louis Williams 6.99
61 Ed Davis 6.95
62 Victor Oladipo 6.95
63 Thaddeus Young 6.93
64 Chandler Parsons 6.87
65 Harrison Barnes 6.87
66 Luol Deng 6.82
67 Kemba Walker 6.79
68 Reggie Jackson 6.77
69 Nicolas Batum 6.68
70 Brandon Knight 6.61
71 Serge Ibaka 6.57
72 Tristan Thompson 6.55
73 Wesley Matthews 6.49
74 Dwyane Wade 6.47
75 Andrew Wiggins 6.44
76 Jeff Green 6.44
77 Patrick Patterson 6.42
78 P.J. Tucker 6.36
79 Elfrid Payton 6.35
80 Josh Smith 6.34
81 Joakim Noah 6.29
82 Isaiah Thomas 6.19
83 Wilson Chandler 6.15
84 Timofey Mozgov 6.14
85 Omer Asik 6.08
86 Tyler Zeller 6.03
87 Brandon Bass 5.91
88 Andre Iguodala 5.70
89 DeMar DeRozan 5.70
90 Deron Williams 5.69
91 Robert Covington 5.69
92 Brandan Wright 5.67
93 Evan Turner 5.63
94 Mason Plumlee 5.61
95 Paul Pierce 5.58
96 Donatas Motiejunas 5.58
97 Nikola Mirotic 5.55
98 Bradley Beal 5.55
99 David West 5.54
100 Jared Sullinger 5.46
101 Hassan Whiteside 5.44
102 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 5.42
103 J.R. Smith 5.41
104 Amir Johnson 5.41
105 Marcus Morris 5.40
106 Corey Brewer 5.39
107 Jarrett Jack 5.35
108 Chris Bosh 5.34
109 Zaza Pachulia 5.32
110 Gerald Henderson 5.31
111 Michael Carter-Williams 5.30
112 Andrew Bogut 5.29
113 Avery Bradley 5.28
114 Rajon Rondo 5.26
115 Tony Parker 5.26
116 Jordan Hill 5.24
117 Anthony Morrow 5.23
118 Courtney Lee 5.17
119 Carmelo Anthony 5.17
120 Roy Hibbert 5.15
121 Marvin Williams 5.10
122 Matt Barnes 5.08
123 Rodney Stuckey 5.05
124 Luis Scola 5.04
125 Mo Williams 5.02
126 George Hill 5.00
127 Jamal Crawford 4.97
128 Darren Collison 4.91
129 Robin Lopez 4.90
130 Trey Burke 4.88
131 C.J. Miles 4.87
132 Taj Gibson 4.86
133 Jeremy Lin 4.85
134 Ben McLemore 4.84
135 Boris Diaw 4.79
136 D.J. Augustin 4.75
137 Manu Ginobili 4.72
138 Ryan Anderson 4.71
139 Kevin Durant 4.71
140 Carlos Boozer 4.68
141 Devin Harris 4.64
142 Tony Allen 4.63
143 Steven Adams 4.62
144 Solomon Hill 4.59
145 Arron Afflalo 4.59
146 Mario Chalmers 4.58
147 Jae Crowder 4.57
148 Danilo Gallinari 4.56
149 Wesley Johnson 4.51
150 Aaron Brooks 4.45
151 Eric Gordon 4.44
152 Greivis Vasquez 4.42
153 Jared Dudley 4.41
154 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 4.39
155 Chris Kaman 4.36
156 Terrence Ross 4.33
157 Dwight Howard 4.32
158 Trevor Booker 4.31
159 Mike Dunleavy 4.27
160 Jrue Holiday 4.27
161 James Johnson 4.25
162 Nene Hilario 4.23
163 Ersan Ilyasova 4.19
164 Kelly Olynyk 4.19
165 Jordan Clarkson 4.18
166 Amar'e Stoudemire 4.18
167 Cory Joseph 4.14
168 Marcus Smart 4.11
169 Brandon Jennings 4.10
170 Luc Mbah a Moute 4.07
171 C.J. Watson 4.05
172 Dennis Schroder 4.04
173 Marreese Speights 4.04
174 O.J. Mayo 4.04
175 Beno Udrih 4.01
176 Kris Humphries 3.98
177 Patrick Beverley 3.95
178 Jason Terry 3.93
179 John Henson 3.93
180 Al-Farouq Aminu 3.91
181 Dion Waiters 3.90
182 Hollis Thompson 3.85
183 Bojan Bogdanovic 3.85
184 Derrick Rose 3.85
185 Cody Zeller 3.79
186 Alex Len 3.74
187 Gerald Green 3.72
188 Jason Thompson 3.72
189 J.J. Hickson 3.70
190 Shane Larkin 3.69
191 Jodie Meeks 3.64
192 Shaun Livingston 3.63
193 Henry Sims 3.62
194 Jonas Jerebko 3.60
195 Kevin Martin 3.59
196 Jose Barea 3.58
197 Tiago Splitter 3.57
198 Omri Casspi 3.57
199 Kosta Koufos 3.55
200 Wayne Ellington 3.55
201 Bismack Biyombo 3.54
202 Channing Frye 3.53
203 Evan Fournier 3.49
204 Alan Anderson 3.40
205 Norris Cole 3.39
206 Chris Andersen 3.38
207 Rasual Butler 3.35
208 Jerryd Bayless 3.33
209 Iman Shumpert 3.33
210 Derrick Williams 3.32
211 Mike Scott 3.30
212 Marco Belinelli 3.29
213 Kobe Bryant 3.28
214 Jason Smith 3.24
215 Otto Porter 3.24
216 Tayshaun Prince 3.22
217 Tarik Black 3.21
218 David Lee 3.20
219 Cole Aldrich 3.19
220 Tim Hardaway 3.19
221 Quincy Pondexter 3.17
222 Ray McCallum 3.16
223 Zach LaVine 3.16
224 Alexis Ajinca 3.16
225 Miles Plumlee 3.15
226 Joe Ingles 3.12
227 Langston Galloway 3.12
228 Aron Baynes 3.12
229 Jameer Nelson 3.07
230 Anthony Tolliver 3.06
231 Terrence Jones 3.05
232 Pablo Prigioni 3.01
233 Lavoy Allen 3.01
234 Shabazz Muhammad 2.98
235 Chase Budinger 2.98
236 Caron Butler 2.94
237 Andre Miller 2.93
238 Carl Landry 2.92
239 Leandro Barbosa 2.87
240 Kyle Singler 2.84
241 Thabo Sefolosha 2.83
242 Tony Snell 2.82
243 Steve Blake 2.82
244 Dante Cunningham 2.79
245 Brian Roberts 2.78
246 Jusuf Nurkic 2.76
247 Kevin Garnett 2.72
248 Donald Sloan 2.70
249 Austin Rivers 2.65
250 Quincy Acy 2.64
251 Alexey Shved 2.64
252 Richard Jefferson 2.62
253 Jose Calderon 2.58
254 Tyler Hansbrough 2.54
255 Kent Bazemore 2.52
256 K.J. McDaniels 2.42
257 Will Barton 2.41
258 Meyers Leonard 2.40
259 Andre Roberson 2.39
260 Nikola Pekovic 2.34
261 Shawn Marion 2.32
262 Ian Mahinmi 2.30
263 Kevin Seraphin 2.30
264 Charlie Villanueva 2.27
265 C.J. McCollum 2.26
266 Thomas Robinson 2.25
267 Nick Collison 2.25
268 Nick Young 2.24
269 Lance Stephenson 2.18
270 Spencer Hawes 2.17
271 Ramon Sessions 2.17
272 Isaiah Canaan 2.16
273 Shelvin Mack 2.15
274 Randy Foye 2.15
275 Rodney Hood 2.13
276 James Ennis 2.13
277 Kyle O'Quinn 2.09
278 Robert Sacre 2.07
279 Matthew Dellavedova 2.07
280 Marcus Thornton 2.06
281 Tony Wroten 2.04
282 Shawne Williams 2.02
283 Jerami Grant 2.01
284 Anderson Varejao 2.01
285 Gary Neal 1.99
286 Andrea Bargnani 1.98
287 Drew Gooden 1.97
288 Dewayne Dedmon 1.96
289 Jabari Parker 1.96
290 Patrick Mills 1.95
291 Kirk Hinrich 1.95
292 Ricky Rubio 1.90
293 Justin Hamilton 1.88
294 Vince Carter 1.87
295 Matt Bonner 1.86
296 Darrell Arthur 1.84
297 Udonis Haslem 1.84
298 Joey Dorsey 1.83
299 Lance Thomas 1.82
300 Alec Burks 1.81
301 Luke Babbitt 1.80
302 Louis Amundson 1.80
303 Nick Calathes 1.79
304 Ronnie Price 1.78
305 Anthony Bennett 1.78
306 Ryan Kelly 1.77
307 Reggie Evans 1.76
308 Mirza Teletovic 1.73
309 Pero Antic 1.73
310 Dante Exum 1.73
311 Jeremy Lamb 1.72
312 Mike Muscala 1.71
313 JaKarr Sampson 1.71
314 Ish Smith 1.70
315 Jon Leuer 1.68
316 Shabazz Napier 1.67
317 Glen Davis 1.61
318 Jason Maxiell 1.61
319 Justin Holiday 1.58
320 Aaron Gordon 1.57
321 Garrett Temple 1.56
322 Damjan Rudez 1.55
323 Larry Sanders 1.54
324 Alonzo Gee 1.54
325 Dorell Wright 1.53
326 Hedo Turkoglu 1.52
327 T.J. Warren 1.46
328 Festus Ezeli 1.44
329 Nik Stauskas 1.37
330 James Jones 1.36
331 Joel Freeland 1.32
332 Phil Pressey 1.31
333 Tyler Johnson 1.30
334 Kendrick Perkins 1.28
335 Robbie Hummel 1.28
336 Markel Brown 1.25
337 Furkan Aldemir 1.25
338 Ben Gordon 1.20
339 Kostas Papanikolaou 1.20
340 Willie Green 1.18
341 Cory Jefferson 1.17
342 Elijah Millsap 1.16
343 Luke Ridnour 1.14
344 Lorenzo Brown 1.11
345 Allen Crabbe 1.10
346 Samuel Dalembert 1.09
347 P.J. Hairston 1.07
348 Sergey Karasev 1.04
349 Chris Johnson 1.01
350 Maurice Harkless 1.01
351 Jabari Brown 0.96
352 Jordan Farmar 0.96
353 Nate Robinson 0.92
354 E'Twaun Moore 0.91
355 Henry Walker 0.91
356 Chris Copeland 0.91
357 Travis Wear 0.90
358 Danny Granger 0.86
359 Cleanthony Early 0.85
360 Adreian Payne 0.84
361 Elton Brand 0.84
362 Archie Goodwin 0.82
363 Andrew Nicholson 0.74
364 Jimmer Fredette 0.69
365 Michael Beasley 0.68
366 Perry Jones 0.68
367 Mike Miller 0.65
368 Gary Harris 0.51
369 Joe Harris 0.41

flea
04-16-2015, 09:34 PM
Interesting, but when Vucevic and Drummond are higher than Horford, Duncan, both D. Greens, and Chandler then you know something is amiss at the top. But hey, at least it's not Colin Kaepernick. Looks like many box-score based NBA metric lists.

Lionel20
04-16-2015, 09:39 PM
Interesting, but when Vucevic and Drummond are higher than Horford, Duncan, both D. Greens, and Chandler then you know something is amiss at the top. But hey, at least it's not Colin Kaepernick. Looks like many box-score based NBA metric lists.

Drummond played about 200 more minutes than Horford, and about 275 more than Duncan. If they played equal minutes I'd expect Horford and Duncan to be a bit higher.

Also Drummond finished the season with over two and one half more Oreb than Duncan, and almost three and one half more than Horford. That's insane. Oreb weigh much more in my formula than Dreb.

KnicksorBust
04-16-2015, 09:41 PM
With the reg season coming to a close, I thought post the data I compiled from 2014-15. I'm not going to take the time to explain my own formula, I've done that in other threads.

I've converted each "player value" into a more accurate version of win contributions.



Rank Name Wins
1 Stephen Curry 16.00
2 James Harden 15.54
3 Chris Paul 14.86
4 Anthony Davis 14.16
5 DeAndre Jordan 12.81
6 Russell Westbrook 12.27
7 LeBron James 11.90
8 Pau Gasol 11.81
9 Damian Lillard 11.58
10 John Wall 10.81
11 LaMarcus Aldridge 10.75
12 Kyrie Irving 10.68
13 Klay Thompson 10.67
14 Marc Gasol 10.64
15 Andre Drummond 10.60
16 Jimmy Butler 10.24
17 Tim Duncan 9.99
18 Al Horford 9.98
19 Nikola Vucevic 9.90
20 Paul Millsap 9.78
21 Blake Griffin 9.77
22 Kevin Love 9.58
23 Eric Bledsoe 9.53
24 Gordon Hayward 9.43
25 Tyson Chandler 9.40
26 Draymond Green 9.28
27 Kawhi Leonard 9.26
28 Ty Lawson 9.11
29 Rudy Gobert 9.08
30 Marcin Gortat 8.98
31 DeMarcus Cousins 8.94
32 Jeff Teague 8.71
33 Derrick Favors 8.71
34 Greg Monroe 8.55
35 Zach Randolph 8.51
36 Trevor Ariza 8.48
37 Kyle Lowry 8.36
38 Rudy Gay 8.22
39 Tyreke Evans 8.20
40 Danny Green 8.17
41 Brook Lopez 8.11
42 Dirk Nowitzki 8.06
43 Goran Dragic 8.01
44 Jonas Valanciunas 7.79
45 Kyle Korver 7.71
46 Enes Kanter 7.70
47 Khris Middleton 7.57
48 Mike Conley 7.52
49 Monta Ellis 7.51
50 DeMarre Carroll 7.35
51 J.J. Redick 7.34
52 Markieff Morris 7.27
53 Kenneth Faried 7.25
54 Joe Johnson 7.22
55 Tobias Harris 7.21
56 Al Jefferson 7.21
57 Gorgui Dieng 7.14
58 Nerlens Noel 7.13
59 Giannis Antetokounmpo 7.02
60 Louis Williams 6.99
61 Ed Davis 6.95
62 Victor Oladipo 6.95
63 Thaddeus Young 6.93
64 Chandler Parsons 6.87
65 Harrison Barnes 6.87
66 Luol Deng 6.82
67 Kemba Walker 6.79
68 Reggie Jackson 6.77
69 Nicolas Batum 6.68
70 Brandon Knight 6.61
71 Serge Ibaka 6.57
72 Tristan Thompson 6.55
73 Wesley Matthews 6.49
74 Dwyane Wade 6.47
75 Andrew Wiggins 6.44
76 Jeff Green 6.44
77 Patrick Patterson 6.42
78 P.J. Tucker 6.36
79 Elfrid Payton 6.35
80 Josh Smith 6.34
81 Joakim Noah 6.29
82 Isaiah Thomas 6.19
83 Wilson Chandler 6.15
84 Timofey Mozgov 6.14
85 Omer Asik 6.08
86 Tyler Zeller 6.03
87 Brandon Bass 5.91
88 Andre Iguodala 5.70
89 DeMar DeRozan 5.70
90 Deron Williams 5.69
91 Robert Covington 5.69
92 Brandan Wright 5.67
93 Evan Turner 5.63
94 Mason Plumlee 5.61
95 Paul Pierce 5.58
96 Donatas Motiejunas 5.58
97 Nikola Mirotic 5.55
98 Bradley Beal 5.55
99 David West 5.54
100 Jared Sullinger 5.46
101 Hassan Whiteside 5.44
102 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 5.42
103 J.R. Smith 5.41
104 Amir Johnson 5.41
105 Marcus Morris 5.40
106 Corey Brewer 5.39
107 Jarrett Jack 5.35
108 Chris Bosh 5.34
109 Zaza Pachulia 5.32
110 Gerald Henderson 5.31
111 Michael Carter-Williams 5.30
112 Andrew Bogut 5.29
113 Avery Bradley 5.28
114 Rajon Rondo 5.26
115 Tony Parker 5.26
116 Jordan Hill 5.24
117 Anthony Morrow 5.23
118 Courtney Lee 5.17
119 Carmelo Anthony 5.17
120 Roy Hibbert 5.15
121 Marvin Williams 5.10
122 Matt Barnes 5.08
123 Rodney Stuckey 5.05
124 Luis Scola 5.04
125 Mo Williams 5.02
126 George Hill 5.00
127 Jamal Crawford 4.97
128 Darren Collison 4.91
129 Robin Lopez 4.90
130 Trey Burke 4.88
131 C.J. Miles 4.87
132 Taj Gibson 4.86
133 Jeremy Lin 4.85
134 Ben McLemore 4.84
135 Boris Diaw 4.79
136 D.J. Augustin 4.75
137 Manu Ginobili 4.72
138 Ryan Anderson 4.71
139 Kevin Durant 4.71
140 Carlos Boozer 4.68
141 Devin Harris 4.64
142 Tony Allen 4.63
143 Steven Adams 4.62
144 Solomon Hill 4.59
145 Arron Afflalo 4.59
146 Mario Chalmers 4.58
147 Jae Crowder 4.57
148 Danilo Gallinari 4.56
149 Wesley Johnson 4.51
150 Aaron Brooks 4.45
151 Eric Gordon 4.44
152 Greivis Vasquez 4.42
153 Jared Dudley 4.41
154 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 4.39
155 Chris Kaman 4.36
156 Terrence Ross 4.33
157 Dwight Howard 4.32
158 Trevor Booker 4.31
159 Mike Dunleavy 4.27
160 Jrue Holiday 4.27
161 James Johnson 4.25
162 Nene Hilario 4.23
163 Ersan Ilyasova 4.19
164 Kelly Olynyk 4.19
165 Jordan Clarkson 4.18
166 Amar'e Stoudemire 4.18
167 Cory Joseph 4.14
168 Marcus Smart 4.11
169 Brandon Jennings 4.10
170 Luc Mbah a Moute 4.07
171 C.J. Watson 4.05
172 Dennis Schroder 4.04
173 Marreese Speights 4.04
174 O.J. Mayo 4.04
175 Beno Udrih 4.01
176 Kris Humphries 3.98
177 Patrick Beverley 3.95
178 Jason Terry 3.93
179 John Henson 3.93
180 Al-Farouq Aminu 3.91
181 Dion Waiters 3.90
182 Hollis Thompson 3.85
183 Bojan Bogdanovic 3.85
184 Derrick Rose 3.85
185 Cody Zeller 3.79
186 Alex Len 3.74
187 Gerald Green 3.72
188 Jason Thompson 3.72
189 J.J. Hickson 3.70
190 Shane Larkin 3.69
191 Jodie Meeks 3.64
192 Shaun Livingston 3.63
193 Henry Sims 3.62
194 Jonas Jerebko 3.60
195 Kevin Martin 3.59
196 Jose Barea 3.58
197 Tiago Splitter 3.57
198 Omri Casspi 3.57
199 Kosta Koufos 3.55
200 Wayne Ellington 3.55
201 Bismack Biyombo 3.54
202 Channing Frye 3.53
203 Evan Fournier 3.49
204 Alan Anderson 3.40
205 Norris Cole 3.39
206 Chris Andersen 3.38
207 Rasual Butler 3.35
208 Jerryd Bayless 3.33
209 Iman Shumpert 3.33
210 Derrick Williams 3.32
211 Mike Scott 3.30
212 Marco Belinelli 3.29
213 Kobe Bryant 3.28
214 Jason Smith 3.24
215 Otto Porter 3.24
216 Tayshaun Prince 3.22
217 Tarik Black 3.21
218 David Lee 3.20
219 Cole Aldrich 3.19
220 Tim Hardaway 3.19
221 Quincy Pondexter 3.17
222 Ray McCallum 3.16
223 Zach LaVine 3.16
224 Alexis Ajinca 3.16
225 Miles Plumlee 3.15
226 Joe Ingles 3.12
227 Langston Galloway 3.12
228 Aron Baynes 3.12
229 Jameer Nelson 3.07
230 Anthony Tolliver 3.06
231 Terrence Jones 3.05
232 Pablo Prigioni 3.01
233 Lavoy Allen 3.01
234 Shabazz Muhammad 2.98
235 Chase Budinger 2.98
236 Caron Butler 2.94
237 Andre Miller 2.93
238 Carl Landry 2.92
239 Leandro Barbosa 2.87
240 Kyle Singler 2.84
241 Thabo Sefolosha 2.83
242 Tony Snell 2.82
243 Steve Blake 2.82
244 Dante Cunningham 2.79
245 Brian Roberts 2.78
246 Jusuf Nurkic 2.76
247 Kevin Garnett 2.72
248 Donald Sloan 2.70
249 Austin Rivers 2.65
250 Quincy Acy 2.64
251 Alexey Shved 2.64
252 Richard Jefferson 2.62
253 Jose Calderon 2.58
254 Tyler Hansbrough 2.54
255 Kent Bazemore 2.52
256 K.J. McDaniels 2.42
257 Will Barton 2.41
258 Meyers Leonard 2.40
259 Andre Roberson 2.39
260 Nikola Pekovic 2.34
261 Shawn Marion 2.32
262 Ian Mahinmi 2.30
263 Kevin Seraphin 2.30
264 Charlie Villanueva 2.27
265 C.J. McCollum 2.26
266 Thomas Robinson 2.25
267 Nick Collison 2.25
268 Nick Young 2.24
269 Lance Stephenson 2.18
270 Spencer Hawes 2.17
271 Ramon Sessions 2.17
272 Isaiah Canaan 2.16
273 Shelvin Mack 2.15
274 Randy Foye 2.15
275 Rodney Hood 2.13
276 James Ennis 2.13
277 Kyle O'Quinn 2.09
278 Robert Sacre 2.07
279 Matthew Dellavedova 2.07
280 Marcus Thornton 2.06
281 Tony Wroten 2.04
282 Shawne Williams 2.02
283 Jerami Grant 2.01
284 Anderson Varejao 2.01
285 Gary Neal 1.99
286 Andrea Bargnani 1.98
287 Drew Gooden 1.97
288 Dewayne Dedmon 1.96
289 Jabari Parker 1.96
290 Patrick Mills 1.95
291 Kirk Hinrich 1.95
292 Ricky Rubio 1.90
293 Justin Hamilton 1.88
294 Vince Carter 1.87
295 Matt Bonner 1.86
296 Darrell Arthur 1.84
297 Udonis Haslem 1.84
298 Joey Dorsey 1.83
299 Lance Thomas 1.82
300 Alec Burks 1.81
301 Luke Babbitt 1.80
302 Louis Amundson 1.80
303 Nick Calathes 1.79
304 Ronnie Price 1.78
305 Anthony Bennett 1.78
306 Ryan Kelly 1.77
307 Reggie Evans 1.76
308 Mirza Teletovic 1.73
309 Pero Antic 1.73
310 Dante Exum 1.73
311 Jeremy Lamb 1.72
312 Mike Muscala 1.71
313 JaKarr Sampson 1.71
314 Ish Smith 1.70
315 Jon Leuer 1.68
316 Shabazz Napier 1.67
317 Glen Davis 1.61
318 Jason Maxiell 1.61
319 Justin Holiday 1.58
320 Aaron Gordon 1.57
321 Garrett Temple 1.56
322 Damjan Rudez 1.55
323 Larry Sanders 1.54
324 Alonzo Gee 1.54
325 Dorell Wright 1.53
326 Hedo Turkoglu 1.52
327 T.J. Warren 1.46
328 Festus Ezeli 1.44
329 Nik Stauskas 1.37
330 James Jones 1.36
331 Joel Freeland 1.32
332 Phil Pressey 1.31
333 Tyler Johnson 1.30
334 Kendrick Perkins 1.28
335 Robbie Hummel 1.28
336 Markel Brown 1.25
337 Furkan Aldemir 1.25
338 Ben Gordon 1.20
339 Kostas Papanikolaou 1.20
340 Willie Green 1.18
341 Cory Jefferson 1.17
342 Elijah Millsap 1.16
343 Luke Ridnour 1.14
344 Lorenzo Brown 1.11
345 Allen Crabbe 1.10
346 Samuel Dalembert 1.09
347 P.J. Hairston 1.07
348 Sergey Karasev 1.04
349 Chris Johnson 1.01
350 Maurice Harkless 1.01
351 Jabari Brown 0.96
352 Jordan Farmar 0.96
353 Nate Robinson 0.92
354 E'Twaun Moore 0.91
355 Henry Walker 0.91
356 Chris Copeland 0.91
357 Travis Wear 0.90
358 Danny Granger 0.86
359 Cleanthony Early 0.85
360 Adreian Payne 0.84
361 Elton Brand 0.84
362 Archie Goodwin 0.82
363 Andrew Nicholson 0.74
364 Jimmer Fredette 0.69
365 Michael Beasley 0.68
366 Perry Jones 0.68
367 Mike Miller 0.65
368 Gary Harris 0.51
369 Joe Harris 0.41


No clue of your formula but based on the list its pretty accurate.

FlashBolt
04-16-2015, 09:44 PM
"Top 350 NBA players based on WIN SHARES" should be the title.

Lionel20
04-16-2015, 09:46 PM
No clue of your formula but based on the list its pretty accurate.

It's based on Alternate Win Score, but I add in a lot of adjustments, especially on defensive side of the ball. Then I converted them values to wins.

Lionel20
04-16-2015, 09:49 PM
"Top 350 NBA players based on WIN SHARES" should be the title.

I wanted to make sure that I separated it from Oliver's work. I like the concept of converting values to wins, so I borrowed it. But my formula has a much higher correlation to overall wins, in other words its much more realistic. I can't take full credit, I used a lot of David Lewin's work.

Cal827
04-17-2015, 01:11 AM
Jonas Valanciunas is the first Raptor on this list.... yet Casey holds him accountable when the others **** up :laugh2:

Cracka2HI!
04-17-2015, 01:19 AM
I love me some DeAndre Jordan!

KnicksorBust
04-17-2015, 07:29 AM
It's based on Alternate Win Score, but I add in a lot of adjustments, especially on defensive side of the ball. Then I converted them values to wins.

Clearly. Defense has always been one of the hardest things to quantify. People always rag on DRtg and +/- but whatever you did seemed to work.

mightybosstone
04-17-2015, 08:51 AM
Drummond played about 200 more minutes than Horford, and about 275 more than Duncan. If they played equal minutes I'd expect Horford and Duncan to be a bit higher.

Also Drummond finished the season with over two and one half more Oreb than Duncan, and almost three and one half more than Horford. That's insane. Oreb weigh much more in my formula than Dreb.

If your formula doesn't account for the minutes played, why not add some kind of quantifier similar to WS/48 that accounts for that? If you did that and limited the list to only players who played a certain number of minutes in the season, you might end up with a slightly more accurate list.

But overall, I do agree this seems like a solid list and your formula must be doing something right.

Shammyguy3
04-18-2015, 10:48 PM
Kirk Hinrich shouldn't be on this list, other than that and minor disagreements looks solid

jerellh528
04-18-2015, 10:52 PM
I approve because I saw my boys Westbrook and lillard in top 10.

jerellh528
04-18-2015, 10:54 PM
One sore thumb I see is deandre Jordan though, I haven't watched a ton of clippers but is he playing that good this year?

MILLERHIGHLIFE
04-19-2015, 11:35 AM
Clearly. Defense has always been one of the hardest things to quantify. People always rag on DRtg and +/- but whatever you did seemed to work.

Didn't seem to work for the Bucks #2 defense.

aman_13
04-19-2015, 04:46 PM
Jonas Valanciunas is the first Raptor on this list.... yet Casey holds him accountable when the others **** up :laugh2:

No Lowry is.