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IKnowHoops
02-15-2015, 04:49 AM
Zack may be the only guy that could beat Vince in a dunk contest. I have to say that Zack's performance was better than Vincanity's.

JNA17
02-15-2015, 04:59 AM
No but LaVine's contest is up there. He put out a hell of a show.

Prime Vince Carter vs Jason Richardson vs Zach LaVine would be an amazing dunk contest. :D

Hawkeye15
02-15-2015, 05:34 AM
Didn't have the power of Vince, but lets see in 3 years....

Avenged
02-15-2015, 06:14 AM
You obviously don't know **** and didn't see the contest.

tredigs
02-15-2015, 06:14 AM
He did not, but it was top 3 ever. -130 was the steal of the century.


ASG weekend in general. I know it's a joke game, but USA's squad favored over the World??? That was absurd.

mngopher35
02-15-2015, 06:26 AM
No, but it was pretty awesome and lived up to the hype (which was pretty high).

Haha tre I didn't bet on the dunk contest (probably should have with that line) but I was shocked the world team wasn't favored and made a bet. I feel like everyone was predicting the world team to win so I'm not sure how that happened...

tredigs
02-15-2015, 06:36 AM
No, but it was pretty awesome and lived up to the hype (which was pretty high).

Haha tre I didn't bet on the dunk contest (probably should have with that line) but I was shocked the world team wasn't favored and made a bet. I feel like everyone was predicting the world team to win so I'm not sure how that happened...

Outside of VC, Lavine is the best dunker I have ever seen. The fact that he was only -150 cracked me up. The World/USA game was also clearly off. Name recognition, bottom line.

Cleaned the book on those though. They actually cut us off because it was only an "ASG" and we had put too much on it. Still mildly drunk.. goood times.

Lakers + Giants
02-15-2015, 06:44 AM
He did not, but it was top 3 ever. -130 was the steal of the century.


ASG weekend in general. I know it's a joke game, but USA's squad favored over the World??? That was absurd.

Guess who else bet on lavine! :cheers:

tredigs
02-15-2015, 06:56 AM
Guess who else bet on lavine! :cheers:

Haha figured you did. Good job my dude. For the Dunk Contest we had to get funds on to 5Dimes, it wasn't even available at the Casino.

Probably because it was judge based?

Minimal
02-15-2015, 07:07 AM
Not even close, sorry

FraziersKnicks
02-15-2015, 08:27 AM
It was really really good, one of the best performances in a long time. The first two dunks were pretty incredible but then the final round was basically just two between the legs dunks, impressive but the imagination wasn't quite there.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-15-2015, 08:52 AM
Zack may be the only guy that could beat Vince in a dunk contest. I have to say that Zack's performance was better than Vincanity's. Not even close. Vince was the last real dunk champion.

PurpleLynch
02-15-2015, 09:07 AM
I dn't think so. Lavine put on a hell of a show(one of the best I remember),but Vinsanity performance was just legendary.
Lavine is still young,I wouldn't mind having him in another dunk contest when he will be more powerful.

mike_noodles
02-15-2015, 09:51 AM
Not even top 3 ever, I don't know what you guys are smoking. Nique, Jordan, VC all had better. You can also make cases for guys like Rider, Webb, Miner and Kobe being better. You can't miss a dunk if you want to be talked about as best ever. VC never missed one, they were clean with power and at least two of them were unseen before.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-15-2015, 10:01 AM
Not even top 3 ever, I don't know what you guys are smoking. Nique, Jordan, VC all had better. You can also make cases for guys like Rider, Webb, Miner and Kobe being better. You can't miss a dunk if you want to be talked about as best ever. VC never missed one, they were clean with power and at least two of them were unseen before.

I was thinking same thing. But didn't post it. Heck another Wolves as in Rider doing between the legs dunks in actual games back in the '90s.

b@llhog24
02-15-2015, 10:20 AM
Nope.

But the first time in a good while that somebody in a dunk contest actually impressed me.

b@llhog24
02-15-2015, 10:21 AM
He did not, but it was top 3 ever. -130 was the steal of the century.


ASG weekend in general. I know it's a joke game, but USA's squad favored over the World??? That was absurd.

Who'd you bet on in the 3 point contest?

ManningToTyree
02-15-2015, 10:22 AM
No even close and Levine put on a great show. But c'mon nobody but Jordan and nique are on Carter's level

Shady66
02-15-2015, 10:40 AM
Best in the past 7 years or so but not that great

R. Johnson#3
02-15-2015, 11:00 AM
After the 1st round I though Lavine was going to do something amazing in the 2nd. Not taking anything away from his dunks in the 2nd round, they were great but they weren't all too surprising. Vince did something new and amazing on every dunk. Lavine's behind the back off the catch was downright beautiful though.

A sidenote too. Plumlee's first dunk was so damn underappreciated.

2-ONE-5
02-15-2015, 11:15 AM
Zack may be the only guy that could beat Vince in a dunk contest. I have to say that Zack's performance was better than Vincanity's.

what? no not even close

RLundi
02-15-2015, 11:16 AM
Pretty good. Actually, very good, and not completely unlike Vince's. But I think for most, or maybe just me, Vince's dunks were better merely for the fact that LaVine isn't a star. It sounds silly but I'm human-- I appreciated Carter's more if for no other reason than he was a famous, well-known and established player and not an unknown rookie.

Of course, that isn't the only reason. The buzz, crowd and atmosphere were insane during the 2000 dunk contest. I also like how Vince Carter's body looks when he dunks, not to mention that he had that raw power. But in reality, the dunks themselves weren't THAT much better than LaVine's, but I'd stil put Carter's total performance significantly higher than LaVine's.

LaVine put on an amazing display, best I've seen since Vince I think. But to me, it'll take much more than what he did to top or even come close to Vince.

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 11:58 AM
No. You're drunk.


He's probably on that Jason Richardson level - Unique athletic dunks, by a non-star player.

Except I'd still give Jrich teh nod because he's stronger which makes it a bit more impactful and the atmosphere was better in '04 than last night.

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 11:58 AM
Pretty good. Actually, very good, and not completely unlike Vince's. But I think for most, or maybe just me, Vince's dunks were better merely for the fact that LaVine isn't a star. It sounds silly but I'm human-- I appreciated Carter's more if for no other reason than he was a famous, well-known and established player and not an unknown rookie.

Of course, that isn't the only reason. The buzz, crowd and atmosphere were insane during the 2000 dunk contest. I also like how Vince Carter's body looks when he dunks, not to mention that he had that raw power. But in reality, the dunks themselves weren't THAT much better than LaVine's, but I'd stil put Carter's total performance significantly higher than LaVine's.

LaVine put on an amazing display, best I've seen since Vince I think. But to me, it'll take much more than what he did to top or even come close to Vince.

This.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 12:35 PM
Yes he did, his first two dunks topped anything Vince did. My only complaint is that he didn't really complete the show as his last two were worse than his first two. But he's definitely better than Carter so quite living through your nostalgia and accept the new dunk champ.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 12:39 PM
No. You're drunk.


He's probably on that Jason Richardson level - Unique athletic dunks, by a non-star player.

Except I'd still give Jrich teh nod because he's stronger which makes it a bit more impactful and the atmosphere was better in '04 than last night.

Who gives a **** if he's a star or not. WTF that have to do with anything? That's like saying if Bellinelli some how managed to win the 3pt contest again that Curry is the best three point contestant because he's more popular star.

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 12:52 PM
:facepalm:

tnewkirk
02-15-2015, 01:03 PM
no lol, vc is the greatest dunker ever.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 01:14 PM
Vince's dunk weren't even that good go re watch them. They were innovative at the time which is why he won but the stuff Lavine was doing looked better and were way harder to do. His head was at the rim on a lot of those Lavine > Carter and i'm a Raptors fan too.

GiantsSwaGG
02-15-2015, 01:25 PM
:facepalm:

jon32
02-15-2015, 01:30 PM
No.....2 of his 3 dunks were copied. ......behind the back was the one Andrew Wiggins was doing all the time and did it in a contest a couple years ago.......and the between the legs one where wiggins held it was one that Ross did when he was in the dc.

He had one sick dunk and the others were great but he's not even close to VC........not even JR.

Tony_Starks
02-15-2015, 01:33 PM
No.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 01:41 PM
No.....2 of his 3 dunks were copied. ......behind the back was the one Andrew Wiggins was doing all the time and did it in a contest a couple years ago.......and the between the legs one where wiggins held it was one that Ross did when he was in the dc.

He had one sick dunk and the others were great but he's not even close to VC........not even JR.

NBA dunkers aren't even good. You wanna see a 6'1 white guy best every dunk Carter has ever done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYdcDc8Yun0.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayk-d8x2ZAY

HoopsDrive
02-15-2015, 01:51 PM
VC was a lot more creative and he had better flair, his dunks were flawless because he combined power and grace at the same time. His 360 windmill was the smoothest dunk I've ever seen anyone pull off,.

Nothing against Lavine, the best dunker I've seen in quite a few years but he's not on VC's level. I think a better comparison is JRich who also performed a lot of the same dunks but from different angles. However, JRich also had better flair, moved his body and legs a lot more before slamming it home. He also had more power, he could pull some of the Nique dunks with ease. The one thing Lavine has going for him is his execution is almost flawless on difficult dunks.

For Lavine, it's really a case of creativity. He's gotta do something else beside between the legs. I loved the behind the back but he's gotta show us more, you can't keep doing the same dunks over and over again. If he defends his crown I wanna see him do some power dunks, 360s and windmills.

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 01:52 PM
lol Justintime with maybe his biggest reach ever for his VC hating.

you're seriously being really petty bro, time to move on. (that times been a long while now actually. Were going on 10 years now)

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 01:57 PM
lol Justintime with maybe his biggest reach ever for his VC hating.

you're seriously being really petty bro, time to move on. (that times been a long while now actually. Were going on 10 years now)

No I love VC but Lavine was better simple as that.

Corey
02-15-2015, 02:02 PM
You obviously don't know **** and didn't see the contest.

What a classy post. Keep it up dude.

mjt20mik
02-15-2015, 02:03 PM
It was good but not close to Vince. Top 10 performance though.

asandhu23
02-15-2015, 02:10 PM
Not even close. Vince was the last real dunk champion.

smh. J-Rich.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 02:14 PM
VC was the greatest in game dunker ever FACT. Lavine's first two dunks were better than anything Carter did from a technical standpoint. Olidipo had the best dunk of the Tournament and J Rich was the last great dunker.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
02-15-2015, 02:20 PM
:facepalm:

oh man, this

b@llhog24
02-15-2015, 02:27 PM
What a classy post. Keep it up dude.
Lol.

b@llhog24
02-15-2015, 02:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImAMVqA6mug

Had to remind myself.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-15-2015, 02:28 PM
No.

Sadds The Gr8
02-15-2015, 02:30 PM
Nah. He was impressive but didn't have as much creativity. He relied a lot on the thru the legs. If he mixed in some impressive 360s and windmills then maybe he'd be on that level. He has a chance to next year if he gets more creative.

jerellh528
02-15-2015, 02:34 PM
Still not at Vince's level. He's lacking the strength and creativity. He could in a few years when his body matures a lil and he gains some power, but until then, no. He definatley gets a little more air than Vince though, and he makes dunks look easy but the crazy thing about carter is many of his very best dunks were in-game, which multiplies the difficulty by like 5x imo.

PurpleLynch
02-15-2015, 02:42 PM
]VC was the greatest in game dunker ever FACT. Lavine's first two dunks were better than anything Carter did from a technical standpoint.[/B] Olidipo had the best dunk of the Tournament and J Rich was the last great dunker.

1st part of your comment is right:VC was the best dunker in game. the 2nd part is just...just look at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVC3yBHjNvo


I could say VC's first dunk was,from a technical standpoint,better than anything Lavine did in this contest.

But Lavine was so amazing for his age,I just hope he will be in also next year.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-15-2015, 03:11 PM
Yes he did, his first two dunks topped anything Vince did. My only complaint is that he didn't really complete the show as his last two were worse than his first two. But he's definitely better than Carter so quite living through your nostalgia and accept the new dunk champ.

Not sure what you watched? LaVine and the behind the back and between the legs dunk. Then the teammate throwing ball behind the rim then ended up being another between the legs dunk. Was alright but nothing to write home about. Heck Carter one up the Wilkins,Jordan,Barry dunk from free throw line. Carter dunk from free throw line with both hands on the ball. Where the rest just stretched as far as they could and did with one hand only which is easier then stretching out and dunking both both hands. Heck if LaVine wanted to use his string bean body right he should of did a 1080 dunk or dunk from free throw line like NBA JAM but spinning his arm like two or three times in a circular motion. I almost was gonna tweet them two ideas to Giannis but didn't.

FlakeyFool
02-15-2015, 03:26 PM
That behind the back wrap around dunk was easily one of the best dunks I've ever seen. That vertical was spectacular.

Goose17
02-15-2015, 03:32 PM
Those first two dunks are hands down the best performance I've seen in a dunk contest since Carter.

Dude is the dunk contest saviour. He's making it worth watching again. I hope he attends next year and tries that free throw line windmill he tried on youtube.

aman_13
02-15-2015, 03:40 PM
He put on a show. It's been a while since we could say that about anyone. I'm hoping he does it again next yr and goes up against Wiggins and Ross. I felt like Ross got cheated last yr because of the format. Those three could make it special.

aman_13
02-15-2015, 03:42 PM
DeMar may even do it. I remember he said he would do it again if it was in Toronto.

Goose17
02-15-2015, 03:55 PM
LaVine,
DeMar,
Wiggins,
Green.

That's the best we can hope for without superstars attending imo.

jerellh528
02-15-2015, 03:58 PM
Yeah but what superstars are actually superb Dunkers right now?

Goose17
02-15-2015, 04:38 PM
Yeah but what superstars are actually superb Dunkers right now?

Westbrook comes to mind.

lamzoka
02-15-2015, 05:11 PM
The "Space Jam" dunk is one of the best dunks in the history of the All-Star dunk contest

Goose17
02-15-2015, 05:26 PM
The "Space Jam" dunk is one of the best dunks in the history of the All-Star dunk contest

The music made it :laugh2:

naps
02-15-2015, 06:20 PM
Nope. Proabably, 95% of the posters of this forum were on diapers during Vince's unprecedented destruction. Lavine was pretty awesome and put up a show for the first time in years in a dunk contest but what Vince did was just out of this world...pure insanity.

ajgmc59
02-15-2015, 07:16 PM
Lavine had a great performance, but it doesn't compare to what Vince Carter did.

IKnowHoops
02-15-2015, 07:30 PM
I get Vince is an all star. And I remember the emotion...the fact that Tmac and Francis were making it competitive and putting on a show in there own right. But I still think Dunk for dunk in a vacuum. Lavine's dunks were better. Vince has more power, and the way his body moves is more vicious which adds to it, but from a degree of difficulty aspect...at least there you would have to say Lavine.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 07:35 PM
That behind the back wrap around dunk was easily one of the best dunks I've ever seen. That vertical was spectacular.

That is one of the big reasons Lavine for me was better than Carter. Sure Carter's dunks were great but he was only jumping like 36 inches while Lavine was likely 44+. Lavine was almost hitting his head on the rim it was crazy how high he got from an NBA player perspective.

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 07:37 PM
It's not just needs more strength and creativity...its element of surprise, the atmosphere, the timing, the body control, the anticipation, the first attempt execution every time, the celebration/swagger, the star power. It was incomparable.

Not just the contest itself but each dunk ppl were anticipating the next even more. And when he finally stuck his whole arm in the rim and ****ed up everyone's mind watching it was over. As in the dunk contest itself. You're mind is permanently corrupted after seeing all that in one big emotionally tasking event. It was resurrected and buried all in one as someone pointed out.


I think a good point one analyst said is that they didn't have vine or YouTube back then so when Lavine was on stage youve already seen what he can do and probably majority of his dunks in the contest. With Vince you never saw footage of the 360 windmill, the elbow, the between legs. I personally saw all Lavines crazy hops and behind back stuff on YouTube about a year ago so the element of surprise wasnt there.

Nothing against Lavine I was entertained and liked he didn't use props..he kept it real. Just don't compare it.

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 07:39 PM
That behind the back wrap around dunk was easily one of the best dunks I've ever seen. That vertical was spectacular.

That is one of the big reasons Lavine for me was better than Carter. Sure Carter's dunks were great but he was only jumping like 36 inches while Lavine was likely 44+. Lavine was almost hitting his head on the rim it was crazy how high he got from an NBA player perspective.

Lol. I'm not dissing Lavines hops, but he wighs probably 30 pounds less than Vince and was jumping off 1 leg vs the 2 VC always did

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 07:40 PM
Nope. Proabably, 95% of the posters of this forum were on diapers during Vince's unprecedented destruction. Lavine was pretty awesome and put up a show for the first time in years in a dunk contest but what Vince did was just out of this world...pure insanity.

Lol exactly.

northsider
02-15-2015, 07:50 PM
God it's been a while since I seen that ****. One thing that stuck out to me is just how tired of the duo dunks I am TBH. The best dunks I've seen are always solo acts.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 07:51 PM
I get Vince is an all star. And I remember the emotion...the fact that Tmac and Francis were making it competitive and putting on a show in there own right. But I still think Dunk for dunk in a vacuum. Lavine's dunks were better. Vince has more power, and the way his body moves is more vicious which adds to it, but from a degree of difficulty aspect...at least there you would have to say Lavine.

I think people just like Vince because they grew up watching him and he inspired a lot of people back then. The truth is though that his dunks aren't that hard to do and there are tons of pro dunkers and even amateur ones that can pull of his dunks. They were cool at the time because they were new but they don't really hold up. Does anyone seriously think that there is any dunk that Carter did that Lavine couldn't do? I can guarantee you Lavine could do anything he did and then some.

blahblahyoutoo
02-15-2015, 08:04 PM
what does out due mean?

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 08:04 PM
I think next years dunk contest will be the best in history. Lavine has risen the stakes and did so without using any of his best dunks. I'm expecting competitors to take next years contest much more seriously than this years meaning no Plumtrees or Gianisis. I'm also expecting Wiggins will likely be in it since it's in his hometown. He's a two-foot dunker which will sure make it interesting because he has a completely different style than Lavine

ThuglifeJ
02-15-2015, 08:05 PM
I get Vince is an all star. And I remember the emotion...the fact that Tmac and Francis were making it competitive and putting on a show in there own right. But I still think Dunk for dunk in a vacuum. Lavine's dunks were better. Vince has more power, and the way his body moves is more vicious which adds to it, but from a degree of difficulty aspect...at least there you would have to say Lavine.

I think people just like Vince because they grew up watching him and he inspired a lot of people back then. The truth is though that his dunks aren't that hard to do and there are tons of pro dunkers and even amateur ones that can pull of his dunks. They were cool at the time because they were new but they don't really hold up. Does anyone seriously think that there is any dunk that Carter did that Lavine couldn't do? I can guarantee you Lavine could do anything he did and then some.

How can you be that ignorant. So what, I've seen Dwight Howard do a windmill before, that doesn't make it better than a Nique or Vince one.


Oh btw clearing a 7 footer in game says hi.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 08:08 PM
How can you be that ignorant. So what, I've seen Dwight Howard do a windmill before, that doesn't make it better than a Nique or Vince one.


Oh btw clearing a 7 footer in game says hi.

I already said Vince was the greatest in-game dunker so why are you bring that up. I actually like some of his in game dunks better than his in the dunk contest. Go watch Lester Earl in his 1996 highschool dunk contest vs Kobe if you wanna see power on a windmill. Remember this was 4 years before Vince too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bamV1EjuCGg

bleedprple&gold
02-15-2015, 08:18 PM
No, Vince's was better. Too many under the legs dunks, he needed a little more variety. If he had replaced one of his under the legs dunks with the supposed 720 he can do, then it would have been the best ever. Or even a 540 (a real 540, not the one Oladipo did) then it still would have been the best ever.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2015, 09:07 PM
is 19 year old Lavine a better dunker than 19 year old Vince? That is a better question. Would like to see what Lavine is doing 4 years from now. He needs to get stronger, the power that Vince unleashed on top of the acrobatic, and vertical, is something I have not seen before. Lavine has the hops, and the creativity, now he just needs to get to the point where the rim is scared he is coming.

xxplayerxx23
02-15-2015, 09:33 PM
Agree with hawk, that is a much Better question, lavine isn't there yet but let's see if when he gets stronger , he has the hops to be a better dunker then anyone imo lets see when he grows

Cash
02-15-2015, 09:35 PM
Ha, no way. Carter's score was better for a reason. As awesome as Lavine's dunks were, i'd seen him do most of those in that Pro AM way before the contest. NOBODY had seen what Carter did that night, he even said himself before the contest, i have four dunks that nobody has ever seen.

JustinTime
02-15-2015, 09:46 PM
is 19 year old Lavine a better dunker than 19 year old Vince? That is a better question. Would like to see what Lavine is doing 4 years from now. He needs to get stronger, the power that Vince unleashed on top of the acrobatic, and vertical, is something I have not seen before. Lavine has the hops, and the creativity, now he just needs to get to the point where the rim is scared he is coming.

Lavine didn't even look like he was trying and his dunks were amazing still. He looked like he could have done a 720 if he wanted. Everything he did was so effortless which is exactly what I said when I watched Carter way back.

FlashBolt
02-15-2015, 11:46 PM
You guys need to stfu about the people were too young to watch VC dunks.. it's all over Youtube. age means nothing when you can just watch the entire contest on youtube.

ThuglifeJ
02-16-2015, 12:04 AM
You guys need to stfu about the people were too young to watch VC dunks.. it's all over Youtube. age means nothing when you can just watch the entire contest on youtube.

Wow worst post of the year candidate? Watching a dunk on YouTube 10+ years later is about 100X less exciting than watching it live while that star is relevant and in his prime


I'm guessing you were one of those in diapers?

FlashBolt
02-16-2015, 12:14 AM
Wow worst post of the year candidate? Watching a dunk on YouTube 10+ years later is about 100X less exciting than watching it live while that star is relevant and in his prime


I'm guessing you were one of those in diapers?

no its not lmao. We're comparing dunks here. You're making this seem as if we're watching them play a competitive game... calm the hell down. even if i were in those diapers, you think you're cool cause you're older? that just means you're dying sooner than I. sooo.. keep being proud of that.

jerellh528
02-16-2015, 12:26 AM
no its not lmao. We're comparing dunks here. You're making this seem as if we're watching them play a competitive game... calm the hell down. even if i were in those diapers, you think you're cool cause you're older? that just means you're dying sooner than I. sooo.. keep being proud of that.

Knock on wood lol

ThuglifeJ
02-16-2015, 12:31 AM
Wow worst post of the year candidate? Watching a dunk on YouTube 10+ years later is about 100X less exciting than watching it live while that star is relevant and in his prime


I'm guessing you were one of those in diapers?

no its not lmao. We're comparing dunks here. You're making this seem as if we're watching them play a competitive game... calm the hell down. even if i were in those diapers, you think you're cool cause you're older? that just means you're dying sooner than I. sooo.. keep being proud of that.

Okay so you're confirming your like in your teens still then I'm assuming? Okay good I know not to converse with you then thanks.

JustinTime
02-16-2015, 12:54 AM
no its not lmao. We're comparing dunks here. You're making this seem as if we're watching them play a competitive game... calm the hell down. even if i were in those diapers, you think you're cool cause you're older? that just means you're dying sooner than I. sooo.. keep being proud of that.

Only if you got equal gene pools.

PayDaPiper
02-16-2015, 01:23 AM
At least it was finally entertaining... Lavine has got some serious hops.

Dunk Contest has completely sucked for the past decade

FlashBolt
02-16-2015, 01:24 AM
Okay so you're confirming your like in your teens still then I'm assuming? Okay good I know not to converse with you then thanks.

So you're a grandpa with tons of grandkids and you have a crush on Ariana Grande? Woo, you are someone of exemplary faction!

PayDaPiper
02-16-2015, 01:32 AM
So you're a grandpa with tons of grandkids and you have a crush on Ariana Grande? Woo, you are someone of exemplary faction!

Ariana Grande looked good at halftime, damn

PowerHouse
02-16-2015, 01:38 AM
LaVine was incredibly impressive but he missed a few attempts. Vince didnt miss any of his. Misses are more likely for high difficulty, I get it. But Vince had some tough ones that nobody had seen before at that time and his conversion rate was perfect. The contest loses all its luster (and you can feel it in the deflating crowd energy) with misses. But Lavine's performance is a top 3 all time.

QueensG_718
02-16-2015, 01:42 AM
I would say he did outdo vince. Vince was great but his performance i think is slightly overrated. Lavine did his dunks with both grace and power and the guy just glides through the air.

IKnowHoops
02-16-2015, 03:21 AM
You guys need to stfu about the people were too young to watch VC dunks.. it's all over Youtube. age means nothing when you can just watch the entire contest on youtube.

I second this and I'm 36 years old.

IKnowHoops
02-16-2015, 03:27 AM
Wow worst post of the year candidate? Watching a dunk on YouTube 10+ years later is about 100X less exciting than watching it live while that star is relevant and in his prime


I'm guessing you were one of those in diapers?

Who cares how excited you were. You were younger and more excitable back then. News flash, that first nut you busted was also more exciting than your last...doesn't mean your first chick looked better than your last.

ThuglifeJ
02-16-2015, 03:40 AM
Who cares how excited you were. You were younger and more excitable back then. News flash, that first nut you busted was also more exciting than your last...doesn't mean your first chick looked better than your last.

No, it's just incredibly ignorant. I don't watch Dr J dunks on YouTube and lie to myself and act like I'm experiencing it the same as fans were back in the 70s/80s. Because it's not the same. Really, at all. That and the fact that the entire arena was on their feet in disbelief during Vince's contest, not just younger kids. Current NBA players were, past NBA players were. Everybody was. I think maybe one judge got excited enough to open his mouth a bit on one of Lavine's dunks. I don't believe they were climbing over the judge's stand to congratulate him at any point.

People brought up the same type of ideas when J Rich was doing crazy dunks or even Igoudala dunks, or Howard dunks. "Best dunk contest dunk of all time??". Eventually, those ideas just fade out and are hogwash. Just like the "Kobes gonna surpass Jordan" talks. Lavine's contest here will go down as a sweet collection of youtube clips to keep or not keep in your favorites list.. It wont be anything constantly brought up in the history of the game like Vince's 2000 contest was. It will just be brought back up if someone wants to go over some of the best dunk contest dunks. Unless Lavine develops into a superstar type player, then it's going to be forgotten rather quickly. So good performance by Lavine, hope we get something similar for years to come and not keep regressing.

But Give me a break. This thread is stupid. You didn't even spell 'outdo' right and you decided not to include a poll for some reason.

Avenged
02-16-2015, 03:53 AM
You obviously don't know **** and didn't see the contest.

What a classy post. Keep it up dude.

If I wanted to be classy I'd let Mr. Perfect know.

Avenged
02-16-2015, 03:54 AM
:facepalm:

^^ hey keep it classy lol

Yanks All Day
02-16-2015, 11:36 AM
Zach Lavine easily had the best dunk contest in the last decade. I'm not sure it's even close on that one.

In terms of better than 2000 Vince Carter? I don't think so. Lavine was just as smooth and powerful as VC on every single one of his dunks, if not smoother on some. The difference, though, is VC's dunks were of a wider variety. You had 360 windmills, elbow in the rim, 2 handed free throw area jump, and T-Mac bounce between the legs. Heck, his worst dunk was a 2 handed version of Michael Jordan's free throw line dunk that's become iconic.

Lavine was absolutely spectacular, but I prefer VC because Lavine went between the legs for 3/4 of his dunks. The 4th was behind the back, which I personally think was his best of the night. Zach Lavine put up one of the 5 best contests I've ever seen and certainly the best in the last decade, but I don't want to put it at 2000 Vince Carter status because of VC's wider range of dunks.

In terms of Dunk Contests from the 2000s, I'd say it's Carter, then 2003 J-Rich against 2015 Zach Lavine for 2nd. Honorable mention to 2006 Andre Iguodala, who I think got robbed by Nate Robinson.

2-ONE-5
02-16-2015, 11:46 AM
im not sure if Lavine was better than Iggy

InRoseWeTrust
02-16-2015, 11:58 AM
Definitely the best overall performance since VC.

CELTICS4LYFE
02-16-2015, 12:47 PM
Never.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-16-2015, 01:20 PM
Dwights first one was as good. VC was the best ever

Stunner
02-16-2015, 05:10 PM
Y'all disrespecting Jason Richardson , the last 15 years

VC
J Rich
Lavine
Howard

Raps18-19 Champ
02-16-2015, 05:56 PM
Lavine great dunker but really uncreative. 3 between the legs with 2 literally stolen from Demar Derozan and Terrence Ross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEXpWolhkYI
http://youtu.be/SF916Pyk4Bs?t=2m42s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjDE6bHVsMk
http://youtu.be/SF916Pyk4Bs?t=3m31s

Stunner
02-16-2015, 06:13 PM
Lol at " stolen " geez they weren't even the originators of the dunk

More-Than-Most
02-16-2015, 06:28 PM
It wasnt even better than Iggy and I hate Iggy.

So quickly people forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTZbYHqk4cw

Raps18-19 Champ
02-16-2015, 06:33 PM
Lol at " stolen " geez they weren't even the originators of the dunk

So he stole from a thief. Real original LaVine. Couldn't even change it up just a little bit?

Stunner
02-16-2015, 06:37 PM
So he stole from a thief. Real original LaVine. Couldn't even change it up just a little bit?

Nobody is a theif tho , people can just do the same dunk so many times . People can do the same dunk but it all matters in the execution of the dunk , how a person makes it look . Just because PG can do a 360 doesn't mean he does it better than Vince .

Stunner
02-16-2015, 06:39 PM
It wasnt even better than Iggy and I hate Iggy.

So quickly people forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTZbYHqk4cw

Iggy only great dunk was the behind the backboard lol

Raps18-19 Champ
02-16-2015, 06:43 PM
Nobody is a theif tho , people can just do the same dunk so many times . People can do the same dunk but it all matters in the execution of the dunk , how a person makes it look . Just because PG can do a 360 doesn't mean he does it better than Vince .

Part of being a great dunker is being creative. I'm saying LaVine is uncreative, so how can he be the best when he's not the best execution wise and he's uncreative on top of it.

Stunner
02-16-2015, 06:43 PM
Lavine behind the back also better than Iggy's http://youtu.be/baoY0pddIR4

Stunner
02-16-2015, 06:46 PM
Part of being a great dunker is being creative. I'm saying LaVine is uncreative, so how can he be the best when he's not the best execution wise and he's uncreative on top of it.

You just sound like a raptors fan looking to boost their own player . Honestly how many dunks can you do without saying " I've never seen that before " over 20 freaking years of the dunk contest . But it's your own opinion and it prob won't sway most opinions that he had one of the best performances in the last decade .

Raps18-19 Champ
02-16-2015, 06:50 PM
You just sound like a raptors fan looking to boost their own player . Honestly how many dunks can you do without saying " I've never seen that before " over 20 freaking years of the dunk contest . But it's your own opinion and it prob won't sway most opinions that he had one of the best performances in the last decade .

I never once said he didn't have a great performance. I just said he didn't "outdo" the best and a big reason was a lack of creativity (considering the dunks he did were just done last dunk contest and a few dunk contest ago).

Of course it's hard to be creative, but he didn't even attempt to do a variation. Most players attempt to do something differently (like instead of throwing it off the back of the backboard, it's thrown at the side). He didn't even attempt to do like a 720 or a 540. He did the exact same dunk 3 times, just caught from different places (off a toss, in someone's hand and off the extension).

soonabooma
02-16-2015, 07:09 PM
No but LaVine's contest is up there. He put out a hell of a show.

Prime Vince Carter vs Jason Richardson vs Zach LaVine would be an amazing dunk contest.
:D

Exactly. Vince and J Rich had a very similar style. As good as guys like Jordan and Dominique were, Vince Carter and Jason Richardson might be the two best ever when it comes to the dunk contest. I'd say LaVine is right up there because he can obviously bring a whole arsenal of dunks where you're not just seeing one good dunk, every dunk he did was great. Throw Dwight Howard in and that would be a great contest. I'd even let Gerald Green get in, he had great athleticism and plenty of creativity as well.

Kashmir13579
02-16-2015, 07:52 PM
No.

ThuglifeJ
02-16-2015, 08:25 PM
It wasnt even better than Iggy and I hate Iggy.

So quickly people forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTZbYHqk4cw

Well Lavines well eventually be forgotten about as well. I'd give it the same timeframe as Iggy's crazy dunk.

If people already got over Jrichs dunks.. They'll easily forget about 3 between the legs dunks with a quiet crowd, by a non star (assuming)

Sly Guy
02-17-2015, 01:58 PM
vince shoving his arm down the rim....I mean, who does that???

I used to think I was just being a homer for thinking vince's dunk contest was the best ever, but seeing as many dunk contests I've seen before or since, vince's is still clearly above all others.

benzni
02-17-2015, 03:49 PM
lol

Lavine put on a show. I saw people still hating the dunk contest this year. C'mon, both Oladipo and Lavine brought quality entertainment. If only Oladipo connected on his dunks. I re-watch the 2000 dunk contest over and over again and I can't see how anyone would think that Lavine was better. VC's dunks were so nasty that it raised the standards for the future.

benzni
02-17-2015, 03:51 PM
lol

Lavine put on a show. I saw people still hating the dunk contest this year. C'mon, both Oladipo and Lavine brought quality entertainment. If only Oladipo connected on his dunks. I re-watch the 2000 dunk contest over and over again and I can't see how anyone would think that Lavine was better. VC's dunks were so nasty that it raised the standards for the future.

Not to mention that the crowd was completely into it. The crowd at the barclays was weak. Plumlee had no cheers. Watching BK games is almost embarrassing because there is never any energy in the crowd

JustinTime
02-17-2015, 03:57 PM
Not to mention that the crowd was completely into it. The crowd at the barclays was weak. Plumlee had no cheers. Watching BK games is almost embarrassing because there is never any energy in the crowd

Maybe Lavine deserves even more credit than since he couldn't feed of the energy Carter had. Lavine VS Wiggins in Toronto next year will be the best contest ever.

ThuglifeJ
02-17-2015, 11:40 PM
Not to mention that the crowd was completely into it. The crowd at the barclays was weak. Plumlee had no cheers. Watching BK games is almost embarrassing because there is never any energy in the crowd

Maybe Lavine deserves even more credit than since he couldn't feed of the energy Carter had. Lavine VS Wiggins in Toronto next year will be the best contest ever.

Yup the crowd was yelling so loud the sound vibrations actually were bouncing off the court and increased Vince's vertical by 3 inches.

I also heard the air is cleaner in Oakland than New York so Vince had an advantage there as well.

G_S_W
02-18-2015, 01:42 AM
I didn't watch this latest dunk contest live. I only saw Lavine's dunks as highlight clips.

I did, however, watch VC vs. Tmac vs Stevie Francis live. Well, on TV anyway, if that counts. :) The atmosphere was electric. The NBA fraternity, judges, announcers, and of course the live crowd were absolutely electric. As others have stated, and if I may summarize:

1. VC unveiled a new dunk in every round (aside from his final dunk, which, while safe, was still relatively nasty).

2. VC combined power, vertical, grace, showmanship and creativity in a way that no dunker had or has been able to match before or since.

3. VC had elite competition--all NBA caliber competition in the dunk contest.

No contest, VC all the way.

Oefarmy2005
02-18-2015, 03:42 PM
I'll say this, I went and watched Vince's dunks and the 360 is definitely better than anything Lavine did, however Lavine's between the legs dunks are better and he looks smoother doing them, IMHO.

Nycbball08
02-18-2015, 04:02 PM
No, but I put him top 2 behind Vince..

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-19-2015, 03:47 PM
The most impressive thing about Lavine was the power he dunked with. He did dunks that have been done before plenty of times in recent dunk contests. Difference is he throws it down with such power it just looks so much cooler.

He also didn't take like 100 attempts to get it right. He usually did it on the first try, or at least the 2nd. Personally, if I were a judge I would deduct 1 point for every failed attempt. That would be my general rule. For instance, Oladipo's first dunk was awesome but he did it on the 3rd try I believe (or at least the 2nd). The dunk itself is a 10, but I'd give him an 8 or 9 depending on how many missed tries he had.

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-19-2015, 03:58 PM
So he stole from a thief. Real original LaVine. Couldn't even change it up just a little bit?

Every dunk has been done lol. Its not his fault he came after those guys. I'm not sure what else there is to do that hasn't been done. We've pretty much seen it all... the #1 problem with the dunk contest.

But Lavine did it better than those other guys. Personally I thought he did the through the legs better than Vince or J-Rich. Think is... Vince did a bunch of other stuff, so I still give Vince the edge.

But man... Lavine throws it down so damn hard. Its awesome to watch.

Wrigheyes4MVP
02-19-2015, 04:01 PM
LaVine was incredibly impressive but he missed a few attempts. Vince didnt miss any of his. Misses are more likely for high difficulty, I get it. But Vince had some tough ones that nobody had seen before at that time and his conversion rate was perfect. The contest loses all its luster (and you can feel it in the deflating crowd energy) with misses. But Lavine's performance is a top 3 all time.

That does matter to me a lot actually. As I said earlier... I personally would deduct a point for every missed attempt. I would count an attempt as leaving one's feet though, not missing the actual dunk. I'll allow a bad toss so long as one picks it up without jumping for it.