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goingfor28
04-09-2015, 05:33 PM
Thabo Sefolosha | ATL

(April 9, 2015 4:16 PM EDT)

Thabo Sefolosha has reportedly been diagnosed with a fractured tibia in his leg, and he will miss the rest of the 2014-15 season.

Sefolosha suffered the injury during his arrest in New York early Wednesday morning following the stabbing of Chris Copeland and another woman, and he is currently facing charges of resisting arrest, obstructing governmental administration, and disorderly conduct. Sefolosha was averaging 18.8 minutes per game for the Hawks, and this is a tough blow for Atlanta as they are losing their defensive specialist off the bench.

-rotoworld

Tough blow to lose a great wing defender riggt before the playoffs

Tony_Starks
04-09-2015, 05:37 PM
NWA said it best......

thomass
04-09-2015, 05:45 PM
Unbelievable. As Hawks fan, this is devastating news. He is one of the best defenders in the league !

Cal827
04-09-2015, 05:48 PM
Goddamn, just when it it was going great for Atlanta. Especially seeing that in the 1-4 semi-final, they're pretty much guaranteed to go up against one of the best back-courts in the NBA in Chicago (Rose-Butler), Toronto (Lowry-Derozan), or Washington (Wall-Beal). They're going to have much larger issues coming out the East now, (doesn't help that they've cooled down a little) ...

I guess this is why you don't go to clubs before a game in the season.

Anyways.....

In before the people with disdain for Lebron James come out and argue that his path keeps getting easier.

Hawkeye15
04-09-2015, 05:52 PM
well that sucks.

FraziersKnicks
04-09-2015, 05:58 PM
I swear that whole story just keeps getting weirder and weirder...

NBA player stabbed in a club, then two NBA players from opposing team arrested for preventing the police from creating a crime scene, one of which breaks his leg in the process of being arrested.

Very odd.

DemarDerozan
04-09-2015, 06:16 PM
New York City Cops. They ain't too smart. FTP.

lakerfan85
04-09-2015, 06:39 PM
These dumbass players shouldn't be out at a club at 4 in the morning during the season..

Luke_K77bear
04-09-2015, 06:47 PM
i thought still on thunder

beasted86
04-09-2015, 07:12 PM
Smart guy goes out to the club at 4 AM before the second night of a back to back, gets in a fight with police about an incident that doesn't even involve him and ends up fracturing his leg which will end his season.

You can't make up this stupidity in a fiction novel. I hope the Hawks have suspended him without pay for whatever games are left.

lakerfan85
04-09-2015, 07:22 PM
Smart guy goes out to the club at 4 AM before the second night of a back to back, gets in a fight with police about an incident that doesn't even involve him and ends up fracturing his leg which will end his season.

You can't make up this stupidity in a fiction novel. I hope the Hawks have suspended him without pay for whatever games are left.

I agree..

FlashBolt
04-09-2015, 08:59 PM
When Thabo was with us, he never got into this kind of trouble. He's a good guy who should have contained himself. **** happens. I just hope the Hawks are in full power and ready for the playoffs because I would hate to see another team hampered with injuries. Hawks/Bulls are legitimately the only two teams capable of beating the Cavs more than once in a 7 game series. As for Thabo being the guy who defends LeBron, he has never been good at it anyways. This doesn't affect them in a series vs Cleveland whatsoever.

DemarDerozan
04-09-2015, 09:53 PM
Smart guy goes out to the club at 4 AM before the second night of a back to back, gets in a fight with police about an incident that doesn't even involve him and ends up fracturing his leg which will end his season.

You can't make up this stupidity in a fiction novel. I hope the Hawks have suspended him without pay for whatever games are left.

Your words sound like the kind of rhetoric that is popular with certain media syndicates. Who the **** are you to criticize an internationally successful athlete who had already made 10x as much money as you could possibly make and had earned it doing what he loves. If Thabo wants to go to a club like many other millions of Americans do on a regular basis it shouldn't factor into the circumstances of his injury. What I will say is that he was accosted by an organization who is known for brutalizing African Americans. Your generalized thinking is an example of what might destroy our country. Yeah... I told you how I really feel.

DemarDerozan
04-09-2015, 09:58 PM
fixed... Just cannot tolerate ignorance.

colinskik
04-09-2015, 10:42 PM
Smart guy goes out to the club at 4 AM before the second night of a back to back, gets in a fight with police about an incident that doesn't even involve him and ends up fracturing his leg which will end his season.

You can't make up this stupidity in a fiction novel. I hope the Hawks have suspended him without pay for whatever games are left.

Or **** the NYPD.

Tony_Starks
04-09-2015, 11:05 PM
Smart guy goes out to the club at 4 AM before the second night of a back to back, gets in a fight with police about an incident that doesn't even involve him and ends up fracturing his leg which will end his season.

You can't make up this stupidity in a fiction novel. I hope the Hawks have suspended him without pay for whatever games are left.

Or **** the NYPD.

Rolling with this for $400 Alex!!!

gaughan333
04-09-2015, 11:22 PM
fixed... Just cannot tolerate ignorance.

The irony

kobe4thewinbang
04-09-2015, 11:34 PM
Yeah. Good way to fall out of the NBA. Who's gonna ever sign him now?

DemarDerozan
04-10-2015, 12:45 AM
The irony

The irony? Please elaborate. Are you just a bafoon? A dimwitted two word poster? Please elaborate on why it's okay for police to shoot innocent black men in the back and beat unarmed athletes. Your argument is welcomed. Let's hear it. I just watched the grainy video. I did not see any evidence of Thabo attacking an officer.

Vinny642
04-10-2015, 02:04 AM
This is just bizarre

goingfor28
04-10-2015, 02:19 AM
The irony? Please elaborate. Are you just a bafoon? A dimwitted two word poster? Please elaborate on why it's okay for police to shoot innocent black men in the back and beat unarmed athletes. Your argument is welcomed. Let's hear it. I just watched the grainy video. I did not see any evidence of Thabo attacking an officer.

Nobody said that

Ariza's Better
04-10-2015, 02:25 AM
The irony? Please elaborate. Are you just a bafoon? A dimwitted two word poster? Please elaborate on why it's okay for police to shoot innocent black men in the back and beat unarmed athletes. Your argument is welcomed. Let's hear it. I just watched the grainy video. I did not see any evidence of Thabo attacking an officer.
1. The shooting incident has nothing to do with this so don't even try.
2. As you said, it's a grainy video at the end of the incident. we don't know what happened before the video starts. So your wild speculation is ridiculous.

Midnightbottle
04-10-2015, 02:47 AM
These dumbass players shouldn't be out at a club at 4 in the morning during the season..
Smart players don't go to clubs haha. I know I'm no million dollar ball player but going to bars has lost its appeal to me never mind staying at a night club till four in the morning.

ewing
04-10-2015, 07:04 AM
the Hawks should sue the **** out of the NYPD

lakerfan85
04-10-2015, 08:52 AM
the Hawks should sue the **** out of the NYPD

Why? Maybe they should fine the players who put themselves in this situation.. I mean what the hell did they think was going to happen when they decided to interfere with the police.. Maybe they should've kept their mouths shut and went about their business and they wouldn't have got arrested..

PurpleLynch
04-10-2015, 09:06 AM
We haven't an entire video of the situation,so any judgement is premature,but...a lot of american policemen should be trained in a more proper way.
And I say this without having a direct experience living in Italy,but it's a well known thing that a lot of policemen in America are "unprofessional" ,mainly because they use excessive force with suspects.

pebloemer
04-10-2015, 09:15 AM
Your words sound like the kind of rhetoric that is popular with certain media syndicates. Who the **** are you to criticize an internationally successful athlete who had already made 10x as much money as you could possibly make and had earned it doing what he loves. If Thabo wants to go to a club like many other millions of Americans do on a regular basis it shouldn't factor into the circumstances of his injury. What I will say is that he was accosted by an organization who is known for brutalizing African Americans. Your generalized thinking is an example of what might destroy our country. Yeah... I told you how I really feel.

I'm not sure you can paint all NYPD officers with the same brush then proceed to criticize the generalized thinking of someone else.

It is a strange, unfortunate event where we lack significant details on the matter.

beasted86
04-10-2015, 09:26 AM
Your words sound like the kind of rhetoric that is popular with certain media syndicates. Who the **** are you to criticize an internationally successful athlete who had already made 10x as much money as you could possibly make and had earned it doing what he loves. If Thabo wants to go to a club like many other millions of Americans do on a regular basis it shouldn't factor into the circumstances of his injury. What I will say is that he was accosted by an organization who is known for brutalizing African Americans. Your generalized thinking is an example of what might destroy our country. Yeah... I told you how I really feel.

There's just so many hilariously unintelligent points here I don't feel like bothering to respond, but I'll give a half attempt.

So what you're telling me is that all people who've amassed a self-made fortune are exempt from criticism for stupid and/or illegal actions simply because they are wealthy and have made more than I'll ever make? Hey, I know this wealthy financial adviser named Bernie Madoff, I think he can help you out a lot and also make you wealthy, I can give you his number, just let me know.

Yes, it is foolish to be out at 4 AM after just flying into New York from Detroit after playing a game and knowing you have a back to back against the Nets the next night. Do I really need to explain to you why?

And finally, at some point people need to use common sense, although not all that common anymore. People cannot claim innocence even when they did no wrong if they know the reality of the situation they put themselves in. Maybe if I'm simply driving in a supermarket parking lot on the south side of Chicago and get shot with a stray bullet I can claim innocence, but if I go to a house party in a gang infested neighborhood in Englewood and a fight breaks out from two rivals that showed up, people shouldn't have as much sympathy for me as the victim if I'm hit with the same bullet even if I may or may not have been involved with any of the two shooters. At some point people need to realize that sometimes bad things don't "just happen" you can avoid some situations with some basic common sense protocol. I'm tired of people walking around in a fog, half awake on everything that's going on around them then crying when something happens. From the details we have Thabo should have avoided this situation. He wasn't involved, cops didn't need to question him. The NYPD cops didn't just start being notoriously corrupt and quick to escalate conflicts with violence on Wednesday. When I see a group of cops in N.Y. I see them exactly like a street gang in Compton or anywhere else. Just a different form of "colors." And guess what, I'm not a millionaire and even I know that.

Hawkeye15
04-10-2015, 09:39 AM
Your words sound like the kind of rhetoric that is popular with certain media syndicates. Who the **** are you to criticize an internationally successful athlete who had already made 10x as much money as you could possibly make and had earned it doing what he loves. If Thabo wants to go to a club like many other millions of Americans do on a regular basis it shouldn't factor into the circumstances of his injury. What I will say is that he was accosted by an organization who is known for brutalizing African Americans. Your generalized thinking is an example of what might destroy our country. Yeah... I told you how I really feel.

here is the difference between Thabo, and yourself (or me for that matter).

Do you get paid $4,000,000 to play a sport? Now, a requirement of this profession, is a healthy body. By no means can you protect yourself when you are playing, and by no means should you avoid the world, or walk around in bubble wrap. But if you don't have the common sense that being at a club, and not moving when a fight breaks out, let alone while you KNOW your body is what makes you money, how stupid are you?

When I trained for fights, and competitions, I sure as hell wasn't going out to clubs or bars. And I made no money. Thabo is an idiot, period.

Luke_K77bear
04-10-2015, 12:05 PM
haha, good point. That might be racist to Al Sharpton here

MonroeFAN
04-10-2015, 04:10 PM
the Hawks should sue the **** out of the NYPD

Are you being serious?

goingfor28
04-10-2015, 04:56 PM
The NBPA is launching an investigation into the tactics used by the NYPD during Thabo Sefolosha's arrest early Wednesday morning that resulted in a season-ending broken fibula for Thabo that will require surgery.

"The players union is concerned about the circumstances of Thabo Sefolosha and Pero Antic's arrest and is doing its own investigation of the situation," NBPA spokeswoman Tara Greco said. "The union was fully engaged in supporting all three players in court and in the precinct this week, and will continue to stay engaged as each situation evolves." Sefolosha's injury went untreated as he was held in custody, and this is developing into a pretty major story. We'll continue to provide updates as they become available.

-rotoworld

That last part is pretty bad

MonroeFAN
04-10-2015, 05:06 PM
Not really.

There's not nearly enough information here. It's a broken fibula, it's extremely possible to not even know that you have a broken fibula. A basketball injury is not comparable to an injury sustained by a person committing a criminal act who is behind bars. I have a torn right trap from lifting, if I tackle a cop and aggravate it do you think anyone is going to care?

I don't.

I don't see what's different here. There's a good chance the cop didn't even know who he was. Realistically, what type of response do you see the NBPA being awarded here? The fact that he received poor treatment from behind bars (give me a break) doesn't negate the fact that he was out and about and put his body at risk. The NBPA isn't going to win anything, and I'm guessing the Hawks organization will stay out of it because they don't allow emotion to dictate their decisions like the players association. If the Hawks do get involved, I see them going after Thabo. I doubt the organization is happy with him.

MonroeFAN
04-10-2015, 05:12 PM
There's also something very much in common with the groups that make up the two sides to this argument. I don't need to open that can of worms, but seriously, grow up already.

oballers
04-10-2015, 10:28 PM
Are you being serious?

The lawsuit here is clear and simple in my opinion and it can come via 3 fronts NBPA, Thabo or the Hawks.

But the Hawks case is stronger. Unless something is proven against Thabo and/or if charges are dropped then the civil lawsuit follows the following lines.

- Thabo is an asset of the Hawks worth millions

- He is a valuable and important member of the rotation

- He is one of the best defenders in the league

- the Hawks are the 2nd best team in the league with a chance to win a chip

- The lack of Thabo means they have to field a weakened team and if they lose in the playoffs that translates in to a big loss in revenue in the 10s of millions.

Negligence, racism, brutality etc… whatever you want to call it. By the NYPD is the direct cause of the loss of Thabo and therefore the weakening of the Hawks and therefore a direct link to the (potential) loss of millions.

Not to mention all the time and money needed for his rehab etc...

goingfor28
04-10-2015, 10:50 PM
I feel bad for whoever had to arrest Antic. Dude is massive.

gaughan333
04-11-2015, 04:15 AM
The irony? Please elaborate. Are you just a bafoon? A dimwitted two word poster? Please elaborate on why it's okay for police to shoot innocent black men in the back and beat unarmed athletes. Your argument is welcomed. Let's hear it. I just watched the grainy video. I did not see any evidence of Thabo attacking an officer.

glass houses

PurpleLynch
04-11-2015, 05:47 AM
I feel bad for whoever had to arrest Antic. Dude is massive.

And looks like a serbian mafia mob,even if he's from Macedonia.

Hell,can you imagine arresting both him and Pekovic? I would **** my pants ahaha

MonroeFAN
04-11-2015, 08:00 AM
The lawsuit here is clear and simple in my opinion and it can come via 3 fronts NBPA, Thabo or the Hawks.

But the Hawks case is stronger. Unless something is proven against Thabo and/or if charges are dropped then the civil lawsuit follows the following lines.

- Thabo is an asset of the Hawks worth millions

- He is a valuable and important member of the rotation

- He is one of the best defenders in the league

- the Hawks are the 2nd best team in the league with a chance to win a chip

- The lack of Thabo means they have to field a weakened team and if they lose in the playoffs that translates in to a big loss in revenue in the 10s of millions.

Negligence, racism, brutality etc… whatever you want to call it. By the NYPD is the direct cause of the loss of Thabo and therefore the weakening of the Hawks and therefore a direct link to the (potential) loss of millions.

Not to mention all the time and money needed for his rehab etc...

ok,


This isn't Riley Freeman's basketball law, it's the United States of America. The NYPD had nothing to do with Thabo being out late and involving himself in matters that he could have easily avoided. This is 100% on the Hawks organization to collect restitution. They will go after Thabo, or they will go after no one. Ignorance, crying racism, brutality etc... none of this matters.

Thabo is the direct cause of the loss of Thabo. The Hawks are not a governing force and neither is the NBA. Not a single one of your bullet points means anything in the face of the law. Jail isn't a 5 star resort where some nice looking lady is going to ask if you're feeling alright. He broke the law. If you guys can't get past that fact, then you have some serious soul searching to do.

The only racist people here are the executives behind the NBPA. They're so quick to jump head first into a situation they know very little about just because a black man is involved. It's disgusting. If a player hurts himself sky diving 3 games before the playoffs, is the pilot liable? The person who suggested he sky dive? Surely someone will have to accept responsibility, and we all know at this point it won't be the person who actually committed the act. He's a defensive spark plug off of the bench for a MAJOR professional basketball team, I mean come on now.

I agree, F*&^ the police. I can't believe them sometimes.

MonroeFAN
04-11-2015, 09:03 AM
The video on TMZ is an absolute joke as well. It doesn't even look like he's hit by the night stick, the cop just extended it out as a threat. Even if he did, it wasn't a malicious hit and officers have every right to use that if they deem it necessary. Thabo was resisting arrest, period. Two women in the background yelling "he didn't do anything" isn't proof of him not doing anything. The best comment from the girls taping it "Why is his face on the ground?" Because he's resisting arrest, ever watch the show cops? The story here is that Thabo and the NBA think they deserve preferential treatment, and that's absolute nonsense.

I understand that the black community has dealt with a lot of BS from the police lately. I'm sorry that it is happening, I truly am. Stop turning everything into a story. He deserves no preferential treatment at all, and he got up and walked away from the scene on his own.

dhopisthename
04-11-2015, 01:07 PM
why is someone out at 4am on a back to back? is this normal?

Mr.B
04-11-2015, 01:26 PM
NWA said it best......

She Swallowed It

ewing
04-11-2015, 09:28 PM
why is someone out at 4am on a back to back? is this normal?

they have a shoot around mid afternoon and then like another 5 hours off before game time. who give a ****?

ewing
04-11-2015, 09:39 PM
Not really.

There's not nearly enough information here. It's a broken fibula, it's extremely possible to not even know that you have a broken fibula. A basketball injury is not comparable to an injury sustained by a person committing a criminal act who is behind bars. I have a torn right trap from lifting, if I tackle a cop and aggravate it do you think anyone is going to care?

I don't.

I don't see what's different here. There's a good chance the cop didn't even know who he was. Realistically, what type of response do you see the NBPA being awarded here? The fact that he received poor treatment from behind bars (give me a break) doesn't negate the fact that he was out and about and put his body at risk. The NBPA isn't going to win anything, and I'm guessing the Hawks organization will stay out of it because they don't allow emotion to dictate their decisions like the players association. If the Hawks do get involved, I see them going after Thabo. I doubt the organization is happy with him.


neither of us have any idea what happened. maybe he acted out of control and needed be restrained and got hurt, maybe it was a freak thing, if i were to guess though the cops had no idea who either of them were. the cops were a couple pudgy dudes who had to respond to a violent situation. The hawks players put themselves in the middle of the situation b/c the know Chris, they were a little arrogant acting people rich dudes are, the cops saw two bad looking dudes that weren't acting scared of them and over reacted.

dhopisthename
04-11-2015, 09:40 PM
they have a shoot around mid afternoon and then like another 5 hours off before game time. who give a ****?

because it would be unlikely they get a full nights rest and it makes sense why nba players complain so much about back to backs.

ewing
04-11-2015, 09:48 PM
because it would be unlikely they get a full nights rest and it makes sense why nba players complain so much about back to backs.


i don't think you understand time.

dhopisthename
04-11-2015, 10:00 PM
i don't think you understand time.

if they are at the club at 4am that means that they don't get home till at least 5am and everything I have ever heard says that nba teams have practice before noon
http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/Life_On_The_Road.html

so they are not getting no 8 hours of sleep.

ewing
04-11-2015, 10:23 PM
if they are at the club at 4am that means that they don't get home till at least 5am and everything I have ever heard says that nba teams have practice before noon
http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/Life_On_The_Road.html

so they are not getting no 8 hours of sleep.

they got in at 2 AM. No way they had a morning shoot around not that your aren't just looking for a reason to be a judgmental anyway. "If i had any talent I..." :pity:

goingfor28
04-14-2015, 11:00 PM
Thabo Sefolosha has released the following statement following last week's incident with New York City Police that left him with*a fractured right fibula and ligament damage. Sefolosha will miss the remainder of the season.

"I would like to begin by expressing my gratitude to my family and friends, the Hawks organization and my teammates. This has been a difficult time for me and I truly appreciate the support I have received from everyone. I am extremely disappointed that I will not be able to join my teammates on the court during the playoffs and apologize to them for any distraction this incident has caused. I will be cheering for them every step of the way and will be diligent in my rehabilitation.

"On advice of counsel, I hope you can appreciate that I cannot discuss the facts of the case. Those questions will be answered by my attorney in a court of law. "I will simply say that I am in great pain, have experienced a significant injury and that the injury was caused by the police."