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Jeffy25
02-24-2015, 12:01 PM
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12331388/the-great-analytics-rankings

76ers 1
Rockets 3
Spurs 7
Mavs 8

Lakers 113
Nets 118
Knicks 121 (out of 122)

2-ONE-5
02-24-2015, 12:04 PM
i know this is just talking about the NBA teams but it was too funny for Philly fans to see the Sixers first and Phillies dead last. I know the Sixers teack everything from both games and practices to help these young guys and it seems to be paying off when it comes to developing individual talent

KnicksorBust
02-24-2015, 12:04 PM
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12331388/the-great-analytics-rankings

76ers 1
Rockets 3
Spurs 7
Mavs 8

Lakers 113
Nets 118
Knicks 121 (out of 122)

Speaks volumes.

D-Leethal
02-24-2015, 12:32 PM
Questionable "analysis" at best.


With their lavish budget, the Knicks have proved willing to spend over the years, including nominal investments in analytics. The Knicks subscribed to SportVU before it went league-wide, have utilized Catapult technology and employ a director of analytics, Mike Smith, with an assistant. Smith's background is in video rather than statistical analysis, however, and our sources cast doubt on how interested the team's decision-makers really are. Director of player personnel Mark Warkentien, who hired analytics pioneer Dean Oliver when he was with the Denver Nuggets, is a believer, but Jackson calls the shots and coach Derek Fisher is running Jackson's offense.

"So, Knicks were the pioneers of SportVU, have invested in and utilized Catapult technologies, employ a Director of Analytics, employ a Director of Player Personnel who once hired Da Gawd of advanced Analytics back in the day ........ but they suck balls and Phil once had this quote so we doubt they use any of the millions upon millions they invested in analytics over the years"

mightybosstone
02-24-2015, 01:15 PM
It's interesting to me that both the Astros and Rockets are in the top three. It makes me wonder if when Jim Crane bought the Astros, he looked at Les Alexander's model in Houston at all. It certainly seems to be on the road to working. The Astros farm system is as strong as it's been in decades and they're poised to make a huge improvement this season.

Chronz
02-24-2015, 05:14 PM
So Knicks invested in cutting edge technology and then hired old school business brass that wont apply it?

PatsSoxKnicks
02-24-2015, 07:37 PM
Questionable "analysis" at best.



"So, Knicks were the pioneers of SportVU, have invested in and utilized Catapult technologies, employ a Director of Analytics, employ a Director of Player Personnel who once hired Da Gawd of advanced Analytics back in the day ........ but they suck balls and Phil once had this quote so we doubt they use any of the millions upon millions they invested in analytics over the years"

It's well known throughout the analytics community that the Knicks aren't anywhere close to a lot of teams in their use of analytics. And in fact, Oliver has said it himself- the Knicks largely ignored Mark Warkentien's input.

PatsSoxKnicks
02-24-2015, 07:40 PM
So Knicks invested in cutting edge technology and then hired old school business brass that wont apply it?

Yeah a lot of teams have analytics people (well all do), it's just some teams don't bother to incorporate it into decision making and it just gets ignored. The Knicks are probably one of those teams.

PatsSoxKnicks
02-24-2015, 07:40 PM
Also that list is wrong about some teams but obviously some of the teams it's wrong about are quiet about their analytics use.

KnickNyKnick
02-24-2015, 09:43 PM
all teams use analytics, theyre not going to announce it their findings though..

Jeffy25
02-24-2015, 10:48 PM
It's interesting to me that both the Astros and Rockets are in the top three. It makes me wonder if when Jim Crane bought the Astros, he looked at Les Alexander's model in Houston at all. It certainly seems to be on the road to working. The Astros farm system is as strong as it's been in decades and they're poised to make a huge improvement this season.

A lot of the Astros comes from their GM (Luhnow - former Cards farm Director). Dude is crazy obsessed with analytics, and he found and developed so many late round success picks for the Cards that have turned into very good starting players. It's a huge reason the Cards have been so successful the last five years while letting the best player of this generation walk.

Tony_Starks
02-24-2015, 11:36 PM
Looks about right...

ewing
02-25-2015, 12:26 AM
It's well known throughout the analytics community that the Knicks aren't anywhere close to a lot of teams in their use of analytics. And in fact, Oliver has said it himself- the Knicks largely ignored Mark Warkentien's input.

what does rent look like in the analytic community?

gamechanger0908
02-25-2015, 02:57 PM
interesting